Nick's Take | Apathy has set in for Cleveland Browns fans

[@trippeddownthestairs8238]

I'm not apathetic; I LOVE that they lost! And I hope that the Browns lose every single game until they fire Paul DePodesta, Andrew Berry, and Kevin Stefanski. And until they release Deshaun Watson. Every single Browns owner, executive, coach, and player deserves this. Every single Browns fan who went to that game today deserves football like that. And every single Browns fan who continues to buy season tickets and merchandise deserves this! The Haslams will never learn anything unless that stadium is empty every Sunday.

[@abdulsmith1569]

Preach times a million 😮

[@ScottCleve33]

Interesting. All those names and you didn't hit on the Browns real problem.

[@sickof36]

💯

[@kidlightning1736]

Apathy set in a long time ago with this team and organization.

[@kevinhurst3709]

Most undisciplined team I've ever seen. Looked like a bunch of clowns.

[@artsandbarts360]

Nick, you are correct….and an attorney friend said it best….all great companies and all bad companies starts with the owners of them. 💯Great companies fire bad employees…aka bad quarterbacks that are not good players, not respected by fans and that have had numerous lawsuits against them and do not even show up to support the team they are supposed to be leaders of…also great company owners fire poor coaches who are not calling the correct offensive plays or coaches that are not teaching details and preparing teams for winning etc…. Also great companies find ways to keep great team leader players who are passionate, grateful leaders like Flacco and our WINston #5 , Jerry Judy, Myles, Chubb, and others -owners should be surrounding them with so much goodness. ❤Bottom line our attorney friend said, when a company is not producing -aka Browns, and everyone knows the reason but the owners don’t get rid of the reason instead changes everything that was good for the problem reason….there goes your season. He said, watch the Browns first game this year the owners should have taken care of it then and there. PS what a great passionate fan base you have in CLE, when I was at a game, they just love the good players you have and so deserve all of that and more 🧡🤎🙌🏻🏈

[@sickof36]

Amen, nick

[@afridgetoofar1818]

Imagine if your Christmas present were Browns tickets 😭

[@OldHickoryAndyJackson]

I can't think of a few choice words better than apathy

[@links5957]

I haven't keep up with the browns since week 1 with cowboys. Been watching NASCAR xD lol watch few games seeing Winston play amazing

[@spudrain]

Fight back. Oppose any public funding for Slippin Jimmys stadium dreams. Let the Browns play at the Rubber Bowl. I know. They tore it down.

[@ScottCleve33]

Winston is doing his best to make Watson look like the starting QB for 2025.

[@ScottCleve33]

@Titus.The_Crucifier you didn't tell me anything I don't already know.

[@ScottCleve33]

@Titus.The_Crucifier however Stefanski isn't running this offense.. This is Dorseys mess. If this were Stefanskis offense it would be running better and they'd be winning more games. Dorsey is a train wreck as offensive coordinator.

[@ScottCleve33]

@@Titus.The_Crucifier the problem is bigger than Dorsey or Winston. It's both of them. Winston took it upon himself to throw three interceptions.

[@ScottCleve33]

@@Titus.The_Crucifier I didn't say the ints were Dorseys fault. I said that they're both terrible. One does not exclude the other from being true

[@ScottCleve33]

@Titus.The_Crucifier Stefanski runsca more ball control offense. Short timing passes and uses the run. He also more creative play calling. Reverses and jet sweeps along with drag routs and slants. He gets the ball out of the QBs hand quicker. On the other hand Dorsey is more predictable. He puts in jumbo formations with extra tight ends or tackle eligible for extra blocking on run plays. Defenses see it coming. Dorsey also has longer developing plays and doesn't do as much picks to get receivers open. Dorsey also runs too often on first downs. Dorsey likes deeper shots as well. Thats for starters.

[@paulhasenauer4166]

Can we be done now with analytics driving the team, go back to tough football minds, discipline, hire Vrabel and a new GM

[@bobwhite2]

They actually played good. 6 turnovers does not often win a game. David Joku is a slug.

[@richardcoreno]

Yet- the stadium will be sold out next season and merch sales will be on an uptick due to new junk on the shelves. And the on bended knee local sports media will have the pom poms out and obediently jump around like a middle school cheer team - as the PR unit for the Haslam Group is supposed to do.

[@Pitchithard]

The whole organization doesn’t know what the hell to do .

[@davidhans8597]

I stopped watching and supporting this team when they were 1 and 6...I get a tv package that I pay for to watch them specifically every year. At 1 and 6 I realized I was wasting my time and money...and cancelled the package! What a fricking disgrace this team is...and next year won't be much better..no quarterback....even if they pick one up or draft one. And the same coaching staff? 2-5 years before this team is competitive again and they will be lucky if it happens before they lose Garret and the window of opportunity...that I think has already passed them by. Hmmm, did Callahan know and see something? He's gone....and so is the great line he coached year after year...and yet we still have the same guys for the most part. Callahan obviously was a great coach. That's still to be determined in my opinion with Stefanski...who I never bought into. And still don't! This mess this year should fall on someone's shoulders...but there seems to be no accountability, or responsibility by anyone...imcluding Haslam who might be the biggest problem this team has! But...its his team! He can do what he wants....and if he wants his team looking the way it does....hes got it. Let's see how long the fans put up with it. A worthless product has no demand!

[@runningbeard7380]

NFL package is 100 bucks a year and you can watch replays of EVERY game of EVERY team. I love it. It also allows you to see what a REAL NFL football team play... like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for example... that just beat what the Browns wish they were, the Chargers.

[@npatil85]

Until the bucs lose in the playoffs lol

[@davidhans8597]

@runningbeard7380 Thanks for the info....but when tour home team that you love had a great season the year before, even with all the problems....you expect them to be at least competitive. They are sooo bad. I thought They were passed these kind of days. I'm 67...Ive been waiting a long time for a little something like the Cardiac Kids.....Kosar and Wipe days where we were exciting to watch. Been a Browns fan my whole life....but they have so screwed up the trajectory we were on.....that it just destroyed my interest in the NFL this year dude. I'm not watching any of it! Hahaha! There's enough other stuff going on in the world to watch and keep you busy.....after this many weeks...I don't miss football at all. I'm already paying attention to MLB moves. And hey...world events keep you busy too! Merry Christmas to you!

[@clevelandfontanille5000]

You say fire the coach we had the best still couldn't win I wonder if mother Teresa would get wins 🤔🤔

[@StevenC32]

I believe they should consider tearing this thing down to the studs like they did in 2016, and rebuild it. I would consider trading away offensive linemen like Joel Bitonio, Wyatt Teller and Ethan Pocic for draft picks and rebuilding the offensive line through the draft. I would also consider trading any player over 26 years old other than Myles Garrett and Denzel Ward.

[@ScottCleve33]

​@@Titus.The_CrucifierDorsey is horrible and should have been fired weeks ago. The one single biggest reason why they're so much worse this year from the playoff team they were last season is Dorsey.

[@ScottCleve33]

Well this is dumb and thinking like a Browns fan. This is why the Browns are a losing franchise is because they decide to rebuild every few years. The Browns need to recognize the problem, isolate it and fix it. Some players and coaches will be replaced but an overhaul will just ensure that they're going to lose for the next three seasons and nave more.

[@StevenC32]

@@Titus.The_Crucifier Don't be ridiculous, they are not good. Only an incredibly naive person would make the assumptions that you made. This is a 3-11 football team!

[@ScottCleve33]

@Titus.The_Crucifier hahaha. It's sad that you believe that.

[@clevelandfontanille5000]

Well this team is toast now everyone on this team looks like let's just call it a year guys ok

[@staciesmom9639]

The front office should be fired

[@esulzer100]

So let me get this straight...we traded away a legit franchise quarterback in Baker for the three stooges (Watson, Winston, DTR)? And Haslam is "perplexed" by this season?? Bottom line, nothing changes until he sells the team. How do you back a GM that has put together this dumpster fire of a team? Fans need to stop going to games if they expect anything to ever change.

[@kevinrb9532]

They have missed 3 consecutive 1st round picks, the once great offensive line is old, and they are in salary cap hell. Oh well, at least they have Deshaun Watson. It is time for a complete rebuild. Trade Myles Garrett; his talent is being wasted, and he deserves a chance to play for a contender.

[@Pitchithard]

GM is the worst, how can that guy have a job.

[@denisesunset]

So the fans want to fire the coach. Every 3 to 4 years you fans want to re-start this organization like its a computer. Wishing that the next regime will get it right. Instead of sticking with this coach and GM and patiently getting it right. And people in Cleveland continue to wonder why Pittsburgh and Baltimore year after year continue to be a winning franchise. Because those team ownerships refused to give in to the media and fire everyone.

[@Pnk_Rckr]

Thank you!!

[@runningbeard7380]

Stefanski had success in 2020 because of the zone run scheme and a healthy Mayfield... that offense put up the most points since the Browns championship team of 1964. But he and Baker had a falling out. That was 5 seasons ago... everyone believed that Watson was a "top 5 QB" but Stefanski failed to make him a success. The only reason Flacco was a success was because Flacco is a veteran QB with a strong arm and a ring... he knows what he's doing. 2025 already seems hopeless unless they make some very tough decisions.

[@ScottCleve33]

​@@runningbeard7380Bake, Flacco and Winston are very much the same QB. They all fling the ball around and hope the receiver can make a play. They all also depend on the big play. They don't sustain drives. But they're all reckless with the ball. They flirt with turnovers all the time we've seen all three of those QBs with turnover issues. Browns fans are enamored with the big play. They get excited seeing a long TD pass and are willing to excuse the turnovers to get a hand full of big plays. However this is not a long term winning formula. Seldom dies this QB style win championships or playoff games.

[@stephenrickjr.7519]

Ain't it the truth!

[@johnsix1749]

finally gave up on this team when they dumped baker for a predator, time for Haslam to choose another QB. So far he is 0-2

[@GaryCedestromIII]

Myles Garrett is a bad person.

[@walkerb1734]

I really wish they would just relocate somewhere far, far away. Perhaps Boise

[@michaelhiles5350]

Been waiting since Brian Sipe was the quarterback

[@runningbeard7380]

The Browns have given me some great memories during the Sipe and Kosar years

[@FUNK-f3m]

HEY? SHOUTOUT TO QB WINSTON! DEFENSE STACK AGAINST PASS! YOU NEED THE DEFENSE TO RESPECT THE RUN? NOT LOAD THE BACK END (DEFENSIVE BACKFIELD)! IF YOU GET AN HONEST DEFENSIVE SCHEME.? NOT LOADED TO STOP THE PASS? RESPECT A RUN! THEN WINSTON WOULD LOOK ALOT BETTER!

[@christopherwaits7852]

But I thought it was Baker’s fault?!

[@mikeholt3411]

Since 1999 The Browns started a new chapter. 25 years of misery Only 3 times they made it to the playoffs. There record is 131 wins 276 losses. You call this a NFL team.Cleveland fans you deserve better.😢

[@runningbeard7380]

Do Browns fans deserver better? I don't think they do. If you are a Browns fan and have dutifully watched (as a fan, cheering them on) over the past 3 seasons, then you are a fool. The Browns don't deserve loyalty, and as fans, we all need to be a lot kinder to ourselves and know when to walk away.

[@clearlycaribbeanreb2895]

The franchise needs to go! Move the team to San Diego or St. Louis already! This is the biggest disgrace in all of professional sports.

[@staciesmom9639]

I;m numb

[@adamwelch8810]

Enough is enough already, move the team to Orlando and be done with it.

[@stevendcompton]

Been embarrassing since 1999!!!

[@RobertParker-t4q]

So funny. I just hate this team.

[@markbussey6152]

They are so pathetic 😡 please FIRE stefanski 🤬

[@ChrisCunnane]

Sto say they are winners,try the truth