Nick Wright on Michael Jordan vs. Kareem & LeBron, Aaron Rodgers controversy | Colin Cowherd Podcast

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I am an Afro- Latina and you are me if I was a white man I would be you 😂😂 you live in my head rent free ✌🏾

[@jasonu3741]

Guys stick in school longer than they should to live on there parent's dime and enjoy the parties and the lifestyle of a College kid Girls stick in school longer than they should to live on there parent's dime and find a guy whos going to be educated for a good career The difference is the girls end game actually has a future, the guys is solely to have a good time.

[@bradleybennett6979]

Nick Wright starting his own podcast and comin on the volume where he can be himself has made me and so many more people love him

[@blancosmoke]

Getting away from the hot takes is definitely a good vibe. I still disagree with him often but I’ve found he’s a pretty likable dude

[@caleb484]

Always liked him. He's gonna have a loooooong career. Annoying enough for you to hate him. But a fantastic sports TV personality enough for you to like him. Always being a fan of him anyways 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Mr.Laker19]

He sucks

[@Wellsy-qr8pb]

Why so he can continue to say the dumbest things on tv and be a jerk about it. People who support him are really out of their minds guy is worst man in sports media hands down

[@culturesend1704]

Yeah, it's weird, before the CC thing happened @FTF, I liked Nick a lot. I think becoming the lead guy on a debate show caused some of the more obnoxious aspects of his personality to be at the forefront. His pod and appearances like this humanize and make him more personable. Showcasing his knowledge without all of the condescension, bravado, and blustering.

[@newbsaibot_]

Love the podcast and having Nick on here is icing on the cake. Salute to the both of yous.

[@Wellsy-qr8pb]

Your joking right lol Nick made this 50 times worse with his idiocy

[@nathanmulchandani2869]

@@Wellsy-qr8pb Why you watchin it

[@MrKurtykurt]

100x worse

[@MrJtBlackout]

Nick is bakeddddd 😂

[@ej4087]

Hell yea 😆 🤣

[@graymaybe8587]

💯🤣

[@nextlevelinvestments1098]

Facts!!

[@nextlevelinvestments1098]

He on edibles, he got higher throughout the show

[@Isvvx]

He’d prob admit it too 😂

[@scourge8097]

Oh C'mon..."LeBron won WITHOUT Kyrie, he won without D-Wade, Kareem won in Milwaukee, in Los Angeles SEVERAL times..." Yeah...it's almost like Kareem NEVER won without one of the 2 greatest PGs in NBA history on the TWO teams he played on(Oscar and Magic were pretty universally regarded as the best and 2nd best for a long time). Meanwhile LeBron bounced around from team to team to find other HOFers. Does anyone REALLY think Jordan couldn't have done that? I'd genuinely like to know who the "other scorer" was on Jordan's Bulls teams when he got there? Orlando Woolridge? FOH...

[@ZimMill]

Exactly… Mike Won 6 Rings & Was The Clear Best Player In All 6… Kareem Was The 2nd-3rd Best Player On His Own Team For His 4th & 5th Rings, & Was 4th Best Player On His Own Team In His 6th Ring… Comparing That To MJ Is Insane

[@scourge8097]

@@ZimMill I mean...I don't wanna denigrate KAJ, he's amazing and I don't think there were 3 players better than him(Magic, Worthy and who are you thinking BTW?)...BUT, it's just the arguments are so lazy. Jordan couldn't win without Pippen? So what? Kareem wasn't winning in LA until Magic came along. 'Bron wasn't winning until he teamed up with the best 4 and a top 5 SG all-time. I think Jordan's the 🐐. But say KAJ, say Bron...just don't get me the stupid arguments. And to be fair, people take shots at LeBron that are weak. But goddamn. Can't we just have an appreciation for greatness without having to knock the other guys down?

[@tomstorm7926]

All of those guys won with another great player. Somehow they only mentioned that for Jordan

[@ZimMill]

@@scourge8097 In 1988, Byron Scott Was Also Better Than Kareem. He Avg’d 22 PPG That Season & Was A Good Guard Defender… Kareem Was Down To 14 PPG That Season… & I Ain’t Tryna Down Kareem Either, I’m Just Stating What Happened… Magic, Worthy & B Scott Were The Driving Forces For LA In 1988

[@styvens67]

d-wade is one of the greatest guards ever but kyrie is nowhere near one of the greatest PGs ever one of the most talented yes but greatest no.

[@mackenziematthews23]

Absolutely love the friendship & mutual respect that these 2 have for each other, ALONG WITH how great these 2 get along on air. It's a pleasure to see it & I hope we continue to see it.

[@5StarFlix]

The problem with Kareem's legacy (on the court) is the fact that his peak 1971-1977 occurred while guys like Dr. J, Rick Barry, Artis Gilmore, Dan Issel, Spencer Haywood, Billy Cunningham, George Gervin and Moses Malone were playing in the ABA. Four of his six MVPs, his Championship and Finals MVP with the Bucks, and both of his scoring titles happened while the ABA and NBA were separate leagues. And as was stated in the video, he played 1B to Magic's 1A on most of those "Showtime" titles. That stuff matters. Jordan and LeBron were always the best players on their championship teams. ALWAYS. That counts for something. Or at least it should.

[@kwezcoma]

Uh you’re really acting like Kareem wasn’t the 1A on those lakers teams???

[@5StarFlix]

@@kwezcoma Ummm 1 Finals MVP out of 5 championships. Magic had 3. I'm not great at math, but...

[@andrewreice7626]

Kareem was the best player on the 1980 and 1982 teams. 85 magic was probably better and the last two magic and probably worthy where better than kareem

[@tyjohnson3111]

@@5StarFlix FMVPs don’t account for the whole playoff run. Do we discredit Bird for not having a FMVP in 81’?

[@Norel_Nieves]

@@tyjohnson3111 they do, the FMVP is the MVP of the playoffs. The whole purpose of the playoff is to win 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@nicholasmartinez6043]

I was so impressed by Nicks top 50 NBA players he should do a top 30 QB of all time next

[@metalhammerm6903]

“And that’s why I have Patrick Mahomes ahead of Brady” lmaooo

[@HomerunsamSOSA]

@@metalhammerm6903 lmfao

[@windowpainzplays8601]

nahhe should just do his top 50 nfl players regardless of position

[@discxography]

Love nick on the volume as always … these two have great chemistry

[@azwanazmi1484]

It's amazing how they knock MJ for having Pippen but don't think how he would have gone to win on another team by teaming up with Olajuwon and Wilkins or other great players. He obviously didn't need to. MJ won with one current allstar on his team 5 times and 1 with no current allstar. Now look at the massive list of allstars the other 2 played with.

[@jongee7034]

I consider massive list of All stars Bron had to go up against which is why it takes a list of all stars to be a threat. In case you be living under a rock. The modern NBA is better. Accepting that makes the goat debate simple. U comparing hykeem and wilkins to who ??? Bosh?lol love?lol street clothesAD?lol.The best of Wade? Or Kyrie. You sound dumb. Bron did not team up with kobe duncan kg durant or steph. He team up with his draft class and mostly players that had nothing to lose or something to prove. Talk facts or dont talk

[@superdopehiphop]

Who did Cavs draft or trade for in LeBron’s first 7 years close to Scottie Pippen Horace Grant or BJ Armstrong (who was all Star year after MJ retired and they went 55-27 without him and were a bad call away vs Knicks of being big favorites vs my Pacers in ECF)? That’s why LeBron left! LeBron first 7 years his teams had no one close to the best players MJ Magic Bird Kobe Shaq Kareem Russell Wilt Duncan Curry Durant Hakeem (although after Sampson hurt he had very little help his whole career which is why O have him as 3rd/4th/5th/6th best of the last 50 years right there Kareem Bird Magic…MJ & LeBron my Co GOAT and love both and seen them both live 50+ x as pops has center court row 10 season tickets since 87-88 and had 10 games or so 2 years before that!) How LeBron left Cleveland was bad PR/optically but LeBron would of been dumb to not leave. Cavs from 2000-2013 drafting and team building was horrid! They literally could of had Joe Johnson Dame Kawhi/Klay, Giannis/Oladipo just to name a few! They let Carlos Boozer walk for nothing! DeJuan Wagner was hurt whole career. If you can’t admit LeBron’s first 7 years he had less help in terms of other multiple times All stars or HOF then you just ignoring reality. MJ was under .500 in 5 years without Pippen (1-9 in playoffs). Every player only as great as their TEAMMATES/Coaching/GM/ownership! MJ was God tier 85-90 his first 6 years but was 24-29 in playoffs bc his TEAMS weren’t as great as Celtics Pistons Bucks or Magic (in 95). MJ LeBron Hakeem Bird Kareem Isiah Durant etc etc have all had amazing years/season/series but they lost to the better TEAM!

[@ThriceGr3at]

But they said Jordan wasn’t a good fit with other legit allstars. Pippin pretty much agreed to be a defender and let Jordan get all of the shine. And you see now it seems like Pippin regrets that decision. The other players proved they can win in multiple systems with multiple players.

[@bobbyd1632]

@@ThriceGr3at right so when Pip had his own team in 1994 his game elevated by 1 FGA per game and 1ppg Gfoh

[@ThriceGr3at]

@@bobbyd1632 Pippen needed Jordan just like Jordan needed Pippen. What did MJ do before he got Scotty? Like Nick Wright said, Jordan has 6 titles but he played 15 seasons. What happened the other 9? People act like they don’t exist.

[@PaulBenjaminJenkins]

Kareem always had a teammate better than Pippen, whether it was Oscar or Magic. What the hell are you guys talking about?

[@tomstorm7926]

I know they act like pippen is better than all of Kareem and lebrons teammate.

[@WillyPDX94]

Colin and Nick together. Priceless. When these guys get into a groove they are the best storytellers you'll ever hear.

[@AdedokunAdebo]

this was one of the best videos that you 2 have ever done; you both would be excellent on a podcast

[@gojirrausa2741]

The fact that Colin's idea of struggling financially is eating Chick-Fil-A four to five times a week says a lot.

[@whatjimcornetteshouldhavesaid]

It really doesn’t say what you think it does.

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@@whatjimcornetteshouldhavesaid care to expound?

[@davidlopez2276]

In the 80s and 90s? That was probably slumming it then when Chick-Fil-A was still probably a fringe franchise that wasn’t nationwide yet.

[@whatjimcornetteshouldhavesaid]

Easily the best one yet. By far. Incredible episode

[@pullupjeff]

I love when these two team up man, great content

[@antonioalejandrocaroalvare5864]

I like Nick so much that when he starts talking about Michael Jordan I just skip until he is not anymore, such a likeable dude

[@bobbyd1632]

Can’t tell if you’re serious or not ????

[@Wellsy-qr8pb]

He is obviously not serious no one like nick he is the worst member of the sports media ever and is a jerk

[@Joes35]

Nick is lying when it comes to Kareem. He knows lebron isn’t goat on his own merits. He has to diminish Jordan

[@DLuis82]

I think it's awesome you talked about the process of life and allowing your kids to discover the world and how that's one of the best teacher's. It is so true. You gain confidence through competence. I learned I do really well under pressure 😂 I will figure it out.

[@HahaHaha-km4sm]

Man the advice given on this episode is advice I’ve never received and man I think I needed that

[@openomniverse446]

The fact that they didn't award DPOY in Kareem's day also takes a lot away from how we perceive his legacy. He also CONTINUED to dominate when they introduced the 3pt line, which was put into play to limit the advantages of playing down low. That rule was introduced and went against Kareem. The Jordan rules were put in directly to help Jordan make it through the playoffs.

[@tyjohnson3111]

💯

[@odizza1688]

That's bullshit. There were no rules designed to help MJ do shit

[@y2shuproblem]

So the Bad Boy Pistons were established in order to help Jordan for 3 years. Like they had some secret meeting sessions before the game and the Bad Boy told Jordan exactly where they're gonna put his ass on the floor

[@Joes35]

Lol it’s funny when kids pretend like they have any idea about Kareem or MJ or rule changes

[@robertcabrera4760]

Nick Wright is out here having his friends defend him over his ridiculous rankings. Colin is the one mentor that will help out Little Nicky

[@michiganmir7838]

Lol Nick is making the case on why he’s better than lebron not Jordan

[@JCole2598]

Colin and Nick on the podcast, great content & conversation all the time!

[@kartikeyamohanagarwal8393]

Everyone forgets that MJ's fandom and reverence is not just because of his 6 championships or because of his Scoring Titles, but because of his ability to mesmerize the public with his Style, Athletic Ability, Hang time, Slam Dunk Wins while jumping from the free throw line, unbelievable In-Game Dunks, aesthetics on the court, none of which existed with Kareem's super effective but monotonous Skyhook. There's never been a better combination of such Superior Athletic Ability, Individual Success, Team Success, Marketability and Popularity. While LeBron is close in all of the above aspects but MJ was still better. And if you don't believe then checkout the TV Viewership of MJ's finals and you will realise how he raised the NBA to another level which is unmatched even after 30 years with a larger population and more Affordable & Accessible Viewing experience. Also I am surprised that despite being so knowledgeable about NBA history Nick while talking about Kareem ignored that Almost Half of the Best Players were in the ABA while Kareem was scoring 24,000 of his 38,000 points... This leads me to believe that Nick is being Dishonest about Kareem just to make sure the debate turns to Kareem vs MJ instead of MJ vs LeBron which by all metrics even by advanced analytics is in favour of MJ, while LeBron only has longevity in his favour against MJ..

[@SmoothieT33]

You are 100%. Nick conveniently omits uncomfortable facts.

[@scourge8097]

Jordan DID just do it differently. But...it was like he was the older kid picking on the younger kids sometimes. Go look at Jordan best ball fake(I'm sure YOU have, but if someone hasn't)...the way he'd palm the ball and just have these grown men taking 3 false steps the wrong way and then just lay the ball up...it was incredible. That said, style points aren't THAT important to me or I'd have Dominique in my top 10(though I do still think he's criminally underrated). Jordan is just the BEST to do it.

[@B4dafam]

There was no one in the aba that could guard Kareem. In his prime, Kareem was the best in either league. By every metric? In what year was mj a better passer or rebounder than LeBron? Mj ever guard the center or power forward? Stop it. The thing with mj is no one ever made basketball look that crazy. I was looking at an old mj dunk.contest n the announcer screamed "Look at the flying motion.." lol. No one else made people wonder if they were watching a man fly for a second. But that didn't get him out of the 1st round or his first .500 win percentage season. Pippen n grant getting drafted in 87 did.

[@kartikeyamohanagarwal8393]

@@scourge8097 I agree but in your Dominique point, he didn't have the post season resume, he wasn't a perineal MVP candidate..He was more of a Leaper and Dunker with good Scoring Ability.. Jordan had all the Athletic & Aesthetic qualities of Dominique+ Trash Talking Ability of Larry Bird + Winner Mentality of Magic Johnson + Clutchness of Bill Russell + Scoring ability of Wilt Chamberlain. Not a single major flaw. Driving to the Basket ✅ ✅✅ Mid Range Shooting ✅✅✅ Free Throw Shooting ✅ 3 point Shooting for the Era ✅ Defending Guards and SF ✅✅✅ Clutch Shots & Free Throws ✅✅✅ Perfection in Finals with Finals MVP ✅✅✅ Epic Meltdowns ❌❌❌ Availability in Regular Season ✅✅✅ Regular Season MVP's & DPOY ✅✅✅

[@kartikeyamohanagarwal8393]

@@B4dafam And he missed Playoffs a Couple of Times in his Prime despite other teams being negatively affected by not having players like Dr.J,Moses Malone etc... Yes nobody could guard him in the ABA but those players could have made other teams better definitely.. Jordan didn't miss the playoffs and he got beat by Larry's Celtics & Bad Boy Pistons..2 of the 7 most stacked teams of last 50 years(Showtime Lakers, Jordan's Bulls, Shaq Kobe Lakers, Heatles & KD Warriors)

[@MrAaronBrown1]

Nick Wright needs to join the Volume!

[@schubertjoseph1478]

These 2 have a great friendship, 👍🏽

[@user-im8ht1wl3u]

Luv when nick comes on the show.

[@kattmeating8315]

The parenting segment was really great

[@terenceking2252]

YO NICK WRIGHT SINGLE HANDEDLY BECAME MORE RELATEABLE AND ENJOYABLE TO ME WITH THIS INTERVIEW ! ROLL TIDE !!!

[@Wellsy-qr8pb]

Except tomorrow he will go back on tv and continue to spout bs and be a jerk so actually your just gullible lol

[@CommonNotCommon24-7]

Kareem and Lebron won championships with greater players than Jordan. Think of the players Jordan played with compared to who Lebron and Kareem played with

[@GIGAFAT3]

Yeah, think about it, MJ never played against a team better than his every year he won anything

[@duncancallahan]

These two are the best. Could listen to them all the time. So smart.

[@georgetolofari5246]

The media does not love Aaron Rodgers. That’s a dumb ass take.

[@jayusha5309]

Nick wright don't make any sense, he's talking about lebron playing 7more sessons that Jordan and that has to matter when bring up the goat conversation, but come to think of it he had already said bron was goat in 2016 and he hadn't even won 4 rings and longevity wasnta factor then lol. Dude will say anything to put lebron there

[@coreythomas3633]

Mj 1-9 without Scottie that why when he was with the wizards or his first 6 season he failed alot.

[@Noin007]

@@coreythomas3633 Because those first couple years when Scottie was averaging like 8-10 ppg was what did it, not Mike's 35-40 a night. 🤣

[@Kruppt808]

Nick and Colin with less censorship for 45 min ish? I'm a happy camper

[@altfiwithleighlommen310]

Jordan was the best player in the NBA as a rookie.

[@brianl6743]

Kyrie Irving is engaged and hasn’t been single throughout most of his time in Brooklyn Lmao

[@judeserrano1360]

Nick said to consider Kareem as the greatest player while absolutely placing lebron as no. 1......total hypocrite.....

[@markwright9269]

Lebron didn't win by himself each title he won he played with at least one or more great players ......Jordan just one.....and jumped team to team trying to stack great players in order to win ...stop it...

[@iamyourgod76]

Jordan played with pippen Rodman Kukoc Horace Grant and Ron Harper in their prime. Jordan never won without pippen and at age 22 was getting swept in first round while Lebron at age 22 was taking g leaguers to the NBA finals.

[@iamyourgod76]

@Beery Lebron went to the NBA at age 18. Lebron has been better than Jordan over a longer period. The East wasnt weak. Lebron had to beat the previous Eastern conference champions to make it to the finals. Lebron haters never give credit to Lebron for winning and give Jordan a pass for quitting on the Bulls and leaving scottie pippen to carry the team. Jordan had a losing record without Scottie pippen and phil Jackson. Lebron played and beat champions, Who was Jordan's competition? Craig Ehlo, Reggie Miller, thunder dan? Who was Lebron's competition Kahwi, durant, curry, Tim duncan, James Harden. Jordan wss the best player on the best team with the best coach in the weakest era.

[@iamyourgod76]

@Beery 😂🤣🤣😤You gave up without a rebuttal! Ha ha another JDR bites the bust. Bye betch!

[@papichulo-DK]

Raising kids advice needs to be clipped such a great piece of content

[@yoniyampolsky2597]

I legit like Nick, but MJ being 3rd is flat out dumb. At no point in his career wad Kareem better than Jordan. This is stupid

[@17NateJohnson]

Kareem deserves to be in the conversation. Lebron chose high-caliber teammates. MJ, in a real way, “made” Pippen. No way Pippen is as good as Wade, Bosh, AD, or even Artie w/o MJ. Pippen became great, but that was clearly a product of playing w MJ.

[@rhonecherrington2131]

The pippen argument is dumb, whom Jordans team drafted and Jordan made. Fact is Kareem and LeBron played with far better talent than Jordan did, they both had running mates far better than Pippen. They also both won less, where they were the driving force behind their title, than Jordan did. That's despite the fact he played far fewer seasons than the two of them.

[@NoSpinster0909]

Better talent from a scoring standpoint, overall teams I disagree

[@wamba78]

This is a good podcast

[@3PTBall]

Just pure clownery so MJ should have went on a tour with other NBA all star lmaooo and he still has as many rings as Kareem so play longer for what ?, and pipen was drafted from a damn near Juco, to act like he came in and wasn’t made better playing with and against MJ is laughable.

[@jadap1789]

Love Nick on here

[@jermainedevries5536]

Kareem won 1 with Oscar, a top 3 PG of all time , and the rest with Magic, the greatest PG of all time. Scottie is top 50 all time and one of the greatest defender ever, but let’s not act like he was one of the two mentioned above, come on.

[@tomstorm7926]

Agreed. They were a bit disingenuous there. Saying lebron and Kareem won before magic and kyrie but didn’t mention that it was because he had d wade and bosh or AD. And magic and worthy for Kareem.

[@mauricebrown1277]

Nick Wright is Fried. And I love it. Still smart as a whip.

[@graymaybe8587]

This was a pretty interesting conversation beyond sports 💯

[@thesneakerchamp23]

🤣🤣🤣 Nicks list it’s gets funnier every time I hear it. & Colin trying to justify it makes it better. I enjoy these 2 together.

[@superdopehiphop]

Nick was born in October 1984. He doesn’t remember even old Kareem as he was 4 when he retired. He also doesn’t remember 87-93 MJ which is God tier MJ. MJ and LeBron are my Co GOAT (super duper early 80s baby nearly late 70s) and after them best I’ve seen are Hakeem & Bird (whose first 11/9 years are God tier also), but I was too young to see prime Kareem. Magic right there too. Many ppl underrate Hakeem who if he had same teammates/coaching/FO/ownership as Russell Wilt Kareem Duncan Shaq he’d have 2-6x as many titles and if they were on Rockets 84-85 to 97-98 they’d all have 0-2 titles at most . I’ve been to 1500+ NBA games since mid 80s center court row 10 and MJ LeBron Hakeem Bird at their best still best I’ve seen! Colin Roders per game stats in the playoffs are mostly all > Brady and most other QBs. You know this, but for some reason you’re like Skip Bayless with Rodgers (it’s your blind spot for sure), but NFL is 53 man roster and he has nothing to do with his teams defense, special teams, o-line, etc! Brady won a SB in 2001 (BS tuck rule so shouldn’t of happened) throwing ONE TD the whole playoffs! He beat Rams scoring 13 points bc his defense gave up under like 3 points! Also watch the 4 episode documentary on psychedelics on Netflix. There are many studies showing how it helps with mental health, depression, seizures, etc. All drugs are made from stuff yet Colin has a problem with these natural plants bc he’s thinking acid from 60s and 70s. Many diff cultures have used these for 1000s of years too. Just look at how weed was looked at in 1800s then 1900s and now the last 15 years!

[@IknowMoreThanYou]

THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS ABOUT HAKEEM!!!!! THERE REALLY HAS BEEN AN AGENDA AGAINST HIM. HE'S ONE OF 3 PLAYERS IN THE HISTORY OF THE GAME WITH ABSOLUTELY 0 WEAKNESSES IN HIS PRIME and really a mount Rushmore ALL time if we're going on GREATNESS alone. With him, bird mj and bron, at their peak there's something OTHERWORLDLY watching them play, that " there cannot possibly be anyone who's ever BEEN THIS GOOD" in the history of the game. I think if Giannis keeps fine tuning his game he'll reach that level as well. But dream was something else. People don't realize that THE ONE TIME DREAM HAD HELP IN HIS SECOND SEASON IN THE LEAGUE! HE BEAT THE PRIME SHOWTIME LAKERS LOL. imagine he and Jordan together in the 80s on .... they'd win 13 RINGS!

[@coreythomas3633]

Mj 1-9 without Scottie that why when he was with the wizards or his first 6 season he failed alot.

[@wolf7el356]

Nick is an Analytics Nerd

[@coreythomas3633]

@@wolf7el356 Mj 1-9 without Scottie that why when he was with the wizards or his first 6 season he failed alot. Lebron beat 73 9 team has more wins and is more clutch has done more with less. 07 18 cavs lebron was BYHIMSELF. Took the team to those finals. He just lost to the better team.

[@wolf7el356]

@@coreythomas3633 This is a really stupid argument, but the fact that you keep making it is what makes it even more stupid. But I appreciate your consistency & dedication to stupidity.

[@mattvalin1958]

I haven't watched ESPN in like 20 years but this Nick Wright guy is a real throwback. Super combative. Super loud and monosyllabic. High on hot takes. I only watched the part that was basketball related but wow I'm glad I went so long without running into him.

[@halfshot253]

Lebron won with other players. He needed other scorers in their prime to win.

[@Kareyn2]

Right! Collin said Lebron won without other players. What? How about Kyrie, Wade, AD? Weird. Y’all holding it against Michael Jordan for wining 6 titles with one coach? So weird.

[@Anthonydu01630]

Other scorers in their prime ? Wade was out of his prime after 2011, Kyrie was 21-24 with Lebron he wasn’t even in his prime and AD only had 1 good season with Lebron.

[@Anthonydu01630]

@@Kareyn2 It’s way easier to win with the same coach and teammates, CHEMISTRY is the most important thing in basketball and every team sports. Ask Steph Curry if it’s not easier lol, if Lebron had a prime Klay, a prime Dray, a prime Iggy and Steve Kerr for 10 years he would have a better record, Lebron never really had time to create a dynasty, Wade and Bosh were injury prone and way out of their prime in 2014 so he had to go back to Cleveland, then Kyrie tought he was Kobe and left Lebron in 2017, and now AD is injury prone and barely play half the season, Lebron would have a way better record if he had healthy consistent teammates in their prime like MJ, Kobe, Curry, KD, Russ, Harden, Magic ect.

[@Anthonydu01630]

Playing with 1 ALL STAR in his prime for 10 years is better than playing with 4 different ALL STARS on 3 different teams with 3 different coach for 10 years, people talk about all the ALL STAR Lebron played with like he played with all of them at the same time lol, Lebron never had a stacked team like the Warriors, Celtics or the SPURS with Kawhi.

[@halfshot253]

@@Anthonydu01630 well.i thought you guys said he can make other players better around him? Cmon make up your mind 🤡

[@richardklambie]

This was an awesome podcast. Especially the family part.

[@superdopehiphop]

“I ain’t paying for you to talk to shrubs!” 😆

[@alexanderson3284]

Unrelated but I appreciate the tid bit about going out on your own I will be attending pilot training in a couple months hours away from home. I’m terrified and they made some good points. I don’t always listen to Colin or nick for their “brilliant sports takes” they ever so often drops little bits of wisdom. Much appreciated.

[@pwhite1979]

LeBron never won without a stacked team

[@adrianlaw5907]

Dear Colin, What is hurting your reputation is having Nick Wrong on your show. Drops your levels by 100x.

[@jarrik262]

who was Colin referring to when he was talking about friends in the media that were in their 60's that have become odd?

[@jabarricharles-barnes658]

My guess is Rob Parker ? Lol

[@Christopher._M]

@@jabarricharles-barnes658 maybe Jalen rose or SAS I know jalen was married for a while but he's always been odd to me. Skip is also a bit off but he's married so I don't think so.

[@nialap]

I wondered the same thing. SAS, Maybe Whitlock? Maybe Rose.

[@joshuaalexander8327]

Jason Whitlock. They are liberal he is conservative.

[@sapphsliv9588]

@@nialap yeah i think jason whitlock for sure, i doubt they would insinuate it is anyone on FS1 tho

[@anthonyelvis4571]

Man I’m such a Nick Wright fan

[@andrenunley7267]

A part of Jordan’s legacy is the explosion of media and marketing. No one has had a singular hold on endorsements before or since. He was a phenom and the media boosted him so much. He didn’t say a negative thing against anything that world hurt his brand. Kareem and LeBron have used their platform to push back against structures and that hasn’t set well with some folks. I really enjoy these guys.

[@twizzy585ots]

But it's also put them in high regard amongst alot because of that so there's that also

[@pauldawson5395]

These two off air on KZbin are FN gold !!!!

[@jasonhodges6463]

What other players did Jordan have?? No freaking all stars! Lbj has played with about 5 future hall of Famers and they were all all stars at the time… WTH guys

[@GIGAFAT3]

He always had a better team around him than teams he played every year he made the finals

[@jasonhodges6463]

@@GIGAFAT3 I disagree, he (mj) was the difference maker… the point is mike played with one perennial all star and that was pippen, what other star has one by himself? Doesn’t happen, and again how many all stars has lbj played with

[@GIGAFAT3]

@@jasonhodges6463 you know that year and a half when MJ quit to try baseball?

[@bobbyd1632]

@@GIGAFAT3 what about that year and a half?

[@GIGAFAT3]

@@bobbyd1632 do you not know?

[@hightenor12]

This argument is the most eye opening anti-Jordan analysis I’ve ever heard. Best stuff from either of these shock jocks yet. Seriously.

[@Militarize]

Seems like a lot of people including his children have tried to tell Nick he messed up with his LeBron ranking.

[@coreythomas3633]

Huh lebron is the goat

[@MartinHMyers]

I never think who is the greatest. I just enjoy and appreciate the players and love the game.

[@bksports3396]

Kareem played a decade with the greatest point guard ever... MJ played with Pippen ... no comp....

[@coreythomas3633]

Mj 1-9 without Scottie that why when he was with the wizards or his first 6 season he failed alot.

[@Noin007]

@@coreythomas3633 How many times are you going to post that contextless nonsense?

[@ToddBrown00]

Colin has been one of my favorites since him and beadle ran sportsnation. No surprise to me that his protege nick is also high one that list.

[@KingKCA]

I’m a Lebron fan but for all that Nick says he always omits key details or dumbs down facts when it comes to Jordan. Jordan will always be viewed as the GOAT because he started winning when media and endorsements really blew up. On top of that his shoes will live on forever because todays athletes shoes are basketball shoes whereas Jordan are worn in all different cultures.

[@bryanttisdale2446]

Nick also leaves out Jordan competition at 2 guard early. Tent Tucker (knicks) Hersey Hawkins (76ers) , Jeff Malone (bullets) Craig Ehlo (cavs), Ricky Pierce, Rick Carlisle and Danny Angie were guarding Jordan in his 63pt game. LeBron competition: Iggy, McGrady, Vince Carter, Shawn marion, Paul George, kawiai Lenord, Paul Pierce, Demar Derozen, Jimmy butler. 🤔 80's guys who couldn't even jump with Jordan like Joe Dumars or LeBron hurdles Iggy who can jump out the gym. Jordan got tex Winter after Jordan couldn't figure out Stop going 1 on 3 . Triangle gave space and answers to bet Pistons after LOSING to same team 3xtimes in a Row. That isn't especially load like Steph and K.D. warriors. Jordan also had 3 tragedy in the east Len Bais (biggest physical college rival) Reggie Lewis dies also (block Jordan 4xtimes in one game) Dazen Pertovic Died (offensive player just starting to open up 3pt line). Jordan had Nike Marketing. His early loses glossed over. Magic 95 loses fake excuses. He avg 30 in the series ( not back my ass). Wins over non super teams 2 All star per team only held up as the ultimate wins.

[@MikeDuece666]

@@bryanttisdale2446 not reading all that

[@porovaara]

this is the kind of content we want.

[@TSmitty-ec7ll]

Here's a fun Jordan stat. Michael Jordan entered the NBA in 1984, but didn't play with his first all star until Scottie Pippen in 1990. That season and and 1995 seasons were the only seasons (as a member of the Bulls) where Jordan didn't win the title with another all star. Pippren entered the league in 1987 and averaged 7 ppg. Jordan won his first series vs Cleveland and average 45/5/4 . Pippen averaged 10/5/2. I'm not knocking Scottie, because he was a rookie.

[@Noin007]

"Obviously it was Pippen's 10/5/2 that did it, Jordan's 45/5/4 were the icing on Scottie's winning cake." -Nick Wright, probably 🤣

[@LewGardner]

Nick with the revisionist history lol, LeBron was not top 3 in MVP at the end of year two, they didn’t even make the playoffs. It was year 3 when he finished top 3 behind Nash, wasn’t top 3 again until he won it in 08-09 (5th year). Jordan playing 7 less years than Kareem and LeBron but still having the championships is a point for Jordan. They’re trying to knock Jordan for not bouncing from franchise to franchise in his prime?? lol Thats why Kareem won without Oscar/Magic and LeBron won without Wade/Kyrie/AD. Terrible argument.

[@chrismatlock2914]

Colin and nick... batman and robin

[@JuanCarlosHernandez-sv8ec]

Interesting how they bring up why Jordan couldn't win without Pippen. They find it as a knock on his GOAT resume for being LOYAL to one team rather than jumping ship and joining superstars such as Wade, Bosh, and Kyrie. The fact of the matter is that Jordan did more than Lebron and Kareem in less time. For the Kareem fans, they argue that he has as many rings as Jordan and more MVPs, well he won a few of those while the ABA existed and the majority of the players were in the ABA. None of the "top 3" GOAT players had anyone as good as Magic, who in my opinion has a better argument than Lebron and Kareem for number 2. As far as Lebron is concerned, he couldn't win with the team he had at Cleveland so he quit on them and left to a team with an ESTABLISHED champion in Wade. Interestingly, when DWADE was of no use to him he bailed on Miami and went back to to Cleveland with a rising superstar in Kyrie. See the pattern? Lebron is loyal to only himself he doesn't care who's game is effected as long as he pads his stats.

[@GIGAFAT3]

Why are you so confused about something that was recorded historically?

[@godchild006]

Nick is just trying to muddy up the waters for MJ. He’s the greatest if you like it or not Nick. No matter how you slice it up, MJ is the GOAT and everyone know you’re a clown for your silly list putting him 3rd smh 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@coreythomas3633]

No lebron the goat smh

[@mall31st56]

Both y’all on some bullshit… Kareem was playing wit Magic, Worthy and great role players when he was 40… and it’s not about the best prospect coming into the league it’s about what you did once you got to the league… Mike only won wit Pippen bcuz that’s all he needed, he didn’t have to jump ship like Kareem and Lebron, he have 2 3peats and they don’t have one not to mention all the accolades and iconic moments… Mike the Goat and it ain’t close

[@JP-wn4jn]

Kareem is wearing goggles 😆! That's how I remember him too

[@janirosario5751]

The great Nick Wrong. Only talks about numbers. Stop it Nick.

[@JoelCruz-ng4rn]

its insane that Nick uses MJ "playing 7 fewer years than LBJ or Kareem" against him. Considering that MJ STILL has the most combined individual and team accolades of all time. Yes MJ played fewer seasons, yet he accomlished MORE than LBJ and Kareem. That alone should disqualify Nick from speaking on this ever again.

[@GIGAFAT3]

Why are you making up that he accomplished more?

[@GIGAFAT3]

@@JoelCruz-ng4rn why do you think you applied all of the available context there?

[@JoelCruz-ng4rn]

@@GIGAFAT3 Michael Jordan has collected an unbelievable amount of trophies, a record 22 trophies. MJ is ahead of the likes of Bill Russell, who has 17 trophies including a record 11 NBA titles, and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar who has 15 trophies. MJs supremely impressive haul of trophies includes ROTY, DPOY, 6 NBA titles, 6 NBA Finals MVPs, 5 MVPs, and 3 All-Star Game MVPs. It is clear who the greatest player of all time is. It might be time to just end the discussion. I didnt even include scoring titles or steals titles

[@JoelCruz-ng4rn]

@@GIGAFAT3 Mj accomplished more in far fewer years and was the best player on his team while doing so. Mj owns the league in terms of advanced stats and value towards winning. Mj was far more fundamentally sound on offense and on defense than Lebron was, and didnt have the luxury of being a big man in a big man dominated league

[@GIGAFAT3]

@@JoelCruz-ng4rn you didn't include quite a lot, why don't you include more information that'll make your opinion align more with the facts

[@LargeGrizzlyBear]

Lol, Colin’s enthusiasm describing Italians is equal to him talking about the nfl😂

[@itsallabouteverythingilike5056]

You guys damn. Watch more jordan pls. Nick never mind. You too young I don’t know if you play basketball. Mj got it all period. Lebron can’t even get a bucket if the team needs it. Ft pls. Jabbar o common not even one kids will copy his shot. Everyone wants to be like mike. Common guys

[@nickhurt6600]

Bron scored 25 straight at 22 against an all time great pistons defense lol, or at least still an awesome defense to go to the finals. You can bash bron for other things but dude scores plenty.

[@calebzuver2062]

when these two get together on here, it’s almost always special content

[@spoooky21]

I think Colin secretly wants to be Aaron Rodgers

[@KyleFlyy]

You can make the case for Kareem but you didn’t have have to put him ahead mj you’re tripping

[@cameronburnett1897]

Colin’s being single with no kids analogy is such a reach. The mere fact that he thinks he can criticize Rodgers, KD, & Kyrie on a personal level is disgusting. All three of them have had relationships at one point or another and Kyrie literally has two children. Keep it sports and stop acting like you’re a psych evaluator

[@timesize]

I cut this off bc it was about Nick’s ridiculous Kareem take. Ps. Also I watched every single recap, except the last three

[@coreythomas3633]

Mj 1-9 without Scottie that why when he was with the wizards or his first 6 season he failed alot.

[@jermainedevries5536]

Jordan took what The Bulls front office gave him and won 6 championships, LBJ ran off whenever shit got tough, he is spectacular and top 5 of all time but I refuse to believe that someone under .500 in the finals can be the greatest in their sport. The fact that Jordan won 6 titles in 13 healthy seasons should tell you something. Jordan also won more games for the Wizards than LBJ did last season with 3 other top 75 players on his team. Come on Nick.

[@GIGAFAT3]

Why are you so afraid to tell the whole story?

[@eric5280]

The GOAT conversation has 4 names. All Time > 50 years and no GOAT conversation can leave out Russell. He can't control what era he played in. All he could do is win as much as he could in that era and nobody did that better.

[@BenRiley83]

Anyone who doesn’t have MJ as 1 automatically loses all credibility

[@GIGAFAT3]

Why are you so confused about the history of the sport?

[@scrubsbestshow]

Just put your thumbs in your ear and scream when people disagree with you.

[@coreythomas3633]

Mj 1-9 without Scottie that why when he was with the wizards or his first 6 season he failed alot. Lebron beat 73 9 team has more wins and is more clutch has done more with less. 07 18 cavs lebron was BYHIMSELF. Took the team to those finals. He just lost to the better team.

[@StocktonSmurf]

I’ll say this, nick persuaded me to change my goat from Jordan to Lebron, well played mate

[@bobbyd1632]

Two worst analysts in sports when it comes to MJ these guys either know facts and omit them or they be lying 🤥

[@GIGAFAT3]

Like...?

[@bobbyd1632]

​@@GIGAFAT3 who you want me to start with compared to MJ ... Lebron or Kareem ???

[@GIGAFAT3]

@Beery you're still having that much trouble understanding the word "context" huh?

[@GIGAFAT3]

@@bobbyd1632 start wherever, you seem to be missing almost all of the relevant information so this should be quick

[@coreythomas3633]

@Beery Mj 1-9 without Scottie that why when he was with the wizards or his first 6 season he failed alot. Lebron beat 73 9 team has more wins and is more clutch has done more with less. 07 18 cavs lebron was BYHIMSELF. Took the team to those finals. He just lost to the better team.

[@onidtubes]

Jordan’s journey to winning his first title is not comparable to Lebron. Lebron winning his first title by joining 3 All stars and form a super team is like a kid in elementary skipping high school to get to college quicker.

[@dubkjay]

Love Nick’s Mahomes takes but his Jordan v Bron takes are flat out awful .. it’s very hurtful ..

[@thelionsshare9994]

It’s not awful….you just don’t agree with him.

[@dior2939]

@@thelionsshare9994 no it’s awful objectively it’s not based in sound logic.

[@sbrnation7090]

It’s not awful. It’s logical and I agree, bron the goat

[@jsungaming7276]

man the silliest takes i ever fuckin heard lol.

[@ddotcurry2083]

Love the married take 👏

[@dpistons149]

Kareem wasn’t the playoff performer Michael Jordan was.

[@Christopher._M]

That's only if you just focus on points.

[@tubefu]

@@Christopher._M Jordan beats pretty much everybody in playoffs advanced stats.

[@tyjohnson3111]

@@tubefu Kareem has a higher DWS total, higher BLK%, higher TRB%, higher DREB%, higher TS% (on lower volume & USG%) than MJ in the playoffs.

[@tyjohnson3111]

@Beery I’m just disputing the fact that he beats pretty much everybody in the advanced analytics. You also have to factor in the lack thereof of the basic ones to account for these in Kareem’s physical prime in the early 70s.

[@tyjohnson3111]

@Beery I’m surprised it’s not a shocker to you that MJ has the higher USG% and volume of shots but doesn’t have the higher TS%.

[@michaelwilloughby5607]

When Colin said, “you’ll be eating Chick-fil-A four times a week” as a struggle… I was thinking that’s making bank lol it reminded me when Bill Simmons trying to be relatable with wine cellar comparisons 🤦‍♂️

[@bryannaroditskiy9984]

Regardless the advice was actually very good. Colin is definitely more distanced from that life unlike Nick but the lesson regardless was great.

[@sethedward]

Nick looks high. Not hating, I just see some glazed eyes.

[@brockjensen2473]

Let’s add some objectivity to this MJ debate (which is bullshit might I add) but mj fans aren’t objective about it. I am a huge mj fan. Growing up I had season tickets to watch MJ for a lot of his early career and for 2 of his finals runs. But let’s be objective here…. When MJ retired in 93 the bulls the next season only lost 2 more games than when MJ played. You want to tell me MJ is worth 2 regular season wins? I’m not arguing playoffs we all know what MJ was in the playoffs but even still, the bulls without MJ made the playoffs and even farther than that they made the conference semi finals. Now let’s look at LeBron. The season after LeBron left the cavs the first time they had just went 61-21, after he left they went 19-63. For the cavs, LeBron was responsible for 40 more regular season wins than MJ was to the bulls. Then when LeBron left the Heat I’m 2013 they were 54-28 after he left they were 37-45 WITH DWADE AND BOSH STILL ON THE TEAM. So again LeBron was single handedly responsible for 15 more wins to the heat in 2013 than MJ was to the bulls in 94. Then AGAIN when Lebron goes back to Cleveland he leaves in 2018 when they were 50-32 the season after they were 19-63. So time again we see LeBron is far more valuable to his team than MJ was the bulls. I know mj fanboys aren’t gonna like to hear this because I was once just like you; blinded by the stardom MJ who as a kid and as I was growing up walked on water. He was head and shoulders above everyone else but things change. LeBron is a better player than MJ is but MJ has a greater legacy. I leave this on one last note for y’all, if LeBron had so much more help than MJ why was MJ’s team so much better than LeBron’s teams after they departed? (The second cavs departure doesn’t count because Kyrie left as well) but y’all talk about LeBron like wade and bosh carried him and those 2 combined without bron could only win 37 games and miss the playoffs? It hurts me to seem like I’m trashing MJ because I’m not but y’all can’t remain objective. Stop letting the legacy of MJ blind you from seeing the facts

[@Turnerlb3]

MJ’s team performed better because they actually ran a system where MJ wasn’t making all of the decisions on offense. Also they were desperate the first year MJ retired to get out of his shadow. Nobody talks about the second year and what their record was. But, point is, MJ sacrificed just personal stats for a system that empowered his teammates, which made their team better as a whole. LeBron can only or has only chosen to play in the LeBron system where he dominates the ball and makes the majority of the decisions on offense, so when he leaves a team they have to find a new identity.

[@GIGAFAT3]

@@Turnerlb3 uh oh you forgot to think about what you said there, you should think a little harder

[@nine9_abyss]

You do realize Jordan and Lebron leaving their teams had very different effects because for example, when Lebron left miami dwade was on crutches, bosh got sick and lot of the role players were not the same. Therefore, it's not the same team anymore, the core wasn't there. When Jordan left, the team's core was still intact. That's why they were still ok. They have a team culture and system that was established by Jordan and Phil.

[@coreythomas3633]

@@Turnerlb3 Mj 1-9 without Scottie that why when he was with the wizards or his first 6 season he failed alot. Lebron beat 73 9 team has more wins and is more clutch has done more with less. 07 18 cavs lebron was BYHIMSELF. Took the team to those finals. He just lost to the better team. Mj had a team win 50 games without him. That stupid to say you ignorant to fact's

[@coreythomas3633]

@@nine9_abyss Mj 1-9 without Scottie that why when he was with the wizards or his first 6 season he failed alot. Lebron beat 73 9 team has more wins and is more clutch has done more with less. 07 18 cavs lebron was BYHIMSELF. Took the team to those finals. He just lost to the better team. Lebron the better player and lebron beat better competition.

[@abcdefghijklmnop514]

These guys dumb? Jordan stayed with the same team. How many chips did Lebron win before he stacked his teams?

[@JohnTrek1701]

Funny how listeners are praising how good these two guys are together. But we are talking about the top 50 all time. Honestly they do this to get more views. If you ask them to be honest they will say Jordan is the best ever. I mean if these two are so smart and informed and great story tellers they should tell the real story, there will never be another player like Michael Jordan. This story will be a great and a real one.

[@IknowMoreThanYou]

Besides the anti Jordan propaganda, nick Is likable. I like the fact he defends bron because bron has always gotten too much hate, but his Jordan delusions are WILD 😂

[@coreythomas3633]

Mj 1-9 without Scottie that why when he was with the wizards or his first 6 season he failed alot.

[@IknowMoreThanYou]

@@coreythomas3633 12 full prime seasons 6 RINGS. Lebron 17 full PRIME seasons 4 RINGS 2 RINGS with d WADE a top 25 player all time CHRIS BOSH A HALL OF FAMER 1 RING with AD, a top 75 player ALL TIME 1 with KYRIE AND KEVIN LOVE ALL NBA players and all stars. KYRIE A HALL OF FAMER It ain't comparable Stop embarrassing yourself LEBRON LOST TWO FINALS WHILE HAVING D WADE AND CHRIS BOSH LOST 4 MORE FINALS BESIDES THOSE FAILED TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS WITH 3 TOP 75 PLAYERS ON HIS SQUAD FAILED TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS WITH LONZO KUZMA AND INGRAM ALLL DYNAMIC YOUNG STARS GOOD ENOUGH TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS WITH

[@AEOuriel]

Kyrie isn’t single and has kids Colin likes to reach on these preconceived bits