I didn’t get a return offer (software engineer intern)

[@nicholast]

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[@HighValueMeal]

bro is looksmaxxing now💀

[@nicholast]

i need to be jobmaxxing tho

[@dabocousin]

@@nicholast

[@monsiutech]

Wish you all the best man...the market is tough but you are tougher.

[@nicholast]

appreciate it

[@Charles-ew9hs]

if waterloo kids with previous experience struggling to get jobs how everyone else gonna get jobs 💀

[@bryllem.7509]

And it's quite demoralizing :(

[@t_huss01]

there are still tons of opportunities, companies are handing out OAs like crazy. Just apply early and know your leetcode and you should be fine

[@senju31]

​@@t_huss01 OAs?

[@prico3358]

Yeah but tjis guy doesnt want it that much. He seems lost and unmotivated.

[@harryzhu]

@@prico3358 what you see on social media is not the real person. so may be putting on a show to get rid of his competition

[@KevinNaughtonJr]

good things are coming nick

[@zh9113]

Was in the same exact position a year ago. In the end, got an even better job than the internship would've offered. Good luck and you got this!!

[@nicholast]

woah that's so awesome congrats!

[@BrainFreezeMC]

How long did it take/about how many jobs would you say you applied to? Did you have to move for the job? I'm starting college for software engineering next year and am worried about the market in 5 years

[@kwoknation]

Gotta respect the grind

[@zeerakasim6316]

man i just graduated, and have been hunting for a while lol. Market is just immensely cooked right now, after a fellowship, and 5 different versions of my resume, i got OAs lol. Yeh frickin OAs, no interview yet lol. i’m prepping for the OAs right now, and wish you the best through this process. i’m sure u will have an easier time, just don’t give up. The short term pain is nothing compared to the long term gain!

[@DetectiveConan990v3]

good luck bro

[@UnexpectedTokens]

i didn't get a return offer on my last co-op term at waterloo neither, was pretty rough for the couple of months after graduation, hunting for jobs... but it's always like that... new grads have it pretty rough... especially in this market, you seem a lot smarter than me so i'm sure you'll do fine haha good luck!

[@nicholast]

it really do be like that sometimes but we never back down never give up

[@MarkYeung1]

Wishing you the best Nicholas! Yes, the job market is tough. But there's one person who can make it, it will be you.😊

[@jlau04]

the job market is so cooked

[@vivas555]

Software team lead here. So first of all, sorry to hear about your lack of return offer. Second, I really hate how complicated some companies make it to hire graduate students. Like I personally never have grad students do leet code. It's so useless and disgusting. They passed their degree, they're good enough, simple as that. One live coding exercise and one interview is enough anything more is just company doing some intellectual j****** off. Third, the market might not be the same but if you wanna hear how things are from the POV of someone who's actively recruiting, let me know.

[@BrainFreezeMC]

Hey, I'm considering going to college for software engineering next year. In 5 years, do you think I can land a job?

[@vivas555]

@@BrainFreezeMC Can ? absolutely. In the exact specific field you want for the salary you want ? Probably not but it doesn't matter. Here's a story for context. My first job, I was underpaid by 10k/y-15k/y, but it was stable and the people were good, so I stayed. In my last year, because I had now been there for 5 years they gave me that 15k/y raise. That company ended up going under soon after. My second job, I was paid 109k/y which was highly overpaid. Get that degree, enjoy it, have fun doing it, find what makes you release the goody-good chemical in your brain and let that guide you. Don't worry about jobs.

[@vaibhav5783]

I am a self-taught dev. And it took me like almost 2 years to learn code and secure a internship. It's been 4 months. It is a startup so they did not ask any DSA, They gave me a task like If user hover over image it should remove that part and become transparent and user can download that image. I built some projects mainly full stack chat app and another reddit like app, I used these tech stack Typescript, Next js, React, Mongobd, Go, swagger doc to document api. Learning was full ngl. As I am doing internship I am learning go, understanding how Data structure works. Any suggestion you want to give me, like What should I focus to become good SWE and build cool projects?

[@BrainFreezeMC]

@@vivas555 thank you, I appreciate it. Haha the goody good chemical

[@aka0221]

Hi, I completely agree with your perspective. As a junior CS student working in web development on campus, I've also noticed how companies often prioritize LeetCode skills over practical experience. It feels like the focus should be on real-world problem-solving and relevant skills rather than just algorithmic puzzles.

[@1lann]

Can confirm Lasse's great. Sorry that the market's been so rough for new grads though, I think you'll do great in your interviews ;) I hope you get an offer soon!

[@sidasdf]

Ended up in basically the same situation as you (great internship, no return offer), and just got my full time offer this week. Hang in there man!

[@steveandcow_]

keeping it 💯 with us! we'll keep grinding 💪

[@ChickanWang]

hi stephen

[@jordenrodriguez5293]

College is so stupid, Im already full time employed as a web developer at 20(im 21 now) and currently have 4 interviews, 3 of which are for 6 figure full time jobs. Ive literally only been coding for 2 years and im self taught. Why does anyone pose at coding doing these internships and still not get it? I have all these opportunities because I avoided the fluff of acting like a programmer at school, drinking my latte, making videos and actually learned the skills that made me desirable.

[@saladHz]

How did you land the interviews? What did you put on your resume? Personal Projects?

[@vivas555]

Alright, let's see. As someone who's hiring junior dev, why should I hire you ? What are those skills that make you so desirable ? Do you code well ?

[@JorgenJorgensenSonofJorgen]

Why do you sound so angry. If you've found success in your life with the decisions that you have made, then you should just be happy about that

[@TrieuNguyen-hx3rl]

I was taught that "when a door is closed, a new door will be opened for you". I did get a new job with x2.5 times the salary to the offer from the company I internship offered. So keep going, don't give up so fast

[@makkialqaosain8872]

I failed to even get an internship 😂. I live in London UK. After trying for a year living off my savings, I gave up. I personally don't think it's the market I'm just not good enough. Currently, I am doing my pgce and qts which is basically a teaching certification. I still enjoy coding and computing and even though I a not good enough to get a job I want to stay involved with it as much as possible. Good luck to all job seekers out there.

[@ibrahimkhawar]

nick, you're awesome

[@fionacai1505]

omg NO WAY

[@delberter]

I think it’s time to become a professional pickle baller

[@nicholast]

i better get training given how recruiting is going so far

[@andrew-lu4kd]

the audio mixing was rough dawg

[@nicholast]

my bad all the leetcoding has gotten to me

[@mikelaw5001]

😂😂​@@nicholast

[@Nazgenyanly]

good luck man, shits rough rn

[@ThePurelutz]

a word of warning concerning college: that "prestigious" college was just a marketing ruse to steal your money. you'll never get rich working a job cuz you don't OWN the business so your pay will never equal the effort you put in. salaries are an EXPENSE to the business so the worker interest is in direct opposition to that of the business owner which is to increase profits. in fact most are overworked and underpaid at their job. also, if you have more time you can make more money, but with more money you can't buy time. the best thing you can do is to commit suicide so businesses can no longer exploit your labor anymore. real talk and it didn't take a phD degree to figure that out. ;P

[@tutosCasuales]

Hey Nick! Please released the part 4 of the code interview series

[@stonebanks3964]

Guys don't look at the title it's a spoiler!

[@icydive4223]

You're stacked asf my man

[@nicholast]

unemployed asf

[@sw9276]

I feel you buddy! I'm looking for a new job as well. I have to say, the job market nowadays is confusing. Many companies keep outsourcing entry-level positions while desperately searching for experienced senior engineers. Don't they realize that experienced engineers don't just appear out of thin air? I finally understand what it means when they say “Outdated production relations hinder the development of productive forces.”

[@aakadutta]

you got this bro. you def got this. apply to other db companies. try orchestration tools companies liel dagster etc

[@LOLjerel]

I didn't get a return offer either. This job market is insane.

[@lassenordahl]

please come back

[@marsh_gl3605]

Have you tried using a hash map?

[@BigCocoEnergy]

Check out manufacturing companies that need software engineers/data science analysts…they are looking for young and eager professionals like YOU bro

[@BigCocoEnergy]

Only con is that they’re in boring places like Ohio😭

[@jasondsouza6422]

another Nicholas tao classic

[@kageyamatobio6238]

Yea it’s pretty rough… I’m on my last co-op and going to request a past employer for a full-time offer but applying externally as well. Hopefully things get better asap lol

[@thomasandrews9355]

I recently got hired as an SDET, it was only because I had a reference. My tech challenge was to find the bugs in their homemade calculator. It was a Clojure jar file...I ended up reverse engineering it and reworking the entire file. They've since improved it to be easier to fuzz...but what fun is it that? Any way my point is...I applied to tons of places, none replied back despite my background. It's awful right now, don't give up!

[@rosh9103]

Worked a internship over summer. Busted my ass working early mornings to late nights including weekends. Made some fantastic revenue for the company... Didn't get hired. I get it bro, but just grind career fairs and apply frantically something will come up.

[@jackyyeung3616]

Bro... you are from Waterloo... YOU WILL get an offer eventually. Waterloo are king of maths and quantitative programs. Job market is sat, but you are going to be on the top priority when it comes to job offer... unless you really F up on job interviews.

[@thekinggamer21]

Been following you for 3 years, both our situations got better before, what's one more challenge

[@red_amoguss]

Reneging an offer is fine. The company can retrench you if they want, why bother extending the same grace back to them?

[@ervincosic7656]

Don't stress about it after you graduate with a degree and 6 internships in your pocket you're probably killing it already for a starter job. If you dont get anything (doubt it really do) come to Europe developers are here always spammed by job offers. Probably wont be making 100k but in Europe 70k is already killing it.

[@boredguy5805]

It's not that easy right now, I know people with 2 years of internship experience that can't get jobs, barely interviews. Such a different market from 2020-2021

[@vinhtiennguyen9876]

It was sooo easy to get a job in this market back then but now more and more people are choosing to study IT for their college branch so the workforce is inflated so most of the IT graduate are unemployed :(​@@boredguy5805

[@connorclancy6508]

Pickleball during your onsites!

[@DylanDocker]

You didn't get one yet but you still could? Also, tell Pan you "can't be bothered with legal"

[@sw9276]

The pessimist may be right, yet the optimist keeps moving forward. The job market is tough, and we have no choice but to keep trying.

[@s8x.]

funny seeing the title cuz i got a call saying i won’t be getting an offer too😂

[@ckay-]

Bro got a glow up

[@Izzy-ve3xz]

6 internships during a 4 year degree? Or is it 5 years? Lol. I think you'll be fine in the job market even without the return offer.

[@nicholast]

yeah we do 6 internships during the 5-year program. a lot of my friends are struggling too rn- it's rough out there

[@champipy]

Is that the fake Caltech course that you are promoting? 👀👀

[@octagear]

speaking volume up, sfx volume down

[@williamgardner1568]

Definitely different than Marketing interns, there aren't offer letter and even if they're were, I'm not sure anyone would take it lol

[@wrightsolution]

Bro got a glow up 💀

[@dabocousin]

Bro how tf do you look younger than you did 3 years ago

[@ibrahimkhawar]

nick where's the hack the north vid at

[@pepperdayjackpac4521]

At least you've had an internship. A lot of us out here can't even get one by the time we graduate.

[@jbca]

He’s probably in the Waterloo program where several internships are a mandatory component, I’m not sure if he could even graduate without doing them. They help you find placements, but most of my friends ended up in shitty companies for most of theirs: if he’s interning at Cockroach he was at least above average for the program.

[@ryankan1711]

i was drunk and talked to you outside mission and you said you were a youtuber lol

[@bicyclekikz14]

Hey Nicholas what gadgets you use to do KZbin?

[@nicholast]

canon m50, dji wireless mic

[@bicyclekikz14]

@@nicholast ❤️

[@onelastkiwi8041]

NICHOLAS TRAINING ARC

[@arshitvaghasiya7317]

where's nicholas? 😭

[@classictimmy]

7:42 which job board are you using? 👀

[@nicholast]

there's a few github repos with these jobs- you can find them by googling "2025 new grad github"

[@OGrnator]

Your mentor looks like Michael from Jane the virgin

[@a.m.4154]

But you mentioned on Pan's video that you got 300k offer. Was that a joke?

[@alterdawn]

same situation rn lol

[@leonardwang4219]

full time pickleball

[@amritthapa7796]

boiiii you don't wanna do data science. You just wanted to set up for the ad hahaha 🤣

[@Moch117]

Such a click bait title lol. You literally state in the video other interns didn’t get anything either so it’s not just you

[@Numbermind]

dude why are you whispering? wtf bad sound quality

[@rgolanng]

breathe bro

[@scarlettran-]

what website ur using at 7:42

[@nicholast]

there's a few github repos with these jobs- you can find them by googling "2025 new grad github"

[@gmhussein]

6 internships you'll be fine 🤣.

[@huongpham3580]

haha i did not have return offer from big tech company as well ha ha ha

[@DereC519]

naur

[@droppadeuce-f1s]

bruh why u talkin like u got a sleepy voice u sound jay LOL

[@Aetherakabane]

Damm

[@brianlee9798]

It's time to ask Pan for a offer:)

[@theyoutubejourney2024]

@nicholast how do you manage both KZbin and your Engineering career at the same time?