i have a snapper6 and a ur65, both use 17,000kv motors(3-3:30 min. fly time with 250mA battery.) my conclusion is ur65 flies better, but snapper6 does the job too. they are extremely fun for indoor. i crashed my ur65 so many times as i push it to extreme torture and it keeps on flying, not so with snapper6. plastic or aluminum they do make a big different. Man, and if you put turtle mode on that thing, BOOM BAM!!!!!!! highly recommend to anyone who wants to have more stick time and put away that computer simulator.
@BornIIfly4 жыл бұрын
this was like my second drone after the DJI Tello. where I really got into FPV drones, damn I really had a hard time, hard learning curve. but later to findout I could switch the yaw & roll on the transmitter! Now that it's in pieces, I should rebuild it, upgrade it, need D16 & fly it again. Take care Nick!
@Heiple20074 жыл бұрын
I still fly my Snapper 7, Frsky for mine. Cool Nick, Jeff.
@fpvattitude81636 жыл бұрын
Had the snapper for almost 3 months love it to death i do not fly inside outside only and it rips it does bend a bit sometimes on a really hard crash i dont have your experience with these problems you have had maybe some luck but its the best 1s bind n fly ever built hands down
@dougkresl75386 жыл бұрын
A small backyard and 5mph or less wind works perfect outside. Hoops bend easily and are annoying, but they seem to have less wind resistance than larger plastic frames. Also, I had to update my ESCs and firmware to Betaflight 3.3.3 as my OSD was showing everything but voltage and RSSI...which made it almost pointless. But...once working, a fun little quad.
@mshane866 жыл бұрын
I got the 6 and 7. The 7 has way more punch and better flight times, the 6 doesn't bend up as easily. The 7 flies great with 250mah batteries but only for 2 min. I need the uruav also just to compare because I love cheap brushless whoops.
@c0p0ut6 жыл бұрын
@14:35 They sell plastic frames on Amazon for $10/pair that are claiming to work with the 0703/0603 brushless motors, hopefully w/o modification.
@charleswarwick48496 жыл бұрын
That review was super helpful, was wondering about those two. Also really appreciate you and Albert posting sales! Gotta keep under my budget somehow. 👍
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
Great.
@markthompson86596 жыл бұрын
Nice Vid Nick! I bought a Rakon frame for mine (better aluminum ) motors didnt fit without modding but no big thing! It flys excellent and is pretty fast in the house.
@eyefpv10476 жыл бұрын
Great PIDs. Just applied them to my Snapper7 and love it.
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
Great, have fun.
@mrbeef19786 жыл бұрын
Hey Nick. Hope you are fine. I see you Improved your indoor acro skills a lot. Very impressed. Nice review as usual.
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. So what have you been up to? Haven't seen you commenting recently.
@Sully3656 жыл бұрын
Always good to watch. That 5a esc seems to hold 7-8 for extended periods. Fun flight
@noooooooooooooooooo2406 жыл бұрын
It's 5A per motor, 8A/4 is 2A per ESC, should be plenty for indoor ripping!
@Sully3656 жыл бұрын
Bryce Mitchell errr.. i knew that
@headfog76216 жыл бұрын
I have some sunny sky 0703 ...looks like a match on the bolt pattern, maybe getting a frame that fix's sunnyskys would work for your transplant.
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
I have another frame on hand. I will give it a go. I also have the sunnysky motors, but the stock motors have plugs, I will likely stick with them if they fit this second frame.
@t.62436 жыл бұрын
You got skills! Thanks for the reviews. Always appreciated very much. Looks like a nice indoor quad! I'm now considering the smaller UR65... My wife's gonna snapper :(
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
ha, your too much. I think the ur65 over this, especially for indoor.
@gildardo6 жыл бұрын
Once again a great review. I love your review format by the way.
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@TheWinterfan6 жыл бұрын
I have a Snapper7 and love it. I also bought some spare CNHL 1S HV because Nick Burns told me to ;)
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
eeeeaasssy. While sponsored, where you spend your money is your choosing. I do hope your enjoying the quad and batteries.
@frankbarajas6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for confirming that I made a good choice with the UR65, which I ordered right after your review. However, I was still pondering between these two quads and wasn't sure I had made the best choice for me, but now I know. Still the Snapper7 is a sweet quad and one can never have enough quads, right?
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
They keep getting better and better. Check out Geraldo's comment on a bug in betaflight to fix the twiching. Well here is the article. github.com/betaflight/betaflight/issues/5576
@slebdad6 жыл бұрын
For outside I would think the ldarc et 100,115, or 125 would be the way to go as the Ur65 seems to be the best for indoor. Per your and others advice.
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't disagree with that. In this case I was only attempting to compare the snapper and UR. Mainly due to so many questions about outside flight with both, and the snapper 6 which I don't have.
@ChrisM-yr5tt6 жыл бұрын
Good review and great flying as usual. Thought you were going to give it a good review after the flight indoors. I appreciate your honesty. I am thinking about getting the diatone 2.5 does anything else match up to it at its price point?
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
Its not that is bad, I feel the ur65 is better and the snappers have some flaws we need to be aware of.
@davidanderson62226 жыл бұрын
Damn, that’s a big ass house to fly in You set for the winter, lol. Gotta get me one, woop, I mean
@jayward75366 жыл бұрын
I used same frame nick but cut out the aluminium and just used mounting plate with longer screws works much better good review by the way . I would tell everyone not to buy not worth the money i think the dam qx 65 i bought flys and works better
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
gotcha
@polarbearjf6 жыл бұрын
@Nick Burns Hey Nick was wondering what replacement cam u used as I got the same issue and would a runcam nano do the trick? Cheers, keep up the great work!
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
I think the cam is this bit.ly/2JSFxwY with this antenna bit.ly/2M7VPii but I could be wrong, I grabbed a spare out of the spares.
@dronereviewman95806 жыл бұрын
Your house is perfect for these small fpv drones!!! I like this but the frame looks a little flimsy! Think i would break it quickly lol GREAT FLYING & GREAT REVIEW! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 👍😀👍 I❤DRONES
@prizingir6666 жыл бұрын
Try screws from Rakonheli they have enough M1 ones with their frames. And on the base they have the same frames.
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
I have spares, but I don't suspect to many would have screws this small, but hopefully those looking for them find your comment. Thank you
@briansowder106 жыл бұрын
Speaking of the deals you linked thanks for the 210 you linked from gearbest the other night. I snapped one up. High five man.
@SzilardAndras6 жыл бұрын
Wow! Your flight video convinced me to buy this thing :D I only wish I could fly as well as you do LOL
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
keep at it, it all comes with practice. Also I would look at the ur65 or tiny hawk or the mobula7
@SzilardAndras6 жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV I actually bought the skystars x90 jetcat because it has a more professional look. It's porky compared to those tiny things but I don't have your skills and I have more confidence flying that :-D
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
sure, we need to buy what we are comfortable with. Have fun is the most important goal.
@jaxoezy6 жыл бұрын
Im waiting for my mobula 7 to arrive, I think I will sell my snapper 7 and buy the 65 instead
@LovemyDrones6 жыл бұрын
Nice review, I have the UR 65 on the way already, I feel better about that purchase now that I've seen this. ;-)
@popeye78336 жыл бұрын
Nick what is the complete setup for the 6 channel to make work and arm Snapper 7 with Jumper T8sg plus please
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
I would suggest watching the video on the t8sg I have then use that to match up to generic betaflight setup videos.
@popeye78336 жыл бұрын
on the betaflight the channel 5 don't go in yellow when i use it .... there must be something wrong ...
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
does the switch move? And what is channel 5 set to ....arm? If arm and usb plugged in it won't go yellow. Betaflight has arming disabled on newer versions of betaflight.
@popeye78336 жыл бұрын
Switch not move on Betaflight for channel 5 switch D but it move and come yellow for channel 6 ...Even with Battery only green light blinking and never go fixed as it must be , trim throttle is -100 ... i will do a video to let you see
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
I watched the video. I would also need to see betaflight modes tab at the same time to know what is going on. If channel 6 moves in betaflight what aux channel is that? And have you matched the radio mixer settings to what channel 6 is?
@minkorrh6 жыл бұрын
I'm still waiting for mine to show up, although I've got the extra frame you recommended. The little thing really does rip lol. I'll post back with my experience. I'm pretty good at destroying them so far. I'll make the frames work.
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
The frame from this video? It won't work without modification. The motor holes are slightly off.
@minkorrh6 жыл бұрын
Nick Burns Yeah, I was thinking to possibly fill in and re-drill motor holes. I'm assuming (still not here yet) the Snapper has 4 hole motors? and the UAV65 frames only have 3. Lol oh well at least I'll have something to build on. I ended up with the same package of 2 frames that you have. I could always grab a set of motors assuming the FC and camera are a straight swap. That UAV65 certainly does move. Awesome vids! Thanks for the hard work. Ok I just rewatched the video and see it's three holes. I'll beat the Snapper to death first and then decide on what to do with the innards.
@dobeyxxl28896 жыл бұрын
Would the rakon 76 plastic hoops match up , that might be a easy fix. Also my camera/vtx isnt great either, which did you switch to Nick.
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
Not sure about the rakon. I think the cam is this bit.ly/2JSFxwY with this antenna bit.ly/2M7VPii but I could be wrong, I grabbed a spare out of the spares.
@dobeyxxl28896 жыл бұрын
Nick Burns , Thanks, you wouldn't happen to know what screw size secures the motors or even a screw kit you recomend? Im geussing they are M1 but there seem to be so many options in screw kits.
@smokey85245 жыл бұрын
you are missing 3 screws lol one on the bottom too. i have the same one and i snapped a screw off. fixed it with shoe goo works great now lol.
@RicardoGelschleiter6 жыл бұрын
Looks like Snapper 7 can maintain altitude indoors easier than UR 65, is that right? I'm really confused about which one to get.
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
What you might be seeing is battery sag, I would compare the first min of each flight. The snapper is carrying a much larger battery, therefore it will sag later in the flight. If you plan to fly more outdoor than indoor then the snapper7, but if the reverse UR65.
@imager09tube6 жыл бұрын
You said you change the camera, what did u use, looks really good! Thanks
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
I think the cam is this bit.ly/2JSFxwY with this antenna bit.ly/2M7VPii but I could be wrong, I grabbed a spare out of the spares.
@j.finesseflights14036 жыл бұрын
This Snapper7 flies even better with betaflight 3.5!!!
@billmcdonald43355 жыл бұрын
Yup. I got mine with 3.4 installed. I flashed 3.5.7 and it became an entirely different beast. Much, much better.
@juneloko5 жыл бұрын
Can this whoop run on 2s?
@kkuhn6 жыл бұрын
7:30 you are missing screws on the bottom of the frame
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
yes, I also mention that in the video.
@kkuhn6 жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV Yea saw that right after. Could it be a reason for the jitter though? Maybe replacing those and using some locktite would help
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
I don't believe so. I have been working with others on the issue. We can decrease the severity and the frequency through decreasing dshot. We are thinking it has something to do with component wear and the dshot sensitivity.
@lensflare91166 жыл бұрын
Big thanks for PIDs!
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
sure. have fun
@mikrot-rex7476 жыл бұрын
Great vid as usual Nick. Very informative. Saw your review on the uruav65.. unfortunately i was a little too late in clicking the buy button. Sold out from China warehouse. 😂
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
Dang, maybe they will get more stock soon before the sale runs out.
@johncarold6 жыл бұрын
HAY NICK ! Great video, thanks for all the great info.
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@anbuddi6 жыл бұрын
do you have good snapper7 pids for BF 3.5? the stock PIDs for BF3.3 are perfect, but for 3.5 default PIDs are not so good.
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
I do not. My snapper is now in a plastic frame and on stock BF.
@j.finesseflights14036 жыл бұрын
What came did you put in the Snapper 7 micro? Can I have the link so I can upgrade mine?
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
I think the cam is this bit.ly/2JSFxwY with this antenna bit.ly/2M7VPii but I could be wrong, I grabbed a spare out of the spares.
@rick4x44 жыл бұрын
Bought one from Hobbyking, on sale for $29.99 USD (quad only) came in with defective board, only 3 motors running good, the 4th one cogging.... switched motor to confirm they are all good, & they are... Hobbyking is asking me to return to HK Warehouse, for which they don't have in stock anymore, & I do have to cover they freight, I guess this one's going to trash... :(
@NickBurnsFPV4 жыл бұрын
sorry, to hear that. I haven't shopped at HK in a long time.
@justme_123426 жыл бұрын
Having the same camera/vtx problems.wich one did you use to replace it?
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
I think its this bit.ly/2JSFxwY with this antenna bit.ly/2M7VPii but I could be wrong, I grabbed a spare out of the spares.
@popeye78336 жыл бұрын
what is your radio please ? could you tell me your affectation for each channel ! i try to use with juper T8SG thanks
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
I used the t8sg, frsky x protocol.
@popeye78336 жыл бұрын
yes me too the Frsky X but i couldn't fly as my setup are not good on the radio , could you tell me all your mixer please : !1-Ail----simple 2-Ele----simple 3-Thr----simple !4-Rud-----simple ch5-----simple swH1 Hope you could tell me what is yours to make it fly ! Thank you very much for your news Nick !
@popeye78336 жыл бұрын
Hello, Could you tell me your setup please for the Snapper 7 to make it fly ?
@hambone47796 жыл бұрын
Gonna swap all the parts to a rakon frame. Bought the crazybee awhile back before these came out and it never worked...rxfail... hoping for better luck this time.
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
dang. It seems they are working on this issue github.com/betaflight/betaflight/issues/5576 I didn't have the rxloss with the jumper t8sg.
@dobeyxxl28896 жыл бұрын
I noticed when I switched from D16 to D8 my twitch and drops stoped on this model
@paulterl45636 жыл бұрын
So many rx fails with thisfcb!!.. mine faulty with the us 65!....😦
@ericacae6 жыл бұрын
Note the missing screws...this thing has to be reinforced with glue.
@sidyoung57986 жыл бұрын
What camera did you swap it out with and do you have a link for it
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
I think its this bit.ly/2JSFxwY with this antenna bit.ly/2M7VPii but I could be wrong, I grabbed a spare out of the spares.
@doktordrone6 жыл бұрын
nice review, thank you very much :)
@Iyyobr6 жыл бұрын
How does this compare to the Bwhoop 06 ?
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
I prefer the bwhoop06, longer flight and lighter setup.
@eyefpv10476 жыл бұрын
@Nick Are these stock PID's?
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
1min in are the pids kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqexeWBmd9l1r9k
@FierceCards6 жыл бұрын
mine came defective... haven't had much luck with it.. bad camera/vtx and I as well can only fly about 40 feet away and it loses signal.
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
that does stink
@baomare906 жыл бұрын
Mine came with vtx default band 6 channel 8, 5800M which unfortunately not supported by my goggle. On the manual it says the freq can be changed by a button but I couldn't even find the button on the vtx even under a mag glass lol. Anyone kind enough to point me to the right direction? Thanks!
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
take the camera out of the canopy to change the bands and channel. The button is on the top of the camera/vtx.
@6senses16 жыл бұрын
Nick Burns Thanks Nick! Silly me, I was expecting a button as tiny as the bind button, didn't expect a big on right on top lol...
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
ha. I think KingKong/LDARC is the only company using the flight board with the vtx, where the button to change bands and channels is on the board. Otherwise its on the camera.
@niz766 жыл бұрын
Between the lamps! Between the lamps! ;P
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
you just want more crashes don't you :)
@eZFlow6 жыл бұрын
Where are these elusive PID's for this people are talking about :D Could really use them ;)
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
1min in. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqexeWBmd9l1r9k
@Solar_Apartment6 жыл бұрын
what replacement props would you recommend for this?
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
hmm. it tough for me as I go by feel and my preferred props are expensive, but i like the rakon heli props.
@billmcdonald43355 жыл бұрын
I'm using the ones made by Boldclash for the B06. 10 pairs for CDN$8.11. They work great.
@popeye78336 жыл бұрын
How do you assign channel 5 for arm engine please
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
first we have to setup the radio for a channel 5, we do this in the mixer page of the radio config. Then set that switch in betaflight on the modes tab. There is much to much to cover typing. While this video doesn't exactly cover your question it will highlight what I have typed. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJvPXpScg76NfZo
@popeye78336 жыл бұрын
It is possible to get channel 5 on the H two positions switch simple action or need to get the three position to arm and desarm engine ? it still don't work ...you bind with Frskyx protocol ?
@popeye78336 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2itZYaMftSEr5o
@popeye78336 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIC5hmx6qp1_bbM
@popeye78336 жыл бұрын
DEFAUT IN CLi is : CLi MSP
@marksherman6306 жыл бұрын
Thanks for telling it like it is!
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
sure. Its the easiest way :P
@saixfpv68576 жыл бұрын
So it works with EU LBT D16?
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
D8 mode.
@onclefly84506 жыл бұрын
Hi, Nick, I think go to RC Groups for the snapper7 I post a lot to him for is perfect. 😉
@neo5716 жыл бұрын
Buenísimo...Gracias..
@ReptiHero6 жыл бұрын
Neo571 no entiendo nada. Cual prefiere de los dos?
@neo5716 жыл бұрын
I am starting in this world with the mini drones, both I like and it would be good to teach us to fly, in a video let see the mivimientos that he does with the control, you do it phenomenal especially in the interiors ... Thanks ..
@bennieleip5796 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm i wanned to buy this one because the us65 is in pre order now I don't know anymore 😑 😁
@IceCreams626 жыл бұрын
A faulty camera on arrival...and you replaced it with ..... ??
@abbeyglencircle6 жыл бұрын
check the soldering joints..... i thought it was the camera but it was the joints.
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
I think its this bit.ly/2JSFxwY with this antenna bit.ly/2M7VPii but I could be wrong, I grabbed a spare out of the spares box.
@IceCreams626 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the info :-)
@paulterl45636 жыл бұрын
@PropHawk I believe that is a wooden house
@ryanp66396 жыл бұрын
I got one yesterday but one of the motors does not work. What the heck am I supposed to do
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
it doesn't spin up at all? Even with throttle? Is the motor centered on the hole? Does it rotate pretty free? Maybe loosen the screws a quarter turn?
@ryanp66396 жыл бұрын
Nick Burns yeah I did all that. It must be a wire issue or something
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
does the esc reset if you spin that motor in betaflight?
@ryanp66396 жыл бұрын
Nick Burns no it seriously just doesn’t spin. The others spin perfectly though. It’s sooooo annoying though.
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
Is the connector of the motor wires firmly seated? Like is a motor issue. stinks. :(
@Highstakeshobbies4 жыл бұрын
Is this still good for 2020?
@NickBurnsFPV4 жыл бұрын
If it about $45. Otherwise no. Mobula6 is leading in this category
@marqtaylor82916 жыл бұрын
Pretty nimble but you always make things look like that when you fly.The kitty outside or did he just opt out of today's shoot lol.Happy belated fathers day btw.
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
I think he must have just eaten and off for a nap :). Thank you and you too.
@Thommy28106 жыл бұрын
Hi Nick! If you still want to change the Frame ... this one works without modding: m.banggood.com/Bwhoop75-75mm-Brushless-Tiny-Whoop-Frame-Kit-for-Indoor-FPV-RC-Drone-p-1291714.html You only need 3 really small screws, a few of the black nuts (for distance/from the Snapper) and a tiny little hole at the back of the canopy (otherwise the head of the third screw doesn`t fit) Happy flying! :-)
@tweekFPV6 жыл бұрын
👍 👍
@nickmarangelis22516 жыл бұрын
I bought one and my camera seems to be faulty...
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
change the band and channel. Many are reporting bad cameras, but a change of the band and channel "fixes" is. I believe these cameras are shipping on low band.
@nickmarangelis22516 жыл бұрын
I’ll try it. Thanks!
@nickmarangelis22516 жыл бұрын
Im in a mess... I am struggling to get it to work on my Taranis plus and after binding, nothing works...
@TheXanUser6 жыл бұрын
um... any chance of you getting a speed gun? i bet your hitting almost 40... indoors!
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
I did look at them. Seems the range of what appears to be decent cost in the range of $200 to $300. Hard for me to swallow that high of a cost at this time.
@j.finesseflights14036 жыл бұрын
Haha.. I should have proof read it!! Yes camera. Thank you!!
@MCsCreations6 жыл бұрын
Man! I think that lamp just had a heart attack. 😨
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
nah, its a used to it as the cat :)
@MCsCreations6 жыл бұрын
Nick Burns 😂😂😂😂😂
@yodayedi23256 жыл бұрын
Nice
@gjcg6 жыл бұрын
Hello Nick, excellent review and amazing flying by the way! Wish I had half the skill you have. About the twitching, it is a known issue of the interaction between this flight controller and betaflight. It is being addressed on BF 3.4, have a look: github.com/betaflight/betaflight/issues/5576
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Thanks for the reference.
@baywords6 жыл бұрын
The drones cool and all but I like your house more
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
ha, thank you. Tell my wife, she keeps sending me listings.
@MCsCreations6 жыл бұрын
That's a beautiful model... Too bad it has so many problems. 😕
@zeesh02676 жыл бұрын
Oh man the landing 😞
@NickBurnsFPV6 жыл бұрын
abrupt wasn't it.
@zeesh02676 жыл бұрын
Nick Burns yeah
@kkhalifah10194 жыл бұрын
Can't get mine to hook up with Betaflight. Installed all the drivers, still nothing. 1 desktop PC, 1 laptop, 1 tablet & 1 Macbook, still no joy. When will this hobby make some meaningful evolution & address this USP port nonsense once and for all?
@NickBurnsFPV4 жыл бұрын
could it be the cable being used? Not all usb cables are power and data, especially the free/cheap usb cables.
@brunogp82696 жыл бұрын
Sooo fast
@folkote6 жыл бұрын
Looks luxury and more hq than others, but this is not the point...
@jayward75366 жыл бұрын
These are junk i have one nothing but problems had to rebuild the whole thing . First tome you run into anything the frame bends and youll never get it straight again
@jayward75366 жыл бұрын
GrumpyMadman i agree with you i put all my parts on a plastic frame and it flys much better now if they would have made the carbon hold the motor for the base and aluminium just for the gaurd would have been fine . I had prob with mine out of the box and i paid 123 dollars on amazon so you can imagine why im not happy . The fc is faulty in it also none of the motors would spin up when armed .i had to tottaly redo everything on it to work propperly . Its more like the ur 65 now