Nier Crossover Alliance Raids! | Grinding Gear Reacts to the Copied Factory!

[@ChrisMajors]

Garrett and Kyle using the most ridiculous voice possible for side characters and then slowly realizing they're going to have to commit to it because said side character gets the equivalent of several Shakespeare monologues worth of text is some of the best this channel has to offer. Never change, lads.

[@craidiefin]

21:27 Never forget the heroic sacrifice of Safirl Kahkol to save everyone in the alliance. They found their purpose, and knew their end was assured.

[@IKMcGwee]

The most heroic dragoon ive ever seen, rip to a real one o7.

[@uberpinkwarrior]

An important thing to note: while making the raid, Yoko Taro kept pushing for extreme punishments for failure. One was that he wanted it so if 1 person died, the entire raid failed (as in, the entire dungeon ended, go requeue.) He got told that was too extreme and no one would ever beat the raid if they did it. He also wanted to push for perma-delete of characters under certain circumstances, which also got a great big "we are not doing that, under any circumstances". Yoko Taro is glorious and I want more stuff from him.

[@NakuruKouChannel]

the perma delete thing is a very Yoko Taro thing 😂😂

[@specialnewb9821]

​@Nakuru Kou its called cloud saves. Your move Emil head!

[@TarossBlackburn]

He also said he'd set fire to the servers when the raid was over.

[@gateauxq4604]

Maybe he could use the XIV engine to remake Drakengard 1&3 🤔

[@cparle87]

Another one I heard was permanent scars added to our player models for getting vuln stacks.

[@temporalwolf7054]

Someone probably mentioned it before me, but heck it I like sharing tidbits like this. So the design of 2P actually comes from Soul Calibur 6, where 2B was a guest fighter. The inverted color scheme was 2B's alternate costume, and thus the community dubbed that look 2P as a reference to how fighting games would routinely call players 1p or 2p based on what side of the cabinet they're from. I always liked how Yoko Taro and Square took that bit of community naming from a completely different genre and made it canon.

[@serisothikos]

"oh NO" is how we reacted to basically all the mechanics on day 1. Yoko Taro had it in for us.

[@trifontrifonov4297]

A quick non-spoilery overview of the Nier setting: Humanity has been attacked by alien robots. They quickly create an army of sexy androids to fight the invasion (STRONGLY implied to be converted sex robots) and go into hidding. You play as 2B a soldier in the android army and you start by fighting some robots. And from there it goes places. This crossover is canon to Nier same as the live action play, the audio drama and the mobile game. Yoko Taro, the creator of the series is a madman who does not care about your preconceptions of how a story is told.

[@thebrave9971]

Garrett absolutely losing it over "The Beard Stays on" is just great

[@TarossBlackburn]

Kyle murdered him...

[@TarossBlackburn]

A few fun little easter eggs. The equipment is Yorha type 51 armor. The raid came out in patch 5.1. The last bit with 9S falling off and we seeing his eyes is important if you recall NiER. Specifially about what colour they are NOT. Also; Hobbes, Engels, Marx. All philosophers. And yeah. Hobbes was a clear GLaDOS reference. It even gets upset at you when it suspects you are cheating the tests.

[@cparle87]

5:05 The neck muscles. This entire questline is a lampshade on top of a fourth wall break mixed with a parody. And I love it. 5:43 Yes, this is one of those "but thou must" moments. 5:53 "What an aware quest we're on." =-) 9:00 I think Garrett is dying. Be careful, Kyle, or you might end up with an undesired solo career. 11:25 Aaaand more uncomfortable self awareness. 13:20 "This is some Nier-ass looking Nier." - Garret 2023. Another excellent quote, following in the footsteps of "this is a video ass video game." 17:35 "What the Tony Hawk is happening?" I feel my age now, thank you. 20:15 Yeah, keeping your camera turned to the rear is a good idea on this fight. 21:10 "This is chaos!" No, this is Yoko Taro. 24:22 Good reflexes. In a raid like be prepared for everything to try to kill you. 26:30 Marx Smash is 2 possible attacks with the same name. If he raises his hands high up his wrecks the back half then drags forward along the sides. If he holds his hands in front of him he claps the front half then grinds through the middle. 29:35 It feels done, but no. Alliance raids always have 4 bosses. 31:20 "I'm gonna assume the center's safe." Yoko Taro says no. 32:30 Run, Garret, run! 38:40 One of my favorite dialogue options in the entire game.

[@madslayer2]

I'll always have the memory of my static's Warrior trying to get as many vuln stacks as possible in this raid. Our white mage was not a fan

[@ZephWraen]

I feel like this is a staple of every WAR/WHM combo, lmao 😂

[@ExileTwilight]

"More, give me moooore! Oooh Vuln Stacks!"

[@joshuayung5158]

Puppets bunker hallway with 16 vuln stacks in shadowbringers.

[@seekittycat]

/screaming in healer main

[@ericbright1742]

9:19 I remember this bit in the stream. "The beard stays on," just *sent me.* 😂

[@markup6394]

21:14 --- "This is chaos!" - What do you think this looked like at release XD XD XD

[@TheJanstyler]

A quick thing I noticed during this raid about your Tanking (maybe you already fixed that by now, but just in case). You need to move far less. And especially less towards your party. You, as a tank, can easily eat most normal aoe's with mitigation. And even without mitigation, its still better that you need to get healed a few times, than the boss cleaving your party and everyone needing a ton of heals or dying. On top of that, you moving to much and even slightly turning the boss, could cause people to not hit their positionals. In general, just stand still unless the aoe looks somewhat special or you can move out of it with very minimal movement. Of course, at some point you can pretty much determine without thinking if moving causes problems. Maybe you even are at that already since its been almost 4 months.

[@ZianaSue]

I did Copied Factory, and I don't remember any of this happening. ...but I did die a lot, so maybe all this happened during my dead moments.

[@jaesaces]

I love how the add phase in the 9S fight is literally him playing the hacking minigame

[@NakuruKouChannel]

the Nier raids were my favorite 24-man series (before the Endwalker one took over lol). it had some seriously good glams too and i'm so happy you guys are finally here!!!

[@ExileTwilight]

the EW so far has been great, and a whole lot less confusing on first attempt xD but I still feel I like the Nier raids more as a whole, even if the story is mostly nonsense and unrelated :p

[@chrisdiekrasse4420]

I like how you not only play the game for the sake of the game, but also value the art so much. The art of graphics, the art of music, the art of combat design and certainly much more. I love this, thank you for everything you do.

[@Orchestructive]

Just a heads up about "threading" AOEs. Your hitbox in this game is literally a single pixel directly under the center of your character model. If there's non-orange, you can avoid damage :D

[@ramz12345]

Garrett collecting vuln stacks be like “Ooh shiny” 😂😂😂 You guys did a great job! This raid’s visuals, mechanics, music and story is one of the best in game!! Enjoy the rest of the raids😊

[@TheJanstyler]

This is, and probably always will be, my favourite raid in the game. The style, the mechanics (though pretty easy still fun) and especially the music. I love it so damn much.

[@hkoizumi3134]

I remember when we were doing this for the first time, we were hearing from WoW community their woes with BFA and shadowlands. I think this was the time frame when meme about FF14 free trial was spreading.

[@Spectacular_Insanity]

When this fight released, I played it blind... on my Black Mage. That... was a mistake.

[@specialnewb9821]

I hope we get some story analysis from you guys for this raid after you guys finish Nier. Also "Hey Nierbots, time to show you what a human can do!" - Weight of the World FF14 version starts playing

[@burtwonk]

The tomestone event is what convinced me to finally play Nier Automata. Awesome game, and awesome raid.

[@LMMotoss]

The Eorzea version of Weight of the World is perfect - just like in Automata, it is in a language that makes sense for the setting

[@DKTaif]

While I wasn't a fan of this raid tier overall I can't deny that the music and aesthetic of some of the fights were incredible. Ended up going back and pushing through Nier to (almost) completion because of it. Weight of the World in particular SLAPS so damned hard :)

[@Adu767]

Vuln Stack Georg over here with his 8 stacks and still alive lol

[@katarh]

I get motion sick in certain trials - Leviathan and Sophia are two of the worst ones. Sophia is the current Faux Hollows trial. I have to pop a benedryl before I go in....

[@sadmiqoxiv]

Watching nier on minilvl reminds me of how big of a step up it was in difficulty. Great raid, great glams and didnt hold your hand like 90% of the game.

[@kaly8329]

Love the content! When will you guys continue the alliance raids?

[@nahuel3433]

They are doing things in patch order and the next AR wing came out during 5.3. So they'll do it after they do the 5.3 MSQ (but before they do 5.4 MSQ)

[@rjwojo1]

Never done the Nier raids… looking forward to farming them during the Moogle tome event 😁

[@ChrisMorray]

They're slow but the glam options are worth it. All dyable, lotta nice outfits of either cloth or leather.

[@RockR277]

I read the dig site chief as the gruff foreman type, so this binxian voice you got going on is really throwing me for a loop.

[@adjwindu70]

It was just as much fun warching you guys play this as it is playing the raid myself.

[@TakeItEasy2019]

I may not be the biggest fan or Nier but I do appreciate this set of raids with how fun it can be.......granted I'm a little jaded with it right now due to the MOOGLE GRIND.

[@novacat12]

Doing these as 12 man was fun

[@Ramotttholl]

I love hate these raids.. hate the time it takes to go through them but love seeing how rough these are for the new ppl 😂😂

[@welshradz5132]

My fave alliance raid + fave music track in game! :D

[@xxDEAGORxx]

Yes!! Finally, been waiting for this

[@christopherthomas9218]

I just love watching people die in these raids. That and the music.

[@fairlyenjoyable]

The voices LOL

[@KZorander]

I can't wait for the next two raids to wreck you 😂

[@Worrok]

I will never not love Val Gaunt's Hank Hill butt.

[@lucasm4790]

I havent played the current lvl 90 24man raids but man... the Nier raids are just incredible when it comes to mechanics. They are so much fun

[@efrenenverde]

The actual raids in this series are great, but I'm unable to sit through the story on my own or watching people read it.

[@bambooex]

Nier series 2nd best A.raid series only to EW A.raids. It was so fun especially full 24man blind. Also nice 8 stickers of vul stacks. 🤣

[@siencrosse3400]

1st good morning all

[@arcaneSae]

Ah nier. What i see as the shittiest of all the alliance raids story wise

[@benjimaxbobjohn]

ivalice is right there