I Played 100 Hours Of BLACK DESERT So You Don't Have To (2024 Review)

[@Neeko2lo]

Thanks for watching! Which game should I review next?

[@lma0henry]

Want to give a private server a go? I used to play this game called phantasy star universe. I've been on the fence of trying the private server psu Clementine. The only other thing I've been contemplating trying is maple story

[@LeninCCCP]

Skyforge!

[@jean-sebastienpigeon3307]

Time to go erp with the catgirls in ffxiv 👍

[@Neeko2lo]

@@lma0henry Can't stream private servers so probably won't cover those

[@Neeko2lo]

@@LeninCCCP thats a game I haven't heard of in a minute lol

[@TheMusicolophile]

Every single game stinks when you reduce them to how efficient the grind or farming is. And I believe these concepts were largely born from streaming. The solution? Just play the game. You don’t really need to grind or farm if you just play the game. I noticed a lot of BDO players claim there is no lore or interesting quests in this game. Well, if you’re just focused on spamming through the dialogue and skip reading anything, you are correct. But, again, if you actually play the game for the journey; you’ll find meaning in the quests and a wealth of interesting lore. In short, stop playing these games like streamers and min-maxer’s; and you’ll start having fun again.

[@restinginn9906]

Whats the point of "the best MMO combat in the genre" when there is that much desync it ruins everything? I am so glad you mentioned it. Not saying the combat isn't fantastic to some extent but the desync ruins PvP so much. And then for PvE the game has no endgame content besides running around in circles killing mindless mobs on repeat. It was a fun world to get lost in for a while but the magic died real quick once I got to "endgame".

[@Daniels101]

Great video! I love how you made 100h about the real game and not the first 100 do nothing hours. I personally love just turning my brain off, grind and see numbers go up, but i agree the game is really mid but the combat and the classes simple outshine any other mmo like this for me. I wonder what games you gonna review like this. Some of them really just a torture to play for 100h...

[@Neeko2lo]

Next up might be Monster Hunter and after Im thinking about Lost Ark / OSRS / New World maybe

[@takarot1]

IF engine was responsive with minimal dc i would overlook evrethting else and rate it 8

[@azulanazul5988]

Get a better pc

[@AinGreg]

About D-Sync , its Happend only on Eu/Na servers , SEA / KR servers fell much more smooth .

[@obitum]

Hopefully their central server will help. We used to have an east server back then but they removed it when they unlocked all server cluster :(

[@AinGreg]

@@obitum Sadly PA dont care as much about EU/NA , becouse its only Money makong servers , we can easly see difrence between Pearls price and pearls outfot cost between servers

[@philiptky5310]

@@AinGreg Pearl price and cost is almost same in all region. eg. SEA 3200 pearl box (3200 Acoin) is $100USD, NA Acoin is $1,00USD per 10,000Acoin. So the item prices are different.

[@VenomRaven]

I tried a seasonal server recently on a fresh class and there are SO many pointless quests... I don't know how you got through them all. I gave up after a few hours of running back and forth to quest objectives and skipping through dialogue.

[@Neeko2lo]

Luckily I have done it over many years

[@christien6230]

U spam RRRRR

[@redkolz]

Fair takes and reasonable rating.. Overall good video, looking forward to more of this series.

[@TramRide]

Bro.. first ever "Chicken Hunter" reference I've seen. That was a good 24 years ago lol

[@XTGAMEZ009]

Fair take.. and yeah BDO is a nightmare for new players especially the impatient once.. theres so many systems, items that needs to be simplified though surprisingly this last few updates it focuses on those problems. And if people still want to try it out.. I suggest to join a guild that actively do dungeons, guild boss rush and maybe a little bit of pvp.. that way you won't feel alone.. and always start on season server.

[@ThisIsntmyrealnameGoogle]

I actually really love these mmo reviews and you tier list, hope for more to come!

[@Neeko2lo]

Thank you!

[@ТодорСтаматов-ъ4я]

I know it's an old video, but not so old, so i want to give my 2 cent about it. I 100% agree with the free rewards, passes, and so on. Also with the hundreds of buffs and scrolls you need to pop before going for PVP/PVE. At some point when you are at early/mid game, it may feel nice, but after some time, this is just like a chore, and it's 100% needless and should have never exist. I hate this, and you also feel obligated to pop and go straight up, and not even get 5 minutes off the PC, as you will miss your AP/DP buff or Item drop buff. Same for the Item Collection and so on. They should just buff the drop rates, and remove all of this garbage. The only thing left, needs to be the Agris. Church buff, Tent buff, Scrolls buffs, Food buff, Furniture buff, Horse Buff, Elixir one, Draught one, etc, etc. After you do this for thousand time, you don't want to even start the game to go to grind, as there is so much chore to do before going. The only buff you should have is the Draught with 15 min. that you should keep an eye, nothing else. Now as far as the free rewards and all the login stuffs, they are doing this to force people mind to go into the game and to hang for 1-2 hours to get the rewards. This is garbage design that is f**** people mind and is making you addictive, as you feel you lost so much if you not log every single day. Nothing should be given for free, and instead you should earn that reward by actually playing the game. And events are not real events, just more of the same with better rewards, it's nothing new really. Again the only reward should be if you do a certain achievements in the game, not just log in for 2 hours, you get this for free. Next post will be on to the combat and other stuffs in the game i like don't like.

[@ElectriczZ]

i have reported a bug in 2018 that makes certain skills infinite like the zerker flight when you cap your fps. still exists to this day lol

[@freyerik123]

The problem is players that grinded for 10000 of hours in this game want that they can do pvp with their gear but the problem is , that it is really unbalanced for newer players and they will complain. Yes its frustrating but you will not always face higher geared players and there is still season servers. I got beaten so many times when i was new but after a while i also killed some other players.

[@salmonnona9745]

I agree, Maybe they think giving endgame stuff easily will attract new player, But new player wont last long with overwheming item and boring quest.

[@xerofortune]

Good ol Bdo

[@rtzzzzzz]

All these handouts are the one reason I always go back to the game :D so .... I guess that's how it is by design :)

[@twindenis]

Might sound odd but for me the one singular thing that keeps pushing me away is the numerous buffs I need to have to be on the efficient range along with the need for a value pack to be on an acceptable level for making some silver properly, otherwise the game is pretty much virtually perfect and for some the rng gearing system may be also a thing to push you back from the game but the direction is certainly getting somewhere and yeah the game is bloated with a lot of items that we have no idea about when we log back in.

[@ofensatul]

Love this new series !

[@LosRabinos]

Great video and honest review of the game.

[@wisecherry]

I think the buff management isn't bad and also it isn't necessary as a new player to min-max. I like that there is some complexity which can be rewarding if done properly. As an experienced player it takes very little time to get all the buffs on. I completely agree that all the daily rewards and other free stuff are just nonsense. People should actually play the game to earn their currency/items not just get handed things without doing anything. And for sure one of the worst one is free t9 horse, because not only training skill is already pointless after T8 horses, but now new players have no reason to capture any horses anymore so unless you go for the ranks, training is just dead. And they should get rid of 12h a day marni realm, because it just makes the world more empty. And I do also think that they should upgrade/improve their engine. Btw fishing isnt exactly dead, people are just doing it full afk all the time. Main fishing spots always have people fishing and it is decent money for a completely afk activity. But despite its flaws, the game is still very good. I play it daily and at least for now there is no competition :)

[@Neeko2lo]

Fair takes

[@AuronH]

As a veteran of the game, I will say that the fun and thrill factor of PvP has declined significantly. There hasn't been any major refresh of Node War/Siege besides an increase in the rewards and open-world PvP (e.g GvGs) has been stagnant. I was hoping that War of the Roses would be something similar to Elder Scrolls Online's Cyrodiil, however it turned out to be an extremely limited (participants and schedule) and watered down version of Cyrodiil. PvE in the end-game has become somewhat meaningless while the dungeon content doesn't live up to MMORPG standards. Black Desert primarily excels in its visuals, combat system and the gear system (your gear never becomes completely useless).

[@juniisenpai3777]

now getting 700GS series...

[@illyavogel1660]

What you said in the first 4 min is what so many bdo vets cant explain in 30+ min. Open world pvp players have been sabotaged and the game is just not the same anymore. Back then open world PvP WAS the endgame, now without it, there is no endgame. I can see a new player coming in with no knowledge of this and thinking its an 8/10 and I couldn't blame them. But for anyone who was around since the start knows the game is a sad shell of what it once was.

[@Neeko2lo]

Thats exactly how I feel. That goal of becoming strong to then do open world / siege pvp just isnt there anymore. Guilds arent having these long lasting rivalries anymore.

[@VoidBass6412]

I played bdo for Such a long time, easily 2000 hours. Amazing game, getting progress on your gear after 280 AP, is amazingly bullshit. Even if you manage to Do 200 mil per hour, (Not many can Do that?) that would be 5 hours for 1 bil. For a PEN Belt (ogre Ring) thats 70 bil usualy (its cheaper now because silver basicly crashed for everything) that would be 350 hours for 50 bil, just to have the item safe, without gambling. Thats hardcore. Wasting 350 hours for 1 item, and you would still need other items too.i Iove Grindy games, but this is just straight up mental.

[@adrianwilkiel4173]

Today you make 1.5 bil/h on Highlands bro

[@MrDoit187]

the biggest problem this game ever had, besides the techincal flaws like the desynch, etc, is how the gear scales. the main focus of the game cannot be pvp when most of the players get 1 shot by no lifers. if they implemented an actual cap and not the fake "soft cap" what people always called it, it would be much easier to have a competetive and fun open world pvp scene. thats why bored gearlords went to grind spots to feed new players to mobs. then PA gave marni realms, etc. they ahd to make capped NWs, that veterans abused to ruin the experience. a lot of the big BDO issues could have been avoided if the gear scaling and enhance systems were better. was cool to check on your channel and BDO, i have quit like a year ago and pretty much 100% agree with your takes here. well done!

[@EmptyRegretsTV]

Really nice video , let's hope they bring back the fire of pvp in this game

[@Neeko2lo]

I hope so too

[@johndoe-kz8zt]

another perfect vid love em bro

[@diamondowari6143]

Great vid, can't wait for 100h OSRS haha

[@tails69420]

Good review, by a good person, my only question is, did you have to put every word initial on capital letters? Heheh... Great work, i expect more entertaining from the next games reviews aswell!

[@Neeko2lo]

Thanks man!

[@crypttoid]

Solid review my dude! It's super niche, but potentially check out aion classic. Super old school, really solid game. Managed by GF though 😶

[@_liz956]

Thanks a lot for your video !! Can't wait to see the next one !

[@Neeko2lo]

Ye true I forgot about hit lag. Lost Ark PvP is probably even more dead than BDO. Unlucky

[@maltimoto]

wont waste my time with this game. i will play GW2 and FF14 instead

[@whitetiger8994]

HI neeko as a lost ark player burned out from daily routine (chaos ,guardian,weekly raid on 6 char) and pvp enjoyer; i feel like BDO is the only mmo worth playing at the moment and the only one with potential + there is not much pay to win u can max pets and get good fairy for free, tent is a must buy 30 euros with discounts then u can shop weight limit if u want,value pack once in while with loyalties and u are good to go + seems that pearl abyss is listening player base for pvp and already moving inn the right directions on simplyfing the game.

[@Neeko2lo]

I think I would rate lost ark and BDO similarly but BDO definitely has the advantage of not having horrible dailies and more free form content.

[@whitetiger8994]

@@Neeko2lo and not having to be stuck in a raid for 2 hours because someone doesnt know mechanics,not mentioning about the support shortage

[@thakey651]

This game was so good when it came out. I them competitive of the different guilds and alliances and drama was insane…. Then after iii gear the game became trash lol

[@DzyntaMokry]

BDO could be amazing mmorpg if devs reinvested something back into the game by making new engine for example. Sadly exploiting and milking mmorpg player base is way easier and dont require any effort since we are all beaten dogs desperate for any mmorpg to play. BDO even lost its identity by trying to apeal to wider PVE audience by focusing on pve carebear content as time went on. Such wasted potential, please someone save this dead genre and us from medicore games Prayge

[@crillianmarvin6256]

They have. Added dungeons, black shrines, Marni realm, new classes, new regions, new solo and group grind spots, updated old life skills. They added capped node wars, 3v3 arena, 10v10 guild arena, guild bosses, a new 100v100 wat pvp mode that is being added soon, and a new region that is group and guild PvE focused. And are reworking classes for balance.

[@joe6pak14]

They are, it's called Crimson Desert and DokeV.

[@davidchen4538]

At this point devs have no idea wt they need to do to improve the game,look at the global lab’s patch notes. I don’t blame them. There is no way to balance things out for end game and new gamers. New players want easy way out and end game gamers want more contents. Then there are players in the middle. It is just very hard

[@zrolyn6367]

Time to move on grandpa.

[@quennevelyn]

If u want to play an mmo that’s really truly loved by the developers and the community I can only recommend Guild Wars 2, true it’s rather focused on pve however grinding works very differently and respects ur time, for example gear. there is 5 tiers and the 4/5 tier has remained the best gear since release. Wanna know why? The game will hook u without endless gear grinds etc… the PvP is okay and massive PvP (servers versus servers) is also very nice and is currently being worked on to be even better

[@Darkinse]

Bdo has so much potential

[@ninjaaesthetics4214]

It’s come a long way and gotten way better since launch

[@aronkingkong8558]

Your videos are very high quality. You deserve more attention for the content you are making!! Keep up the good work ;)

[@Neeko2lo]

Thank you!

[@YourFortniteBoizDuo_2.0]

What about Rise Of The Tomb Raider?

[@emperorpudding216]

Saw this video thanks to BlueSquadron reviewing it on stream, and I have to say as a 4 year bdo gamer now, your takes are on point. The game went from a thriving pvp heaven to a boring instanced pve circle simulator, no thanks to the lost ark refugees a few months ago. Sadly there just isn't a better mmo right now to replace it even in its current state. There are plans for new bosses for land of the morning light part 2 later this year (which will be done in groups and requires high gear instead of the "equalized" current bosses) but other than that there is sadly still no reason to gear up, be it for endgame pvp (since most of it is fucking capped now) or endgame raids. I know you get roasted by Stoopzz a lot for your other mmo reviews but honestly good job on this one.

[@Neeko2lo]

Thanks man! I wanted to change it up and actually do 100 Hours so my reviews have a little more substance so I hope that worked out

[@ntfamilia2470]

All mmo wow-lost ark(who became pay to win) aion, etc etc after while is a bit same circle simulator. I play almost all mmo games and bdo is one of the best .(i let out the pvp )

[@Neeko2lo]

@@ntfamilia2470 I agree BDO is doing better than I expected

[@Xenon129-nq6hz]

I agree to most of your takes besides your take on meaning to progress, although I do understand that feeling very well. I think meaning to progress in BDO isn't so much weaker than any other games if you don't think too much about it. Yes, it used to have more meaning way back then and we all miss the good ol' days. However, games like POE or any single player games have basically zero meaning to progress if you seek meaning too much. I really try not to think too much about it anymore. I think that the feeling of the lack of meaning is a sign of you getting older. I'm 37 years old, and my love to gaming has changed from "I love gaming" to "I want to love gaming like I used to". Sometimes I buy games on steam but I'll just get satisfied after making purchase and don't play it immediately lol. Is it because new games are not good enough? I honestly don't know any more. Perhaps you already have felt that too at some point lol Despite all that, I keep coming back to BDO and this game hooks me right in like magic for some reason. Yes, it has very distinct "rough edges" here and there and it makes me face palm how bad some contents are, but I can say BDO is arguably still the best mmo out there that's still worth playing ;) Maybe you should extend your revisit to BDO longer and see if it gives you more motivation like it did to me. BDO community needs more OG streamers back xD

[@sergeoh735]

other games have meaning cause you have good PvE to look forward to. Like Raids in FF14, bosses in monster hunter, story in witcher. The meaning in bdo is pvp if you think its worth it.

[@Xenon129-nq6hz]

If you can think like that then it's total win for you ;) However people like Neeko think way too deep in to meaning to keep playing. Anyways, my point was the key to enjoy gaming is to not think too deep. If you like something about the game and you feel good about the way it plays then that should out weight the meaning to progress. @@sergeoh735

[@Fuz2yman]

I used to play BDO ( your points about too much crap are soo true :)), BUT i think it's the best combat engine existing in any current MMO... You keep mentioning that people should play a different mmo if they are PVP focused, can you please suggest which one? I would love to play a game that is better at it than BDO as it is IMO the best game for PVP and no other game comes close ( you dont even have to grind, just do trial mode practice and Arena of solaire and it's awesome fun )... You need to actually learn the mechanics of other classes, their strengths weakneses, what animation is CCable and from where etc... For example, i recently tried T&L(supposedly a decent pvp game) On korea and the combat there seems basic/boring. Equal gears as a bow/dagger all you do is, root/bind, press 1, 2, 3, 3(if 3 crits) and the oponent is probably dead... The only reactive gameplay comes with the Q(block/evade) and even that is just a guessing game most of the time. In bdo, you need to learn to cycle your super armor/invincibility/frontal block, watch for your opponent's animations, try to bait a reaction from the other player to make him vulnerable, faint ccs, etc etc IMO nothing comes close to BDO combat, even if you do desync sometimes which is normal in any mmo/online game outside of lan

[@Neeko2lo]

All MMO pvp is dead but games like WoW or Guild Wars 2 at least have a functioning combat system that isn't 80% RNG/desync based. BDO is just too inconsistent to be taken seriously

[@Fuz2yman]

@@Neeko2lo Fair enough, i played a ninja and musa and i did notice the desync occasionally, but overall it was smoothish( i have a good low latency ISP though). The thing is, i tried GW2 and wow and i just cant get into the tab target combat :( I completely agree about your other points ( the end loop of grind to grind faster is soo true) but i still think combat mechanics/engine is top shit in bdo, at least comparatively to other mmos, to each his own though

[@Neeko2lo]

@@Fuz2yman I agree that BDO has the best combat system on paper, and its not even close. I just whish they would fix all the RNG in resistances and desync

[@Esotericspirits]

Ma boi is cooking

[@BranchOfMotherTree]

You look so young here

[@Neeko2lo]

was last week lmao

[@ricksolo7336]

They just need to make a Bdo 2.0

[@ninjaaesthetics4214]

As long as I get to keep my gear and characters lol

[@austinhall9179]

@@ninjaaesthetics4214if you keep then no point in a 2

[@Stormofthetitans]

Marni realm is good to avoid toxic player but you still have the choice to grind without it and get bullied by the PK or griefers. "sandbox world feeling" KEKW

[@MegaAmas123]

Hey Hermione, You look great

[@kinglive582]

Whos gonna tell this dude he doesn't have to hold LITTERALLY everything that drops in his inventory. Towns have storage, you don't need to carry all the latent auras and boss crystals from every boss you kill. Especially now that we have universal storage, you can just chuck shit you are never gonna use in the LoML towns and not care about it until you need it. you have 55 sharps 14 hards and 26 flawless blacksones in your inventory, pick one city and leave your enchanting shit there. You exaggerate how bad it is, but you just have horrible inventory management, and when that is your first topic it scuffs your credibility for the rest of the video. Also you dont need all the buffs, but it helps if you want to get the most out of your time. If a 9 elixir rotation is too much for you to remember, just use draughts, litterally better than nothing. I love how this popped up in my recommended. You left BDO for Lost Ark, and now that Lost Ark is dying you jump back on BDO (or maybe you just did it for content, cause your channel is dying without you bashing games people like) and complain how it isnt perfect or what you remember. then after 100 hours you think you an enlightened take on the game, when withing the last year half your videos have been shitting on games and you even quit MMOS. this video title should be "doomer content creator picks at straws cause for views"

[@Neeko2lo]

If you think this is a doomer review you are deluded out of your mind. Don't shoot the messenger, most new or returning players quit BDO in the first 10 hours if not faster because the issues I mentioned. Don't want to hear it? Keep living in your dream world then

[@kinglive582]

​@@Neeko2lo what do you mean you arent dooming. look at the title, "I Played 100 Hours Of BLACK DESERT In 2024 So You Don't Have To". anyone intersted in the game who sees this review is gonna think twice. all because you cant manage your inventory, you dont like getting log in rewards in a game you can leave on 24/7, you dont like questing (when it is litterally the staple of the MMO genre). every time you give this game praise for being "the best in the industry" its always followed with a 'but', you are trying to scare off players by not going into the positives. also "people quit within 10 hours". that litterally describes every MMO, that is not mutually exclusive to BDO. as someone who based their ENTIRE channel around MMOs you should know the information overload of a new game(especially a korean one with predatory micro transactions). but you make up issues, new players arent gonna have years of rewards to collect, they arent gonna be forced to do diarys or long chains from the second they start the game (and even if they do quest off the rip, it helps introduce the new players to the world, cause some people like world building in an MMORPG). There is no gun to players head sayins "do your black shrines or else". scaring new players off cause they might have to do something inconvenient is the worst take ive ever seen in a review. I know bdo isnt perfect, but fuck, no one wants to hear the negative review of a man who played 4 days of content after not making content for it in 4 years.

[@Neeko2lo]

@@kinglive582 I dont like questing in BDO because its literal dogshit, not questing in general. Also I'm showcasing all the positives the game has which is limited to: long term progression and combat. Both of which are hamstrung by either the engine or p2w & handout systems. And yes new players are forced to do questlines and logs if they want to be efficient at all. Do you think someone who logs into the game and tames horses for fun is gonna watch this video? No. Where did I say you HAVE to do black shrines? All I said was if you want to do the new content you gotta go through 10 hours of worthless quests and then you get faced with subpar bossfights due to the engine + mediocre rewards. Nothing I said was "negative" all I reported was the hard cold truth and if you cant fucking handle that then get off the internet.

[@sungclan]

@@Neeko2lo not worthless quests, not only does it give you family wide stats but also crystal slots and many more rewards. if this isnt a Doomer video I dont know what is. Every time you would praise BDO it felt like you had to hold back from throwing up becuase theres always a "but" truly. Just say you suck at the game and cant keep up.

[@Neeko2lo]

@@sungclan Proving my point by saying that the only reason you do the quests is for the rewards and not because they are an enjoyable experience. Common youtube comment take, thinking you are smart hahaha

[@petezAAPete]

fix lag and put group content. like boss rush co op

[@CruelCrunch]

im not sure when was the last time u played new world but its not bad if u can get used to the combat which it is not for everybody iknow but new world has become decent i would say

[@Neeko2lo]

New World review was on launch so its definitely not up to date

[@Jezza_One]

It still has a poor end game and its dying on its knees now.

[@derhenker1799]

I totally agree with your point, that there is really nothing to work towards in the game. You just grind faster, make more money, thats it. I was thinking about the same thing for weeks. I came back to the game after 2 years, and yeah, its infinitely better nowadays, but i dont know why I'm playing it. I made it to 670gs within 3 months and I'm kinda bored. Yeah, I can work on a lot of stuff, on a lot of gear, journals, quests, treasures, but for what... BDO's endgame goal is what you said: to progress. But for what? Nothing really, just simply progress. This is why I will leave it again. But don't get me wrong. It's still an amazing game. Great combat, a massive world with good immersion, the guilds and the community is by far in the top 3 in the genre, you can tell the devs and the staff care about the community too, lots of variety in content (but after a while all of them is extremely repetitive), still the best looking MMO (nothing even compares) with the best PvP. A solid 7-8/10 game for me still. But yeah, you are also right about the engine. Holy-moly its baaad. And they cant change it, no chance, so this is how it will always be like. Yikes.

[@vree_]

BDO before Kamasylvia was definitely in the outstanding 9/10 category for me, I was so invested back in the day. PvP and the fights over territories were a huge deal and basically every PEN item had a story ppl could share. Obviously it had so many bugs, bad UI, desync etc. but the world felt magical, getting gear upgrades felt insanely meaningful and the fact that they still tried to keep everything truely open world, gave it that special thing over all the other instanced MMOs. Ah well Im getting carried away again, but I guess that just shows, how special Pre-Kamasylvia BDO was back then. Current devs lack vision and sadly implement the "easy" game design choices with instancing content more and more. Balancing the open world pvp, fighting for resources and make ppl interact with each other are all much harder to make good, so I guess they just scrapped that.

[@Neeko2lo]

I agree on everything you said. Pre kama BDO was peak and I wouldve given it an 8 / 10 probably

[@vree_]

@@Neeko2lo yeah my 9/10 is definitely an emotional rating, objectively 8/10 is way more reasonable because of its many flaws.

[@sisgardfenrir1985]

Well yeah, for new players bdo can be overwhelming, BUT they re in the change progress. Means, they will do a lot of stuff and things easier. I love and hate bdo, this rng thing sucks rly often 😅 But I play bdo for 4 years now and I will stay there ❤ Its a nice game, with a lot of content ♡

[@dorym572]

Wow 100h in mmo...

[@vladvanessa]

pls review this 8 months later aka now 🤣 check the pvp, nw/siege system

[@Neeko2lo]

Somehow it got even worse xd

[@InsanityNFTs]

Bdo when neeko

[@hachijospaniard5643]

Putting Black Dersert a higher score that Diablo 4. Not thank you.

[@YeshuaHelpMe]

Black desert is a garbage pay to win game

[@zeid9828]

Looking for a meaningful endgame to use your gear progression in pvp and proceeds on saying he stopped doing NW and Sieges. O_O I'm so confused with this logic.

[@kevinwayne7110]

mal nicht so frech moorhuhn gegenüber das war das call of duty damals

[@TehBrownie]

am 2 sec into the video. lets guess his reviews game is 2 out 10

[@kirayaa]

good video but next time go shave and brush your hair.

[@lifekrysiss]

ppl think bdo is lacking/nerfing pvp but the truth is they're just balancing it. Now it feels better, pvp and pve. Nothing is more or less. The difference of pvp back then was that its very toxic, if u think the pvp now is bad. 100% you're a toxic player and should never ever play the game.

[@lifekrysiss]

that is why they added, arena of solar and changed the rbf. They're giving ppl the choice to do formal pvps not like back then which was a fking mess

[@TheCooderix]

BDO for a new player is an absolute mess of an experience. It asks so much of the player with its shoddy UI, constant pop-ups, its combat which is just thrown at you, and seeing this video and hearing about the buff system and i'm just like.. wtf happened. Also, unpopular opinion here, but the movement in this game is terrible. Feels like I am in a constant battle with my character, the camera, the jumping, it's all so sluggish. If I were to go by your tier list and where you've rated your other games, the game would absolutely be in painful tier since I believe it's at least two tiers below NW and D4. It's just not a good experience, actually the literal opposite of NW and D4 in fact, which are both very beginner friendly. Really enjoyed the video o/

[@JAE-yq3bz]

this comment is so 2018 lol. game is very different from 2-3-4-5-6-7-8 years ago buddy.

[@TheCooderix]

@@JAE-yq3bz My comment is so 2024, because I only started playing BDO in 2024. Are you saying it was WORSE?

[@marting9568]

​@@TheCooderix from your comment, try something that holds your hand, sandbox mmo is not for you

[@TheCooderix]

​@@marting9568 To elaborate, the game has issues that will persist throughout your entire time playing the game, such as bloat and its movement, but the game itself from what I have heard AND seen seems fairly enjoyable and good. But that doesn't make the early BDO experience any less bad. I have experience with other sandbox games, that isn't the issue here. If we excuse how terrible of an experience BDO is early on, then the game never improves. The issue isn't themepark vs sandbox, it's that I can't excuse bad game design.

[@ntfamilia2470]

@@TheCooderix BDO is one of the best games. You never get borred and you awlays have to do the same orutine every day all day for months. Yes have problems. Movement is somethign totaly different for a mmo game but just need time.

[@dimon77112]

BDO top

[@gtkingly8127]

after playing bdo I found that the pvp is absolutely horrid they made all these beautiful attacks etc to souly rely on the person your attacking to be on the ground grappled the pvp is just not what I expected tried to get into it but the barrier to entry to the gameplay is just not worth running around avoiding grapples trying to grab and then on top of that the better computer = more dps just made me shelf the game and never come back dont see the love the game gets for its pvp

[@Neeko2lo]

fair

[@KarizmaKai]

utter nonsense

[@zeid9828]

Bdo pvp is far from balanced but your comment sounds more like a "skill issue" rather than the pvp system.

[@gtkingly8127]

yeah the only skill issue in that sentence is not being able to buy a 4090 so you can max your dps or spend 150 hours grinding a hp pot @@zeid9828

[@Darkinse]

Give or take I guess

[@jegermaisterr]

i hear you and thanks for the video, but all i see is veteran player coming back to this game and not get the same feel and nostalgy as it used to be

[@Neeko2lo]

Ye thats certainly part of it. I do think old BDO was a much more involved experience

[@xKingsfall]

You should have given up on the MMO genre a long time ago because you clearly hate it.

[@JathraDH]

I mean he seems like a fair reviewer to me. Most MMO's these days are trash and calling them otherwise is disingenuous.

[@vbm4780]

you didn't even watch the video

[@bjorndebar8361]

If he hates it, why does he invest 100 hours in BDO? Your statement makes no sense.

[@gaborhorvath1794]

He had the time of his life as a kid in BDO and when things like this happen, no matter what direction the game takes you will never feel the same and will always feel bad. That's why he is talking shit about it constantly.

[@jingsterling]

I'd say hate and criticism are not the same thing. Sure he might not always give the most accurate opinion, but this review is very fair. Again he did say its a 7/10 if u enjoy a solo grinder and enjoy progressing like that. Also I really think you should check the current MMO landscape because your best options are either 20 year old games which really might not appeal to newer players or p2w games with great combat but shit systems so until something truly great comes out I'd say its quite hard to be a MMO fan atm.

[@Podex3.14]

Look a lost ark enjoyer reviewing bdo

[@TheLiquidCastle]

thanks for going thought this pain and saving us the time xD can't actually tell, but i don't think i'll ever be convinced any mmo has a better pvp combat system than wow(at least what it used to be in wotlk). it just feels so well thought out. the amount of shit u can do with macros is crazy, certain classes only being able to dispell certain kinda buffs, partly only on mates, partly only on enemys(instead of all healers being able to dispell magic as they could from cata on), entering and leaving combat, faking/kicking/SWDing, and so on...

[@JaxShrimp88]

wow combat and pvp is actually dogshit compared to bdo. its not even comparable.

[@Neeko2lo]

I actually think oldschool WoW arena had some interesting depth ye

[@TheLiquidCastle]

@@JaxShrimp88 couldn't tell, but while flashy visually, it doesn't look like what i'd enjoy. I like casters having to cast, having to stand still while doing so as a downside to having the range advantage and so on. it just feels really well rounded and the way i'd want and imagine it to be.

[@Butcherbg]

Kanon If you actually end up watching this I am sorry for T&L placement in comparison ~ R.I.P. You Neeko guy... thx :P I can see this is a video made by a guy that understand and likes (if not more, but I don`t like that word) BDO (or at least past tense). I have a few stuffs and comments for you even if near the end your video got a bit too ~extended and scrambled my brain/thoughts (I probably can`t even spell that word, to it`s similar and vice verca). Where to start... where to start... Yeah Put Diablo 2 in 10 Masterpiece :P. Also I can see you are on the EU server... You probably were very ahead of me for quite a while, but after you've parked I now have ~more stats than your character... (Not that they are within the actually hard to acquire realm, for those that actually actively pursue them). Now back to where I were gonna originally start and I kind of did... so it`s kind of funny thing and the "stat comparison" above is part of it. So you see I like you for the BDO video you've made... Ooh I've forgotten, the funny chain of events that brought me here... I were/am real time watching a Throne and Liberty Streamer... and someone linked him your video, 34 minutes fresh out of the oven. So the thing is... My more than yours stats... You've still beaten C7 LoML boss before me o_0... now I dislike you for that... it balances out but... erm... Damn you... You come back from who knows how long pause and there goes the C7 I haven`t done yet. Admittedly I were doing it on "abysmal" alt to torture myself and C5 is still 1 time per boss thing for me... When I tried to repeat C5 I ended up removing my alt from LoML and stopped interacting with that content... The reason however is not >Desync< Now I have 2 Stories specially for you... one of them is story... because you picked on the engine so much, the other one is recent (for me and in general PvP story). I wouldn`t like to see the current engine replaced with Unreal 5 any time soon (in fact my brain might be completely fried, but that might be a blasphemy) and here`s why... See earlier on I were playing BDO on a very old PC (I probably am playing on +1 year of your start since today, if you have started in the very beginning) It was very bad for me after remastered, yet I insisted to play it on remastered, because it were more or less equally bad either way... Around short of an Year ago I fully replaced my Old PC with entirely new (or even bellow accounted for today) PC and stepping on it... as it is (I will however not share the exact specs, except 1 measurement under certain parameters)... On remastered, high textures, all everything (players, effects, pets, fairy - Camera effects, not the blurry Anti Aliasing) on admittedly 1080p (that is 1920x1080 on 21` display - native) do you know how my BDO gameplay looks and feels (for my in game current power accounted for) on everything bellow Garmoth and Sieges (which admittedly as willing non guild member I do not do)... It feels as if I have grabbed >the Lord< for the balls... that is how it feels (and because of my specified mid PC and 1080p I am sure that can go ~way up) also there is another thing, because I afk a lot and other reasons I also V Sync (that is GPU caps on as many frames your monitor can display and my 1080p potato also happens to be TV grade 60hz). However if I uncap I go in between 120 ~ 160 on solitary grind or medium amount of more than grind stuffs happening (that is for now a bit of an assumption, I am yet to explore fully that limit) and what is weird it does not Tear... I know it does not displays me 1/2 what happens in theory... but the speed is there and I can pretty much still make use of it (if we assume your claim about FPS = Speed is true... which unfortunately ~unfortunately probably is true) Also this ~variation in between 120 ~ 160 still is butter smooth on omg wtf fast (it`s hard to describe). That is how we reach the PvP story... at this point it is not even really that interesting, I just kind of wanted to share it with you... I were grinding my shamefully low by all standarts spot, and the guy grinding on the slightly harder nearby variation of the same spot, apparently became bored of what he or she were doing. He also happened to be the success spec of my awake choice. So he came, he flagged and playfully swapped me, did not jump PKed me... I kind of were like ~whatever at that point so I touched him for me also "flagging on him" (I did not flag myself thou)... So a fight started and it was a bit messy and unsightly (btw I also were Uncapped at that point, I sometimes try to "feel the difference" between 60 and 140 average, let`s say... if once again we are 100% sure there is one). I won that one... Than he respawned on the spot and I decided to be mean and establish my superiority... however did not work out my way... he played his success to it`s strong points and I became a victim of that, maybe 1 x mess up of me, because I am on Marni Copy paste (if that means anything for you) (But Also my main would have probably been owned more, even if I am more experienced on him). I also got up on the spot but lost again... Than maybe ~again... Respawned on the node this time. I remembered I am on my PvE crystals and food and draughts and artifacts... Because he or she were grinding on the harder variation I assume maybe a bit better equip... + He also obviously knew how to use his toon. So I decided it`s a good time to test my all out... But actually at first I swapped just the crystals and the artifacts... I went to him, because he continued his or hers activity and flagged but I also got intimidated by the mob cluster and had to V (now it`s getting slightly not cool this story). Anyways than I PvP food buffed, PvP draught (same perfume, because I don`t like spending on that more than the cheapest usable). Also gained 100% Rage... Went to him flagged, he moved away from the mobs... and I properly 2 shot him :P 1 Initiation with some CC into 100% he dead... Now he might have thought I am underaged for my 2 previous deaths and 1 V escape and put an armor piece of in before stepped away from the mobs, but ~maybe not. Anyways For me it felt very proper and how it should have been going :P Maybe I should have tried without the 100%... But honestly after my Initiation I lost him visually and I 100% "blind" or ~into the nothingness I just saw the Kill MSG which was enough of proper result :P. I couldn`t see or your remember your nick of the video, but for doing C7 LoML boss in before me, I wanna 2 shot you on sight as a salute now :P (But if you manage to fight back and grab me on that pesky striker and somehow combo my double to yours HP on still even more defensive stats... that would in return make me pretty sadge :P) The Moral of this entire story... or the tl.dr. is... BDO with it`s current engine can and will make use of even 5000 RTX series when they come out and appropriate CPU + RAM + SSD on appropriately sized Monitor and with good refresh rate. I personally wouldn`t be too eager with the swap. I can also testify that PvP have always in any game been very hardware reliant... come on... in the 4 buttons game of LoL... Haven`t you sometimes thought when you clicked your button and the skill did not come out and the opponent parked you flat on your face... is because in the direct comparison his Faster, Newer, Higher Grade CPU told yours to .!. itself? o_0 (more or less) now the Server >is< (hopefully) and be Arbiter in that... or there could be nothing like this to begin with... Also also... That Drakania Grabbed you fare and square... the end.

[@Neeko2lo]

Wow that was a whole book to read. Thanks for watching, but I have never had that experience in any other game. Even in league it doesnt desync at all. You can do the c7 bosses I believe in you!

[@DzyntaMokry]

@@Neeko2lo in league everything is server side, you have 30ms, you click to move, champion will move after 30ms. In BDO everything is client side and later server checks data. You can have 500ms in BDO, you will press W to move and your character will move instantly, not like after 500ms. Thats why you see 1 thing on your screen but in reality you are somewhere else and desync happens. Obviously bdo combat being so fast and cc make it much worse problem.

[@Darkinse]

@@DzyntaMokryyes precisely, but also accompanied with pvp being utterly unrewarding with no incentive😂

[@MilitaryDog.]

Good troll video. You contradicted yourself on multiple points, you painted positives as negatives, you called yourself stupid by saying the game and its systems are overwhelming. I give you a 5/10. Hey! Isn’t that the same score you gave to BDO? 🤔 Either way, good try, keep trying. ✌️

[@osagieagho7375]

Bruh you are taking this too personally. People have life unlike you.

[@MilitaryDog.]

@@osagieagho7375 Seems that you took that personally, friend. 😏