NHS crisis: GPs in Scotland quitting due to ‘unsafe situation’

While the crisis in hospital A&E departments has been dominating recent headlines, the situation in GPs surgeries may be just as less urgent.
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We're in Scotland where we have spoken to two GPs who have quit the same medical practice on the outskirts of Edinburgh because they say patient numbers are "untenable". And they tell us they're worried they cannot provide a "safe" service.
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[@JugglinJellyTake01]

20 years ago I used to be able to walk in to a GPs practice and be seen that morning. 10 years ago I had to book an appointment for the next day. 3 years ago I'd wait in a call queue, was given my position in the queue and would be given an appointment for a few days time. My last appointment it took 69 calls to get through to a GP to get an appointment for the following week. My call was dropped within about 5 seconds and I had to keep redialing to get through. Not even an automated queue position was offered.

[@mydogeatspuke]

I can't even book a 5 minute routine nurse appointment 4 weeks in advance anymore. There are no GP appointments at my surgery, ever, and it's one of roughly 12 in a group that share the workload of the district. They work in practice in the morning and do phone calls in the afternoon. Some of it's down to people calling for a GP rather than speaking to a pharmacist, others don't have the common sense to rest and drink fluids, and of course the growing elderly population uses up a lot of resources. Social care is no better, councils are honestly useless. Birth rates are down but the population keeps growing thanks to uncontrolled immigration. Everything is a nightmare.

[@loadapish]

I cant get an appointment atall. Tgey arnt making them

[@xv179]

Thank the tories for underfunding the NHS

[@mydogeatspuke]

@@xv179 not a thing that happened. The NHS is better funded than it ever has been. The issue is how those funds are allocated.

[@fatpinkteddy]

Agree it’s shocking that’s why do many people die of stuff coz they can’t see their gp. They wonder why people use out of hours and a and e coz you can’t see a doctor now.

[@madinp1177]

This made me emotional to watch. The general public will never understand the toll this type of job can take on you. Doctors are truly a special breed. The knowledge, skill and straight-up BRAVERY required of them to keep their head above water and do the best for their patients in the current climate is just insane. The great British public truly does not understand the sheer level of responsibility required from these professionals every day and the potential cost of a single mistake. All they care about is why haven't they had THEIR appointment yet. Absolutely no comprehension of how oversubscribed every single GP is or how complex their job is. Worse still, many claim that compensation for doctors in this country is fair because it's "above average" - as if this is anywhere near an average difficulty job! Is it any wonder people are jumping ship for better working conditions abroad?

[@DivertissementMonas1664]

Have you been sleeping for almost three years?

[@absb2401]

Well said

[@thesaltbaron5733]

@@DivertissementMonas1664 no but someone has been sleeping since birth it would seem

[@muckraker7942]

Right because people cleaning hotel rooms wouldn’t understand what these GP have to go through. Oh the horror. Or anyone else with a private sector job. Government workers sure love to complain. Just quit!!!! Quit please and shut up! Thank you! Then maybe something could actually get done.

[@childoftheuniverse2644]

@@Seriouslyseen , your ancestors invaded half of the world and now you have to pay the price.

[@neavius]

That’s completely awful 4000 patients for 1 Doctor ….beyond shocked…poor doctors 😢

[@tuffitout2568]

A very dysfunctional government just may be the culprit. 🤷‍♂🧐

[@Robert-cu9bm]

They get paid well for it.

[@ba-gg6jo]

My surgery has 11,000 patients and 4 GPs on 3-day weeks. If it wasn't for the nurse practitioners the place would collapse. GPs £110K a year.

[@whackeryounis]

@@ba-gg6jo 1) starting salary for a fully qualified GP (5 years post medical school) is around 50k. 2) If your GPs aren't working 5-6 days a week, they're not on 110k. 3) That 110k figure is the top top end of a GP, at least 10 years post med school and likely in and around London where you get paid a bit more and they'd have to be working MINIMUM full time to do that. 4) No news segment or 1hr documentary will show exactly what it takes to do the job. People are quick to dismiss stress. The one thing that video showed is the constant feeling in the back of the mind that we've missed something that could ultimately harm the patient. But now they have to battle that feeling plus suddenly see double the amount of patients. A 10mins appointment doesn't just take up 10mins of the GPs day. They have to write up everything that was discussed in the appointment. Sign off any prescriptions. Send off for referrals, tests etc. Anytime a patient has been referred to a specialist, when discharged there will be a letter sent back to the GP with instructions of whats been done and what the GP needs to follow up on, keep an eye on, prescribe etc. Then at some point during the day, they'll get to go through any tests requested, interpret them and come up with an appropriate plan. The point is 1 patient can take up 10mins face to face time but easily 20mins additional cumulative minuets dealing with everything the patient doesn't see. This is why a GP isn't easily available. People always bring up the minority high figure salary and attach it to GPs barely working etc. Has it ever occurred to you that if the job really paid that much for little work, then why are they struggling to recruit? Why are so many GPs leaving? Working a few days a week and taking home 6 figures sounds like an attractive job to me🤦🏽‍♂️

[@ba-gg6jo]

@@whackeryounis well that is what it says on their website, no mention of pro rata, which you would think might be mentioned

[@jazzragu]

Top GCSEs, smashing difficult A levels, 5 years at university, 2 years foundation training, another 3 to 7 years specialising. Plus paying and completing Certificates, Diplomas and Masters programs. Constant Continuing Professional Development and reading to keep up to date. And that’s when things are going OK. And what to speak about indemnity costs, fear of mistakes or vexatious complaints, feeling unable to provide the care that people need. ❤ for people who choose this life!

[@HappyAwesomePower]

@BoomBoomTopG compassionate good human being care. Unlike someone as destitute and lacking in anything decent as you.

[@tezinho81]

@BoomBoomTopG don't expect any sympathy when your mum dies then

[@justadude8369]

@@Seriouslyseen lol when you cant get a GP appointment maybe you will

[@HappyAwesomePower]

@BoomBoomTopG I mean at least you’re not hiding your rampant unabashed disgusting racism

[@Andrew-rc3vh]

De-woke it then. Simplify the system. Ask a mathematician. A long complicated equation can often be expressed in a much simpler form. It's the same with management: a long complicated process can be cancelled down to the easiest way.

[@lucylocket5262]

GPs in the UK have 10 mins per one patient. This includes admin. How on Earth this could be safe?

[@Bringon-dw8dx]

That even includes the walk from the waiting room to the room/the time it takes them to pick up the phone- which if they are elderly could be 1/10 of the time. It also includes looking through their medical history so you know about the patient. Includes documentation, sending referrals. Even worse there will be trainees that have to check in every few patients with the GP inbetween their patients

[@morrisonnewton236]

Hello Lucy I see happiness all around you, can I please share from it ❤?

[@justadude8369]

in Europe they get double that!

[@aamirh3567]

i've rarely been in the doctor's room for 10 mins, they usually only hear one issue you have even if its minor

[@Bringon-dw8dx]

@@aamirh3567 if you were IN the room for 10 minutes you’ve gone WAY over your allotted time. 10 minutes includes them looking through your history, making any referrals, writing prescriptions, documenting the consultation and even the walk to the clinic room is included as part of the 10 minutes. And of course only 1 issue can be dealt with in that time! 7ish minutes (maybe less depending on the paperwork that will be involved) is not enough time to do anything complicated, let alone 2 ailments. (And that’s all assuming 10mins is booked out for you, I’ve seen GP schedules where all the slots are double booked)

[@anonymous1821a]

the most dreadful mistake is to have a health secretary who is not a good doctor himself, you need a doctor who is knowledgeable about medicine, who has studied in a proper and renowned university and know his job, ensure that you equip in terms of good qualifications the nurses too and obvs increase the recruitment in reference to them, and then you will see an entirely different scenario at the health sector.

[@halfbakedproductions7887]

This is called a technocracy and other countries have it. Finance Minister is a banker or economist, Health Minister is some kind of doctor (even if just a university medical professor) or maybe a very senior nurse, Sports Minister competed in the Olympics, Justice Minister is a lawyer etc. In the UK it's only professional managers and people who have sniffed the right holes that get to the top.

[@Kiltoonie]

Doctors make terrible politicians: don't ask me why, it is simply an observation.

[@julien1]

years ago the consultants ran the hospitals. then they brought in managers. this is not a new argument it has been going on for years.

[@oldmate99]

Boo hoo cry me a river

[@MeiinUK]

@@halfbakedproductions7887 : It's not supposed to be this way. I.e. technocrats. Cos now... It means that... We have a top heavy situation. Finance ministers get a good pension. Economists get a good education pension. They have double pensions. And they look over immigrants and migrants alike trying to keep them barely alive ? What is this ?....

[@gabsie7224]

We have had the pandemic here in Italy, our hospitals have longer waiting times, but we do not have to wait 10 hours for an ambulance. The pandemic has become the excuse for everything.

[@myshamysha1756]

absolutely right in italy doctors have the will to work here these GPs are just parasites. In Italy your medico di base=gp is fixed, they know your medical history, here in Uk you don't have a fixed gp and they do not know anything about the patient and here complaining about work load all they want is pay rise

[@gabsie7224]

@@myshamysha1756 mine was not a criticism of the Gps in the UK as I have no experience of that. I just found it strange for that politician to justify delays which might be caused by a lack of staff caused by unsufficient pay, idk, with the pandemic. I think it is more a structural issue and should be faced as such. Italy is no health service heaven and sometimes you have to wait a lot to see an er doctor, but not that long. That's all.

[@myshamysha1756]

@@gabsie7224 i have live 20 years in Italy from 5 years living in the Uk, so far what i can tell is Italy health system is far better, some appointment waiting times are long but basic services are much more organised by which i mean the ambulance service and the gps. Here gps don't know anything about you each time you hav eto explain from zero and they want you to limit yourself to one problem per appointment.

[@Betty-wt3sw]

Yep

[@teacherella1338]

@Gabsie 72: Same in Germany!

[@jaileen674]

6:16 the way she said ‘were tired’ i felt that 😢

[@Betty-wt3sw]

Yeah try telling that to people who can’t get a doctors appointment or get to see a nurse in A and E

[@hammaadurrehman1459]

Im a dentist that worked under the NHS for 4 years until i finally broke. I had a list of 3000 patients and routinely seeing 30 to 40 patients a day. Trying to understand the patients concerns, doing the correct investigations, diagnosing, treatment planning, discussing the findings, risks, alternatives and costs….then writing everything down…..its way tooo much. And the GPs have it even tougher, more patients, less time. Its so sad to see.

[@Kiltoonie]

OK: you had 3,000 patients, and every day you saw 1% of them. On average, each patient attended the surgery for 3 days a year. Gosh, they must have had really rotten teeth!

[@bobduato8995]

@@Kiltoonie brilliant logic big fella 👏🏾 1 + 1 is 3 as well. Back to school dummy

[@shmm1487]

as a dentist considering moving to Britain, I am strongly discouraged after watching this video and reading your comment.

[@hmmmmm2634]

@@Kiltoonie And thankfully people with zero intellect and understanding like you are the minority!

[@myshamysha1756]

but they don't do anyhing you as a dentist were doing something, gp are good for nothing

[@kirishima638]

Too many people take the NHS for granted. They’ll miss it when it’s gone, just like NHS dentistry.

[@SandraMurray-cd7tb]

Dentists only want private patients now, in Scotland, sadly.

[@mydogeatspuke]

@@SandraMurray-cd7tb same in England. Can't miss something you've never had access to lol

[@tommytomtom3139]

@@SandraMurray-cd7tb Same down here. I'm in the South East.. Haven't been able to get a dentist to take me on in 4 years.

[@billybob3279]

UK with all that wealth flowing around and can't even fund nhs properly. But somehow there's money for things like war and other b.s things.

[@thesaltbaron5733]

The triple lock is needed for millionaire pensioners!

[@Jeremiah59]

I work in the civil service. This screams bureacratic fudging, putting sticking plaster on a serious problem, leading to the burnout of the doctors. The MPs need to do something to increase staffing levels. I can tell the quality of the service has nose dived, from personal experience.

[@Robert-cu9bm]

Doctor and nurses are doing the same hours at work as everyone else.

[@virtutemodestia3477]

No money for your health care but for some reason there's loads of money for Ukraine.

[@Ambrose136]

People live in China and Taiwan still can't understand why GPs can handle with all the diseases instead of corresponding specialists. They can see or even select a specialist according to their symptoms they have or even they suspect to see a doctor in teching hospitals directly. Then they would get examined and check, and get a treatment fastly. The waiting time among these procedure is very short. Which medical system is better?

[@Ambrose136]

@@virtutemodestia3477 Saving Ukraine is protecting the UK

[@rb9301]

@@Robert-cu9bm Are they? What hours do you think they work?

[@Alastair_]

What is most shocking is Scottish healthcare outperforms the rest of the UK consistently and it's still this bad.. I can't even imagine the state of things..

[@MeiinUK]

I have no sympathy for Scotland after everything that they have done. They also bought out a lot of the English assets as well.. and then charged us quite high rentals... So why should England STILL pay back THIS much ?!!!!..... Where did the money go ?!.... The Westminster also did pay apparently... for the energy. London gave a lump sum for this energy crisis... and then resold it back to Scotland. I don't know whether this happened was due to the fact that we are in the EU... Now we see the political chaos and the mess for what it IS !!!!

[@oldmate99]

Did you ever get that rash on your clunge sorted?

[@mattheginger]

Blames covid then proceeds to deny he blamed covid, then proceeds to blame covid again immediately after that… 🙄

[@EIRE55]

Precisely so, Matt. Humza Yousaf MSP looked extremely uncomfortable during that interview, and was even wringing his hands and squirming in his seat. He couldn't cover the NHS for its blatant denial of the true facts, and is just another of the many puppets who spew out empty and insincere words. Let's face it, the NHS has purposely been destroyed. It's over, and 2023 will be very bleak. Take care of yourself and yours.

[@AdamBechtol]

lol : (

[@mythtree6348]

covid is the tool they are using to reorganise society. there is presumably some collapse and UN military takeover in store dont you think ?

[@ikeadatz9160]

A lot of family doctors in Alberta Canada are from the UK. My previous and the one we have now were from the UK. They said they get paid here better and balanced life too 😊

[@mstt3530]

That’s very interesting. I’m seeing a lot of my fellow Brits here in Canada. Unfortunately, the work environment in the UK is draining. Cost of living and opportunities to earn are low compared to other G7 countries. The Tory government has destroyed the UK.

[@Bringon-dw8dx]

Makes sense, I’m a junior doctor and my list of countries im thinking about going to does include Canada (as well as New Zealand and Australia)

[@quwipyui6519]

doctors in Poland have better income than in UK and this is facts

[@tonytandtherevengeofthecru9108]

@@mstt3530 Like rats off a sinking ship.

[@Kiltoonie]

The population of Alberta are much younger and fitter than the aged population here in Scotland. Its dead easy to be a doctor when you don;t have so many heart-sink aged people to care for.

[@annecollins1043]

You did not have to pause care, you chose to.

[@SS-mf5bz]

My friend moved to new Zealand her husband is a doctor and she is a nurse better pay better living standards no brainer

[@tigereyemusic]

Unfortunately, the problem is multi-fold. There’s not enough places for those just out of school who want to do medicine, meaning the entry requirements are higher than they should be, and it’s a postcode lottery as to whether you are likely to have the grades or not. When I was applying I had AAAAC as my school grades, but didn’t even get an interview to get in to medicine, because the minimum entry was AAAAB. People tell kids who miss out that they should go and do a medical-related degree, and apply for post-graduate entry to medicine, but that’s not simple. For post-graduate entry to medicine, people have to choose between earning a decent living working in the field they already have a degree in, or going further into debt (which many simply can’t afford without financial support from family, since the max maintenance loan isn’t even enough to cover rent) to pursue a career that will have them working ridiculous hours and shift patterns under what is known country-wide to be stress-ridden, poor working conditions. As someone who’s parents were retired when I graduated from my first degree, post-graduate entry simply wasn’t financially viable, and even if I could go back now, a cursory look at the working conditions would make me more than hesitant.

[@eswynplantagenet4483]

Absolutely, people are getting the grades needed to make competent doctors but there aren’t enough training spaces to make use of all the talent

[@oldmate99]

How about I play the world's smallest violin

[@laurencedavey3121]

@@oldmate99 Or take a long walk off a short pier.

[@ellevasc]

That’s very true. A person with AAAAC, like you, is more than capable to go through a medicine undergrad. I understand why they have to be tough on requirements, but not even giving someone like you an interview is just ridiculous. The requirements are just as ridiculous in England because of the lack of places available, and since there’s always people that get four A*s, people that get anything below that - even if that is, say, two A*s and two As, which are REALLY good grades - are less likely to be accepted. They just miss out on plenty of students who could become wonderful doctors because of these requirements.

[@Tripps2564]

@@eswynplantagenet4483 Similar issue in the USA.

[@paul8161]

I watched the video tonight on channel four and the response from the Scottish MP was shameful to say the least with his answers to the video of a GP saying how bad things have gotten. It's seems the MPS in England and Scotland seem to treat people like idiots,and think that's ok.clue it's so not.

[@mythtree6348]

its very sad. i know many nasty doctors and a couple of good ones. the good onesburn out and get exhausted. its tough times. scotland has some really evil drs and some really awful MSPs .. i hope they leave us alone overall. i assume they have a UN, WHO military plan in store for us tbh.. covid was a warmup.

[@h.cheongseow656]

ye.. ye.. no surprise. Typical minister's explanations. Same as my country.

[@johnnyboyvan]

Absolutely insane. Very frightening.

[@kencampbell-rf6ot]

The reporter Slips in the truth about how much more work GP's are doing 2.50 timestamp. If you divide the extra work between all GP's.... a single GP has an increased workload of 0.03% within the last 3 years. Guess i wasn't meant to do the math. Dr Peet stated she has 4500 patients. Thats how many people are registered with her at her private practise, NOT how many people she is treating. Try making an appointment after 3 o'clock with Dr Peet and you will quickly find she has left her private practise for the day. A 5 hour day must be brutal

[@anarchism1]

4500 are registered under her. Its not about seeing pts. All blood results, hopsital documents repeat prescriptions will come to that gp..

[@OhSoddit]

Well observed sir.

[@infinite_cats1204]

Dr Peat was one of my go to GPs. She is a fantastic GP and it's really going to be felt in the community

[@SandraMurray-cd7tb]

Absolutely appalling!

[@simonac688.]

Same in Canada

[@toriesdontgettazered7464]

Why are channel 4 targeting scotlands NHS instead of the whole UK, they did the same hatchet job on the Welsh NHS the other day ,the problems started in 2010 with the Tories, I cannot understand why they fail to mention underfunding g across the whole of the NHS or the impact of Brexit which is very significant on the whole economy

[@rickmaurer8726]

Corporate media

[@KJ-js7pi]

they're trying to make it seem like the whole of the UK is having a NHS crisis.. so messed up. The reporting should be focussed on England only

[@markwalshopoulos]

They've done pieces about every region of the UK lol

[@_____alyptic]

Tories still influence the other regions via funding, targets/mistakes, & changing rules on how local trusts can allocate that funding.

[@ukguy]

Westminster decides how much funding each country gets. They get to decide how it's used.

[@gillianlillis1984]

“Nobody’s blaming covid” when he’s 100% blaming the pandemic 😂

[@pakelly99]

for information, you may be aware england is in a much worse and much more adversarial position vis a vis government and nurses. You’d need a lightning quick finger on the stopwatch to catch the time between humza mentioning that nurses aren’t going on strike in scotland and how quick your man was with “not yet! not yet!” like a rat up a drainpipe.

[@gillianlillis1984]

@@pakelly99 I’m a nurse in Scotland, we want to strike and have voted to do so! Just waiting on the unions and their talks 🙄

[@serkonanvoid9373]

@@pakelly99 rat up a drainpipe? There's a few msps have been accused and found guilty of that very thing Scottish n0nsee party batten down the hatches😂

[@Betty-wt3sw]

Everything is an excuse

[@WildDenniz]

Well, I have been the resident of Danderhall for more than a year and I was unable to register with this GP practice next to my door. I was registered on Dalkeith Medical Centre by tye NHS Board instead of Danderhall... Sad times...

[@Ismail-Yahya]

This is true for all surgeries across the UK. Honestly it's a shambles. It's no fault of these people on the frontline - it's the guys cutting costs and reducing facilities at the top.

[@oldmate99]

It's all their fault greedy swine

[@rickkarsan4491]

if they worked harder and mire efficiently, then this wouldnt be a problem. They all get paid 6 figures.

[@pinin1708]

​@@rickkarsan4491 they are highly skilled and well educated people of course they are going to get a good pay! Uneducated people like you are only concerned about their pay

[@craighillcomposer]

@@rickkarsan4491 How do you propose they work harder? Rush patients which will lead to mistakes and then law suits and compensation being paid out when people die as a result? "They all get paid 6 figures" So do many jobs that require less skills and stress.

[@clarepartrick1066]

Well if the government didn’t keep adding to the population and kept on training our own GP’s we wouldn’t be in this mess.

[@Ghost572]

Yeah that is a contributing factor, proper stupid not having the infrastructure in place to support the population.

[@DaShiz992]

But scotlands population has been stagnant for years so I dont get your logic....

[@aphroditeblighty]

We can't have a serious conversation about unsustainable population levels - and these are the consequences. No amount of building housing and increasing staffing levels will address the real issue.

[@mydogeatspuke]

When the amount of houses built and staff increased is zero, yes, it doesn't address anything.

[@oldmate99]

Coz you know all the answers right dummo

[@Kyemech]

admirable reporter ty

[@thepolticalone961]

It's weird you guys went to Scotland with this when the issue is with Westminster

[@eliasashwood1460]

There's loads of examples being done in England, though. Next thing, there'll be a Scot complaining about the lack of coverage of struggling Scottish hospitals. Just a quick one: I'm not entirely blaming this on Scotland, but they do have a devolved government, which is one stop better off than the North West, for example.

[@mmcc5846]

@Barry Barry that's because we pay for most the uk

[@Camille_Anderson]

if Scotland did not afford England any fiscal benefit, they would have given them independence long ago.

[@aynurskene7231]

They are internally all connected

[@moallysnackbar]

Let's let you guys up there go .....then no one to blame for your own failures then

[@ledafrancescamichela5519]

the govern should give free university studies + rent+ expenses to high achieving students from poorer background that want to study medicine nursing etc and become technitians for hospital machinery and increase wages of the lowest wages within the NHS.

[@Bringon-dw8dx]

It’s already over subscribed. It’s the number of places that are the issue. Also as you progress through training there is a bottle neck which makes it harder and harder to progress

[@dunzytech4719]

Other govts eg Germany do it so it's achievable. Give incentives to attract more GP's into the system.

[@tensaijuusan4653]

You can see that the well suited government minister couldn't give a toss for the people.

[@florenciapistritto5747]

I had a wonderful GP that quit. The new one is completly clueless and wouldn't trust her with my health, the only thing she cared about was a painkillers prescription, when there was a letter of a specialist that I saw privately explaining how serious my health condition is.

[@arealprofile]

It's been bad for a while. My doctor's office hasn't offered appointments in advance for 3 years. They only every offer appointments for as come first serve if you call up at 8am for that day - Which some people can't do due to work etc

[@johnwealthy6044]

Imagine the pressure with another 10 million people living in the UK. Not just the NHS, but all public services, housing, erosion of countryside for yet more ‘new builds’. Britain is bursting and cannot continue like this any longer. And imagine coping like this but with water scarcity too? Not now, but in say 30 years time.

[@sciencefliestothemoon2305]

Another 10 Million? Where are they coming from? In 30 years time this country will have lost most of its boomer generation and the millennials will start their celestial discharge.

[@SolPhantasmagoria]

_Paramedics and Pharmacists are a great solution to helping mitigate the pressures of community healthcare, maximising the skillsets of both. I hope to push this with my local council and be part of the solution._

[@apemoon1731]

What has changed so much between February 2020 and February 2023? Surely there can't be so many new patients on their books that the service has suffered so much? At my doctor's surgery, you could go between 8am and 10am every weekday WITHOUT AN APPOINTMENT and see someone. Sometimes it was the nurse, sometimes it was one of the doctors. That's all finished now and they push you towards online consultation by default.

[@andrewprentice4096]

I came back to Australia because the NHS was bad for my health

[@Astro_Gorilla]

This is heart breaking. I have felt some of it myself but to be honest the thing that makes me so so angry is that this has been coming my whole career (13 and a half years) and no one wants to do anything about it. The politicians are tone deaf and we see no end to it. If my salary kept up with inflation my basic would be £9,222 more a year than it is now. No wonder people don't want to come into my career. One I love by the way. It is genuinely crazy how bad it is and the step up many of us are taking to help more and getting precisely nothing in return. In the end the public need to decide what sort of service they want and if they want a world class service - and I believe it was not so long ago, they need to pay for it, in wages, in bursaries and in taking the time to make sensible choices about how they use it.

[@casperwallace9685]

The NHS has been underfunded since Cameron came in in 2010. Yet England still kept voting Tory in, privatising the NHS has been a tory wet dream for decades and now the people who vote Tory gave them all the right conditions to do it. They warned everyone in 2012 Terrifyingly, according to The World Health Organisation definition the UK no longer has a English NHS The English NHS Reinstatement Bill may be the final hope we have of getting our NHS back 34% of NHS contracts are going to the private sector AFP/Getty The NHS has actually been abolished. Now you may think that this is untrue. After all, you still go and see your GP or may be admitted to hospital and receive care free at the point of delivery. However, the Health & Social Care Act 2012 has abolished the NHS in legislative terms. It has achieved this through several mechanisms. It has axed the government's responsibility for the NHS. It has devolved responsibility to Clinical Commissioning Groups (CCGs). The CCGs have no legal obligation to provide you with anything beyond emergency care - this may not be the case at present but it means that there is no legal guarantee that they will continue to do so.

[@-j308]

I don't think the NHS has ever been world class. It isn't about the public, we pay our tax for a service. The issue is with the politicians refusing a budget, but more importantly the quality of recruits. It might be different outside of London, but in London it is and always has been an absolute joke.

[@Astro_Gorilla]

@@-j308 nope you are utterly wrong. There is actual data to prove that it lead the world not so long ago. And given that I work in it I also get to see it first hand and have watched the decline over the last decade. The public absolutely have a part to play. They expect miracles when none are available, they choose services poorly and they ultimately get the final say on policy by voting. They keep voting in the people who care least about the NHS

[@MeiinUK]

Why would your salary ever go up Andy ? We joined Europe... and we decentralised our banks... and asset stripped them. There is no more international banking, the kind that we used to be able to do any more. This is gone. Those days are gone. When each European countries dealt with their own budgets and things, and only gave "excess to the central european pot", then sure.. this made sense. But that is not what went on... or decided.

[@cyclobenchaprine]

@Sami sam the average work week roughly 25 hours. the average worker is not responsible for the lives of dozens of people a day. the average worker can work at

[@barnabybot]

Force politicians to only use state schools for their kids and the national health for the health care and see how quickly the system changes.

[@tomickes409]

I worked in England for 20 years as a general practitioner. Over that period, I observed a noticeable decline in patient attitudes. It seemed that expectations became increasingly unrealistic, as if they viewed me as a magician who could instantly resolve their health issues without realistic basis. This wasn't just a few isolated cases; it became a widespread expectation among my patients. I'm relieved to have moved on from that challenging environment. I wish you all the worse............

[@marcuswilson3485]

There may not be doctors, nurses and ambulance crews on strike in Scotland but it sure seems that way. GP surgeries and A&E departments are becoming overwhelmed.

[@halfbakedproductions7887]

I've got a family friend in Scotland who has been stuck on an NHS waiting list for a new hip for almost three years now. He's given up and become desperate - constant pain and basically disabled with very limited quality of life - so he's going private at the cost of £16k, something which is terrifying him. And even the private hospitals are seeing unprecedented waiting times because they're being overrun with other desperate NHS patients doing the same thing. He feels very fortunate to have that money and no immediate need to spend it on anything else. But what about those who don't? He actually retired a year early because of his mobility. 38 years of paying into the system at a final salary of £58k and he has said he's not sure it was worth it. Pathetic state pension, can't get healthcare, his local roads are like driving on Mars and just last week his neighour lost an 18 month old tyre, bin collections in his area have been cut, cost of everything is up up up.

[@marcuswilson3485]

Yea it’s dreadful. I can’t even find a dentist

[@sextonblake4258]

If they think being a Doctor is bad, try being a patient that got 40% of their pay taken to provide healthcare, only to find that there is no healthcare available, and now they have no money to pay to go private.

[@sarahkennedy1481]

NHS hospital staff working under lots of stress plus bullying.

[@morrisonnewton236]

Hello Sarah I see happiness all around you, can I please share from it ❤?

[@sarahkennedy1481]

@@morrisonnewton236 I am happy. Lots of good things. Thank you

[@morrisonnewton236]

Thanks Sarah I’m really happy that you’re feeling good and I hope we can be good friends together if you don’t mind

[@sarahkennedy1481]

@@morrisonnewton236 I do not know you. Who are you ? Respectfully.

[@morrisonnewton236]

I’m Morrison Newton from Kentucky and looking for a friend who can share his or her happiness with me because I feel so sad Sarah

[@TheZacman2]

Everybody in Britain says they can never see their GP; what patients are they talking about?

[@aievgindustries]

its hard...to find a passionate doctors and professionals.. I do respect these lovely people. HELP THEM TOO...

[@robbyjackson5103]

Who would have thought it? Uncontrolled mass migration for many years and now services are under extreme pressure. At this stage it would be best to introduce a private system. NHS is finished.

[@Aquacrystal78]

Or the NHS can only run emergencies or progressive diseases.

[@Zaquria]

Stop talking shite. The health service in the UK has been underfunded in the UK since 2009, A lot of Health workers who were from the EU left after Brexit (My dentist included). It's underfunded and understaffed right now. There is nothing stopping the likes of you going full privatized now, I just hope that your private insurance covers everything, or you may have to file for bankruptcy just to keep going.

[@robbyjackson5103]

@@Aquacrystal78 Yes something like that. The current system is not fir for purpose.

[@fatpinkteddy]

Exactly total joke of a system. If we go abroad we have to pay for medical care so why shouldn’t they if they come here.

[@robbyjackson5103]

@@fatpinkteddy You Can't say that Julie you racist nazi 🤣🤣🤣

[@Will-ql2fl]

I do think I may have the solution for all the frustration. Increase the manpower will solve almost 30% of all the problem. A brief for myself, I'm a Malaysia Bio medic student and I have finding a placement for the pass 6 months. Most my application were rejected due inexperience in the clinical area. Of course I'm inexperience that's why I'm a student and need a placements to gain experience. I never work before because I spend most of my time in my room to studies. Eventually I give up my placement finding and try get a luck to work myself from the low rank staff like a carer. In the end, I went to an mass recruitment for Band 2 HCSW and I score the highest in the interview. (For those people who not work in NHS before there are rank within all role, band 2 are the low to band 8 to the highest). My placement is around band 4. While the interviewer ask me where you wish to station, I immediately said A&E. Because I believe A&E is not only the most intense area of the whole hospital department but also the most short staff area throughout other department due to the intensity of the stress. When I was there not only I'm the only band 2 and also the youngest. While working now, I understand how busy is there, 1 A&E nurse have to take care 3 -5 max of patients and don't forget all nurse shift . I once singly look after average 20 patients, the most is 50 patients without any help. I once being scold by one of the patients for saying I'm slow, but what they don't know is that I being working not stop and don't even have time for toilet at all. Have being experience some burnout before. From there I think if the trust lower all application requirement and give every applicant a changes to work. I think not only it could increase the efficiency at the trust but it also giving clinical experience to the individual. Like me I have immediate promoted after 4 months due to my bio medic background and I have saved few patients by my knowledge. Anyway this is my personal point of view, hope others agree on it.

[@MeiinUK]

It is time that Malaysia university have to close or take in their own people. If you do not then... there should not be this many.. and when you enter into another country. What you are taught may not necessarily be useful for their situation or courses, ANY WAY..... So this is redundant ??...

[@MeiinUK]

Fyi. You should not be allowed to work to begin with cos you don't qualify. Cos people like yourself is seen as cheap labour costs without pension payments. What happened is that it went down the private route. Some of these so called business owners doesn't know that they cannot recruit people like you any more. Cos Malaysia is no longer part of the British commonwealth countries ? So therefore by right.. they should recruit British citizens first. Then British commonwealth. Then EU. Cos it is a taxation piece between these countries and trades and groupings. This is not discrimination at all. Those universities should not sell you an idea... And not realise that they can't. Agents in Malaysia should also have taken notes too... Cos nobody prosecuted.. this is why it is a mess. Even if you know somebody that had before. It was because of their ancestor's being able to do so before. By right.. they.. you also should declare taxes properly to your own home country too etc.... Those doors closed as the world globalised.

[@Nightskyvibes1]

So sad

[@JonesySurvived]

"Britain has 4,285 fewer European doctors than if the rising numbers who were coming before the Brexit vote in 2016 had been maintained since then, according to analysis by the Nuffield Trust health thinktank" How is Brexit not even mentioned here? Has the nation been so distracted by the Covid situation that we've forgotten we essentially set up a mass exile of GPs? Even "Hamza Useless" is seemingly completely ignoring this.

[@Diana-007]

It breaks my heart seeing colleagues and patients suffering like this. This is a very balanced and true life report, as a newly retired midwife after 40years in the health service I know how hard our GP practices work, this crisis is not new, the SNP should be highly ashamed of themselves, this has been building up for many, many years, health minister after health minister has been told relentlessly about the problems ahead from recruitment to lack of beds from all the major professional colleges but they chose to prioritise other things, now services are on their knees it will take years to rectify, a decent long term plan is essential, SNP stop defending the indefensible and get the work done!

[@oldmate99]

Need to drink a good cup of concrete and harden the eff up

[@Diana-007]

@@oldmate99 thank you kind sir for your literary genius, now go back under the rock you crawled out from and leave the comment section to decent folks.

[@peterstevensons1181]

If only this Scottish health minister was as good at his job as the interviewer/ presenter is at his

[@QESPINCETI]

EXACTLY!!! HE'S ASIAN MAFIA Snake with a smiling face

[@fatpinkteddy]

Exactly hamz useless he is called

[@Kiki-yw9kc]

I’m from Belfast in Northern Ireland and people are dying because they cannot get through to their GP It is impossible . Appointment’s are months away and you can’t even make an appointment over the phone with the receptionist as the doctor has to phone people to see if they qualify for one . The local hospital is on its knees . Hundreds of people in a&e and one nurse taking bloods . No ambulances either and it’s only getting worse.

[@oldmate99]

Bit dramatic aren't ya

[@ed7384]

It’s getting that way over the water in ireland

[@hvacdesignsolutions]

When you look at the cost of studying medicine in the UK, no wonder there is a shortage of GPs.

[@MeiinUK]

The doctors now are no longer tied to a single entity. They can be employed by the central government's NHS business authority xyz.. and then be seconded into different locations.. is my understanding. That is why they are specifically saying that "no longer salaried (by us)"... but then, it seems that her site is no longer actually being given the budgets either to bring in other sites and other spare locum people as well. WELL... Maybe they are NOT in the loop. lol.... Cos other regions have quite sophisticated sites now... and groupings... And of course, those people are both the politicians, as well as the health doctors as well.. Win Win !!! And the rest of us ? We don't and won't have a say !!!!

[@louisegould8840]

Waiting two weeks to see a gp is not safe

[@fatpinkteddy]

Agree my friend was having a heart attack she phoned the doctors they said go to the hospital then went to the hospital and they said she should went to her doctor. The system is a joke

[@saz9882]

@@fatpinkteddy if she truly believed she was ‘having a heart attack’ then faffing by going to the GP clinic is not the plan! If she heads tol A&E and they rule it out, examine her & say otherwise when she gets there then so be it. A&E is where you head for a heart attack!

[@fatpinkteddy]

@@saz9882 she did have a heart attack the nurse at the hospital was just been rude.

[@SCOTLAND81]

If you spend your life paying national insurance and you are not recieving satisfactory healthcare then by law the the healthcare system is not providing the service you pay for. Therefor you are entitled to take legal action against them and they must compensate you. So everybody has to start legal action now.

[@x-men69-96]

That's how "free" healthcare works. Thanks God, at least we have a better healthcare in the US. At least, our Dr and nurses are well paid.

[@gillianlillis1984]

Humza Useless

[@medina8223]

Thank goodness somebody a actually acknowledged the massive work and contribution that GPs do day in and day out, treating whats treatable in community, preventing admissions to hospital, recognising and referring emergencies. The only reason NHS is still floating ( just about) is because of stoic primary care.

[@davidhill1958]

I’m a doctor and work in Florida. When back home i work shifts in A&E. But, the GMC makes it difficult to retain my license. So, I’m about to drop my license.

[@michaelyun2407]

Why work in health care when the stress are high, pay is so low you have nurses going to food banks. Why not work elsewhere or change industry.

[@rickkarsan4491]

suprisingly people care and primarily want to help others. It wasnt ever this bad and was highly rewarding.

[@Camille_Anderson]

the issue is lack of funds, too many new patients due to over immigration, aging population, understaffed and over worked. This is a national crisis, its not about the career paths of individuals.

[@Lucky-wt6fg]

@@Camille_Anderson I don’t think he means that. The government doesn’t care, they are not interested in caring, the nhs is broken.

[@manukantbhatnagar1239]

Journalism at it's best

[@chuckmaddison2924]

Same in Australia thing's are bad. I went to doctor yesterday for repeat prescription. Normally bulk bill through Medicare ( free to patient) cost me $ 80 , big surprise.

[@oldmate99]

How did the prostate check go?

[@asifnabi3004]

Health secretary needs to be sacked

[@Lily_ofthevall3y]

Feel for all are health professionals this is unfair bet the mps are injoying their lovely lives at the min get it together government.... so discussed to call myself British

[@pedrolg]

It's so difficult now to hire EU personnel. Well, at least they took back control of many things, they say...

[@Ghost572]

More like they let to many people into the UK and didn't increase the size of the hospitals/ staff.

[@pedrolg]

@@Ghost572 They let too many old people? Because the ageing UK population is what is spiking dramatically causing the caos in the NHS. Also, it's one of the slowest growing populations in the world. No births, no immigrants, no funds, no healthcare for Brits in EU countries ➡️ strained NHS.

[@liberoAquila]

Who would be crazy enough to work in the NHS?

[@pedrolg]

@@liberoAquila The best professional around the world who make peanuts right now and still work in a challenging environment anyways.

[@ge9367]

Humza Yousaf is about as slimly as a politician can get.

[@colinsmith1288]

The only people who should be running the nhs are doctors and nurses. Not glorified accountants or out of touch politicians.

[@jasonking6892]

Like so many areas of the 🇬🇧 UK a complete Train Wreck P S I haven't used the NHS in 30 Years..healthy lifestyle exercise no garbage food ... Next story

[@HappyAwesomePower]

Aww that’s good for you. Guess that just means it’s a non issue for the country. Don’t worry everyone, Jason doesn’t eat garbage food so we’re not gonna highlight that you haven’t been able to get a hip replacement for 3 years.

[@jasonking6892]

@@HappyAwesomePower play nice..no ice cream for you .

[@HappyAwesomePower]

@@jasonking6892 As patronising as you are hopelessly thick.

[@maigepresents5840]

I feel sorry for these doctors and people in third world countries like the UK...

[@aynurskene7231]

Believe or not, system and problems are same at all NATO countries

[@morrisonnewton236]

Hello I see happiness all around you, can I please share from it ❤?

[@GrishokA]

WOW this reminds me of how employers were talking about the 2008 financial crisis in 2015 :D

[@marlonblade007]

This is developing nation stuff😳

[@BeatlemaccaAR]

This level doesn't even happen in supposedly underdeveloped Argentina .. although resident GPs are paid about £ 300 a month with 10/12 daily hours, 6 days a week... I don't understand anything anymore.

[@Robert-cu9bm]

@@BeatlemaccaAR They're not allowed to do that many hours here. 48 maximum.

[@jamm8284]

"Its not us, It's because of covid"" Also "No ones blaming covid" 🤷‍♂️🤣

[@QESPINCETI]

Whatever happened to the Hippocratic Oath ??

[@beverleyprice7468]

They are right he is not listening!

[@irshadkhan9285]

Scotland is a nice place, may God with them

[@foreignofficeclub5815]

Respect and love to you and your family from Scotland

[@irshadkhan9285]

@@foreignofficeclub5815 How are you my brothers and sisters

[@foreignofficeclub5815]

@@irshadkhan9285 All is well thank you brother 💙

[@irshadkhan9285]

@@foreignofficeclub5815 I have been living a painful life since I was born 1978

[@QESPINCETI]

WHICH GOD?

[@vienasvienintelis]

If I would be Prime Minister I would put most of my focus and time on NHS until its fixed, massive reforms, massive funding increase and restructuring. I lived in UK for 15 years until Brexit. But even thought I left, I still love UK it's like my second home, it's hard to watch this. It makes me so angry.

[@aynurskene7231]

REFORMS brought the NHS down, it is a positive word but work negative way

[@juliehughes4623]

In England since Covid started, March 2020 nearly 3's ago, patients can't get an appointment, so why are they so tired?

[@chrischoy9]

Because there is now a 3 year backlog after being burnt to crisps from the pandemic. We’ve never had a break unlike people on non essential roles who got a pause during the pandemic. No one has a chance to recover mentally like it was pre-pandemic… not that it was without faults back then.

[@ellecrescent9834]

I’m so sick of politicians giving excuses. It’s so invalidating to all those hardworking doctors that are drowning and struggling knowing they can’t provide the level of care they so desperately want to. It would mean so much if he after seeing that short clip of the gps would simply acknowledge: ‘Yes, things are really bad and they need to change.’

[@schrodingerscat1863]

There are three main factors that have lead to this, first is government meddling thinking they can work out how doctors should do their jobs and allocate resources and second many doctors now work part time meaning they have a much higher workload overall on the days they do work. Those that still work full time are then inundated filling in for the part timers. Then of course is the third problem of a fast increasing population due to immigration, this is putting a huge strain on all public services not just the NHS.

[@schrodingerscat1863]

@@28FlyingDutchman Normally much worse.

[@schrodingerscat1863]

​@@28FlyingDutchman Here in the UK where the government provides pretty much all health care it is a complete disaster at the moment. People are dying in their homes waiting hours for ambulances that when they do arrive then queue outside hospitals for hours to get the patient onto a trolly in a corridor for hours before they get any treatment at all. The whole system has utterly fallen apart in the last 3 years.

[@schrodingerscat1863]

@@28FlyingDutchman Yes, personally I think the US system would be fine if they deregulated insurance provision and introduced controls on profiteering from drug companies. That isn't going to happen though because those in charge are being paid off by the pharma and insurance companies to keep the status quo. Looking at the way your system is regulated one could argue it is completely backwards if you were trying to protect those who need medical services and not those who profiteer from them.

[@schrodingerscat1863]

@@28FlyingDutchman I agree about price caps, that helps no one ultimately. Barriers to entry are the real problem together with things like not buying across state lines. Increased competition is always the best way to allow a market to regulate itself. Kickbacks to doctors from drug companies also need to be banned, it's corrupt and leads to problems like over prescription of Oxycontin. There really isn't much good about our system in the UK if I'm honest for your system to emulate. I suppose at least our version of the FDA isn't funded by the drug companies so that's something I suppose.

[@94leinad94]

Has anything happened in the last 10 years that might have caused that!? 2 minutes later 'Nobody is blaming covid'

[@gavinturner5565]

Yupperoo!!! Ever since the Tories took charge in 2010 and the UK 'public' have voted them in ever since. Hasn't the UK public ever learned??? The Tory side love this cause the Tory public voted them in, lol!!! The whole premise of the Tory 🎉 is slash, slash, slash!!! Taxes, duh!!! Equates to ZERO diminished public services!!! Then the Labour RED wall collapsed and voted the bastards in to get 'Brexit' done, lol!!! Are those people still laughing now???

[@moallysnackbar]

@@gavinturner5565 you upset about gender vote thing ?

[@Kiltoonie]

@BoomBoomTopG immigration is the solution to the NHS crisis, not the problem. Most immigrants are young and healthy.

[@JW-gn9lz]

this is sooo heartbreaking! NO SUPPORT for the NHS

[@Abraham_Tsfaye]

When I was in UK. I saw empty boarded up streets under a constant grey sky, litter everywhere. Homeless people sleeping in doorways. Opioid addicts out of their mind and women so drunk they urinated on the streets. It's a sad declined country

[@pmc2999]

Frightening. But let's blame it on the pandemic.

[@4fflicti0n822]

But there's a vaccine already. Nurses and GPs shouldn't die first anymore right?

[@Jeremiah59]

People are dying from the shots. blood clots are caused by the shots.

[@ianplunkett8013]

Plandemic

[@chadimirputin2282]

@@ianplunkett8013 scamdemic.

[@imastaycool]

The rest of the world is recovering from the pandemic hahaha You had BREXIT. A Tory Brexit.

[@edoardopesciolini8979]

I perfectly understand the doctor's problem to deal with NHS in default, but this is not an excuse to let people die because still waiting for that doctor to phone them back. In Aberdeen the situation is dramatic, I get a doctor's phone after 8 weeks. This is unacceptable.

[@robabs4545]

Go private or support better pay for doctors/nurses/nhs funding

[@rtyuio6215]

This Scottish minister seems to imply that GPs aren't doctors! I hope that's just semantics, but I've heard similar from other MPs. Doesn't fill me with faith anyway....

[@stuartfitch7093]

I think it says it all when more houses were built but they were expected to cope with the extra demand for healthcare that those households created. Stop importing 500k people a year with skills we don't need and take strain off demand. Only accept people to come here that have the skills we need so there's a net positive affect to their being here.

[@HShango]

Right with over 130k vacancies...but yeah keep talking utter trash out of your mouth 🙄

[@Camille_Anderson]

exactly!!! we are supporting illegal immigrants to the tune of £5m per day to support the ones coming in on boats illegally. A & E has to deal with non emergency visits by many of them who are claiming they are needing better accommodation or food, who have been aggressive & their serious health problems cant wait to find a GP. It is unrelenting, but the staff feel they are ignored, the police are called but all they do is tell them to call back if it escalates further..... great help, wait til you are assaulted.

[@marlonblade007]

@@Camille_Anderson where is this happening?

[@Zaquria]

NURSE!!!!!!!!

[@Zaquria]

@@Camille_Anderson DOCTOR!!!!! Another one has escaped their cell again!!

[@henryb160]

Looks like Scotland needs less Sturgeons and more surgeons.

[@pedrocovas8140]

NHS DOES NOT CARE FOR THE PEOPLE SERVING IT. They don’t protect the staff, they just care about the patients, what the patient deserves. What about the provider??

[@bobgamble8204]

I thought a lot of GPs were retiring because their pensions weren't accruing as much as they'd like them to? And those that are leaving the NHS due to burnout, but then working in a higher paid private situation.....what story does that tell us?

[@user-rd7ek9ve3r]

And how much money and how many boozy lunches do investment Bank get... graphics designers and people in marketing...teachers, nurses, social workers, carers feel the same.... unsupported...and they are fundamental

[@guppy0112]

Sorry to give you a reality check- but there wouldn't be an NHS/ Welfare/ Military without the City! The city generates huge amount of taxes for our country, powering our economy, and not to mention all the jobs! Bear in mind not everyone is interested in being a doctor, teacher etc. I mean, are you? I'm a teacher myself (maths).

[@user-rd7ek9ve3r]

@@guppy0112 obviously, but still run public health well...which jobs are fundamental... economy is important as are the things mentioned above

[@morrisonnewton236]

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[@luxmibhatoolaul5013]

How stupid. Quitting because of too many patients. They need to take breaks as normal

[@MED-fe1qt]

Humza is completely NOT listening. Not listening and being totally defensive. It’s not going to be solved because these people in power DO NOT LISTEN. They’re only worried about how to answer and save their skin.

[@siobhankelly7451]

They need to stop asking biological men if they're pregnant.

[@HShango]

Lol

[@Graysonn1]

Typical TERF. You're obsessed and try to force your transphobia into any situation. Seriously, look at yourself. It's an obsession.

[@moallysnackbar]

NHS to busy cutting genitals off.

[@evas5809]

I really feel for everyone working in hospitals, but I have a few GP friends in England (Cambridge and Kent) and they definitely do not have this kind of stress nor they are as busy. If anything, both are earning loads of money because all hours when they're just 'on call' but stay at home are paid extra. GPs we go to in London are always available, GP practices are always empty, so I'm not sure how there are such discrepancies from one GP practice to the next

[@mydogeatspuke]

I'm in Yorkshire and can't even get a 5 minute routine nurse appointment 4 weeks in advance. There are no GP appointments. At all. If I needed help, I'd have to go to A&E, there is no other option. My area has a collection of roughly 12 surgeries all in a "partnership" that is privately owned, and patients can be sent to any of those surgeries, sometimes 10 miles away, even if they have one a few feet from their home. You can call at 8am and still be in a queue to speak to reception for over 2 hours, at which point of course there are no appointments left for the day.. or the week... Or the month. But if you ever attend the surgeries, they're all empty! Just staff stood in the hallways chatting away. It makes no sense.

[@MeiinUK]

@@mydogeatspuke : This is why we had devolution. Same where I am too. My GP is now asking "do you want to go to a hub"... e.g. One of THEIR clinics. This is all about the business, and it is ALL about them. Nothing about the citizen at all. NOthing about us. And yet, even one of my friend who was a retired NHS nurse. She gets the old type pension that is from the state. And then... her colleagues are now in this private setting. They now have a lot of loans... with so many so called "contracts or PPI".... that ends up with... so many of us, unaware of what is going on ??? She goes private. So.. basically, she is using not her own money. Her salary which came from the state's.. to give to her friends.. who now went to start their own companies.. and she is passing it onto them? SO... what about the rest of us, who is NOT a part of this tiny little business group then !?!?.... We're out in the cold ? And yet, the NI taxes, and all of those spends, STILL adds to the actual overall NHS pot as well. How is this possible !?....

[@medina8223]

You are talking nonsense

[@mydogeatspuke]

@@MeiinUK yeah, my surgery has a different surgery for each "specialty," even though a GP is a GENERAL practitioner with no specialty. It's completely inexplicable. I have severe endometriosis and have to get an injection every 10 weeks to try and stop it from spreading, although the damage is already done and can't safely be surgically resolved without enormous risk to the surrounding organs, which nobody is at all bothered about because I thankfully didn't want kids in the first place. Instead of a running appointment to make sure I don't miss my safe window and experience withdrawal and so significant pain and bleeding, both menstrual and internal (!!!), I'm expected to call 4 weeks beforehand to be told there are no appointments left at the CASH (sexual health) clinic, or 5 weeks beforehand to be told they don't have the staff rota available yet, then asked if I can wait a week. No, I can't..... It's not for contraception, it's for a serious medical condition. They wouldn't dream of telling someone with a heart condition or diabetes that there's nothing they can do and it will just have to wait a week! They don't even let me wait at the end of the surgery hours for any cancellations, it's just a shrug. I can't go anywhere else, they won't let me self administer, it's just.. no, tough, suffer, not our problem. And I explain it all, the whole story, every time I call and they act like I just need to use condoms instead and it's no big deal, and it's never added to the secretary notes, and the issue continues. It's been like this since I moved to the area 5 years ago, completely incompetent and only worse with time. Postcode lottery is alive and well, and the NHS has never been fit for purpose.

[@MeiinUK]

@@mydogeatspuke: For the record, Singapore is already doing keyhole surgery when it comes to endo. And here we are in the UK.. dealing with this. We know what this means.. and we know this kind of systemic racism is what it is... and we know this... and sure.. those ethnic minorities who is inside the NHS isn't doing good or great services but see it asa business is also an issue as well... but two things do not make a right. This is for sure... We know this.

[@matildaGin777]

I have done my access to nursing, started working at the local hospital and I hate it. Totally burned out, had mental breakdown and all of it is not worth the money... i am going back to study data analytics to have better work and life balance. I feel for all medical professionals working for the NHS.