Manors (Mainline) to Manors (Metro) - Pointless Journeys

[@isobellerobson3345]

As a child and teenager, I would often use platform 4 at Monument then stay on the train as it turned at St James, because it just felt more convenient than waiting at Monument for the same train

[@emjackson2289]

Aye and you get a seat too

[@librarian16]

Surely, people will use Platform 4 at Monument to get off a train.

[@Rhys-x4e]

Same as it means you get the front seat as well

[@Sim0nTrains]

Love the reaction when Northern decided to pull a Northern! Great Video and love the detour to Morpeth

[@Sim0nTrains]

@@RandomTFLupdates-PEPS_FOR_LIFE Hello

[@MrTransportAddict]

@@Sim0nTrains No Simon. Northern pulled a classic ‘Metrolink’

[@Sim0nTrains]

@@MrTransportAddict Metrolink pulls a Metrolink and Northern pulls a Northern

[@Nav1g8r1]

2 big towns with a decent population, Morpeth and Cramlington, getting a decent service to Newcastle. Except its often cancelled.

[@Sim0nTrains]

@@Nav1g8r1 Morpeth does have more services than Cramlington, CrossCountry Trains, LumO, LNER and TransPennine Express stop there as well.

[@Trains.Planes.]

Good video : ) For next time you could do Newcastle (Mainline) Newcastle (Metro) (Northern to Heworth, Yellow line to South Shields, Ferry from South Shields to North Shields, take the Yellow line back again to Central metro.

[@robertbond75]

Here's a suggestion for a pointless journey: West Hampstead Thameslink - West Hampstead Overground - West Hampstead Underground

[@htrainspotting]

West Hampstead (London Underground) to West Hampstead (Overground) to West Hampstead (Thameslink )

[@ChineseTrainGuy]

Pointless journeys are always the funniest things 😂

[@ChineseTrainGuy]

Also how was the Northern 158?

[@Northerner_Transport_Hub]

​@BriishTrainspotter did you know you can differentiate from which onea are ex Scotrail and which ones were direct to Northern?

[@alistairgammond2221]

Windsor and Eton (Riverside) to Windsor and Eton (Central)... WER to Waterloo to Paddington to Slough to WEC

[@Class777]

I’ve never clicked a Nick Badley video as fast as this! Going to watch now!

[@thisis_mudchute]

same

[@Andrewjg_89]

Northern should operate a electric service between Newcastle and Chathill & Berwick-upon-Tweed using Class 323 and Class 319 EMUs. With stops including Manors.

[@alfiestewart6312]

oooh no! that would be atrocious.

[@Andrewjg_89]

True. Plus it would cause more disruptions. Unless part of the ECML north of Newcastle was to be quadrupled which means the slower trains would use the slow tracks and the faster trains use the fast tracks.

[@droge192]

That would be awesome! I've often wondered why they don't use electric traction for the Newcastle - Morpeth - Chathill - Berwick services. The only issue I can see at present, is that those trains have used the same (bay) platforms in Newcastle for about 30 years; and they're not electrified. I'm sure that could be overcome though. The 323 would be perfect for that route.

[@thepepbasher]

Next time you are a bit more south, (South of London) you should do Edenbridge to Edenbridge Town. About a 5-10 min walk from eachother but a massive diversion by train. From Edenbridge to redhill, redhill to east croydon, east croydon to Edenbridge Town. Also both station have an hourly service so bear that in mind.

[@xander1052]

Would like to add two very similar West London ones: Hounslow Rail to Hounslow Central and Brentford to Boston Manor. In both cases the stations are linked by a very short bus ride, but if you were to want to do it by train only, it'd be taking the hounslow Loop via Whitton to Richmond, Richmond to Turnham Green, Turnham Green to Acton Town, and Acton Town to either Hounslow Central or Boston Manor. There are other very similar ones like Feltham to Hatton Cross but none along these two lines are as awkward nor as close. Another fun one though is doing Hammersmith to Hammersmith whilst avoiding changing in a Zone 1 only station (I don't think it's possible to do this without entering zone 1 at all as you can't get to the H&C without an OSI on it's Western end)

[@ianhosier4042]

5 hours when I did it last summer lol

[@hairyairey]

Catford to Catford Bridge? Can't even buy a ticket between them!

[@SantiagoDennehy]

Northern class 156s are a nightmare I hope they will get replaced with a fleet of class 158s.Also the Tyne and Wear metro is supposed to get new trains but they are on test still.

[@sameccles5164]

Could you do Newark North Gate to Newark Castle as a pointless journey?

[@Tox1415]

So you went from Central Station on Northern to Sunderland and then got the Metro from Sunderland back through Central Station to get to Monument? I get the journey was pointless but why cross the same station on your trip?

[@georgewright3949]

Seems like this opens up a lot of new ideas for these videos . Piccadily national rail to Metrolink?

[@ClydebridgeStation]

"No one ever uses platform 4 at Monument"! Wanna bet? I've seen it crowded before!

[@andyburbidge4938]

Go on a football day, and you’ll find many supporters changing at Monument, off Metros from South Shields/South Hylton and also the North side of the loop, as its quicker than going all the way round the coast

[@HarryBrown-v2q]

on a football day its crowded

[@somax1259]

you should do the Heathrow terminals

[@Ro99]

Edgware Road subsurface to the Bakerloo line would also be interesting

[@quintuscrinis]

​@Ro99 it's wouldn't be much of a route though as the lines are an interchange at Baker Street or Paddington (Kensington branch)

[@tonygrinney7115]

As my mother always said to me "Watch your Manor's" ;-)

[@droge192]

There are generations of Geordies to this day, who accidentally miss-spell 'manners' as 'manors' because of that station/area 😄 (I was one for a while).

[@stanley3647]

0:54 welcome to Norhern Teritory I'll be surprised if trains will be on time or not cancelled...

[@jacobporrett]

Looks like you had fun.

[@marcuslittlefair5086]

Wigan Wallgate to Wigan north western would be a great video!

[@hairyairey]

People do use platform 4 at Monument to get to football matches. There was an original plan to have an exit from the station straight into the ground but it was cancelled! Incidentally I bought the first passenger ticket from Monument, November 1981 I think. And sold it for £5 immediately.

[@droge192]

Imagine how much it would be worth now! I was there on the first day of operation (actually August 1980, before the Queen's - later - official opening), St James to Tynemouth (or possibly North Shields) on the old Blue line. Wish I'd kept my ticket!

[@hairyairey]

@@droge192 August 11th 1980 and I missed it. Did travel on it the next day.

[@RJH1971]

03:00 well I never (just a joke, great video!! I tried to do something vaguely similar way back in 1989. Manors (mainline) was then a wilderness of mostly overgrown infrastructure with a couple of platforms actually habitable, kinda surreal.

[@barrowc]

Great video, Nick! Thanks for adding captions too

[@davidwright6156]

Monument P4 is great when arriving from the coast, and IIRC can be used single line runnin in case of an issue in P3

[@gaoeykreg]

Great video! I don’t know if it’s already been suggested, but perhaps Wigan North Western to Wigan Wallgate? Situated yards from each other but serve very different types of traffic.

[@TheFlatCapFromWN5]

Wigan Wallgate to Wigan North Western next! 😂

[@paultidd9332]

I only ever visit Newcastle Upon Tyne once a year (for a certain running event) and used the Metro to Manors and thought I’d got off at the end of the world! 😂 I always find the St James bit of the Metro map confusing and which trains are going where on that bit? - if you see what I mean?

[@droge192]

Tyne & Wear Metro is a "pretzel" (or figure of eight) configuration. So the Yellow line trains go through Monument twice; once on the north to south lines, then later on the east to west. St James is a terminus station (east to west only) and is 0.45 miles from Monument. Yes, basically it is confusing for visitors to the city!

[@tomlynch8114]

Walkergate is OK. Just a mainly residential area with a Lidl and a bus depot. Not particularly dangerous. It’s true, not many people get on from Platform 4 at Monument, but it’s the busiest station on the Metro and is in Newcastle City Centre. Plenty people use Platform 4 when getting off.

[@droge192]

I was born in Walkergate. Did I miss Nick mention Walkergate in this vid?! Never heard it mentioned.

[@MichaelSebastianTodd]

brilliant pointless journey im loving Morpeth & i love Monument station with its proper retro feel at that station and i love Manors station which is Tyne & Wears least used station and great for trainspotting keep up the awesome work

[@droge192]

Yes, it's also quite staggering just how big Manors Metro Station is, considering there is absolutely nothing in Manors (anymore - there used to be a great cinema there 'til the early 80s) and no-one ever gets on or off there!

[@LoganKT]

Platform 4 at Monument, is mainly there for Matchdays, same with St. James Metro Station. As it gets extremely busy when loads of Newcastle Fans are travelling to a Home Match at St James

[@ahoseason]

as a student i often used platform 4 returning to college after shipping in the dinner hour

[@EM81YT]

7:00 Platform 4 is only really used on match days when Newcastle are at home, other than that its not used

[@Jacobhouse605]

Great video nick

[@_the_train_guy]

The moment I saw the title, I knew it was the most pointless thing to do. End result : watched the entire video. This series is Internet Gold

[@SamsVlogstrainsmore]

Great pointless journey Nick. I’ve never been to Morpeth or Sunderland!

[@willhouse2321]

You should do Bicester north to Bicester Village that’s mega pointless haha

[@FozzQuaker]

From Newcastle you could have got a yellow line train round the coast amd into Manors from there, or alternatively, getting off the Mainline train at Heworth and jumped on the Yellow Line there

[@TransportForLuka]

You should do a London tube pointless journey on the circle line Edgware Road to Edgware Road

[@emilyjules5141]

Said in a previous video, Monument to Monument platforms 1/2 to 3/4. Others you could do but would cost a bit are some of the Scottish ones where the train splits.

[@martenkats6915]

I'd have done a large loop, Manors - Newcastle - Darlington - Thornaby - Sunderland - Monument - Manors

[@paulharvey9149]

Morpeth is actually a really nice town, though quite a hike from the station, from what I remember. You should go there sometime and do a proper explore. And I know just what you mean about Sunderland - reasonably central location in large city, yet usually fairly quiet! Other ideas? Helensburgh Central to Helensburgh Upper, Tyndrum Lower to Upper Tyndrum, Paisley Gilmour Street to Paisley Canal, Falkirk Grahamston to Falkirk High, Coatbridge Sunnyside to Coatbridge Central, Blackpool North to Blackpool South, Heath High Level to Heath Low Level, Wakefield Westgate to Wakefield Kirkgate, Pontefract Monkhill to Pontefract Baghill via Pontefract Tanshelf... and doubtless, many more!

[@craigix]

I saw the title of this suggested and did a double take, I love the absurdity of this, I can also remember as a very young child being taken to explore the derelict Manors station. It was huge and had numerous tunnels running under it, which we tried to get through. It says on wiki it closed in 1978 but it would have been mid 80s when we explored it.

[@anthonywarrener1881]

Thank you for this amusing video ! You didn’t really need to go all the way to Sunderland to change for a northbound train to Manors. A simple cross platform change at Pelaw would have been much quicker, with additional trains coming up from South Shields !

[@billymcmedic4221]

Pelaw doesn’t have a national rail platform, he was getting a northern from Newcastle mainline to Sunderland, as Sunderland is a station shared between national rail and the metro, so he wouldn’t have to change stations like he would at a station like Heworth

[@droge192]

@@billymcmedic4221 - I thought there was only one station at Heworth (used by National Rail and Metro)? You're right about Pelaw, no National Rail connection, but are you saying there are two separate stations for Heworth; NR and Metro? Because I ised to live in Heworth (albeit for a short while) and didn't know this haha.

[@billymcmedic4221]

@@droge192 aye yeah, you need to head out through the ticket barriers at heworth metro, cross over the bus station and you get heworth mainline

[@ajreid203]

btw u can get tyne and wear metro from newcastle central station the green and yellow line stop there also metros are every 20 minutes so u didnt just miss 1 also can u do sunderland station (metro) to sunderland station (nat rail)

[@speakerdestroyer425]

Really enjoying these pointless journeys so far, if I can offer up a few suggestions for future videos in the series: Severn Beach to Pilning. About a 35 min walk between the two but the train journey is much longer and also made even more complicated by the fact that no trains towards Cardiff call at the station anymore. I think you have to go to Severn Tunnel Junction and then come back down the line again and even then the station only gets 2 trains a week (I know there's a local campaign group to get the station back on the map properly) Upper Warlingham to Whyteleafe: It's a 3 minute walk between the two stations but the train journey involves having to go all the way up to South/East Croydon and then coming back down the other line again Dorking (main) to Dorking Deepdene: Another short walk between two stations but on perpendicular lines. I think you have to go to Guildford and then get a train towards Leatherhead, make another change there and then come back down the line towards Horsham Clock House to Beckenham Road Tram Stop: a 3 minute journey by foot but the train/tram journey is much more complicated. There are occasional train journeys from New Beckehnam to Beckehnam Junction but these are very limited, the easier thing to do would be to get a train down to Elmer's End and then change to the Tramlink services, changing over at Arena for a Beckehnam Junction tram.

[@carlisroy6666]

Dorking to Deepdene is reasonably straightforward as far as pointless journeys go. Dorking to Horsham, Horsham to Gatwick, Gatwick to Deepdene.

[@quintuscrinis]

Love this series, really makes me miss living somewhere with a national rail station. Perhaps you could do something like Sudbury Hill Harrow to Sudbury Hill (tube) if you are ever in the London area? Or st Albans Abbey to St Albans City?

[@FurryGaru]

Could we get behind Catford to Catford Bridge, the journey so pointless that you can’t get a ticket for it?

[@aethlingbeats]

Please try Smethwick Galton Bridge LL-Smethwick Galton Bridge HL

[@jacjoh3397]

0:53 you was like "oh" because the train was CancelEd!

[@SiVlog1989]

I recently discovered both your channel and series, needless to say, I've subbed, and one pointless journey I'd suggest is Catford to Catford Bridge (a journey so pointless that National Rail Enquiries says it's an invalid journey)

[@otisreed8799]

I imagine lots of people use platform 4 at monument... but only to alight the train coming from the coast 😁

[@TravelingEurope1]

Why don't you do Waterloo [south western] to Waterloo east[south eastern]

[@harrisjpal]

London King's Cross to London St Pancras

[@Boxersteavee]

Please havw a go in the Class 555s on the metro when they come out some time next year.

[@spiritofcantaolisboa-p8871]

On 6:50min you say no one uses the platform, but in fact there are passengers getting off the Metro cars on platform 4, hence still have a puprose, even just to stand there and, make footage of it and post on a video hoping for success out of it. Anyway, thank you for sharing the interesting video.

[@geocachingwomble]

Platform 4 is used on specific days when football matches are being played and is designed to accommodate capacity for away team fans

[@nixcails]

Platform 4 at Monument used to get very busy on Newcastle United match days when I lived in Neville's Cross, Co Durham in the early 1990's. As Toon Army fans would change for St James's.

[@jackmellor5536]

Some pointless journeys in Scotland ideas. I have 2 ideas the first is the between the two stations serving Glenrothes in Fife which are actually located in villages outside of Glenrothes. The two stations are Glenrothes with Thronton on the outer Fife Circle line (in the village of Thornton) to Markinch which is a station on the Edinburgh to Aberdeen main line. The second idea I have is between the two main stations in Coatbridge. Coatbridge Sunnyside (on the North Clyde Line) to Coatbridge Central (on the Motherwell to Cumbernauld Line).

[@thisis_mudchute]

‘Thanks northern LOVE YOU’ love the emphasis

[@EastStander091]

Love the videos. Smethwick Galton Bridge?

[@barnabydrives3834]

great journey! may i suggest glasgow central high level to low level - don't know if it's possible by exclusively national rail but might be worth a try! otherwise, glasgow queen street high level to low level without going to edinburgh!!

[@benbrist]

Glasgow Central (Lower Level) to Motherwell. Then Motherwell to Glasgow Central (Higher Level). Quite straight forward! Could make it more interesting by doing Glasgow Central (Lower Level) to Partick. Then Partick to Edinburgh. Then Edinburgh to Glasgow Central (Higher Level) via Airdrie. That'd take a good 3/4 hours 🤣 Could do either back to front

[@barnabydrives3834]

@@benbrist damnit i forgot motherwell is served by both high level and low level, great suggestions!

[@transportlegendshorts]

0:49 face got me cracking lol

[@djk2509]

Dovercourt to Harwich town in Essex with Greatanglia shortest distance btween 2 stops in England

[@droge192]

Yes but wouldn't be a pointless journey as they're directly connected and only take 18 seconds to travel between.

[@thisis_mudchute]

You can also do this Catford - Catford Bridge in London (but you have to use oyster or comtactless because theres no paper tivkets for it)

[@ThermoMan]

Nice concept. I like the music you use too

[@jakeee114]

Recommendation; Oulton Broad North to Oulton Broad South, they’re not directly connected by rail

[@OriginsReborn]

You just popped up on my feed for some reason? ..interesting concept! But what struck me is, you're a Doppelganger for a bloke on another 'interesting concept' channel 'Christopher Collects'. Even down to the slightly cheesey incidental jazz muzak!

[@thomasjubb9619]

Do this with Meadowhall tram stop and Meadowhall train station in Sheffield even though the stations are right next to each other that would be hilarious 😂

[@nixcails]

Can I suggest a pointless journey from St Budeaux Ferry Road [SBF] to St Budeaux Victoria Road [SBV] Oh and we have the furthest south highway sign pointing towards Station (As a pedantic chap I believe it should say Stations since Victoria Road SBV and Ferry Road SBF are technically separate) with a West Yorkshire Metro (M) on it! Down at the last stop before Kernow- Cornwall.

[@SeanMidlandstransporthub]

Brilliant video! Really enjoyed

[@mityace]

I would guess that "useless" platform is there in case the line is extended.

[@droge192]

It's used by about 30,000 people when Newcastle United are playing at home. People get the Metro into Monument, then change to that Platform 4, for the 1 stop journey to the St. James terminus (which is right in front of NUFC St. James Park).

[@MaxBarnish]

I've used platform 4! To go to rugby at St James Park - may have been walkable but didn't know way

[@alfiestewart6312]

it's literally a 5 minute walk up the street following the metro line.

[@jonistan9268]

It probably also gets quite a bit of use by people getting off the train. However they obviously don't stand around on the platform.

[@alfiestewart6312]

@@jonistan9268 I've never stood on platform 4. Only used it on a match day to get platforms 1 and 2 when they were rammed. There's a staircase there that takes you down to the other platforms so there is some use

[@droge192]

@@alfiestewart6312 - Yep, but as a visitor to town, you can't exactly "follow a metro line", that is 100m underground! 😄

[@smogmonster1876]

Lol Really enjoyed that. Altho you could’ve made it a lot shorter by going from Manors Metro, to Monument then change from platform 4 to P1 then head to Central Station and get Northern from there. Still a really enjoyable video Nic.k. Thanks for a very entertaining few minutes.

[@Cheeseeatingshark]

I used platform 4 once, then the train broke down just before st james.

[@torspedia]

Whenever you're in London, you can do Catford to Catford Bridge... as they're literally a stones throw from each other. 🙂

[@ashleyjiscool]

You could have a conversation if you were at Catford and the other was at Catford Bridge (except there’s a main road there)

[@jonnystrains]

liverpool central to liverpoll lime street

[@itzsamplayz6046]

I have one, London Euston To Euston square

[@NickBadley]

Already done that one! 😉

[@itzsamplayz6046]

@@NickBadley oh.. I know! Manchester Piccadilly national rail to Manchester Piccadilly Metrolink like go to the airport or victoria or something

[@michaelduffy5910]

The St James Line would be used for all football goers as it stops outside the stadium for matchdays

[@amantheman5820]

You should go Cambridge to Cambridge north

[@mrkangaroo83]

Love these pointless journeys! I've a few pointless journey ideas, mainly National Rail to Metrolink journeys in the Manchester area, bar one Earlestown to Earlestown from the "Northern" platforms to the "TFW" platforms. For the Manchester area : Manchester Airport National Rail to Manchester Airport Metrolink, East Didsbury National Rail to East Didsbury Metrolink, Navigation Road National Rail to Navigation Road Metrolink, Altrincham National Rail To Altrincham Metrolink also all the other National Rail to Metrolink links. One totally Metrolink journey Sale to Sale Water Park a 30 minute walk, but according to the Metrolink app route planner, a 23-minute journey via Cornbrook.

[@_Oli___]

Eccles National rail to Eccles metrolink? Not sure how close they are though walking

[@mrkangaroo83]

@Oli P They are a 5 minute walk from each other.

[@TheJononator]

Some more pointless Manchester ones: Deansgate - Deansgate Castlefield (National Rail & Metrolink) Manchester Oxford Road - St Peter's Square (National Rail & Metrolink) Trafford Park - Stretford (National Rail & Metrolink) Heald Green - Peel Hall (National Rail & Metrolink) Exchange Square - Market Street (Metrolink) Old Trafford - Firswood (Metrolink) Chorlton-cum-Hardy &/or St Werburgh's Road - Barlow Moor Road (Metrolink) (St Werburgh's gets you bonus points for being even more pointless) MediaCityUK - Imperial War Museum (Metrolink) And soon to be pointless journey, Gatley - Cheadle (National Rail)

[@zymurgic]

Blaenau Ffestiniog (National Rail) to Blaenau Ffestiniog (Ffestiniog Railway), via Shrewsbury, because who really wants to use that potentially 'dangerous' pedestrian level crossing when you can go on an adventure?

[@EXOTICPLAYERZ1]

You should do a Sunderland station video or the seaburn and whitburn beach video. would be interesting to see.

[@rockerjim8045]

Monument Platform 4 would be busy on Newcastle match days

[@beckabell9380]

Next time, you could do Thorne North to Thorne South

[@bentyson4322]

I know Geoff Marshall has done it but Catford to Catford Bridge is a great one, can literally throw a ball between the two

[@AlexDellanzo1]

Highbury and Islington London Overground to Highbury and Islington Underground would be a cool video

[@srfurley]

In the past you could have gone between the two BR Manors Stations, North and West I think they were called.

[@MattBuildsBlocks]

King’s Cross St Pancras (Tube) - St Pancras (National Rail)

[@neilwilkins7686]

Loving the Pointless Journeys vlogs ... Something different

[@krisdove2756]

Bradford interchange to Bradford Forster Square

[@exploringallukstations2022]

Fantastic vid nick!

[@Boxersteavee]

How dare you get a nortnern 158 in tyne & wear! They're (quite) rare! Like once every few weeks on my route! (Well i go from sunderland to newcastle)

[@tridentolympus]

If you fancy a Pointless Journey in London, you could try Penge East to Penge West. 10 minutes away between the two, but from Penge East you’d have to go to London Victoria, then either to East Croydon or Crystal Palace.

[@TheMan377-vr2mx]

or you can do East Croydon to West Croydon meaning you havw to go to Victoria then change for a 06 or 36 service to West Croydon (or you can get the 00,30 or 16,46 to either epsom downs or sutton)

[@CurvedGD]

A suggestion of a pointless journey to do is Canterbury east to Canterbury West in kent. They have no good connection lol

[@bracketsthepolicefan]

Maidstone East to Maidstone West might be a good one

[@brucedoestrains]

You can change for the Metro at Newcastle can't you?

[@ethomas5921]

I’ve got a pointless journey idea! Windsor and Eton Central to Windsor and Eton Riverside. It’s like a 2 minute walk up a hill and taking the train between them is pointless.

[@ethomas5921]

Also Dorking to Dorking Deepdene

[@ethomas5921]

Farnborough (main) to Farnborough North

[@ethomas5921]

Birmingham Moor St to Birmingham New St

[@Marcsharp82]

I enjoyed this video, but I did notice your train back to Newcastle was scheduled to stop at Manors, so was the journey to Morpeth especially pointless?😂

[@droge192]

As a local, the only unnecessary part was that he could have "reversed" (got off and got back on in the opposite direction) at Cramlington, which is the first stop after leaving Manors east/northbound. He stayed on a couple more stops to Morpeth - probably because Morpeth is a historical station, and Cramlington is a new build simple platform type.

[@TheHobohobbit]

You could do Shotton (high level) to Shotton (Low level) via Liverpool & Chester

[@u.k.trainandbusvids]

Chathill there’s a pointless journey within itself

[@droge192]

Agree! Why is Chathill a terminus station for the Northumberland Northern trains?? There's nothing there 😄 The population of Chathill is about 4 wealthy farmers and a couple of rich Northumbrian land owners 😆 I'm surprised all Northern trains don't either just terminate at Morpeth, or go on to Berwick.