Nick Bostrum - Could Our Universe Be a Fake?

[@Lockyplayer]

I can’t imagine the imagination required to imagine what exists beyond my imagination..

[@carlz28]

And that, is why you’ll never be successful!

[@koolzjackz8401]

Nice🧐.. Kool quote Justin! 😁

[@bryannaliebsack6187]

Stan and Kyle know 🌈

[@muhammadlaraibfarooqui2016]

Plz take medicine

[@sirskeletor7931]

Because it's beyond your imagination😉

[@soubhikmukherjee6871]

Reality is a giant hallucination. The word hallucination refers to something that has appearance but entirely lacks any kind of substance. The absolute nature of reality is exactly like that.

[@xspotbox4400]

You can't see through hallucination, or you wouldn't be hallucinating.

[@VCRAGE]

@@xspotbox4400 that's why some people who can change their mental frequency tend to experience a different version of consensus reality.

[@rickv4473]

My imaginary friends get very nervous when i watch videos like this.

[@thedudegrowsfood284]

This video crashed my computer in minecraft.

[@Evan490BC]

They may even stop talking to you...

[@omegabiker]

get some real imaginary friends

[@deathbydeviceable]

@@omegabiker mine are real

[@NerdOutWithMe]

So reality is just an online game, where those controlling us are all in a room laughing, eating, and drinking Jolt cola.

[@xspotbox4400]

Listen to him, he must be with developers.

[@NerdOutWithMe]

@@xspotbox4400 Maybe he can make me a nice quiet cabin on a lake.

[@xspotbox4400]

@@NerdOutWithMe Only if you can breathe on guilds, and you don't mind mold everywhere.

[@darioinfini]

@@xspotbox4400 Developers developers developers developers developers. Developers developers developers developers developers. YEAH! - Steve Ballmer

[@vladimir0700]

It’s just a pathetic sadist we refer to as god

[@spiralx6249]

For me, there's a hole at the centre of this donut. We don't actually know what "consciousness" is. We don't have a generally accepted working description or definition. So - like Schrodinger - we're talking round the subject, trying to create a nuts-and-bolts mechanical functionality, without really understanding what we are working with.

[@1SpudderR]

Hmm? We don’t even know what structure is.........Except Conscious is mind and Mind is Conscious not materialised...Looks like we have to wait for Einstein Two....providing/Hoping? he/she is not one of the “starving kids”!?....If we are not careful our solution will Be “one of his three possibilities”..

[@LeighRobinsonBushcraft]

Yes, scientists do not know what 'consciousness is'. They're not able to replicate it even with modelling the brain. The latest thinking is perhaps consciousness is some some of quantum manifestation happening in the brain.

[@ddgyt50]

My favorite science class quote by my 8th grade science teacher, Mrs. Pascal: "For all we know, we are nothing more than the dream of an amoeba in the bloodstream of a flea."

[@mc-gl8rx]

So the big bang was someone booting up the computer for the first time.

[@chesterhackenbush]

The Array initialising.

[@mc-gl8rx]

@@chesterhackenbush Good point

[@NurmemetAbliz]

Could be , or it may be the beginning of just one iteration of cosmic loops inside the function called universe . And this function maybe the just small part of the bigger script that fakes the grand reality .

[@kobe51]

That make more sense

[@brianadams5996]

The big bang theory has more holes than the Chinese womens swimteam. And don't get me started on evolution theory. Horseshit galore. We humans come up with a theory and when data doesn't fit our conclusions we change things

[@jamesnordblom855]

Seems kind of cliché to point out that if it is an illusion, it's damned convincing.

[@nihlify]

Well, people believe in Gods that there's zero real world evidence of. Saying something is so real it can't be an illusion at least not worse and you could argue that a lot of things we experience as real actually aren't (provable). And something like the quantum world doesn't manifest on the macro scale, but it's still there.

[@darrenelkins5923]

Thing is , we wouldn’t know how hard it would be to be convincing. Many people have dreams that they swear were real. People swear very incorrect things are true, such as seeing bugs bunny at Disneyland

[@bozo5632]

Or it could be shite, and you're just well programmed to be convinced.

[@brandursimonsen4427]

That deception governs our universe is a bad idea.

[@johnyharris]

It's only convincing because you know no other truth. It can't possibly be anything other than totally convincing.

[@Sonus1002]

4:01 Absolutely, even your brain can simulate such people and even whole realities. It's called dreaming. We don't need super computers.

[@kyntyckykobra3300]

Imagine that you imagine that there's no beer 🍻😁🌵

[@swavekbu4959]

The more intelligent u are the more u admit u don't know. Only fools think they know.

[@darioinfini]

I've sometimes pondered if the universe as we know it is itself THE simulation. By that I mean, you understand how if you look at the sun reflected on a pond on a windy day the waves reflect the sun and break it up into sparkles and dark in a repeating yet random pattern. To do this with a computer requires ridiculous amounts of processing effort. Yet the water and the sun does this in real time -- no processing at all. Seemingly. But what if that was specifically it? What if the fact that water and light do this IS a real time simulation of what those "conceptual things" would do? What if reality itself is a giant, distributed processing system that calculates and processes in real time? We could be living in a real universe as we know it, completely unaware that reality itself IS the simulation.

[@ramaraksha01]

Yes that is what they are saying - not just us but everything we see is a simulation

[@darioinfini]

@@ramaraksha01 No I think they're saying everything we see is a simulation running on "some machine" somewhere. I'm saying maybe what we're living in IS the machine. Every wave and particle IS the hardware the simulation is running on.

[@jessejagg3d]

This is an excellent observation. Think about your brain itself, which holds your consciousness. It doesn't directly detect the world its in, but uses the organs of the body to approximate a representation of the world that best suits our biological hardware. In this sense what we experience is a simulation based on software (consciousness) and hardware (biology).

[@darioinfini]

@@jessejagg3d Indeed. So a brain-based simulation running in a possible "reality" simulation. It's possible that multi-tiered simulation is already happening based on this discussion alone.

[@jessejagg3d]

@@darioinfini I agree. If I extend these ideas to the furthest limits of my imagination, I can conceptualize a layered, simulated reality where consciousness is a continuum in much the same way that spacetime is a continuum. Imagine the implications. Remarkable.

[@claudiozanella256]

" How could we ever know if our universe is a fake? " This possibility could exist, but in this case we had no way to find it out because we would be largely outsmarted by the game creators.

[@kukakbear5618]

Leave off the s and capitalize "creator" and you will be closer to the truth

[@eternallight88]

Quit the game. Break the rules. See what happens to the parameters.

[@0ptimal]

I've imagined that maybe prior beings had evolved so much that eventually they reached a state of being stagnant blobs of brain. With no more real struggles or resistance from the real world. So they created a simulation that they could enter, to experience real life, to grow and evolve. And the only way it could work is if you went in new, with no awareness of anything so you would perceive that simulation as real.

[@clemsonalum98]

How do we know life doesn’t evolve at smaller or larger scales, like galaxies are molecules in a being?

[@tonoornottono]

what if evolution is not a feature of biology, but of the universe?

[@cps_Zen_Run]

Web, because we have found the natural laws consistent. Therefore molecules are made of atoms, and those of life forms have specific elements. Most stars are made of hydrogen and helium.

[@bozo5632]

@@cps_Zen_Run Not so fast.

[@iBaudan]

That’s what I always think. Maybe the aliens are so small that we can’t see them.

[@ramaraksha01]

@@iBaudan It would make sense - use less energy that way

[@Elmachable]

Maybe... human civilisation ended looong time ago and now machnes keep memory of what we were as we travel through the universe ... untill we reach next planet to populate. Just memories in a loop.

[@furbs9999]

If I'm in a simulation, I have no idea what a real universe looks like.

[@cps_Zen_Run]

Furbs, I think we share a common reality. However, our senses and brain only gives us a simulation of it. Just enough to survive and reproduce.

[@andromaxbse6459]

@@cps_Zen_Run somewhat agree with you.

[@bozo5632]

Probably almost exactly like our future, or it wouldn't be a useful sim.

[@rockybalboa8378]

Furbs we can all be living in a Truman show!

[@engelbertus1406]

the basic flaw to his argument is that assuming consciousness is a result of computing power. There is literally zero evidence that consciousness arises as a result of computing power. Computing as we construct it is also based on lineair algorithms which have a start-direction-end. I’m trying to simply open my mind for other possibilities. Maybe consciousness is the cause of a reality that computes itself through non-lineair quantum computing, where there are no separations between anything. That which is being computed reflects the computing reflects itself etcetera. Any statement of “simulation” must have a reference point of what indeed remains “reality”. If by this logic, a subject in a simulation can figure out it is being simulated, it must do so based on a point of reference that is unmistakingly provable to be real or reality. If the subject in a simulation has no point of reference to a provable concept of some real reality, then anything it refers to as being a simulation is reality itself. It will find itself reflecting upon its own situation, where it thought itself to be real for it needed a concept of real to survive and evolve. Or maybe not, animals can live and evolve without any concepts of real or simulation. So, what is actually happening is that we are constructing higher and complexer levels of language that are reflecting to our understanding mind the situation in which it is experiencing, and the very thin almost soluble layer of truth to be experienced that remains as a result of that.

[@pooorman-diy1104]

when a laptop camera captured 650nm electromagnetic wave reflected by a red apple .. what kind of computational algorithm able to enjoy the REDNESS of the apple ??????????????? .....??????????? ....?????????? in other words ..it's IMPOSSIBLE .. when you want to create artificial consciousness (using conputers ..etc) ..first you need to DEFINE the things you want to create (ie: consciousness) .. ..but alas .... there is no milimeter progress made in science since hundreds years ago .. even in DEFINING what actually consciousness is .... Let alone in creating it ... LOL ...

[@Trp44]

I am enjoying your work so much recently, did something change👀💯💯💯

[@donniebrookings3695]

The universe is not fake the people are.

[@eternallight88]

The Veils of Maya.

[@benjimanlee]

Guns don’t kill people rappers do!!

[@edholohan]

Takes one to know one....

[@Scribe13013]

It's all made of energy either way

[@MrJohndl]

Imagine there's no Cosmos....it's easy if you try....

[@iainmair485]

John Lennon.

[@-Kal-]

It’s all a god damn fake man. It’s like Lenin said: You look for the person who will benefit and uhh, uhh…. I am the walrus.

[@stianmathisen4284]

Life in this universe contains so much existential contradiction and lack of consensus that it is most likely to be an temporary simulation meant for individual training with efficient feedback as an fundamental idea or intensjon, this is the only concept that makes sense. So in my opinion the point of life in this "fake" or virtual universe being some kind of an subjective consciousness trainer with "physical"(virtual) reality outplayed on demand, with or without several consciousness individual bits of consciousness part taking, is the most logical alternative. There is so many different worlds, but we have just one world....Mark Knophler sings, lets substitute we with one to "but one have just one world"...then it makes perfect sense. Thomas Campbell must be happy with Bostrøms effort in this matter!

[@Chris73619]

I can't imagine having a camera guy focusing his camera on the back of someones head instead of the main subject...

[@eternallight88]

Depends on what you're interested in man...

[@Bill..N]

When Phillip K Dick called the press together in the late 1960s for an important announcement, they didn't suspect he was intending to reveal his firm belief that our world was a computer simulation..He was of course mocked severely..This idea is probably wrong but always fascinating..Thanks..

[@Bill..N]

PS..Could such advanced simulators be simulated as well..?

[@kanchokomancho4854]

Universe is the maximum synergy-of-synergies, being utterly unpredicted by any of its parts.

[@BalSimon]

And of course, the simulators are also simulated. Turtles all the way down - and up.

[@Williamb612]

folks the universe is an organic simulation…it has physical rules, laws of constancy, 4 immutable forces, and is constantly adapting in space/time…we emerged from these constraints and live, adapt and thrive because of them…we also have no idea why everything around us exists but we have learned how to harness all these variables to continue to learn and grow… This is what a sim is…it is not a digital sim but an organic one

[@DK-ox7ze]

So what exactly are the three arguments?

[@tarsem3258]

1) All human-like civilizations in the universe go extinct before they develop the technological capacity to create simulated realities; 2) if any civilizations do reach this phase of technological maturity, none of them will bother to run simulations; or 3) advanced civilizations would have the ability to create many, many simulations, and that means there are far more simulated worlds than non-simulated ones.

[@DK-ox7ze]

@@tarsem3258 Thanks. It's interesting that Nick picked second one to be most likely amongst the three, because if second one is true, it means we likely aren't in a simulation!

[@MrRamon2004]

Say the universe is fake, is to say we are fake, and life is not fake. In this life and the next one stay in the light.

[@morganandreason]

This line of argument is a quadrillion times more convincing to me than any Theistic/Deistic hypothesis. Yet I lean towards assuming that neither is true.

[@peaceonearth351]

But it took 13.7 billion years for a creature to even ponder that question.

[@andromaxbse6459]

Theistic/Deistic would require you to believe first without giving you evidence.

[@dongshengdi773]

"A fundamental conclusion of the new physics also acknowledges that the observer creates the reality. AS observers, we are personally involved with the creation of our own reality. Physicists are being forced to admit that the universe is a "mental" construction. - R.C. Henry, Professor of Physics and Astronomy at Johns Hopkins University , “The Mental Universe” ; (Nature 436:29,2005)

[@xspotbox4400]

Now, it doesn't, you can stare at tho goat's entire day and nothing will change because of that.

[@dongshengdi773]

@@xspotbox4400 That's materialism (which Kuhn) has mentioned many times in his channel . it's a Collective consciousness , (some physicists call it Cosmic consciousness) . Information saved in each particle also affects other particles, like the "measuring device" serves as the extension of an Observer. That's why it remains a goat. Quantum mechanics actually points to a middle way between these two extremes of materialism and solipsism, a realization that both Werner Heisenberg and Wolfgang Pauli eventually reached. This means that the formulation of quantum mechanics actually points to the philosophical viewpoint of the Middle Way which would allow us to include the role of consciousness in quantum physics without ending up in the extremes of either solipsism or materialism.

[@nsc2443]

Big plot twist. Universe is a giant brain and our lives are in the dreams of Universe.

[@BoSS-dw1on]

Maybe God had to limit us finding new particles until He could get a CPU upgrade and memory expansion on His super computer to simulate them.

[@ramaraksha01]

If God exists then it would confirm that we are in a simulation since God cannot explain how he came to be with all his incredible powers - it is more likely that God is in someone's computer and given these powers

[@bryannaliebsack6187]

How dare you misgender Ariana Grande

[@morbidmanmusic]

No god needed

[@AtticusMB6]

Hail Satan!

[@vladimir0700]

he/it

[@MsAssylum]

Consiousness is nothing and conciousness is everything.Nothing = Anything

[@Jinxed007]

What about a simulation created by one consciousness into billions of iterations in order to experience this kind of existence from as many perspectives as possible all while being able to explore the universe it created?

[@ramaraksha01]

Did you not watch the video? They don't have to create billions - just a few people - all we are exposed to are a few people at a time - so these people exist when you interact with them and then the computer deletes them when you no longer interact with them

[@Jinxed007]

Of course I watched the video. I'm giving my thoughts on a different scenario is all.

[@dongshengdi773]

The observer gives the world the power to come into being, through the very act of giving meaning to that world; in brief, No consciousness; no communicating community to establish meaning? Then no world!" - Physicist John Wheeler … Pioneering physicist Sir James Jeans wrote: “The stream of knowledge is heading toward a non-mechanical reality; the universe begins to look more like a great thought than like a great machine. Mind no longer appears to be an accidental intruder into the realm of matter, we ought rather hail it as the creator and governor of the realm of matter. Get over it, and accept the inarguable conclusion. The universe is immaterial-mental and spiritual.” ~ from Collective Evolution

[@xspotbox4400]

No, it doesn't, communication doesn't mean participants must share factual information.

[@E_Cleazy]

This is all nonsensical double talk.

[@eternallight88]

Morpheus: "The matrix is a system Neo, that system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."

[@Longevity-gu1ut]

Has anyone checked out the incremental compression conjecture?

[@tkfg331]

"The Incremental Compression Conjecture (ICC) is a conjecture about the fundamental nature of our universe. It states that our universe is the result of an incremental compression operation. Within computer science, there are two forms of compression; lossy and lossless." This still make no sense to me... I'm still lost.

[@vladimir0700]

Incremental who conjecture what

[@Longevity-gu1ut]

Google it

[@Longevity-gu1ut]

Takes some time to read but worth it imo

[@donfarlan214]

Its like life when its over it never existed

[@user-bk4pu9qn5n]

Infinite possibilities, councessnes, information, energies, vibrations, frequencys, imagination...infinite, infinitys,from canvas of nothingness. ..

[@descartes6797]

I have to admit, this is a really nice cozy office, Mr. Bostrom. It looks very comfortable.

[@Micas099]

I often see discussions about the simulation hypothesis involve "computing power". I don't think computing power much matters. What matters is the algorithm. If a simulation ran very slowly in base reality (as Musk describes), things within the sim would have no idea. If in base reality, the computer that runs the simulation takes an hour to calculate one minute of time within the simulation, the sentient creatures in the simulation wouldn't know. The computer could even pause and resume without the creatures within noticing. I do find it interesting the universe culls like a video game. In quantum mechanics, the wave function doesn't collapse until observation. No sense rendering something that isn't being observed.

[@xspotbox4400]

Why bother, programmers could make you blind and dumb to details they don't want you to see and think about. Computer power matters a lot, you would need way more electricity to power computers than reality actually uses to exist. Wave function doesn't have anything to do with observers, it collapses because of the measurement, because any device used will become a part of the experiment.

[@everready2903]

Absolutely. I suspect we're in a simulated reality. I believe in the spiritual. Is makes much more sense for the spiritual realm to create a simulation of the physical rather than the physical with so much unnecessary mass for nothing.

[@jenniferdavis2110]

Yeah there's a SPIRIT REALM but we definitely NOT IN IT..cause we're still alive otherwise we'll be able to hang out with the dead and Scientist sez that there are 11 dimensions or more.

[@ramaraksha01]

And where exactly is this spiritual realm? Can you give any details of it except for we just hand around there will be peace and joy - a useless meaningless pointless existence for eternity - yeah makes sense

[@everready2903]

@@jenniferdavis2110 I believe all our thoughts are spiritual. Ok we don't generally have access to other spiritual dimensions although some people claim too. Perhaps however those spiritual plains have access to our thoughts. Some NDE experiencers have said they could feel people around their bodies thoughts.

[@everready2903]

@@ramaraksha01 You'll probably reincarnate in another body perhaps in another galaxy. I remember seeing someone who had a DMT experience say they told the being that met them that wanted to stay but the being said "you never want to stay here long".

[@ramaraksha01]

@@everready2903 No, you get the life that you want - we are given this human life - most find life difficult & religions are happy to take advantage by promising an eternal joyful life - some magic being happy to be a Sugar Daddy and cater to the comforts of billions because see, they believed he existed & used the "right" name for him I constantly pinch myself to make sure I am living in an educated 21st century society Anyway, since the easy lazy life is what they want, they might end up as Ghosts Get to hang around in a dusty old mansions, no pain or suffering, no hunger or thirst & since they are already dead, they will "live" forever! OR They are reborn as Dogs - free food, shelter, protected & cared for - lay about all day, nothing to do, zero worries - Heaven!

[@mybluemars]

"Closer To Truth" was a tv series from 2000 to 2003. This fact should be mentioned in the description.

[@bruhweexist]

It has 20 seasons with new episodes being released.

[@as.akshat.sharma]

Evem If computers show the simulation, humans wont be able to make sense of it...it wont matter until you achieve that conciousness yourself

[@imonymous]

You misspelled Bostrom in your title.

[@stayingalive992]

i was wondering how one can verify all these experimentally...

[@LeighRobinsonBushcraft]

That is a great question. If it is a simulation, perhaps we could look for evidence of error corrections in the code. Just like software that has bug fixes. I wouldn't think the simulation would run perfect first time. So we should see evidence of improvement or patches. I don't know what would be classed as 'the code' though and perhaps i've just argued for the possibility of multiverses where different physics have been simulated.

[@rickwyant]

The kind of computational power he's talking about is beyond anything we will ever be capable of.

[@DartNoobo]

Why would you care about that? We don't need that power, "they" do.

[@bernardcohen3245]

I don’t understand a fucking thing but I honestly don’t know how I could go to sleep without Lawrence for one night

[@BradHolkesvig]

All you need to do is live among "conscious" animals to see that all created minds are individually processing information to form visible images for them to experience. Each consciousness of an animal is processing different information for them to experience and its very easy to see that.

[@sean_heisler]

I always feel like somebody’s watching me and I have no privacy.

[@withgoddess1119]

Lol that's just reality you're experiencing

[@eternallight88]

Who are you?

[@vladimir0700]

You’re paranoid

[@garshdarnitibelieve8260]

So who observes the observer's?

[@eternallight88]

Consciousness

[@suatustel746]

There has had to be hard core :possibly absolute reality is the property of programmers, obviously immortality belong those kinds, then they play down the potentials either curiosity fun experiment or some other reasons...

[@grahamblack1961]

A simulation of what?

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

Can understanding how brain and consciousness works tell us something about who made us or what we came from?

[@bonesaw6601]

I suspect that quantum physics is an integral component of consciousness, but what do I know?

[@carlz28]

Not very much, obviously 🙄

[@ramaraksha01]

You can't just speculate and say I wonder like a little child - back it up - do some research

[@bonesaw6601]

@@ramaraksha01 And then I will know like you lol

[@RoflcopterGalore]

@@ramaraksha01 of course you can. You're in the KZbin comments section. Anything is possible here.

[@bonesaw6601]

@@carlz28 your brilliance is blinding.

[@jellojiggle1]

If Im in a simulation how do I hack the system? I need a new car! 🤣

[@ryans-7]

console: how do you turn this on

[@TasosNetPlayer]

You already did. Right? ;)

[@asolarasolarasolar]

When was it recorded?

[@chyfields]

The matrix that I am creating begins with a pulse of energy programmed to explore all infinities. My matrix is loaded with purpose, primarily to explore all aspects of love. Truth is the constant. All attributes of personality are cloaked in the most suitable form.

[@ayoubzahiri1918]

And evolution's point is to head to the best form possible for the best experience possible

[@ayoubzahiri1918]

Being the only one in the universe was so haunting that creating false separate beings from me was a must so i can experience multiplicity

[@dongshengdi773]

Consciousness or Spirit or Life is like water. The cosmos is the source of life as the ocean is the source of water. The water is one and at the same time, water can be many. The water in my home is different from the water in the ocean , even though it came from the ocean. And when I make a beverage in a cup, then that water becomes different with its own individuality. It becomes my tea, my coffee, my juice, etc. The spirit is like Life in the cosmos, and/or the water in the ocean. When a spirit becomes alive in some life form, ie. plants or animals, then that life becomes unique with its own personality or individuality.

[@xspotbox4400]

@@dongshengdi773 Give me a bottle of consciousness than, please. Perhaps liquid consciousness can turn into an alcohol vapor.

[@cryptowhale1615]

@@xspotbox4400 Sure, here you go.

[@vincecallagher7636]

You will find whatever you look for.

[@jogriffin9347]

I can’t find gold

[@coudry1]

I am " a consciousness" like an ocean, and my body is like a fish swimming in it. Water is all around me, the medium through which I pass. The water flows in the gills of the fish, all the gills of my fish go through... and the ocean is one. I experienced and felt what I went through from a different perspective. As evidence to erase all memories in our bodies, leave only the consciousness, then connect our consciousness, and feel who we are??

[@danield3358]

yeah, but who created the simulators?

[@pinakkoladaa]

Who? Do you need the name or what? Obviously, someone created all. Someone who is way more bigger and powerful than us, than this whole universe. It's kind of scary and amazing.

[@denzilnagel254]

If we truly are simulated, then everything that might seem like a glitch to us May not be seen as a glitch to our developers, for only the developers will decide what is considered a glitch.

[@sellophakoe7245]

Nick before the Schrödinger glasses.

[@christoroppolo8742]

Consciousness is the key👽

[@nickolasgaspar9660]

After reading Mario Bunge book "Philosophy in Crisis" I can understand why people think that such questions qualify as philosophical ones....

[@jeffreykalb9752]

Could modern science be a fake? I don't see how one could deny it at this point.

[@superhetoric]

deny what?

[@markemerson98]

Why would the creators of such a simulation allow us to be aware of the simulation…

[@piratedgenes]

for teh lulz??

[@SimplifiedTruth]

Progressive revelation to avoid panic maybe? Kind of like gently waking someone up instead of yelling.

[@encrypted505]

Wild theories, would be good to have some at least mathematical proofs supporting it.

[@DrSbaitsojr]

you're silly.

[@mangalvnam2010]

It could be a playground, as well as an experiment or even some garden or a nursery to grow minds, for example to überly connect these, to establish huge mindnets with colossal processing power, maybe to run simulacra of nested universes of an onion-ish multiverse, etc. The possibilities are vast, and perhaps the very fact that we already can imagine, conceive them is in some way signficative, even if for now we still don't know significative of the hell what!? And what is more: some things we have been discovering somehow sound or appear kinda suspiciously like built-in easter eggs or clues: "did they discover the mathematical undecidabilities, yet?", that kind of thing, complex numbers, Fibonacci, that unreasonable effectiveness of math, milestones to mark the progress of the minds under controlled growing??

[@Rocky_Anunnaki]

I am in The matrix and I just took the red pill

[@porscheonly9705]

“Professing themselves to be wise they become fools”

[@tripyramidpictures9224]

The video started out blurry

[@djacob7]

That's ridiculous! For the universe to be simulated, the simulator would have to be an entity outside the universe, and that's absurd.

[@rosswatson5996]

That's why the supra intelligence aka God, eternal existence is outside of space and time.

[@marccas10]

Lol. And multiple dimensions and many worlds theory are just cast iron?

[@djacob7]

@@rosswatson5996 So there exists something outside the universe that simulated the universe, including every sub-atomic particle?

[@djacob7]

@@marccas10 Maybe copper.

[@marccas10]

@@djacob7 lol. Or Brass.

[@Dodgevair]

Congressional Hearings MUST be held to address the 70+ yr ongoing ET cover-up.

[@joanneroper5682]

This channel is fucking AMAZING!!!

[@Mrbrownstone1028]

Are you fucking SINGLE???

[@joanneroper5682]

@@Mrbrownstone1028 I'm a guy on my girlfriend's KZbin account lol....I mean what girls do you know who watch channels like this!?

[@babakbandpey]

If this is a simulation then the simulation can also be a simulation and then.... So the only thing that is left are thoughts. Thinking is the source of the simulation.

[@innertubez]

Even if the universe is fake, it’s still real.

[@commetking9746]

Ha ha Robert your flashy Porsche is just a mere simulation 🤣🤣

[@nickolasgaspar9660]

I wonder if we can successfully use that in a court of law after stealing his Porsche....

[@RichardSchouteren]

Isn’t consciousnesses an emerging property from our brains as is evolution from particles physics? Both cannot be explained solely by the underlying structure.

[@newdawnrising8110]

We actually are in a kind of simulation that is created by a higher mind. “In the beginning was the Word…”

[@pascalbercker7487]

I'm very curious as to when this interview was conducted. He looks quite young to me here, but Wikipedia says he's 48 years old. He can't be 48 years old in this interview .... can he?

[@laochen8869]

This is from February 2013. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJ_PZ6GPbb5-ftU

[@NAVMAN987]

Computation is substrate dependent.

[@eternallight88]

Exactly. This whole idea is a metaphor at best.

[@PorcelainKilt]

What reality is our experience simulating.

[@kertebrahimi8469]

Please do a video about human specie's limit of gaining knowledge.All animals as we perceive have a limit for learning.No matter how one tries A DOG will not be able to understand two plus two makes four.Do we have a limit like this?

[@ericjohnson6665]

If the universe if fake, define "real." "Indistinguishable from the original..." "original" what? You guys sound like you high on something... "Somebody programs the computer..." I'm pretty sure an FX department will never, ever, have a "computer / holodeck" that's that strong.

[@georgebyron468]

How can we ask if our universe is fake? Fake compared to what reality and a reality to who?

[@penultimatename6677]

My concern if in a simulation are two fold. The funding could get cut. If we figure out the theory of everything...game over!

[@S3RAVA3LM]

Life could be fake? Everything that the cosmos is: stars, solar system, planets, nature, eco system is alive. Where is this question about fake universe coming from? Or is it really about ones state in consciousness which may not be what they thought it were

[@havenbastion]

If it's not the way it seems to be, then evidence is required to show how it really is. If it cannot be replicably tested, it doesn't count as real.

[@bigben8761]

We assume that whatever being is creating the simulation are "experts" at this. They can simulate an entire universe. What if we are in an early model. I just think the presumption that if they have the ability to do this, they have the best ability. A "me" simulation would be significantly easier to run than a multiple simulitanius consciousness process. Plus given the significantly small take only full simulating one person, means you could run many more of the same simulation at the same time or of multiple single consciousness and statistically complaining the results.

[@robertweir6379]

We live in a universe comprised of abstract structures of one dimension.

[@jdc7923]

William of Ockham, your office is calling.

[@ThomasDoubting5]

That's the road to insanity, they need to spend some time in nature rather than their thought processes. Because it's unlikely they ever get respite from thinking.

[@andromaxbse6459]

Low IQ, avoid(afraid) of thinking process.

[@wildwestproductions3539]

Your mind is real, materiality is simulated.

[@xspotbox4400]

My mind is contained in a material brains.

[@experiencemystique4982]

That's a very interesting assumption, if mind is real( not brains) reality could be manipulate off course. Like from two fishes and three pains nourish 500 people. I like that.

[@eternallight88]

Neither mind nor matter is real. What is real is only the Self which is beyond both mind and body.

[@experiencemystique4982]

@@eternallight88 and both are equally TRUTH calmez vous. You are not taking the best perception. Mind control matter, but spiritual mind control the SELF, Universe in whole or Holly if the path of the believers

[@eternallight88]

@@experiencemystique4982 Mind does not control matter and "spiritual mind" does not control Self... Life itself is telling it's story to us all... Everything simply happens automatically according to the will of God.

[@bigfletch8]

Compared with what?

[@as.akshat.sharma]

Sir we are heading in the wrong direction, Conciousness cannot be Perceived in 3rd perspective and specially it cannot be Perceived by computer cause again You will be seeing it from Outside amd not experiencing it..........only you can experience your conciousness and In India we have this Yogic System which Is back bone of this.......Thats why India has 130 million Gods and Goddesses....they werr not Not GOD specifically we call them Enlightened being such as Buddha, jesus,mahavir Etc.

[@volkanayyldz889]

What if our universe is inside a glass bowl tucked away in a secure room and our consciousness is connected to it while we are asleep in our capsule and then when we die we wake up in our capsule. All this was just a temporary experience we chose before we were born.

[@neffetSnnamremmiZ]

That's like the question, if realism or antirealism is true. But that we can not answer, it's a distinction (bisection) in thinking. Quantum theory shows that both perspectives (antirrealistic matrix mech. and realistic wave mech.) do generate same empirical results!! Same for the question of determination and freedom, it's both the same. 🤷‍♂️

[@tonysales3687]

i just wanna say..be careful with that firkin joystick. After banging my head on a kitchen cupboard today.

[@MrSanford65]

I think telephones, laptops and televisions are very close to simulated consciousness. When you talk on the telephone for instance , you’re not actually talking to a person you’re talking to a bunch of wires and electrodes. When you’re talking to someone on a laptop, you’re actually talking to an interface , you’re talking to a machine and the machine is reproducing a conscious experience as an illusory feedback. This may be slightly off-topic But it does show how Consciousness can be fooled by machines

[@gavrilable]

Doesn't consciousness know that you are talking to someone on a laptop and what the role of the laptop is in the communication??

[@MrSanford65]

@@gavrilable The role is that you’re not actually talking to someone, You’re talking to a machine and the machine is giving you a representation of a conscious agent. It just goes to the point of how consciousness and connections can be deceived and also transcend intermediate mechanical buffers

[@gavrilable]

@@MrSanford65 lolololol

[@MrSanford65]

@@gavrilable Look for the study they did on KZbin where they put a fake arm in front of somebody and keep stroking it with a feather. Eventually the consciousness disregarded their real arm and incorporated the fake arm as real. Probably a more explicit example of how consciousness is something that is manipulatable , Where as the other artificial arm incorporate by consciousness can be substituted by anything else that is artificial -As an artificial horizon of consciousness

[@angrobin5004]

There’s a limitation to human mind, we aren’t smart enough to explain something deep, thus we come out with many fancy theories. Simulation theory is a fake science, do u honestly think that the characters in the video game can really experience the feeling of love, hate, taste of chocolate?!

[@jogriffin9347]

When we don’t exist anymore then it’s all not real