NIANTIC SAYS "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" With Remote Raid Pass Nerf!! They still don't get it...

Recently, Michael Steranka gave a few remarks to DotEsports regarding the Remote Raid Pass nerf, and stated their goals for that nerf were achieved. I personally think that they still missed the whole point on why Pokémon GO players were so upset about the nerf. Let's talk about this.
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[@dork_3nergy]

If they honestly think nerfing these was an 'accomplishment', then this video is a clear example of the community saying the opposite.

[@Bruce-kx5ku]

looks like they only care about trans people and ukraine

[@IntelligentFlame]

Whatever Niantic uses as a metric for success, it's definitely not public perception or player enjoyment

[@Bruce-kx5ku]

they only care about tra ns (avatar) and ukra ine (banned pogo in russia)

[@Bruce-kx5ku]

@@IntelligentFlame their metric is called ESG globalist score

[@maranatha9924]

I started playing last July after the remote raid changes and I think the current system is great. It financially disincentivizes people from spamming raids and it keeps shinys rare. I still do not know what it was like before, but as a new player I think it is in a good spot.

[@DeadEyeFoxx]

For god sake, this has nothing to do with getting out and "exploring." News flash! Niantic lied 🙄 You can narrow down the remote raid nerf to two simple words: Location data. Anything else they tell you is just rhetoric.

[@LATownsRS]

That’s why elite raids are still a thing.. ffs

[@TreFKennedy]

9:44 I’m only 3.9 million XP away from level 50, after i hit level 50 and go feast, I’m going back into Exile F🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️K Steranka and John Hanke , F🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️king bastards

[@frederickdawson2253]

My nearest HotSpot is 2-3 hrs away... They just wanted more money.. There are differnt ways to get the same effect... They couldve placed more incentives for inperson... It littearly about the money because if theyu were 100% on their vision on the game they wouldve took remote raiding out entirely.. They limited and raised the prices of it.. Idk know the game designer but do know that this an idiotic short term (we save the city by destroying the city) situation... Im getting tired of Game Devs cring about "Their VISION".. I understand what you wanted when the game came out but times changed... If you dont adapt you die and the truth is the game is dying because they are refusing to adapt

[@famousashtray]

Lmao!! 😂 Niantic is so tone def! Where are you from Count? My towns in person raid scene is pretty dead. On a side note I hatched a shiny Larvesta from a 2k yesterday so I’m happy about that at least.

[@famousashtray]

I don’t think anyone from a large city can fairly comment about the health of in person raids.

[@spoon8142]

Congratulations on shiny!

[@famousashtray]

@@spoon8142 it was just the 4th larvesta I got from this event so I count myself pretty lucky.

[@spoon8142]

@@famousashtray absolutely! I've hatched 2 during the event, but only shiny I've gotten out of is the zigzagoon, community day one😅

[@BecauseBen]

The remote raid nerf really killed my local community and it's very rare to have someone outside to raid with me. I only did raids because I had a second phone until the visual update made my second phone no longer work with Go. Now I don't go outside to raid at all because what's the point when very rarely my invites get accepted. Which is annoying since I really wanted to raid Mega Pidgeots and Mega Charizards recently.

[@joshberg307]

I started playing hard in March of 2021 to allow me to get competitive pokemon for the main series specifically, thundurus, landorus, and tornadus as i needed a better thundurus but i never got the hundo. I connected with a community in Mississippi and conneticutt that are connected through reddit. Because of the raid pass nerf, we really dont raid together all that much. Yah thats when i was playing like crazy. I always played the game but i was around like level 30 something. I hit level 40 in the summer of that year

[@anthonypitiol2503]

If their intended affect was to lose revenue -> fire a bunch of their staff -> release a bunch of glitchy updates -> put a bunch of features behind paywalls -> and destroy a whole aspect of their game... Well they succeeded in that 😂

[@kipp14]

If they did the rediscover pokemon go style of revamp along with the nerf would have been a balanced approach and blunted the fallout a tiny bit. The fact that it's taken them a year to start testing things like ex raids again is disappointing and compounded the bad feelings around nerfs in general. Outside go fest and tours there's zero reason to buy remote passes most of the year. I've done 2 remotes all year, one for t-tar and one for what turned out to be my 100% yvetal. I personally find it more problematic that testing these things are taking months to plan and just as long to put out to the player base. We should be on v2 of ex raids already. If the raid paradigm doesn't improve by the tour next year there's going to be a massive revenue problem going forward.

[@Miklo_1]

Michael S. needs to advocate for us. It’s a bad look to be so negative towards us

[@TomPlaysPoGo]

Well please, let Stirwanker & Hanke travel over to my neck of the woods. I can’t promise they’ll return alive however

[@brianfoust1216]

Can't wait to watch this video after work lol I saw the title and Immediately hit watch later

[@jonasanderson9413]

Mannn I have a newborn and cannot just wander around to all the gyms 😭 I jus want that shiny moltres 😔

[@kidvapor1]

If they really wanted people to get out they would make raids in person only, they can obviously do that since elite raids exist.

[@BillGreene-t9g]

I enjoy your videos As for my girlfriend and I. We still do the same amount of in person raids as we did before. We have a couple other couples that have joined in to our group, but I think they would’ve joined either way. As far as remote rates, we used to sit down in the evening after dinner and do several remotes. now we sit down and watch a little bit of TV. We used to spend $150-$200 a month. Now it’s probably closer to $100-$150 a year. So at the end of the day, it has saved us money.

[@jacobreynolds1451]

Making remote passes a reward for doing routes or doing party challenges i think could fix this

[@joeberns9668]

Bummer I started june 6th and have walked 180km loved pokemon since 2001. My dad runs marathons so was easy to get him into it lol we can two man 3 star raids but 5 star mega raids and legendaries feel like an empty dream. Guess have to stick with Tera raids on scarlet or battle towers on 3DS.. havent seen a single random person in a raid lobby yet..

[@doublecomplex4741]

IMO They should have announced that they were going to remove remote raids. Whether they actually did that or not wouldn’t matter bc it would have made the nerf easier to bear.

[@Lulu-xl5cm]

I'm so glad my neighboorhood still has a big community and meets up for wednesday raid hour

[@AwfullyFrosty]

As someone who has quit the game entirely because of living in a rural area with no community for pokemon go and the changes basically making it a dead game for me. Hearing this is more than disappointing its just down right an insult. I'm glad this was in my recommended cause i was missing the game but after hearing this is still have no intention of playing ever again unfortunately. I wish you all the the best of iv's and shinnies for those who are still playing!

[@bloodcycleOZero]

They aren't going to change it because we ask for it, but if we complain in droves to the pokemon company nonstop something might get done? But idk if that is a good idea either though

[@princeofhyrule2205]

My local community collapsed after the remote raid nerf. It was so hard to get players to coordinate showing up to raids. However, my local community would happily assist remotely if a community member was willing to invite to a raid. There were still players who came in person to raid hours, but several community members just joined remotely. Since our local gyms are spread out, cars are required to reach them in any reasonable amount of time. As such, it is difficult coordinating a whole car procession to gyms for raid hours. It was much easier for players to just assist remotely. Anyway, the former local community that had been going since the start died after the remote raid nerf. All of the leaders stopped playing and the lack of leadership led to the dissolving of the whole community. I have been desperately trying to revitalize the community through campfire. While it has been growing slowly, it is a hollow shell of what it used to be. My community still only meets up for raid days or raid hours. There is no longer any coordination of just random raids that pop up throughout the week. My local community still has not recovered from the remote raid pass nerf. So many community veterans have completely quit in my local community

[@hawkeye3938]

Cry some more buddy. Get a joystick and spoof since you cry about it so mucb

[@basillah7650]

raid hour should just be removed at terrible time and makes hosting raids harder because massive que to host even before remote nerf

[@Octorocker743]

I hate the implication that people are too lazy to go out and walk around. People have jobs, school, and families to take care of, and there are so many people with disabilities who would need to remote raid. More accessible remote raids would mean more people have incentives to host raids in person too. I would argue it’s actually against the original mission to make the remote passes so expensive

[@Snow-Willow]

Agree with this 100%, especially the families bit. It's just not feasible for me to play as much as I want because I have to tote a 5 and 1 year old around whenever I do, and they don't want to sit still for that long, or they want to be playing at the park where I'm going for community and I have to focus on them and making sure they are safe instead of playing the game.

[@tufungagreen5571]

Exactly these privileged fools don't get this

[@The_Cherokee_Gypsy]

@@Snow-WillowOh I completely agree! Me and my husband (33 and 34) have a 17 month old, and when we can’t go outside we ride around and play and he doesn’t do too well sitting in his car seat for too long with the stopping and going. Every time we stop he starts whining, so we have to constantly be moving in the car which isn’t the easier, not to mention traffic and other people trying to get to where they’re going. I’m gonna get a sticker that says “This vehicle stops frequently for Pokémon go” so people know to move the hell around and continue on with their business! Can’t stand it when everywhere we drive, even in a neighborhood we’re trying to drive slow and get spawns then BOOM a car comes out of nowhere on our ass so we pull over and let them go around! It’s so frustrating! You can cover more ground in the car when it comes to hatching eggs instead of walking. Playing in the car we get more shinies too because we cover a lot more ground.

[@ktbxnightmar4755]

I personally don't always have time due to my 2 jobs my kiddo and my girlfriend so I use remote raids if possible

[@beckajean]

and a lot of us are adults who have been playing pokemon since the 90s. that’s completely irrelevant to them.

[@mrmoose6619]

Honestly, whomever made this decision needs to spend a few weeks in a rural area and see how the game doesn't play the way it does like it does in San Francisco to understand why Remote Raiding really helps the game out and gets more people playing.

[@IntelligentFlame]

I moved to a rural area in 2021 and for a while it completely killed my will to even open the game. The updated spawns made it a little more engaging but the closest stops are at a nearby state-run lake and I prefer to not have ticks all over me (already caught Lyme disease TWICE)

[@hawkeye3938]

Cry some more bud. Who cares about the rural community. Create an alt or get some friends to play.

[@iluvwelfarechecks2981]

@@hawkeye3938least obvious troll

[@hawkeye3938]

@@iluvwelfarechecks2981 plus. The community can’t decide if Nia tic is hurting for money or not. At first, they charge too much and only care about money but when they limit their money maker (which I think everyone can agree, remote raids were), they’re being stipid and it’s an unheard of idea it’s hard to sympathize with people. It’s an ever moving goal post that the company has to set standards on. What you think the game should be is different from what I think it should be, hence why Nia tic will do what they think since they’ll cater the game to their liking and not some randos

[@iluvwelfarechecks2981]

@@hawkeye3938 Niantic definitely wants to replicate the remote raid pass profits. Look how heavily they’re at pushing timed research tickets and the egg events. Also these “randos” are the ones playing and supporting the game. Don’t know why you have such bad stigma for rural players who just want to have a good time like everyone else. If Niantic continues to push their ideas without concern of the community, the game will continue to bleed players.

[@Diadas66]

They really will never get it, they are missing a huge thing a happy player base is a player base that will be more agreeable to future things, niantic will just not listen

[@hawkeye3938]

False. They increase remote raids, the fan base will find anew complaint like pricing. Pricing is something that should remain the same considering it is a convenience to the user experience. I think everyone has to be realistic, the best thing for niantic to do is make the game tailored to their liking and not the communities. Otherwise, nothing would be fixed or worked on because the community will nitpick on every change whether you want to or not.

[@MarkyMark79]

@@hawkeye3938 Of course the community will nitpick but it's because Niantic continues to screw up pretty much everything they try to do with the game. If Niantic actually stopped and listened to the player base (for once) they might realize they actually had something pretty good going for them in regards to remote raids. Sure, it only happened because of the pandemic, but so what? They did something right with remote raids and it was very successful, and especially for those in rural areas that previously had difficulty in doing raids. But instead of leaving a good thing alone, they decided to change it and annoy everyone instead. Niantic seems determined to recreate what they had prior to the pandemic as far as the local communities went, but it was NEVER going to happen. My local community hasn't come back. I never did many remote raids anyways but I depended on sending out invites to be able to do legendary raids. Now, I rarely bother doing any raids and never legendaries anymore. I don't play nearly as much as I used to and wouldn't be surprised if I just stop playing entirely at some point in the near future. The only way Niantic can honestly say "mission accomplished" is if Niantic is intentionally going out of their way in trying to kill the game any way they can.

[@Rejii16]

@@hawkeye3938the community makes the game. The game is dying because they are disconnected from the reality that the player base resides in.

[@angeladebeltz1903]

I work overnights. I’d raid with overseas players throughout the night; until raid nerf. We have no local community to raid with. The nerf has saved me a ton of money. 😂

[@1soonerrf5]

👏🏼

[@BigT5]

Same here.

[@ZebstrikaGirl]

Agreed! I live in a mid size city and the community is gone now

[@Mama_of_a_dragon]

I'm still salty about it tbh, its kinda ruined the game for me, I still play but not as much and I rarely do in person raids - there just aren't enough players in my community, so I miss out on a lot, ex raids for instance and in person raid exclusives.

[@hawkeye3938]

For you…I’m indifferent to it. Limit remote raids is great as it requires people to do raids with others. Price increase makes sense because remote raiding is a convenience.

[@demmusicvideo1552]

I think I am also still salty since I just searched to see it’s affect over a year later. And yay I agree with you

[@DeathSniper4201]

I honestly haven’t seen more raiders in person… since the nerf to raiding I’ve seen nothing but an increase in spoofers.. have they done anything about spoofing? No. So if we chose to spend money on remote raid passes or “pay to win” imo what’s the harm if it brings them money and we’re not spoofing like a huge amount of the player base that I see now.

[@verxw74]

Well, they just stopped the pc spoofing and has that whole community pissed

[@zoroproductions1152]

@@verxw74 yes, location tethering now is blocked and show error 12

[@KevPoGo]

​@verxw74 dude I'm literally spoofing right now

[@TheShockwave114]

Yeah spoofing got hit hard a few weeks ago but it'll come back

[@noesoto6954]

I wonder why Niantic has not made Go Battle League “in person only”, after all their main focus is to have people go out, explore and meet other trainers.

[@TreFKennedy]

Nailed it lol

[@mrmoose6619]

They used to at least somewhat at the beginning... you had to walk 1k to do a set after the first.

[@jacopoercopernico]

I spent 4 months living in Tokyo and started playing Pokémon go again after stopping for 7 and half years (literally played one month when it first came out) because I saw that everyone was playing the game on the streets. I actually enjoyed it so much, joined many in person events, met so many Japanese people and made some friends. Recently I came back to my small city in my country and I knew that the situation would have been different but, oh my god, the game is unplayable. In some areas there’s a huge lack of poke stops, making it literally impossible to get the basic resources and of course, no one ever raids, it’s always me and my 2 other devices beating 5* raids, never seen anyone else doing any kind of raids in 3 weeks I spent here. I think raids are the cool thing about pogo, the thing that gives you dopamine after you beat it and you wish for a 100iv or a shiny. Without this mechanic the game feels dead tbh.

[@Polaroxide]

Should have never stopped

[@Djspitsfacts]

I think they should change the way raids work, it would help rural players if they are able to go to a gym and join a raid but instead of a local lobby you are able to join like a global lobby and still use your normal raid passes

[@VQuinn-he9rv]

This is a great idea so it likely won’t be implemented

[@matt3608]

Does niantic not like money ?? The remote raiding is nothing but money in the bank for them

[@Silvery1313]

I went out MORE with remote raid passes. There has not been any increase in in person raids here, all raiding has just dropped off. I never see anybody doing the raids in my neighborhood on Wed nights anymore. Our local community has definitely shrunk, not grown. I now play by setting my phone upside down so the battery screen saver kicks in and let GPS drift hatch my eggs. I don't know why I'm playing, these last two events have been horrible.

[@ThomasThe3rd44]

Ever since they changed it the hype for me personally fainted and about a few months later I completely stopped. Raiding was a big part for me especially in a mor rural area

[@cynderkiryah1215]

What mission accomplished, as in trying to kill the game, and making a bunch of people leave? Would like to see Mega Lucario come out before it dies at least.

[@spoon8142]

Remote raiding did make it easier to participate. For instance, everyone has different schedules, so, I could be at work and get an invite while on break and participate, then, in the evening provide the same opportunity to friends working second shift. Friends who r more casual players that don't participate enough to get involved or look for community, easier to send invites especially during raid hour and they live in another time zone, not to mention rural and disabled players. Some of us still actively GO, daily all the time. All niantic did by nerfing it was upsetting the more hardcore players and losing the more casual players. If that was what they hoped to achieve, mission accomplished

[@clue942]

I live in a major city and just went to a rural city for vacation. I clearly see the difference. In 4 days I could only do three 5* raids because they were so far spread out. Not to mention the lack of pokestops. The game was virtually unplayable. Remote raid passes are cruicial to enjoy that aspect of the game in those areas

[@hawkeye3938]

Gps joystick for android or iMac tools for Apple. That solves the tired argument of rural players. Otherwise they should kick rocks and see grass grow

[@The_Cherokee_Gypsy]

@@hawkeye3938That’s spoofing and now your not able to do that anymore

[@basillah7650]

@@hawkeye3938 spoofing on apple gives ban nice trolling

[@Zibi21]

@@hawkeye3938 without rooted phone you wont be able to spoof otherwise I would have already did that to raid.

[@hawkeye3938]

@@Zibi21 yeah I saw. They cracked down on computer spoofing tools like Anygo and similar other. Confirmed by their Customer Rep team. I mean there’s rooted phone to buy anyways. Google Pixel ftw

[@TheJavie06]

Sounds like they are enjoying eating an onion thinking it's an apple.

[@alightinthesky7586]

one idea to save local raids is to remove the timer, let people join for the duration of the raid timer and when people want to start they can click ready and go

[@chandlera326]

How do you do that ?

[@Cluckenstein]

I think raid power needs a huge overhaul, such as scaling the boss down to match the amount of players. Maybe instead of 50k cp for a legendary, it's only 20k if there's only one player. When it's beaten, it becomes a lower level too to make sure it's not a strategy to just cheese a raid boss. So maybe if there's one player instead of level 20 or 25, the boss goes down to level 5 or 10.. As long as a new player (under level 30-32) can't solo the boss I don't see much of an issue. Legendaries are already dirt common and not anything special anymore in all honesty, getting more people just allows you to save candies and stardust from powering it up.

[@huyiii2435]

That way you can get various legendaries into the great league

[@alightinthesky7586]

the solution is not remote raids, all should be around GO aspect even if doing remote, for example special raid where the are a mix of local and remote, you still need to go out but can go to special places to do local "remote" raids as if special Raid/gyms are linked around the world, rare but would fill up crazy with people from around the world while still everyone having to go out.

[@VQuinn-he9rv]

Yeah I like this idea. honestly I play this game because of the go aspect and don’t really want to remote raid so doesn’t ffect me as much, but I can’t find others to raid in person with so I’ve been using poke genie etc. and can’t do the shadow legendaries. however with an idea like yours where remote raids required going to a gym or pokestop or even walking a certain distance, Niantic would achieve it’s stated goals and many more people would have accsss

[@shiny_hunterongo]

I get that ninatic wants us to go out but what if you have no gyms remote raids are your only answer but then they nerfed them and ruined it for people who live in rural areas

[@scoogyskoogz1869]

A lot of pre remote raid players like me are coming back to play and are enjoying the game it’s not a “nerf” it’s a “revert” they couldn’t have made it more clear to player from the very start. REMOTE RAIDS WERE ONLY TEMPORARY DUE TO LOCKDOWNS! at this point their just weening out all the players they spoiled that still expect to get everything from sitting at work or at home…….get over it already niantic is doing just fine it’s not their fault you spammed remote raids and burned the game out for yourselves

[@Majorox]

Man, i just started playing like a week or so ago, and have only attempted one raid. But hearing about the nerf is pretty upsetting, especially with me living far away from anything.

[@michaelbreaks331]

For those saying the game is about going out and exploring and being with your community has it ever occurred that you can do both and enjoy both? I walk on average 70-75km a week when possible (weather permitting, no other important things to take care of, etc). I like hanging with my friends and remote raiding when it best suits me. Even before nerf I was out as much as possible and saw my community in person more. Nowadays, I barely see anyone in my community despite my attempts to get people and I cant get anyone to raid regardless if they are local or not. Its a massive struggle.

[@krmon1992]

Honestly, nerfing the remote raid pass at the start is not okay, but as time goes on me and my friends started to do the raids the old way and enjoyed walking to different places and raiding. Remote raid made us lazy that’s all. Lol

[@slydog8011]

Nice. It's not like the rest of us have as much free time as you and your friends do. 😂 .

[@krmon1992]

@@slydog8011 we have jobs, we do raids after work hours. Lol

[@tufungagreen5571]

​@@krmon1992must be a pretty nice job to finish so early to even find raids after hours

[@krmon1992]

@@tufungagreen5571 well, we live in the Philippines, we out at 5pm and here most of the raids starts at 5pm onwards and on Wednesday, raid hours starts at 6pm to 7pm, we hang out with our friends and colleagues often because we don’t have family & kids yet. Nice job? A good paying job yes, but nice idk. Lol

[@TreFKennedy]

5:40 you say “Laser Focus “ i say they’re being overtly spiteful Count

[@UldisCrystal]

For me, It is 100% IV Hunt and I go hardcore. For example Pikachu, I hunt both sexes in each Pokeball category and size, then purified, lucky, shiny, etc xD. But I hate Remote raid nerf, it is much harder to do T5 raids. During gold Remote raid pass days I could do 1-2 raids daily now it is 2-3 raids a week.

[@Puffarella]

I really enjoyed the remote raiding. Made a ton of great friends from all over. But now since the price increases and cap. I've pretty much stopped raiding completely. So sad. Very disappointed.

[@dw4270]

I started playing 8 months ago. I have never put money into the game. I have never done a remote raid. I love the game. I love my shiny gengar.

[@Danton1990]

You've missed Niantic's entire reason for doing what they did. Niantic doesn't care about Pokémon, they don't necessarily even care about Pokémon Go's profits. Niantic is a location data gathering company. Pokémon Go was made to gather location data from it's users from playing and scanning and submitting points of interests. Niantic created a workforce of unpaid cartographers all over the planet literally mapping out the world for them. What actually decreased when remote raid passes were introduced is their amount of location data coming in and that’s why it had to be stopped. their statement saying that their change to remote raid passes have given the intended resolution has to be in relation to that location data starting to come back in strong. Freaking shame.

[@theburger_king]

Why do they care so much? The nerf is literally loosing them money because you can’t buy more than like 3 a day. Niantic is a company, they’re whole goal is to make money

[@Miklo_1]

You are right, they just want our DATA. Go outside so we can collect your DATA!

[@crayzmusic]

Crazy. They killed multiple communities including mine along with people who used to play a lot stop playing... Also me.,.. crazy they just keep going

[@nova_9812]

This statement is the perfect example to the fact that they in fact don't understand the community

[@demmusicvideo1552]

I actually stopped playing for 3 months since I enjoyed raiding so much and remote raid was the best way to reach friends and people I don’t see often. It’s too bad. I came back to play but mostly on com day… or go fest… that’s it. I am not motivated to play the game as much. So yeah it impacted my playing which does include friends I used to play with. They also have been playing less or quit since that nerf.

[@alisyed7659]

There are human beings that live in rural areas and can't raid. 5 Star Shadow Raid, No Remote Raid ruined the Game. Shadow Mewtwo, Mega Rayquaza basically dangling the Pokemon in front of sad players unable to raid.

[@ecornely]

There are players like me who never had the opportunity to have remote raid passes before the nerf and I find them quite useful to keep an interest in the game. I can only imagine how great it was before. Without raid passes, I wouldn't be playing the game at all. I have no community and spend most of my time playing when I travel from a point to another (alone) so how would I encounter other players ? If they want us to create communities, they should create things that would encourage us to go to a certain spot like the elite raid but much more frequent and at random gyms/pokestop or something like that so at least we could meet other pogo players IRL but I don't even know where to go to meet others. I play in a rural area and in my friends list, the closest friend I have is my brother living 1 hour of drive from me. They should simplify the way you can enter in contact with people having a pokemon defending the same gym (at least it means you passed both at the same spot sometime). The only campfire group close to me has 180 members and I think 2 or 3 messages have been posted the last 6 months without a lot of answer if any. What a community !

[@TreFKennedy]

7:49 i don’t believe anything Steranka says regarding the remote raid community Count, everytime RRP are mentioned he’s always has a inveighing and condescending tone

[@ThatGuy-cb3yv]

Two gyms in a 5 mile radius. Its often weeks before someone else takes one over but I'm supposed to meet people there to raid?! That logic is dumb.

[@EbiLMunkeY]

Niantic: *nukes their own community* “Mission accomplished”

[@danieleconvertini4996]

helldivers style🤓🫡

[@ghostwolf1435]

I’m still loving it I don’t need to raid every day so I’ve adjusted my play style accordingly Hatching Eggs Building PVP Teams

[@joshuathelycanskunk2890]

I mainly still play Pokemon go because I like going out with my friends and doing raid battles and shiny hunting, also playing events like community days keeps me up to date on Pokemon go.

[@ariesstorm9577]

I haven’t seen an increase in players for local raids (making some shadow raids absolutely pointless in my area). The greatest thing with the remote raids was being able to raid with people on my friends list from other countries, where they could be hosting raids for Pokemon that are region locked. Rural areas simply won’t be able to compete in elite raids and will miss out on the upcoming mega Rayquaza raids. But I still play because I made a second account a couple of years ago on a spare phone so I’m able to do most raids by myself, but that isn’t the case for a lot of Pokemon go players.

[@charlesconfino165]

These executives are so out of touch. They think life is like a Friends style sitcom where nobody has to work more than 4 hours a week or have any other obligations. The simplest solution was to give more incentive to raid locally (more candy, stardust, rewards, etc than remote raids) and I think a huge boost to player friendships if you raid together would have encouraged in person raiding a lot more than remote pass nerfs. What we have now is just pay to win and encourages players to spoof instead of going through the trouble

[@CountJinsulaOfficial]

Remember, they said they are designing the game around "Singaporean grandmas" 🤣

[@DamienMocata]

Community leader here in Northern Ireland and the nerf ruined our community. Experienced players don’t come out, new players just spend extra money on remotes even when it’s trash raids, and frankly I only play the game out of habit now. I feel if Niantic had implemented one of the nerfs alongside a buff (like the guaranteed XL candy) at the same time that a larger number of community members would have taken the nerf more gracefully. Instead, our community collapsed (cause we can’t play with people in the rest of the UK, let alone world wide) and the whales keep playing as they spend regardless.

[@gund2281]

So they actually WANT fewer players? I don't think they realize what a barrier to entry the raid system is for many people. If I can't remote raid, I simply can't raid. That's the end of it. Which means I can't collect some of the better PM for either raid attacking OR PvP. It simply means I'm gonna get smushed no matter what I do. So thanks for letting me know Niantic. I guess I'll stop playing your game now.

[@justvincenturb]

Their first mistake was introducing remote raids in the first place and expecting people to be okay with it after nerfing it.

[@falconwings1982]

The pandemic was in high gear. No treatments or vaccines were available. People were inside trying to avoid getting sick and possibly dying or permanently injured. Almost no one was outside doing anything let alone raiding

[@justvincenturb]

@@falconwings1982 hence the second part.

[@peterblum4992]

I don't think you're going after the real issue here. Why does raiding feel so tedious? Because...it is. Instead of giving us a way to pay our way to win from home (which does take away from the spirit of the game imo), let us have some agency over the power of our pokemon instead of just rolling the die. Bring in some way to boost pokemon IVs, I don't care how hard it is to earn it, it would be better than playing the roulette wheel.

[@lookthroughmycamera]

I’m sticking to my plan of taking a break after Go Fest. It’s really sad that we are stuck with this company running our favorite game. I don’t want to stop playing. I love going out and catching mons but it’s stupid for me to spend money on it when the company that runs it hates me and my opinion. They are basically giving us the middle finger. I can tell you for sure that my Pokémon community Is not happy. We all have more complaints than anything. So yeah I’m taking a break after New York. I don’t think I will even play the global event. I might still PVP tho. I have too many good mons to just let them sit around.

[@crobinson2624]

Well, if their goal was to get me to stop spending money on remote raid passes, then mission accomplished. When remote raid passes were first introduced I was probably spending $20 a month on them now I don’t buy them at all, I also don’t raid much anymore.

[@ChronoSquare]

i've always felt like the 3 at a time, maximum, has been prohibitively restrictive. God forbid you have to work during a big raid day, like a weekend day or wednesday 2nd shift.

[@Frum5]

Niantic knows that unlimited remote raids will kill the game. You guys are too close minded to understand that unlimited raid passes are literally a money grab and it will make the game EVEN MORE play to win.

[@evilras]

Naintic - we want you to only use premium raid tickets to play. Players - ooh we can spoof GPS via a pc safely. Naintic - no! Not like that!

[@BnBLion.]

I mean, With remote raids I could raid at home and have fun, with a nerf yes I have to go out, But I live in the south, Most days are 95°F with 80% humidity to start, and if it does cool down, it’s because of thunderstorms… I almost NEVER play outside my car. Niantic is just failing their own players. And as for community, On a good raid hour we can get 5-6 people. On a meh one maybe 3. But when remote raids weren’t nerfed we have MORE overall players cause more people actually enjoyed the game. I still have fun personally just hunting mons and powering up what I have, But it can be hard to have fun or be hopeful for the game when EVERY update niantic just takes from its players. The anger in me wants to watch them fail due to their actions, but I’d also hate to lose Pogo. I really wish companies weren’t beyond out of touch with their playerbases.

[@simercury515]

I don't believe them; Ninatic will never admit they are wrong, therefore "We're right" was always going to be their only comment. It would take a lot to convince me they didn't give up over a $100 million dollars in annual revenue and nuke ever non-downtown raid scene because they couldn't think of how to incentivize players to play the way Niantic envisions (pooling local lobbies, making *5 adjust for player count/level, etc) And if you look at the Pokémon they are putting in E-Raids its pretty clear they are being force to put the super chase stuff in the local-only raids to make them "work"

[@TheGamingInkling]

Niantic: Commits mistake after mistake *Thousands of players stop playing* Niantic: MISSION COMPLETE 🥳🎉🎉

[@theshotgundog]

I came back to the game (2016 account) after hardly playing was only lvl 28. Was enjoying it a good bit, so decided to invitest into my avatar a bit. 2 weeks later avatar update in which broke more than half what i bought. Fun fact belts dont work on ANYTHING right now xD xD so this led me to start spoofing and ive been spoofing ever since. Hearing more about the negative sportsman ship Niantic gives it's playerbase I dont even feel bad or have any remorse for doing so, feels about the only way to enjoy the game now. My main reason of play was to have something fun to get out with play with friends and possibly meet and make new ones. Which i still intend to do Rn Rn ive been enjoying being a spoofer. Showing up to campfire flares inwhich people are typically using hoping other campfire app users will see their call outs. Sadly where i am locally it seems only like 25% of the pogo commute even realizes how to use the campfire app or even knows about it. So I know more often then not when I do this I can typically be called out xD

[@libradawg9]

Because of what they did with the raids I'm now down to one person who I have actual contact with who plays regularly, and even then we play sporadically at best. Do they actually think 1-2 people are going to win a single 5-star raids walking aimlessly around town? We almost beat Registeel once, but either way it relies on using a vehicle; no exercise. I won't even get into rural areas. The exercise excuse is going nowhere with anyone, so don't give us that BS Niantic. Walking is already very important to hatch eggs and get XL candy, and whaddya know, they knock steps off during paid events. Also, the incubators are their most expensive product. It's a price gouge and no amount of gaslighting will make us forget that's exactly why they did this.

[@batzgameguru]

Exactly what we were hoping for? I want what they are smoking like imagine how much more money they'd make if they kept the remote pass price

[@BigT5]

It became a 🤡 game after 2023. They achieved nothing expect lost rural players(which they do not care for in the first place, and people that don't have people to play with(like me)). This is pure example what happens when comapny doesn't have vision. Niantic is one of them. That's why all other games from them failed. Still, I'm thankful they saved me a lot of money after I stopped playing.

[@kimberly4275]

Honestly, the game has insane potential. It's wild how good the game could be if they weren't so insistent on the whole "exploring" thing.

[@nixequestrian3721]

News flash Niantic- A decent number of players no longer bother going out to play nearly as often as we did before your rrp nerf. Why... Because we can't solo t5 & most t4 raids & far too few people now want to join raids remotely so there is no point in us leaving the house to go find raids to do anymore. I play for 60-90mins during my daily walk & that is it outside of raid hour once a week, which I only bother with if the raid boss is super popular & hasn't been out for 1 to 2 weeks already. I now have almost 200 green passes in my bag because I can't use them like I used too. So yeah, your nerf has worked amazingly well for a bunch of us by dissuading us from bothering to leave the house to play. Your nerf has worked so well that my spending on PoGo has greatly reduced- I used to purchase all the tickets & a 14500 bundle once or twice a month, but since your price increases & the nerf, I've only bothered buying com day tickets, the fest or tour tickets & needed dex entry research, as no point me spending money on raid passes I'm not going to use or can't use, so my bank account is looking super happy thanks to the nerf.

[@BennieSz]

“Seen more in-person communities coming back together… since pre-pandemic”. No sheep Sherlock. Stands to reason that in-person activity would pick up post-pandemic. This is such a selective way to interpret the data and completely disregards context. I feel like in-person activity is actually lower, especially raiding, because you can’t guarantee that other people will be out and raiding too. I was at my parents, who don’t live in the city, and finding enough people to raid was impossible.

[@talonnosta]

Yes, I stopped playing PoGo for awhile after they nerfed the remote raids (for idr how long) but I think they eventually ended up getting an event that got me back to playing again. Only difference is I don't buy remote passes w/ Google Play cards anymore, I have a Gym next to my house that I can put a mon into for coins. If I have $ leftover from something else, maybe I'll put it into PoGo for passes, incubators(another price hike, as well as incense and everything else in the store) I just buy one item at a time instead of bulk. Remote passes work for me b/c i can't get alot of ppl to raid with and i can't walk to other raids. Also there's the weather (summer and winter) I could raid from home if it's hot or cold out and w/ other friends online.

[@manbeerpigs16]

Niantic does not care about rural players, at all. They only care about the huge populations(Go fest locations for example). If you don't live in a bigger city then you are SOL. Might as well quit playing pokemon go.

[@ThomasPrivitor]

Day 1 player here : It's a good game, hates gonna hate. We were over the Moon when they offer covid buffs. And said game is dead when they take them away .... Get over it!!! It's a fun game. It always has been and won't change unless it becomes 1000% pay to win. ( It's note btw haters )

[@calhimself6552]

To answer your question I do still play, but only because I could spoof up until a few weeks ago. I did raids that way. They just fixed the thing that allowed spoofing a few weeks ago, and now I’m incredibly bored in the game. They are gonna have a big exodus here. Only hard core cheaters will remain who spend over 150$ on a rooted phone.

[@Spiral_real]

So basically if the intended effect was killing their game and destroying communities, then I guess good job

[@joeyvandal]

This is literally why I quit, Ive been playing since 2016, and since then I've become semi disabled. I can't walk around the way I used too. It's sad that Niantic doesn't give a single f0ck about people like me

[@alisyed7659]

Is the US Government asking for Niantic Taxes illegally. Niantic workers are giving political non answer. High Price Tags in the Shop. No players are Remote Raiding much.

[@geekbabe100]

I am a 67 yr old lung cancer patient, I will go out with my son but most of the time we are the only 2 trainers raiding. Remote raiding is important to me.

[@ricolee7728]

Niantic is just too funny. Like how my friend and I always joke around, this is the only company that HATES money from their customers. But thanks to them, I can spend money elsewhere. I just don’t play this game often now, and free to play

[@duncanmeatbreak1724]

I mean, what can you do when someone just lies and insults people like this? This is such a lame attempt at gaslighting players who have been playing the game the entire time, and know exactly what is happening. He is such an awful individual. He's had an absolute nightmare with statements this past week. Almost every word out of his mouth is either empty or toxic. You are dead right when you say they don't understand what people are complaining about. Steranka is great at responding to straw men and avoidign the real issues. It is just rude and offensive, and also just plain weird. Why they wanted to get rid of all the thriving communities that supported each other, and just minimsie access of the raiding part of the game (and spawns, and research tasks) to rich city people again. Quite why they could not leave the thriving momentum of the game alone, and also add GOOD versions of Routes and Party Play beggars belief. Give people more incentives to go out - which is fine, people were doing that anyway (as they themselves already said). It's very frustrating, and sadly too may people are still giving this guy far too much money to be insulted by him like this.

[@sofiamagdalena2629]

I still enjoy the game. I love all the tiny events, sure, some are better than others, but I also just like the grind. And having a reason to walk outside. Catching pokemon, seeing my progress with collection of hundos and shinies and medals etc. I have mostly been a free-to-play player, this august will be my third year anniversary and raiding haven't really been a big part of my PoGo-journey. Like the only times I've bought remote passes is for the ones that cant be raided from my region.

[@picsl8ed867]

I still don't understand Niantic's stance on all this at all. Niantic: We want you to go outside and explore! Niantic: Also I hope you have a car lol Why!? Why did they add a mechanic you need to drive a lot to use, fix that, then mess it up again!? Remote Raids never stopped people from going outside and playing, it stopped the need for driving around to look for legendary raids. That was two completely separate things.

[@Allaboutfamily2374]

There goal is for one type player with avatar disaster 😂 and with KZbinrs purchasing remote passes and pramoteing niantic has got what they want $2 a pop and control of how y’all play 😂 2024 Pokémon go is ☠️ shame also

[@oiinightbloodt5523]

Only thing they achieved is the fact they don't care about the game and the community. Since the raid nerf Im not that hard into It. It's either their way or noway. And for that Niantic can kick rocks. That's for showing your TRUE COLORS.

[@Anthony-zm8of]

Even if they put remote raid passes back to 99 coins with no limit, I wouldn't bother. So over priced for a bad IV legendary. It basically promotes gambling

[@maltman21]

Well, I am 67 and I'm good health right now. My wife and I play together and she is not. Closest place with a gym and a pokestops is a 10 minute drive away. If we want to be outside, that requires that I provide walking assist or put her in her wheelchair and push it for here. Not exactly friendly for elderly or partially disabled.

[@alpha0090]

Thank God I never played when remote raids were a thing. So I'm not spoiled like the people here complaining. They have a point where now there are lots of people raiding in person. It takes from the game when things are too easy. Rural players will always be complaining about pokemon go so I don't see their point anymore since they're still playing. People are threatening that there will be more flyers now, and that's ok for me as long as those hardcore players still come in person and I'm not just playing with 3 people who are just inviting others. It truly scared me when I came back and saw remote raids which I could do from pokegenie, I was happy to know that the remote passes were expensive as heck and only a set number can be done per day. I thought that Pokemon go would just be me joining raids in my bed which was not what this game should be about. Good Job Niantic!