Nigel Farage told drill music is 'an expression of freedom of speech'

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[@Chill1TV]

Fumez is capping tho. He know this stuff is real life.

[@reecechadwick8504]

Yeah but he has to cap on national TV. Gotta be careful how you say things

[@krishnan-resurrection714]

yeah ..im sure he is really tough 😆

[@lz_0123]

@@krishnan-resurrection714 if he keeps speaking about other artists on live TV and personal information fumez is getting or already knows? He will then dig himself into deeper hole with the artists. You would understand if you grew up listening to this type of music and seeing how it relates to some of the people around you! Take notes✌🏽

[@krishnan-resurrection714]

@@lz_0123 I did mate ...i grew up in one of the roughest shitholes and we wanted to do 'rap' and create new sound ..all we got was harassed and closed down by police ....- blacks are cossetted and given special rights .....-that is the truth of the matter !

[@yuckzpurrpp6747]

@@krishnan-resurrection714 we have way less rights than the rest of you

[@jackparratt94]

Someone needs to clip part of Nigel Farage’s audio and use it as an intro for a drill song 😂

[@colinstewart1432]

Make it happen people 🤜💥🤛

[@heat9cold]

Ong😂😂😂

[@patricktate4782]

It will be in the next plugged in

[@moneytttt1140]

Someone already has used his voice in a grime track the voice they used is when he said to the eu president (WHO ARR YOU) lol

[@patricktate4782]

@@moneytttt1140 what track is that mate I don’t think I heard it

[@CM-ji3nm]

The way fumez dodged the question every time

[@creative_by_nature]

he will lose clients

[@d1brentfordfan373]

Hes a wetty they chose him on purpose. Any acc gm wouldve held it 2gether here, and I'm not talkin abt the fake mfs I'm talkin abt the man who will 1v1 fence sum1 2 the death (eg: burner, them typa man who are acc on dat)

[@leobasi4289]

I like how farage was respectful the whole time which is alot better then most people when they address people like fumez

[@ORGPPL1]

Those are the ones you need to be careful of

[@youngonep9889]

He was probably scared 😅

[@kudim3185]

@@youngonep9889 Scared? you couldn't say boo to a goose, that's why you express your sorrow with your 'art'

[@krishnan-resurrection714]

farage isnt scared of punks and Liars .......

[@GodmadeTrends]

Farage is a decent guy if you look past the negative media propaganda that’s usually put against him

[@yousefkhan2825]

CB, Suspect, Broadday Assasin, workrate and Abzsav are all upstanding members of society who have contributed a lot to london as a whole…Thank you guys so much 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

[@G44984]

LOOL

[@maxkiely5812]

I was about to comment the exact same thing😂😂😂 them man are straight drillas

[@yousefkhan2825]

@@maxkiely5812 from an improvement in the local Infrastructure…Improving local estates, these lot all potential candidates for Mayor of london….Nigel Farage take note please

[@maxkiely5812]

@@yousefkhan2825 they are the upmost best civilians in London, I’d let them care for my grandparents

[@yousefkhan2825]

@@maxkiely5812 feel like we need to go on nigels page and finish the lyrics 😂

[@louisparker-mills4144]

How can fumez say it keeps them away from that life when he’s got a constant flow of ACTIVE gang members walking in and out his studio

[@karnage2948]

😂😂😂

[@alistermusa3311]

You literally made his point less time on the streets

[@artaihnandez4980]

Active gang, tpl, ofb, 3x3, malistrip it goes on fumez acting like these man leave the studio and go play fifa or something 😂😂

[@Gianno_]

@@alistermusa3311 ‘less time on streets’ like a gang member after dissing all his opps dead relatives and shit on a plugged in is going to be doing less time on streets 🤦🏽‍♂️ wake up man

[@kenricnarbrough8191]

So this mans logic is that singing about Sexual humiliation and Dealing drugs keeps you so busy that you cant go out and do it? Is that not missing the point

[@thomascohen1567]

Fumez trying to hold it together when he quotes the lyrics killed me🤣🤣

[@wxvy3177]

I listen to a lot of drill. U.K. , US and French drill too lol. mainly for the energy because it’s full of energy, but it has no influence on me whatsoever because my mind is mature enough to still go about my daily life and leave the music at exactly what it is.. music. why is it these days we are required to censor everything? I have been listening to rap in general for coming up to 20 years now I’ve heard all sorts of wild lyrics and I have a clean criminal record.

[@sweetbutshowa]

Let’s take marijuana for example. Marijuana has negative effects on certain people, whilst with other people, it may have a positive effect. It depends on the individual who’s consuming the plant. It’s like the same with music, some music may have an effect on someone whereby they’ll feel tempted to pick a knife and stab someone, whereas someone can control their emotion and not pick up a knife and stab someone

[@user-uj6lc2ql2p]

Your mind is mature, is everyone the same? The 13 year olds who love this

[@wxvy3177]

@@user-uj6lc2ql2p I was listening to stuff like this as young as 9 years old, my mind was still mature enough back then because it’s not a hard concept to grasp funnily enough. So are most people’s who listen to this stuff. You hear a news story about a kid who stabbed someone and start blaming music and not the fact that maybe these kids are psychologically unstable from unstable households and are looking for any minor reason for conflict. Violence has always existed, violence will always exist. Take away drill and it’ll be something else to point fingers at

[@PizzaStormA]

@@user-uj6lc2ql2p I'm pretty sure most year 8s aren't stabbing people

[@btmorley833]

As an adult (I’m assuming you’re at least over 30 considering you’ve been listening to rap for 20 years), I would expect nothing less than using your brain to make your own judgements and assessments about what you’re listening to. But the fact is, a large portion of drill listeners are kids and teens who do not have these life skills of making mature, sensible judgements. They are very easily influenced by what they see, hear and experience around them, and get very easily caught up in whatever is “cool” or “trendy” at the time, regardless of whether it’s ethical. That’s why films have age ratings and why a 12 year old can’t go to see an 18+ film at the cinema.

[@Daniela-xj4fj]

You seriously cannot defend them lyrics🤣 Nigel won this interview

[@Armed-Forever]

you can, there’s a war and that war is more justified than the iraq war, so if cb is a bad man so is every british solider

[@Gianno_]

@@Armed-Forever gangs fighting over postcodes is justified? 😂 go bed bro

[@I3M8]

@@Gianno_ u people are so narrow minded they are not fighting over postcodes they are fighting over drug territory smh

[@Gianno_]

@@I3M8 same thing bro, sorry didn’t know fighting over drug territories was a noble justified cause

[@I3M8]

@@Gianno_ I know it’s not right but stuff like that happens all over the world, and uk drill songs keep them away from the streets potential stopping a death or stabbing

[@ViralVidz21]

Well of course Fumez is just protecting the genre and therefore his pocket, but I’m pretty sure he best knows how much the lifestyle is glamourised in songs and how many young people get negatively influenced by drill. Talking about it as an escape and whatnot isn’t a big argument either. The number of people able to leave a life a crime behind them after blowing from drill music is very far from even 1000. But the amount of people negatively influenced by it is much greater and many lives have been permanently lost in the process.

[@qazari]

Bare school shooters learn from cod are we gonna ban cod as well?

[@tax-5633]

You can literally say this about every aspect of fictional entertainment influencing people to do bad. People just want to cancel the drill scene. Like it didn’t take a lot of artist off the crime life

[@Mxrshmallow]

@@tax-5633 Nonsense argument. Movies/TV don’t directly antagonise other human beings by mocking their dead friends who have been murdered does it? I listen to drill on a daily & I’m a fan of the genre but let’s be realistic it regularly incites violence

[@user-uj6lc2ql2p]

@@tax-5633 Drill is not fictional. In fact artists are often condemned for not ‘living what they rap’. It quite the opposite, very real.

[@bs79uhcon]

Would you say the same on hip hop - just look how gangster rap/ the hip hop being produced at that era to how it moved to golden era hip hop to now. Similar to drill

[@Explorewithteee]

“Expression of freedom of speech” more like a self snitching confession of a crime”

[@z.kramer6027]

ay but why would the police want people to stop confessing hahahaha that makes no sense

[@krishnan-resurrection714]

They should be deported! . . . ..end of ..... !

[@yuckzpurrpp6747]

@@krishnan-resurrection714 nigga what

[@krishnan-resurrection714]

@@slidejamma 1 more ...deport them ...!!!!

[@FortisConscius]

He's right, it's freedom of speech. Orwell had something to say about it - the freedom to say what others don't want you to say. Anyone who ACTS on such messages does so at their own peril. If anyone is unable to separate words or pictures (expression) from reality will find any stimulation justification to ACT in a criminal way. As this man says - video games, TV, films. Books have been demonised. Some radio plays were controversial. The [latest thing] is always scary to pearl-clutching busybodies who imagine that society will crumble due to 'bad influence' but there has always been and always will be people who act with or without provocation or inspiration. The cause isn't entertainment otherwise what was the inspiration for crime and violence prior to any of these mediums?

[@KzaMovies]

Thats all good and well from Adult perspective and im sure Orwell was a grown man with intellect who could differentiate. These kids makin drill music and actually on road drilling are as young as 14/15

[@FortisConscius]

@@KzaMovies Begging the question "where are the parents?" and I think we then discover the real problem! If they are not given the discipline to be disciplined then that would be the root of the evil.

[@KzaMovies]

@@FortisConscius i couldnt agree more. But at the same time... i also believe the saying "it takes a community to raise a good person" Some parents are REALLY struggling out here. Mental health. Drugs. Alcohol. Those without issues... some are working 2 maybe 3 jobs to keep a roof and the family fed...

[@KzaMovies]

@the left are liers extremists fascists terrorists Yeah totally agree. Could go lot deeper as so many elements to the destruction of our society as you say. Positive culture has been broken. I just couldnt be bothered to go too deep so generalised a bit

[@Javfy4]

I'm from a small town where the knife crime is increasing massively, 3 stabbing in the space of a few hours, in broad day light, on a Monday. Drill music and the culture almost definite influences this. Don't get me wrong, I listen to drill often and don't get influenced, but younger and more easily influenced people might. Kids running around with massive knifes stabbing each other and selling drugs for fun

[@bdom5796]

This is the most random link up I’ve ever seen

[@hithere3035]

Thought that myself, when i see the thumbnail Farage and Fumez together i was like no that is click bait for sure lol Fair play to Fumez for going on there though.

[@krishnan-resurrection714]

I thought it was nelson mandela 😆

[@sadoldgit313]

When you haven’t got the talent to be an entertainers just go lower and justify it as “freedom of speech”!

[@finn1559]

you really are a sad old git

[@krishnan-resurrection714]

the guy would actually have made a good 'minstrel if he had a slightly higher IQ .....😆

[@aiguys12]

As a person who has been a drill fan since 015 and seen the effect it has had on the scene it does insight violence but it’s not the main Cause

[@Gianno_]

Drill track ‘Latrell got splashed in his head 22 times I hope he rests in piss’ Drill fans: “He’s just expressing himself 😔😔”

[@rsvpj1768]

🤣🤣🤣

[@lz_0123]

Deep😶

[@abcde7429]

Song name?

[@kenricnarbrough8191]

its clearly a metaphor for defeating your own self-doubt and growing as a person.

[@Leo-pz5ge]

"Teewiz got splashed and died, and I don't feel sorry for his mum"

[@slinkiegirl2001]

i am a black mom and i hate this type of music rap, ghetto rubbish it is highly influential in how these young men act, it is negative music, i would not let my son listen to it when he is older, degenerate nonsense

[@battlingphoenix3847]

You talk like a white mom

[@MrJonnyl123]

If I went around talking about stabbing people I’d probably get arrested 🤣

[@lz9278]

Good for you

[@Rez2003]

You ever listened to heavy metal? Talking about killing people, slitting throats, sacrificing shit for the devil, but whys that excused? The violence in drill music is mild compared to heavy metal songs. Drill talks about selling drugs, Rock talks about taking drugs but that's ignored aswell

[@rroy9985]

@@Rez2003 metal was ignored since it was harder to understand a word they were singing about over 5 trillion decibels of hard drum and rock guitar 😂😂

[@si-ht9bj]

no shit

[@justinbieberlake5635]

@@Rez2003 because they share the same god

[@kurgan-er2ez]

The lad is brain dead 🤣

[@devonsteve2347]

Freedom of speech my a*** its bordering on incitement. ‘Ya get wot i mean!:)

[@MCP284]

You wouldn’t say this about trumps tweets would you

[@rl-hj9ve]

@@MCP284 Never… its a one way street for the simple minded

[@devonsteve2347]

@@MCP284 probably not, after all he doesnt go on about stabbing & shooting people with the occasional derogatory phrase about women.

[@MCP284]

@@devonsteve2347 no but he told his supporters to try and take over the capitol which is literally inciting violence. You definitely have prejudices since the white man is allowed freedom of speech but not when the black man wants it

[@devonsteve2347]

@@MCP284 thats your racism not mine, i watched all of the trump speech, he didnt tell them to take it over & or enter, he told them to go up to the hill to let them know their feelings. I just dont like all this swearing, bad mouthing and put downs (especially the ones that degrade women) no matter who is saying it. The chap being interviewed by Nigel just happened to be black. Oh! I also dislike this mispronunciation of words e.g. saying free instead of three, its what i call lazy speaking.

[@GUNMO1]

I’m hoping for the “Nigel farage plugged in with fumez”

[@securityrobot]

He’s advocating replacing one stereotype for another. Fumez the Engineer?, is there an Errol the Architect?

[@grumpysprout3505]

and don't forget jabba the hut builder😊

[@securityrobot]

😂

[@karim-ls5nj]

sound engineer aka producer. he makes drill beats

[@nicomus1c]

@@karim-ls5nj no sound engineer aka sound engineer, he mixes drill songs. Engineers are people who record peoples vocals onto beats and then both mix the vocals and the beats to make sure the mix is clean, frequencies aren’t clashing and there are cuts, effects and drops to make the song interesting amongst other things. An engineer and a producer are two very different things

[@johnmarsh2078]

Reminds me of The Last Boy Scout. Bad guy .... Just once I'd like to hear you scream in agony". Bruce Willis .... "Just play some rap music!".

[@equinox95]

The guy doesn't care about community when he's wearing £7000 LV jackets and living the life of the misery of his own community.

[@gary8306]

And we've just rewarded them with a statue🤔

[@johnwilliams2479]

Lol you couldn't make this shit up if ya tried

[@yusufhassan6527]

He held in that laugh lmaooooo

[@edmundtrebus4084]

My favorite drill rapper is probably DeWalt.

[@krishnan-resurrection714]

i like 'Black n Decker' ....whoops !

[@securityrobot]

The Black and Desmond Deckers.

[@rroy9985]

Favourite drill rapper is Boris Johnson straight from the deep trenches of Peckham 🔥🔥

[@fabiennemitchell2371]

Music is powerful because it is emotive, psychological, cultural, aspirational and therefore influential. Dirty, nasty, aggressive, and even murderous lyrics matter.

[@EDL_433]

Unless they mock the death of a child - tables turn 2.0

[@krishnan-resurrection714]

..im surprised they havent made a whole album based on 'the james bulger' murder .....-Dope-ass Beats !!!!

[@christ34fj]

@@krishnan-resurrection714 It;s gonna get there soon it can only get worse

[@KM-op6gj]

Is he having a laugh? Drill music is literally boasting about what they do to the “opps” people used to say rap and hip hop was bad but imo drill is on a different level

[@krishnan-resurrection714]

..and 'opps' is just code for white natives .....

[@-Whiz-]

If he says “no more violent lyrics should exist” then no one will go to him to record because they’d think he doesn’t like the violent lyrics

[@Goodywloss2010]

If they’d looked CB up whose lyrics they quoted…. Lol serving 23 year term for pointing gun at cops in chase and conspiracy to commit Serious harm

[@bumboklaatry5828]

he talks about the life he's forced to live so i cant blame him

[@Goodywloss2010]

@@bumboklaatry5828 I like CBS music but you can’t say “you can’t blame him” he made the decisions and Did those actions himself not everyone who grew up where he did have been jailed etc. Yes you can say he grew up with not many choices but he still made the choices he did

[@Goodywloss2010]

@@bumboklaatry5828 btw 23 years was far too long

[@bumboklaatry5828]

@@Goodywloss2010 yh

[@wavell14]

Fumez the engineer x Nigel Farage is not a combination I expected

[@DjMossy]

If he spat rhymes and bars of a positive nature. Eg.. peace, love and unity. The world would be a much better place. Innit like. Unfortunately the youth don’t think love and harmony is cool. But sticking a knife in a fellow brother is? Music is a very powerful tool. It’s time these artists use it in a more positive manner

[@kurtisisagaylord2]

Because these kids dont live in a fantasy world of love unity and rainbows. They live in a world of poverty, where there friends and family members are murdered over petty insults, drug money and gang affiliations. It's a rat race and it's dog-eats-dog on the streets, not "peace love and unity" Newsflash its not the 60s anymore, this is 2022 and the streets of london are a violent and harsh place, and the people living there are gonna make violent and harsh music, what a surprise. If someone murdered your brother in cold blood, laughed about it on social media, and became rich and famous by making fun of your dead brother in their songs, are you telling me your response would simply be "peace, love and unity"? Give me a break. Save the lectures for your suburban neighbours instead of pretending like you have a single clue what this life is about or why people on the streets do what they do.

[@lz9278]

Would you say the same about rock music they have violent lyrics in them sometimes do people criticise it for murders no I don’t think so. So please shut up about “if the lyrics were of good nature”

[@indy6208]

It just wouldn’t be hard tho would it 😭😭😭

[@gsg9205]

😴😴😴😴

[@z.kramer6027]

you want people who live w a family of 7 in a council house, no education and no future to sing about pink clouds and roses? how detached from everyday life are you man

[@MB-fb3ly]

Fumez would of been the last person I’d pick to defend drill music not the brightest is he. The defence that it’s not real is absolute bullshit all these rappers claim it’s real themselves and have been and doing big jail for madness 😂

[@dgh6673]

Facts

[@krishnan-resurrection714]

teah ...Thick as shit ......

[@rashidmd573]

Partially right though, not all drill rappers live what they speak

[@VR46314]

I’m 23 but drill music is for year 7s who wanna act tough they get a north face coat for Christmas for being a very good boy at school.

[@yungbeatz8261]

drill music is for all ages, pete and bas are 70 year old granddads who have worked with fumez the engineer

[@VR46314]

@@yungbeatz8261 Pete and baz 💀

[@yungbeatz8261]

@@VR46314 peter and basil as you tories would say, they used to hate rap music but one day they let their grandkids play it and they loved it, they are now selling out shows in the uk

[@VR46314]

@@yungbeatz8261 a Tory from Liverpool how odd

[@yungbeatz8261]

@@VR46314 yes u are

[@gfuentes8449]

solid interview! what a couple of professionals

[@richjones4956]

We Indigenous British say No to Mass Immigration.

[@VR46314]

But why ?? It’s done the french wonders 🤣

[@JackSmith-cn5qf]

Immigrants are part of this country’s success

[@HasbaIIer]

Immigrants made this country

[@davidjones-wt2qq]

@@HasbaIIer Lol you didn’t arrive until the 1960s not sure how you worked that out 😆

[@sepia2227]

The black areas of London where the violence happens, are poor. Poverty creates crime. It's not that black people are more violent, it's that in London, more black people live in poverty than white, and it's the poverty which then causes the gangs to form, not black people or their culture.

[@jimmajamma2006]

It's not reporting on the streets. The rappers are rated on their authenticity with respect to their lyrics which actively encourages them to disregard the consequences and carry out the crimes they rap about. It's not the same as GTA. These are real people talking about what they have done or are prepared to do in the first person. The separation between fact and fiction is simply not there like it is in movies or games. Fumes can say what he likes but he must know full well that what he profits from has an overall negative impact on society. This is his contribution to the world he was born into.

[@donutking4u]

Saying drill incites violence is like saying that stabbings and shootings between gangs and innocents never happened before drill.

[@generaldreedle2801]

This young chap doesn’t fill me with confidence.

[@slinkiegirl2001]

oh shut up he was born here

[@securityrobot]

He’s certainly full of something though.

[@krishnan-resurrection714]

he'd fill you with blade given half a chance ......😆

[@KzaMovies]

He is lying because his platform makes money from all the drillers and the more they talk crud...the more views it will get. Creative storytelling... what a load of bs

[@MCP284]

@@KzaMovies he literally censors everything there’s no crud in plugged ins

[@dancreavin1669]

It’s a whole genre of music about stabbing people over the right to sell each other crack . It can’t be good

[@fwh2394]

Another posh person with no clue

[@TheArsenal21]

Thats not what it is but ok

[@jayevans5174]

he said when we go into the studio you can make drill in your kitchen

[@jamesputtik1474]

Maybe if their wasn’t underfunding and a lack of opportunities in poverty then this wouldn’t happen

[@battlingphoenix3847]

Underfunding? Meaning I have to pay for others who don’t work hard enough

[@hasnaynakhtar737]

If you ask me the music and lyrics are a by product of the violence, violence isn’t the by product of music. If there was no drill the gang wars will still continue, heck before drill even started the murder rates were much higher(admittedly there are other things that may affect that such as the development of cctv but you get my point)

[@anthrobson8550]

Expersion of the shit they are living through. Maybe Farage and his ilk should show these people a way out and help rather than jailing them

[@richjones4956]

Free Speech ...Referendum on Immigration.

[@JackSmith-cn5qf]

Just so u know, this country put others in a position where they feel forced to make a living here

[@JackSmith-cn5qf]

It’s the immigrants who are happy to work crappy jobs because the British think they’re above everyone

[@JackSmith-cn5qf]

You’ll say all this rubbish but after u work ur shift you’ll go down to your local Chinese or Indian shop, but u hate immigrants

[@JesusChristisfake]

@@JackSmith-cn5qf Bangladesh, Pakistan, Iran, Eritrea, Sudan, Nigeria, Romania, Albania……… really?

[@rogersevers123]

67: Last time I saw you, I had a MACH, I should have blown your heart out of your back! Drills fans: SOOO inspirational and artistic YEPEEE!!!

[@hk.1yre]

free cb.

[@charliewhu66]

If they’re creative why do them sometimes have to brag about who they’ve chinged and blamed up. That my friend is not creative, that’s bragging and any young easily influenced youth will hear that and think it’s normal to act like that and aspire to be like that. FACTS I’ve seen and lived it so don’t anyone try tell me I’m wrong 😑

[@SnowmanSantana]

You sure lived the life havent you gang member charlie🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@donutking4u]

Shouldn't be easily influenced in the first place, If they were then it is what it is and feds would've took down Every video, but they didn't...there exist youth/people who listen to drill and aren't influenced and they're the majority of people who listen to the genre.

[@georgeruane5095]

“Erm so this is the sound of expression from the youth of today, who are currently struggling with an unjust system !! “ - G dizzle

[@georgeruane5095]

“My own words“

[@Gingercornet]

He's an "Aspiring Rap Artist". "Finkin' of doin' Meedya Studeez" Yeh get me ?

[@matoranman]

cringeworthy approximation

[@booth2710]

there was a time people aspired to go to university to find the cure for cancer

[@prodcarl-em9ss]

these rappers lyrics are a reflection of the situation they’re in because of poverty and the things they have to do to provide for their families. the music being put out is probably causing less than 5% of the cause of knife crime, there’s better things the government could do stop trying to take down songs and stop talented rappers making it out their toxic environments

[@krishnan-resurrection714]

BS ...if its so 'hard' for them here ....there is always nigeria or ghana ......

[@claytongreen4993]

In my personal opinion.. Fumes done more harm than good here. He is basically endorsing that lifestyle, you know how much of them gang bangers have passed through his studio and he knows this but the money is too good to say no... And the sad thing is as writers they are actually talented and could use that to deliver a positive message but the negativity is shielded as them telling a story.

[@leebush4053]

What about drill music that says one gang will shank another gang and then it happens. That is what the cps are talking about.

[@krishnan-resurrection714]

Liverpool boys would teach the punk a lesson .....

[@user-xx7tv7cc1y]

man really brought out CB's lyrics. thank god he didn't hear about his cuz at the family function. loool

[@patricktate4782]

Or kicking the yute out the buggy

[@Leo-pz5ge]

"We left your young boy resting in piss"

[@tinotreloar8251]

I don't think he expressed any interest in how those words might influence young or troubled minds... the consequences would just be more material 🤦🏽‍♂️😔

[@erikstivrins8398]

There free will end of the day to act on what they hear...because most people don’t get encouraged by it stop making it bad because a few is acting on it 🤦‍♂️

[@rhys1up182]

@@erikstivrins8398 exactly

[@maxem1st]

@@erikstivrins8398 well said

[@Gianno_]

@@erikstivrins8398 ‘stop making it bad’ when was gms chatting about killing opps and dissing their dead relatives not bad? It doesn’t matter if some random yutes from cornwall don’t get encouraged, for people living in the hood around poverty all day yeah it is encouraging

[@erikstivrins8398]

@@Gianno_ yet hood violence was present an worse before drill people who listen to it an act on it were on violence before an drill is whatever u make it juss cus few diss dead opps don’t mean u have to cancel culture it u can always not listen to it simple leave people’s preferences to them

[@Bing-a-ling]

It's amazing that we're still having this conversation. No one blames Tarantino for the amount of shootings there are and like Fumez says, no one is questioning violence in video games so why is it that the art form which is predominantly created by young black men is being blamed for the knife crime which already existed before they started rapping about it.... Otherwise they wouldn't be rapping about it🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Cerebalpaulsys]

Shows how out of touch you are. People have been killed purely cos of lyrics that have been used on certain songs. Lads aren't saying "I saw this" they're saying they did it and in a lot of cases they really did. Just look at the B side madness. Drills a shit form of music and needs to go

[@TwofourA]

You can’t blame drill music exclusively but not gonna lie bro some of these lil kids get obsessed by it and go down a path they don’t really wanna go down

[@Bing-a-ling]

@@TwofourA Music on its own could never influence someone to go out and begin a life of crime or commit an act of violence against another person. It's deeper than that, whether its lack of a positive male influence, poverty, lack of opportunity, peer pressure. These are the causes. The subject matter in drill is a symptom. It's too easy for media/politicians etc to blame the music because it means they can keep the finger pointed firmly at the people instead of looking in the mirror and admitting to the part they've played in creating these environments .

[@TwofourA]

@@Bing-a-ling nah I hear u bro i’m not saying music is the cause its all about personalities and certain people get obsessed w the glamourised gang life

[@Bing-a-ling]

@@TwofourA Agreed👍

[@joshantat8793]

Big up fumez for this one

[@claytongreen4993]

For what exactly?

[@klackon1]

This bloke must think we're as stupid as he is. His reply to the Rambo knife in the chest was just to smirk. I perceived from this that he has either guilty knowledge of such an act, or knows someone who carried out such an attack. That is my perception. He should have been asked, "if it's not real life, how come there are hundreds of black on black knife attacks every year?"

[@HasbaIIer]

He's the guy who produced the song 😂😂😂

[@HasbaIIer]

And what's this got to do with black on black crimes there're so many other races who do stabbings

[@DreBuckss]

@@HasbaIIer m1 produced the song

[@HasbaIIer]

@@DreBuckss ahh I must've got confused with his plugged in

[@JackSmith-cn5qf]

Because of what’s happened in the past black ppl are put at a disadvantage, some are ambitious and some have the mindset where they think if they can’t make it in sport they will have to result in illegal activity to make mkney

[@johnmarsh2078]

I listened to some drill music just to know what we are talking about. Extreme aural porn is what. Glamourising gangster culture is what it does. Lots of times the prosecution have used photographs on mobile phones and even social media! of defendants posing in balaclavas with guns and knives etc as bad character evidence. Now perhaps they will be able to use your CD/"Music" download collection. Not a moment too soon by the sound of it.

[@sandman8993]

WE NEED SOME NEW HEAVY METAL BANDS in the uk! Come on. 🤘

[@krishnan-resurrection714]

..so its poodle-perms vs wire-wool heads 😆

[@JimMoorby]

The problem is these drill ''musicians'' do act out this stuff in real life. There are super violent films but theyre fictional. Im in to heavy metal and the lyrics can be VERY dark but its more singing about a subject etc with no intention to harm anybody. And drill isnt music

[@yungbeatz8261]

i’m a drill producer and i take offence to this, some of the lyrics used in drill music can be very sweet and romantic, listen to glad u came by lilz or coming for you by switchotr

[@LFCzak6]

@@yungbeatz8261 nah don’t listen to lilz

[@yungbeatz8261]

@@LFCzak6 i don’t he’s shit 🤣🤣

[@HasbaIIer]

@@LFCzak6 😂

[@tjaz1915]

And screaming bout killing urself is music

[@gabzinho1041]

man pulled up in joggers and a psg top😭

[@backseatoftherollstruck]

Fumez shoulda simply said that a lot of these guys are products of their environments and they are simply rapping about the things that they experienced and saw while growing up, and by doing this they make money to make it out of the hood. However the audience reacts, whether they are influenced or not, is not their fault still

[@christiano8088]

When they're in the studio recording they're not on the street doing crime.....encourages people to go put knives in chests 🙄💀

[@jenniferbate9682]

Weird!

[@ali.50z]

Shush Christian

[@lz9278]

How are they encouraging 😂😂😂 they’re not saying “Go out there and stab someone” or are they Christian correct me?

[@g.m5431]

The same way watching Die Hard encourages people to commit mass murder 🌚

[@qazari]

People were putting knives in chest way before drill

[@azgardian32odinson]

The question Nigel should have asked is.. can these artists not be creative and non violent inciting at the same time?

[@edchavez4710]

Lyrics are just about what people go through in their lives so maybe they should try and better communities and prevent violence from occurring

[@ericrawson2909]

Ok, what is the difference between the violence in drill music and the TV shows that show people pointing guns at people and shooting each other. I don't care whether its cops or baddies shooting people up, I find it offensive that it is entertainment for millions of people. I do not want to see it so I don't watch it. Why is one demonised but not the other. By the way I have never listened to drill music. I have been wondered all my life why such violence goes without attracting any criticism.

[@manemane1505]

Because films are fiction drill isn't

[@click24s]

@@manemane1505 some films are based off real life situations/secenarios or influenced by them & drill is just music

[@krishnan-resurrection714]

actually fumez is mates with simon cowell .....(i say mates ...they had a one night stand last year ) 😆

[@gtduck5618]

I actually agree with Nigel on this one. To say that it's a fantasy and comparing it to action movies is blatant dishonesty. Drill artists are actually referring to real opps, therefore those people who are being dissed in drill songs can decide to retaliate, the people in 'action movies' can't. Also, a huge percentage of drill artists end up being arrested and charged for the things they rap about, the same can't be said for most actors. I also like drill music, but I'd also prefer to live in a city that doesn't have kids constantly listening to violent glorification of real concurrent crimes.

[@rushdown24]

There's been loads of killings over the years with drill artists involved

[@yungbeatz8261]

rip bis, pop smoke

[@GUNMO1]

I mean fumez isn’t really the people who rap and he is just a producer and supervisors and shines a light on the people who rap on his series of plugge sin

[@jamesputtik1474]

Tv series , movies , video games influence crime as much

[@raijinenel3116]

such culture.....

[@Su-cl6kn]

Take that risk is hard still

[@user-gj5yy6rk2q]

Everyone had this huge outcry in America when NWA made violent rap lyrics. Everyone got used to it and understand it’s art. It will take time until UK Drill does the same

[@user-uj6lc2ql2p]

Wrong in three ways. Drill is real. Whilst the individual artist is in the booth, and yes may become successful enough to leave the road life, they encourage others to get into it (look at the road life craze now), for every artist that makes a success 4 kids get involved. And lastly, the music is a catalyst for existing beefs. Don’t be in denial.

[@erikstivrins8398]

@@user-uj6lc2ql2p at the end of the day its there free will to use drill as there encouragement for violence...

[@erikstivrins8398]

@Carl Collins everyone’s art is different...

[@Yh-vi2sv]

And now being a gangbanger is pretty much a part of black American culture …

[@btmorley833]

NWA was all about facing up to the police brutality which was and still is a big problem in the US. They were about standing up for minorities. Yes, they referred to some of the awful things that happens in ghettos and deprived places, such as drug dealing, gun violence, etc. but they rapped about it, they didn’t glorify it. They rapped about it but didn’t gloat or boast about it, or encourage it. They encouraged making it out of the hood. Drill rappers glorify and encourage all of these bad things, boasting about how many man they’ve touched or how much money they’ve made from dealing. All it does is draw youngers from the next generation into the scene and continue the cycle of crime. And then they turn around and blame it on race and class and the government.

[@torquilgordon8945]

it is freedom of speech and so are my Johnny Rebel and old David Allen Coe records along with screwdriver and Moonman

[@jayevans5174]

drill isn't music it's just a microphone and a sampala and a drum machine

[@davidjones-wt2qq]

That sounds Shit

[@JoelOutPlayedU]

This can be said for EVERY genre of music

[@michaelhuggins8513]

Totally understand why people can question the lyrics but would it surprise many people who commented on this that the majority of people who buy this music are not what many perceive to be. I don’t like this music but again the narrative of GB news is crystal clear, you could have chosen to go through the words Bob Marley as a contrast but we know this will never happen on this format.

[@JR-lb7iw]

It is the soundtrack to stabbing. The genre should be banned. We do not need this in our cities and society.

[@bigs2323]

We should exercise freedom of speech….

[@hdsofia]

Everybody knows that drill is not a positive genre of music even Fumez.But its ART full of energy .One of the best drill artists are active gang members or have high criminal rate in their past. This is the reality and this is why is one of the realest genres. There are some top artist like Central Cee , Ardee , who turnes the drill sound into positive but they are not real drillers , they are artists . Streets are not for everyone , but who made their life better with this music needs respect , because it isnt impossible !

[@hsthatzo8063]

Farage now got one of the best intros in drill now lowkey😂😂

[@nikaahmed5345]

Telling a story about how they dip man’s chest, fumes sounds like a year 7 kid explaining him self after getting caught doing dumb shit

[@bantawithme804]

They go studio to make money and speak to opps… drill is not positive music and a positive way to think. Drill is a very deep genre 🤷🏿‍♀️ Fumez is wrong here. It needs to change 👋

[@lvke2294]

freedom of speech end of

[@lz_0123]

Listen to "Ban drill" by Krept and Konan. You will understand the real issue with drill music

[@krishnan-resurrection714]

..also the fact ..... that it is shit ....... !

[@onewheel9406]

Fumez answered these questions on point didn’t crumble at all

[@iffysd9864]

Fumez hold the L Yes the genre gives one of very few opportunity to those who are able to monetize it. The production on drill beats are designed to be aggressive and hard hitting you can play it whilst working out but cannot act like lyrics don't provoke actions

[@phantomhorse8255]

Wish I had freedom of speech!!!

[@southbristolbcfc1943]

If politics joe isn’t clipping forage and making a drill song I’m gonna be disappointed

[@robinclarke9978]

I wish he and I lived in parallel universes. We almost do but not nearly enough though. P. S what is drill music?

[@jayevans5174]

It's not music there isn't a musician in sight

[@yungbeatz8261]

it’s a genre of rap music, originating from the uk, mainly made by gangs

[@nomadliving2212]

Rap music relating to or about Gangs and gang violence

[@yungbeatz8261]

@@nomadliving2212 not always, ed sheeran makes drill music sometimes, don’t remember him shooting or stabbing people

[@nomadliving2212]

@@yungbeatz8261 then he does not make drill music

[@crimeinvestigatoruk9831]

nigel is brilliant!!!!

[@ValliVitlausi]

I've listened to violent music from since i remember and not just drill or rap, also metal and screamo and so on and i'm probably the least violent person there is, i've never so much as punched a guy ever in my life and never gotten into any fights or anything so clearly it hasn't had a negative impact on me, in fact it just gets me energized and pumped and ready to go do what needs to be done. If i'm ever in a bad mood i'll listen to extra violent and extra aggressive music to let out the anger so i don't take it out on other people, so if anything i'd say it's just had an extremely positive impact on my life. Also if a person listens to violent music and also commits violent acts that doesn't automatically mean it was the musics fault, this argument has been used against violent video games and violent movies and violent books and pretty much just anything about violence but it's just people jumping to conclusions too quickly because it sounds like it makes sense when in fact its just not the case at all.

[@pcrashford3404]

Bare face lying, all for bread. He said it keeps them off the streets but these songs have a different sort of reach. Worser than them being out on the streets.

[@mkt106]

Nigel is correct here. Drill music adds fuel to the fire, yeah sure the average year 9 kid bopping his head to digga d, isnt gonna cause violence, but it 100% causes more issues between those involved.

[@odyssey.studios]

Growing up in London I’ve seen the kids on the block go from nice, regular schoolkids to roadman making drill music, shotting packs and walking around with knives. It makes me sad. Drill music is the product of a dysfunctional society that leaves people with no purpose and puts too much emphasis on wealth and material things. This stems from the inequality, poverty and generational trauma in many communities across London and the country. Social media also has a huge part to play in todays problems.

[@bumboklaatry5828]

this is facts

[@reubenkabuga9112]

Hes a top waffler🤣🤣🤣

[@d1brentfordfan373]

Ppl acting like the police arent the biggest gang in ldn

[@RoastedEm]

This fool is sat there contributing to the downfall of his own people KNOWINGLY just for some money and clout. SMH

[@johnwilliams2479]

Yooow Rayciss enit na what i meeen bro

[@valeriegrimshaw1365]

When it was my 'hood (contraction of neighbourhood obvs.) there was NO violence, NO thieving ( we had nothing). These people encourage evil doing...then they go to church on Sunday....

[@Gingercornet]

Mr Smirkee Dopey Bollox can't put two wordz togevver. Innit.

[@d0r1675]

Geezers gone on the news wearing a psg shirt... says it all

[@seekforjannah2432]

Yh best French team

[@trebletate]

Texas Chainsaw Massacre… Good Drill Music… Bad

[@trebletate]

But it’s cool to show graphic imagery in horror flicks