Nice Trig Inequality

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Dr Peyam

Dr Peyam

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@aaditolkar
@aaditolkar 4 жыл бұрын
I don't understand most of this but your enthusiasm kept me super engaged! More teachers should be like you.
@plaustrarius
@plaustrarius 4 жыл бұрын
The turnaround @7:09 is epic!! Definitely cracked a huge smile when you said triangle identity i should have seen it earlier!! Thank you Dr. Peyam!
@elbrohermanito3496
@elbrohermanito3496 4 жыл бұрын
Dr peyam! Thank you for teaching math in a very kind and friendly way!! Eres genial, muchas gracias!!
@harrywotton7728
@harrywotton7728 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. An interesting thing is that mathematical induction shows up not only in integer-only(or rational-number-only) theories but also in theories of real number functions.
@gregorio8827
@gregorio8827 4 жыл бұрын
Draw a circle and choose two points on its circumference, such that they inscribe an angle of n*alpha. Divide the arc that inscribes this angle in n arcs of the same length, then, the cord of the big arc is sin(n*alpha) and the sum of n small cords is, n*sin(alpha) and because the shortest path is always the straight line, we get n*sin(alpha)>sin(n*alpha) as desired. There are some details but i think this proof can be extended to be valid to every real alpha.
@thomasborgsmidt9801
@thomasborgsmidt9801 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting formula/inequality. It sort of explains why the higher harmonics to a tone makes the amplitude of the tone more "square" - and why the weight of the higher harmonics gets weighed with the e^(-1)*a*n. That is something every musician knows (or should know); but never explains WHY. Musicians can normally use simple a/b relations, but it took a Mozart to compose for the clarinet. Is that obscure to You - well it is bloody well meant to be!
@dougr.2398
@dougr.2398 4 жыл бұрын
Thomas Borgsmidt thé higher harmonics must be addd in the correct proportion to square up a pure tone (sine wave).
@afrolichesmain777
@afrolichesmain777 4 жыл бұрын
For current/future students, the triangle inequality something that is used over and over in higher level mathematics, get used to it. Great video as always!
@High_Priest_Jonko
@High_Priest_Jonko 4 жыл бұрын
Holder's Inequality is also one that every analyst should know, because it's going to be used constantly and assumed to be obvious
@aruselizbaryan4042
@aruselizbaryan4042 11 ай бұрын
Bro I owe you my life. THANK YOU
@dougr.2398
@dougr.2398 4 жыл бұрын
This brings to mind a limit that might be proven using L’Hôpital’s rule or other means.... to show that in the limit as X --> 0 that [ N•sin(x) ] / sin (Nx) --> 1. and that N•sin (x) is always the larger of the two functions.
@anacapillalozano2783
@anacapillalozano2783 4 жыл бұрын
I love how u explain maths ❤️ Thanks you!!!
@sanjeevkumardhiman6783
@sanjeevkumardhiman6783 4 жыл бұрын
1:10 “jumping up and down” That was so funny. And can you show us the derivation of the formula for sin(a+b) [maybe with induction; coz I am loving it ]
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 4 жыл бұрын
You can do it with complex numbers :)
@High_Priest_Jonko
@High_Priest_Jonko 4 жыл бұрын
It's not a proof but if you forget use Euler's Formula: e^i(theta) = cos(theta) + isin(theta). Replace theta with a + b. Then e^i(a+b) = (e^ia)(e^ib) = [cos(a) + isin(a)][cos(b) + isin(b)]. Expand this, then the real part will be cos(a+b) and the imaginary part will be sin(a+b)
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 4 жыл бұрын
^ That’s actually the proof, I think!
@Kdd160
@Kdd160 4 жыл бұрын
DR PEYAM and SYDNEY CARTON You are very intelligent!!; But in this case,we have to use cos(a+b) formula; and SPS we don't know that, what would we do??I think we must approach from an another way :)
@Mclfarm2
@Mclfarm2 4 жыл бұрын
​@@Kdd160 I think you're right, it needs to be combined with other information. You need to have the properties of complex multiplication established beforehand. If you have established/assumed that multiplying complex numbers adds their angles on the Argand Diagram then combining this with what Sydney has commented should this should be a proof. I read about it on pages 73-76 of "Introductory Mathematics: Algebra and Analysis" by Geoff Smith in the Springer Undergraduate Mathematics series of textbooks.
@ThePharphis
@ThePharphis 4 жыл бұрын
This one isn't too bad! thanks for sharing. I think after drawing the picture it's also intuitive that the slope is greater or equal, initially for N*sin(x) and that it will not decrease as quickly (since they start with the same initial slope, I think, but one reaches a maximum sooner!)
@dohyun031
@dohyun031 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your great video! Is it possible to use the mathematical induction as follows? (n+1)|sinx| = n|sinx| + |sinx| >= |sin(nx)| + |sinx| >= |sin(nx)||cosx|+|sinx||cos(nx)| >= |sin(n+1)x| (I omitted the triangular inequality step)
@High_Priest_Jonko
@High_Priest_Jonko 4 жыл бұрын
We have |sin[(n+1)x]|
@Borja_Moreno
@Borja_Moreno 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah alright but isnt that obvious? I mean, sin(x) is a function that always go from -1 to 1 and if you multiply that function to a natural number always gives you a number that is larger in absolute value than any number between 0 and 1. I dont know where came from that surprise
@عمرانآلعمران-و7خ
@عمرانآلعمران-و7خ 4 жыл бұрын
Hi you know that the function sin x is uniformly continuous on the real line Is it true for sin(Nx)? if so ,can we prove it by using the above inequality in the blackboard I appreciate your work ,thank you a bunch!
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting question! I don’t think it follows from this, but you could just apply the mean value theorem to sin(nx) to get uniform continuity
@clorulo
@clorulo 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Dr. Peyam, I have a challenge for you! I have found an infinite sum that Wolfram alpha can evaluate but cannot prove. The series is Σ from 1 to infinity of n!/(n^n). The sum is equal to the integral from 0 to infinity of e^t/(e^t-t)² dt.
@tygodankers6526
@tygodankers6526 4 жыл бұрын
it does check out!
@rudolfgyorkei9558
@rudolfgyorkei9558 4 жыл бұрын
The best on KZbin
@ramk4004
@ramk4004 4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. Thank you.
@thomasborgsmidt9801
@thomasborgsmidt9801 4 жыл бұрын
How does this apply to conplex x'es?
@gurindersinghkiom1
@gurindersinghkiom1 4 жыл бұрын
Very nicely explained....!!!!!
@giannismaris13
@giannismaris13 4 жыл бұрын
Verry useful for Dirichlet kernel stuffs:)
@carlosmonteiro4263
@carlosmonteiro4263 4 жыл бұрын
Great problem!
@haoli9220
@haoli9220 4 жыл бұрын
is is possible to show that they meet each other with tangents of gradient = n and -n at some points
@haoli9220
@haoli9220 4 жыл бұрын
At every x intercept of n|sin x|
@Sahanie
@Sahanie 3 жыл бұрын
I just realized you can simplify your name to be πm.
@neilgerace355
@neilgerace355 4 жыл бұрын
| sin nx | must be
@grawe687
@grawe687 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the easiest way to prove this is to make that observation and use the fact that |sin(x)| is also less or equal to 1 and to this point the proof is trivial (you're left with n>=1 which is true for all natural number). The fact is that he's trying to explain how to prove something using induction and he's using this exercise as an example
@johannesh7610
@johannesh7610 4 жыл бұрын
you still have to prove it for the range near zero where |sin(x)| < 1/n
@grawe687
@grawe687 4 жыл бұрын
@@johannesh7610 sure, just Taylor expand to the third order and after some simplifications you'll be left with an inequality which holds for all n
@johannesh7610
@johannesh7610 4 жыл бұрын
@@grawe687 That sounds like not really a proof. You'd have to estimate the rest of the Taylor series either by this integral term I never found compelling or by estimating the series of the absolute values. Therefore I'd hesitate to approximate a Taylor series in a proof. But maybe you can actually argue with a value of |sin(x)| in sin^-1([-1/n,1/n]) divided into its regions of monotony
@grawe687
@grawe687 4 жыл бұрын
@@johannesh7610 yeah that's not the way to really prove it, the method you proposed is more adequate
@algobrax
@algobrax 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@sergioverde1322
@sergioverde1322 4 жыл бұрын
If you have 1/n instead of n, the inequality swaps over
@yyc3491
@yyc3491 4 жыл бұрын
I like the figure proof more😀
@SaojininiranjalaNethu-xi8mw
@SaojininiranjalaNethu-xi8mw Жыл бұрын
❤️🔥👍🏻
@easymathematik
@easymathematik 4 жыл бұрын
Here was some bullsh... :D Big sorry. :)
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 4 жыл бұрын
In fact your identity with cosine is wrong, try x = pi/2 and n = 2. There’s a reason why I chose sin
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not as trivial as you think
@easymathematik
@easymathematik 4 жыл бұрын
@@drpeyam Sorry, I was too fast. :D Forget everything, what I said. :P
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 4 жыл бұрын
It’s ok lol
@sparsetable
@sparsetable 4 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who thinks that Peyam lives in a mansion?
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 4 жыл бұрын
Mansion? 😂😂😂 I live in a studio apartment
@sparsetable
@sparsetable 4 жыл бұрын
@@drpeyam nice studio apartment
@tylershepard4269
@tylershepard4269 4 жыл бұрын
Did I hear someone say Chebyshev?
@thedoublehelix5661
@thedoublehelix5661 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't this one obvious?
@matheolentz4344
@matheolentz4344 4 жыл бұрын
obvious doesn't mean true
@easymathematik
@easymathematik 4 жыл бұрын
@@matheolentz4344 Obvious doesn´t mean true. This is correct, but since sin(x) is bounded by -1 and +1 by definition (!), this result is trivial. It is like saying 1
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 4 жыл бұрын
@Easy Mathematics No it’s not...
@thedoublehelix5661
@thedoublehelix5661 4 жыл бұрын
@@easymathematik yeah that's not correct reasoning
@easymathematik
@easymathematik 4 жыл бұрын
@@drpeyam Can I remind you, that you used the fact (in your words) cosine of junk is less or equal to 1. in your proof?
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