NIBIRU 2

[@zithert]

Isnt that the Monster inside nibiru?

[@alial-kateeb5267]

not necessarily nibiru might be the token it self

[@kyounokaien]

no, theia is the planet that hit the earth and became the moon

[@Realblack_m0nster]

i dont think so. the thing inside i think is the token it generates. This is just another prinal being.

[@Duwhd]

Nibiru is the creature inside the rock, which is also the black creature that you see in the token art. This is just another card (99% sure about this)

[@monster25cr]

No, it’s Patrick!

[@adriancardona2172]

Ancient Gear is probably the best home for Heavy Poly, specifically as a Thrust Target, since with a normal summon (such as Wyvern) you've got 4 material in 3 Howitzer+Normal Summoned Ancient Gear. While not the best, you can also easily bait interaction with Ancient Gear Fortress, since that forces interaction to allow for interactions down the line (Branded Lost for Ancient Gear) Still not the overall craziest, but it is A home.

[@zeroshadowzs]

Generic use as a 3 of in decks that don't need the extra: Coordius the Triphasic Dealmon

[@ShadowMasterLuigi]

the only use case I really see for Theia is that if you can get an extra level 4+ body on board with Desirae going first so that you can use the Desirae negate to stop something then use him and the extra body to bring out Theia so that they only have 4 more summons to deal with the rest of your board

[@qureldeering968]

The card is supposed to to work like summon limit so it remembers how many summons happen before it’s face up so in theory they should have less than 4 summons left before you bring it out

[@majickman]

@@qureldeering968 It says "while it is face-up on the field" so I don't think it's like summon limit

[@qureldeering968]

@@majickman yeah I’ve seen conflicting opinions on the cards’ ruling, you’re probably right but, im just on the side of hoping the card is actually playable compared to being an infinitely worse winda

[@AlexShade-bv7qw]

I agree with you on Teia rn, however keep in mind that both mulcharmies gives you extra draws.. It seems to me like they are preparing a new "format" of handtraps that work in conjunction and make so that the oponent can not push through mulcharmy and has to pass turn the moment it gets activated..

[@idontwatchtv]

Chaos Ancient Gear Giant is already easily summonable but with that Heavy Poly support to make it even more deadly!

[@EliDSage]

Theia is the Nibiru token up close, like One Piece where new characters start as silhouettes we saw its silhouette now we know who's that Pokemon

[@koltonnarayan8935]

Centurion could theoretically play it, as it has both the room for it and the high level monsters to not lose too much card avantage, but at the same time the deck would have to be really articulate with its synchros as it could go into the cosmic blazer line use its negate. Which makes it leave the field than activate theta, which would give you the floodgates and the pop.

[@Luminousplayer]

Evil nibiru: the player that doesnt summon more than 5 times this turn sends all cards on his field to the graveyard.

[@ironicliar2029]

The best thing you can do with this is have this in your hand when you get nib as a back up plan or when you brick hard. Or search it some long combo you see on KZbin in a crazy end board

[@Unknown-qj9sm]

I’m sure at some point we’ll see a really cool deck be able to search it, however even trying to small world it right now is really awkward. Earth is probably the worst attribute right now, there aren’t really any decent main deck level 11 monsters that aren’t nib, and rock is really hard to find and basically doesn’t exist outside of casual games at the moment.

[@ayham613]

yeah unfortunate the best thing is to play 3 bricks in deck and hope you get nibbed LMAO

[@Unknown-qj9sm]

@@ayham613 I think the only scenario this sees play is if a teir 0 archetype is cripplingly weak to nib so everyone runs 3, and can search theia without any extra effort in their main combo, and even then at 1 and it could be cut in better versions of the deck.

[@ZarkionUltimate]

This card was three words from being good

[@LoudCloudd]

“from either field”

[@ZarkionUltimate]

@@LoudCloudd The ones I had in mind were "on the field" but that would also be fine they had many ways to make this good but chose not to sadly 😅 btw I hope you have a great day!

[@hannessteffenhagen61]

@@ZarkionUltimate "on the field" is still the same thing, only your monsters, just clarifies you can't tribute from hand.

[@ZarkionUltimate]

@@hannessteffenhagen61 On your field yes, on the field no otherwise nib would only work for your monsters

[@kps3252]

​@@hannessteffenhagen61 nibiru says on the field, this new card destroys a monster on the field... Why talk if you are completely wrong...

[@aetherwolf9288]

Basically the way I think this card is intended to work is very specific to be a card to equalize after you get Nibed. Like they resolve Nib on you clearing their board. Then you summon this card to pop the Nib to punch for game. Otherwise I think this card could be interesting in Centurion if Crimson gets negated. So in any scenario its a niche card at best. I would play Flashing Fire generically honestly before I play this card. As with Flashing Fire I can hit engine requirements and turn it into a body. Heavy Poly has one interesting target to search out any spell for 2k LP. So in Dinomorphia and Heroric this might see play. But then Varudras and Evolsaur Lars are just too easy to make atm. If it had any protection or build in chain blocking tool this card would be played in Heroric and Cyberse piles to search Cynet Mining for the banned Circular… Or it could be used in… Ragnaraika to add bloom when Evil seed got negated and you don’t open up extenders? Or Dogmatika to search Nadir? That could be something. If it would Chain block… But it doesn’t. So either your opponent put 3 Vanillas on board and you live that (RAGE WITH EYES OF BLUE LETS GO). Or your opponent lets you add any spell you want… Or you set up Branded Lost first! In Dogmatika where you rather would have Regained… So yeah the card isn’t that good… Sad

[@Luminousplayer]

This is clearly Lavos

[@lmr4403]

Heavy polymerization is cool if someday appropriate fusion monsters (archetype) gets released.

[@lmr4403]

like the chimera/illusion fusion monsters.

[@smurfaccount282]

foolish some weird trap/spell that lets you attack directly or smth, summon coordius , pay 4k,attack for game or you know: effect coordius: pay 4k life... opponent: "I activate ghost ogre"

[@polodoskyz]

Is there any relevant extra deck card that activate when banished?

[@davidegasparini824]

Ice mountain dragon?

[@saxonhagemann1918]

Stupid question about theia if you summon it after they’ve summoned 4 times can they no longer summon? Or do they have 4 summons after it hits the field?

[@jhovanyesquivel2013]

The poly card wouldve been good for dinomorphia if it said 2 or more cards ugh so close

[@oke-fr3wj]

we got nibiru 2 before GTA6

[@laidbacklenz6782]

I am thinking about playing this in Orcust Horus. I got many Monsters that have a high Level and that I want to hit the grave. So if I activate this as soon as my opponent made the fourth summon he can not summon any more. Am I right?

[@WilliFR]

floOdCG will love this

[@zeo4481]

Lair of Darkness+ this goes BRRRRR

[@hannessteffenhagen61]

Lair of Darkness lets you only tribute one monster, so exactly what level 11+ monster are you seeing often enough that you'd want to tribute it with this?

[@pretends2know]

@@hannessteffenhagen61 The Nibiru token you gave them.

[@hannessteffenhagen61]

@@pretends2know aight so let me get this straight... You want to activate lair, pass to your opponent, wait till 5 summons, activate nibiru, nibiru resolves, and then activate theia to get rid of their vanilla token... Even by LoD standards that's bad

[@timbitz079]

I know this is specific, other than Nib, if you use Phantazmay and/or PSY-Frame package with any Bystial OR 2 Bystials, you can Special Summon Theia as a quick effect.

[@yugiohBXR]

Yeah, Theia feels like it needs a huge banlist just to make it viable. It has no protection so its floodgate effect doesn't feel very good at all since it's very easy to get removal through 4 summons.

[@Witsuarunemetia]

I hear that digimon world 3 soundtrack in the background.

[@durandarte]

Yo, this choice of music is amazing. Digimon World 3 is peak Digimon. Sad about those cards being bad tho xD

[@thesonicslasher75]

Am I the only one who thinks konami is trying to make the 3 mat fusion monster specific fusion spells wrong here? Like committing 3 cards into 1 (outside of the case with guardian chimera where you can potentially get 2 of the 3 lost cards back while also popping a card) is already bad since your going -3 for 1 body, the spell + 3 monsters to make the fusion is -4 but then you get a body so it ends as a -3 which sucks. I feel like an easy fix for heavy poly and greater poly was just make it so the player using them can also use cards from the deck but NOT ONLY FROM THE DECK. For example if this card said you can fuse a fusion that requires 3 or more mats, you can use mats from your hand field and deck (1 from each minimum), then I feel like it'd be better and then the extra deck option would be just a bonus. This way the card still has a niche in the decks that summon a lot of 3 mat fusions (gate guardian, blue-eyes, ancient gears, fluffals etc), while still not being a foolish burial for 3 like with what happened to pre errata future fusion where the fusion was more of a bonus and the card was really just foolish burial for 5. instead at most you can only foolish 2 mats from deck, but if branded fusion can do that and still not be banned I doubt it would be that broken. and even then you'd still have to setup for it still by having a mat in hand, and field first along with this semi unsearchable card (thrusts and left arm offering gets it but not much else) in the opening hand.

[@thesonicslasher75]

FYI, this is just my idea on how to make the 3 mat fusion monster specific Spells better, not how to make fusion summoning as a whole better or how to make the 3 mat fusions themselves better. just the spells like heavy and greater poly and others that are like them better.

[@IncandescentCrowvus]

This is like a modern anti raigeki to counter a modern staple

[@CrowofApproval]

For heavy poly it will be much easier to summon quintet magician and if you throw the three relinquished ED monsters you can summon it at no cost to your life points. Really the only deck that it works for though is probably a dogmatika deck.

[@MonoeyeSenpai]

Sounds like a great new handtrap for Vanquish Soul.

[@s3xio]

In which world exactly? Not mine for sure lmao

[@Tidalx3]

Digimon World 3 music is the best 😍

[@gungnir382]

11:11 No Zarc is criminal

[@IAngelofFuryI]

Why didn't you review Mind Castlin?

[@AdamChopdat]

Because no creator pulled it and therefore it could be conceived as viewing leaks and get Josh banned

[@jcw034]

I would use heavy fusion to get the First Darklord

[@Throrma]

Heavy Polymerization whould be much better if it would give extra effects to the summoned monsters like greater poly does

[@JoansGuardian]

Theia seems funny in Centurion since its very easy to fulfill the summoning conditions, but the problem is that deck is still very vulnerable to interruption by handtraps even with the ROTA support.

[@RNE1993]

To be fair, they couldn’t have Heavy Poly be 2+ monsters. If you run Muddy Mudragon, it becomes Instant Fusion going 2nd for anything with a named material. How many LPs would you pay to summon a free Mirrorjade, Dragoon, DM Magia, Millenium Eyes, Grapha etc. There’s probably more targets I can’t think of. It would be way too strong and require zero main-deck bricks. Even going first it mega punishes Bystials.

[@Ferna471]

Can it be used in centurion? In order to summon limit your opponent on their turn?

[@Hein.-]

It can but then it's just another go first card that doesn't help you setup your board nor play around their handtraps

[@aaronjustingarciacatarroja594]

prolly will be usable if there is a REALLY good level 11 archetype.

[@SonaSoniaSona]

I really think heavy polymerization has a in melodious, can summon etoile easily through it or bloom prima

[@TofuofLight]

Can’t you tribute nib token and pop opponent nib if you get nibbed? Also memento combined creation is 11 so if your back row gets outed (cranium burst) then creation is functionally useless after it summons back a monster so can tribute the creation on opponents turn

[@godone3699]

Heavy polymerization is good for magia,ultimate and number c5

[@SerdzhanAhmedov]

Heavy poly looks really good for Ancient gear.

[@marcoderosa5096]

Is retroattive the the sum count eff?

[@sweepinbelle]

No, it's while theia is on the field. It's bad winda, not bad summon limit

[@vitortakara7090]

the best effect for heavy polymerization is to banish 3 extra deck monsters (i checked and there are enough targets to banish any 3 card combination you want) the problem is i dunno if there are enough targets to banish with good effects to make the card good, competitively speaking all targets summonable with materials from ED are not good enough, but i didn't searched for the banish targets if there are strong cards with effect when banished or while in the banish zone this card can be pretty good

[@ZarkionUltimate]

I mean it's pretty nuts in SelFTK

[@ShinerCCC]

the only thing i know of is a Shiranui monster that perma shrinks by 500 ATK when banished

[@Bennime_Once]

Maybe Im dont get it but isnt Theia supposed to be used going 1st? Like you set up your board, have this in your hand (maybe search it with granite) Then your opp tries to break your board, maybe they imperm a moster or droplet you or smth, you just tribute a couple of your guys summon this and your opponent stop playing cause floodgate. I am asuming this will work like summon limit, the only reason summon limit doesnt have the 2nd part is casue its old. This card neither reads like winda or summon limit so we have to wait and see. The "Each player can only Special Summon monster(s) once per turn" from winda is probably not the same as, Neither player can summon more than 4 times.

[@hannessteffenhagen61]

"your opponent stop playing cause floodgate" your opponent doesn't stop playing because this is the mildest floodgate known to man. "This card neither reads like winda " What are you talking about, it's almost exactly the same wording, the only difference is that the restriction is worded positively in Winda's case and negatively in Theia's case: "Each player can only Special Summon monster(s) once per turn while this card is face-up on the field" "Neither player can Normal and/or Special Summon more than 4 times per turn while this card is face-up in the Monster Zone."

[@gonzamm6138]

Ok so what I basically got from this video is I misunderstood how this card worked. I thought it was way better than how he described it. Now I know

[@soulstarved4116]

I definitely see it having more use than you mentioned, but yeah, S:P kills this thing. If S:P gets banned, then this gets scary in certain decks.

[@DonPiantissimo]

If theia got good and sp was banned people would just play Knightmare Cerberus instead. That is if they don't have an in archetype way to out a BEWD in 4 summons.

[@soulstarved4116]

@DonPiantissimo No one played cerberus before, and no one is gonna start now. The only way which cerberus would be played is if Theas is in every deck, which given the requirement, it can't.

[@FafliXx]

Chaos Ancient Gear Giant seems the most reasonable target for Heavy Poly, since that deck is already going blind second to OTK.

[@chrisdhespollari4815]

100%, you could also use for some of the cydra fusions but ancient gear synergies way more

[@TeamSolidarity100]

Can’t you use this to counter nib? If they give you a nib token can’t you use this card to tribute your token

[@rexblanco2204]

This card is just a nibiru Follow up; acter you nibiru and can't out the token because it's too thicc, you just tribute nibiru to summon this guy and pop the token.

[@temetyly]

Eeey, digimon world 3, banger soundtrack

[@overlorddinok3596]

Hmmm i personally think Theia is mid its good cause you can force your opponent to skip turn after being nib'd or they have to burn another card to out it. We just need a Rock archetype to take advantage of it now.

[@happycamperds9917]

Heavy poly new Mimighoul support?!?!

[@UlanielsCorner]

Memento fools

[@flappy7305]

I do not get it, -nibirus effect can be negated, because tribute is part of the effect, but theia tribute as cost, so it is harder to stop. -nibiru is just good going second, because you tribute the whole field, but theia is good going first and second, because you can also just tribute the opponents field if they have -nibiru gives the opponent a strong token you need to deal with, theia do not do that -after tribute special, nibiru do not do more, theia can rarely destroy one more card, or have a most of time irrelevant mini summon limit effect But right now i did not think about, how often or how fast different decks get level 11 or higher to the same time on board Do i miss here something, or get i something wrong ?

[@dotsdashes3019]

theia only lets you tribute your own monsters

[@Bennime_Once]

theia doesnt tribute opp monsters.

[@flappy7305]

Okay, why people talk about nibiru 2 if it does not tribute opponents monster, that confused me 😅

[@flappy7305]

Oh, ok, now i get it You use theia after nibiru, tribute away your nibiru, destroy the nibiru token and if your oppent rebuild his board, he can just use 4 summons, after his last 5th summon nibiru tributed everything away. That is why people say theia is inside nibiru.

[@hannessteffenhagen61]

@@flappy7305 Theia isn't "inside" Nibiru, they're different things inside different rocks. Nibiru is a similar being to Theia, stuck in a different rock. They're talked about together because they are obviously thematically matched, not because they work the same way.

[@drakev.]

I don’t think it will be playable unless it’s searchable

[@DevastatingWarrior]

The first thing I thought when I saw heavy poly, was "oh wow, that's an easy way to setup a really hard to out PEP"

[@Iluvblaziken]

PEP the lvl 11 synchro monster?

[@athenaproductions3569]

@@Iluvblazikenpep Guardiola the football coach

[@DevastatingWarrior]

@@Iluvblaziken Yes

[@nath7690]

Unless we get another card that summoning it self like bystial but lv 11-12 it unplayable cus if you using like bystial to summon it, it was too many minus for this work as hand trap i wonder if we can make it work for other than hand trap.

[@arrozzblanco]

Basically after you nib with this in hand, you can tribute your nib and destroy the token then they can't summon anymore for that turn

[@slimbenhamadi]

i think how it ACTUALLLY is supposed to be used, is by searching this using granite before 5 summons so when ur opp drops nib on you u can have this in hand, and summoning it tributing the token then popping opp nib and floodgating them

[@arrozzblanco]

@@slimbenhamadi still niche but I understand

[@abendsonnewarriorcats9474]

Spoiler, the answer is no

[@Mali-ih3gx]

NO ITS NOT

[@nickd6303]

So Theia is a worse Niberu and a worse summon limit.

[@abdurachmanromzy4778]

Yes theorically Because it need a lot of setup and less restricted than summon limit itself

[@blue-eyeswhitekirbo2543]

Hear me out: theia plus lair of darkness? If you play niberu and tribute everything, you can then just tribute the token for theia and then stop all summons right? Or just tribute a big bungus on their side

[@harukonoe4248]

That requires you to have a specific 3 card hand and to go first. Not exactly a smart idea of activate lair of darkness then passing on your first turn lmao

[@blue-eyeswhitekirbo2543]

@@harukonoe4248 but have you considered the intimidation factor of lair of darkness pass?

[@slimbenhamadi]

u cant tribute opponent's monsters but i think how it ACTUALLLY is supposed to be used, is by searching this using granite before 5 summons so when ur opp drops nib on you u can have this in hand, and summoning it tributing the token then popping opp nib and floodgating them

[@blue-eyeswhitekirbo2543]

@@slimbenhamadi lair of darkness allows you to use one of your opponent’s monsters For a tribute, so theoretically you can use one of your opponent’s level 11+ monsters for theia. But this is a dumb idea since lair of darkness isn’t exactly the most competitive deck.

[@hannessteffenhagen61]

@@blue-eyeswhitekirbo2543 Also what level 11+ monster are you tributing lol, there are only a handful in the meta and they either have negates printed on them or are not a big deal if they get tributed.

[@RoyaltonDrummer922]

Josh’s chat makes me lose brain cells. No, Heavy Polymerization cannot fusion summon Hugin. Or Dragon Master Magia.

[@sandythamtono2081]

But i feel like if you let your oponent cook and have 3 or more monster as end board its better to just use sphere mode 😂 And for going 2nd in a fusion deck, super poly is prolly better

[@Jayhawk99]

Cannot tribute opponents monsters.

[@gigalodon14]

Couldnt you also tribute the token when you get nibiru‘d and then „lock“ your opponent as a counter? Not that it makes it good

[@ERRandDEL]

And it can be negated 🤣 it can't even hit Xyz or Links, or tribute the opponent's stuff lol. maybe that's why the art is angry

[@6210classick]

@@ERRandDEL it destroys the highest ATK monster on the field so it can hit Link and Xyz monsters. Also, almost every hand trap out there can be negated so what's exactly your point?

[@ERRandDEL]

@@6210classick Oh, yeah, you're totally right about that (I was focused on the tribute aspect of it)

[@bishopclarke3295]

They could've easily made this for s/t cards! "If your opponent has set 2 or more spell/trap cards this turn, you can send all set s/t cards your opponent controls to the grave and special summon this card from your hand. If this card was special summoned using this effect, your opponent can set 1 s/t card of their choice from their deck. While this card is face up on the field, S/T cards can not be activated the turn they are set(to bypass any effects that allow you to activate s/t the turn theyre set and lock opponents normal spells). Just a thought🤷🏾‍♂️

[@sammydray5919]

Yes because thats exactly what we need, more backrow deck hate. If it targeted face up spell/trap cards then atleast it would have outed floodgates while keeping trap decks away from the splash zone lmao.

[@LeonTGBU]

This card is a pretty neat win con for decks with rank 4 access, you make your normal board and then on the opponents turn tribute your used monsters and flood them out. Very few decks can play under this floodgate effect

[@hannessteffenhagen61]

Literally every deck can play under this floodgate effect. Even if you have the most budget of budget decks, you could just make something like Knightmare Cerberus and go on with your plays.

[@DReppin2009]

Easy to run in spright sideboard, especially if you go toadally first turn and melffy second turn. You get toadally summon frog (1), melffy pinny (2), melffy synchro to herald (3), then drop this bad boy. If you have Azurune it's even easier.

[@ivicapavic3381]

I'm seeing a completely different, more toxic use scenario for this card. A player goes first, set's up an omni negate board, use the negates on your opponent's turn, then after the opponent has summoned 4 times, u drop this and it basically ends their turn. I see it as a going FIRST ONLY, side deck card. You can also use it to dodge an Imperm or Veiler on your negate monster.

[@corebren2510]

@@kyounokaien I ask you to revisit this comment in a week or so from now.

[@bonez994]

Effect is while it's on the field, summons before it hits the board aren't counted towards the limit

[@gradyturner595]

Are we forgetting two level 4s make gallant granite and we can search this. Raziel included

[@adwdwdwas]

This probably is meant to work with primordial

[@flackenstien]

Theia would be good if it was only 1 more Summon, like Winda, but that would be a bit too much and also still seems like overkill at the same time. It's a neat idea, but it's just too situational. Is your opponent really going to Summon more than 4 times after Nibiru in most cases? No. Maybe we'll see more of these mystery planet Primal Beings.

[@gradyturner595]

Is this not a floodgate after going full combo in high level monster decks, wait till your opponent makes 4 summons and u just summon this

[@ryanager8029]

Theia I think, might slot into high level synchro decks, not just for the summon limit like effect, but also to dodge certain negate effects.

[@sandstorm7790]

2:18 I believe the way this is actually is suppose to be used is not by the person who used nibiru, it's by the person who got hit by nibiru. If you get hit by nibiru then you tribute the nibiru token pop their nibiru and now they're locked under 4 summons with no bodies on board. It's not suppose to be a win more card it's suppose to be a nibiru counter.

[@sabnarose]

nope its follow up after you Nibiru bcs this thing is what inside Nibiru so its lore accurate

[@hannessteffenhagen61]

But this doesn't counter anything, it just means you now have a different guy instead of a token. If anything, it makes your board worse, because at least sometimes when your opponent has Nibiru they're bricked and you can kill them with the token.

[@sandstorm7790]

@@hannessteffenhagen61 this objectively doesn't make your board worse though? You're trading a token that does nothing for a bad summon limit so at least you're actually ending on something.

[@hannessteffenhagen61]

@@sandstorm7790 it makes it worse because that card in your hand could have been a good card instead. Heck, nobody plays monster reborn and barely anyone plays solemns, but you'd much rather have those than this guy after getting nibiru'd, and more importantly they're not dead if you're not nibiru'd.

[@RoyaltonDrummer922]

It requires you to draw it and something else very specific happening, so it’s almost impossible this card would ever come up. Trash.

[@WhatsUrName0o7]

I feel like he completely missed the point of the anti Nib monster. You would play this in a deck that not only loses to Nibiru, but can hard summon him when you don’t get Nibbed. Ritual Beast and HEROES come to mind

[@kyounokaien]

@@WhatsUrName0o7 so you get nibbed, summon this, and then what? the floodgate eff is a joke as most decks can make s:p in exactly 4 summons to out this.

[@GammaRayXZ]

So you have to have theia in hand, play into nib, then go -1 on top of being nib

[@GotRosed]

That doesn't sound like a good play

[@tweekin7out]

he didn't miss anything because what you described is bad

[@bej4987]

Wait, you have to tribute your own monsters? This is worthless.

[@DeityofDestiny]

this isn't a defense of the card, as it's still quite bad, but how the fuck is josh just completely missing that this card is meant to be a _counter_ to an opponent's resolved nibiru, not something you're meant to pair with your own nibiru you tribute the primal being token and use its effect to destroy the nibiru on your opponent's board, leaving them with hypothetically no monsters and summon limit at home

[@RuleOfRosen]

Image have a 1 card combo magia and still not see it.

[@6210classick]

Which is?

[@RuleOfRosen]

@@6210classick heavy poly but Joshua don t read the card and think you use only two Monster,going second you can banish Blue eyes ultimate use a Chaos rituale Monster and thats It you won.

[@6210classick]

@@RuleOfRosen There are currently no Chaos or Black Luster Soldier Ritual Extra Deck monsters and even if there were, ya wouldn't be able to summon Magia by using only 2 materials because Heavy Polymerization requires ya to use at least 3 monsters as materials. If ya meant it as having the Chaos or Luster Soldier Ritual monster already in hand alongside Heavy Poly, that's not a true 1 card combo as ya claim it to be, isn't?

[@RuleOfRosen]

@@6210classick you can use the Chaos ritual Monsters. You are wrong Just Joshua Is you can do it with only two Monster because magia Say ultimate o 3 Blue eyes but of you use a ultimate you can still do It. Why you don t testing?

[@6210classick]

@@RuleOfRosen I didn't say that ya cannot use the Chaos/BLS Chaos Ritual monsters, I said that there are no EXTRA DECK CHAOS/BLS RITUAL MONSTERS therfore, this is not a true 1 card combo like ya claim it is. Go look up the ruling on Greater Polymerization but if ya want a summery, because of the way Heavy Polymerization is worded, ya must use minimum of 3 monsters as materials because the effect itself specify it. If Heavy Polymerization was able to use 2 materials to summon a monster that requires at least 3 materials then that first line of text would have been redundant so how about ya do research and learn how to read card or effects first then come back so that we can have meaningful discussion

[@TbirdGT500]

did anyone hear notice that this car does not specify monsters you control to Tribute this thing can tribute your opponent's monsters so long as the levels equal 11. it still makes it way too specific to be able to see play, but it's a very important thing when reading this card.

[@6210classick]

@@TbirdGT500 It's the opposite, because the card doesn't specify that ya can tribute your opponent monsters it means that by default, ya have to tribute your own, that's how it is ruled

[@ryanager8029]

You can only tribute monsters you control, unless otherwise specified. That has always been the ruling.

[@AnonymousUser82829]

Thanks for the info. Next time I’ll tribute my opponent’s monster with enemy controller

[@kusanagi-no-tachi5303]

It's the opposite. Exactly BECAUSE it doesn't specify, it only tributes monsters on your field. Also, bro, just my opinion, but I'd rather believe a World Champion and pro Yugioh player than myself at how rulings work.

[@knmrt2760]

​​@@AnonymousUser82829so you're telling me I could have traded 1 enemy controller for 2 monsters on my opponent's board !!!

[@BruxoYGO]

1:30 "I thought about it long and hard" 😳😳