HDZero Whoop Collab with HappyModel $180 // Winter Whoop Time Has Arrived // FPV Fun in Comfort

[@NickBurnsFPV]

What do you all think? Areas for improvement? And the price of $180? Big Tip from Ryan: set displayport_msp_use_device_blink = ON This will stop 99% of dropped frames because of this issue. It disables the elements from flashing on screen.

[@etxfpv598]

This is basically what I've been waiting for all along. I think it's actually priced really well considering the cost of the components.

[@zaccheatum2786]

I would think it should be capable of running 3s as it is?

[@elishahodgson1635]

Do you think we can expect an Elrs analog mobula 7 soon?

[@airdevil21]

I think 180 dollars is a fair price 100 for the HD zero and 80 for the rest of the drone.

[@heunyong7783]

150$ - 160$ will be the tiny killer 😁😁

[@aythixfpv]

I'm grateful that happymodel is pushing hdz and elrs sooo much.

[@thirtythreeeyes8624]

For all the hate Happymodel gets they are easily one of my favorite companies, by far the best performing and cheapest whoops they were the first adopters of ELRS and first to release HDzero bnf's. Who ever is making decisions there I hope they continue.

[@leonie9248]

True

[@RyanQuellet]

For the DVR lost frames problem: set displayport_msp_use_device_blink = ON This will stop 99% of dropped frames because of this issue. It disables the elements from flashing on screen.

[@annofpv899]

May i know set which device?or BF?

[@Chris-xe5ts]

@@annofpv899 just BF

[@Lozoot2]

Hot damn that DVR looks GOOD! I fly DJI and would kill for a whoop sized VTX option that doesn't weigh twice as much as the quad

[@KrotowX]

Yep. DJI VTXes should shave half of weight and size to compete with this.

[@FilipRadelic]

You do realize naked Vista is only like 0.2g heavier than this Sharkbyte board? See my latest video, that's a DJI whoop.

[@Lozoot2]

@@FilipRadelic I actually didn't! I'm really impressed with your build, I might have to copy it. You should post a breakdown of it on RotorBuilds! :)

[@FilipRadelic]

@@Lozoot2 I want to but I keep making it lighter all the time 😅 so it’s always “next week”.

[@ATXAirborne]

Great review. I appreciate you showing the various batteries that will fit, I may pick some of those up for mine. You also make me want to buy LED gates, so thanks for spending my money....

[@LeshaRodin]

What is this whoop board? 2s ELRS type-c? Wow

[@ghall05]

Wow that video is super impressive! That dvr is from the goggles and not onboard right? Because I'm having a hard time seeing any breakup whatsoever! Great review!

[@anthonyfpvminiquad1728]

Thats all goggle dvr ;)

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Yes, it only records on the goggle vrx(video receiver) module I do get good image clarity in my house. If we live in a concrete structure or metal studd structure the image quality through rooms won't be as good.

[@jeffro1005]

Any plans on a BNF crux3 hdzero ? Seems like a good platform.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I am not away of any plans for happymodel to make one, but they have been known to surprise me.

[@MickRatanapanyo]

Hi Nick, I know I've asked this question before.. but can you describe the differences in image quality between the FS Scout HD vs the other Goggles with HDZero module you use? Thanks.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

The scout HD goggles have a very nice image, its hard to describe the difference. For me I think the difference comes down to our own vision and ability to adjust, the scout hd cannot adjust but is friendly to various eye sight and ipd. On goggles with more adjustment we can focus the image, possibly, more than on the scout hd and thus the image may appear more sharp/clear. With all things being equal how to image appears to me in the different goggles is very minor, if i only look at the image and don't actually fly I think the scout hd image looks slightly better. But in flight I enjoy the smaller goggle form factor.

[@MickRatanapanyo]

@@NickBurnsFPV thanks Nick, bought one

[@Pr0f.St0rM]

I got some crazy Yaw washout at the end of a dive and sometimes it seems like the Throttle is stuck... The Mob7 is still flying/floating at 0% Throttle for a few seconds. Can someone please help me out with this?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

We would likely need to see dvr and know the size/weight of battery. If the battery isn’t of good health or quality and weighs a lot washout is going to be very difficult to overcome

[@Pr0f.St0rM]

@@NickBurnsFPV DVR is coming tomorrow! :-)

[@Pr0f.St0rM]

@@NickBurnsFPV Here is my DVR Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5-lfIOjiperqNU Read description for more info. Thanks!🙂

[@LANToursVietnam]

Thanks vẻy much for your great sharing on the HDZero Whoop Collab

[@661FPV]

I'm curious about the 2s-3s Elrs Aio! I'm guessing it has the ceramic antenna right? And it fits underneath the HDzero vtx?? Wouldn't that affect the range alot? And increase the gap needed between the Fc and Vtx? I asked happymodel for an elrs aio with a ufl antenna specifically so we can mount something on top of the Fc like a runcam split lite, or Hdzero vtx. I would like to see a close up pic of where the Elrs antenna is at.

[@DonJohnsonFPV]

I agreed on bulky ceramic antenna for tight build. But didn't really see the point on external antenna on ELRS, betafpv micro immortal is nearly twice the weight of an ep2 rx... You rather just ditch that ceramic antenna and replace it with a 31.2mm wire.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

It does have the square antenna between the boards. And yes it does impact the range. I have other builds similar and find the remarkable range of elrs while impacted in this build the range it still well more than I would typically fly. I have taken a build like this as far as I could see video on a 400mw vtx. The take away for me, is we will still lose video before we lose elrs control link

[@flyfpvfish4962]

Nice review 👌.. that's cool I only fly 1&2s whoops.. Q.. my first 1s build got everything connected.. plug a battery in and it jumps up and nothing.. is the fc in the wrong way maybe?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

well it could be what we call board orientation, motor rotation or props on wrong. Look at the image of the quad in the betaflight app, does it move 100% like the image? if not we need to adjust board orientation. Next would be the motor rotation. again in the betaflight app look at the configuration page to see which way betaflight expects the props/motors to rotate. If all four motors don't match the betaflight image use blheli to change the motors to rotate as epected. Last is the props. The high edge of the prop need to lead the way of the rotation. If all those things are 100% we should be able to fly normally.

[@matelslug1]

Hello sir, Can I use my emax goggles to fly this hdzero quad or do I need hd capable googles to fly this quad??

[@NickBurnsFPV]

No, we need the hdzero vrx as well as goggles with hdmi input.

[@reapergrim5324]

Can we use rush tank ufl anteena ? It has better connection

[@FL_Engineer]

Just finished my first 2s build; TKS Rocket similar to your heavy build. I'm hooked on 2s power.

[@zaccheatum2786]

Wait until you try 3s on a 75mm build.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Nice. I think there is a lot of unexplored room in 2s micro quads.

[@rateau-789]

Hi I'm from Montreal Canada and here it's winter :) I'm looking for the smallest drone possible but big enough to withstand the wind... which one do you recommend?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

With HDZero?

[@The-Bogey-Man]

Hey Nick! HDZero looks to have finally released their goggles to purchase on their website so I have a pair coming in the next couple weeks, hopefully 🤞🏻 in your opinion, which is a better drone? Mobula 6 or mubula 7. Mainly looking to fly inside with limited space.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

If the space is pretty small, say total flight space around 1200 sq ft, I would go mobula 6. If larger than 1800sq ft I would go mobula7. Hope that helps.

[@The-Bogey-Man]

@@NickBurnsFPV ok great! Thank you 🙏🏼

[@nodidog]

Any suggestions on how to stop the props flying off during use? It's gotten so bad I can't even fly it any more 😔 I'm buying some new props to try, but thought I'd ask as you've probably got more experience than anyone I can think of!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

This is an issue most don’t have. Typically people have problems getting the props off to change them. We could use a bit of dental floss in the prop hole to tighten them if needed

[@nodidog]

@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks, that's a good suggestion, I'll give it a try. I was thinking of trying to wrap tape around the motor stalk but it's impossibly small

[@typhoon_tommy6197]

Does this not work with the DJI FPV Goggles? Do you have to order specific FPV goggles just for this?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

We need goggles with hdmi in and the hdzero vrx to receive the signal. No it doesn't work with dji goggles. The dji system doesn't support hdmi in and isn't compatible with hdzero.

[@nikotttin]

Aren't there some holes on the whoop board to secure the mipi? They could run a small zip tie

[@NickBurnsFPV]

There are but the thin mipi might not get squeezed much if at all depending on the stiffness of the zip tie

[@firstnamemike]

I ordered this and I didn't hear the part about needing the Shark Byte RX5.1 Receiver and now I had to buy one of those. It wont work with analog at all?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

No the hdzero system isn’t analog compatible

[@eberger02]

I don't do HDZero but would like to try and already have an M7 HD analogue (2S to 3S already). Are they going to sell upgrade kits?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I really can't say. not because I know, but rather I don't know. I don't expect upgrade kits though.

[@jeffro1005]

I have the hdo2. I want to get into digital. I wish I had bought the receiver when it was 150$ is there any reason to get the all in one scout hd ? It’s like the same price as just the receiver. Think the receiver only will drop again in price ?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

My crystal ball isn’t so clear but I expect the the vrx price to drop if the new hdzero goggles this summer catch on.

[@jeffro1005]

@@NickBurnsFPV yeah I saw a video on some that have 1080p Oled with a built in hdzero vrx. Are you talking about those ?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@jeffro1005 Possibly. But I don't think an image of the googles has been publicly released.

[@jeffro1005]

@@NickBurnsFPV yeah seems to be alittle ways off. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYa5l4WOort5aNE

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@jeffro1005 Yes, I think we will see more or have more this spring/summer.

[@jasongauruder-rcstuff7359]

Hi Nick, great review! I may have missed it , but were you running the vtx in 25 or 200mw? If 200mw, I wonder if 25mw would eek out another 10-15s flight time? Although it has decent flight time from what I saw with your flights. Thanks for your in depth reviews!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I was running at 200mw. I wanted to ensure I was stressing the quad as much as I reasonably could 😁

[@kennethdavis1628]

Awesome. I ordered via GetFPV (shows as Pre-Order). Hey, I really appreciate your comments on the batteries. Would be nice to know the battery tray interior dimensions. Couldn't find any of your batteries on GetFPV, so I ordered the Lumenier 450mAh 2S 80c Micro HV - I believe 12mm x 15mm.

[@kennethdavis1628]

FYI: Now I feel stupid. GetFPV shows a bay capable of 13mm x 17mm. Still on Pre-Order, though

[@MickRatanapanyo]

Hey everyone! I've just got the Scout HD from Fatshark. Can't find the manual anywhere. Does anybody have it? I also notice there's no SD card slot, but an internal DVR instead.. how do I retrieve footage from the goggles? Thanks!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

SD card slot is dead center where the goggles rest on our forehead. The foam should have a cutout or it.

[@MickRatanapanyo]

@@NickBurnsFPV wow.. I'm blind. Thanks Nick!

[@Creamy.Commander]

Hey Nick quick noob question: Can you connect DJI goggles to the HDZero cam or do I need that VTX/Fatshark HD?

[@ChrisCroft77]

No HDMI on DJI goggles so need a compatible ‘analog goggles’ with HDMI in or HD scout goggles.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Chris is correct. We have to have hdmi input on the googles

[@richardmcguigan1382]

Serious question this drone or Ariss shadow 25 HD Or Geprc p16 thinking. I am having hard time decided

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Do you have any googles radio etc?

[@richardmcguigan1382]

@Nick Burns i have the dji fpv combo but i also bought the giant fpv remote and i fly the dji fpv drone manual no problem. Babyhawk 2 hd, well lets just say, How do i put this. I SUCK

[@richardmcguigan1382]

I am however getting discouraged because i really cant afford to start over and i realize my mistake on how much more expensive everything is with dji in it. Coupled with not being good enough for the real fpv drone. Been flying for almost 1 year and realize i am terrible in acro mode.

[@richardmcguigan1382]

@@NickBurnsFPV wait i just found 3 screws missing from 2 motors wait wait maybe i dont suck maybe it was the drone...... find out tommorow.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@richardmcguigan1382 were the motors loose?

[@wadecloyd5621]

How is this tune? I have a build similar and would like to use the pids

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I think its pretty good but I an see how some might feel its a bit on the tight side. The pid/cli should be available on the happymodel.cn website.

[@jeffclassics]

That hd looks fantastic. Hi nick, do you have low rates? What's the degrees of your roll pitch yaw? Some people I watch are on angle mode for whoops but you rock with acro given that tight spaces.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

My rates are actually kind of high. P R 1.20 and .8, yaw is 1.3 and .8. Betaflight rates

[@jeffclassics]

@@NickBurnsFPV thanks Nick, 1.3 yaw omg. I thought it's a rule that for yaw to be lower than P&R😂

[@Prop-A]

Really nice Nick. This is what we have been waiting for. But, how to go digital, with so much invested in analog? Does that camera and vtx system work with the dji digital goggles? I have the old EV200D, so it might be time to upgrade, to something that can do both analog and digital.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Unfortunately the dji googles do not have hdmi in port. We would have to add the hdzero vrx to goggles that do have hdmi input.

[@Pyrolassist]

Does anyone know if the channel, band and power of the VTX OSD will be available in future firmware without using SA?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

My guess is future features will depend on community outreach

[@pushies5]

Hi nick ever thought of trying to swap the frame for tks 75/rocket race?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I could. I have yet, those sort of builds or custom changes will likely happen as the weather gets better

[@splugereport]

Still running mobula7. This seems a little sluggish in comparison?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Its carrying more weight, yea it won't have the same agility, but it also has a much nicer view in the goggles.

[@SirCrashaLot]

so I am guessing that HDZero VTXses are very susceptible to noise, there is no DVR from 6s quads that comes even close to how clean your signal is. That would suggest a hardware change but an easy one too ;)

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I couldn’t say. I haven’t used 6s and hdzero. Being a micro flyer it outside my wheel house

[@MCsCreations]

Pretty fantastic flying and review, Nick! 😃 But did you noticed that the Christmas decoration attacked you there? 😂 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@johncarold]

Hi Nick Great video and review of the HDzero and ELRS 2s Mobula 7. That's one of my favorite size whoops. I have been thinking about switching to HDzero and ELRS. But I haven't yet. Thanks again for the information and video

[@airdevil21]

Awesome!! Yes to 2s! Great image quality and good tune its flying very well.Awesome that happymodel came out with a 2s elrs hd zero good combo!

[@boothash]

Everyone seems to think these are great and I have been waiting for them to come back in stock, but I heard these are discontinued.. why?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Maybe the partnership with hdzero and happymodel ended? We can find a number of micros with hdzero now days. Like the mobilte7

[@firstnamemike]

will hd zero work with SKYZONE SKY02O?

[@Fumes74]

This, for me at least is where the HDZero really becomes interesting! If I had the money to insvest in both goggles/modules and this whoop right now I would have bought it for sure!

[@Fumes74]

And yes. 2S is the way to go. Less voltage sag, FC/ESC has better control over motors, more torque and so on. You could always tame it down with max motor output and rates in general.

[@clean1566]

I've got shark bite on a LDARC ET115. But I pre-ordered one of these, because I want to fly indoors more. Can't wait to fly a 65mm inside with shark bite. Awesome flying. If I get half as fast, I swear I'll pee my pants!(old and no control).lol So glad HDZero is continuing to improve all the gear, and justifying my staying with shark bite. On Soc/sec. it made it impossible to switch to DJI, not that I would anyway. Keep the great content coming!

[@SAM-zl1hh]

nick when do you think you will get the betafpv literadio 3

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I have it and have been using it. I hope to have the video out next week. I am pretty slow :)

[@bbsheppo]

Dreaming of the day we get a light 1s digital tiny whoop board 🤞

[@DaveCraige]

Another great vid. Thanks Nick!

[@carlosr.2027]

Will this work with Fat Shark Byte Digital HD Video System TX5S.1 Transmitter ?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

yes

[@carlosr.2027]

Thanx 👍

[@captaindronieversefpv]

can use that vtx on other Analog Goggle ?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

only if you have the video receiver module to use with it. I think the direct answer to your question is no.

[@zaccheatum2786]

It's this also capable of running on 3s? Seems from the specs that it should be. 9000kv motors seem more suited to 3s, on 2s I would think that the 1102 13500kv motors would fly better. Then again, I don't fly indoors much at all.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

yes it is. I show a few 3s batteries that will fit in the battery tray. I focused on 2s for inside flight. The day I had weather for outside flight I only had 2s batteries charged :(

[@KancilFpv]

sorry, can i see the pid setting? and the rates?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Pids are what is comes with, I did not apply a custom tune. Tune is from the manufacturer. My rates are pitch and roll 1.2 and yaw 1.3

[@KancilFpv]

@@NickBurnsFPV the default pid is really good, thanks you 🙏

[@KancilFpv]

@@NickBurnsFPV can i ask about PID in instagram DM

[@centerback8898]

Should I wait for elrs radio

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Do you mean to wait for an elrs radio to come to market? There are currently two the betafpv literadio 3 and the jumper t pro.

[@zachmachina]

Wish it wasn't 2s and just a little lighter. Excited it's here though. Can't wait for 1s vtx's and more BNFs.

[@medrone7097]

I’d love to see an 85mm HD Zero for outdoors! In the house, 2S whoops have always been too much for my skill level. This still looks great though.

[@JohnCuppi]

Hey, nick, finally got mine in. HappyModel did indeed take every suggestion you made here, so thanks for helping get an awesome final product in everyone's hands. It's all here: the extra screws, the shaved down canopy mod, the 3d printed lens guard. Side note, I had a little bit of a chuckle though to find a NewBeeDrone plastic bag for the Azi Props inside a HappyModel product. 🤣 But, not a knock on them by any means. It's smart of happymodel to just go ahead and use what works great rather than try to reinvent the wheel.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Yes I think it’s good for our fpv business to work together. I don’t suspect the market is large enough to try to act like islands for very long

[@benjijazz1380]

Do you at all water proof your drones?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I did one and found it to be an undesirable process. I just fly inside when it’s wet out 😃

[@charleshenshaw9099]

Nick, is there a Elrs module that works with the QX7 radio???

[@bertbeinaaf8314]

Happymodel ES24TX will work. And a lot of other brands too i believe

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Yes, i believe most of the "standard" ELRS modules size will work on the qx7.

[@charleshenshaw9099]

Thanks for the help.

[@razorsledge]

Anyone find suitable replacement props?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

There are many we can try, the stock props are some of the most lightweight and smoothest props around. Changing prop might require change the pid tune

[@namr2000]

I'm excited for the HD takeover! I'm usually a 1S Whoop guy but honestly for the crisp footage this provides I think it might be worth it to try out 2S.

[@whooperfpv]

I was a 1s only guy. Went up to 2s because of hdzero. Worth it. But it is inevitable to go up further to 3s and 4s

[@DumbThumbsFPV]

I'm happy to see you got one and told Carl that anything small should go to Nick. However, the antenna needs to route out the back. The camera needs to be pushed forward and lowered. Yes those little screws are very very hard to find but there is a little tray with 100s of different sizes like that on Amazon. They should include extras and probably will. For the price it is a good deal though and the tune looks really good.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Since getting home from work I have been told the antenna will be routed down the back of the canopy "wings" and possibly zip tied down

[@cinemoriahFPV]

I'm behind on the whoop build... I got carried away with the 5" toothpick build 😂🤣

[@reaction7281]

I haven't watch your videos in a few months and I almost didn't recognize you. Lookin good my guy!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Lol thank you. Yes I have been working on reducing my weight

[@dropfile]

Thank you for the review. I'm quite excited about HDZero progress. I just wonder what do red flags in your backyard mean.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

The flags are for a construction project that was to start in November. A pool 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@QSpeedRacer]

Lines under ground marked for work that probably going to be done in the backyard

[@pacificnorthwestpilots6050]

@@NickBurnsFPV uh oh, a pool right where you rip?....could make for some fun videos, lol!

[@robert_g_fbg]

I foresee a video, or two, on applying conformal coatings 🐠

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@pacificnorthwestpilots6050 yes, but it will have a mechanical cover. That was a feature I would let go of. two reasons, safety and to be sure I can easily and quickly close it up to fly. :)

[@jalkingforjesus]

I am very interested in BNF HDZero whoops, particularly ones from HappyModel with ELRS, and this model seems perfect to me. I jumped onboard the sale for the cheaper HDZero VRX and have been waiting to get a camera for a reasonable price to get something in the air, but this seems like a much better option. Thank you for the review and also for suggesting the same mods I would probably do myself Nick!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

That was a really good sale. I would be curious to know how many units were sold

[@northerntierfpv8947]

Nick! Another awesome review! Curious how ELRS performs with 1S whoops inside? does it out perform FR sky indoors? Anyway, can't wait to try one of these! Thanks for the review! Happy New Year to you and your family.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

The part that is noticeable, is the packet rate control isn’t an issue with either inside

[@lanxang173]

I built a custom moblite 7 with the newish Happymodel ELRS AIO. Flies great inside and outside (if not too windy).

[@brianfreland9065]

Welp...I jumped on the elrs train so I guess the next step is jumping on the hdzero train haha. Not a bad thing at all!

[@TitanFPV]

This looks really good! It performs waaay better than the BetaFPV 75HD.(DJI) I just want the 2-3s HM ELRS board for myself. I think BetaFPV's 12A ELRS board still isn't up to the 2s challenge. Thanks for the good review as always.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Is that the 12amp that has two versions the 1s and 2s? I would surely think the AIO will be out 2 or so weeks after the whoop launches.

[@TitanFPV]

@@NickBurnsFPV yes, the v2 is supposed to be capable of 2s. I’ve heard that people have issues on 2s though. I’ll keep my eyes peeled for the new HM board.

[@blithen]

Yes, pre-ordered already. I can't wait.

[@Airbrushkid]

I've been a subscriber and watching your videos about 2 years now. And all your videos indoors look the same no matter what you use.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Is that a good thing?

[@Airbrushkid]

@@NickBurnsFPV Think about it. Analog and digital all look the same no difference.

[@slowentropy4531]

Sooo cool!! But I want my whoops to still be analog alot of the disabled customers of mine (90% of my "customers are in wheelchairs) can't afford (along with myself lol) these digital systems just yet.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Yea. There is a economic barrier to “upgrades”

[@slowentropy4531]

@@NickBurnsFPV as it always has and will be haha.

[@FredCharlebois]

I'm still invest in analogue, but I'm just waiting that wringles get iron out before investing into new fpv equipment. I feel like 2022 might be the year it get real for HD Zero and I'll be more than happy to finally make the switch.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I hope we continue to see great change and improvement. Maybe it will even push other manufacturers to start innovating again.

[@Streamlines]

Aight, that's it. HD is finally here and ready for my kind of quads.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

That does it huh? 😄

[@guk771]

You don't need express lrs you have a spare uart for crossfire etc

[@NickBurnsFPV]

True was can add a receiver

[@guntervanasse5767]

Given that you can tame 2S by scaling throttle in BF (interior|exterior profiles), the addition of HD to such a light platform ... pretty SWEET! Once again, thank you Nick for such a great presentation! It's so informative that I have to constantly pause it and note those precious information nuggets 🙂 I would still like the possibility of an HDZ Whoop on 50|65mm bi-bladed props (which could possibly carry up to 2S 720mAh LiPo); Easily stretching flight times beyond 5 minutes! Just make sure you have the beeper/flashing LEDs to help you find your Nano! Reduce the whoop rims. Make it a lighter prop guard (a simple surround - the 4 props). Sure! 1st thing to break, but make those interchangeable/sacrificial! Keep the electronics in a 'capsule'.

[@parkourrush3820]

The lipos are still availible

[@JohnCuppi]

This looks fantastic.

[@dimanfpv3247]

I love it, I think it's great. I don't fly hdzero yet but I'm not opposed to it and if we get tiny hd whoops I'm down. The DJI whoops just don't get small enough.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I suspect this could also push other manufacturers to jump on board or do something about dji whoop weight

[@FilipRadelic]

My 75mm DJI whoop is 35.8g now with Nebula Pro Nano, and I am still not done reducing its weight, got a custom shorter camera cable on the way from RunCam next... Why no one makes a good BNF DJI whoop, I don't know. See how mine flies in my latest video.

[@kenhartman29115]

I'm going to try to get two of these. One to use as is and one to convert to a TKS GT2.0.

[@mr.baphomet-fpv]

can I use DJI goggles v2 with it？

[@NickBurnsFPV]

No, HDZero has a different video receiver and it is not compatible with DJI goggles. HDZero is working on new goggles and a new video receiver. They will still not be compatible. The video receiver would be if the dji goggles had hdmi input., but they only have hdmi output.

[@mr.baphomet-fpv]

​@@NickBurnsFPV thanks Nick I will wait for that～😆👍🏻👍🏻

[@athefpv4670]

Love it, want it, need more money... Current economy being prices go up, salaries do not so Idk when I will be able to afford it, but it is high on my wishlist

[@9thGenerationCajun]

KZbin sent me to you via the monthly Creators letter,Glad they did very cool!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Wow that is pretty cool. I didn’t get that email. If you don’t mind could you forward a copy to me? [e-mail] thank you

[@sketchpv3080]

Cool whoop! I’ve been “ruined” by DJI FPV video so much that I don’t enjoy flying my analog Mobula6 anymore. So the idea of HD indoor whooping is very appealing to me. However, I found my old 1102 Mobula7 on 2S to be just overly fast and heavy to be fun to fly inside my small house at race-pace and unfortunately this new whoop would likely be more of the same in that regard.

[@KOrnhOliO1]

Yeah, I agree. We're ruined by superb image quality and the ability to fly around houses, walls, etc. and get amazing penetration and keep the clarity! :) Why is NO ONE experimenting with building an Ultra lightweight whoop with a Naked Vista in it? Look on KZbin, almost no one is doing it, and the ones that are there, and there are very few, are heavier than the lightest whoop to date, the BetaFPV 75X digital. If you already have 1102 motors, do you have a Mobula7 frame and can you do a Naked Vista and put together a whoop that'll BLOW AWAY this snow filled, zero penetration, not impressive to me whoop with HDZero?! My BetaFPV 75X Absolutely KILLS this wantabe digital whoop! No comparison! The HDZero whoop is fine for inside, but as soon as he tries flying around a neighbors house, that isn't far away at all, you can barely see an image to keep going! :(

[@kurtzFPV]

@@KOrnhOliO1 I have a lot of DJI quads and still end up flying more analog because I am able to fly more at my house and in my yard. I now very much regret not picking up this system when it was on sale for $100. Any close to whoop size DJI quad I have owned was still too heavy to fly inside or even in the yard without risking a dent in a car or a broken window and generally flew like crap. So I reused the cameras in larger builds. I think the video quality is pretty damn good and still might get this for the smaller stuff.

[@KOrnhOliO1]

@@kurtzFPV The BetaFPV 75X digital is only 54g and it flies fine inside for me. It will be great flying in my yard or at parks 3 minutes from me. I also have the lightest 3.5" Toothpick - the Happymodel Crux35HD. I haven't tried it yet in my yard because Oregon is constant rain this time of year, but I know it will be great to fly outside in small areas. I can shave another 10g off it by making it naked Vista. Reasonably priced too, and nicely built! I think you just have to look for the lightest options. Most of the DJI whoops are a total joke they are so heavy. I just do a lot of research. I do mostly fly my mobula6 25,000kv inside though. The DJI V2 goggles work fantastic with analog...such great image quality and such a cheap mod! :)

[@kurtzFPV]

@@KOrnhOliO1 I ended up with two Crux35hds. I bought one when I first saw them come out, then couldn't pass up a second when RDQs had them on sale one week for $269 along with a $150 gift card over Christmas. The vista and camera alone were worth that lol. I love flying them, but no way would I go full send with them in my yard- one wrong move away from denting a car or breaking something. The fastest quad I go heavy in my yard with is the Crux3. Granted, my yard is much smaller than Nick's and maybe yours and I have to fly out front. My neighbors already give me funny looks flying the Crux3. I had the Thinking Pig (P16) when it first came out and flew it some, but it flew pretty badly at any decent speed and was still a bit heavy with battery added. And I'm not a big fan of prop guards outside. To me it was too heavy to fly inside other than at a slow cruise, which gets boring fast. And it still had enough weight to break things inside. I might not go all Nick Burns in the house with this mobula 7, but I'd feel a lot more at ease moving around pretty fast than I would with any heavier quad and it would be a blast in the yard, prop guards and all. This thing is only 41g. Add a 300 2s, and we're talking only 60g AUW.

[@KOrnhOliO1]

@@kurtzFPV I got my Crux35HD on that same deal from RDQ! A real nice design. Happymodel was so damn cheap, that's their first ever DJI digital quad, but they cheaped out and sent the reviewers the analog version! No reviews for the digital, so that quad got no hype on KZbin! Look ... The only guy posting any videos on that HD quad is a guy from China that's a Happymodel pilot. One guy! Such a shame, cuz that's a great quad at a great price! The lightest HD 3.5" Toothpick on the market! They blew it. 🥴 I hope RDQ brings those gift card bundles back. Those were awesome! 👍 Yeah, when I heard it was 41g, and my BetaFPV 75X digital is only 54g, I knew we digital guys could easily get one built that is in the 40's grams. Well, just going to 1102's saves 4 grams, and a different canopy could save even more. I think a different frame is necessary because the naked Vista is mounted in the canopy, not the frame, and it should be there lowest component mounted in the bottom of the frame. Look at a GepRC Cinelog25 and you'll see how they got the center of gravity super low on that quad. As is, it's kinda top heavy. The heaviest component should be the lowest, right? That's what I think an ultra light digital whoop needs to have. Have you got an idea of which 75mm whoop frame would accommodate the naked Vista in the very bottom? I've been looking and haven't quite decided on a frame. But, going with 1102's easily gives us 50g, we can knock off a few more and be really close to that 41g, but with crystal clear DJI digital video. Do you have any 1102 motors, cuz once we find a frame that will allow low mounting of the Vista, the rest is so easy! Got any ideas on which lightweight 75mm frame to use? If we figure this out, it would save you a ton of money, because you have the DJI gear and hardly have to buy anything! You got the best now, no reason to buy a whole new system because we can get close to that 41g and still keep DJI's clarity and penetration. 🤔😎🤘

[@jayheine8108]

Love your videos they are always great and full of great info! Keep up the great work!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thank you. Appreciate the kind words

[@mattraymond2935]

Can I retrofit my mob7?

[@zaccheatum2786]

Yes, the frames are basically the same.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I think the mob7 frame is lighter and thus less durable. That would be my only concern, but other wise it will all fit.

[@Lucas_Shaolin]

Nick, would you be planing using all that mob7hdzeo setup on a TKS ductless type frame in the near future?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Yes when we start getting better weather 😄

[@unklStewy]

I've ordered one via GetFPV, so looking forward to ripping that around the house.

[@gingerdude94]

Pricey for a whoop but the video quality is epic. Personally I like whoops and fly a DE65 Pro but as I already have dji and analogue kit I can't see myself splashing out on a new protocol just yet.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I suspect the price point is based on the mobula 7 HD that did onboard "HD" recording.

[@wilmesz1992]

Looks great! When you take out the price of the HDZero setup, you're getting the power unit for basically $70, which is a good price. I like seeing the USB-C port on the FC, but I don't care for the canopy shape, doesn't look like it gives a lot of protection to the camera. Being that a 1s vtx is not available yet, this is probably one of the best options for getting into HDZero tinywhoops right now!

[@KOrnhOliO1]

What looks great? The image quality is still so damn poor! He could barely fly around a house just two doors down and the snow was a screen full of a BLIZZARD! Barely flyable. JB and Blunty played back Nick's video in their weekly news update, and JB remarked at how Nick wasn't really very far away from his house at all. Flying a Caddx Vista equipped quad I'm positive I could fly that same flight path Nick took and get nearly no break up at all. I wouldn't be surprised one bit if it did that same flight crystal clear the entire way. I just don't get the excitement of HDZero! Sure, the camera gives a better image than the original ones, but there's still ZERO PENETRATION and soooooo much snow! :(

[@wilmesz1992]

@@KOrnhOliO1 Ummm, are we watching the same video? Because I didn't see any snow on here, only a great HD image on a lightweight 2s whoop. If you're referring to his 1W vtx test he did clarify that the construction of houses in the area impedes radio signal, so I guess unless you were willing to go test a DJI system in that exact neighborhood you'd be purely guessing as far as that assumption goes. I'm sure you'd get a little better penetration, but I'd be curious to see how much blurring and latency spikes you'd be getting at the same time, no doubt at least a little. I'm going to stick with my lightweight Skyzone goggles with OLED screens and diopter adjustment on the wonderful HDZero system rather than those big clunky LCD DJI goggles that somehow still manage to give a decent picture. Too bad no one else can watch while you're flying without buying their own expensive setup!

[@KOrnhOliO1]

@@wilmesz1992 Man, is that old news! Ha! We've had Digiview for about a year! We can have anyone download that app, or hand them our phone, and they plug right into their phone and watch the FPV directly. Super simple and awesome! I was referring to when he flew around the neighbors house, a couple of houses down. Barely even get around it and he wouldn't have if he weren't an experienced pilot. Almost lost the entire picture. He knew it would possibly come back around, and it did. But, HDZero has so much snow it's crazy, even at 1000mw! Terrible when compared to the best. No penetration at all!!! I'll be he could fly a DJI equipped quad with the 1200mw mod which is close to 1000mw and he'd barely get ANY breakup at all. Heck, use 700 mw! Use a 120fps camera and get low latency and have a gorgeous picture the entire way. Remember, he's only maybe 150 - 200 feet away! Not far at all. Even JB remarked how he wasn't far away at all. HDZero just isn't impressive in the least bit when you've flown and got used to using the DJI FPV system. Plus, now your VTX / camera combo costs about the same as DJI does, and it doesn't have a receiver! If one owns the DJI radio, you don't need a receiver, cuz that too is built in. way, Way, WAY TOO MUCH HYPE about an HD FPV system, HDZero, that is about 10 - 20% better than analog. Biggest problem is, it's just not a good value for your dollar! Paying that much for such little improvement isn't a good deal. Where as upgrading to the DJI FPV system gives you the very best, by a long, Long ways, that FPV had ever seen. Nothing is even remotely close.

[@wilmesz1992]

@@KOrnhOliO1 Ok bud have fun flying your overweight digital system in these tiny whoops. 19g for DJI vs 6g for HDZero. You can't tell me that 13g doesn't make a performance difference in something that small. Anyways I'm glad you have something you enjoy to fly, as do I. I remember a couple months ago how you were telling me that digital was the future and I needed to scrap my analog equipment stat, well I did move on to digital, but I guess that's invalidated because it wasn't to your digital system of choice lol. Hopefully DJI continue to support that system even though they've used it for their purposes and moved on to Occusync 3 now.

[@KOrnhOliO1]

@@wilmesz1992 Naked Vista = 9.2g ... Polar Nano = 2.7g ... total = 11.9g HDZero 20x20 board = 5.9g ... latest camera = 5g w/mipi cable ... total = 10.9g HDZero whoop board drops weight by 0.5 grams. Now, everything is only 60fps, with almost ZERO penetration - Ha! That must be what HD"ZERO" stands for! LOL ;) I think it's more like 1 gram difference, A N D that's with up to 1200mw for DJI, where HDZero is only 200 mw max. That new MASSIVE 1000mw board won't even fit in many 5" drones, so that's out. P L U S , DJI's system can go for a 120fps camera which only adds 0.8g (Nebula Pro Nano). Kicking ASS and taking names! LOL So far we are only talking about weight, which is very similar. The BIGGEST difference is obviously in performance, in which there is absolutely NO COMPARISON! Crystal Clear image quality with DJI and super blizzard like conditions with HDZero - Zero Penetration too ... Where DJI really, REALLY kicks it's butt from here to the M00N! Come on Man, be real! DJI is the best FPV has ever seen in picture quality by a long ways. Let's call it a 10 out of 10 because nothing has ever been close to as good. So, accordingly, let's call HDZero (penetration ... LOL) a 5 out of 10, with analog at the very best ever, a 4 out of 10. I can't logically and honestly give HDZero any more than a 5 because it is so far inferior to DJI that it can't possibly rate even a 6 out of 10 because they are not in the same world, let alone ballpark! Please be honest with yourself - there is absolutely no comparison in image quality and penetration. Heck, Nick Burns could just barely make it around a house "maybe" 150 - 200 FEET away (200 FEET is a stretch too because that wasn't far at all), and then he had TOTAL WHITEOUT Blizzard conditions in snowy picture. That was testing the new 1000mw VTX too! You and I both know that DJI can get around that house with barely any degradation in image quality from crystal clear. I'd jump all over HDZero if it was good. I'd be a huge fan, simply because I want the ENTIRE hobby to go to digital FPV ... and the sooner the better. But, with the Consumer Electronics Show opening TODAY in Vegas, and Orqa supposedly showing their digital FPV system, hopefully it is great! That might cause HDZero to be so far inferior to both DJi and Orqa that it can't compete and it may be last in a 3 horse race and people stop supporting it. Orqa wouldn't have to be up to DJI's system, but half way between DJI and HDZero and competitively priced and then people would have to really think about going with the last place digital FPV system. What if Orqa's digital system is BETTER than DJI's? That really spells trouble for HDZero!!! I was in the electronics industry for 35 years. If this happens, it is very possible HDZero would slowly fade to oblivion. Not saying that's gonna happen, but I've seen a distant 3rd place system die because it was borderline good. HDZero is exactly that - ANALOG2, and not a good value for the slight upgrade in quality vs. analog ... not a good way to invest a person's money with that little return. :(

[@fnkycoldmedina]

dam ,congratz on the weight loss ,how you do it?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Mainly caloric reduction. I don’t exercise much so I focus on the food

[@KingTutLight1111]

If they have a 1s i would 100% buy right now

[@slackerinmotion]

$180 is about the cost (if not lower) of sourcing the components separately and building it myself. I would buy one and change out the vtx antenna to a CP one. HDZero and ELRS have revitalized this hobby tremendously and Happymodel is among the first to take advantage of it. Two enthusiastic thumbs up! 👍👍 And Nick, I appreciate your time.

[@MyJam1981]

Looks cool I'm still on analog fpv can't afford to run hd 😔

[@KOrnhOliO1]

what motors? I didn't hear you mention them... :)

[@NickBurnsFPV]

1102 9000kv

[@KOrnhOliO1]

@@NickBurnsFPV Remember when I asked you what motors we could use to decrease the weight of the lightest DJI whoop? ... The BetaFPV 75x digital whoop. Well, I was thinking 1102's, because it comes with 1103's, and I think 1102's would be doable. With the Naked Vista 75X already at only 54g, with 1102's that should drop it down a gram a motor. The 1103's weigh 3.8g where the 1102's can be had at 2.8g each. That drops it down to only about 50g. The canopy while very solid, BetaFPV says that's to protect the naked Vista, but I think some weigh can be shaved off of it too. It comes with the Nebula Nano V2 camera and the Polar Nano is about 1 gram lighter, so there's a little weight reduction there too. Maybe using this same frame used in this video's build could save a bit more weight. I think we could get an ultra light build with the Caddx Vista in a whoop down closer to 40 grams, like this HDZero whoop. That would be soooo much more interesting than this whoop that can barely fly around a neighbors house, what? Two doors down? and not very far down the street. I'll bet a DJI whoop can fly around that house and still remain almost crystal clear. Do you have a 75X digital? I sure wish people would experiment with building the lightest ever DJI Whoop. I've scoured KZbin and there is virtually nothing! No one is doing it! A great topic for your channel, Nick. Because unlike SharkByte ... ERRR ... HDZero, the Caddx Vista actually has awesome video quality, penetration, and there's a HUGE user base that would be very interested in a lighter DJI whoop! :) Sorry, but I can't say I'm very impressed with the HDZero whoop because of the gigantic amount of snow, making it barely flyable, going around a house a couple down from you. With the amount of snow HDZero still has, and the almost non-existent penetration, I just don't know if HDZero will survive. It's been around pretty long, had lots of work done to improve it, and I still don't see that much improvement over plain ole' analog. Sure, it's a little sharper, but it has no range around objects - penetration, and soooooooo much snow! It's got such a gigantic long way to go... :(

[@QSpeedRacer]

Video quality is so good

[@testpilotian3188]

5:15 RIP Xmas decoration lol

[@NickBurnsFPV]

It would have been cooler if I went through the loop rather than clipping the bottom. :) maybe next time they are still up.

[@dkbbass403]

Built one almost identical from a Mob7 HD frame, motors and FC, I just added HDZero vtx, the orange Runcam ( that came with the Sarkbyte bundle) and Express LRS EP2. My build is not as neat and is a little heavier but for flying indoors with HD video in the goggles cant be beat. I shall be buying one of these no doubt about it. Lets hope there's stock soon. Price looks good. I've always had very good experience with Happy Model after sales support.

[@theangsechhourdriver]

Hey 👋 guys 🎉 🎈🎈 ♥️ amazing and vibes 🎉 your You Tube Channel guys.

[@xymaryai8283]

you are very very quick indoors, i've seen a little whoop racing, and in my uninformed opinion you are very up in skill, quite spectacular

[@NickBurnsFPV]

ah shucks. I like to fly and know the house pretty well. I am sure if I were on a neutral track I would pull up a very neat last :)

[@thfpv4974]

Awesome review man looking like hd0 going to be huge with whoops

[@anthonyfpvminiquad1728]

And a 1s board is coming

[@661FPV]

This would work great on a NBD Mosquito or NBD Mosquito XL frame...

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I would think so as well.

[@jakestyles002]

You would make the best high end whoop quad company. Like "WhoopBurns: Hot whoops at cool prices." With punny model names like, "1st Degree Burns" for your first model and "Fair in Height" for a budget model.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

So good. Love the creativity