Can ANY Glue beat the Non-stick Pan?

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[@MLeoDaalder]

Have you tried baking an egg in it? That should stick to any pan if you let it burn a bit. XD

[@BerylLx]

Oooooh.... A new type of bioadhesive? You gotta get on that concept right now~

[@Zanroff]

My dad glued a plate back together and put in the dishwasher. The food stayed on, but the glue did not.

[@jamiew6326]

Right?!? That was the first thing I thought of. That crap isn’t just going to “peel” up 🍳

[@deinemudda9496]

😂 10000%

[@redplanet76]

😂

[@Hasmanian]

Mad respect, Nate, not just for not repeating what you've done before but for being willing to point people to TKOR to watch the old videos.

[@bidlybid5144]

I come in the comment just for that comment 🤓🫡🫡🫡

[@arlynnecumberbatch1056]

Hes still telling people to go to tkor even though hes no longer a part of the channel, what a madlad

[@montyvr6772]

What the frick is tkor

[@sdji1239]

@@montyvr6772 the king of random it was an amazing channel especcially when it was the original guy then it went to nate then he had a partner than there was some new guys and nate left and tkor got old after that but the old videos perfect exploding darts ftw

[@dvsur]

TKIR

[@garethbaus5471]

​​@@montyvr6772 The King of Random. It used to be one of the best KZbin channels, and Nate used to be a host for it after the original host/owner retired and then almost immediately died.

[@Crazyclay78YT]

even though they fired him then fell off hard

[@IcedForce]

All of the glues have "holding" time and then the curing time. The marketed time is most often holding time, so the thing is held but the glue is pretty far away from being cured. For example the Liquid Nails Projects Construction Adhesive (solvent based) has 10 minutes working time and will hold 250psi shear strength after 24 hours, but that shear strength will go up to 400 psi in 7 days. CA glues often hold after seconds but most of them take 24 hours to cure and CA gels up to 48 hours. The 3M 5200 has curing rate of 3mm/24h but that depends on the surface area in touch with air. Gorilla glue has 60 minute holding time and it should be dry after 24 hours but it's PU glue so the polymer strengthens still after dry and maximum strength is often reached after 48 hours. Then you have something like Sikaflex which will hold after couple of hours and has curing rate of ~3.5mm/24h but the final strength is gained after a month of applying.

[@janmcclure6239]

I think you need to do this again with more curing time

[@HeinzizBaKeD]

he doesn't have lots of time to waste when he is pushing out multiple low-effort videos every week. Such a shame.

[@haleyw5677]

@@HeinzizBaKeDwhat? He doesn’t even post once a every week. What are you on about?

[@PM-wt3ye]

You really think this made a difference? Any tested glue needs to be ~5-10x stronger to even call it a bond

[@senatorsmiles]

@@PM-wt3ye I think it should be fair to say all the glues should be fully cured to call it a good test. Some of the adhesives he used won't be close to fully cured in 24 hours.

[@Qermaq]

This was great. If you do this again, you could hook up a scale to the little thingies and see how much force it takes to rip them off.

[@EmilyGOODEN0UGH]

Or put the pan upside down on a couple saw horses and add hanging weights. Something to quantify and rank the glues with.

[@TGFMusic]

So, I’m a polymer chemist for 3M; there are two things going on here it appears: one, PTFE (Teflon is a brand name) has one of the lowest commercial grade surface tensions, which is why it’s so hard for things to stick to it, this also appears to have texture to it, so you have both chemical and physical release properties, which is extremely hard for an adhesive to stick to. The 8010 was a really good choice, but I’m not surprised it didn’t make a stronger bond because of the physical part. I think the rest of the options didn’t surprise me as well, especially the silicone caulk as silicone is the next best option for low surface energy that doesn’t contain a fluorocarbon group.

[@10Exahertz]

wait does the 3M one contain florocarbons? is that why it looks like toothpaste?

[@UNICORN69HO]

Why? your work is pointless trying to coexist with sika.

[@MartKencuda]

@@UNICORN69HO What?

[@savagesarethebest7251]

Since you are the expert here, can you explain how glue works or is it still a mystery? 🤣

[@robinbeech7703]

I have used most of these in the past. The 3m is by far the best, in my opinion. That being said. I worked on a home for one of the top people at 3m and never got paid my final. The contractor or rather person playing contractor flat ripped me off. Destroyed my business and my family. I even left the Island that I called home for 45 years. So there is that. If I wouldn't have been fighting threw a divorce I would have had my day in Cort. All that aside. 3M IS good company. If I had it to do over I would have put TB the contractor in prison. I found out he was altering my invoices and contract in order to stay under budget. With no regard to my life or my family.

[@aaroncampbell113]

I would've liked to have seen a force gauge or some comparative measuring device used.

[@realpumpkinsmasho]

I was thinking the same thing!

[@cardboardmonster775]

By any chance, are you a fan of Project Farm?

[@LexiK0688]

Same instead of him pressing his hand down and adding weight to it

[@5stringaustin]

Why would you use these 3d printed pieces with a perfect little loop on top and not use a little hanging scale to measure the force needed to pull them off.

[@BrowniePembroke]

this is more at-home science than the very strict lab science you would see on channels like tkor, even then i dont think they used a force gauge in the original tkor video

[@DaveTexas]

This is a really cool idea for a test! Non-stick pans drive me crazy since most aren’t truly non-stick. I love cooking eggs and make omelets quite often, and it took years to find a pan that is as close to non-stick as possible. Even it isn’t perfect, but I can usually get an omelet to slide right out of the pan. It’s an "Original Green Pan." I make sure to never overheat it, because overheating seems to be the kryptonite that destroys any non-stick pan. Cooking eggs over lower heat allows better control over how the eggs come out, anyway. Overcooked eggs aren’t great.

[@metallicaman0258]

Volvo had an anaerobic sealant that they use in their 3.2 inline 6 camshaft covers when doing a head gasket job. You should find a specific anaerobic glue to use. That's a glue that sets up in an oxygen free environment so it would set up the reverse of what the liquid nails did, hard in the center, gooey on the outside.

[@K-16]

I want to imagine Calli asking Nate to return her pan, thinking she lent it to him for cooking purposes.

[@walterbwd]

9:11 fun fact, i use e6000 glue for everything i plain on removing in some amount of time, it holds things good but if you pull it will come apart and you can get it off of everything

[@RobLS87]

3M™ Structural Adhesive SA9844 or similar automotive bonding like SikaPower. A rattle can consumer adhesive is 3M High-Strength 90 which I've used to bond material to teflon strips.

[@hewhoisRondo]

You missed a real trick here for ALL of these: hooking up a scale or force-gauge to see how hard it is to pull away to have a scientific data-set

[@dbsagacious]

Try using loctite 770 with any good superglue. The 770 is a primer that helps the superglue adhere

[@ronmckickass5714]

Make an entire video on how this affects different glues in each way.

[@Zaviex]

It’s not going to work. The Teflon needs to be eaten away or there’s nothing to bond to

[@rolfbjorn9937]

The missing ingredient is a primer activator for low surface energy polymers. Look up Permabond.

[@TKC_]

This is true. The primers replace the florine atoms in the surface with something that is easier to bond to.

[@CheeseMiser]

Ah yes. Like in the JB Weld video that you completely ignored

[@Zaviex]

He already did this

[@_Helgie]

@@CheeseMiser There are 2 TKOR videos linked in the description, one includes JB Weld *clear epoxy* not regular JB Weld, and neither includes an activator. I searched the TKOR channel and can't find this video that supposedly exists. Got a link?

[@stephenoliveau]

From my experience in construction... dry and cure times are based on how quickly you can/have work around/with it. most will not fully cure for a VERY long time.

[@RyanMercer]

Not an idea I'd have thought of 😂

[@bagnon]

Always a good day when Nate good man posts.

[@helloiamapersonandyouare2]

glad you're keeping up the tkor legacy B)

[@johnross6805]

How about a comparison showing those same glues on a stainless steel or cast iron pan? Would be interesting to see how well the glues bond to those also.

[@Shawn-c2i]

Or against the diff types of non stick surfaces on them too

[@tocov]

Here's an idea for creators - instead of making a container for resin pours - you could use a nonstick pan to pour resin into.

[@SladeWeston]

As someone who makes resin dice, I just use reusable silicone mixing cups. They cost like $1 off wish, are just as non-stick as that pan, and come in lots of handy sizes, with measuring lines and pour spouts.

[@soundspark]

@@SladeWeston And being flexible you can flex them to release the resin.

[@Flying0Dismount]

I have an industrial Teflon adhesive in the lab at work and it's a 4 step process of mechanical cleaning, chemical etch, prime and finally a two-part adhesive...

[@dervwfahrer]

It sounds more like "First destroying the Teflon Layer and then Stick something on it"

[@oliverer3]

​@@dervwfahrerMore intended for when you have an entire PTFE part rather than just a coating.

[@Flying0Dismount]

@dervwfahrer No, this can glue solid blocks of Teflon together... It basically works by both creating a rough surface for mechanical keying of the adhesive, but also a primer treatment that activates the surface and allows the glue to actually form bonds vs just relying on mechanical keying.. It's not meant to bond things to frying pans and I was just pointing out that there is a product designed specifically to bond teflon. If you were to try it on a frying pan and were careful enough to not etch right through the coating, and prep'ed everything right, I have a feeling that it would peel the coating off the metal of the pan...

[@senmetwo42]

11:23 this animated excitement reminds me of old mythbusters when Adam would be similarly excited about finding out results of an experiment Love your channel, love your energy, and love you. Happy holidays Nate ❤️

[@kurtlindner]

I'm really glad we didn't have to wait for another video just to see the Marine Adhesive.

[@_pitaph_6392]

That JB Weld with the light is amazing. It's the best and most convenient superglue I've used.

[@tophlaw4274]

👏fun little experiment as always Nate, though 🤔I wish you used a rig like a tripod w/ a pully on top that has a line holding some weights you can add to so the bonding strength can be quantified... anyway, looking forward to your next experiment!

[@MissMyah37]

Retry it! 8:28 make it a short if you’re able?

[@matstermind]

Should've Used a luggage scale to compare how many pounds of force it takes to break it off

[@jaimevillegas8148]

Thank you for this video. I've stayed up countless nights wondering if marine adheasant sealant would stick to a non-stick pan. Now I may rest.

[@YTsucks300]

Whaaaaaat??!! Heck yeah! Graza is AMAZING!

[@superpaul79]

Try it with cement. The quick drying cement.

[@JennTN411]

I love this entire video, including the ad! 😊

[@punktkomma9489]

3M PX5000 series, have fun Essentially you want industrial grade glue made for materials with low surface energy, most commonly plastics. Make sure to use a specialised plastic bonding agent

[@TheTechAdmin]

As always, great videos Nate! 😃😁

[@thatunknownguy2680]

I'm big into car audio. My go-to adhesive for bonding wood to the inside of my roof is PL 8X or PL MAX. You can get them from The Home Depot. The reason I use PL 8X/PL MAX is because it bonds anything to anything. It gets hard like a plastic/concrete mix. Once it cures, you cannot remove it. You'd have to cut the roof out to get it out. Lol

[@Tincoco_]

I love that you’ve found your own flow after TKOR. Must be nice being able to pay yourself 😂😂

[@mawns]

You should compare each test to how it would react on a flat surface, such as glass or ceramic with enamel.

[@morganfern29]

Am I having déjà vu? Or did you just upload this yesterday? I swear I’ve seen this yesterday.

[@balor4356]

Cause he did 😂

[@tobysstory4013]

Great video always love your uploads

[@MrMattMohler]

Project Farm appreciates your efforts.

[@TheSkogemann]

Gotta say, you really pulled it off in this video Nate!

[@ShaneT5S]

Glue peels off so easily, but yet eggs will hold on as if the entire world depends on it

[@angusmctwangstick4079]

The Teflon website says this: "Myth: If a nonstick surface is scratched, it should be thrown away. Fact: Scratches do not affect performance." I think this should be tested with the glues.

[@mortimerwright4826]

That olive oil is genuinely really good I found it at a local co-op it's awesome on salads focaccia bread and even cheese

[@TheMassive_0]

Definitely a very good advertising for that frying pan.

[@chadd990]

"smells kind of like super glue" This is why my kindergarten teacher had to stop letting us do arts and crafts unsupervised.

[@JunkyardBashSteve]

Teflon is wild stuff. Never forget it was created for missile construction. It's literally military-grade nonstick.

[@grumpydezgaming7941]

You should have totally used a hanging scale, really get down in the bones of what glue is better. lol love ya nate

[@Sir_Leelord]

There is an Aerospace Adhesive that is like 500 bucks a tube that's used on commercial planes...super strong stuff. Also, those 3m tapes you have to pull down to remove off walls would be interesting....they're called 3m command brand wall mount tape. very strong.

[@danb.709]

That olive oil in a can looks great, everyone will just think I'm drinking beer.

[@lozeldatkm]

I expected you to pull them off with a crane scale, so we could get actual numbers and data. oh well, maybe next time?

[@GaOutlawVinyl]

I don't consider this a failure of the glue but a success of the pan.

[@pentadeuce1086]

So here's a couple of options: One is a cornstarch glue that is baked onto the pan itself. The second option is PTFE thread sealant. It's a solvent based liquid teflon and should weld to the nonstick coating.

[@alanphipps]

We should try that one again

[@mumblez22]

What about tile/flooring glue? I've seen that stuff stick to smooth surfaces but not particularly non stick

[@mumblez22]

It's like a cream color. I've seen carpet guys use it and I've used it to lay linoleum a few times.

[@ljawkward986]

The chokehold I wish this man had on me is unreal

[@EmilyGOODEN0UGH]

Hoof Grip Pro glue... it's made for cows hooves.

[@kzookid2051]

Um...cow hooves are extremely non-non-stick.

[@BrianXM177]

Melt a whole glue stick on it and see what happens!

[@fireandcopper]

Legally distinct adhesives not used on the TKOR channel, presumably by an amicable agreement

[@7-ten]

What about some 3M duct tape or some T-Rex tape?

[@Werdna12345]

I like the tape idea

[@TheTechAdmin]

4:38 Everytime I see a new type of Olive Oil, I get worried that I might have to remove a zero from a vacation expense. #OliveOilFamilyMoneyFTW

[@Cats-TM]

My family bought it once, it is not very good. The "drizzle" one is Incredibly bitter. And the other one is just kind of fine.

[@blargcoster]

​@Cats-TM I'm not surprised, judging from the "Corporate Memphis" style art on the bottles. I'm willing to bet the bitter taste is from either adulterated oil, oxidized oil (it just got really old), or the plastic bottles. Also, those cans will have a plastic liner inside them, so no getting away from the plastic.

[@KillerRage360]

We have this stuff in the automotive world called 3 bond. Works very well. Might give that a shot?

[@ericksoler1221]

The fact that super glue cant stick to these pans but my slightly over cooked rice never comes off is baffling

[@BacchiosCorax]

Next time try a well seasoned cast iron pan. Or not, since a regular non-stick pan couldn't be defeated, it would be unexpected for a cast iron pan to be defeated.

[@WaxedMerkin]

2 things that might work, the glue they use to hold modern windscreens in place, and seam sealant its used to help bond panels in the building and repairs of cars

[@fourwheeljeeper7941]

5200 is a life long bond, give it time and it will seal.

[@brendakrieger7000]

Fascinating idea🍳

[@Theloss52]

You should try 3M professional construction adhesive, I have a classic red tube of the stuff, made for permanently glueing anything to anything. I glued solar panels to the roof of my RV with it. I think their Multi purpose adhesive is the closest comparison available now as the one I have no longer seems to be sold.

[@Rynsey]

W sponsor I have both they're so good!

[@drgnflms7]

Okay, give "WeldWood Contact Cement" a go on this pan!!!

[@Srvrdown57]

Not sure what’s going on in your personal life, none of my business, but brother, you look tired, make sure you’re taking care of yourself, we all love you. Make sure Nate is taking care of Nate

[@wallyk2334]

Would love to see you use a force gauge to see exact amount required to remove.

[@brockbender6655]

I’d try a 3m or Fusor automotive metal bonding adhesive. I’ve used it a lot in the automotive industry and on various materials with very good results.

[@yinglish119]

The way to beat the Teflon is a metal specula.

[@HYEpower]

You gave me a idea to make a acid glue.... mixture that will burn the layer its applied to then sets hard from the glue mixed in as the acid evaporates. Made to glue materials none stick by damaging the surface layer allowing glue penetration and adherence

[@rcaddict2.0]

Hey Nate , I would love to see you mix and test the top homemade glues.

[@jasonficcone2605]

Should have used a digital force gauge. I think a lot of your viewers would have been interested in what the actual pulling force required for each glue was. Maybe something for the next video.

[@eliemaherxo]

You should try the glue that competitors use/spread all over their hands & arms in World’s Strongest Man for extra grip when lifting the boulders!

[@keabard2011]

3m automotive adhesive. They also make a double sided tape.

[@vizzair]

know what we call "no more nails" in the trade, -- "No more shelves". glue with this and they are on the floor next day

[@Hobypyrocom]

great video as always, but the gain of your mic is probably too high and there is some clipping...

[@phillipauberzinsky7807]

You should try 3M windo-weld it is used to hold windshields into cars. We use it in our shop for anything we never want to come apart again.

[@tylergenepinson9186]

Maybe for a follow up you could try and heat the pan to frying temps and let it “cook” for a few minutes then let it cool and try those glues again and see if heat causes any of the glues to stick better

[@TomtEllis]

Hondabond or contact cement should work very well on that surface.

[@Vexic929]

I'd love to see you try some skin-safe adhesives that need to be removed with their specific remover like liquid latex or liquid bandage

[@InvadersDie]

There is an adhesive called "steel" (I think that's what it's called) and it is really really super sticky with things like a metal pan. You basically just heat it up to really high temperatures as you apply it, normally using electricity. You should try it, it could possibly work I think.

[@rick516104]

Use whatever they use to adhere the Teflon to the metal pan 😆

[@1kreature]

CA glue with low-surface-energy plastic activator applied first may be your only choice if the pan is teflon coated.

[@Mike__B]

I mean there's a reason why they're called low energy plastics.

[@japowey8958]

yo it’s nate from the internet!

[@chitreshtiwari7793]

You should definitely try Aluminium Epoxy !

[@621ELECTRONICS]

Interesting test. I think I would have given them a couple weeks, or even a month to cure just to remove that as an issue. Maybe even try 3M windo-weld urethane for gluing in car windshields.

[@zippythinginvention]

Conspicuous absence of hot-glue and RTV

[@SamTheBattleshipp]

How about a two part epoxy resin? Would be interesting to see if the pan can be like a silicone mold.

[@Tarrandus]

If you do this again, would be good to have something that can measure the amount of force you are lifting with, and put some actual numbers to each adhesive.

[@gigithebird2151]

Use the belzona cold weld adhesive

[@moth.monster]

That's what Teflon is for. It just doesn't stick to stuff!

[@savagesarethebest7251]

Well, somehow they glued the non-stick coating to the pan itself. so I'd guess that somehow you could get something to stick to it.

[@robtpc]

You should try the uv resin with more transparent type of filament in the 3d print so the uv can get to it

[@voltare2amstereo]

What do they use to stick the non stick coating on with. Use that