NHS nurses share the barrage of racism they face 'daily' | LBC

[@MartinJames389]

Elderly white patient here (5 weeks in hospital 18 months ago). Age is no excuse for racism, and I don't like attempts to make it one.

[@clivet3252]

Only the other day Spud wouldn't hear a peep against NHS management, but it's fine to hear all these stories about how horrible the public are. In hospital you're going to have to deal with all kinds of people, the mentally ill, drunks, drug addicts. We hear how everyone is supposed to be dementia friendly now, but is that just selective? Is that just for the polite ones who are a bit confused. Spud is paving the way for the NHS to be selective in who they treat here which is a very dangerous path to go down.

[@wephilips6651]

@@clivet3252?

[@BeeBeeCJr]

Me either. I appreciate your take on this.

[@clivet3252]

@@wephilips6651 what are you questioning?

[@wephilips6651]

@@clivet3252 all of it. Who is spud? What’s the connection between them and this? What’s the connection with nhs management? Did that person really say they were beyond reproach? Why are you against people sharing their own experiences? What’s dementia got to do with anything? Your last comment? Thanks in advance Oh is Job spud? If so why? Do you feel calling him that is cool/funny? Do you think it makes you sound someone worth listening to? Cheers 👍🏽

[@thefirm4606]

It’s why I’m leaving this country. 50 years born and bred and I’m still not one of you. Never will be. I’ve had enough, fought long enough and no more. I’m going where I’m wanted and respected

[@Miafunfactory]

Where we going... I'm serious

[@warboss4896]

​@palerider955ill take the door after all we built it

[@thefirm4606]

@@Miafunfactory Portugal 🇵🇹 ❤️❤️ you comin? 😎 you’ll be one of half a million that’s moved over since 2016.

[@thefirm4606]

@@warboss4896 excellent 😂😂

[@barbarahalkyard1901]

It's an embarrassment being English some times.

[@blunderbusssi9587]

'You want a white, male doctor? Ok, but they are all busy until 3 days time and your leg's hanging off so unless I ask Dave the cleaner to get his Duck Tape out you can just lie there in pain until I get an apology...'

[@garyfryer5334]

Cant do that!! Dave the cleaner is too busy with his young boy!!

[@christistratton]

blunderbusss, You ROCK~~~!!

[@decoraqueena6413]

There's probably a shortage of yt male doctors because yt males refuse to get into the medical profession.

[@NaazA-ch6yy]

😂😂😂 the look on the mofos face.....priceless

[@youloveit1]

Harold shipman enters the chat

[@franktreml3145]

I thought the establishment said there was ‘no racism in the UK’ and that the UK was ‘tolerant’ yet this Dr says she sees racism on a daily basis? So maybe Harry and Meghan had a point after all?? Oh dear

[@chatham43]

...nobody said anything of the sort....where do you get your info from...the beano...😊

[@cavemancult1999]

@@chatham43 Actually a lot of people, predominantly white people (as funny as that is) have said that.

[@mikeconnors3880]

Duhhh! Only what folks and black gate keepers think that there is no racism and that harry and Megan were lying

[@mikeconnors3880]

@@chatham43 Boris Johnsongot Tony Sewell who is a well known black gate keeper to do a commission on racism in uk and surprise surprise he found that there was no systematic racism in uk.

[@daughterofenoch677]

Yeah. It was after NHS workers spoke about their own experiences that you believed Meghan 🙄 There was no proof of UK racism before then

[@TheVampyrical]

49yo white guy here from West Lancashire, there is no excuse ever for racism, bigotry, sexism, ageism, etc etc, there needs to be strict laws to completely stamp it all out, I literally disowned many of my own family and got rid of so many friends because of stuff that like, I don't do it so I won't tolerate it out of anyone else, probably why I only have about 5 people that I will call friends.

[@angelabrodie8584]

❤

[@morgan1334]

Friend here in London 😊

[@angelabrodie8584]

@@morgan1334 and another friend in Yorkshire

[@rajveersehmar4508]

Quality over quantity ❤

[@pial3270]

I was working as a triage nurse in A&E in 2000 a year after coming to UK from the Philippines when a male patient came in after I called him to be seen. He went straight into a tirade saying I was the reason why his children do not have work and that I was taking their jobs. The white NA who was with me at that time was shocked to witness this and I answered by saying, “ Excuse me, what does your children do? Did you send them to school? There are still a lot of nursing jobs open for them if they want to. Obvious they are too lazy to do this job cause that’s the reason I am here.” I left the room and got my white senior nurse to deal with him.

[@Kashish4Eijaz]

Brilliant response. Hope he learnt his lesson but doubt he did.

[@pial3270]

@raymondo6665 Yes, right. Have a nice life.

[@pial3270]

@raymondo6665 Hit you hard straight to the gut? That must have been you. Haha.

[@jamiejones8508]

I’m NHS as well & I’m so sorry that happened to you! I’m white but I do hear stories of what happens to my Black colleagues and it’s horrible :-(

[@jamiejones8508]

And it’s not ok!

[@janelockwood347]

We owe a massive debt to these doctors and nurses… I am eternally grateful for their efforts on my behalf…

[@nathanfurnival8724]

They won’t know you’ve just made that comment and will only see a white man who they hate, if you need to go to hospital

[@sarangistudent8614]

@@nathanfurnival8724the hate only comes from one side, I’ll let you guess.

[@nathanfurnival8724]

We all look the same

[@willywonka7812]

​@@nathanfurnival8724no, fascists come in all shapes and sizes. You, in particular, might be a nondescript, generic acolyte of the might - makes - right crowd, but there's fascists everywhere, and every race

[@TheDom277]

Guys. Nathan over there is a known troll in these LBC comments. Just point and laugh at him. Pointless doing anything else to accounts like that.

[@01kaluks24]

I'm a black male junior doctor that's experienced his share of micro aggressions but that last story in regards to the crime watch etc was truly devastating

[@sophialefort-1414]

​@raymondo6665 look it up for urself, it's not black and brown people's responsibility to educate the ignorant

[@robmiths1545]

@raymondo6665the term ‘micro aggressions’ has in use far longer than the far right hijacked the word ‘woke’

[@sophialefort-1414]

@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533 the whole discussion is on the topic of racial micro aggressions. And u obviously need to check ur blind spots when making comments about white privilege, as u clearly lack understanding of the concept. Whether u like it or not white privilege exists, and is part of white supremacy. This is to ensure the survival of the white race,who are a minority on the planet. Thankfully the tides turned and the west is getting melanated .

[@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533]

​@@sophialefort-1414It's not only black and brown people who receive so-called 'microaggressions', in the same way that white people are not necessarily the only priviledged people.

[@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533]

​@@sophialefort-1414You should check yours actually, traditional white working class areas are the poorest in the UK, so much for white priviledge.

[@NickAskew]

I don't want to pin down an individual but someone I know needs daily care and I pointed out that the UK's new immigration policy meant that foreign carers were increasingly unable to be found. They replied "that's OK, we don't want those sorts of people here anyway". The crazy thing is that I am an immigrant, they could so easily have been describing me.

[@cleebe823]

They are, they're just too thick to notice.

[@happymaskedguy1943]

Yeah, I’d call that out. Being in care doesn’t entitle you to be a horrible prat.

[@GCS88]

You see the problem is people in the UK dont know the difference between refugees, asylum seekers, economical migrant, undocumented, if they dont have white skin then they are lumped to as immigrant, If You are an immigrant with white skin they would have no problem with it, that's probably why they told You that blatantly thinking You would understand as a "white person"

[@chatham43]

@nickaskew....a reason there is a shortage of carers is that many were sacked for not taking the covid jab...but perhaps you don't want to take them back...?

[@cleebe823]

@@chatham43 the legislation was revoked, so people have been able to reapply for positions since last Feb. As far as I'm aware it was single digit percentages, but 40000 is still a lot of people to let go and find replacements for. Sad times.

[@JaneAustenAteMyCat]

The NHS needs to do more to protect its staff from abuse. This is absolutely disgusting.

[@ArtyFactual_Intelligence]

@raymondo6665 It is conservative behaviour that is to blame. 'Resistant to change old fogeys', aka conservatism.

[@stopchanging6753]

Why would they do anything or change , nhs when the whole system is made that way believe when they say those remarks they all feel that way and it’s true

[@PP237PP]

@raymondo6665 Drinking their pain away because their Conservative boss' underpay them and overwork them. Their Conservative government has made it so they can never afford to buy a house even though they work 40+ hours a week.

[@pamelaadam9207]

@raymondo6665 most I hear is from drunken pensioners in many cases there is more entitlement shown in that that age group

[@FRANKSNAKE71]

⁠@raymondo6665Why “presumably Labor Supporters” is that your assumption? based on what? Seems like stereotyping.

[@weediestbroom]

"evil never dies, it only sleeps."

[@run2cat4run]

Hate is loud online

[@redpillwoman9785]

They're not necessarily 'evil' in that way; some of these people sound senile and not the brightest to be honest

[@missaden7130]

Doesn’t sleep either, unfortunately

[@stormyweathers9887]

"evil never dies, it only sleeps." and then evolves!

[@brendaal-rifai2919]

It doesn't even do that because it is a rampant raging beast of Satan devouring whom and all ut chooses, be not deceived my dear😮😊😊

[@youknow6968]

Anyone who attacks emergency services staff should have their right to those emergency services put under review, with repeat incidence resulting in, No more service access. Let them pay for it in the private sector.

[@candymcnibblepants]

I've been attacked several times while on shift, management doesnt care ultimately nothing happens

[@youknow6968]

@@candymcnibblepants it's a Shameless society we live in, all about rights, but no emphasis on responsibility.

[@greamespens1460]

Why not establish the recognition of white privilege. Those that are white are treated after all non whites.

[@Imperial-Socialist]

@@candymcnibblepants This is not allowed to happen here. Anything like this is immediately nipped in the bud.

[@avakholwadia1420]

@@candymcnibblepantsso sorry to hear that. 😢

[@randomjasmicisrandom]

My wife works for the NHS organising and coordinating complex care for patients, most of them elderly, many end of life. She regularly gets patients and families refusing to allow carers into a home because their skin is the wrong colour. My wife usually tells them you either accept these carers or find alternatives yourself.

[@Russ_Keith]

As a 73 year old white man I found this exremely depressing. I'm used to defending my generation from "blame game" comments in the political channels and usually have arguments against whatever statement I am disagreeing with but when she said specifically that older people acted this way I felt my heart sink. She had no political agenda, just real life experiences that brought her to that conclusion. I've always thought myself somewhat atypical of my generation since my youth but never more so than after hearing that story. I'm so sorry these dedicated people in particular but also any others have to endure such abuse, especially from people who ought to have lived long enough to know better. Maybe it's different here in Scotland where as a country we all feel marginalised but I don't see that level, or indeed any such discrimination in my day to day life. Or maybe I don't see it because I'm not the target so the subtler attacks go unnoticed.

[@taranullius9221]

You're on the cusp of Silent and Boomers. Not great. We know it's not all of you but you're waaaaaaaaay more right wing than anyone else. Like by a big margin. You're also overwhelmingly more likely to have grown up in pure why*e areas/go to school w/them etc. that doesn't help. You're the least supporting of progressive social issues/most bigoted overall. It's just a fact statistically. That doesn't mean there isn't any of that in our generations and it doesn't mean we won't get there. You're just the worst. Age definitively plays a role. Brain calcifies, people get more reactionary. It will be interesting to see the impact of education though, it's quite different from your day but I suspect there will always be that rightward shift of a certain percentage of people who used to be moderate or progressive.

[@lizchukwu2626]

I can definitely verify that it is completely different in Scotland! It’s culturally so opposite to England and Wales and I have travelled around the UK, working as a Nurse mainly in specialist areas. The reason I now live in Scotland is because of issues related to what my colleagues have talked about. To be honest, living here in Scotland is like a breath of fresh air! Your generation are willing to have the challenging conversations and learn. They are not afraid to ask questions that may be uncomfortable for them. What I have found so intriguing and wonderful is the intelligent dialogue that this creates for people like me of diverse cultural mixes and also for my colleagues too. The breadth of conversations up here in Scotland makes me feel as if I am welcomed and being pranked at one job I went to for quite some time, told me that I belong here and I have to say, the last 2 years are the happiest I have been in my 31 year career.

[@danielokeefe2072]

Very well said

[@robuk3723]

Not sure i would like a diversity hire operating on me.

[@Russ_Keith]

@@danielokeefe2072 👍

[@oralogarro9932]

I taught they said there is no racism in the UK that megan and harry was lying

[@evolassunglasses4673]

In group preference is completely normal around the World.

[@LorraineTapper]

​@@evolassunglasses4673This is not about in group preference, this is about racism. For some reason you are denying the evidence of your own ears.

[@run2cat4run]

@@LorraineTapperand she repeated that comment on many other comments

[@joshkirby2372]

​@@evolassunglasses4673It's actually not.

[@kellyvaters1689]

It took an African-AMERICAN woman to point out the racism at the heart of British society. America didn't start this; they inherited it from the British Empire.

[@pedrohenriqueribeiro8326]

Let’s be honest. This is not a NHS problem. It’s a UK wide problem where people in all industries experience this. Unfortunately if you look different or sound different you will be treated as less intelligent. I have seen so many colleagues over my short career get shut down because they look or sound different. I don’t think it will change anytime soon.

[@マウリツィオ-g6e]

In fairness, someone with those tattoos is less intelligent....

[@susannapavelkova1265]

You don't even have to look or sound different... I'm white and no accent, but I was told to "go back home" because of my name.....

[@ares6953]

i agree ! This was my experience when i was living in the UK.. micro agressions on a constant level !

[@sophialefort-1414]

@susannapavelkova1265 that's xenophobia though not racism

[@barbarahalkyard1901]

There are so many ignorant people who need educating. In not just colour.But also respect to others.

[@emmajk7433]

Dear Health profesisonals, thank you for all you do and you deserve nothing but respect 💜

[@daughterofenoch677]

It isn't just health professionals facing this. It's all non-natives. Period. Everybody saw what happened to Meghan markle when she began to speak out. She was discredited and demonized. This is the classic UK tactic for dealing with those who speak out about UK racism.

[@SPinder-qw6yg]

I've spent every day for the last 3 months visiting my partner in intensive care and high dependence ward. The standard of care is unbelievable from all doctors and nurses 70% of who are black. Anyone doubting this is welcome to accompany me on my visits.

[@ShinyMudkip914]

I hope your partner is on the road to recovery. All the best my friend! My mother in law is one of the many black nuraes/midwives working in the NHS, and I'm so proud of her every single day x

[@SPinder-qw6yg]

So you should be , give her my many many thanks.

[@hk_200k]

and that's why I feel sad for what the new conservatives have suggested.

[@alisin1dland68]

70% of Drs ? Which hospital is that , because the stats don't add up . If you have a case , don't make things up unless you need to 😂

[@ariaxrose1]

@@alisin1dland68you never got a reply 😂

[@avakholwadia1420]

Many of my family who are 4th generation south Asian born in England ( same accent as the nurse, couldn’t get more English) work for the NHS the racism and aggression has only got worse. Other members of staff sadly feel uncomfortable and stick their head in the sand because of fear of abuse themselves. The abuse against people of colour is disgusting and this has only got worse with the rhetoric the government have chosen to promote. The idea that someone would be abusive to a carer is mind boggling.

[@evolassunglasses4673]

In group preference is completely normal around the World particularly in Asia.

[@OilCanHarry2U]

@@evolassunglasses4673so that makes all ok then?

[@bigbinji6145]

could it be th other members of staff think you are a prima donna that takes exagerrated offence at the merest criticism of your skill levels perhaps ?

[@run2cat4run]

I get people online trying i not really english because im not white

[@seemymobot4987]

​@@bigbinji6145Jesus Christ, I bet you've got a ton of friends. Can't you go and be vile somewhere else? We're trying to be a bit compassionate and understanding over here

[@monicahill9741]

The set in ignorance and stupidity from racism is maddening!!! Even worse is when people not experiencing the racism say “THEY’RE sick of hearing about it, just ignore or get over it”!!! Just IMAGINE how the victims of racism FEEL RECEIVING THE HATE!!! Yet like these AWESOME callers we hold our head up with dignity and integrity we persevere!❤️

[@emiloguechoons9030]

@@Valhalla-vk7hfk and? People of colour experience more abuse because of their skin colour and that is what this discussion is about, stop trying to derail conversations about racial abuse with this "everyone receives abuse" BS, nurses sometimes receive abuse yes, but not everybody receives RACIAL abuse and racial minorities are abused more often, this behaviour needs to be dealt with

[@cavemancult1999]

@@Valhalla-vk7hf Don't use that as a dismiss of racism in the workplace.

[@rnb88brad42]

​@@Valhalla-vk7hf🙄

[@MrPiccolop]

It's called gaslighting. They play down the racism while using racism and other avenues like mental illness or sexuality to attack the object of hate.

[@cleebe823]

@@Valhalla-vk7hf would be nice if they stuck to that instead of defaulting to racism then wouldn't it.

[@ThomasKing19933]

The Tories have created an atmosphere of hatred. I feel sorry for these poor nurses having to put up with this. They don't deserve it.

[@nigelknight6688]

Got nothing to do with the Tories unfortunately there has always been horrible people like the one mentioned & there always will be

[@ThomasKing19933]

​​​@@nigelknight6688The Tories perpetuate the hatred on a daily basis.

[@sarangistudent8614]

Ah the Tory base. One thing is for sure, they’re not voting Tory next time 😂

[@evolassunglasses4673]

The Torys have gone for 1 million immigrants a year. Immigration is capitalism importing an OVER SUPPLY of labour in, which is a race to the bottom particularly for the working class. Oligarchs love immigration. Back in the day the Left understood this, even Bernie Sanders was anti immigration

[@evolassunglasses4673]

​@@nigelknight6688in group preference is completely normal around the World.

[@andrewcrowley1636]

I was a Union Rep in the NHS, the pre Brexit racism my colleagues faced was atrocious, managers in the main turned a blind eye.

[@James-ds5zq]

Because we don’t want them, this multicultural society has been forced on me and my friends and my family. If I wanted to live with Africans I would have moved to Africa

[@djfearross4144]

A positive then of leaving the EU.

[@bluecoffee8414]

Let me assure you: White healthcare workers get PLENTY of racial abuse too.

[@kateoc8]

THAT'S your takeaway from this information??? Astounding .

[@djfearross4144]

@@kateoc8 thank you

[@robbiemoore2884]

Nurses are wonderful people, but i don't think its a healthy decision to be so rude to someone working hard to keep you alive and healthy.

[@PP237PP]

Doctors too

[@remembertochangename3557]

let them get their darwin award

[@guff9567]

What kind of sweeping statement is that? Nurses designed Adolf's gas chambers

[@XLatMaths]

Interesting use of the word 'but'.

[@robbiemoore2884]

@guff9567 none of them around anymore though

[@johnsenders4156]

It just shows there is still a lot of underlying prejudice that needs to be addressed 😢

[@evolassunglasses4673]

In group preference is completely normal around the World.

[@bigbinji6145]

@@alanchilds1456 multiply by 100 , if you come out with your head still being part of your torso

[@insertname2035]

​@@alanchilds1456we don't have to go anywhere to see prejudice. We can just read your comment 😂

[@alanchilds1456]

@@insertname2035 that was so weak 🤣 😂

[@insertname2035]

​@@alanchilds1456r/whoosh

[@levbronstein-red]

Conservative voters should not be allowed to use the NHS. let them go private. It is what they want after all.

[@stephenhodgson3506]

I despise the Tories but if you are insisting that they are not allowed to use the NHS I would assume you would be happy for their taxes and NI to be reduced by the amount they would no longer have access to. You seem to be assuming that all Tories are rich which is far from the case.

[@PP237PP]

@raymondo6665 if we're doing a deep dive what about Thatcher?

[@keech100]

Even if you feel this, from a debating point of view do you really think this is valid of helps the conversation

[@FRANKIECULLEN-r3g]

@raymondo6665 your deluded defo 1 of the gammonatri taliban.

[@barryking3714]

Trouble is; the more people go over to the private sector the less consultants, doctors and nurses available to the NHS. You only have to look at dentistry now, compared to what it was twenty years ago. There shouldn't even be a private healthcare sector, anywhere; not just in the UK.

[@tinglydingle]

I'm an immigrant working for the NHS as a paramedic, and I occasionally get comments along the lines of "you're taking a job from a British person." It's as if they don't understand what "shortage" means.

[@tiapina7048]

The NHS has had a shortage of workers and so immigrants working in it for over 75 years ... The actual NHS posts adverts to recruit foreigners.

[@Wonderwoman79G]

@@tiapina7048 British born people apply for NHS posts. Foreigners do not exclusively see UK job ads.

[@tiapina7048]

@@Wonderwoman79G And?

[@andreasahulova]

They should go private!!!!

[@johnsitumbeko732]

We see the ads all over our social media feeds here in Zambia. "Work in the UK," and "Study in the UK." They really must be desperate for people if they have to show us those ads way over here. And the funny thing is that here in Zambia we have thousands of unemployed qualified health professionals who can't be absorbed into the system, not because they are not needed but because the government can't afford them. And they can't afford to travel into neighbouring countries, much less the UK. But then the very few that are able to go to the West find that they have more hurdles there.

[@raindrops21_9]

I'm Eurasian, half South Asian and half European. The percentage of times my white 'friends'/colleagues have stood by and said nothing while someone else has made racially bigoted a 'jokes' or comments would be around 99% That's how oblivious they are or acceptable it has always been to them. These doctors and nurses are right, you learn to expect it from some people, but when it's the people you work with who let it slide, it just feels worse.

[@beanHole-ek3ib]

This happens everywhere with every race don't try to make out this is a white thing . I experienced it in Asia

[@Chainbreak2023]

@@beanHole-ek3ibAsia worship and are obsessed with white skin people. You will be treated like a mini Tod over there, so I don’t believe you were treated any differently bad😮.

[@sophialefort-1414]

@@beanHole-ek3ib white supremacy racism is a white thing

[@user-li1gp2jw8k]

I hope as a woman of colour you challenge them and don't act passive about it.

[@raindrops21_9]

@@beanHole-ek3ib I was speaking about _my_ experience. No need to be defensive.

[@rafaelmartinvannostrand2084]

"He was covered in swatikas tatoos... that's a lot of bad days" got me rolling 🤣🤣🤣

[@reidycruise]

From the Ukraine problem

[@PP237PP]

@@reidycruise Russians N a Z i S too

[@JohnHollyoak-vx6pn]

Tory party candidate?

[@Miafunfactory]

Been a JOB fan from the US 🇺🇸 about a month I could watch a live stream at a dinner party with this guy Love this Guy

[@reidycruise]

@@JohnHollyoak-vx6pn who cares is the point now

[@bereal6590]

The most lovely kind efficient nurse I've come across in 13 years of being in the system due to cut snow I can't get treatment to be better, came from the Phillipines. She was surprised when I told her how nice she was how much I appreciated her card. Such a lovely lady. She had experienced workplace bullying from a superior within the nhs! I'm fed up of toxic people in this country no matter their colour or staff or patients who are ruining everything for everyone else who values those who look after us

[@Manu-Official]

My Dentist is a British born lady from Indian parents. She so lovely, so professional, very caring, extremely gentle, she has that uncanny ability to have a conversation with me, I come back 6 months later and she carries on from the exact same subject, ''so how was this and that etc'' - she is one of those true assets to the NHS.

[@GCS88]

When I had gallbladder stones, I went in 3 times to the hospital and them not findind out whats wrong with me until the last time a nurse from the Philippines was attending to me and asked me what happened to me, She then urged me to have a CT scan because She said despite the technology and education We have here We dont use it extensively, I insisted the doctors to have me scanned and only then they found out what was wrong.

[@apippin774]

I would refuse to treat a patient covered with swasticas

[@Susan-t2j1c]

That's why your definitely NOT a doctor 😂

[@ZAFYX7]

It's horrible what they have to go through. How outrageous. Thank you to our nurses.

[@sarangistudent8614]

Should just refuse to treat them and walk out.

[@dianaowusu6182]

That's the thing, you can't 😢

[@backupplan6058]

My great grandfathers had a duty too, it involved the opposite of care for anyone with that symbol.

[@GCS88]

@@Valhalla-vk7hf Yes theres the duty and from what I remember doctors and nurses in my country are subjected to swear an oath to treat anyone regardless of race, religion or creed, always thought this was a universal thing for every medical professional around the world.

[@sarangistudent8614]

Yeah well I wouldn’t call it care, what I’ve received on the nhs. Almost lost 2 children in the process. Lucky I went to medical school, eh.

[@drfunkypunk]

Bet if you walked away & treatment was refused, they'd change their tune very quickly.

[@markdavies9054]

I had a patient who demanded to be seen by an English nurse and an English doctor in Swansea,he waited a very long time.

[@thefirm4606]

Ah but we don’t have racism in this country. We’ve got a report and everything. 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@tenniskinsella7768]

We dont

[@tenniskinsella7768]

I dont. Believe LBC on anything all made up like the report York is racialist

[@Elphin89]

@palerider955didn’t those poor lad gets thousands of pounds in compensation? Wow, so tough for them

[@peterporkeresq.2817]

@@Elphin89 They were compensated for lack of racism in the country? 😅

[@lordvadertheleftie9703]

Great comment. It's a shame most won't understand the irony

[@georgecromar4094]

Historically when those of us of colour speak up about this we've been told that we have a chip on our shoulder 😂

[@ArtyFactual_Intelligence]

George....You are well entitled to have a whole sack of spuds on your shoulder and many of us are trying to deal with it. I had to go work abroad amongst the Wretched of the Earth to atone my forebears' sins.

[@chatham43]

...some do...some don't...that goes for all races I'm sure you would agree.

[@michaelwitten8570]

You are. You all are incredibly insecure about who you are. That’s why you wear all the blingy metals and buy the expensive trainers to try and compensate for your perceived shortcomings.

[@daughterofenoch677]

@george It's their way of denying their foul deeds.

[@Marleemass]

I am a black woman, a Albania man misbehaved on me quite recently, when I told a Romania colleague of mine, he said the same phrase to me. Maybe he is having a "bad day". Lol is like us black people don't have a bad day.

[@ArtyFactual_Intelligence]

Just do your job and keep your sanity.

[@Chainbreak2023]

The European service users are even worse😮

[@krob2327]

That’s awful I’m so sorry. The media don’t ever highlight racism from Eastern Europeans and they should. It’s real. There is a lot of hate thrown out by some of them and they get a free pass imo

[@b62boom1]

Here come the hate goblins to call these people liars...

[@nathanfurnival8724]

You thought she was lying as well, but you’ve disguised it in your comment 😉 I see what you did there

[@DaveSlaz]

@@nathanfurnival8724 do explain.

[@evolassunglasses4673]

In group preference is completely normal around the World.

[@Kung_Fu_Jesus]

@@nathanfurnival8724explain yourself lad

[@TheDom277]

Nathan over there is a known LBC troll account. Just point and laugh at the account. Pointless doing anything else.

[@AndysGreatestHaunts]

What is wrong with people??? This is outrageous 😮😮

[@kalimalikhel]

Being NHS doctor, it’s story of almost every day of our lives inside and outside hospitals. Some patients even refuse to talk to you because your accent is different despite they come in critical condition and you are the only one who is responsible for their urgent care. I remember when I was in Portsmouth, working as junior doctor there in October 2019 when hate and sentiments were at peak against Europeans and immigrants due to 2019 elections. I had habit to talk to my mom most of the days after job because of time difference, while walking back to my home, I was punched by some goons because I was speaking a different language. We came to UK legally, following the laws and regulations, passing UK license exams which are one of the most difficult exams in the world, competed doctors in UK in interviews to get a position and still we are struggling to be accepted. However, majority of our patients are sweet and they are grateful for what we do for them. We will remain here for the smile of those patients which we get when they are recovered and going back home.

[@leannes2179]

❤

[@tracygallagher4632]

I’m feel very sorry you had such a nasty experience. I have a lot of Zimbabwean carers helping me who’ve experienced racism in England. They’re the nicest people who dont deserve to ill-treated, nor do you.

[@benmcnutt223]

As someone who works in the nhs one of my colleagues was racially abused when i encouraged her to report it and i gave my witness statement nothing happened.

[@christinefiedor3518]

It’s actually common for reports of bullying and harassment to be reported but not acted upon and this doesn’t only happen in the NHS ! It happens in every workplace. The law against it it means jackshit.

[@daughterofenoch677]

Who did you report to and why didn't you follow it up ? The standard response is .... silence... Until you push and push and let them know you're not getting fobbed off. After which you lose your job and have to sue for unfair dismissal

[@Jenny-e4v]

Lots of prejudice in the UK. The riots exposed this country to the world

[@davidgerrard8661]

Part of this country is rotten to the core 😶

[@Dontjudge103]

Mostly old mostly brexiteers. But thankfully their days are coming to an end 😮😅😊

[@Elcore]

​@@Dontjudge103And the more doctors they refuse to see, the quicker they'll be out the way, the quicker we can clear up the mess.

[@patrickryan5570]

I love all our NHS workers no matter where they come from or what they look like.

[@everydaywinning]

I am black and I applied for a nursing degree in 2015. At that time I was working as a live in carer and got verbally and racially abused by my client. That was around clearing time for universities, that day I applied to another university and ended up doing an Accounting and Finance degree instead. Best decision I ever made!

[@gregoryevans9601]

What these ladies described is outrageous! This is 21st century Britain?? I was gobsmacked!!

[@ArtyFactual_Intelligence]

I am not surprise, but equally disgusted.

[@matt_cummins28]

Thank you for this piece, and thank you to those who called in with their experiences. Hearing their stories moved me alternatively to fury and tears in turn, the latter of which is completely pointless because it doesn't help anyone. The anger at least might lead to some change if more people were to listen to stories like this and have a similar reaction. I rely on the NHS - it's basically saved my life - and hearing some of the wonderful people who work in it, pretty much always because they simply wish to help people, relating stories like this is horrifying. Thank you, this stuff needs to be heard.

[@OperationFoxley19441]

The hospital where I work the management actively silence staff expressing concerns about racism in the NHS. But with my size and appearance patients rarely if ever dare to say anything to my face.😂😂😂

[@simonpeters3362]

I was working at a university and experienced so much racism from academics. I was once in a team meeting and my manager was denying that I had a particular qualification all because the position was going to another colleague. I am 41 and the colleague was 26. This colleague did his undergraduate degree at the university and then was given a job as an academic (no previous teaching experience or any journal publications) which always baffled me ... then the university funded his PhD which he got without any corrections within 3 years which again shocked me. Following his PhD he was then named the best lecturer at the university and given an award at the age of 26. I left that institution and I can understand how other people from other disciplines feel when there is blatantly so much disrespect and its only going to get worse.

[@emekaagbo6697]

Thanks James for giving them voice

[@cheryltelfer5472]

Thank you James❤

[@Jeannelawes]

Words fail me; listening to this

[@Daithai96]

I actually cried listening to these exchanges. I am truly ashamed of the Country that we have become, I can only have hope that we can improve.

[@BasedSaxon]

Sad that you believe her really

[@BasedSaxon]

Sad that you believe her really

[@BasedSaxon]

Sad that you believe her really

[@Daithai96]

@@BasedSaxon Which part have you spotted the real truth in?

[@BasedSaxon]

@@Daithai96 she lies with every breath

[@Jenny-e4v]

Thank you nurses and doctors. We appreciate your assistance

[@miss3v3lyn]

I had the exact same experiences, not one but many! As a “black” nurse I worked in nursing homes. I had some “white” residents refuse assistance or medication from me or “black” care assistance and when I reported this to my “white” colleagues, they would just say “Oh she’s/he’s having a bad day”, or tell me to get a “white” care assistant to assist or give the resident the medication! Some residents would actually say they don’t want to be treated by “black” nurses and some of them would actually ask “black” nurses and care assistants NOT to go in their rooms!!! Such is life, and some of us had to endure this type of treatment just because we love the job of looking after others who aren’t as healthy or young as we are.

[@peter_meyer]

There's a shortage of nurses and doctors in many countries. Germany would be happy to have them work over here.

[@teoleno4019]

I'm from Germany and the right wingers are nuts here too. I was on bus today, and two bus drivers were openly discussing how anti-immigration they are. I honestly wish I saw they name tags and reported them to their employers!

[@Kwippy]

People are like: why is the NHS full of foreigners? People are also like: me get a job working for the NHS? Yeah no thanks.

[@denisesf5]

Dr. Sarah!! Come to Canada!! We need more BRILLIANT doctors!!😀😀

[@ewenkelly6646]

I owe my life to the NHS and this makes my blood boil, how can this be still happening in 2023 , ignorance seems to be alive and well, If I ever heard such a thing I could not guarantee that I would not loose it at the perpetrator

[@jeffsimon9594]

*lose* is the word you were grasping for there

[@stanmiggins]

Brought a tear to my eye hearing this earlier. Shocking how our brave heroes are treated, thanks for speaking out about this my friend

[@daughterofenoch677]

No different to the way all non-whites are treated in the UK but doesn't seem to bother anyone unless the victim works for the NHS. Maybe Meghan would've received more public sympathy if she was an NHS nurse. Maybe Doreen Lawrence won't be fighting for justice for her son if he was an NHS doctor.

[@Anigmama]

My Mum was a nurse and looked Mediterranean but was Jamaican of the Windrush generation. It made her life easier for people to speculate that she was Maltese or South African without correcting them. As though the level of care they received would be different if they knew she was Jamaican. Such a weird British trait.

[@user-li1gp2jw8k]

The fact she never wanted to correct them goes to show how scared she felt

[@lynnd.5135]

It's a white trait not British trait. Had to correct that because poc are British too. Let's point the finger at the right people

[@ianclarke5404]

Should have wheeled him out and left in the rain

[@AT-gu8by]

If he dies, he dies!

[@chatham43]

...too true...

[@bassekaman8315]

Its amazing that James can be both surprised that black people face racism in England at the whilst having downplayed what Dianne Abbott said about the additional racism we face compared to other marginalised groups. It's like he's pretending to listen

[@GeensQuambit]

I found that astonishing. When a black woman spoke up about her lived experiences and was basically bullied into silence by white middle class liberals.

[@robertfmorton]

Sadly, much as I generally appreciate JOB and his work, I am disappointed in his attitude towards Corbyn and the Labour left. When it comes to these, he never questions, never fact checks and seems to go down the same rabbit hole as all of the tories and right wing Labour. I'm waiting for the day when it dawns on JOB that his hero, Kier Starmer has been a lying turncoat all along and will roll along with all of the tory policies.

[@majikthise7063]

@@robertfmorton Unlike Corbyn who is equally responsible for the mess we are in, who supported Brexit and wanted all the power when he could have stood aside for a GNU to stop it because his ego was too large to not be in charge. The man who called an election he knew he would loose because he alienated the swing and made the right of the Party not vote. Shame the Labour Left hasn't learnt that lesson in 70 years and would rather complain and not be in power then be in power and fix things.

[@sgw8903]

@@robertfmorton I enjoy the benefits of his analysis on most topics. But on class or religion he is still just another posh little schoolboy. Like most "liberals" he just wants to make things a little fairer. Just fair enough to salve their consciences, but not so fair as to risk the privilege's they wish their children to inherit..

[@chatham43]

...if Dianne Abbott is required to bolster your argument you really are struggling....😂

[@SurrealEdifice]

This is a perfect exemplification of the paradox of tolerance. In an effort to extend tolerance to the intolerant, one has to rescind tolerance for the victims of the persons intolerance

[@Cairyhunt87]

I saw online somewhere, i can’t remember who to credit it to, but they said something along the lines of “tolerance is best seen as a social contact, by being tolerant you subscribe to the contract, by being intolerant you break the contract and are therefore no longer worthy of being tolerated.” That way there is no paradox, the intolerant person isn’t abiding by the rules, so they can’t expect to be protected by them.

[@naijaman6639]

​@@Cairyhunt87Not in the UK in 2023. It's all about rights and zero responsibility.

[@thepalequeenkitty4595]

I have witnessed this happening in the hospital while I was there. I have apologised for the behaviour of others quietly. Before my heart problems I had a temper. Is might have been handled differently. Thank you James, for your intelligent input per usual. 💜🤓

[@pjakobsson126]

I am a live in carer for the elderly and that generation are absolutely toxic....I am white, middle class, but am demeaned, belittled on a daily basis....I understand how the lady feels about the accumulation, I actually felt that I shouldn't be alive on the planet, because they deride and say hurtful things again and again...

[@Kashish4Eijaz]

So sorry to hear your experience. I often wonder what makes them behave this way? Is it contempt for their own children that makes them judge the rest in the same manner? I wonder....

[@pjakobsson126]

@@Kashish4Eijaz Thank you for your empathy...I have looked after hundreds of elderly people in their homes and I almost believe that there are invisible forces at work, as many elderly people have split personalities, they can change in an instant into another "person", there are many phenomenon with the aging and dying process

[@jennifercampbell-klomps5549]

Why is it that when Black people talk about racism - people like you choose to insert yourself as the victim? One of the caller was called the “N” word. You need to listen very carefully, take time out to absorb the information and learn about the trials and tribulations of working whilst Black in the medical profession. It’s called racism.

[@platonkarataev550]

I really appreciate what you do! Please be proud! I couldn't ever be a carer for someone who didn't appreciate me, I'd be off straight away! Bless you ❤️

[@ataurusqueenofzion916]

And they play victim when you tell them off.

[@PaulEleftheriou-b3e]

This is tragic and disturbing!!!

[@premkhan3969]

As a health professional, a patient threatened to set me on fire and my family became I refused to say he had a disability for his benefit form. He didn’t have a disability and I refused to engage in this conversation once I explained my assessment of him. He became really angry and I had to call the police. Anger issues isn’t a disability for him to claim benefits! Sorry!

[@vietashroffoliver2521]

Well done, very courageous to stand up to the patient

[@premkhan3969]

@@vietashroffoliver2521 thank you

[@lpmlearning2964]

@@premkhan3969Was it for anger issues that he requested the form?

[@premkhan3969]

@@lpmlearning2964 yes.

[@peterl5804]

Absolutely right, racism is a daily occurrence. Usually patients against staff but also staff on staff. It is difficult to react to it robustly because as a doctor I would like to throw those patients out but I am not allowed to.

[@sabinagoldsmith9020]

I find it utterly disgusting that a doctor and I don't care where you come from is subjected to this kind of behaviour . You an 11:53 d all your colleagues need to report this . WEEKLY and keep on reporting and logging so a detailed record can be built up. Something has to be done. This is inhuman,cruel AND ignorant. None of which can be excused!!

[@MichelleBlessing]

I'm Irish I worked for 10 years in London. I left in 2007 and this I your face racism, prejudice and 'nationalism' was getting bad them. It was always there but began to really kick in then. I felt the UK was closing down to 'others'.

[@garyfryer5334]

Well im English and remember the 70s and 80s when your compatriots were blowing us to smithereens...So i say you got off lightly!

[@normanclark933]

Didn't the Tories instigate an OFFICIAL 'Hostile Environment'?

[@MichelleBlessing]

@garyfryer5334 if youre going to go down tgag path, we could go back further than that....ever read up what your compatriots, the black and tans did, btw I was Church of Ireland.

[@MichelleBlessing]

@garyfryer5334 I worked for Whetherspoos during Uni and I was actually accused by a pundit there, of bombing Canary Wharf......

[@chatham43]

...ten years in London didn't improve your grammar...😊

[@jtraining295]

Do not forget the racism many of those windrush nurses Faced in the 50s things don't change ay

[@kitglare8800]

I employed many nurses in long-term care, in South east you were less likely to employ RN's of colour but I remember a fabulous nurse who had an extraordinary ability to touch all her patients with hope and kindness - I also had patients who were prejudiced but with multiple co-comorbidities desperately in need of the best care, some refused to be treated by 'Sara', I had a duty of care to my patients but I would not tolerate racism - rock and a hard place

[@liam.4454]

I work in care and people need to accept that sometimes vulnerable people are uncomfortable around other cultures

[@mixedhairless]

Thank you for having this discussion. It’s long overdue

[@paulbird3235]

Murdoch and his news media is responsible for much of this HATRED. 😒😒😒.........

[@justingraham2459]

Sending love to these wonderful health prprofessionals, respect x

[@A.Deen-ul-Islam]

This makes me want to cry . We need more voices heard ,and taken seriously.. least that can be done. We need to find more ways.

[@iforwilliams2509]

People who are abusive to health care workers or having abusive tatoos shoud be refused treatment. We are too soft with thugs in society.

[@zannahmartell9813]

Absolutely not! Let them have the lingering memories of being saved and in need of help from a person they have invested so much time in hating.

[@Badgerbeard]

My respect and thanks to all employees in the NHS. Please, Please don't let the bu****rs grind you down.

[@pamelaadam9207]

My colleague the only back member of staff in our non nursing department faces this every day in the way some of the insular nursing staff treat her. Where we are it has been a mainly homogeneous population with anyone non white being from the university or oil industry and not a permanent resident, things are changing sadly some of the locals are slow to welcome this

[@evolassunglasses4673]

Why would anyone welcome their own demographic replacement?

[@plunder1956]

I've been in hospital a lot over the last seven years, So As a patient you do see some odd events. It can be horrible being in hospital, but its usually the nurses that keep you alive and help you recover. At least four nurses and four doctors have saved my life - I clearly remember all of them as individuals. I wish I could go back and thank them, but it is seldom possible. Where else in life do you get that situation? It is a very emotional memory for me.

[@MrCsifan55]

James, when you asked one of the Doctors "how do you get back up again?" You don't as they didn'tbring you down to begin with. You just climb higher.

[@uchlisters2430]

Exactly I saw that, James you are part of the problem, they are not victims and you don’t need to speak to them in a condescending manner, saying banal anecdotes and foolish analogies. Very pretentious. To all those health workers, don’t take a gift you do not want, that is the secret, they have brought the gift of hate, leave it with them. Come together and refuse to work in an unsafe environment!

[@So-vc7yg]

Worked in the NHS for 11 years. We had a patient that had lived in America most his adult life. He's come in raging about 1 thing or another, everyone would bend over backwards accommodating him , he'd shout at staff in the corridors, how he doesn't want anyone 'that colour' refused asian and black staff and would ramble on about how he felt about these groups of people with so much hate and aggression . My manager at the time was a white Irish lady and it was like she liked the fact that he would only speak to her with respect. Was sickening to witness.

[@markrhoden68]

Yep heard it on numerous occasions 😢

[@lisaf7909]

I've seen this a lot in a care home with my overseas colleagues. I don't hesitate to firmly but politely make it known that racism will not be tolerated but it continues and I feel for RN's Dr's, HCA's who deal with this and are pretty much told they have to accept it.

[@shiftylad9938]

My wife is a psychiatric nurse, and the abuse given to the Indian nurses that work with her is unreal. When my wife said to one in particular, to reign it in and apologize, the patient did. After the incident, her boss above her warned her on the sly,to not say anything again as the patient can put a complaint in about her, and it would need to be investigated, as the patient is a sick person. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@monicanath4859]

😮😮! Thank you for your kindness 🙏🏼!

[@matthewjames1114]

They should've kept Harold Shipman on.

[@richardctaylor79]

The funny thing is I'm a Student Nurse/Former Healthcare Assistant and I've seen this sort of thing happen on occasion but to have no support from fellow staff members is ridiculous. The whole NHS needs looking at, and from the TOP DOWN. To be brutally honest the worst offenders are those sitting atop their ivory towers thinking they run the show, but without the thousands of Nurses, Support Staff (Porters/Catering/Cleaners), Junior Doctors etc from ALL countries this NHS would've collapsed during Covid.

[@a6703]

Always confront & correct people even on behalf of someone else being abused!

[@kellyvaters1689]

Were it up to me, he'd be given three chances to answer the doctor's questions, and on the third refusal or silent treatment he'd be released without treatment.

[@kaalmachannel2707]

I live in uk work in the NHS. I never understood where this aggression comes from!😮 I’m black Muslim nurse and it made me miserable to be antagonised in a daily basis.

[@haileys5371]

Seems it's worse in Britain than even the US.

[@kash5741]

I really like listening to your show James. Your listening style of conversation and psychological exploration humanises every subject.

[@jaysen704]

Institutional racism is very prevalent

[@wduprevil]

People would not believe how crazy unkind some folks can be. I've experienced it when I was a new nurse. And no it's not in my head

[@chazwyman8951]

Daily abuse must lead to super sensitivity, and paranoia. What an awful state to have to live in. This is such an embarrassment for the human race to put someone through that, especially those dedicated to helping people.

[@lynnd.5135]

Why human race? All these stories point to one group of people. Why are we generalising instead of being direct?

[@tomjames8493]

Will love the NHS my entire life. I’m 30 and they’ve saved my life once. But it needs backing, they’re trying to convince us it doesn’t work by underfunding it

[@SoniaNisar-m6z]

Racism is every sector now. I noticed in my work place and planning to move out from UK. Although born, qualified here

[@Jenny-e4v]

Thank you, James, for highlighting this issue

[@AkiraTwin]

A lagoon you know.....in Luton. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Hilarious.

[@asherbrown7637]

Yes. Thank you idea. It's so sad to hear, I experienced similar refusals and comments or questions as a carer, it was a shock to the system everytime I can't lie.