Gran Turismo 7 Is A Disappointment.

[@Kaceydotme]

I wanna pin this comment ahead of the premiere & address some stuff about GT7 that I didn't really find a way to work into the video. First: No, Gran Turismo 7 is not bad. I'm not saying it's a trash game or unplayable or whatever people on Twitter are calling it this week. I just am personally not enjoying the game all that much. The driving mechanics are solid, it's a very pretty game, and I am of course glad to see a mainline title releasing after so long.... but the issues I outline in the video make the experience feel very hollow to me, as someone who loved the singleplayer aspects of GT1-6. At the same time, the complete backseat Sport mode has taken is really disappointing to see after Polyphony carved out such an incredible foundation with Sport. It feels like they've overcorrected in response to the traditional, singleplayer crowd-- whose opinions are of course valid, but these two sides of the game could coexist much better than they currently do. I also find the handling model to be a bit shit, with ridiculous snap oversteer in even the slowest, weakest RWD vehicles. This is admittedly a mixture of playing on controller & being used to Sport's more forgiving throttle.... but this is, once again, too far in another direction. I've played iRacing on a controller with less frustration than I've experienced here. It feels as if the entire game was built around GT3 cars on racing tires & everything else just.... doesn't grip. I am glad I didn't end up seeing it as important enough to address compared to this video's main points, because literally the day I finalized the video & sent it off for sponsor review, the 1.13 patch adjusted the handling. It is *not* fixed, the RX-8 still snap oversteers as if it doesn't have the torque of a lawnmower, but correcting oversteer is now.... possible, instead of a fool's errand. Anyways, I'm excited to hear about how y'all are feeling about GT7. I know it's been a divisive game among fans-- though it seems nobody is without complaints here or there. edit: comments about driving line & assists are pretty rude, and usually wrong. I do not have brake assist on, as some have insinuated. I had TCS on ONE because of how bad the snap oversteer was. Note that this video came out the same day as the patch where they reduced RWD oversteer. Because it was bad. As for the driving line: I have ADHD & I dissociate/zone out really easily. The driving line stops me from ruining a ~10 minute race by accidentally driving off the track or missing a braking zone. if I know a track really well, I don't need it, but I also have trouble memorizing track layouts due to that same disability.

[@UniversalStand]

You must be playing before 1.13. The snap oversteer simply isn’t there.

[@Frankenslide]

Hey man I would invite you try the game in those FR and MR platforms again since yesterday’s patch as they addressed this just yesterday and driving these cars now is all the pleasure you would expect. It’s night and day better

[@Kaceydotme]

@@UniversalStand yes it is, I tested it again post patch and it is still a problem on the RX-8- albeit much easier to correct.

[@FiendishOne468]

1.13 definitely made the Circuit Experiences a LOT easier for me (as well as a generally better driving experience overall). Even as someone who managed to earn gold on the NA version of R-6 on GT3, there are a select few sectors that felt impossible to gold on a controller. GT7 made me realize I no longer like Catalunya after spending well over an hour on sector 3, lol I've been getting away with flooring it out of certain corners that would've punished me for even giving 25% throttle in the past. It might not be as big a challenge as license tests of the past, but I'm no longer pulling my hair out over inconsistent driving mechanics

[@DanArnets1492]

Is Ride 4 the final pure vehicle collector videogame then? I've been playing it for like 2 weeks now and it's pure as fuck - You can buy whatever whenever, you can hate some type of sportbike or circuit and still be fine... Here is some things I dislike about an otherwise great game: · The lack of European sportbikes between 1985 and 1999 (they skipped some GREAT Ducatis) plus the scarcity of Japanese ones (Suzuki has the most with THREE, Yamaha & Kawasaki have 2 each, Honda has ONE) · The complete lack of pre-sportbike (1985) fast bikes · The complete lack of TTF3 sportbikes (1980s/90s 400cc 4-cylinder sportbikes) · The complete lack of "supertwins" (midsize 2-cylinder sportbikes, very popular nowadays) · The amount of paid DLC (so many fantastic bikes locked behind real cash!) · How the adjustable difficulty works (only affects how the AI accelerates, not how it brakes or corners, which means the AI guys can be really fast around certain circuits even on a very low difficulty setting) · The simplicity of the endurance mode (1st motorbike game to have one so whatever, no multiclass racing!) · How non-dark the darkest of places are (you can run around on a racebike without lights at 3:00 no problem) I hope Ride 5 keeps the core mechanics, readjusts the career mode (it's over 500 races long), expands on the endurance mode and has a better vehicle selection

[@HGRAP1]

The issue is that companies took "live service" to mean "release an incomplete game and complete it late"

[@valletas]

Live services suck honestely And now sega is trying to make the "super game" "No dude its not live service its completely different"

[@scuckplexity]

@@valletas it's good that they're trying to keep the servers alive (especially on older games) with live services but seriously the always online requirements sucks as hell

[@Yadeehoo]

Where is the "service" part in live service

[@Twitch_Moderator]

Complete WHAT later? CP2077? Yes. GT7? No. GT7 is my favorite GT game of all times. I absolutely love it. I still have GT5, 6, Sport and now 7. I Love them all.

[@BleedForTheWorld]

@@scuckplexity Everything about live service games is not good it's inherently anti consumer all the way.

[@ramenfan0]

I'm actually starting to agree with my dad when he said "y'know, I actually regret wasting £50 on an incomplete game"

[@Pullarusina2837]

I wasted 100€ on this game 🤦

[@tomtomtomtomtomtomtomtoom]

I also thought GT Café was a side mode, I couldn't believe it when I finally got to play the game. I'm still enjoying the game, and I'm still hopeful for the future of it. But if it wasn't for that I'd probably be devastated... Let's hope for the best!

[@mrdorifto]

Same

[@Nice-gh2hy]

Yeah I feel the same way about GT Cafe. But that doesn't mean it's bad, I think it works really well towards the more casual and younger audience of the game. You go to the GT cafe, get yourself a new simple object and get rewarded with a new car if you complete the race in top 3. It's simple and fun to do. However I do hope they'll add an expansion to the game where they have a GT4 circuit experience later on, because I myself am craving for that.

[@GokuTheHusky]

Theyve been trash since 5. This company doesnt care and people will keep buying into it.

[@Yoshiman2024]

@@GokuTheHusky Yeah, I mean, they don't learn from their mistakes and false advertising this game like a "modern GT4" really backlashed (again). GT5 was a huge mistake, GT6 was just plain boring and GT Sport was another game which didn't fulfill its promises. I couldn't even be hyped for GT7 after all these issues. Unfortunately, they didn't prove me wrong. Gran Turismo always was an outcast in the racing game genre. But this worked, since is was different which meant that people had a reason to buy GT. Nowadays, GT isn't that much different than PC2 for example. It has become an irrelevant game. Case in point; my closest city (Antwerp, Belgium) was covered in GT7 ads for about 2 months. 10 years ago, everyone who knows video games would know what Gran Turismo is. Now, people were literally asking why buses and trains were covered in a "car ad named GT7". People don't even recognise the Gran Turismo brand which 10 years ago, was maybe one of the most associated products with Playstation.

[@GuardsRed996]

Yes me too. I was waiting for the moment I unlock the GT Mode until I have realised that I‘ve already completed the game. In my opinion even GT Sport has more Single Player content and feels more like „old“ Gran Turismo.

[@Ikcatcher]

GT7 honestly just feels like an expansion to GT Sport, the fact that most of the UI are practically the same just adds into that argument

[@lancecardinal5399]

I be telling people this all the time lmao gt7 is not a new game just an updated gt sport lmao

[@mitsuvolts03]

​@@lancecardinal5399 ikr lmao it's just gt sport 2.0 lmao it's so hilarious lmao

[@jrojassengard2586]

That's an insult to how good the menu design was in GTS GT7 feels like the worst of both sides of the franchise

[@bobbybobo6499]

I’m about 120 hours into this game and have really enjoyed racing. With that said I agree 100% with all your points.

[@XxMoonMan]

And i do not. With my 120 hrs.

[@YasinVanDoorsen]

Is it worth it to get the PS4 version tho cos ive never played GT

[@opupfg]

@@YasinVanDoorsen just get GT sport on a sale it's the same game. GT7 not worth it.

[@andreasmoller9798]

@@opupfg gt7 is much better

[@exodus3504]

​@@opupfg sport is worse

[@1MonoComplex]

Well said, kacey. Glad people are speaking up about GT7. GT7, technically amazing. Fundamentally broken.

[@Kangiru_Noah]

mainly ruined by the always online requirement

[@THENAMEISQUICKMAN]

@@Kangiru_Noah No. That's drivel made up for easy outrage content farming. "IT'S BAD BECAUSE ONLINE CONNECTION AND MICROTRANSACTIONS" does nothing to address the *real* problems a game has.

[@suntannedduck2388]

@@Kangiru_Noah that's the part that annoyed me the most from wanting to play it at all if the series is going to continue this way I'll pick up other racing games or old games instead. The structure may be fine but for singleplayer players it just put me off.

[@TrueBlade-1889]

Woah. Don't go on Reddit talking like that. The fanbois will eat you alive, with Downvotes ! 🤣🤣🤣

[@Kashmirknight]

This game is a POS. I have owned it since launch. Played it a lot. I have not unlocked full game yet due to that cafe. I waited 3 weeks for a freaking civic to pop up to unlock more tracks. Now I am 3 weeks in waiting on a 429 Mustang that I am told is won on the Blue moon race. I have the blue moon track unlocked BUT there is no race there. So I now cannot progress.....AGAIN. I just stopped playing. Got far to frustrating.

[@WH250398]

What do the game and this video have in common? Both are inaccessible without internet

[@TheLingo56]

At least you can download this video and have access to it forever. Can't say the same for GT7 despite paying $70 for it.

[@robsmall6466]

Now this....... this is what I call a comment ( 👍 WH250398 )

[@teddywhite2483]

Atleast in GT Sport you can still access your garage cars while offline and play on any race track..GT7 you can only play with 13 default cars while offline and run the tracks the you unlocked while playing online-_-

[@RonaldMcVale]

Aged poorly.

[@TheHawtDawg1]

The game feels unfinished at the moment. We're missing race events for Gr 1 & 2, no fan-favorite championships (GT all stars, PD cup, dream car championship, F1, etc), and no seasonal events. Even once you purchase a cool car from the legendary dealer, there are very few things to actually do with the car unless you want to grind money or do custom races. Also kinda disappointed that more than half the soundtrack is from the GT5P-GT6 era. Previous games remixed classic songs from GT1 & 2 in the menus and races. Nowhere to be found now. I can't help but think this game needed another year in the oven, but Sony may have been impatient given the cost to make the game.

[@Philo229]

Gr.2 Race Event was added this week. Also, Nations cup Test Season 3 has a Gr.2 race coming up at the start of May.

[@KiroteHikari]

there are actually some songs used in replays from previous games, I know Glowl and Mirage from GT3 are in the game

[@MrManBuzz]

Having it billed as a "return to form" and the classic Gran Turismo formula returning, I feel pretty betrayed by it to be honest. Replacing the old formula with the cafe was one of the worst decisions in game design I've seen in a lot time. The cafe itself is actually quite a nice feature. It should've been an optional side thing where you had all menus unlocked from the get go, and as you collected cars naturally yourself, you began to fill in the menus. Having the races be track based and not event based (Sunday cup with 3 races, Clubman Cup with 3, Turbo/NA etc) was also a terrible idea. The way they've constructed the dealerships also feels like it's been intentionally restricted for no reason other than encourage FOMO. Why can't I go into the brand central and look at their legendary cars in the way you could in GT4? I loved seeing all the special cars that were in the game, and wondered how did you win them. Speaking of which, something I've not really seen anyway talk about, but I absolutely hate the fact they showed you the prize car before you even started the race. One of the things I found most exciting in the old GT games was seeing what prize car was awaiting you once you won all the races in the event. I simply cannot fathom the people defending this game who claim to have played the older GT games. GT7 is something that had the potential to be great if their first objective was to make a great game, but it wasn't. It's first objective was to make the game just good enough to get players to tolerate it while tweaking everything to encourage the purchase of microtransactions ever so slightly wherever possible at the expense of the enjoyment of the game. Modern gaming has really left me feeling disillusioned with my lifelong hobby.

[@TheSpeedfoever]

Well don't think about quitting games yet they can still fix it and it's fun for me

[@doshwhop]

Thank you for so much for this comment! I've not played the game yet as I was going to just wait and see if they would patch in a proper "offline" mode down the track. That and I was still trying to get my hands on the ever elusive PS5 to begin with. I'm not even going to bother now as I completely agree with the points you raised in your comment. Things like the prize car no longer being revealed as a surprise at the end, or that races are just categorised by track and not into events. They are such small things but it's what makes me treasure the Classic GT games. I think with the direction the series has headed I'll just be content with having fun playing GT 6 on my PS3 and no longer dwelling on it. If I'm lucky enough to see a future return to form than that will be a bonus.

[@nopenope9153]

Nail on the head. They removed the freedom of player choice with cafe garbage. Collect these 3 cars you dont want. Do that again 20 times. Imagine if they didnt waste their development time on this. The campaign could of actually had a decent amount of events and not feel like a rushed afterthought. World circuits is an absolute uncoherent mess. Menu layout makes no sense at all. Secret prize cars were a staple motivator in completing the game. Now you have intentionally rigged daily roulettes with crap prizes. And sport mode filled with bop races. Very sad that more than 50% of the cars is a race variant or some retarded ass vision concept thing. Also i miss the 20 variants of the same cars. I want the s4 rx7 infini without the turbo. Not the s5 rx7 gtx savannah. Alot of things that made GT unique have died over each release.

[@nottherishov6415]

Gran turismo 7 disappointed me so much I whipped out my old PS3 and began playing GT6

[@upload2137]

Can’t stand people defending it either, we had so many great games in gt6. All the bmw’s, audi’s, mercs. Pages full of them in the store. Also the career mode i was playing it all night for days to finish it in cars like the v10 rs6. Way more fun game

[@Sleepy_Moon84]

GT7…personally felt hollow. It doesn’t feel as charming as the older titles. I miss having the endless amount of cars, even if they were duplicates. I miss the rock vibe that I got from the series. I miss how we could actually see our car being washed and repaired in GT5, etc. It feels…sterile. Too sterile to the point it feels hollow. I hate being forced to collect cars; I don’t care about that, I just want to build my own car, my own race car. I hate how every race is a catch mission, rather than a grid start. It’s so annoying, because by the time I’m 2nd place, 1st had already finished 3 minutes ago. I want to be a race driver. Not a car collector who stores their cars in some warehouse only to never drive them again.

[@left4speed519]

GT5 was the last good Gran Turismo game in the series. PERIOD.

[@Eden-vt8bx]

@@left4speed519 It was the first GT that I bought when it launched in 2010. Loved the game very much. It’s easily one of the best games that I’ve played.

[@marvinlinnarz5856]

If they would make it an actual competition, including a Qualfying (it might be up to the Player If it's Just one flying lap or as much time as the Player want, like it was in GT4) to decide the Grid. I also miss plenty of 80's and 90's Cars.

[@left4speed519]

@@Eden-vt8bx I spent so many hours in that game.

[@sehhmie5483]

Its because those shitty simracing crybaby gonna complain if the game isnt focus on online only

[@tHeWasTeDYouTh]

"GT7 needs always online to make it better" -said no one ever

[@Wafflecombo54]

They only do the online bs for piracy reasons

[@tHeWasTeDYouTh]

@@Wafflecombo54 piracy on ps4 and ps5?

[@antiquecardboard]

@@Wafflecombo54 Prevent the lose of 10,000 sales to piracy at the cost of creating millions of pissed off fans. Makes sense.

[@Pri11-k7l]

Lol not all of us internet these days

[@GamerErman2001]

When I finished the cafe I was really disappointed that I didn't unlock some sort of career mode or a ton of events and championships. I know I can do custom races but they don't seem to provide much of a reward. Also I don't like the daily workout system.

[@gocawot4165]

There are missions, circuit experience, online racing. Enough content

[@zachw2538]

Once i realized how bad the time to reward balance was i uninstalled it.

[@bfcricky]

@@gocawot4165 Don’t be stupid, those are just boring time trials and one time stupid events that are no fun at all, the fundamental part of GT is missing in GT7, and you know it

[@mfallen6894]

@@gocawot4165 If there was enough content I wouldn't have moved back to Sport, lol. Game is a disaster compared to the hype leading up to it. "A return to the series roots" Man, what a bunch of bullshit that turned out to be. The only thing even remotely similar to the first 6 GT games is it has tuning and license tests. We don't have the content that corresponds to the license tests though, lol. IB/IA/S licenses, zero races or championships that require those licenses... It's going to take 3-4 years before this game is anywhere near where it should have been at launch.

[@Gorealaracer38]

when i got to dirt rally,i was done with the cafe 😂!!! got wht i need.

[@gedav1234]

I was so exited when gt7 came out that I bought it on launch. I didn’t enjoy the cafe it felt like something to get over with to get the full game. But after I completed it the game didn’t have much to offer.

[@sinan_3384]

What doesn’t it have that previous GT games have? The old GT mode is just in the World Circuits now reshuffled in structure a bit. All those races still require a certain license and certain class of car to race in. You can either buy the car necessary or tune ones you already have to race in them. You can do all the mission challenges which are unique and challenging and of course the circuit experiences. Just confused as to what this game is missing compared to the old GTs now.

[@sinan_3384]

@@niismo. god forbid the game has a vision to introduce car culture and history in a unique way as an added level of content. Don’t worry the races you want to use the cars you like in won’t disappear from existence. They’re still there and newer ones will be added over time.

[@mitpoker7319]

@@sinan_3384 Well then said vision must have taken the wrong place in the game or may have just been executed incorrectly. Because if introducing me to "car culture" is what this sorry excuse of a racing game is trying to do, then it's doing a terrible job in comparison to how other mediums do it. I don't need a videogame in order to introduce me to "car culture." I have Jalopnik, Doug DeMuro, and the first 3 Fast and Furious films for that. Gran Turismo is a videogame interpreted as a racing simulator, not a documentary or a school textbook. I want to drive and go fast, not read somebody's drivel and opinions about "car culture".

[@sinan_3384]

@@mitpoker7319 you’re angry that this game set out to do something you didn’t want it to do. If you’re not interested in being introduced to car culture then why buy this game? Make your own damn game or play another racing sim, there are several out there. Why get mad at a dev for having a vision of what THEY want for THEIR game and delivering on that?

[@mitpoker7319]

@@sinan_3384 Ok... So it's a pile of dog matter that tries to introduce me to car culture. There... Did I get it right? And as far as introductions to car culture go. (Which I've already been introduced, years before the first PlayStation even came out) My point was that there are other mediums that do better justice to car culture rhetoric. And I say this because the way this game tries to do it is vain, cringy, lame, and pathetic. This game is rather an insult to car culture. Car culture in this game is a vanity, rather than a supplement. And as far as videogame racing sims go, Racing sims are not about car culture, kid. They're about driving and going fast, that's it. Everything else should come second. Otherwise, the consequence is what you get in Gt7, an unfinished pile of matter that lacks content.... and tries to introduce me to car culture. This game is not a vision. It's a blindsight. A laughing-stock to racing sims. And someone's personal vanity project.

[@bobbobson3652]

I honestly can't fathom why they tried to reinvent the wheel here, the campaign system from 4 through 6 worked just fine. But this? No Gr1 and 2 events? A general lack of events? A side system that's forced down your throat as the main objective? It makes the game feel as sparse and barebones as GT Sport.

[@danielstokker]

They will get added later calm down

[@THENAMEISQUICKMAN]

@@danielstokker They shouldn't need post-launch DLC to do something that was done just fine on the fucking PS2.

[@effinjamieTT]

@@danielstokker people like you are why games companies keep pulling this shit!

[@cvswinepapi2465]

If they made it like past games you would still be here complaining just like op

[@Philo229]

There is a Gr.2 Race coming up in the Nations Cup Test Season 3 in just over 1 weeks time.

[@cristhian900]

When you end up redownloading Project Cars 3 because it doesn’t take ages to collect cars and isn’t online service only, you know PD messed up

[@JesseAllenJr]

I didn't realize until this video: the camera has never been hard locked to the rear exterior until GT7 - the most beautiful racing game on the market. It seems counterproductive toward showcasing a gorgeous game - what could they possibly gain, from a programming perspective, by having players restricted to a single exterior angle? Watching it in this video makes it painfully apparent how stiff and straight up 80s era that camera angle is. Edit: seems ppl are missing my point. Changing the distance or FOV of your camera means nothing if you can't change the angle of approach, aka look at the side of your car. I shouldn't have to enter a camera mode or garage to see the side of my car in a game this beautiful lol. Hell I think NFS on the 3DO even had side view in the early 90s.

[@kriskater]

You can change it to make it look more like forza or nfs… wait till your playing then go to settings > camera settings > and lower both of the values to zero 👍🏽

[@Harmoodi]

chill bro u can change the camera the way u like

[@Slomowo]

Yeah, you can change it in the settings, and GTS had the same thing before GT7.

[@truckercowboyed2638]

obviously you haven't actually played then

[@ashdog236]

@@Harmoodi even after changing it, it’s still static and limited compared to other games chase cams.

[@Jeyeyeyey]

A modern game is a letdown? Who could've seen that coming!

[@mirrorslash028]

I'm happy with my 2000s games, anything after 2013 is either indie or a rare occasion where the game is actually good, like elden ring.

[@kuriankeralaIndia]

@@mirrorslash028 Battlefield 1 by Dice/EA

[@TheyWantMeGone69]

@@mirrorslash028 It seems to me that gaming really fell off after 2013. With the exceptions of Jedi Fallen Order, Days Gone, Ghost of Tushima etc.

[@marcosneto9412]

@@mirrorslash028 or nier automata. That game is a masterpiece. Or even persona 5. There are still some great games that came out after 2013

[@kivori3438]

Elden ring to me is good, also ace combat 7 (2019) went back to his origins and delivered pretty well, its my favourite even if generally speaking ac4 is the best.

[@TheCrohnieGamer]

My biggest gaming regret... buying this game! You notice that you do not even need to do licenses? You used to have to do them to enter certain races! Now they are just there "to do if you want"

[@henrik1743]

Totally agree with you, I feel it so tedious to have to press 20 loading menus to change anything or to go anywhere in the game, so outdated in that respect.

[@RiasatSalminSami]

Grinding for hours to unlock a car is not my thing tbh. By that point I will already get bored of the game and uninstall.

[@Lollikips]

Maybe I'm stupid, but I've loved it from start to finish. The new update remodeled the geometry calculations for suspension, and cars feel SO much nicer to drive. The Ai SUCKS at moving out of the way and NOT crashing in to you, other than that, nice.

[@adamyzfr7009]

Love this game also

[@marvinlinnarz5856]

What i like the Most is, that you can Race against your own Cars. I already wished for that in Sport, a year before GT7 even came out

[@carkary]

You're not stupid. Is the KZbinrs hungry for click's. This day's you talk shit anything Sony and you get views.

[@disruptor6550]

@@carkary Hey come on now, that's not fair. While it's true that those kinds of videos usually get good/better clicks, doesn't mean everyone makes them just for clicks' sake. Almost all of the points are valid, and a good chunk of the community feels the same way. Nobody says you're not allowed to love the game. If you are enjoying it, then more power to you. Everyone is free to like whatever they want. But at the same time everyone is also free to dislike whatever they want. The video brings up good points and arguments, and the criticism is valid. I have been playing GT for over 2 decades, and am a big fan of the series as a whole, but I'm still able to admit that the game has flaws. I think people complain so much BECAUSE they love the series, and want it to do well. It's sad to see GT7 in such a state. It does many things well, but does a lot more things terribly wrong. I just hope PD learn from this and make things better in the future.

[@tooprood]

the actual driving part is fine! the whole, you know, game part, is complete dogshit though

[@Under10Hours]

Damn. I have been following GT7's release out of genuine curiosity, and I was looking for a fan's perspective. This just feels like they missed the mark in meaningful ways. Great video.

[@ReallyRealColby]

I've been playing GT from day one. Still own my original ps1 copy. The game is fine. GT7 is consistent with past entries, if not the best of the bunch. It mostly feels like the character of gamers in general has gotten worse more than anything...

[@zerofive5734]

@@ReallyRealColby how exactly is forcing people to do GT cafe better than the open nature of license tests and various championships in the previous games? locking cars behind a realtime timer? I still like this game but you can't ignore the obvious flaws. I really hope they make GT8 a TRUE return to basics. One more thing that's specific to me is that i preferred the music of the previous games, GT3 and GT5 being my favourites. I don't think classical fits very well.

[@RandomCarGuy17]

Gran Turismo 7 felt like it could've been my new favorite game in the franchise. It had the custom parts from GT6 back plus new part options combined with GT Sport's amazing livery editor. It was bringing back some of my favorite cars from the past games up til that point plus bringing along some new-to-series stuff. It wasn't new cars, sure, but it was stuff I was completely interested in driving. But, your video in a few ways reflected my inner thoughts and feelings about the game. Polyphony clearly making the UCD and Legends dealership as a means to keep players coming back to playing GT7 to avoid missing cars, this is the same tactic that Playground Games has used for Forza Horizon 4 & 5, and I HATE it! I hate only weekly assessable cars that will only come back weeks later in real life versus being in-game unlocks or at least an in-game cycle. I also was disappointed on the fact GT Cafe mode was the main career mode rather than just side missions, which takes away the fun of picking and choosing which events I do first. I mean, there's some choice there as you can still pick which event to do first in most of the books, but it's still so limiting compared to past entries. What's worse about it is that the career is too short and unfinished, that video with Jimmy Fallon showing later book events proved that to me. I don't know if it was the typical PD rush preventing the extra events or maybe they did that on purpose to drip feed events for the next few months. Whatever the case, it sucks. With that said, I think you did an excellent job capturing the bigger issues with GT7 outside of the Microtransactions.

[@beastmode3172]

In my personal opinion, I think the lack of content is what makes the game feel rather shallow, as if after you complete the entire cafe, you only are left with doing races, license test, and missions, which can all be completed in a week or two. Granted, we just got a update that adds 3 new cars, and another event, however I feel like we need more instead of less. GT7 is a great game, and I'm having my fun with it, however it's important to talk about the flaws of the game, instead of trying to go right over them.

[@nevvanclarke9225]

Lack of content 427 cars plus more added already 60 plus tracks License tests Online racing lobby Daily races Championships Tuning Scapes And more...seriously

[@ogle_aiden2156]

@@nevvanclarke9225 and Gran Turismo 6 had 1200+ cars 86 tracks (it even had the moon) license tests an online lobby tuning championships a camera mode all on the Ps3, Gran turismo 4 had 700+ cars, 51 tracks (technically more because most of the 51 tracks had reverse layouts), championships, one of the earliest forms of photomode and it ran at 1080p on the ps2. If polyphony can do all of that on a ps2 console they could definitely have a 1600+ car list with a 100+ track list with the ps5s capabilities. Gt7 is missing over 854 cars and over 20 tracks and layouts, without the alternate layouts gt7 has only 35 different tracks these numbers should be going up not down, they also didn't have to completely change deep forest and trial mountain and could've at least included the older layouts like how gt4 had the 80s, 90, and 00s layouts of fuji, they completely butchered the ford gt lm race car spec II while forgetting to add other dtm cars for the Alfa Romeo 155 dtm to compete with. so far they have only added 6 cars in 2 months and this trend of incomplete games getting released needs to stopped, nobody wanted the gt cafe to be the career mode of gt7, all we can do really now is to have better hopes for gran turismo 8

[@valletas]

Worst part for me is the DRM Man i can ignore the agressive griding and monetization but please just let me play the thing that I OWN I refuse to play any game with DRM because i know that less then 5% games with DRM gets an update that removes it All others die

[@kevingame3198]

Forza horizon 5 can be played both offline and online And also they listen to the community feedback unless your an Xbox user

[@THENAMEISQUICKMAN]

DRM is not inherently bad. Things like Denuvo are DRM gone wrong, but DRM itself is perfectly fine.

[@valletas]

@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN no dude i dont think you know what drm is because EVERY drm is like denuvo What you are thinking about is anti piracy with im ok with but DRM by definition makes the game unplayable without an internet connection regardless if it is denuvo or anything else

[@RXGTP]

Honestly i was very excited when this Game came out, after the State of Play presentation i felt really hyped about this Game and what it could have been, i bought on Day 1 (Actually 2) for my PS4 (Yeah, i don't have a PS5 and for the moment that Console doesn't truly catch my attention), i putted the Disc, i was truly very happy to finally see a Gran Turismo Intro with Moon Over The Castle for the very first time worldwide and after i started playing the Game... It didn't feel right, the "Career Mode" felt kinda empty and extremely short compared to other GT Games (Even GT1 & GT Sport's GT League are even Longer than this attempt of GT Mode), i was just doing races and getting Cars, it took me less than a month to finish this crap, after that the only thing left to do was grinding and get cars, at first with the troublematic economy from versions 1.07 to 1.09 was really a pain in the ass to grind credits just to get the Car you want, also the lack of events make this problem even worse since now you have to grind and grind the same race over and over again just to get like 50k Credits per race, luckily 1.11 came and it pretty much improved the economy and with the addition of endurance events like the 30 Minute Circuit de la Sarthe Gr. 4 Event (Which is my favorite) that gives you 550k Cr or even 800k Cr if you do a clean race and now in 1.13 the 1 Hour Spa Francorchamps Gr. 3 Event that gives you 1M Cr really helped with the in-game economy, because of that i don't see the pay to win thing truly as the biggest problem anymore, now the true big issue is the pretty much Barebones State the Game is at the moment and the lack of stuff to do in the Game and the lack of race events for you to take advantage of your Garage, truly we URGENTLY need Gr. 1 and Gr. 2 Race Events since there are literally NOTHING at the moment, and also more races that involve Normal Cars that have Standing Grids, since at the moment we only have 2 of them that are from the Clubman Cup Plus Race Events, and i truly want to see more of them.

[@javsRFX]

A lot of expensive cars don't have any use, I take the opportunity to buy all the invitation cars in grand central but no one can be used in events unless you detuned

[@RXGTP]

@@javsRFX Hopefully the Updates can change that, which in a way it sucks

[@nismogtr3702]

I got Gran Turismo 7 on launch. So excited to play it. I remember first booting into Simulation Mode as I still call it and was like, wait, "where are the licenses? where is the dealership?" then after I unlocked them I figured out what was going on. I have played every single game of GT and my disappointment was immeasurable when I found out GT Cafe wasn't a side thing, it was the whole game. I played for 2 days and never touched it again. I wanted a traditional GT game on the PS5. Not this linear experience. Don't get me started on the used and historic cars that are limited in stock and update every now and then :/

[@disruptor6550]

They are improving the game over time, so I'm confident the game will be in a much better spot some time from now. But I 100% don't blame you for quitting after just a couple of days. As said in the video, the game will be better in the future, but not many will stick around to witness it sadly. The first impression is very important for games. If a game doesn't convince you from the get go, then usually the majority of the player base drops the game and never touches it again, regardless of future updates that are supposed to improve the game. I can kinda live with all the other "bad" things mentioned in the video, but not having the freedom based career mode like in the older games was definitely devastating to see. The linear menu book progression was the single worst thing a GT game has ever done in 25 years, and I really hope that GT8 goes back to the old career mode style. I'm still playing GT7, simply because it's GT, but it definitely has a lot of wasted potential.

[@dadclips]

You stopped playing 2 months ago and are still watching videos about it?

[@nismogtr3702]

@@dadclips Um, no. It popped up in my recommended lol.

[@IronBrotherhood4]

Bro I thought the cafe was a tutorial until the credits rolled….

[@ronm9357]

I played it twice as well over two weekends. I thought this game was going to be a winner, so much so I bought the Logitech wheel. I haven't touched either in over a month. I felt as if I just paid $60 dollars to give me access to the online game. Should i, for whatever reason, not have internet connection or if I don't also pay for PlayStation plus, I cannot play 99% of the game for which I already paid $60. Doubtful I'll ever buy the next version of this game.

[@danieldorn9989]

Its now more than 2 months after release, and we still cant even sell cars...

[@brawler5760]

It’s mystifying how they still haven’t implemented a core feature in 2 months…

[@danieldorn9989]

@@brawler5760 I think a great feature would be for an auction house where you can sell your car. Make an awesome livery, and let people fight to get it. Or have a specially tuned car. This would encourage people to use their livery making skills to make money. Or maybe make it able to set this car with its livery as a price of a race. The winner gets it. This would certainly increase the fun of the game. I would go there every day to check out new auctions and look at whats interesting to me. Some people are bad at tuning or making liveries, so if they can win races, they now have another option to get a great car. But right now? You cant even set filters for the used car market. I would like to filter out cars I already have and which are not availlable anymore.

[@brawler5760]

@@danieldorn9989 Basically just take the auction house from the Forza series and put it into GT7… that’d be wonderful for real. Actually I have a much better idea, allow us to sell our cars on the used dealership.

[@midnighttornado22]

Not being able to sell off cars right off of launch is probably my biggest WTF moment in this game. Especially when the devs are so uptight and prissy about economy. Economy... in a Gran Turismo game? Like, who the hell cares?

[@brawler5760]

@@midnighttornado22 That’s my biggest WTF moment in any racing game.

[@HimeSiffie]

if i want to be honest, i am pretty excited to get my hands on GT7 but i'd rather play GT6 for another 8 times since it has way more replayability

[@GreatestHeroDeku]

Even GT4 has more enjoyment than 7 sadly

[@TrueBlade-1889]

Great city circuits ... just a shame about the bad framerates. Should've given 5 a HD makeover. Would be 10x better than this gargarge ....

[@GreatestHeroDeku]

@@niismo. at least with 6 there was no always online live service nonsense

[@tooprood]

@@GreatestHeroDeku wdym "Even" gt4? GT4 is arguably the best in the series, and to me easily takes the top spot.

[@vanwallgt1]

And people said this was the spiritual successor to GT4... GT Sport was legit just GT7 prologue

[@gudgejm]

For me the most disappointing part is the Sport mode. I expected to have a wider variety of online races with the road cars, tuning, formula cars, Gr1 cars, whatever... But its still the same Gr3/Gr4 lago maggiore/red bull ring all over again. Also they could at least give use one ot 2 karting tracks if they decide to add karts..

[@icecreampimpdeux]

To be fair Maggiore is fantastic and one of the best circuits of the series. It's so damn good, but I do agree that it sure comes up alot in Sport

[@gudgejm]

@@icecreampimpdeux it is in fact one of my top 5 fav tracks, but still its only a few cars that are being used. I wish i could use any of my tuned road cars in any ranked online race. And not a private lobby one, im good without Tomahawks in my race

[@icecreampimpdeux]

@@gudgejm same here Dailies need a tuning race

[@thefourfourfour9512]

I want more race types in sport mode , especially a few more fun type races , yet if they do that some lobbies will be lacking players. Im not sure how many players play online at any given time , but from what i see on the lobbies most ppl wanna race 800pp and higher or just gr3. When i enter the 'Meeting Place' its the same thing, majority are just testing the fastest cars possible or some gr3 vehicle.

[@icecreampimpdeux]

@@thefourfourfour9512 Meeting Places are the best though, it's fun to cruise and race on the fly with others

[@peterh407]

GT7 is a poor package after seven years, yes seven years of development genuinely other than the graphics what is new? The game is GT Sport for the racing elements and GT5/6 for the non racing stuff. They call it the driving simulator but there is no driving in it only racing, the racing is more likely to be a negative experience than positive because of utterly ineffective Penalty System, to be competitive in racing you have to have a wheel. A wheel allows much much improved performance of the car and this reflected in lap times - Joypad users have been left out to dry by the developer who only seems interested in supporting their A S rated drivers not mere mortals Non racing is good, car tuning excellent but the buying of cars and car choice is poor, there are NO modern cars in the roster, everything has been seen before in previous versions You mention the tutorials, these do not teach racing which to me a major fail I could go on but the overwhelming experience of the game is negative, this is a 6 out of 10 game at best

[@davejones9469]

You should tweet this right at them. I feel exactly like you do, with one additional gripe: I've been playing sport, I thought I was in the loop, but I saw ZERO advertising and so missed the pre order cars without having a chance to even choose.

[@neoncaelestis]

Honestly, the biggest shortcoming and what scared me off from buying GT7 was how it felt like it didn't recapture what made past titles like 4 good: making the game a celebration of cars and driving, instead of being an okay online focused racer with mediocre singleplayer content. Also, considering how Polyphony supported online in past titles, I'm scared for when it shuts down.

[@gyalking]

be scared for gt sport 😂 they are ignoring it more than rockstar does with red dead

[@NixonYusa]

I haven't purchased GT7 since I'm currently studying abroad and was planning to buy GT7 when I get home or if I get a playstation if I'm extending my stay here - but given the feedback from the players on discord servers I usually hang out with, I have my reservations on the game itself especially the FOMO elements, roulette tickets, and microtransactions. Almost daily that people complained about the rigged roulette tickets for a while. I appreciate the honesty on this video, and this does add more to my reservations on this game. This is not the GT game I anticipated. Maybe if it were to be improved in the future is when I'd consider purchasing it, but for now, I'll just observe and watch others play.

[@acesenpai98]

As a long time Gran Turismo fan, I really loved this video essay. You described the issues this game has really well and the fact that you saw them long before everyone else did was really impressive. It was very insightful and does reveal the true nature as to what is going on with the franchise as of now.

[@mysterymeat6460]

I hated having to play this game the way the devs wanted me to play it rather than the way *I* wanted to play it

[@Koen1702]

Side note: the reason why Gt7 looks better in motion than Gt Sport, is because Gt7 uses a sort of motion blur that looks very realistic.

[@pr3o5]

Nail on the head with this one. Campaign is is like a giant tutorial forcing only certain cars to be played👎 and the used car dealership selection is a waste of ram it's useless especially considering that brand central only sells cars made past 2001 the used car dealership was a huge flop this game disappointed on so many levels. Upgrade your car to the max and lose all reasonable control regardless of different tune setups cause uea that's how it is irl why else trick a car out if not to lose all drivability

[@Zanarkand_0]

100% agree with you. I always felt the heart of the GT games was how unique each playthrough was. We all had an incentive to talk about our playthrough from each of the games because it was always different. Now, it's barely unique. combined with it's clusterfuck race menu and forcing online only. I was so annoyed I was going to trade it in and get at least some of my money back. Feels like there are no major developers that give a shit about the art form anymore. Just about how the user can be exploited. I was so disappointed with this. Thank fuck Elden Ring was good lol

[@tonkinesenchill4240]

The real shame with modern gaming is that I don’t think the industry as a whole will ever be what our generation wants it to be based on the games we used to love growing up. The entire industry is very different now and I see it all continuing in the same vain from here on. On thing which made games great in years gone by is that companies couldn’t get away with releasing fluffed out or unfinished content like they can now. In the past we got complete, well made, big free games that were entirely on disk because that was the best tech available and if companies wanted us to come back for the next one the whole game had to be spot on from its release. I haven’t yet played GT7 but I adore the previousGT games 1-4 in particular and I’m a stickler for linear games (with enough agency to feel in control) that have proper hard progression systems. I think what we’re (or at least I’m) finding is that games now are either too linear or far too open, lacking balance. My particular gripe if I could narrow it to one point is the abundance of games in this generation which prioritise quantity over quality (I can’t really speak for gt7 as I haven’t played it yet) but your pints seem to make perfect sense. For me the last 2/3 forza titles have been steps backwards, Dying light 2 for me is the worst offender of all (sorry for going off topic a little). Dying light 2 is the complete embodiment of what’s wrong with games today: coma inducing story, massive and pretty but completely copy pasted and lifeless world/ map, rushed physics, buggy as hell, generic badly paced progression which promises agency but is ultimately linear and generic.

[@lukebbuff]

This is the best take I’ve seen on this! As a non competitive player who was mostly here for the fun of offline progression and collecting, nothing they are going to be able to change post launch can save it for me. I’ll still play it because I’m so hungry for GT content and it’s more up my alley than sport (and about equal to 6 with better graphics). But i won’t be returning to it for years as I hoped.

[@Silver_Wolf-141]

even as someone whos never played another gt game, i thought the cafe was a tutorial until it hit me like two hours into the game

[@captainzib]

Making this a live service has ruined the game. I am mad I bought the $90 collectors edition. Make no mistake, I love the actual gameplay, but hate the presentation. The game as a service should have been free to play.

[@Kaceydotme]

That's how I feel about it, too-- hope that came across. It's like they poured dirt on top of a gourmet meal.

[@VeraTheTabbynx]

And with the truly disgusting state of the ingame economy, charging anything for the base game is an insult

[@ReallyRealColby]

$90 well spent, to my mind. The Cafe is a lot more charming and engaging than the career progression in GT6 or Sport ever was. Remember how they literally tacked that on because there was such an uproar? The Cafe blows that out if the water...

[@scuckplexity]

@@VeraTheTabbynx tbf the new in-game economies is already much better than it was before. And with how much money you get from the circuit experience, it's now a lot more rewarding than it uses to be. But yeah they need to up the credit on sport mode and custom races too

[@VeraTheTabbynx]

@@scuckplexity AND vastly up the amount of money buying the microtransactions gets. I'm surprised nobody talks about this, considering the fact the Mclaren F1 is still $185 IRL USD.

[@guilhermegaroto5]

For me the biggest problem with this game is the cafe menu, how this mode takes the player freedom and how the events are in the game, I mean you really need to take out the league system ?

[@ochiamu]

Completely agree. I felt like the cafe was just a tutorial and it was going to end at any time. I was wrong.

[@solitaryclusterofneurons598]

To me the big issue with GT7 is the prize-money-to-car-price ratio. I started the game on the licence tests and won a bunch of cars there, and have almost gone through the entire game with only purchasing a single car at a dealership, yet I never seem to actually be earning money, or at least I'm earning it at a very slow rate. I find myself spending equal-to and sometimes more money on tuning cars for particular events to meet requirements and be competitive than what the payouts offer, and this is even with me being sensible by just using the closest car to the PP target I have instead of wild 'dream builds', and again let me remind you that I've gone through the game with only purchasing a car with my own credits once. It's just a constant grind, and I'm often having to repeat events twice just to be making a profit which gets boring. It's so obvious that they're trying to force players into spending money on microtransactions, and on top of that, the microtransactions are ludicrously expensive in proportion to the price of some of the most expensive cars in the game; the top most expensive cars in the game are worth almost an entire 9-hour's day wages for me, not that pay-2-win should be encouraged anyway. 9 hours of sweat, labour, and exhaustion is apparently worth the same as an imaginary car lmao. It's like their target audience is NFT bros with more money than sense. It's funny and sad. I didn't even have high expectations of GT7 and was almost going to pass on buying it, but brought it under the impression that it was going back to it's roots. Unless Polyphony does a spectacular U-turn, I 100% won't be buying GT8, and I've owned every GT.

[@brawler5760]

The biggest problem with the economy is that you can’t sell your cars…

[@pedrozanon7245]

You know, i think the games does A LOT of fantastic things and i love its look a aesthetic that Polyphony always put. but even as a GT fanatic, yeah, i remember playing sport and being like "woah, sport is so good, GT7 will be the greatest thing ever". And it did kinda...go wrong. Like, it does a lot of things right, but its core main game, as you mentioned, goes against what the series has build on and even its new way of doing is not that fun. My biggest problem is content, i am sorry, game is missing a lot of the carrer progression of the series games and even sport on its latest version. I found that absurd. But i guess i am wrong because updates will adress everything...about stuff that should be day 1. Oh well, i have no doubt the game two years from now will be excellent, guess was my mistaken buying day one, something i never do, but it was GT.

[@marvinlinnarz5856]

For me the Game is already a big Upgrade compared to GT Sport. 1. You can Race against your own Cars 2. Progressive passage of time 3. Weather Changes during the Race 4. Even with Random Cars, the Startformation and Cars are always different. In Sport it was always the same, which took the fun away. Compared to this, Sport felt like one of the most Boring Games i've ever played.

[@urbanizeddreams]

GT Sport is a way better game than GT7 for me. The fact that GT Sport looks visually better and plays better than GT7 makes zero sense. I did comparisons, and some tracks have more detail on GT Sport on PS4 than GT7 on PS5!!! I actually went back to GT Sport on PS4 and sold my copy of GT7 on PS5. I also hated the new physics in GT7 and in cockpit wobble was super annoying.

[@luxerhusku2609]

I don't even play Gran Turismo or any simracers at all, yet I always like watching these kinds of videos about them, especially from Kacey! Keep up the great work!

[@ryobibattery]

Cute Furby

[@revolverocelot3741]

At this point everyone who considers to buy GT7 should wait until its life cycle (content update wise). This dripfeeding of the cars and races drag so much even Sport felt more thought out in its career. Im sure you're able to pick up GT7 for a good price until then.

[@2pacaveli257]

GT5 still the KING 🤴

[@vycanismelodis]

i agree with this. i loved being able to build up in my own way from nothing. didn't like how in gt6 you had to buy a honda fit at the start though at least you had freedom after that. something else which i would say is a more personal problem, is actually something a lot of people have criticised gran turismo for over the years. if you look at the car list of gt7, there are 4 nissan skylines, that being 1 r32, r33 amd r34, as well as a 1970 skyline. gt6 has 10 r32s alone. each one has a similar body but slightly different stats. you get a lower end model, a facelift, a high end, a touring car even. and theres something about that which adds to the immersion of a used car dealership. maybe its just me but i like seeing lots of variants of the same model. gran turismo has always been a celebration of the auto industry, as opposed to forza horizon which is a celebration of car culture (both are great in their own ways). and so seeing base models and facelifts is a part of that industry i'd like to be able to virtually experience? i dont know. i get that it was kind of filler for the numbers game of car lists but i liked it

[@noobsaibot7006]

Playing GT3 and GT4 just shows how inferior GT7 feels. No manufacturer events, no endurance races. Its all about collecting cars not racing. Not to mention how this game forces gt cafe rather than having a proper career!!

[@nottherishov6415]

I didn't even click on the GT cafe after I finished all the menu books

[@mattn.8279]

I feel the same about the "collecting cars not racing" statement. Don't get me wrong, the driving model is great, and I'm having quite a lot of fun racing and driving around, but the entire campaign is doing the menu books, which force you to do races just to collect cars. There's also a book of all the cars you collected and you cannot sell cars (you can only delete them, and only when you have more than 1 of the same car)

[@connoisseuroftigolbitts]

Then the game gets boring cant start a new game No new events No more Tournaments only online races terrible dealerships hope u have unlimited internet access

[@Leo-hwru]

Coming from gt sport, the single player mode is pointless. The single player being forced on the player to progress breaks gt7 for me.

[@cookiescream1993]

I have genuinely loved GT7. It shockingly may be one of my favorite games this year, and that's in spite of the areas where it stumbles. IDK if it's just me, but the amount of content and attention to detail in the racing/weather system is genuinely impressive. I guess it all depends on your thoughts on Cafe; which I absolutely love! Plus it's a much more efficient way to teach newcomers how to race and tune properly (hence the early pacing issues for vets alongside the missions/license objectives taking a lil bit of time to open up).

[@issaicezell390]

I’ve enjoyed it as well, people will whine about any little thing that doesn’t do exactly how a previous game did it.

[@piworower]

how much are they paying you?

[@cookiescream1993]

@@piworower nothing. I genuinely just enjoy the game. I also work remote so it’s perfect when me and a few friends want to get a few races in!

[@javianbrown8627]

I always thought the used car dealership should be cars that other players have sold tbh. It would be like a trade system but not and maybe allow you to sell things to players directly. It's also a way players could help their friends as you can sell a car they want and since it's used the price would be lower.

[@sciath1841]

The cafe that is the main story quest is so boring and repetitive. Can’t believe PD made that the main story quest.

[@philhahn]

I think Sport Mode is exactly a large part of why GT7 now is how it is... They made bank on GT Sport and said screw it to single player focus.

[@beetheimmortal]

All they had to do was quite literally copy+paste GT4's campaign. It's literally that simple.

[@ld9387]

Exactly.

[@zacariascisneros6399]

And repeat the same mistakes as GT4? No, thank you

[@beetheimmortal]

@@zacariascisneros6399 Care to enlighten me about that?

[@zacariascisneros6399]

@@beetheimmortal Main issue GT4 has it's that is unnecessarily long: -Unnecessary long amount of license tests. Not because of difficulty, but because it's unnecessary having 80 TESTS. -5 races per events. Having just 3 was always fine. -AI was braindead since GT4 -Why we had to wait minutes before starting the Mission Races? -Why we had prize cars that were completely useless in the career mode? -The game was inconsistent in difficulty. Hard if you wanted to progress normally, but really easy to cheat, that it was a necessary evil to progress.

[@beetheimmortal]

@@zacariascisneros6399 I actually agree with most of this, however I do have a strong counterpoint: none of these are exclusive to GT4 (except the mission races being a slog). -AI has always been braindead, this is in no way GT4-specific. -License tests have always been an insultingly bad game mechanic, and they only got worse after GT4 in my opinion. -GT5 and later games have an incredible amount of useless cars, GT7 barely has ANY prize cars that are useful in any way. -Inconsistent difficulty is also a thing in every GT game (although I have a good example for it in GT4: the GODDAMN All American Championship, which can still kick my ass to this day, even though my point total isn't worse there than it is in other championships, as I always like to race at least 150-point races). And with that, let me add a critique of my own to GT4: the point system is incredibly dumb and broken. It's not a bad idea on paper, but the implementation is so bad it's insane. Really good cars have really low scores sometimes, and bad cars have really high scores. The point total is also not indicative of a race's actual difficulty in any way, as sometimes you'll find a 200-point race laughably easy, while other times a 50-point race may seem close to impossible. However, that still doesn't change the fact that GT4 (in my opinon) had the best campaign of the series (although GT3 is a strong contender if you like more linear campaigns), and that the series has been constantly and consistently devolving ever since.

[@Liftinglinguist]

This is what happens when online multiplayer and microtransactions are allowed to dictate the terms and framework of game design in general. I'm beyond disappointed in GT7, its poor focus on single player flies directly into the face of what makes GT games so amazing; this is literally how Polyphony and the IP itself got all of its fans, and now they're screwing them over.

[@m.raihanammarfachrezixpplg7898]

I actually wondering if Grid Legends finally can get some attention, since people were hyped more into GT7 and leaving Grid Legends into dust. I heard that Grid Legends seems to be an upgrade from Grid 2019 which makes it much better

[@hawken796]

They should have delayed it a month for it to have sold better tbh

[@lucarioaustin13]

Grid legends is pretty fun tbh I just hate that it causes hard crashes to my Xbox series X

[@m.raihanammarfachrezixpplg7898]

@@hawken796 Maybe a couple of months, since people might still stick into GT7 anyway

[@m.raihanammarfachrezixpplg7898]

@@lucarioaustin13 Ow, that's a bit hurt

[@lucarioaustin13]

@@m.raihanammarfachrezixpplg7898 ?

[@flyingplantwhale545]

All these games drip-feeding content and demanding full payment from start are simply infuriating. Then devs coming on with their BS about how to game will 'grow' into something they envisioned is just pathetic.

[@ld9387]

It's quite sad.

[@unknownperson1050]

This game has honestly been so confusing to me. I genuinely love it, i loved sport, but yet like its put here theres just an overarching feeling of knowing that this isnt the game that i expected. Whether that be despite its claims that its a traditional game, its quite far from it, or things that are just. Shockingly absent. why cant i change a single setting in online lobbies without leaving and making a completely new one?? When we already had theses systems in place in gt sport?? Or things like the performance point system and tuning being unbelievably unbalanced. Stuff like that is what makes me upset about this game.

[@anarkii]

Tried using the code for the capture card but it doesn't seem to work? Not sure if I'm not entering it in the right place or if it's something wrong with the code, just a heads up

[@Kaceydotme]

I’ll let them know about that, sorry. Not sure what’s up.

[@Kaceydotme]

Hey, just spoke with my point of contact. Apparently Amazon deactivated the code & made them change the name for whatever reason. The new code is 10KACEY120 and it will be active in the next six hours according to my contact. Try it again in a bit and let me know if it works!!

[@FlyingPirahna1]

I've been having a really good time with this game. But there's just so much either broken, underdeveloped, or outright rigged for the worse that it can be beyond frustrating and it makes a game that could've been a perfect 10 more like a 7 on a good day.

[@mattalford3932]

lol the age old problem with racing sims, and simcades. can't please everyone. I've been playing gran turismo the whole time gran turismo has existed. all 25 years. it has its flaws, but the devs are listening to the players. and making adjustments to the game in a timely manner.

[@StevenP727]

This is what happens when development teams are rushed to push out a product on a tight deadline with never ending media pushing them to go faster

[@solidwisdom8749]

It’s a very well made game technically. It deserves more credit but the cafe mode being the career mode and micro transactions kinda made it suck for lot of people but for what you pay and if you don’t use micro transaction’s it’s actually kinda worth the money , lot of races. Cars. Online races. It’s full of content. I just hope with the next update they’ll raise the earnings you get in the races and make some adjustments to the career mode and add a good amount of endurance races.

[@RKDxNT3000]

Oh boy. This will be worth the watch (writing before the video drops, will edit after I watch)

[@Funny-qw4qr]

I 100% agree with you regarding Menu Books, it felt like I am being forced. I also thought that they were side quests.

[@LucaEnzo]

new sub here: As a long time player of the GT series i can say youre correct in your assessment of Gran Turismo Theres lots more you could of said like the A.I is the same as its been since the Ps2 days and Polyphonys cynical reveal of their SOPHY system around launch was just to somewhat imply it was in the game. Very shady Also i like how your video isnt a 50 minute essay and it gets to the chase quickly gg

[@apexiw]

i hate the ticket system. and im frustrated in how no ones talk about it so they'll probably never fix it for example people keep saying "rewards are shit is only engine swaps and random stuff" but the "random" stuff you get are also exclusive parts you can't buy on the shop that gives you more hp / less weight etc, even for Gr3 cars for Sports. so even if 2 players build the same car buying every part from the tunning shop. if one player got lucky to get titanium / stage 5 / ultra parts, he will be in a unfair advantage. also on the recent update they also added more engine swaps like the RB26 for the 180sx and BRZ FD engine for the Qs S13, yet locked on ticket system. there should've be a special shop exclusive for those parts that change daily at high price (for example 100k for a swap?) or something for example there's Stage 5 weight reduction, Ultra RPM turbo, titanium parts and obviously the swaps all locked on the roulette only..

[@Kaceydotme]

wait engine swaps are locked behind the fucking roulette system? you've gotta be fucking joking. I assumed the "new engine" things were just replacements instead of having to replace yours to make up for PP loss.

[@flyderay]

@@Kaceydotme yes, and so are many other special customisation options are locked behind the lootbox/roulette system indeed

[@brawler5760]

This is actually unacceptable. I’ve seen this stuff in CarX Drift Racing 2 and I hate it there too.

[@mattsparks3546]

Both forza motorsport and gran turismo peaked with their 4th entries, commonly considered to have gone substantially downhill since. Rather funny, isn't it

[@petrlazar5240]

I think pretty much everybody misunderstood GT Café would be just side content next to proper GT Mode. The pre-release marketing was very... unclear, to put it mildly.

[@TheSpeedfoever]

I haven't played a GT game in a long time man I'm glad to be back in it since reviews are great too I understand your opinion if you didn't like it that's fine man hopefully they can either add DLC and fix stuff so it can be better!

[@ShanesAutos]

We are almost two months into GT7 and truthfully the game feels a little boring now. Once you complete Café all that’s left is to grind money for the used and legendary cars. It’s lacking something, we need things to go back to the way they were as described in this video. We need a proper career mode with race categories ranging from beginner to professional. More cars, tracks etc… I’ve been saying for awhile that GT7 would be an easy game to get right. Take all the best parts of the past games and bring them into the modern era, that’s all, not complicated. The fact that Kaz saw the contestants at Nations Cup playing old games like GT3 should have told him everything he needed to know.

[@bluein_]

Sidenote: GT7 has a roughly 1 to 2 frame buffer to create the better visuals and that is what creates the "smooth" gameplay at the cost of... roughly 1 to 2 frames of input delay that you barely notice for the most part.

[@Kaceydotme]

that’s really interesting, explains a lot.

[@dolbyprologicii]

its called motion blur...

[@bluein_]

@@dolbyprologicii Correct, one of the post processing effects that uses buffering is motion blur, and its been quite popular with the controversial slider in horizon 5 and whatnot, however there are also other composting effects that use buffering (its why DLSS has better frame times with more pre-rendered frames, and it's how SLI works in the first place).

[@bluein_]

TLDR advanced reflections and fullscreen effects also use buffering.

[@NateSakana]

@@dolbyprologicii framebuffer is not the same as motion blur.

[@aggressivelyaverage4428]

I thought exactly the same thing as you did about the Café. It knocked me for a loop at first, and to be honest, I really don't like it. I resorted to purchasing another PS 3 (I sold my old one when I bought my ps 4 in 2014) just so I could play GT 6 again, just to experience the old Gran Turismo gameplay flow.

[@callumdointhings5]

Everything you just said plus the much bigger moral issue I have supporting this game - the always online component - are why I didn't buy it. Spot on Kacey. After watching Digital Foundry's new DF Retro analysis of the progression of all the GT games on the PS2 compared to other racers of the time and being reminded of just how much thought, love and care went into the series with it's weird game modes and features and absurd pushing of technical boundaries, it's a shame to see what it's become. Games as a service and always online single player are things I'll never support

[@Erenzilable]

So it's like GT6 forcing you to buy a Honda Fit, but it's the whole single player campaign and not a first car tutorial then?

[@TallTapper]

it's a good game with the only catchphrase being "it could've been better"

[@perlichtman1562]

Enjoying your review as usual. I just wanted to say that I’m sorry you have to deal with people saying things are clickbait or insisting you not talk about completely legitimate issues. I’ve been playing GT since 1998 (started with a Japanese import and the license tests were not easy when I couldn’t read the directions) and have since purchased 1-6, Sport and 7 as well as multiple GT branded wheels, but honestly my experience with Sony and PD on 7 was so negative that I stopped buying Sony products entirely for a bit. GT7 was the first game from Sony I ever tried to return - and the first game of any kind I ever tried to return since the early to mid-90s. I know you made the choice to avoid getting mired in microtransaction discussions and I totally respect that, but between their handling of that, the always online requirement and refusual to let players refund the game (I talked to a lot of their people over the phone) over the changes, outages, etc. it just really made it hard to feel good about playing the game. 25 years was a long time to really like a series - I hope they can course correct and make me want to come back again one day. In the meantime, I can still enjoy your review. Your racing games playlist was great for lifting my spirits as a podcast when I listened to it on drives to and from the doctor to follow-up on a recent surgery. Keep up the great stuff and I hope you’re doing great with self-care. :)

[@ssportugal]

GT7 felt, to me, like a gt sport expansion, I was expecting a GT4 like game with upgrades obviously

[@slimypickle19]

Online updates/microtransactions have become the ultimate excuse for game developers to release unfinished & uncompleted games every year, & polyphony digital has proven no different. There is no excuse for a game that took nearly a decade to release after 6 to have as little content as it does. Who's to say that the cars we're still waiting on in the legends & used car dealership aren't just unreleased free dlc that they haven't gotten programmed yet?

[@barebarekun161]

Despite all that you've shown I'm still getting the game used. It still a solid game that worth my time and I knew it will. Doesn't mean I won't condemn all the flaws presented but they still deserve support needed for true next gen sequel.

[@Kaceydotme]

Enjoy the game! There’s still fun to be had. I’m still playing the game. I wish it was a lot better, but you’re right: I don’t want my gripes to be the end of the series.

[@garethwillis]

To be fair I agreed with everything you said. For me the most obnoxious part of GT7 is the way they try to pressurise you into spending money by shafting you on roulette, shafting you on earnings and then giving you invitations to buy multi million dollar cars which are on a timed basis and you cant afford. Although not to worry, you can spend real money on GT coins.....It's so obviously been geared towards getting you to spend more that I find it extremely offensive and obnoxious, I would never have expected that approach from polyphony. It feels like the love for Motorsport has vanished while being replaced by a love for higher profit margins. The soul is definitely missing from GT7. As far as the cafe is concerned, they should have treat it like a literal cafe where you could take a car your passionate about and essentially attend a coffee and cars where you could meet other people in game with their car, speaking over the mic through a proximity based system. Being able to chat or challenge people to races from the cafe would have been fun too but they really didn't think about it it feels like.

[@anthonyku017]

The patches are slowly fixing the game tbh

[@decl_n]

heya! great video, was just wondering what the song is @ 3:53

[@scottn7cy]

I don't agree with everything you said but this is a well thought out and objective analysis. I like GT7 but I'm disappointed in what it delivered. My biggest disappointment is the AI. We were promised this amazing learning AI (or that's how they made it sound). In reality the AI is slightly better than GTS but it is still fairly stupid. With the always on DRM I foolishly thought maybe they'd be doing something interesting like AI run in the cloud that would learn from what I did with it. Nope.

[@somat111]

That AI was never promised to be in the game at release, if at all. It's still very much a work in progress.

[@scottn7cy]

@@somat111 It was not promised explicitly but much was implied. All I can see the AI learned in the game now is brake checking, blocking, and dive bombing. Don't get me wrong as I do enjoy the game. I'm just disappointed.

[@DavidRSAT]

@@somat111 A work in progress? They've had AI since GT1, no excuses.

[@somat111]

@@DavidRSAT We're talking about the unbeatable SOPHY AI that needs to be trained per track, not the regular AI.

[@brawler5760]

The nemesis system in Grid 2019 and Legends does the AI more justice…

[@MichaelVincentGChua]

Utter disappointment, no offline enabled unlike GT6. Meaning that Gran Trashismo 7 is just a mere demo racing game when support expired.

[@jimmy3people0]

the newest GT I've played is 4, and more and more, I feel like I've made the right decision to stick with it. the seventh generation and its introduction of microtransactions and forced online connectivity was a massive blow to the gaming industry. games should've stayed single-player and self-contained by default.

[@dncewzrd]

Song at 3:53?

[@acropophia8857]

same, i cant find it

[@alejandrogorgal]

Great editing as always, and loved the use of Ace Combat 3's soundtrack.

[@iwasbored...1872]

Guess I did not hear it.

[@Kownterfiet1997]

if there's anything I noticed from the Gran Turismo series is that they rush a 1st game on a new Playstation console and fix and improve in the second, example: GT1 and GT2 were both on the ps1, GT3 and GT4 were on the ps2, GT5 and GT6 were in the ps3 (correct me if GT6 was on ps4 or not) and maybe GT7 could be improved on GT8 (if they're ever looking on making and sequel to GT7), the big thing I looked forward to in GT7 was different racing type's, when Kaz made the 1st game he wanted to add different racing type's like Rally, Drag racing, even Derby and Banger racing but due to low storage he couldn't, in GT2 they had to rush the game and didn't have enough time to, and GT3 they abandoned that idea. I got really exited and nostalgic while playing the menu books but maybe just MAYBE they'll forget the menu book idea (in my opinion I hope they will).

[@BillehBobJoe]

Hear me out, gran turismo peaked at gt4, and not for the obvious reason As gran turismo gets more realistic. The *game* we play gets worse.

[@GoatedAtNFS]

the foundation is there but there is more problems and gaps compared to what was in GTS. and I think of the impatience and pressure by Sony, the game will eventually collapse on the outside, but grow to the hardcore fans on the inside. another thing is, (again), the game isn’t complete. not even close

[@ReapMcMuffins]

Oh man that makes me sad knowing the game holds your hand this way. Recently I've been replaying GT2 with the Plus mod as I was in this racing mood, and just experiencing the freedom and dealing with bad car investments is just a core fun thing.

[@darknez09240]

the most hated things that makes me don't really want to play GT7 is the handling right not, i really loved the balance under and oversteer handling of GT5, GT6 then GT sport changed it up a bit, but still acceptable, but GT7 handling is just pure garbage even after the rear wheel drive car handling patch, they still feels like spinning everytime with no confidence to turn properly