NFS Underground 2 Retrospective: Fantastic & Flawed

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Kacey

Kacey

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@Kaceydotme
@Kaceydotme 3 жыл бұрын
Install Raid for Free for Mobile and PC: clik.cc/TMqBU and get a special starter pack! Available only for the next 30 days! Thanks to Plarium/Raid for paying my rent & dental bills.
@DekoWolf76
@DekoWolf76 3 жыл бұрын
@oli gordon Raid Shadow Legends is on PS2???
@tykedopwnz
@tykedopwnz 3 жыл бұрын
ayo get that rent money my girl!
@thenoobcannon9830
@thenoobcannon9830 3 жыл бұрын
@@DekoWolf76 I would play that port.
@JmMateo933
@JmMateo933 3 жыл бұрын
@@thenoobcannon9830 yes
@TheBreakingBenny
@TheBreakingBenny 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kohaku233 Are you actually Jared from Kotaku?
@markisaki979
@markisaki979 3 жыл бұрын
This game's customisation level was unreal. I remember getting Most Wanted after Underground 2 and being disappointed that I could no longer colour my NOS clouds.
@Scorpio19110
@Scorpio19110 3 жыл бұрын
U2’s customisation forced you to rice the shit out of cars for better star rating, which is something that I liked more about Underground.
@oscarfunez3806
@oscarfunez3806 3 жыл бұрын
Well customization is the same for every car except for body kits which were unique to each car. Performance customization is a different category since it may always be the same but that is perfectly fine because you want the freedom to build your car your way.
@TheCapitalWanderer
@TheCapitalWanderer 3 жыл бұрын
@@Scorpio19110 lmao
@Scorpio19110
@Scorpio19110 3 жыл бұрын
@@oscarfunez3806 yeah, but not to be forced to rice cars, they made it good in Underground, why they went for such a rating system in U2 is a mystery
@SK-mi5qv
@SK-mi5qv 3 жыл бұрын
@@Scorpio19110 Agreed. It should have been like a sidestory, where your do competitions to get recognized instead of "ricing" your car. Forcing the player to modify their car with newer parts kinda contradicted with the philosophy of tuning, it's your car, your taste. Most Wanted was better in terms of speed and racing, as well pursuit, which didn't make it into Underground 1 + 2. Carbon also introduced autosculpt(?) and that was great. Any NFS had something, that made them great, though.
@cuubezzz
@cuubezzz 3 жыл бұрын
2 months of rent in 71 seconds is a great hourly wage
@royliber3824
@royliber3824 3 жыл бұрын
Best part that its skippable... All jokes aside, im not really into mobile games so I will skip that one lol
@ZenotoXOfficial
@ZenotoXOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
Sheeesh if it’s really that kinda money then I’m gonna be hype seeing my creators get that Raid sponsor
@josebosua1489
@josebosua1489 3 жыл бұрын
Raid is a garbage pay to win, however I don't demonize the creators for taking the sponsor, since it's a considerable amount of money they need to keep producing content. The only thing that saddens me is that almost none good game gives sponsors to creators, only money grabbing trash mobile games :(
@CErra310
@CErra310 3 жыл бұрын
@@josebosua1489 especially considering that youtube demonetizes your channel if their sniff bot detects that you said a naughty word once in a video from 2014 so that they have a reason to keep the ad revenue to themselves
@anactualseagull5980
@anactualseagull5980 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZenotoXOfficial It genuinely is, mfs are getting paid in the thousanths for a couple seconds of lying to fans who definitely know better No harm no foul and kids who are limp enough to think 'oh wow this is sick!' will probably enjoy the games anyway
@dustojnikhummer
@dustojnikhummer 3 жыл бұрын
I always use a mod to disable the Star system when I play. That and Wide-screen patch is really the only thing you need for U2
@StewHeisenberg
@StewHeisenberg 3 жыл бұрын
Dude you should link that mod, hopefully it still lets you progress in the story
@Sh-hg8kf
@Sh-hg8kf 3 жыл бұрын
I was confused by your comment after messing around in space engine for 1 hr today lmao
@applehack97
@applehack97 3 жыл бұрын
so I completed this game from beginning to end without knowing there was a way to disable Star system? Shit, I wish I knew about it earlier
@TheScrubmuffin69
@TheScrubmuffin69 3 жыл бұрын
@@StewHeisenberg the mod makes it so anything that is based on how many stars you need will immediately unlock when you get it. Hard to explain but it works flawlessly
@MarkoVuckovic32
@MarkoVuckovic32 3 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I need the next time I play it. I always hated having to rice out my car just to get all those photos. Widescreen fix I have been using already in multiple playthroughs since I can't force myself to play at lower resolutions when there is no need for that. I always use widescreen fixes when playing older games that don't have native widescreen support.
@InherentlyArtless
@InherentlyArtless 3 жыл бұрын
Fun thing to note (which might explain some of the odd car choices). The NTSC and PAL versions had slightly different car lists, specifically starter cars. NTSC had the Acura RSX and Honda Civic SI while the PAL versions had the Peugeot 106 GTI and the Vauxhall Corsa. From what I can tell it's regional differences based on what cars were available in each region. I'm also pretty sure it's the only NFS game to have done this.
@SprunkCovers
@SprunkCovers 3 жыл бұрын
Can confirm, the first time I played this game was the Spanish PAL version and years later I found odd about the starter cars, to the point that I thought I misremember the cars lol
@atoo7yt490
@atoo7yt490 3 жыл бұрын
and the miata is unlocked after the SUV's instead of being a starter (i guess the same position as the rsx is)
@LNCRFT
@LNCRFT 3 жыл бұрын
Germans are probably triggered now as it’s the Opel Corsa. Interestingly enough the car model is the Vauxhall one.
@TallTapper
@TallTapper 3 жыл бұрын
big rigs
@NahuNarutoKyubi
@NahuNarutoKyubi 3 жыл бұрын
High Stakes also had slightly different car lists as well.
@StewHeisenberg
@StewHeisenberg 3 жыл бұрын
I remember as a kid being mindblown by the level of detail in the tuning for this game. There was final drive ratios, tire pressure tuning, and the music for the game was catchy and superb. Way ahead of its time.
@HOOTwheelz
@HOOTwheelz Жыл бұрын
that sub-section of gameplay is what actually got me interested in sim racing, and taught me some of the basics so i wouldn't be super intimidated by the cold spreadsheets that are sim racing setup menus. i sucked at building them initially because NFSU2 tuning sensibilities don't match up to other sim racers, but i eventually learned how to make cars handle the way I want them to in sim racing games like AC and iRacing through experimentation. the best thing is, you didn't even need to mess with the tuning menus in NFSU2 to have fun driving the cars. it was just a neat little addition for obsessives like myself to eek out as much performance from a car as possible, and i wish more arcade racers did that these days.
@Kaceydotme
@Kaceydotme 3 жыл бұрын
KZbin just broke the fucking video. If you're stuck at 22:00, I'm working on getting it fixed rn. EDIT: should be fixed.
@CropDudia480p
@CropDudia480p 3 жыл бұрын
i was so confused lmfao how does youtube always fuck up this badly?
@artemis02908
@artemis02908 3 жыл бұрын
Lol i thought i was the only one, it still shows thumbnails on the play bar
@Kaceydotme
@Kaceydotme 3 жыл бұрын
@@artemis02908 It should be fixed now
@artemis02908
@artemis02908 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kaceydotme yep
@father042
@father042 3 жыл бұрын
22:45 I'm pretty sure you can access the unfinished races from the previous stages in the event list
@ShitHappensRLY
@ShitHappensRLY 3 жыл бұрын
not only access but get some money from them, some of hidden races are races from other sponsors, so that's a lotta money too. you need just start unfinished race from world map menu in garage, and then just restart it, and after finish you'll get the money. iirc I finished the game with all these races completed too and I had enough money to make one or two fully customized cars additionally
@theneedforspeeder9575
@theneedforspeeder9575 3 жыл бұрын
He’s right. Even if you do those races from menu you still can’t do hidden races to get 100%
@father042
@father042 3 жыл бұрын
@@theneedforspeeder9575 I didn't think you need to do hidden races for 100% completion
@metallicarabbit
@metallicarabbit 2 жыл бұрын
correct, you can play missed races from the garage and even get money for them by using the restart exploit
@metallicarabbit
@metallicarabbit 2 жыл бұрын
@@father042 you do
@AdamHemi
@AdamHemi 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of childhood games are like Underground 2. They might not look or play amazing by today’s standard, but given the hardware limitation back in the day they were legendary. I used to stare at the highway far from my parents house at night and had dreams of cruising in Bayview, and when I got my license I drove to that highway while blasting Give It All. It was surreal.
@dtxspeaks268
@dtxspeaks268 2 жыл бұрын
For me I was blasting "Mind Killer", "Death and Resurrection Show", "No W" and "Switch Twitch"
@stonedmountainunicorn9532
@stonedmountainunicorn9532 2 жыл бұрын
WHOA Bleck Betty, BAM-a-lam
@BotBruh448
@BotBruh448 3 жыл бұрын
Europe really appreciated that 206, I played the PS2 version back in the day and there even was a Peugeot 106 (my starter car, took it until the end of the game), I honestly wish modern NFS titles still had these more Euro cars in them, they could really show so many facets of car culture from all around the world, but I also understand limiting it to cars you'd see at the location you're basing the game off of
@ChaosZero.
@ChaosZero. 3 жыл бұрын
U2 is to this day my favourite arcade racing game, bar none. The only thing I always hated about it is the absurd rubberbanding. The moment you get in front of another car, chances are you're never going to see that car ever again until the results screen at the end of the race and even if they're in front of you, they're relatively easy to catch. But the moment you enter an URL race, if they're in front of you, they'll be almost impossible to catch and if they're behind you, even if you spin them out of make them crash into something and they fall like 10+ seconds behind, they'll catch you again in 2 laps if they feel like taking it easy, lapping at an average of 3 seconds a lap faster than you, which is physically impossible for the player to do, no matter how maxed out their car is or how good of a driver they are.
@HeroManNick132
@HeroManNick132 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes if you drive fast and if you are 1-2 seconds ahead and if catch up is enabled they can easily tp and be in front of you without noticing.
@bitelaserkhalif
@bitelaserkhalif 3 жыл бұрын
For me the crazy rubberbanding is on U1
@austinhurst8085
@austinhurst8085 3 жыл бұрын
Try playing through to mid-game with difficulty set to hard! It starts out doable, but gets very punishing very fast.
@ChaosZero.
@ChaosZero. 3 жыл бұрын
@@austinhurst8085 I've been playing this game for 15 years, and I only play it at hard difficulty. It's not "punishing". Rubberbanding makes it look hard, but it's not. Take the rubberbanding away, and it becomes easy.
@KevinAbillGaming
@KevinAbillGaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@austinhurst8085 That's why I lowered it to medium difficulty later in the game, and you know what, the opponents drove in a roughly similar speed as I do.
@apophisstr6719
@apophisstr6719 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite parts of the free roam in NFSU2 are the hidden shops.
@devanand2219
@devanand2219 3 жыл бұрын
While I completely understand your point about the last stage of the game, I almost never have that issue. I've played all the way through this game countless times (recently did another one) and enjoyed almost all of it. But unfortunately, I have to agree that it does drag on a bit too long and that the final boss race is pretty pathetic honestly, especially compared to what you had to go through to get to the final race... Still, I love this game to my core and probably won't ever stop doing playthroughs every so often.
@winterwyvern7
@winterwyvern7 Жыл бұрын
true, the final boss race felt so empty to me.. back then i thought i was expecting too much from it since i played most wanted first before underground 2 lol
@Cyborg_Lenin
@Cyborg_Lenin Жыл бұрын
Honestly, 5th stage is my favourite. I get my mazda maxed out, and go 350 on highways with everyone else not being able to catch me even if i crash. Its a blast to finnaly have fast cars so the stage flies by.
@Fleetish
@Fleetish 3 жыл бұрын
Wtf, I didn't know outruns could give you unique parts
@TheKrzysiek
@TheKrzysiek 3 жыл бұрын
Minor correction: the Corolla is an AE88, not AE86. Almost everyone makes that mistake, because it's not fully named in the game, and people default to AE86 because Initial D.
@Kaceydotme
@Kaceydotme 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but people know what 86 is and that’s why the car was here- I know it’s the 88, but semantics :p
@Lili98SE
@Lili98SE 3 жыл бұрын
Can you source that? The two first results in Google for AE88 say "there's no such thing as AE88, they are all AE86."
@dusterpl6093
@dusterpl6093 3 жыл бұрын
it's an ae86 just because the vin number is different doesn't mean anything so stop spreading stupid false information
@reflectit5547
@reflectit5547 3 жыл бұрын
ae88 is a misconception, that's not how toyota chassis codes work. just because it says ae88 in the vin doesn't change the chassis code. the sr5 vin says ae86, would you consider that more of an ae86 than the gts because the VIN says ae88? if it's a rwd e80 generation corolla with a 4a engine it's an ae86. that means usdm sr5, gts, european gt, and jdm gt, gt-apex and gt-v. it's just a weird thing with toyota VIN's. most e90 corolla VIN's are completely different than their actual chassis code. same with the usdm aw11, it says someone like aw16 iirc. and i think usdm ma61's say 67 or something like that - Reddit user 3 years ago
@HeroManNick132
@HeroManNick132 3 жыл бұрын
Same how the Audi A3 in this game is 3.2 Quattro not a regular one. Black Box did a mistake when even on the badge it clearly says it is the 3.2 Quattro and on the dyno's performance you can tell it is 3.2 Quattro. But they wanted also to sound like a Golf lol.
@scrustle
@scrustle 3 жыл бұрын
The Pug 206 makes sense for this game trying to appeal to a global audience, as that was a very popular car in the European tuning scene at the time. Same with the Opel/Vauxhall Corsa that was a regional exclusive to the EU version as well. Personally I've never felt like the Supra was lacking in this game. Or at least it isn't once you upgrade it a bit. When I have played this game multiple times over the years I have found once you get past the opening parts, you can't use new cars you unlock right out of the dealer anymore. They need to be upgraded to at least a reasonable degree before they are competitive. Some cars are worse than others before you do that, but I've never had an issue after bringing them up to the level they should be at that point in the game.
@apache2047
@apache2047 3 жыл бұрын
6 year old me was amazed to see the Peugeot 206 in this game, I'm French and this car was (and still is) everywhere
@Ganjatraining
@Ganjatraining 3 жыл бұрын
@@apache2047 I believe its actually the most sold car ever if you take all the different versions and brand names it was sold under
@cheesyeurotrance95
@cheesyeurotrance95 3 жыл бұрын
the 206 was a very successful rally car as well
@adlibbed2138
@adlibbed2138 3 жыл бұрын
and also before Peugeot pulled a Soyota in most racing games besides French published games/track racers
@ravifennec
@ravifennec 2 жыл бұрын
We had the 206 in Mexico as well.
@YaBoyLogann
@YaBoyLogann 3 жыл бұрын
The issue that you had regarding the uniques and the star system part way through the game is actually what kept me from finishing Underground 2 for roughly a decade. I had the game when I was about 7 on the gamecube and got to the point where there were no races and I was just stuck, and unlike now, 7 year old me didn't have the benefit of looking up my issue on the internet and I eventually just stopped playing. It wasn't until I was 17 and playing the game again that I figured the issue out. I honestly feel like the term "Flawed Masterpiece" may as well be made for this game. UG2 is so good and one of my favorite games of all time and yet there are a lot of mindboggling decisions where the game just kind of has these features like the star system but it makes no attempt to really tell you when you're doing something wrong. No "Hey you need more stars to progress! You can get unique parts by winning outrun races!" It just kind of sits there and expects you to figure it out. Which, I guess is fine when you're older but when you're a kid it sucks.
@extrahourinthepit
@extrahourinthepit 2 жыл бұрын
OMG SAME!!!! LITERALLY SAME!!! I had a good three/four playthroughs of this game when I was a kid and it took years for me to pick it back up and happen to manage to finish it, and it is literally only today, watching this video, that I understood how you progress in it. The greatest game of my life. The progress mechanics can burn.
@slowboiracer1611
@slowboiracer1611 2 жыл бұрын
Yep lol had this happen to me as a kid as well, but I still played it, I think I may have started a new save and figured it out on accident without actually figuring it out, I just customized my car unintentionally lol
@ItsJustElenore
@ItsJustElenore 2 жыл бұрын
Racing one of those long ass URL races, it's raining, and Queens of the Stone Age kick in. Now that's nostalgia.
@jja2000
@jja2000 3 жыл бұрын
This was quite literally the first game I've owned. I'm so hyped
@doofusmcgee1715
@doofusmcgee1715 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@MrShortysj
@MrShortysj 2 жыл бұрын
Same!
@GreatBeardofWisdom
@GreatBeardofWisdom Жыл бұрын
This makes me feel old 😂
@chip300RR
@chip300RR 3 жыл бұрын
just fyi, the "corolla" sound you mentioned on the skyline is a ferrari 360 sound, the supra, is300, rx7, rx8 also get that sound when maxed
@HeroManNick132
@HeroManNick132 3 жыл бұрын
The Corolla sound is also used for max upgraded Celica GT-S too, despite the stock is the same as 240SX.
@EFerrorfile
@EFerrorfile 3 жыл бұрын
This game absolutely has my favorite handling model of the whole franchise. Easily. It just feels... Good to drive. One of my all-time favorite games.
@timm.e.n.
@timm.e.n. 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if it makes a difference but I watched the whole ad (and video of course lol) just to support you, and the quality of this video was exactly why I’m living/surviving with a bad case of depression and anxiety atm, and this video helped me zone out for the first time in a good while. Just watching the moving pictures featuring gud Need For Speed gaemplæy, ear drums basking in the words that spoke exactly what I felt when I replayed Underground 2 a while back, but back then i felt I was going mental from the mixed feelings the game gave me It wasn’t the stressed out gray matter all along, it was the bonkers structure of the game being masked by sheer quality!! I guess the rose tinted glasses were a bit foggy but thanks for clearing that up, and thanks for still making some of the best content on the internet (yes, the whole web) Also stoked to see you getting the bills paid, fully deserved down to the last dime!
@ruddgrandprix-speedrunraci8515
@ruddgrandprix-speedrunraci8515 Жыл бұрын
So. This entire time. Progression is tied to making a car look as horrific as possible to see your vehicle on your cover magazine or DVD cover.
@SummonerArthur
@SummonerArthur 3 жыл бұрын
I've played (and beaten) this game innumerous times. Im baffled that you didnt knew outruns unlocked "star races" as I used to call these. I think you can do 99.99% in the game after beating it by starting races from your garage's world map, but you can only do 100% if you do all of them *and* every outrun race. People keep talking about this game's rubberband but being deadly serious, I think I' ve never had a single issue with this game (quite the opposite of UG1).
@mistamontiel00
@mistamontiel00 2 жыл бұрын
That's where I left my PC save.. I think I just did everything from race map from garage but I don't think that means hidden events? I think I am down to one, ONE EVENT! 99.9% completion Hard MT and Hood camera with the 240SX throughout.. very damning
@HavoXtreme
@HavoXtreme 2 жыл бұрын
@@mistamontiel00 I am on a 100% Hard MT run myself as well. I paid special attention to never miss Unique parts in each and every stage. Still I’m not sure if I managed to beat all the hidden races
@mistamontiel00
@mistamontiel00 2 жыл бұрын
@@HavoXtreme Heck yis! I think I'd even did just that outran everyone.. oh maybe gotta lurk all areas, I don't recall unique crap either lol, what's funny is how this Kacey says 10 star vehicles look like ace but I make my 240 10 star doesn't look far off original I even keep the steelies the stock hubcaps on rofl! UG1 how I hate it all the way because the goat UG2 came out and I recall in that I think I picked unique shoes rims and then you'll never be able to revert back to original >.
@shira_yone
@shira_yone 2 жыл бұрын
Kid me just love the idea of outrun races so imagine my surprise that sometimes they gave out unique parts when completed, it felt amazing to find out organically. I was sorely disappointed that when you do outrun too much, the game won't spawn any racers in the openworld to limit it.
@bruhSaintJohn
@bruhSaintJohn 2 жыл бұрын
It's worth doing all of the outrun races in free roam simply because of one reason: Doing so will completely remove other racers from the world until the next stage or the next upgrade. You can tell if the racers are about to disappear by transparency of their arrow on the minimap. If it's really transparent - the next victory's probably gonna do something. And it's really useful because these guys constantly spawn on the same lane as you, just 300 meters ahead. They can get quite annoying, so it makes sense to remove them. If you want to get rid of them when all upgrades are claimed - save and quit on the highway, then try to win 2-4 outruns in the row. Because saving after a single outrun and going back would cause their minimap arrows to be reset back to solid orange. That should do it.
@skylinetv2778
@skylinetv2778 3 жыл бұрын
13:40 Congrats, you successfully made VAZ-2112 "Country yard/province style"
@abhishekrao1525
@abhishekrao1525 3 жыл бұрын
19:28 I doubt that was a bug. It's been a while since I played it, but I do remember an in-game prompt about how the off-road areas on the mountain drift courses multiply the points to encourage wider drifts and going closer to the barrier. It was the same feature in NFS:U that gave you extra points for sliding over the curbing and run-off areas.
@HavoXtreme
@HavoXtreme 2 жыл бұрын
Thats right the game specifically tells you to drift off road and as close to the walls as possible to gain more points.
@nicestoriesnottherealstori3006
@nicestoriesnottherealstori3006 2 жыл бұрын
@@HavoXtreme Yeah because it's more risky and more likely to lose points there.
@shira_yone
@shira_yone 2 жыл бұрын
One aspect of this game (and some other NFS games) that I love so much is how viable you can make the earlier "shitbox" cars can be for late game using upgrades, so they never ran out of usefulness and if you're really attached to them you can just keep using them. The lack of this one aspect frustrates me a little bit (just a little) with many other racing series that use different cars as the main system of progression, where you ditch your old car for a newer better one. While it is nice that it encourages you to try other cars for variety, sometimes I just don't want to drive these "better" cars and just want to drive the car I want to drive. It isn't realistic, but this is the one department where arcade racers with real cars can really shine imo.
@pemuda7075
@pemuda7075 Жыл бұрын
For real man, i prefer mastering one car and be good with it rather than being forced to switch cars everytime. But then again the sims and arcade racers are targeting different market. I like stupid fun games hhh.
@alphacommander3203
@alphacommander3203 Жыл бұрын
About the rubberbanding, I had a routine before each race that seemed to reliably turn off AI rubberbanding for exactly 1 race. It involved restarting the race 2-3 times in a row before the countdown. Once it worked, even on hard difficulty I could easily outrun any opponent in the game using any car in the game and could win races by miles on virtually any track. I could even lap opponents in all of the URL races.
@RedRiley89
@RedRiley89 3 жыл бұрын
I actually found this came at a garage sale when I was a kid and oh man was I hooked on this game! I remember I actually had to ask my dad to do the drag races since I didn’t know how to shift. This game will forever be a childhood game that I will never find boring nor forgotten and the intro song still slaps to this day!! You also did a very great job with explaining the ups and downs of the game 👍
@pauldecaro1416
@pauldecaro1416 Жыл бұрын
The unfinished races aren't removed, they're just moved to the garage menu after finishing each stage
@theninethrees8044
@theninethrees8044 3 жыл бұрын
For most of us, who were only little kids at the time this game came out while drooling over Fast and Furious and Pimp My Ride, it gave intent to put as many mods as you can to get to 10 stars. Our taste for cars and mods at the were very different to what it is now, and it was simply a product of its time.
@CErra310
@CErra310 2 жыл бұрын
Well they did say "by modern sensibilities". I feel like I'm completely alone in finding those cars ugly even as a child back then
@llmkursk8254
@llmkursk8254 3 жыл бұрын
This game holds an odd place in my head. I actually played it decades ago, as a wee kid, with my older cousin’s setup and steering wheel. NFSU2 is probably the first game I’ve gone out of my way to get and play (not that hard on PC, especially *ahem*ed), and I actually hit myself with a wave of nostalgia when I booted the game up. I’m somewhat disappointed you didn’t mention much about the European offerings. This game has the only two Peugeots in Need for Speed as a whole, and the only other options are a VW Golf, two Audis, and an Opel Corsa that is only available if you have the European version or mod, with the American alternatives being the Honda Civic and Acura RSX. In terms of handling, I’d say it’s best exemplified by the StreetX races. The cars will grip up and turn all happy days when you ask nicely, but still slip out if you’re not nice. It somewhat reminds me of Art of Rally in its handling. For customization, sure, your car will look like ass at one point, but I made sure to focus my looks and everything. I stuck with the Audi A3, and went for the colors of the Audi Sport Quattro S1 E2 as a real-life reference, and I’m honestly very satisfied with my car. You can craft an awesome ride, but not much of the parts actually look good. I’d also like to mention the frankly hilarious rubber banding that can occur. Sometimes, the rival AI car that gets rubber banded the hardest will get stuck on a wall or something. Not a big deal, until the system essentially ends up with a Backwards Long Jump situation and applies so much velocity the car will go flying and ping pong along the circuit in frankly hilarious fashion. It’s just so absurd that I love when it happens. One last thing: Where’s the mention of Black Bettie!? It’s probably more of a meme song, but it actually slaps so hard I get excited and just refuse to change menus until the song finishes. Well, that’s all the opinion of a 20-year-old or whatever. WOAH BLACK BETTIE, BAMALAM
@CyanRooper
@CyanRooper 3 жыл бұрын
In defence of the developers, an NSX would have felt out of place in Underground 2. It's a mid-engined supercar that was built to take on the V8 Ferraris of the time while being more practical and daily drivable than them. Not having an S2000 or an Integra Type R in the game still sucks though.
@nikki-lx3yf
@nikki-lx3yf 3 жыл бұрын
i mean performance wise the nsx and r34 gtr arent too far apart. i think the nsx wouldve made an excellent late game stage 5 unlock
@CyanRooper
@CyanRooper 3 жыл бұрын
@@nikki-lx3yf True, it definitely would've made the 5th stage MUCH better but like I said it would've been the only mid-engined car in a game full of front-engined cars; cars that were more affordable than it and more affordable (comparatively) to the supercars of previous entries. Like a base model NSX in 1999 cost the equivalent of over 130,000 dollars in 2021 and an R34 GTR in 1999 cost closer to 71,000 dollars in 2021 (assuming you could buy it in the US). Sure 71 grand is a LOT of money and technically you end up spending thousands more through upgrades and customisation but that's what made this game and the first Underground especially so special: taking a cheap(ish) car and building it up to keep up with or outrun supercars while having it be personalised to your liking.
@FranciscoFJM
@FranciscoFJM 3 жыл бұрын
@@CyanRooper I think the reason it wasnt included is because every other car has its engine in the front, and developers made things like the hoods and some engine parts custimizable visually. Having a mid-engine car would require to make changes just for that car to as customizable as any other. Maybe if they included more mid-engine cars like the MR2 this would have been justifiable.
@CyanRooper
@CyanRooper 3 жыл бұрын
@@FranciscoFJM Exactly.
@TotallyNotASpy1
@TotallyNotASpy1 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Just a note for the sound though, some cars like the Skyline have an odd sound on stage 3 engine tuning because it's the sound from a completely different car. One of the many things that were planned for this game was engine swapping, which ended up getting cut. Cars like the RX8 will sound like they have a different engine because that was exactly what was going on, so the Rotaries were replaced by four-bangers and cars like the Skyline would take the engine from a Ferrari 360 Modena, which is one of the cars that was intended to appear but was ultimately cut. If you listen to the engine sound in game and to the sound of a 360 Modena you'll notice that they're very similar. Tl;Dr cars sound different at stage 3 because they're supposed to have had their engine swapped.
@ToyosatomimiNoMikoTaoism
@ToyosatomimiNoMikoTaoism 3 жыл бұрын
I always found it hard to go back to Underground 2 because of that horrible free-roam in the career. Driving from Jackson Heights back to The East Harbor just for one drag is easily the most unfun experience in the series. I also find unique vinyls just ugly compared to UG1, I just want the Dragon vinyl in life. Least it has the 106 and Corsa though. Also outrun catchup AI is horrid.
@Gintaras64
@Gintaras64 3 жыл бұрын
First game with open world. Developers wanted to show the cazy amount of freedom :)
@sebastiankulche
@sebastiankulche 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gintaras64 There was previous racing games with open world. In the same series, NFS Porsche Unleashed on the PS1 also has some kind of free roaming (obviously not to the same extend as U2).
@TheScrubmuffin69
@TheScrubmuffin69 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the whole point is to be free roam. I personally can't understand how a single person likes racing games without free roam. Just 1 race and back to the main menu? What's the point?
@Gintaras64
@Gintaras64 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheScrubmuffin69 Tracks made in mind without free roam is more crafted and intresting. Races in Open world games are just limitated versions of free roam. It just dont have the same level of attention to every corner.
@sebastiankulche
@sebastiankulche 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheScrubmuffin69 Uh, thats whats all about a lot of arcade racing games. Being able to choose your own races through a main menu is more fun than racing in an empty open world imo.
@LesterCrest1
@LesterCrest1 6 ай бұрын
Fact about Undergeound 2's cover... The tower that you see on the right of the artwork has "SEX" written with the lights
@bsosmoove
@bsosmoove 3 жыл бұрын
I played this game as a child and never really got far cause I never took it seriously. But I remember going to my cousins house and he beat the game and little me was absolutely mesmerized by all the customization options and how you could seriously transform your car into a beast. And I think from that nostalgia factor alone its what kept me coming back to this game every few years or so.
@OLDSACKS
@OLDSACKS 3 жыл бұрын
"This is one of the hardest hitting rock and metal soundtracks I've ever heard" Holy shit yes. You get this racing game about 2000s Hip-hop/tuner culture and you get the 7-minute industrial punk tour-de-force that is _The Death and Resurrection show_ Lightning in a bottle.
@AJLethal
@AJLethal 3 жыл бұрын
8:31 it's not a corolla sound, it's a Ferrari 360 sound, which is applied liberally for many cars. And it's not the sole weird mix up (A3 3.2 with Golf sounds, Eclipse 2G with V6 sounds and to a lesser degree the Evo with S2000 sounds) IMO U2 whilst is a huge step up from U1 in many regards, it's not as nailed down as U1; it doesnt have the same exhilarating feeling as the first game, which I would pin down to the aesthetics (it's kinda less gritty than the first game), also the soundtrack is the weakest of BB soundtracks. Not to mention (as everyone has pointed out) the game drags a bit too long as it goes on
@HeroManNick132
@HeroManNick132 3 жыл бұрын
All cars sounds in the game are shared by at least another car. The only truly unique sounds that are not shared with other cars are the 3 Subaru WRX sounds and the 2 Mazda Protege sounds which are only used by stock and street upgrade of the Sentra. Honestly why people hate so much the Ferrari 360? The Chevrolet Cavalier sound is even more annoying which is also used by the Peogeot 106, 206, Miata, Centra... Seriously people don't know this shitbox car sound exist? The Ferrari 360 sound is not even that much used only for I6 cars (Supra, IS300, Skyline) and the both Mazda RX-7/RX-8. Not to mention how the S2000 sounds are also very exaggerated and also very commonly used (for stock and upgraded). Heck even a fucking VR6 Audi TT use a Honda S2000 sound as max upgraded and the Hyundai Tiburon GT which doesn't even have a VR6 too unlike the Audi A3 which you mentioned. Black Box in my opinion they were bad at making accurate sounds, especially when it comes to I5 engines. Even till NFS The Run they couldn't get a 5 cyllinder sound for the Quattro and the Focus but Criterion could? Sometimes I question Black Box so much. And even the Nissan 200SX there became the new " Mitsubushi 2G Eclipse" if you know what I mean. The only very best job that they did with the car sounds was only in NFS PS and then from later on the same story again. Also fun fact: They used again the Ferrari 360 sound in NFS The Run but for the Aston Martin One-77's exhaust mixed with Audi R8's engine sound.
@DevinRyanVitek
@DevinRyanVitek 3 жыл бұрын
This game and Midnight Club 3: Dub Edition was my thing back then \m/
@lucaspeyret
@lucaspeyret 3 жыл бұрын
I adore this game, what I do now is to use a mod that allows you to use any starter car, and just challenge myself to finish the game with the Mustang for example, really fun because opponents scale with your car's performance. Also visual rep remover and a mod that reduces all circuits to 2 laps, incliding URLs
@bitelaserkhalif
@bitelaserkhalif 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly after mw (carbon) introduces tier system which is annoying. I want to beat the game with RX-8, and I am waiting for tier remover
@lucaspeyret
@lucaspeyret 3 жыл бұрын
@@bitelaserkhalif true, i never liked that, at least in Pro Street cars could go above their initial tier, in Carbon it would require an entire rebalance of car performance tho
@C.I...
@C.I... 3 жыл бұрын
I've never heard "Peugeot 206" and "cool" in the same sentence before.
@austinhurst8085
@austinhurst8085 3 жыл бұрын
As a North American, I've always thought they were extremely cool. Weirdly handsome, and very different aesthetic from any sort of subcompact we got here!
@lukamilic
@lukamilic 8 ай бұрын
13:00 Thanks to the modding community, an easy to install script mod removing star rating is made. It fixes that issue and lets you progress and get mags/dvds without doing anything visual. Also, regarding the absence of the cars from Underground, there's a mod called Olympic City imports, which restores them since they are in the game files, but the vinyls don't work.
@SlowV6Mustang
@SlowV6Mustang 3 жыл бұрын
Literally the only raid sponsorship I’m not angry at, that was a really good magic trick
@dustinjames1268
@dustinjames1268 3 жыл бұрын
The reason you get more drift points for being offroad is to reward you for risky behavior like close calls with traffic on the downhill drifts or getting close to walls
@AutisTECH96
@AutisTECH96 3 жыл бұрын
Just WOW, this NFS Underground 2 review is REALLY well put together, nice job bro!! This is one of my absolute favorites of all time, as well, no doubt about it. My absolute favorite feature in Underground 2 is the fact that the customization is just SOOOOO expansive, it's not even funny, and yeah the antagonist DOES leave a lot to be desired to say the least, without question. Despite the games flaws, I still like it more than ANY post-BlackBox era game, no matter what, and also, it just cannot be beat by most other racing games today, as well, just my opinion, you guys don’t have to agree with me, it’s okay. Thank you so much for this review bro, it was an absolute BLAST watching it, and NEVER boring in the slightest, please continue to make well thought out reviews like these, Kacey, and now that I think about it, you make me want to play this game EVEN more, I cannot thank you ENOUGH, my dude, I love you, no homo!!
@Gothstana
@Gothstana 2 жыл бұрын
For some reason, racing games had this weird obsession with using the Peugot 206 as a starter vehicle. Underground 2 did it, Juiced did it, everyone just hopped on the 206 bandwagon out of the blue lol
@MrWaheedulHaque
@MrWaheedulHaque 3 жыл бұрын
Now that EA lost their fifa license hopefully they put more money into the need for speed franchise instead and make it great again 😍😍, the last game wss a step in right direction but needs a lot more to do multiplayer wise and longer story mode
@mychemicalbromance97
@mychemicalbromance97 3 жыл бұрын
I finally got heat recently and the story just...ends like halfway through. you get to level 30/50 and it's just...yeah uh we ran out of stuff so this is over now. I know there's still more after that but I haven't felt like going back to do the last races since I'll ahve to grind 20 more levels
@adlibbed2138
@adlibbed2138 3 жыл бұрын
I hope it was the case, but them pausing NFS development for BF2042 and still being more buggier than NFS Rivals at launch made me extremely cautious with them than ever, ever since their Codemasters' acquistion
@opalyankaBG
@opalyankaBG 10 ай бұрын
I got my first computer for Christmas 2004 and the game was part of the present. I was never into cars but oh my god, I loved every bit of this game. I loved exploring Bayview and soaking up its atmosphere, car handling is realistic still to this day, and the level of customization and tuning abilities is almost unmatched by later titles (I liked the autosculpt in Carbon). Sometimes I wish I could go back to 2004 just for a few hours and re live my first U2 experiences.
@youtubeaccountlol4942
@youtubeaccountlol4942 3 жыл бұрын
I KEEP ON PLAYIN OUR FAVORITE SONG, I TURN IT UP WHILE YOURE GONE ITS ALL IVE GOT, WHEN YOURE IN MY HEAD AND YOURE IN MY HEAD SO I NEED IT
@ZacktheTastySnack
@ZacktheTastySnack Жыл бұрын
Just to let people know, you can still get 100% after you do the final race. Yes they're no longer on the map BUT they're still accessible on the stages menu option in the career menu. Also imagine if Kurt came back as the final boss in his ironically infuriating RX 7
@ZacktheTastySnack
@ZacktheTastySnack Жыл бұрын
Iconic* not ironically Gotta love autocorrect sometimes
@nikki-lx3yf
@nikki-lx3yf 3 жыл бұрын
you can progress towards 100% after completing the career. the world map in the garage lets you play all races from stages youve completed, whether you already won the race or not. this includes any hidden races you missed, sponsor races from the sponsors you didnt pick, and suv races (which you can do with any car now). only things that i think are missable are any magazine covers you skipped and any unique parts you didnt unlock from outruns. ive 100%ed this game like 3 times lol
@Kaceydotme
@Kaceydotme 3 жыл бұрын
I’m getting a different story from every person lol. Some have been telling me that it doesn’t count towards progression or unlocks
@nikki-lx3yf
@nikki-lx3yf 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kaceydotme im not sure on unlocks since i always do as many races as i can in each stage before doing the urls, so ive never not hit the "# of races" requirement for all the part unlocks per stage. it definitely counts towards progression though, otherwise itd be impossible to get 100% since you cant possibly get all the sponsor races at once
@MKR3238
@MKR3238 2 жыл бұрын
"it's not high art but it is artfully crafted" - love that line
@VGHSyntheticOrchestra
@VGHSyntheticOrchestra 3 жыл бұрын
No game has come close to its customization. No one has even tried. It's still one of the most in-depth and accurate tuner systems ever made too. And it was an arcade racer!
@father042
@father042 3 жыл бұрын
Any plans to review more NFS handhelds?
@RedzaMalaysianCrossover
@RedzaMalaysianCrossover 3 жыл бұрын
NFS Underground 2 is probably my favorite NFS game besides Most Wanted 2005.
@MrJohnReviews
@MrJohnReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Besides NFS Most Wanted, High Stakes is my second favorite and Hot Pursuit (2010 version) being 3rd favorite
@tomasciangherotti1021
@tomasciangherotti1021 3 жыл бұрын
The first game i have memories of and the one that kicked off my passion for cars....it just cant get any better I always discover something new or a way to play it, recently i just cant get enough of going top speed on the highways without music Also, the (mechanical) tuning in this game its incredible and kind of realistic
@miguelque9102
@miguelque9102 Жыл бұрын
I spent almost a month torrenting NFSU2 back in 2007, and what an amazing game it was. Almost every aspect has been expanded over NFSU, and I absolotely loved driving Toyota Corolla while playing this game.
@HeManForReal
@HeManForReal 3 жыл бұрын
This is and will always be the first game I played all the way through and a defining factor in my love for arcade racers. But playing it again for the umpteenth time, it feels pretty clear that the game's ambitions on world building and customization depth were carried out at the cost of difficulty balancing and a memorable ending. The gap between Normal and Hard is absurd and sadly relies on rubberbanding rather than "real" difficulty. But man, the atmosphere and especially the color palette of Bayview with all its neons and night lights... It's something else. Thanks for the review, it was a treat as always. And congrats on the sponsorship!
@philaoki
@philaoki 2 ай бұрын
14:27 I would argue that outrun races are actually the real races in this game (as in most realistic in a street racing themed game). In street racing you don't do circuit, sprint, or race track racing with a set number of laps or finish lines drawn on the ground. You would rather challenge another street racer on the fly, e.g., on the highway or at a traffic light, and then try to build distance in order to beat them. Outrun races are just that.
@iWerli
@iWerli 2 жыл бұрын
NFSu2 was incredibly good at expressing the late night street racer vibe. I remember the feeling I used to get from driving around a modded car in underground2, and it's the exact same feeling I used to get when i first started going to car meets/races. The immersion and atmosphere of this game is unmatched.
@metallicarabbit
@metallicarabbit 2 жыл бұрын
22:48 this is incorrect, its a bit convoluted so it can be forgiven for not knowing, but.... you can play any unfinished race for any stage of the 5 stages even after completing the career by going to your garage/safehouse and scrolling over to the world-map option. in the world-map you can look at all races in all 5 stages of the game and find ones you missed or didn't complete and grind out a 100% completion.... BONUS FACT: normally you aren't intended to get money from races selected from the world-map option in the garage (likely to force you to use free-roam) but you can trick the game into rewarding you the prize money for them by starting the race, pausing, and select restart and then completing the race.
@piotrpedzich4437
@piotrpedzich4437 Жыл бұрын
The 206 is actually a great car choice for the time in Europe, as tuning of small cars was popular here! They did well with the car list. Also, a great video, I've waited a year to watch it so that I would finally finish this game on my own first. Legendary game that could be perfect if not the progression system
@StonedNight
@StonedNight Жыл бұрын
I had this game when it first came out I had the PS2 version and I had a fully uniqued out peugot 206 and that car would brake the speedo on the highway circuit using the infinite nitro tap trick lol....which was just a timing thing to keep boost building and speed climbing...i even had all unique visual and had a spiderweb over a superman hombre with raiden in front of the rising sun tropical scheme...man that car was fun...the online was amazing as well, so much fun, so many good memories, its where my tag was born, a tag that has followed me everywhere in the online community, this game created my love of online racing... good video
@themanwithsauce
@themanwithsauce 3 жыл бұрын
There are so many unexplained mechanics, liek the unique upgrades and the "secret races" that pay out a lot more cash. It's also difficult picking cars since some are great when stock but fail to make big gains when upgraded. Meanwhile, the AE86 and Miata thrash everyone from the start and even some of the mid game cars like the tiburon or the G35 seem to fall flat in comparison.
@xristaka8199
@xristaka8199 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion,Corolla,Miata,240SX and Civic shouldn't have been starter cars.I would replace them with A3,Golf 4,Sentra and IS300.Why would you give the player OP cars right from the beggining making the other cars useless and meaningless to get when u have the likes of Civic,Corolla and Miata?I guess BlackBox's deadlines affected some of the decisions for the game.Not only that but Stage 5 somewhat feels unfinished.Caleb's race is bad,The Wraiths boss race lacks a cutscene to tell you that you are attending a special event and you unlock The Subaru and The Skyline near the end of the game with only 1 hour gameplay to spend with them.
@turokrambo5617
@turokrambo5617 3 жыл бұрын
I played the whole game from beginning to end with the AE86. I mean any stock car from the start can beat the game. I just loved the fact that the 86 was a starting option!
@AeyGee
@AeyGee 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing But You from Paul Van Dyk never gets old. One of the many 'Gods of Trance'!
@hawken796
@hawken796 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I had the exact same feelings. I had a lot of fun until stage 3 and I never realised there was a progression button, so I thought I was nearing endgame. It kept going and going until halfway through stage 4, I realised this is one of those padded out long games. I couldn't tough it out. Nfs always has an issue with overly lengthy campaigns but at least there's some semblance to a proper story in undercover and payback, which made me finish them. Carbon was the perfect length for the depth it offers and so is pro street. Most wanted gets boring but it at least has police. Heat has everything but gameplay loop is so good, I spent over 80 hours on it and 30 on campaign even though it was a very short one. I think it is one of those 2000s trends where they padded it out to make it as bang for the buck as possible, because midnight club 2 had the same issue. Def wanna see your proper deep review of nfs heat!
@dtxspeaks268
@dtxspeaks268 2 жыл бұрын
I thought Most Wanted was way better than Carbon tbh
@Erick.Salvador
@Erick.Salvador Жыл бұрын
I think what brings down the newer open worlds in NFS are the world design. They insist on making big open maps like in other open world games, while Underground 2 and Most Wanted are basically big playgrounds made for cars. Any area around the roads are closed off, but this isn't a game where you walk and look around for quests. I remember each district from bayview much more than the barren countryside of Unbound or the entire map of NFS Heat
@Axroph
@Axroph 3 жыл бұрын
This was my favourite game when I was a kid and now I am happy that people still played it.
@bitelaserkhalif
@bitelaserkhalif 3 жыл бұрын
And for stage 3 sound of car like rx8, r34, and supra, it actually uses Ferrari 360 sound (ferrari_360). Mod for PC (NFSU2 Car Sound Tuner) do exist for easily changing the sounds on U2 (it uses different approach than NFSMW and later game due to differing structure of game data especially for sounds.)
@tommykhong6148
@tommykhong6148 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the Civic EM1. Shared the evil 4-banger noise with the Evo. That sound actually stayed in NFS for quite some time lol
@brawler5760
@brawler5760 2 жыл бұрын
My biggest problem with the customization in this game is that it’s INTEGRAL to progressing through this game, if your car doesn’t look ricey enough then you can’t enter events. “You can just install a mod to disable the star system.” Dude, if I have to install mods to play the game normally, then that’s just bad game design. Same thing with Borderlands 2, unplayable in the endgame without mods… Edit: I also really hate it when other games do it too like CarX Street…
@jedlin1256
@jedlin1256 Жыл бұрын
Hey, at least you can have one car purely for ricing purposes and keeping rest clean unlike NFS U1
@mudrulomudrulo1294
@mudrulomudrulo1294 3 жыл бұрын
while it's true that uncompleted races are removed from the map it does not mean you can't complete them. It was too long ago so i dont remember how exactly, but you still have access to all races of previous stages either from garage or from freeroam menu.
@MrJohnReviews
@MrJohnReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Of all the NFS games that I've played, Underground 2 wasn't the one that I remembered the most, I got Underground 1 then skipped to Most Wanted and it was pretty good, then I bought an used copy of Underground 2 for the PS2 and it was decent, not as fantastic as Most Wanted in terms of gameplay but a great step in the right direction.
@facundolacerna2358
@facundolacerna2358 3 жыл бұрын
For now, this is my favorite video of yours. Keep it up!
@royliber3824
@royliber3824 3 жыл бұрын
11:23 if im not mistaken, the 206 is replaced with a Ford Focus in the US version. EA thought of everything back then. My memory from this game is how much I wanted it... When I was young, I passed next to this tech store next to my house and everytime I saw that game on the shelf I felt bad because my parents wouldn't buy me it lol (they wanted me to focus on studying... basically like any other parents). Also, I had played this game at my friend's house and we had a blast playing it in turns, the modifications and races they were all part of the experience. We didn't play to beat Caleb, we simply played to have fun all around and I think thats the main goal of the game. Still by this day, for me this is the best NFS game ever made even better than MW (altho that is a masterpiece of its own). Im probably also one of the few people who enjoyed Pro Street for what it was, because every NFS game after that was complete shit and out of place.
@Kaceydotme
@Kaceydotme 3 жыл бұрын
Nah the 106 was the Focus, the 206 is in all versions of the game
@royliber3824
@royliber3824 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kaceydotme Ahh alright... I did remember they had some differences considering where you bought the game lol. Still nontheless still holds up as one of the best NFS games ever
@Brot-o-Typ
@Brot-o-Typ 3 жыл бұрын
08:58 it doesn't matter, there are dozens of us, dozens! But on topic, i loved driving the SUVs back then, probably because i have never seen such a car before and they seemed so out of place. But i need to agree, i've did the same and never played through NfS:U2 back then...
@skylinetv2778
@skylinetv2778 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, about sound design… It didn't progressed too much, most of cars had just re-pitched Ferrari 360's engine sound, this is from file names
@HeroManNick132
@HeroManNick132 3 жыл бұрын
Wrong. The other Ferrari 360 like sounds that you are looking for is actually from Chevrolet Cavalier. The Ferrari 360 sound is only used by the I6 and Rotaries. Other I4 cars that use as max upgrade is either a Honda S2000, Chevrolet Cavalier, Honda Prelude or Toyota AE86. Also the VR6 cars used S2000 sound as max upgrade for some reason. Techically the only truly unique sounds that are only used by 1 car (and not like the other sound files that at least 2 cars are using them) are the 3 Subaru WRX sounds and both Mazda Protege sounds which were used by the Nissan Sentra SpecV's stock and street upgrade. All of these other sounds are copy and pasted.
@clowncore
@clowncore 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, EA not letting developers have time to polish a game... what a surprise...
@xristaka8199
@xristaka8199 2 жыл бұрын
The main reason why modern Nfs sucks except Heat.Ghost really tried to recapture the feeling of the old nfs games with 2015 and Heat and they even tried to Innovate with Payback.But man it's all EA's fault for forcing their ridiculous policies on Ghost.Payback could have been the best Nfs alongside MW if Ghost had one or two more years in development to polish it,improve the handling and come up with the decision that cards as performance upgrades is a bad idea.
@ketrub
@ketrub 3 жыл бұрын
man this video sure is reminder why i never finished ug2 despite starting it like 10 times and loving each start
@THAT1ZELDAFAN
@THAT1ZELDAFAN 2 жыл бұрын
I E played this, and still have my PS2 copy I bought years ago. For me, I used the GTO in the later stages of the game (which I call by it's real name, the Holden Monaro), and I find the car to handle brilliantly, as long as you use the right spoiler, body kit, and fine tuning. You can have that car handle like a V8 Supercar if you take the time to master it
@Edalbung
@Edalbung 3 жыл бұрын
Great retrospective on this unforgettable racing game! The Peugeot 206 was the best selling car in France during this period, so I guess that they put it for my country haha Moreover, I don't recall a game which let you put display screen in your car, it is useless, but it marked me during all these years when I thought about this game.
@Talk-Hub
@Talk-Hub 2 жыл бұрын
i loved driving the escalade, something about it's engine roar, and I played it with an old steering wheel that made it so much more fun
@jamesmmusic5806
@jamesmmusic5806 2 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way as the city in U2, I feel like I've been there, I remember places which I don't remember clearly from other games
@joanfelicianoo
@joanfelicianoo 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite part of the game are Beacon Hill and Jackson Heights. I would love to live in a real life Bayview and go out to eat at the Beacon Hill's Burguer King or go shopping at the City Core's Best Buy.
@paburrito
@paburrito 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great video and it really shows why i loved NFSU2 so much to this day, if anything the only bit i'd argue with you on this video is the engine sounds that you talked about, like the Skyline's extreme package being from a Corolla, is actually from a Ferrari 360 Modena, sadly due to time constraints, the devs had to reuse the same engine sound several times, same happens with the RX7, RX8, Supra, Skyline itself, just to name a few, they all use the Ferrari 360 Modena engine sound, for a fair amount of people that was something that threw them off the most, including myself, that noted that several engines were repeated, luckily the modding community is still alive and kicking pretty hard, and throught them i made a mod that fixes that mistake the devs were probably forced to make, bit of a shill but mostly just to clarify a little mistake and give you a little insight of the game's inner workings as well. Other than that, love the video so much and thank you for letting me see a piece of my gaming history in more depth as well, 'cause for me UG2 was really something else, all grip racing with well thought out racing lines, no tap brakes to drift bull, the only gripe was the forced driving to spots, if anything it was the mayor selling point of the game, free exploration and such, it was also sadly what made the game so grindy and stretched out that and the HORRIBLE rubberbanding of the AI, but a feature that in the end was very underrated but ended up being a very big point for a lot of gamers were the tunning menu in the dyno, seeing how your car evolved and reacted to the changes of suspension, ecu, turbo etc was always so freaking cool, i could go on and on but best not for now heheh, still tho, thank you for the video and i'll be eager to see the next one as well
@icarusgaming6269
@icarusgaming6269 3 жыл бұрын
So wait... the normal races are on the street, and the street races are on closed circuits?
@LibraScope
@LibraScope 3 жыл бұрын
Ridiculously great video, as is usual for you. You hit pretty much every nail on the head, so there's honestly not much I can really add that's of value :D
@gintseine8125
@gintseine8125 9 ай бұрын
For the skyline You can leave out some of the engine parts to keep the skyline tone.
@darkcase123
@darkcase123 8 ай бұрын
Just so everybody knows, Drifting close to the walls earns you more points, higher risk higher reward. That's why he thought getting more points was a bug when going off road. Also SUVs give access to exclusive SUV only races
@nanowithbeans2511
@nanowithbeans2511 Жыл бұрын
When Caleb pulled up in his GTO, even if I had no knowledge of the game's best cars. I knew I was gonna body him in an evo with a sucky handling.
@bullshark7888
@bullshark7888 3 жыл бұрын
"The Evo sounds practically EVO in stage 3." Funny you should say that lol. The Evo's upgraded sound is actually an upgraded S2000 sound in the files and is used by the Tiburon and Civic as well
@nikobellic737
@nikobellic737 3 жыл бұрын
Yep and the Skyline doesn't use a Corolla sound in stage 3, it uses that Ferrari 360 sound file, which is also used in the rotaries I think.
@bullshark7888
@bullshark7888 3 жыл бұрын
@@nikobellic737 yeah you're right. Completely missed that one as well lol. The Skyline, RX-7, Supra, IS300 and RX-8 all use the Ferrari 360 sound, stupidly enough. As for the upgraded Corolla, that uses a Levin AE85 sound, realistically speaking, which they also used for the upgraded sound of the Celica
@nikobellic737
@nikobellic737 3 жыл бұрын
@@bullshark7888 if you tune it part by part instead of the level 1-2-3 package, you can choose not to use the part that changes the sound. You'll lose a bit of performance however. Anyway, I think there are some fixes for the sounds around there. For example, I hate that the the Eclipse has a V6 sound, and this mistake repeats in Carbon. But the fix changes that.
@moxxibiturbo
@moxxibiturbo 3 жыл бұрын
Cars like the Peugeot 206 were absolutetly lit on south america, I remember it was crazy seeing that car on the street and being able to go crazy on it in the game
@snow_en
@snow_en 3 жыл бұрын
I actually managed to pick up a physical PC copy for 5 bucks a month back. It is the one of the few games that gets me proper nostalgia aside from the GTA series and a few others. Although I grew up playing it on the original Xbox, the PC version plays extremely well and with that widescreen patch, all the more enjoyable. This video is actually a very good take on the game and I enjoyed every minute of it.
@Listerine99.9
@Listerine99.9 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, really liked the detailed analysis. I always felt that Black Box’s titles have some lacking points in terms of programming and progression… they are known for ridiculous rubberbandings, progression that takes days to really enjoy, and often difficulty failures. These factors are affecting me as time goes by, because unlike my 2000s days, where I only had 5 games for PS2 and NFSMW/TDU1 for my mediocre family desktop PC, I’m unable to dig them for a very long time as I now have much more games to play through and with my busier life. But still, despite the flaws that are getting stressful as time goes by… I still loved them, with UG2 of course. I loved such consistent, clear, and unique themes. I loved people gathering up and cheering for the races. I loved the soundtrack blasted to my ears along with my car’s engine noise at 300+ km/h. I loved the customization - especially the Tabby and Griffin speeedometer. I didn’t mind the story much, because all that mattered to me was the liveliness, the cars, the ‘monsterization’ with hundreds of parts, drifting in the streets, soundtrack, and the nitrous. There are the content, the atmosphere, the experience I haven’t experienced (to the same way) in other racing games. Maybe it’s because of the PS2-level graphics? Because of Nothing But You (Cirrus Remix)? Custom Gauges with a character inside? I can’t pick the exact reasons. And that is why I remembered this game for over a decade while being unable to play it (as my PS2 Slim’s lens melted long time ago), and why I still often come back to this game on my modern PC. The flaws can be significant to some. But even if the difficulty fails, even when I have to pull up a ‘100% completion savefile’ stuff because of getting tired to deal with the progression, you always have the jacked up cars to stare in the showrooms, drive around and hit the hydrualics button, and do quick races and look at the Tabby. That’s something hard to see in so many other racing games. And that is why it’s called a classic.
@RandomCarGuy17
@RandomCarGuy17 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you about the star rating. It's a bit annoying if progression is somewhat locked by applying visual upgrades to a car the game rates as good looking versus your own judgment. Something I don't miss in later NFS titles. and man, that part about winning outrun races explains an issue I had once. I remember in a playthrough I did as a kid getting stuck with no more races to compete in, I couldn't find any way to progress, not even in upgrades. All along all I had to do was just outrun some cars in free roam. Ugh. I mean, I have eventually beaten the game later in life, but still. EDIT: Oh right, I forgot to say what I thought of your video. I honestly think your review was fantastic, you worded yourself amazingly when describing each aspect. Whether it was the soundtrack, the pacing, content, or driving physics. I think you nailed it for a review. I actually agree with you on the finale, mainly because I forgot about the big bad guy in this game, I remember him causing the protagonist to lose his car and that's it.
@youtubeaccountlol4942
@youtubeaccountlol4942 2 жыл бұрын
What's the song you used during the credits? It was used in a NFS2015 trailer
@Kaceydotme
@Kaceydotme 2 жыл бұрын
It’s by Photek, it should be the one that shows as claimed in the descriptions
@youtubeaccountlol4942
@youtubeaccountlol4942 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kaceydotme ur GOATed , thx
@BillehBobJoe
@BillehBobJoe 3 жыл бұрын
i found out you could spin the AI out in underground 2, which sounds obvious but even games like gran turismo don't allow you to pivot the other AI cars as it would obviously trivialize the race. other need for speed games don't let you do this either, except UG1 i believe Also half the soundtrack is on my personal playlist. its amazing.
@TheBoostedDoge
@TheBoostedDoge Жыл бұрын
small corrections, outruns are not mandatory. You probably missed an upgrade somewhere, I'm willing to bet it was either NOS sprayers or spinners
@Kaceydotme
@Kaceydotme Жыл бұрын
If i'm not mistaken it does depend on which car you're driving, I think they have different base star levels. The Corolla starts out so low you _need_ uniques to progress.
@TheBoostedDoge
@TheBoostedDoge Жыл бұрын
@@Kaceydotme ohh yeah could be that, I've noticed in the past that some cars have a really hard time leveling up while others seem to be really easy. Either way thank you for the solid content
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