Nietzsche: The Herd, The Higher Man, Resentment

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What is the crab effect in psychology? According to Psychology Today, crab mentality is an analogy to the selfish and envious behaviour of someone upon other people's success. Crab mentality is also defined as someone's tendency to pull down people around them who they consider are better than them in any aspect.

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You don’t have a feeble mind. If you’re watching a video on Nietzsche’s philosophy you’re challenging yourself and expanding your knowledge, which are not traits of a weak mind.

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[@simonling1005]

I am always curious about the use of the word 'herd' when it is used as a derogatory term. I understand what is meant when referring to humans but in the animal world, it is a far more subtle form of behaviour. It is not just a blind unthinking following. It is a very intricate survival strategy that ensures maximum survival for the energy output of awareness for each member.

[@dr.graves5541]

OMG! An actual original thought! What are you doing here? You're supposed to just pay homage to how smart Nietzsche is, and not question any of his assumptions. Everything makes so much more sense when you just classify every person as a winner or loser. If Nietzsche's brain had been transfered to a slave's body, he would have remained a slave and would have been owned by someone who considered him or herself to be a high human being. Do you think he would have come to agree?

[@josephsellers5978]

Herd behavior is exhibited is species that have limited mental faculties. It is driven by fear, and you should see it as derogatory when it is used to describe human behavior.

[@smak387]

​@josephsellers5978 the more complex am animal is doesn't mean it escapes herd behavior. The herd behavior just becomes more complex. Think marketing.

[@josephsellers5978]

@smak387 That's caused by manipulation and exploitation from other humans, not nature. If anything it's a form of hypnosis.

[@josephsellers5978]

@smak387 The behavior humans have always exhibited through all times is tribal, not herd.

[@rundemcheeks1639]

exellent quote to end the video

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[@pimpomism]

Very pertinent, thank you very much for sharing.

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[@Self-kn4ez]

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[@MidKnightblue0013]

4:36 I don't think all of these values are as diametrically opposed as Nietzsche would have us believe. A powerful man can be humble, and should be if he is truly strong for he has nothing to prove. Fairness is not something the higher man should be against, if he is a truly higher man, he should be able to win on a level playing field.There should be equality of opportunity, but this does not mean (or assure) equality of outcome. I agree that the values of the higher man are good, but so are most of the values of the so called lower man except weakness, but that would depend on what one means by weakness.

[@consciousphilosophy-ericva5564]

MidKnightblue0013 Equality of opportunity is just as unrealistic as equality of outcome. We are all equal in one fundamental way: rights. We don’t wish to be treated as property or things. Aside from that, there is no actual equality in the realistic sense that you seem to be conveying. Nietzsche would not tell a man not to be kind to others; it is more so that if the onus is placed so strongly on slave morality, then man begins to lose himself-his greatness is suppressed.

[@MidKnightblue0013]

@@consciousphilosophy-ericva5564 Yea, when I say Equality of opportunity I am mostly talking about rights. Everyone should have the right to show their talent or competence, to have the opportunity to be in the game. Equality of outcome is not realistic because people have different levels of innate ability. Even if it is not realistic to have total equality of opportunity, Is it not a worthy goal for society to aim for?

[@smak387]

Neitzsche would say weak men need to convince society that powerful men need be humble because this protects weak men. You see weak men are doing what they are supposed to do by celebrating the traits that the powerful men don't have. Same with the motto "true beauty is inside". Ugly people have to expend energy to perpetuate that motion in society in order to compete.

[@bassmit9753]

Too much prager u and juden peterstein for you old mate

[@MidKnightblue0013]

3:06 if the so called higher man hurts others incidentally, but is too thick headed to be aware of it, and doesn't have the conscience to rectify it, how is he any better than someone who wills harm to others?

[@consciousphilosophy-ericva5564]

MidKnightblue0013 The higher man, according to Nietzsche, is to be robust and independent. If he or she hurts others, they don’t do so on purpose; their own creativity and uniqueness is what they are aware of. Why should one have to rectify their greatness?

[@MidKnightblue0013]

@@consciousphilosophy-ericva5564 Thanks for your reply. Nothing wrong with being robust and independent, no need to rectify greatness in and of itself, but this seems to imply a sort of myopic focus on the self. Shouldn't a higher man be obligated to consider the domino effect his actions might have if they negatively effect others? does the higher man owe nothing to the wider world of which he is a part?

[@williamaxtell3613]

@@MidKnightblue0013 I'm no expert, but I'm getting the sense this is exactly the point - no, he doesn't. Achilles does not care for those he hurts as he pursues his greatness as a warrior. And yet...for all this greatness, down in the underworld, Achilles tells Odysseus he would rather be a poor farmer living than the dead hero he is. Honestly, I'm still grappling with Nietzsche's thoughts, which seem both profound and idiotic by turns.

[@MidKnightblue0013]

@@williamaxtell3613 Yes, I enjoy Nietzsche, and he is no doubt highly intelligent, but I find myself disagreeing with him a lot, especially his overall moral outlook. Still, I read him because we can learn from people with different morals and by having our morals challenged.

[@williamaxtell3613]

@@MidKnightblue0013 I absolutely agree with that, it's very healthy and instructive to see the world from different viewpoints.

[@christianlorenz843]

I like it! Thanks!

[@jackdugan5566]

I mean how hard is it to kill the higher man? then u become the higher man the what? someone kills you?

[@the_allucinator]

Why do the "slaves" aforementioned remind me of communists and socialists?

[@grisflyt]

I dunno. Slave was Nietzsche's diagnosis for humanity.

[@rundemcheeks1639]

it reminds me of blm

[@jackdugan5566]

what did nietzche do himself that was superior though was he strong or 8nvent anything besides these theories like did he do anything meaningful. I guess his writings

[@jonathononeill3805]

Just wrote some of the best philosophical observations every written ....

[@DjPjX]

what does the last quote mean? what were nietzsches views on communism?

[@rundemcheeks1639]

he was against ALL political ideologies

[@spanishjohn420]

we are in the era of the man child

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Suggest you not copy literally the same production style as academy of ideas. Love that you’re spreading nietzsche’s ideas, though!

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John Goldsworthy My videos are novel; in that, I enjoy talking over pictures and paintings. I have no relation to them, thanks though, appreciate your interest in my videos!

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Conscious Philosophy just a suggestion take it or leave it. Your choice. You’ll get a lot more feedback like mine if you keep going this route

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John Goldsworthy The feedback I’ve been receiving is quite good. I appreciate your advice, but in all of my videos I discuss topics with photos, quotes, and paintings, it is just how I convey my message. So when you say “literally copy” I don’t see how that is remotely the case. Many KZbin channels talk over photos, it is just a simple way of making the video more interesting.

[@jackdugan5566]

lol rheybdo so incidentally or very purposefully?

[@zenoofcaledonia2439]

Beaurocratic, resentful, petty. These are the things i run from. I aim for independence, courage and action. I am both the last man and the higher man, but my choices dictate which way i lean at any given moment.

[@bassmit9753]

Can't be both.

[@lightworkerwayne]

Enjoy the content Nietzsche was on 2 something.LETS GET IT

[@mattwhisnant5926]

Interesting. Well done. I have not read Nietzche, but have read a lot of Dostoevsky and an immense amount of Ayn Rand and other objectivist philosophers. Nietzche and Rand have some common threads, though their adherents would likely bristle at the comparison. They both have the same flaw, based on what I heard here and in other lectures about Nietzche: They both reject the Christian doctrine of Original Sin. They both believe that man is capable- on his own- of a higher morality, a higher self, who pursues his own interests, noble interests and great goals; and the man who can do this is something of a Superman; and he will not violate the rights of others or do things that would necessarily hurt others in the doing; because the über-competent intrinsically understand that each person has the right to his own life and the therefore to the means to sustain his life; and he would therefore never violate the right of another man to his life or his means of sustaining it; plus, he never has any need to, because he is so competent that there is always a way forward, an honest way to achieve goals. I believed this for many years. If you believe this, then you have no problem with things like income inequality, because there are no barriers to advancement apart from one’s own ability. It has many other implications. However, here is what I found: This Hero-worship of which Nietzche and Rand are guilty is childish nonsense. Man is not capable of what Rand called “Rational Egoism.” It is NOT the natural state of the intelligent, competent man. The natural state of all men in this world is the state the Bible and other religious texts depict. We are fallen creatures in a fallen world. We are capable of reason and charity but we rarely achieve it. The strong- or even just the barely stronger- are almost always more than happy to sacrifice the weak- or even just the momentarily, slightly weaker- to their own perceived interests. This is not a world that can be redeemed by the actions of “higher” men or rational egoists. This is a world that had to be redeemed by Christ. The soul of Man had to be redeemed by Christ. And man can only tame his base, fallen nature through the example and lesson of Christ. (I do not deny that other religions teach a very similar lesson, am merely speaking from my own knowledge base and my own faith). I believed for many years that people, especially intelligent, competent people, were fundamentally good. But now I know they are most certainly NOT.

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Certainly getting some academy of ideas vibes, I like what I see though

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Thanks! Academy of Ideas produces great content, I’ve seen some of their videos. As far as my videos, I like the idea of sharing paintings/pictures; I think it gives the audience a deeper sense of what is going on. Just to be clear, all of my content is completely novel, in the sense that I try to formulate my ideas differently than other channels, and dig deeper into the topic at hand.

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[@markkeogh2190]

Nietzsche take it easy man. Give yourself a break. Let the people be as they are. You stay up there in your high tower with the other great men. No really go on. You’re a great guy really just go off now and do some whittling or something.

[@jackdugan5566]

isnt the endgame of this philosophy death of everyone?,

[@consciousphilosophy-ericva5564]

No, the end game is not death for everyone. For Nietzsche, the goal of his philosophy would be to have a dramatic shift in values(i.e., revaluation of all values). Nietzsche would like to see a Dionysian affirmation of life; not a negation of life.

[@jackdugan5566]

@@consciousphilosophy-ericva5564 right but dowsnt this version of affirmation of life lead to the death of most?

[@jackdugan5566]

@@consciousphilosophy-ericva5564 in other words if everyone thought like this there would be chaos and civilization would die

[@jackdugan5566]

yeah but slavery is a matter of degrees. you would have to be the greatest man and kill everyone else to be the last man standing

[@jackdugan5566]

seems a tad psycho

[@Rob1955B]

This sounds a lot like depression ...

[@angelbast3rd133]

It's borderline pathetic tbh. I'm astonished people praise this nonsense.

[@ConanDuke]

Methinks the gentleman doth protest too much.

[@dr.graves5541]

Nietzsche has some good insight to a lot of different topics, but this is egotistical garbage. Everyone here agreeing about how enlightened Nietzsche is, thinks they are included in that illustrious little boys club of higher men. It is just as he dances around the truth, there is the owner class that cannot exist without thinking that everyone below him exists just for his benefit, and those who work to make his life better. Nietzsche's disdain for the struggling class is so palpable, even as he pretends that he wants them all to rise up and control their own lives. He blames them for having aggression toward the very people who placed the chains around their necks, and admiration for those who do so without the slightest bit of compassion. His viewpoints on a growing amount of topics are becoming outdated.

[@xayano590]

Indeed, reminds me of the caste system in india. This comment section is just circlejerk.

[@thug588]

u mad dummy?

[@wilecatrexy]

If the higher man was truly higher, he would eaze the suffering of others. To emancipate hearts and minds of fellow human beings.

[@danieljohnson4665]

You can’t solve people’s problems they have to find a away to help themselfs

[@rundemcheeks1639]

The higher man realizes suffering is sacred, and its the only thing that bestows value upon the world

[@t4404]

you understand nothing

[@markkeogh2190]

There is no higher man. Just pompous bluster.

[@bassmit9753]

but you deserve to suffer

[@gyanprakashraj4062]

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[@werren894]

this is liberalism not nihilism

[@icebox_Intruder]

If this isn't purely and truly defining leftism, nothing does.

[@saxonisrael8398]

What is interesting is that in Nietzsche's day and earlier, Christianity was the norm. Imagine the same kind of personalities as sjw leftists, but raised in Christianity. They would give Christianity a bad reputation. Combine that with pitiful and lukewarm preachers of the gospel, and you are turning off certain individuals prone to independent thinking, of the faith. There is a rise in people who seek truth and hate the left, yet despise Christianity because they are disillusioned with horrible teaching, and weak believers. They think Christianity means to be a passive follower; but we are called to be zealous fighters, establishing the Kingdom of righteousness and peace.

[@smak387]

​@@saxonisrael8398I believe Jesus whipped people out of the Temple and turned over tables. That doesn't get preched anymore.

[@Avalonanon]

To believe the politics is slavery, if you dont listen and take control of what you actually can in your life you become powerful and politics seems less important until you have the power ( build skills and knowledge be an autodidact) go opposite the herd. You saying leftist creates the other creates the herd, imo

[@chriswilliamss4410]

May I suggest you keep feelings (leftist comment) to yourself due to the clear lack of understanding. Thanks

[@mstelios4259]

No one chooses slavery for himself, he has to be put there by force!

[@davedismantled]

People vote for theirs and others slavery every 4 years. It's called government - which uses a system of coercion and violence to enforce that slavery.

[@thoughtfulpilgrim1521]

Excellent presentation. Seems to me that Nietzsche was thoroughly depraved and possibly damned. His criticism of Judeo-Christian morals betrays a misunderstanding of Judeo-Christian morals. Nietzsche's higher/strong man would also be rightly damned for not being his "brother's keeper", for not looking after the orphan or widow in their times of need (amongst other things).

[@angelbast3rd133]

Wow, nonsense 😂 rich and poor you mean.

[@jalenprice23]

He just unintentionally predicted and spit on the feminist movement of today

[@pressure609]

I AM THE LAST SLAVE THEREFORE I AM