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Was Jared Goff-Matthew Stafford trade a win-win for Lions, Rams? | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC
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[@conorlambert6035]

There is absolutely no chance we would’ve won that Super Bowl without Matt Stafford

[@blakeharris58]

The season, even the NFC Championship, I’m with you. That particular game against the Bengals though, I think Goff could have won it.

[@JMC-v2z]

Tampa game as well. Goff not making that throw to kupp to set up the game winning field goal. And people forget that the rams offense in the Super Bowl became just stafford and kupp playing catch as the rest of the offense got injured. Def win win for now. Hopefully, Lions can continue to stack some wins as the favored now.

[@ThoughtPolice1984]

​@@blakeharris58Goff wasn't going to make that no look pass to Kupp.

[@conorlambert6035]

@@blakeharris58 no chance he beats the bengals, especially after Odell got hurt. It was Kupp Stafford all day. You think Goff makes that no look pass haha?

[@hgh5762]

We? Cmon, we all know they’re isn’t a real Rams fan base.

[@DetroitLions24]

You know Florio is just cringing heavily inside having to talk about the Lions. He hates it.

[@rocknroll6396]

He hates himself for being a Vikings fan.

[@blakeharris58]

He hates the Rams almost as much too. He definitely considered a drive of a cliff.

[@romain8390]

SȚFU victim mentality. I swear every fan of every team says the same thing. Dude literally doesn’t praise anybody, including KC. Y’all conjugate to have your own little “MeToo”, bs in the comment section😂😂

[@TripleNikel555]

Better get used to it the Lions aren't going anywhere we're just getting better

[@exoticsoysauce9239]

He hates both these teams he’s such a goofball

[@Anderson0490]

As a Rams fan I honestly think the media has a short-term memory, the Rams completely loaded up in that super bowl with Jared Goff 1 Rose to the occasion, the other one flopped And as a parting gift they still gave him a huge contract as he left for Detroit; so when Sean McVay can't sleep at night and he's shining his super bowl ring I don't think he cares

[@Leo-ii8nb]

I am still sad Gurley got hurt before the 3:6 SB.

[@thewizardofoz511]

Us Detroit fans are just Happy and grateful to have him 😊.. It looks like both franchises are happy..

[@Leo-ii8nb]

@@thewizardofoz511 Good for Goff tbh. Dont like the lions at the moment for killing TE Higbees knee. But I can't wait for Purdy to get paid

[@richardbersch5524]

@@Leo-ii8nb Too bad Kupp was out as well.

[@brianmartindale2221]

He probably cares more about how he got his coaching ass handed to him by Big Bill in that SB

[@HawgWyldFishing]

Sean McVey is laying in bed at night thinking about being the youngest superbowl winning head coach of all time, and how he wants to go about trying to repeat it.

[@cy4330]

His next title will be the youngest SB winning hc to win two SB rings. That record will be hard to top.

[@cryptomaniac2]

@@cy4330 McVay should already have 2 rings. Rams would have beaten the Pats in 2018-2019 if they had a healthy Gurley. Unfortunately we didn't have the All-Pro Gurley who dominated the league for 2 years because his knee arthritis kicked in right before the playoffs.

[@JoshuaMartian-go3tm]

@@cryptomaniac2 Can't put it all on Gurley. Goff couldn't run it in or even throw a td. Just 3 pts. It's not like the Pats blew us out, they only scored 13.

[@cryptomaniac2]

@@JoshuaMartian-go3tm All Pro Gurley I believe would have opened up the offense for us to score more or move the ball better. Just my opinion, we'll never know unfortunately. I sure as hell miss prime Gurley though.

[@JoshuaMartian-go3tm]

@@cryptomaniac2 Yes no doubt but he was more injured apparently than they revealed at the time, which was soooo frustrating cuz McVay got a lot of the blame. Feel so bad for him that's they way his career ended.

[@ProgressivelyElevating]

I don’t think Sean McVay is thinking about it at all. They won a Super Bowl. Both teams made the absolute right decision. This is just another case that shows fit with a team is a very important factor in QB success. The lions couldn’t do anything with Matt Stafford, but the second he plays on another team he wins a Super Bowl. The Rams couldn’t do anything with Jared Goff, with the Lions he’s in the NFC championship, and the lions are a Super Bowl contender. This is a win-win of historic proportions. Why do we always need to make a controversy out of everything?

[@templehillsfunk]

I don't honestly think Sean gives this trade a second thought. The guy he traded for, gave him a Super Bowl win and is on the cusp of giving him another.

[@zachpayton9318]

Sean and Matt have a way better relationship than Goff and Mcvay!

[@travesotom6890]

Exactly, he knows that Goff can’t win a Superbowl unless everything is perfect offensively because he’s a game manager

[@baseballsoffury642]

@@travesotom6890the rams failed him. You are such a smooth brain 😂

[@squanchy2925]

@@baseballsoffury642 No, the Rams gave him everything he needed to win and he couldn't do it because his flaws were exploited.

[@JoshuaMartian-go3tm]

@@baseballsoffury642 So again, using that logic. What did the Lions do for Stafford? 🤭

[@GuitarPlayer1409]

Of course Florio even got the Jared Goff chant wrong

[@jgilly223]

It was absolutely win-win. You can’t tell me that one team went from a decent/mid NFC playoff contender to Super Bowl champions and the other went from poverty franchise to breaking their playoff win drought and are now ready to compete for superbowls and that that ISN’T a win-win

[@RuizSBLVIChamps]

It did put you guys on the map to contend, But you will see why the move was made GOFF can’t win the big game on his own.

[@senator558]

@@righteousisthelord180That’s the reason the Lions improved. It wasn’t because Goff is so much better than Stafford. Goff is good enough to get the Lions to the playoffs. Stafford is good enough to win.

[@stephenblanton662]

Unless you’re ok with your team just being better this cannot be considered a win win. Lions haven’t won anything yet. While it’s fun to be a fan of a respectable team. At some point you’ve got to win it all.

[@antman5628]

You will be on your knees asking the nfl gods why they paid him this atrocious contract by next year or two 🤦‍♂️😂 trust me pal

[@baseballsoffury642]

@@antman5628Smooth brain moment. Lions gave Goff a scheme he can work with. The Rams failed him.

[@Charlie-s4k4v]

Stafford equals: QB Goff, DB Iffy Melifonwu, WR Jamison Williams, DL Josh Pascal, flexibility with picks to select Jahmyr Gibbs, TE Sam LaPorta, and DL Brodric Martin. This single trade allowed rebuilding a team in the vision of Holmes and Campbell.

[@JMichael-xc7uu]

Spot on, the rams built the lions core foundation- nice break down

[@garymartin1045]

People forget how young golf was when this was Going on, Probably was immature. People saying he aint talented Doesn't have an arm. Number one If the draft and he doesn't got talent, what a joke

[@travesotom6890]

And still won’t win a Superbowl 😆

[@baseballsoffury642]

@@travesotom6890beat the Rams tho which proved they are better 😆

[@bigchungus1848]

@@baseballsoffury642Rams won a Super Bowl

[@maddrone7814]

Did florio forget the Rams won the SB bc Stafford drove the team while being down by 4 needing a touchdown to win? And delivered? Goff flopped in SB53

[@travesotom6890]

Exactly, Goff would of choked

[@baseballsoffury642]

Stafford was handed a super team. The Rams failed Goff.

[@maddrone7814]

@@baseballsoffury642 yeah cause the rams caused Goff to miss wide open WRs on SB 53 right? Clown

[@cryptomaniac2]

Goff flopped, but the offense was hindered in that super bowl because Todd Gurley wasn't Todd Gurley anymore. Gurley carried the offense for 2 years but wasn't the same by the time playoffs came that 2nd year. We essentially played that super bowl without 50% of our offense.

[@JoshuaMartian-go3tm]

@@baseballsoffury642 So if the Rams "failed" Goof. What did the Lions do for Stafford? 🤔

[@LoveMotivationLLC]

This Florio guy is a Goff and a Lions hater

[@Bainer744]

Vikings fan

[@ouandello]

So is Chris Simms. Arrogant hater like his pop, now out at CBS. Goff has been a winner where ever he's gone. The Rams were a dumpster fire when Fisher was washed as a coach. Stafford is more talented obviously but he was also already an established vet when the Rams traded for him. If Dan made better decisions and Reynolds and St Brown didn't drop crucial balls, the Lions would have been in the SB even with that awful secondary. These two clowns can never move on from their haterade takes once they make them. I think I trust Holmes' and Campbell's assessments and decisions over these two's opinions.

[@shawnystixify]

As a rams fan I always said this so ill say it again, jared is a very talented qb when you have a stacked team. The problem with him is hes taleted enough to get you to the playoffs but he doesnt have a killer instinct. He doesnt have the it factor where he takes the team on his shoulders and carries his team to win. Which is something you need to contend with a mahomes or peyton or brees. Which is why he wont ever beat guys at that elite level. the team will have to win it for him.

[@zachpayton9318]

This right here!!

[@baseballsoffury642]

He played very well in the NFCCG. The team fell flat except him.

[@JoshuaMartian-go3tm]

@@baseballsoffury642 Defending, failure. hahaha smh

[@bigchungus1848]

@@baseballsoffury642The Lions are stacked and he couldn’t get it done lol.

[@baseballsoffury642]

@@bigchungus1848 The lions were not stacked lol their defense was atrocious. Just say you don’t know ball

[@drewsullivan4173]

Guys, love the show! Until Jared Goff wins a Super Bowl it’s not even a question. Matt Stafford and the Rams are the winners.

[@zikemiller1466]

Except when they come to Detroit. Then? Detroit playoff, Stafford!

[@lousist892]

Agree! Stafford completely outplayed Goff at Detroit. We all saw it. Goff has the better team around him. If stairs played for Detroit last year.... Detroit probably wins the super bowl. Come on people. Goff chokes like a girl ender pressure. Stafford throws no look darts.

[@JoshuaMartian-go3tm]

@@zikemiller1466 Goff can hang a banner for that one win, while Stafford is polishing his ring. 😉

[@AnnetteMendoza18]

Stafford for Goff was the best thing that can happen to the Rams . Would not want Goff back he doing great where he is . SB over here, all is good

[@JoshuaMartian-go3tm]

💍

[@brianwelsh2810]

Stafford could win another one this year

[@baseballsoffury642]

He won’t

[@squanchy2925]

@@baseballsoffury642 Says who? He absolutely could. The Rams are competitive.

[@bigchungus1848]

@@baseballsoffury642the rams are young and competitive

[@Ramfreak23]

McVay has no regrets but a lifetime of gratitude to win a Super Bowl with Matthew Stafford. The light switch hadn’t gone on for Goff while he was with the Rams. His Super Bowl performance was abominable with never getting his offense inside the 20, let alone in the endzone.

[@SocomElite]

I dont think Sean is thinking about Goff at all. It didnt work out I think they just wanna figure out a different way

[@aarondonald1611]

Goff didn't have it with the Rams but he might have it with the Lions. He needed the change of scenery just as much as McVay did

[@garlandcole7519]

Florio “I have a child, and a DNA TEST to prove it”😂😂😂

[@CertifiedSupplyChainPro]

Florio couldn't even get the JARED GOFF chant cadence right lol

[@brandonbaty2291]

That was so goofy! 😂 wtf?

[@adamloughran]

Crazy talk. Did everyone forget the rams won a Superbowl with Stafford and lost one with Goff where he scord 0 points?

[@JaredBruski]

Must've forgot those measley 60 yds rushing and Goffs 230 yds passing (same as the sb dynasty Tom brady) and his only pic came when he was forced to throw a miracle ball to try and get something going.

[@pattygrimes9188]

Rams defense won that championship

[@JaredBruski]

@pattygrimes9188 they won those Matty stafford turnover games too lol that's not the conversation they wanna have though.

[@derekharp2805]

Okie dokie

[@Anderson0490]

I'm old enough to remember when Florio used to slam Jared golf on the rims, now he wants to stick up for him?

[@retravienmccullough1949]

Trust me. No Rams fan is thinking that. About time Stafford retires. Trevor Lawrence will be ready to come out west

[@sQvQge]

As a lions fan Stafford has been a top 5 qb since he entered the league. Hes definitely better. But Goff is also really good and fits this offense better.

[@kanecunningham7779]

You guys didn’t even think he was starting qb 2 years ago. 😂

[@john172867]

As a Lions' fan I must say that I have NEVER in my life seen so much love not only for a quarterback, but for a team as a whole. You can see it in the locker room between the players, coaches and ownership. It's as if the stars have FINALLY aligned for this franchise. I think (and hope) that it will continue for some time.

[@brianwelsh2810]

None of those thoughts have ever crossed the minds of anyone in Los Angeles, they got a super bowl and Detroit some amazing draft picks but Jared Goff doesn't have Matthew Stafford skills in any way shape or form and is nowhere near as tough..

[@baseballsoffury642]

He is very tough actually and he beat Stafford

[@adrianvazquez2847]

Rams won a Super Bowl, they won the trade.

[@travesotom6890]

McVay doesn’t want Goff back theses guys are clueless 😂

[@bageltv3489]

Rams aren't sorry at all they made this trade.

[@yahcrack]

Goff isn’t as physically talented as Stafford and that’s why McVay made that move

[@solomo3456]

Stafford has a stronger arm that’s about it

[@kennymccormick9292]

Hendon Hooker will be Goffs current age when Goffs new contract ends

[@pattygrimes9188]

I trust Goff to win Superbowl than Rogers winning again

[@blakeharris58]

Awful grammar here but I agree.

[@JMichael-xc7uu]

I agree, as for the grammar check. Go to a non sports forum. Nobody cares

[@cy4330]

I already said this years ago Goff needed a few years to built on his guts and confidence and needed a coach to grow with him. McVay couldn't wait for him AD couldn't wait for him. Everyone was ready except Goff. It was a WW trade. When Stafford leaves one day the Rams will find another franchise QB. The Rams have no problem moving on very quickly. Good luck with Goff whichever team he is on. And what the Lions do have nothing to do with the Rams no more.

[@treyanteblackston2846]

Florio wants McVay to have regrets so bad about Goff lol He got the better QB and won a Super Bowl. Hate when the media acts like Goff just got traded for no reason, it was a struggle with him and his last season was horrendous. He would never take the throws that McVay schemed up and it hurt the offense.

[@joshdodson6829]

Mcavy has Matthew Stafford as his QB and a SB! He has ZERO regrets! Stafford has been nothing but phenomenal outside being hurt in 2022. If they didnt miss the PI on Puka they would have won that game. 0 regrets!

[@LAchamps]

Sean mcvay up at night thinking " Florio is an idiot!! We won a Super Bowl with Stafford. " you know how many teams never won a SB in the 2000's ? Like cowboys, niners, cardinals, Ravens and more. Give me a break, Florio!!!

[@618baby]

The media wants McVay to regret the Goff trade so bad. I promise you McVay doesn’t give a damn about Goff and would have Stafford all day. Coach is sleeping very good these days.

[@richardastley1168]

the trade can be broken down very easily. The Rams wanted to ditch Goff. "No One" was going to take the contract without concessions. The Lions "Fleeced" the Rams into giving them a ton of high picks to take the contract. But, as has been demonstrated repeatedly, Brad Holmes is a true believer in "His Guys", players who embody the character and work ethic that he wanted to build in Detroit. Given that Holmes just came from the Rams, he knew EXACTLY who Goff was as a person, and believed he was getting the steal of his lifetime, to get paid to take Goff. Stafford didn't want to be here, so good riddance, have a nice day. Rams got their Super Bowl, so good on them, but it has hamstrung them for years to come. That Goff had his resurgence shouldn't be viewed with such surprise. The surprise is that the Ford Family finally orchestrated building a winning organization for the first time since they took over ownership and creating a completely dysfunctional franchise since 1963.

[@treyanteblackston2846]

Rams are not thinking about that at all, they won a superbowl 😂😂

[@baseballsoffury642]

They are settled with one championship from years ago? That’s quitter talk

[@matthewmatt5285]

@@baseballsoffury642 Some Teams NEVER win One Championship,.PAY ATTENTION~

[@Charlie-s4k4v]

Holmes has addressed the need to pay "our own" several times. Is this part of the grand scheme to develop players and have them buy completely into the culture because they know there is a large payday and ultimate appreciation by management? Is this contract part of the "new Lions" rather than the "same old Lions"?

[@agardo_8582]

Rams were not trying to trade stafford that is ludicrous

[@holygoat]

The NFL doesn't work in the way so many -- including these guys -- want it to work. The best player doesn't always make the most money, because at a certain level -- say top 10 at any given position -- the next guy to get a contract is gonna set the market, or at least come close to setting it. This is particularly true with QBs. By opening day 2025, Goff will be closer to the 10th highest paid QB than the 1st. Detroit was never gonna get Goff for under $50 mil, because when a top-10 positional player gets a new deal, it's not weighed against *current* deals, it's weighed against *future* deals.

[@RuizSBLVIChamps]

Rams Drafted Goff for a reason, he can play. But he needs everything to go right to win the important games. Mcvay hasn’t been proven wrong because he hasn’t won a SB.

[@coryyoung4406]

Matthew is different from the core. Jared does not have that toughness and getting hit and to get back in the game after hard hits and injuries he's the guy!

[@baseballsoffury642]

He is very tough what are you talking about

[@silent1759]

He won a playoff gm with a broken thumb on his throwing hand.

[@carterfarris39]

Pretty simple actually, Brad Holmes has always believed in Goff. Goff proved him right = big contract extension

[@dampfanator]

The Rams have 0 regrets come on. We wouldnt have a super bowl if we stuck with Goff. Gurley made that Rams team, without his MVP caliber running back Goff was nothing.

[@JMichael-xc7uu]

Goff would of won with the rams bought team after he left. Von miller, Odell, Jaken Ramsey, right right. Plus Cooks dropping 2 perfect throws in the Patriots SB. He should of won that one 2

[@dampfanator]

@@JMichael-xc7uu I don't think so. Goff needs play action. We didn't have a great running back that year

[@aarondonald1611]

@@JMichael-xc7uu Stafford got us through the playoffs with his arm. I've never seen Goff do anything close to what Stafford was doing that playoff run

[@xperiencelife3492]

We don’t make that first superbowl without Todd Gurley Goff had a stacked team and a great defense and was terrible in that superbowl and missed a ton of opportunities Bottom line Sean mcvay play calling was too complicated and Goff needed something more simple

[@0225BM]

@@JMichael-xc7uu is bro forgetting the team they bought Goff when he was in the SB

[@jimpage8038]

To think a person can't mature and improve from 25 years old to 29 years old is pretty sad. He isn't the same QB that played in SB53.

[@chriskeable5839]

Lmao it’s the exact same guy

[@AyeTeeJay91]

Until the Lions win a Superbowl the Rams won the trade. That is the #1 goal of a professional sports teams, to win! The lions haven't won anything yet. If they do, them we should have that conversation.

[@KalleBergman]

It will go down as one of the most win win trades of this decade.

[@0225BM]

I don’t know why Florio wants to downplay Sean winning a SB

[@joshcaver8637]

I think something that goes unnoticed is the team after the Rams Super Bowl was old. They probably expected to have a core for three years only. Also, there were talks about McVay stepping away. There was most likely a discussion about going short-term and going all in to mortgage a possible future. Their success with rookies and a reinvigorated McVay, has extended their timeline. Rams can’t possibly say this isn’t a win, irregardless of what Goff is or turns out to be for the Lions. They won a ship. That’s a win

[@keithholley6921]

McVay was not allowing Goff to change plays at the line. The difference from L.A. to Detroit is, the Lions coached him up and allowed him more freedom at the line of scrimmage.

[@raymondcisneros4518]

I don't understand why everyone says it's a win-win when it clearly is not a win-win situation Detroit will take a Super Bowl over Jared Goff LOL we got a Super Bowl and got rid of Jared Goff Jared Goff is not accurate and not as good as everyone thinks

[@DavidSieradzki-g2b]

Definite win-win for both franchises. The Rams made the trade for Stafford with their senses that he would get them a Super Bowl, and he did exactly that. Meanwhile, the Lions got two great pieces in Jahmyr Gibbs and Sam LaPorta with the draft pick ammunition they got from the Rams. They’re Super Bowl contenders. Both sides are/should be very happy with the trade

[@tylerasweet]

It’s as close to a win win as you can get. But until Lions win a super bowl the rams won the trade

[@ryanbain618]

Rams won this trade hands down!! Goff caused us the super bowl against the Patriots......he missed several key passes including a TD......that TD would had won the game!!

[@brandonhoward69]

There was nothin wrong with Goff in LA. As a Rams fan I can say that if you look at the 4th quarter alone with what Stafford did in his super bowl you'd think to yourself that simply "Goff wouldn't have been able to do that". The no look pass in the moment he decided to do it in the biggest game of his life shows that the trade was all about experience levels. Goff wasn't quite at the level the Rams needed for the approach they wanted going forward. Both teams got plus results.

[@buddysteele7624]

At 5:00minutes, yet again, Florio revealed that he doesn’t know shit. “I wonder why McVay really wanted to get rid of Goff. What was the real reason?” Uhhh I knew Simms was gonna set him straight and say “bro?! Duhhh watch the film!” Florio refuses to watch film but will never admit that and he’s mediocre and a fraud as a result

[@jeffsmalarz7943]

its the going rate. i don't remember florio saying lamar or herbert are overpaid and those guys have less success than goff.

[@BDeLuca4444]

Both teams got what they wanted out of the trade, Rams got a more immediately better QB and a better fit in the system and won a ring. Lions began a rebuild with Goff, who also rebuilt his confidence and since the Rams won the SB, Goff has been the better of the two QBs, and the Lions are now one of the best teams in only 3 seasons. Definitely a win win

[@DavidBriceno-j6n]

Well the Rams rebuild in less than a year 😅 Rams are going to be really good 🤘

[@baseballsoffury642]

@@DavidBriceno-j6nrams didn’t rebuild they still had a lot of guys. Lions had nobody.

[@DavidBriceno-j6n]

@@baseballsoffury642 yes because their first Round picks kept busting but they have more first round pick than the Rams.The Rams just drafted in the first round this year after 8 years.

[@QTheFade]

What could he have done, he did. Traded a guy and won a Super Bowl. WTH are you even asking. Bogus take still trying to justify grown man decisions. Everyone hates mcvay and Snead bc they won a superbowl their way and now we’re 4 games away again last season.

[@ABruhMan]

My biggest fear was extending Goff. This will literally make or break us moving forward

[@RuizSBLVIChamps]

Noooo, Goff is who he is. The lions have a plug and play team, Goff doesn’t have that game winning drive in BIG Games. This is the start of Lions Downfall paying Goofy top money. Please Niners pay PurdyAverage more than Goofy.

[@albertjiminez1144]

We wont know until they both retire. So far, Stafford & Rams Beat SF in NFCCG, then win Super Bowl. Goff & Lions chocked big lead vs. SF in NFCCG.

[@kodylinde4123]

Win win but I’ll take my ring all day baby!

[@robmtsd]

I suppose it never occurred to Florio that it wasn't so much that they wanted rid of Goff, as it was that they wanted Stafford.

[@scottlongballa6677]

Stafford can throw the ball better after 20 beers than Goff sober!

[@charlespapineau5428]

You can tell it just burns Florio to talk positively about the Lions. As of now, I think the trade is a win for both clubs. Who did better? We won't know that for a few years. The Rams got their Super Bowl, but at the expense of a lot of draft picks and expensive contracts. They are still a playoff caliber team as long as the 36 year old Stafford stays healthy. Are they Super Bowl contenders? Perhaps, but not likely. The Lions used all of the Rams picks well. The young core is in place and locked up. The front office and coaching staff are aligned and intact. They are an ascending team that is very young with a quarterback in his prime for another 4 years. If the Lions win a Super Bowl and remain a top tier team, you could say the Lions won the trade, especially if the Rams don't win another one. If the Lions don't win a Super Bowl, you have to give it to the Rams, even if the Lions are a strong team for years to come. It's about winning championships.

[@senator558]

Sean McVay lays in bed and says I was right. Goff is good. He proved that with the Rams and the Lions. He’s not good enough to win it all. He also proved that with the Rams and the Lions. Stafford is/was and McVay was vindicated as right.

[@DonRobinson-le6qp]

You guys have lost yalls damn mind!! Ask Marino if he would like to have a Superbowl

[@coryvincent1932]

Rams gonna embarass them Week 1. Stafford will be this years MVP.

[@derwolfpack3599]

So Goff roped the lions into a huge contract because he won them 2 playoff games. The Lions will never see a super bowl with Goff, much less win one. Stafford and Rams fans say, "kiss the ring".

[@Tailgategang2081]

That’s why you guys are talking about it and not running football teams

[@cryptomaniac2]

It is 100% a win win for both teams.

[@brianwelsh2810]

That was definitely a Michael Scott negotiation, you guys nailed it!

[@johndoe-mx1fo]

I will keep saying this. The hardest thing for people in sports media with big egos to say is "I was wrong"..... the 2 and half years Goff has been lights out with the Lions. Fans, media other players thought this guy football career was over. This segment proves some people can't say hey I was wrong about Goff.

[@packzz3954]

You seem to have memory loss, no one was wrong lol Goff is who we know he always was, a good qb when surrounded with studs, terrible when he has to put the team on his back and win the game for them. It’s been evident in his career in LA and last year that loss to SF

[@johndoe-mx1fo]

@@packzz3954 what are you talking about lol? Goff didn't play bad V the 49ers last year..... and Goff is not a scrambling QB, so yeah if you put a good oline in front of him dude will and has balled out. Props to him

[@packzz3954]

@@johndoe-mx1fo Offense didnt score in the second half they shut him down bro

[@squanchy2925]

Goff is the same as he always was. He plays well within a system surrounded by an abundance of talent. He's not a bad QB, he's just mid tier. He's never gonna carry a team because his flaws can be exploited. He will put up a solid few years in Detroit but as soon as the cap casualties hit and the overall team talent declines, he will fall apart again.

[@johndoe-mx1fo]

@@packzz3954 Dude did you watch the game lol? They were fumble and dropped passes..,., Goff didnt lose that game lol

[@0492panda]

Okay mcvay impression Chris haha

[@mreloo]

Nice wrap up..how was 2nd round pick pascal part of rams trade & 3rd round pick martin

[@MrLeadman12]

Can someone please mention the fact that Stafford only had one year in Detroit that they weren’t bottom third of the league in rushing? That year was 2013. They were still just 17th in the league with 1792 yards. Last year Detroit ran for 2179 yards. This year they ran for 2311 yards. They were third and first in the NFL in rushing touchdowns in those two years, respectively. Goff is playing behind a stacked offensive line and a great play caller. Stafford never had those things and he often had poor defenses. I think they had a top 10 defense one time while he was there. If Stafford was playing for Detroit they would have been in the SB last year, probably could have won it. Now maybe they couldn’t have built that team without that trade. That’s fair. But stop with this nonsense about Goff and Stafford being on par. When Stafford is healthy, he’s on a whole other level than Goff.

[@riggedreality420]

It was actually a third round pick and two number one draft picks

[@Brent6437]

In a couple of years QBs will be making 60 million +. And Goffs deal will look like a good deal.

[@derwolfpack3599]

Goff is Goff, and the lions coaching staff has no Sean McVay. McVay saw he does not have what it takes as a leader. He is good at making money.

[@TCher22683]

Florio just honking against the Lions is expected. He is a noted and loud Goff hater and will never change.

[@brianmartindale2221]

All that winning with Stafford got kind of sickening in the Motor City, I tell ya

[@CaptainFantastic222]

Great trade for both

[@antman5628]

Two absolute goofballs 😂😂 get them off the network!!

[@emmitttraynor8939]

They also conveniently left out this dude went to a NFC championship in fucking New Orleans and came back from 13-0 down against the most ridiculous crowd in NFL history and won the game Why don't we talk about that Florio?

[@PapiLij24]

Put some respect on Michael Scott. Man was a lowkey genius. Makes me question your credibility.

[@TripleNikel555]

So florio would sign Goff for 6-7 million less? That's not a huge difference in the NFL market i think the signing of Jared was great and after Dak, tua and Lawrence get paid Jared's contact won't be so high

[@tonygrace3435]

Rams are fine! wtf is this guy talking about ?

[@gtapringle]

How does Florio get away with bias so much? Lmao. Will come back to this when the Lions win a Super Bowl with Goff. He’s not the reason they lost the NFCCG.

[@emmitttraynor8939]

What's crazy about this is that none of them give him credit even once His last 2 years 30/12 4600 yards 29/7 4500 yards 1 division championship 1 NFC Championship visit But apparently he's shit lmao He's California cool and he's a great quarterback

[@GulNadar]

The big thing that's still unanswered for the Rams is whether McVay can develop a rookie QB or not? McVay's ego and bad blood with Goff caused the trade. Ben Johnson makes McVay look stupid for just doing what Goff is good at. That would make it less about McVay's genius and more about Goff. McVay made it about HIS offense, HE is the one that makes the Rams score. HE doesn't throw the ball. It's his job to make the players he has to perform the best he can. "My way or you suck" doesn't work very long. Stafford has the experience that he can tell McVay to get his head straight and go run a 10-play touchdown drive on his own. I do think McVay learned he has to build the team around Stafford's abilities and what's needed to hide his deficiencies. That lesson came after the Superbowl win. League outlets can't say those things about McVay because they want interviews.

[@cy4330]

If Goff, OBJ, Baker Mayfield, Jalen Ramsey, Puka Nacua, Big Whit, Kyren Williams, and even Stafford don't make you see how great McVay is in developing talents who otherwise had fewer success on other teams, there is no more to say to you. If you are willing you can watch how McVay develops this new batch of rookies. Enough said!

[@GulNadar]

@@cy4330 I'm talking QB development. Once Stafford is gone he has to get someone else. My guess is he doesn't have the patience to restart with a rookie and he goes with the best available QB he can get via FA or trade. That's not developing a QB. I'll give credit for Williams and Nacua, the rest were already established as at least good to pro bowl level players. Mayfield came after McVay had to eat some humble pie. He didn't do anything new with Stafford that Stafford wasn't already good it. Not fucking up good players is a talent though. Once again I'm only talking about QB development ONLY. Stay on topic.

[@newjordanera]

If jared goff can win an MVP this year, o man, detroit would win this trade.

[@thadlane3978]

You guys are sitting to close.

[@thewizardofoz511]

It's cuz you can't break their bond😅

[@antman5628]

They don’t win that sb without #9 y’all still tryna debate this?😂 it no debate🤡s!! Two of the corniest nfl analysts right here I swear. Glad Goff got paid but I’m even more glad it wasn’t Los Angeles that paid him😂😂😂😂

[@yepyep7629]

Nice save by saying screw that we heard the F bomb start up 😂

[@thegamingdrew3105]

You show his record over the last three seasons but his last 30 games hes 22 and 8. Maybe shawn mcvay doesnt know how to develop qbs. We shipped stafford there at his best

[@KingJ_100]

Well Goff last season with the rams was 20 and 17 td to ratio with the number 1 defense and a top 10 running game goff was just proving to be the weaklink of the team at the most important position

[@spinZ186]

KGB Bob I’m dead 😂