Most compelling Whoop Product in Years // Mobula 6 ECO // HD-Zero ECO Kit

[@BOTGRINDER]

Fantastic review, i didn't do a video yet but Ive been really digging mine.

[@zoey101dogwablog]

YOUVE HAD ONE THIS WHOLE TIME!?!?!?!!!!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

You got a video coming this week?

[@RyanQuellet]

Oh, that will be interesting to watch!

[@RyanQuellet]

Great video. You are consistently the most friendly and helpful guy in FPV

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thank you. I am in the middle of watching your video. Need to find out what I missed. :)

[@jmquiroga10]

I have two HD zero VTX soon to be three with HDZERO mobula 6 eco. I usually put Heat Shrink Tubing on the notches where the antenna goes. Maybe that would help for the antenna not to fall off.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@jmquiroga10 Long term I tend to put welder adhesive on the connection. Remains flexible and the antenna can be remove but doesn't fall off

[@MoeFPV]

HDZ tightening the GAP between itself and analog! $150 is a very competitive price combined with the lighter weight of the eco board 👀- Cant wait to see your next build with it

[@Fayzooooo]

Over the past 4 weeks you got 3 mob 6 2024. Being a reviewer must be the greatest thing in the world especially for this hobby!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

the per-production mobula 6 arrived in November. Its fun to be able to try different quads out for sure. Took 3 years of videos and a fair expensive before I review samples started being sent in 2018-2019.

[@Fayzooooo]

@@NickBurnsFPVit’s awesome man keep em coming. I’m gonna try to start my own little channel soon but mainly just flying freestyle.. I wasn’t trying to sound negative about it in anyway so don’t take it as that. You’re by far my fav KZbinr when it comes to reviews, anything micro i come straight here first bc 9/10 times you already reviewed it

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@Fayzooooo oh no, didn't take it as a negative comment. 👍

[@Noah-u2z]

@@Fayzooooohaha same here brother. He has a soft spot for the smaller quads as I do as well. I always go to him for the reviews or tips. Something about these smaller quads haha. Being able to fly indoors and outdoors and not break anything often. Cheaper parts and they are a blast!

[@The2xWhiskey]

Nick, you're an asset to the Tiny Whoop community. Thanks for an excellent intro to the new generation of Mobula6's.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Wow, thanks! Your to kind and I appreciate the kindness!! 👌

[@ogdrlove1979]

😂😂 that outtake at the end! We've been doing Infinity Loops for like 4 years now and I still can't get our dang name right half the time lol.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

lol. I don't make that mistake very often, but the messed up way I said it this time was super funny to me.

[@flightevolution8132]

Love your videos NIck. I don't comment very often but I have been watching for a long time - you put out concise, quality videos with just the right dash of humor. Hope you're having a good day.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

oh thank you. I appreciate you taking the time to let me know you enjoy the videos. Its not everyday a long time view submits a comment to let me know they are watching.

[@Halfrightfox]

Amazing review! This is another huge win for team HDZero. Great job guys!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I presume you already fly hdzero?

[@Halfrightfox]

@@NickBurnsFPV Yup! I've been preaching about more affordable vtx's since I started flying. This is much more friendly on the wallet

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@Halfrightfox Gotcha. Thank you for the follow up.

[@wesley4713]

Cool idea with the right angle lead. Thanks for the review.

[@imothy]

I built a HD 65mm whoop (walksnail not hdzer0) using the new NBD cockroach v3 frame, I must say this frame is the best HD frame because it has bottom and top FC mounts, so you can fit both boards securely into a "slammed" style build. This was my 4th or 5th HD build, so I've cut the wires shorter, got everything mounted perfectly, no excess wires dangling around, and on top of that I got tinywhoop 36,000kv firefly motors. I run it at a 85% motor limit and this thing is a beast, my favorite whoop so far!

[@ryancheesman400]

How much does it weigh? I just picked up the new NBD Acrobee65 HDZero. There is a lot to like about it, but it's heavy.

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

I have a 1s walksnail. My motors are amp hungry but damn I quickly be hitting under 3.06v where video cuts out.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

For my clarity your saying the cockroach frame has the mounting for top and bottom mounting, both the mobula 6 2024 frame? Correct?

[@imothy]

@@ryancheesman400 Mine is 23.4 grams, allthough i'm running a heavy betafpv canopy, i could probably get it down to 22.5 grams with a couple tweaks. I get a solid 2 minutes, 3 minutes cruising, 4 minutes just hovering.

[@imothy]

@@divingfalconfpv4602 make sure you are at least using bt2.0 connector and run tattu 300mah packs or similar, the older style packs will give me about 1 minute flight time, tattu I can get closer to 3min.

[@bobbyenache7652]

Wow, excellent all in one fun size package. Ideal for the build I’m working towards. Thank you Nick for another informative video.

[@bentravis99]

Great review! I think analog usually looks good indoors, but it's flaws become obvious outdoors (the red and green static, flashing, dropping to black and white and the "shimmer" in tree canopies all drive me crazy). The HDZero Eco system costs no more than a good analog VTX and camera but are so much better than analog outdoors that it's not even funny (for only a few extra grams). Analog may win for the absolute lightest builds, but this review video has got me seriously considering buying a HDZero receiver so I can try HDZero through my Fatshark HD02s. Maybe I will finally convert if/when they release the Mobula 7 ECO!

[@kingkieck]

I like that you mention taking things slower flying inside when being newer to it. As a pilot that's been flying for almost 4 years, I've only spent 6-7 months total flying inside...and not all together...spaced out within them 4 yes. And indoor acro is something I struggle with just because I'm used to soaring to the moon with a 5"...having a ceiling really throws off the comfort level. I agree that if you don't wanna break things immediately...don't try to fly like Heads indoors til you can do simple CONTROLLED flips, rolls & yaw spins at the very least

[@NickBurnsFPV]

For sure. It takes time and patience. indoor presents us with new challenges and possibly new risks.

[@syrfpv]

Thanks for continuing to give open honest useful reviews.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Thank you. Appreciate the kindness

[@michaelv1984]

Your house is so neat, clean, and lovely!

[@FullThrottleMonty]

I was thinking it would be fun to do a race around my house with kids toys and general clutter all over. Through the hotwheels track, over the projector screen I only use a couple times a year, around the dirty laundry basket, in between the cereal boxes, all while the cat chases it.

[@clean1566]

Thanks for the great video! Was disappointed with my newbie drone 65mm. Could only get 30-50 seconds of flight time on brand new gold batteries. For $10 more I used your link to buy one for myself! I'm also more comfortable with ElrsV3 and the new binding process. Great information, as always.

[@scu-dub]

Tongue twisters 😂 awesome review nick love seeing new mob6's out because that can only mean one thing.....new mob7 on the way😁 can't wait for that rip and review ✌🏼

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I would think so as well. We shall see at this time no word on that development

[@northerntierfpv8947]

This looks interesting for sure. Can't wait to get my hands on one of these. Got the new frame i am going to try this week. Always a great interesting and informative review. Thanks Nick!

[@rcgoodtimes6657]

Wow this is awesome, I’ve been waiting for a good affordable hd whoop since the eachine e010 days. Looks like it can take some abuse, you were so close to that stair move!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Yes so close but just wasn’t pulling it off. Need more practice.

[@Quad_Father]

Great review as always. Would love to give hdzero a try but $600 for goggles… $100 for antennas …. About $800 when all said and done. Expensive to fly whoops around the house. Flying outside on larger rigs I’m all about O3 for the superior range and penetration.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Do you think the VRX is an option? We do need goggles capable of hdmi in.

[@valden]

As someone whos still rocking analog on his sky03O goggles, I'd be curious how an external vrx looks on this whoop 👍

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@valden It should "look" the same. The difference will come in the optics of the goggles. The DVR in the hdzero goggles is the same as in the hdzero vrx.

[@nikotttin]

100USD for antennas?! That's a rip off. I paid my lollipops 4usd each. Works great for short range freestyle/race. I can go around my house that is not made of cardboard... :)))

[@yarbsfpv]

I just can't believe We've gotten to 150 dollar DIGITAL whoops that you can rip THIS FAST.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

pretty incredible right?

[@nikotttin]

My 75mm HDZ is 28.2g. 4g less is very tempting. Thanks for the nice review!

[@MCsCreations]

Pretty amazing flying and review, Nick!!! 😃 Now, if HDZero could record at least 1080p in the VRX... Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@KOrnhOliO1]

Yeah, hardly any difference between the analog mob6 video from a few days ago and the HDZero mob6 in this video. Go compare for yourself! I'm sticking with Analog! Never been much difference between Analog and Analog 2. 😎🤘

[@FullThrottleMonty]

@@KOrnhOliO1 I was excited for HDZERO, but in the end, went Analog. Those HDZero goggles at $600 is too much for me.

[@cyberess1000]

So much good stuff going on here, the HD-Zero ECO Kit at very reasonable pricing, and finally a whoop a HD 65mm whoop worth considering that has motor plugs, I am Walksail and Analog at this moment, but this development thumbs up for HD-Zero 👍

[@NickBurnsFPV]

At the very least HDZero developments should push walksnail in the same direction

[@modquad18]

Such a great time to be alive!!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Yes our tiny ones continue to get better and better

[@stlzjguy]

That’s awesome little quad

[@Wildest_Wahoo]

Great, now I need to get all new HDZero stuff. 😂 Great review as always!

[@Nspecthergadget2010]

Yes sir HD on the rocket race that’s my vote! I’m saving my pennies. Great review

[@DeanMcFarland]

This is the first video that made me think about jumping onto one of the new VTX technologies with the lower priced VTX on my favorite whoop but the cost of goggles is still a lot. I took a break from tiny whooping a couple of years ago waiting for the HD FPV technology to improve and come down in price but it seems that all the competing HD offerings come with tradeoffs and may never be cheap like traditional analog. I used to fly a MOB06/TaranisX7/Eachine goggles (super cheap for this hobby). I think maybe 3 years ago I was looking for longer/clearer FPV video feeds, possibly with sound and longer transmitter range. I think ELRS took care of transmitter range but DJI/Walksnail got heavy and HDZERO seems to have the same range as analog. I still check in on Nick's new vids because he's such a straight shooter and likeable guy (him talking about the playground whooping without upsetting the parents is exactly why I got into tiny whoops) and I'm still on the lookout for a light/long range/inexpensive setup but I'm still looking for the best all-around solution and for the price to come down a bit on goggles.

[@KOrnhOliO1]

Go compare like I did. The analog mob6 video from a few days ago looks almost as good! Certainly not worth the almost $800 to get fully into HDZero...$600 goggles, antennas, battery for goggles, etc. I think the analog mob6 is 90% as good , if not more! There's never been much difference between Analog and Analog 2... I'm just gonna buy the analog mob6! After all, we're just flying FPV, not trying to have the local TV station play it on the News! Lol Analog version looks outstanding without all of the expense! I'm buying it! 😎🤘

[@NickBurnsFPV]

The "HD" systems are probably always going to be more expensive and for micros add to the weight. Unfortunately we could see that change as analog vtx costs could start going up. It has been reported the analog vtx chips could have a shortage coming. Don't know why, and if its a certainty. I appreciate your confidence and kindness coming back to the channel even when your not flying. I hope it is time well spent.

[@LoVeAmBiEnT]

It’s amazing how fast you can fly inside your house.

[@JekleFPV]

I advocated for 4:3 way back when, finally got the HDzero goggles, they should just stick to widescreen by now. Love the look of this quad though, for this price you kinda HAVE to get one!

[@rehepeks]

I usually solder the wires at 90deg to the BT2.0 connector so the wires need to turn only 90deg instead of 180.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

That is a good option as well.

[@Pouncer9000]

Damn. Not about to break out $600 for a new set of goggles, but how's the standalone HDZero Rx? Would it make any sense to put it on an old pair of Eachine EV200D's?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

The VRX is how I started using HDzero. As long as the goggles have hdmi in it will work. As for latency, the hdmi in does add a touch but it still lower latency than dji or walksnail.

[@HarryM-qi6sr]

A little off topic but, I would be interested in see a review of the new HDZero monitor that has both analog and digital capabilities, but not comparing to HDZero goggles. I would like to see the review between analog features and viewing (has the de-interlacer) with other analog monitors such as the SkyZone M5 monitor and maybe others. Never mind all that immersion BS, could the monitor be used to fly FPV from an operational perspective.

[@noscadefpv4954]

you got a loose motor screw.great review as always, got to get me a couple of those hd-zero eco vtxs'.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

That very well could be. I will check it.

[@jdd53]

Decent HD on a 65mm. So sweet!

[@gmivisualsjason3729]

Excellent as always

[@danielreno6187]

Hi Nick, at 1:07 in this video, it looks like one of the motor screws are backing out. Love your videos BTW.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

good catch. That very well could be. I will check it.

[@rickdeckard7549]

As always KUDOS Nick....Looks awesome and that price point is really good, but the flight times on these SE0702 high KV motors is a bit disappointing for me...i think id push it up and do the typical 75mm transitiona and see how that pans out.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

75mm will boost the flight time greatly. Or fly slower I got around 2:40 if I slow down some.

[@Latchfpv]

Impressive bit of kit. May need to look into that as well, as if I need yet another tiny whoop. It's so cute though.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

you have a fleet of tiny whoops.

[@Latchfpv]

@@NickBurnsFPV Yeah, I was sorting through them yesterday and it made me quite happy seeing the different variants =)

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@Latchfpv like stepping back in life or a picture book :)

[@jeffgrey7706]

Listening to the motors on that quad at the start of this video makes me want to buy hdzero goggles.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Keep in mind that while hdzero goggles do have a mic and a mic input my videos use a cell phone recording of the flight audio.

[@GR8SCOTT]

Thanks for another excellent review!!!

[@Jdv1268]

Does this drone come ready to run or do additional parts need to bought?

[@apachesmokewoundedsniper]

That was a great review as always Nick, just one question where can I find inedy floops 😂😂😂 love you videos

[@NickBurnsFPV]

lol. so you watch all the way to the end. That was a fun blooper I had to leave it in somewhere. I should start another channel under that name and post only tongue tied or otherwise bloopers.

[@apachesmokewoundedsniper]

@@NickBurnsFPV I always watch till the end, yeah a tongue tied blooper channel, I will watch that for sure 😉

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@apachesmokewoundedsniper most of my bloopers aren't funny, from time to time I mess up and create a gem. :) I am a big fan of watching mainstream bloopers

[@rodsawhite]

Holy moley. That’s a very compelling whoop at such a low price. And to have hdzero so cheap to put on 2s ? Wowser

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I think on 75mm version would really be good as well

[@HendrixFreakazoid]

Yeah my flying style is pretty much exactly the same as yours and I was gonna hold out on the digital 65mm whoops until they got nearly as light as my analog setups but now I just don't know what to do because this one looks really sweet

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I think the only way to get an hdzero whoop lighter might be to make the vtx as part of the AIO. Which has potential risks and costs.

[@MFD005]

That looks like fun 😁

[@NickBurnsFPV]

It’s a good time. But I am bias whoops are my favorite

[@mercurymoyes4018]

Looks good on the list!

[@Switch180fpv]

Wow pricing really aggressive awesome reviews 😊

[@nikotttin]

Hi Nick, Very nice review! The G and 5v pins on the underside of the eco look like they were removed. Is that you or does it ship like that? Also that eco board in a 75mm would be awesome. If only happymodel would come up with 30k kv 0802 😀

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I didn't not solder or install the vtx I show the close up pictures of. While in the video I mention using the 2nd eco in an outside build I think I am going to use it in a 75mm build

[@nikotttin]

I've just placed my order (because of you!) and will do exactly that:a 75mm :). The whoop lite with a nano3 will go on a 2 or on a 3". To be defined when that lands in the mailbox :)

[@HarryM-qi6sr]

Now, we just need cost effective HDZero goggles. Well, they did come out with the new analog/HDZero monitor for $175 USD which I am strongly considering. Even though JB and others say the you should fly FPV with the monitor and definitely NOT consider it as a goggles replacement, it is the cheapest method that I have seen yet to view (and fly) the HDZero feed. At this point, I am all analog. One reason for me to consider the monitor is because it does have the analog de-interlacing feature. So, I would primarily use it as replacement for analog goggles and get the HDZero viewing as a bonus. Still, the monitor is the cheapest way to view or fly HDZero. Of course, I would use a light box, shroud or something (maybe even just a black cloth like the old camera days, Ha, Ha).

[@h2o40fpv]

What a great video. Thank you 😊.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

my pleasure.

[@mcarignan]

Wow amazing flying as usual++ ! Very impressed with how quick and responsive this HDZ version of the Mob6 is, you really show off its full potential in your videos! I'm a bit concerned about the flight time thought, but maybe that's relative... I have the "original" Mob6 HDZ (prior to the revisions) where I had to swap the 2-blade props for 3-blade versions, replace the stupid PH2.0 pigtail with BT2.0, and flash Bluejay 48KHz (or 96? can't remember) before getting fantastic 3:30+ minute flight times ... but I'm in a tiny condo so I don't fly at breakneck speeds like you (seriously, how do you do that?!) ... still thought... 3:30 vs

[@NickBurnsFPV]

No I don't see a regression, just the opposite for me. My video was so long I opted to cut out the "cruise" flight, this inside flight I slow down somewhat with the same camera angle. The flight time went up on average 25 seconds. Up to our current generation of "light" 65mm whoops to get 2 minutes of flight I would often have to either slow down or fly half the flight at my normal pace then do the second half of the flight with close proximity. The mobeetle is one example of this.

[@lelkinsmd]

Like your screw comments and suggestions. What would I look for to order screws like those you're suggesting? What would they be called? Is there anyplace that offers a screw assortment?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Search for m1.4. I don’t know if the head is called pan head or not. When I buy I look at the images and the product description. Last I bought was about a year ago…I think from eBay

[@lelkinsmd]

@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks. Ordered some screws- not sure they're exactly right, but it will be closer than I knew what to look for previously.... Have a 6 eco ordered, hoping my cats will not be too freaked out by it.

[@doraymon4797]

Hi @NickBurnsFPV and thanks for your great content. At 2:36 you mention the problem of the length of the battery lead. Mine actually snapped off teh A30 connectors as I have been pushing the battery in a more or less centered position. I'd like to try and solder the cable at a right angle as you did there with the analog version of the Mob6. Do you have any video on how to do that? Sorry for the noob question!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

No I don't have a video on that.

[@TweakRacer]

11:55 That sneaky Anna Loag 😆

[@dondupuis4007]

Nick, probably the wrong forum to ask about finding a link, but i saw a video of yours that had a powerful mini flashlight, i can't find the video for the life of me, it was a fairly expensive flashlight, but i would like to order one, any idea what video you introduce it or the link to where to buy it. I check my ipad daily, see what video you publish next, so far i have purchased 3 of the whoops you reviewed without any regrets, plenty of crashes, but all repairable😊 Great video and i really like you see both indoor and outdoor flights.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I think I posted that on facebook. But this is very likely the flashlight crazy bright www.amazon.com/gp/product/B087TKG2CX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1&_encoding=UTF8&tag=nbrc08-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=799f0abbf95760a10e0a9e8a455ea3e5&camp=1789&creative=9325

[@dondupuis4007]

@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks Nick, ordered it, don't think it was on face book, as i don't have a face book account.

[@FIGFPV]

Kind of hard to tell.due to youtube video compression but is the flight footage that mich better than a traditional 400mw aio/ runcam setup?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I think the image quality is better, but I have not done or experienced a side by side comparison. As for the signal quality....the one thing I am confident in is when the signal does "break up" its less distracting with HDzero vs analog.

[@ludofevrier5593]

Nice Nick👌🏼🙌🏼 . Why this mob6 eco is just 0.5 g more lighter than mob6 hdzero...?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Are you comparing stock weight or the weight of the mob6 2024 after the prop changes?

[@ludofevrier5593]

​​@@NickBurnsFPV yes stock weight, impossible to buy the New hq props Light in EU. But i understand why is not more lighter ...the FC are more weight in the New mob6 eco👌🏼🙌🏼

[@dvnstone]

Oh the dilemma,,,, do I pull the trigger on walksnail or zero!?!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I wonder if they are interested or already working on a walksnail version. I don’t know just thinking out loud. Happymodel doesn’t generally get tied to one video system

[@MountaineerFPV]

Will a Walksnail version of the Mob6 be available in the future?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I don’t have any information leading to that development. But it’s possible for sure

[@MountaineerFPV]

@@NickBurnsFPV thanks nick.

[@cristianosaturni]

As usual, very nice video! Thanks. Can we attach a "random" analog camera to this VTX? This would be useful ...

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I don't believe so as the eco camera uses a 4 wire setup. HDZero calls is composite

[@cristianosaturni]

@@NickBurnsFPV thank you. I feel ashamed I did not notice that analog cams without a mic have only 3 cables. Unless the two cables of this eco cam in addition to the 2 power ones are one for video and the other for audio, which I doubt because I cannot see a mic there

[@cristianosaturni]

Nick, would you do a range test?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@cristianosaturni unfortunately no. Doing such a test on youtube is a good way to violate FAA regulations.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@cristianosaturni I don't believe there are any hdzero vtx with a mic on them.

[@Loophole120]

That quality looks the same as my RunCam analog in my sky 040s lol. Does anyone not realize the HdZero is analog with an interlacer to make the picture a bit better. It’s still analog. With a bit more latency

[@modquad18]

You’re right, analog can look very good if you take the time to optimize and the useable range is better. That said, the biggest difference that I notice is the lack of color fringing and flashing that some analog systems exhibit, no matter how good you’ve set them up. To me, HDZ is an outstanding evolution of analog and I find myself using it for most builds and buys going forward. For indoor whoops, especially 65’s, I’m still in the lighter is better camp. But once I can build a sub-20g HDZ 65, I’ll be using it there as well.

[@Loophole120]

@@modquad18 I want to like it , but for what it is right now and the price . I think a lot of people are fooled by the osd being high definition but everything else is the same as analog with the digital effect . The range lacks because the internal hardware don’t have enough information to improve the analog image it’s getting so it produces snow. I agree with you on the 65mm but along with weight the hardware price also needs to drop .

[@modquad18]

@@Loophole120Fortunately the costs do seem to be coming down now! Happy flying 👍🏽

[@christiankildb]

I bought the external analog module bay for my HDzero goggles to still fly analog, but nerver used it... In my opinon its a day and night difference between HDzero and Analog, especially the breakup. Probably on 65 mm the weight penalty is still to high but that led to me flying only 75mm in the last year.

[@anhphamhung01]

Very good flight, can you give me the PID parameters?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

As in all reviews I fly with the PIDs the quad comes with from the manufacturer. They will be available on the manufacturers website soon.

[@Ron-tr2wr]

Hi Nick, what googles antennas polarization did you use in this video?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

hdzero goggles antenna are trueRC right cp and xair patches

[@AnonYmous-ii4tc]

Dude, you are insane when flying in your house.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

lol, I still crash a lot...as evidenced by the crash reel. It has take many a flight to get to where I currently stand. slow process for me. Others pick it up really quick.

[@BreeZieDoesiT]

Hii Nick. Had a quick question. Have you upgraded to 180 degree pigtails to make the battery insert more efficient?. I was curious as which ones you use and where to get if you dont mind!. Cheers

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I did on the Mobula 6 (analog) version, but not this ECO version. I didn't buy a pigtail...I just reworked the current connector.

[@BreeZieDoesiT]

@@NickBurnsFPV OK. I have the eco coming soon and didn't want to be bending the wires. Would you recommend getting a pigtail connector and soldering that to the main lead to make things more efficient?. Curious as to which one you would recommend and from where. I'm still fairly new to all this. Cheers

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@BreeZieDoesiT I don't recommend soldering on the AIO/flight controller unless you have done that before. I would snip an extend the wires with a small extension to each the red and black covering them with heatshrink tubing.

[@nathanmyst378]

im trying to get into the hobby and have settled on a mobula, do you think there will be a 2024 mobula 8 on the way?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

No I don't expect a 2024 version. Maybe in 2025

[@johncalhoun1815]

At Nick or anybody that knows, the drone has an A30 battery connection but BT2.0 is compatible, is there any advantage to running the A30 batteries vs the BT2.0 ? TIA John C

[@NickBurnsFPV]

No electrical advantage or disadvantage.

[@davidforshee5036]

Great review! Do you know if this whoop will bind with my Emax Tinyhawk III Freestyle HDZero goggles and Emax E8 controller that came in the RTF kit. I’d like to pick up one of these. Thank you!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Yes it should. We may have to update the radio depending which version of elrs it came with. This has elrs v3. The goggle will work normally as hdzero supports those googles just like if hdzero made them

[@impuls60]

Now they just need to come out with an eco receiver too! The ship shortage is over :)

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I am not saying they are/would or I know anything, but what would a good price point be?

[@PropsOff]

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[@johncgibson4720]

OMG they did. HD cam+vtx under 6 grams.

[@andi67951]

I am very torn, do I get the mobula 6 HDZero or the regular mobula6 analog. I already have the HDZero Goggles. I tend to think the Eco would be the better choice but on a FPV Discord they told me the weight increase is to heavy. About 6 grams. Is this really that much of a difference? I fly for about two months now and want to get something I can just turn on and rip in my living room for 20 minutes without having to go out and take an hour or more. Can you take this one and loop it around chairs and tables?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I suggest holding off on buying an hdzero whoop in the short run as they have a AIO with HDZero built onto the board. Keep the weight in mind, on a whoop that is 20 grams adding 6 grams is a 30% increase in weight and thus the performance impact would be close to that percent.

[@andi67951]

@@NickBurnsFPV Thank you for the answer.

[@fmimages]

I’m coming back to life from a major stroke so my ability will never reach where I was. I bought the RadioMaster 4in1 and Mobula6 so as soon as batteries for the Radio get to me I’ll see what I can do. If positive then that clear video is what I am after. Would this whoop work with what I presently have?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

No, at least not with the radios current setup. 4in1 modules do not include expresslrs or ELRS. We would need to have an elrs module for your radio. There are many available for around $50.

[@fmimages]

@@NickBurnsFPV I thought so…

[@johncalhoun1815]

Nick, I'm interested in the HDZero goggles do you have a link for them that would benefit you and do you have any idea of a time when they might go on sale? TIA John C

[@NickBurnsFPV]

John, At this time is appears the goggles are only available from the HD-Zero webshop. This is a link you can use www.hd-zero.com/product-page/hdzero-goggle?AffCode=DF39EB87D4 I appreciate that you took the time to ask as well as the willingness to help the channel. Thank you

[@slowvoltage]

I appreciate you.

[@neilfpv]

I just checked their goggle's price, it's still beyond my budget :( I'm hoping they can lower it. Great video though!

[@somebodyspecific2410]

They do sell a standalone VRX if you have goggles that support it.

[@neilfpv]

Ok, checking out VRX. Thank you.

[@somebodyspecific2410]

@@neilfpv No problem! I think you need goggles with HDMI in to use it.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

yea vrx is much more budget friendly. Also I believe HDzero still supports the original sharkbyte goggles that are small box goggles.

[@KOrnhOliO1]

@@somebodyspecific2410 Way more latency with that! Over double!

[@StephaneClement-e7r]

HDZero is not for beginner pilots, it overheats too quickly. My experience with it has been quite stressful as having the drone static for less than 20 seconds will lead to overheating the VTX. I suggest learning to fly and being able to fly with minimum crashing before using the HDZero eco system.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Its worth noting all video link/systems will overheat, even very old analog.

[@barnabysalter3949]

God damn it, just smashed and purchased a new hd zero whoop lite on my whoop.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

maybe if you wanted to, could the order be cancel and/or switched?

[@barnabysalter3949]

I have 5 or so micros using hdzero whoop lites anyway. I'll wait for it to become generally available and keep it as a spare for one of my outside bashing ones.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@barnabysalter3949 I am told fpv resellers have their orders in and they could or should have them in 10 days to 2 weeks. Getfpv has the vtx and camera on preorder

[@freedeeztallbikes82]

I’m so confused. Do you tie your phone to the drone to record the sound?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

no the phone sits on the table just in front of me. Slow down the inside kitchen footage you can see it on the table.

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

Why do i feel like this board camera setup up same weight as whoop lite with nano lite camera. Just the antenna is less weight

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I would need to lookup the old weights on the last whoop kit, but I am pretty sure it’s lighter by nearly 2 grams

[@ilikecrabsalot]

Holy shit you are good at flying... Daaaaaang mind is blown

[@NickBurnsFPV]

thank you. I do like to fly....our house lays out pretty well for whoops.

[@efil4myg828]

What controller and goggles do I need for that drone

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Any controller/radio with expresslrs(ELRS) and goggles hdzero goggles or the hdzero vrx

[@jamesmac6102]

Nick, Can we use the HD zero ECO with Walksnail Goggles X?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

only if you have have the hdzero vrx and connect them to the walksnail goggles hdmi input.

[@Braincho]

Hi, nice fly. Do you lower rates or expo for such a smooth fly or its pure skill/sticktime. Find out today big problem. Hope you can help me solve it. Went to fly my Meteor65pro, but it didn't work. When plugged in battery the motors do the beep sound, but nothing else. ELRS receiver is not working, neither VTX. Betaflight or PC doesn't see the drone when pugged(can se other drones, cable/betaflight/drivers are fine). Not sure if it does anything to do with it, on my last fright it says heat alert 74*C, but I landed immediately. What could it be and what can I do to help it. Thanks.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I have a link in the video description to my rates. Same on all quads. If the flight controller doesn't detect the receiver the second set of tones will not be emitted. If usb connection isn't working I would try a different cable and or computer. USB cables go bad, drivers get messed up. I disable the core temp warning mostly as I have never seen it be an issue when flying. If the temp warning was on screen while flying (forward with some decent movement) and we weren't hovering I suspect something was damaged in the previous flight.

[@Braincho]

@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks for your response. The cable and drivers are fine - i was using it before and it worked, also now it works with other drones. How could i check what exactly is damaged?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@Braincho Unfortunately I couldn't say. Maybe the port is physically damaged in some way. Or the usb power regulator or some trace from the usb port to another component. No way to say, certainly no way to say exactly.

[@Braincho]

@@NickBurnsFPV so the cure is new AIO board?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@Braincho yes, unless we can identify what is damaged and what the component is then source it and place it on the AIO. This isn't something I have successfully taken on. Some have, just not me.

[@Rocketman0407]

For a noob is it fine to start on a Babyape v2 with 2s batteries or should I get a whoop like this mobula? I will mostly fly outside and get a hd vtx once I am better at flying

[@NickBurnsFPV]

even though you plan to add an hd vtx I do suggest starting with a whoop. Are you planning to start analog and moving to an hd vtx or starting with this hdzero whoop and then moving onto a fuller sized hdzero vtx?

[@Rocketman0407]

@@NickBurnsFPV Original plan was to learn the basics on the football field by my house using the baby ape. Then once I am skilled enough to not crash it while flying responsibly install a HDZERO VTX So it can double as a small travel drone on vacation too.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@Rocketman0407 what is your plan for the goggle side? Or do you have goggles already?

[@Rocketman0407]

@@NickBurnsFPV I will need to do some research on which ones are compatible and good. Currently I have Some cheap Betafpv 03 5.8 ghz analogue ones that I use mostly on my RC planes. Any Digital goggles you recommend?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@Rocketman0407 Those betafpv goggles will work with this and other analog quads. Really for digital and analog use there is truly only one, the super expensive hdzero goggles. We can to analog on the goggles x goggles, but the delay/latency for the analog input is pretty bad, nearly unflyable. I can't recommend spending money on older dji goggles for analog input capabilities as DJI won't likely keep the compatibility going forward.

[@piefpv3233]

are they using an analog camera to the HDzero board? if so i want one, I have a few low-light/night vision analog fpv cameras still sitting around

[@NickBurnsFPV]

It’s a four wires camera so not strictly for analog video. I believe they call it composite

[@chronicnugget5595]

Is the FC any lighter than the analog version? Wondering how it compares to the betafpv F4

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I don't have a separate aio to weigh, but due to it having motor connectors I don't see that it would be lighter.

[@PixelSheep]

How does this compare to the WhoopVTX Lite? Got the lite and not sure whether I should change

[@NickBurnsFPV]

In short they aren't compatible with the same cameras. At this time only the FXT camera can be used with the eco vtx.

[@PixelSheep]

@@NickBurnsFPV alright thank you so much for your reply! However I got it wrong - I have the full kit - meaning the WhooopVTXLite plus its camera - are there any differences in quality?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@PixelSheep I think the camera with the kit you have is better if I recall correctly it has the nano camera with is sharper with better colors.

[@PixelSheep]

@@NickBurnsFPV thank you so much for all your responses! I really do appreciate it!

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@PixelSheep my pleasure

[@Tydud3]

0:10 how do i get that good to fly like that lol

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Fly a lot in simulator or in real life.

[@stevenrodriguez4152]

How do you get to the video setting

[@NickBurnsFPV]

either through the betaflight configuration application over usb connection to a computer or via the radio and stick commands through the OSD.

[@marc_frank]

could please take off the canopy and place it on a scanner? i've designed something similar, but I'd like to create a 3d file of that canopy for 3d printing

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I don't have a scanner. Sorry.

[@marc_frank]

@@NickBurnsFPV oh that's sad, thanks anyways :)

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@marc_frank Sorry. for my education what sort of scanner with 3d scan something like a canopy?

[@marc_frank]

​@@NickBurnsFPVthis canopy would unfold to lay flat. so it could also be printed flat. the camera protector would just be a vertical cylinder. so a normal document scanner could work to capture the outline of the struts. for real 3d canopies a high resolution 3d scanner would need to be used. photogrammetry isn't good enough to resolve such tiny features.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@marc_frank got it. Thanks for that additional information.

[@gluino]

Is it possible to add BARO and GPS?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Even if possible it would add substantial weight to a 20 gram quad....I wouldn't advise it.

[@UncleGisueppe]

Who is it in your house that plays the cello?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Our 16yr old daughter does. Has for about 6 years.

[@martr]

What resolution/frame rate does the eco transmit at ?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

That is a good question. I suspect its standard 60fps as only the special cameras do 90fps. Even the hd-zero website doesn't have that information.

[@trickser24]

Honest opinion is hdzero or any digital really much of a difference to analog or is analog still okay to use?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Its a very subjective matter. Some say if its not a particular HD system its not worth flying, while other only fly analog. I still fly about 60% analog.

[@NascarFanatc24]

@NickBurnsFPV appreciate response I'm still looking for best option beyond whoop opinion on tiny hawk freestyle I get alot of people crap on them

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@NascarFanatc24 The tiny hawk freestyle is largely considered more of a quad for the beginning stages. Many have started on the tinyhawk series. Are you looking at HD video or staying at 2s?

[@NascarFanatc24]

@NickBurnsFPV honestly don't know where to start, I wouldn't mind chatting more but don't want to have a major thread on your yt video

[@TheTuterTieuli]

going to order them!

[@KOrnhOliO1]

Compare this to his Analog mob6 video from a few days ago! Almost no difference! $ave your money! Analog looks nearly as good without all of the high costs. Since we're just flying FPV, there's not enough difference for me to pay all that expense...$600 goggles, antennas, battery for goggles, etc. That's nearly $800 bucks for what? Barely any improvement, maybe slightly sharper, over good ole Analog! That's the Evo system for me! 😎🤘

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Jumping on it right away eh? I hope you enjoy it as much as I do.

[@badraven9532]

Got my Mob6 ECO - 1. Programmer not updating it...... eventually HDZ Support admitted they hadn't put the revised (latest) firmware on the website "yet". (but stated the revised firmware is loaded to production output. 2. Mine has constant sparkle pixels right across whole screen area, very disappointing visually! (and so do others, I'm not alone)

[@NickBurnsFPV]

That is certainly disappointing. R1, is going to be the most powerful mw, but R8 is the frequency I fly as it is above wifi frequency and has the least interference in most indoor environments. Also, I hope the antenna is attached? I have burned out a vtx or two when i lost the antenna and didn't notice :(

[@badraven9532]

@@NickBurnsFPV I have reduced the sparkle pixels. As have a few others now. I loosened the screws as the FC was really well (over?) clamped down, the gummies were crushed (they had 10mm screws so longer than your review one?) Even just doing that to gain more clearance between boards and between boards and wiring has all but removed the issue. Have informed HM.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@badraven9532 That is a good find. Do you recall were the boards touching? yes I do believe mine has 10mm screws. That size is pretty familiar to me as I by that size of screw off ebay etc.

[@badraven9532]

@@NickBurnsFPV Not as far as I could see, but the insulation of the wiring between boards was def in VERY firm contact. In order not to dismantle, when the image improved (watching with Transporter2 screen as I did it) I stopped. Have not had to touch it since. 10mm long seems the normal max for 1.4mm dia screws, but they do make servo "washer head" type. HM had used tiny brass washers which if not spotted and retained could fall and bridge/short PCB items, even if THEY don't drop them during assembly! Mine's flying fine now and folded A30 are giving 25% more flight time, albeit still IMO too short.

[@maxl6058]

Outdoors video looks crappier than usual. AFAICS there is a lot of jello on the start. Maybe some bent shaft or damaged prop makes video more blurry

[@NickBurnsFPV]

That could be but I would think if the shaft were to be bent the waves in the video would be more consistent. I see that fairly often, I think it could be from the glass table I take off from. Maybe sun bouncing off it or something. Can’t be certain on that though