7 PHOTOGRAPHY MISTAKES I see all the time

[@Highdepthfilms]

Great video Nigel, learned a lot on this one and for those interested the landscape master class, I cant say enough about it, It has been great. Sharing of photos with the others has been fantastic and I have received great feedback that has helped my photography.

[@NigelDanson]

Thanks for the kind words James - appreciate that

[@thomashiller971]

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[@theresasolomon6785]

Very good

[@nixe007]

@@NigelDanson ff

[@LetArtsLive]

That's it the whole thing is about light. I like the light in the morning or evening I think I prefer evening. I'm still searching for the Perfect Image probably always will be. I know photography is important. The reason I know it is so important it's because when I saw on TV their whole house blew away everything was gone. And the woman was clinging to her picture of her family like it was the most important thing on the Earth to her and it was all she had left. Some local artists snobs I think they think photography is not an art. I don't agree. I guess it's in how you do it. I'm thinking the subject is not always have to be in the middle

[@25557813]

I think this kind of discussion is much more useful than talking about cameras.

[@mavicpro-ut1qs]

I was going to type this

[@TheSundayGamer]

I agree 100%. The equipment is a means by which the craft is executed. So much more goes into it than that. My brother in-law is a filmmaker, and all-around AV wizard. That man can take a better shot with a cellphone than I could ever dream of taking with my spendy DSLR rig. Dude just knows how to frame a shot and he knows exactly how it will look before he even presses the shutter release. I would kill for that kind of instinct.

[@robmendoza6210]

Indeed it's very interesting and usefull information,but if nobody discussed the tool used to take those beautiful pictures then most likely the technology wouldn't improve because no one cares.

[@Hephasto]

Both topics are important. Don’t underestimate the role of good equipment in the photography. Sometimes I hear people arguing that a "true" photographer can produce a masterpiece out of crapy lens. But what if a great photographer picks up a great gear? That can only lead to an even better results. Also, there are a bunch of gear lovers who enjoy getting into details and specs.

[@25557813]

@@Hephasto i think to be a pro photographer , e.g. sports , portrait, wedding, gear is crucial. But for people who treats photography as a form of art expression or hobbie (liking painting) . Gear is not that relevant. Any cheap 2nd hand dlsr will do the job perfectly. However, the skills and inspiration the art of photography takes, is enormous. Thats why i think we need videos like this.

[@TheAdrift]

A good trick for the fifth point: when you have harsh, bright midday light, go from shooting whole scenes to shooting smaller subject matter! I used to do a lot of bird photography, and midday light is the best light for capturing their interesting little faces. Whenever I would try to shoot landscapes during this time, they always looked a little boring-I would try to spice it up a little in post, but for me personally, they always just looked like they’d been white-balanced incorrectly. So I would do bird photos during midday, and then landscapes at sunset (because hell if I’m getting up early enough to see the sun rise haha)

[@unemeoj]

Beauty (a good picture) is in the eye of the beholder. Evoking emotion or wonder in the viewer, is where art begins...

[@ramblingrob4693]

i agree

[@LinnieHarper]

Wow! Thanks to everyone who allowed their photos to be used in this video. It’s so easy to get attached to a photo emotionally when you are learning.

[@chrissekely]

While your advice isn't wrong, it does come from a particularly artistic sensibility that not everyone shares. Take, for example, the idea that a photo should have a single point of focus. That really does make for good images. However the opposite can also be true. Consider the paintings of Salvador Dali. Many of his works have multiple different things to focus on. Your seven rules are great. They work. But breaking the rules on purpose can also work if you maybe have a different purpose for your art, want to create a certain unsettled feeling, or just have a different aesthetic sense altogether. Art shouldn't always be about comforting, pleasant, balanced, single focus images. Thoughts?

[@floris5463]

I agree Chris, although I do think that the Nigels artistic sensibility (if I may quote your nice phrasing) is one that is shared by many. Most people, I reckon, visit typical landscape photography locations because of the sense of tranquility they bring - seasides, misty forests, mountain views. These locations are commonly associated with peace of mind and lack of stress, so that will often be the feeling that they will want their photos to convey. I can imagine that if you are photographing a stormy sea for instance, maybe you would prefer your final image to have a chaotic or unsettling appearance instead.

[@rasmachris94]

I could see this being good advice for people trying to learn single-focus photo's, working on composition and a core subject. But personally think that it can be a tad misguiding to say 'photo's with a core subject, or balanced images are objectively better'. The most beautiful image in the line of shots was in fact at 13:28. You want to give the audience a place to rest their eyes, but this can be taken in two different ways. The first is that the viewers eyes must rest on the subject and nothing else, all else must be isolated or open space to draw the eye. The second is that you have intricate work that requires a visual break for the viewer, and therefore acts as a natural vignette. And in this case that would be open skylines, rivers and the like. Neither are better than the other, they are just different approaches to the same use of negative space but to promote one and ignore the other seems a little silly. Mind you, saying there is a 'right' way to take pictures is kind of silly in and of itself. If it looks good then the end result is all that matters as ultimately people can tell beauty from looking at it, not from quantifying and standardising methods because that too, becomes boring and disinteresting.

[@Ishamv3]

Yeah, I felt the same way while he was commenting on some photos. They looked good on their own, and didn't need cropping, in my view. Still, whatever he told are good, general rules. And the key point in your paragraph is "breaking the rules ON PURPOSE", which he actually talks about at the end of his video. ​@Rasma Chris There is definitely a right way to take pictrures, and there is a wrong way. There may be more than one right way. Also, I would definitely crop 13:28 to get closer to the boat and get rid of the side bushes.

[@postal_the_clown]

Sometimes I like the stories that can be imagined in a shot that is "too complicated." At 14:06, It's a normal day in the field, but what mystery lies in the mountains beyond? Cropped to just the mountain...I don't wanna go there.

[@DonPascquale]

thats exactly what i was thinking...👍

[@MudMaxMetalDetecting]

I agree about the diagonals but many of the images you thought could be improved really worked for me. The grass and the boat and the fence and the river etc, you said there was too much going on but for me it was the opposite, I loved all the different features that you can move your eyes to and get so much from the scene. I guess it's a personal thing.

[@cameronbutler7088]

Hieronymous Bosch appreciator spotted haha

[@llluqueee]

Agree with you. I don't love all the pictures but some of them are good and Nigel is giving bad tips in an artistic pov sometime. For example, the boat and the fence, for him are too much. But if you want in your artistical demarch share an idea you will never respect a strict rule of "you shall put one subjet on each photo, however, it will be baaaaad because the viewer will have to stay more than 10mn on the image to understant everything". For me photography is not capturing the beautifull or the unusuall of the life. Photography is like paint or other arts, you can share what you want. So, in my opinion, if you want to saturate the viewer of information by adding lot sof subjects (boat + fence). Or if you want to make a ugly composition to show the bad side of somethink (like a factory) by disturbing the viewer, you can. And you should make this to not stay with the people that are taking basic photos of sunsets with a fischer on a little boat in front of the sunset. My art teacher (someone who worker with a big french compositor) gave me a definition of art few months ago : Art it's what is disturbing you (déranger in french. Idk if the translation have the same way but art make you think and you will never see a good art that will not make you think. (if you are art sensible of course.) By art, he is obviously talking about not commercial art.

[@AnnekeOosterink]

Yeah, same with the balance with the big rock on the beach, he said it was bad because the rock dominated the image and tilted the picture, but I would do that very much on purpose tbh, a picture doesn't have to be balanced to be good. I'd argue lots of great photo's aren't balanced and shouldn't be to be good. "Imbalance" can be a deliberate choice and can elevate an image. Same with what you said. Most of his tips seem to go for a calm peaceful pictures, but that's not everybody's goal.

[@left9096]

I almost lost it when he used the picture at 11:51 as a bad example

[@JerGoes]

The problem is beauty is in the eye of the beholder, this also applies for art and in turn photography. There were a number of 'bad examples' in this video I couldn't disagree more with, not least the boat/fence one but also the golden gate photo which to my perspective the bridge was a background feature to the rocks on the foreshore.

[@ValdiValdies]

It's so rare to see someone giving so constructive feedback. Love it

[@ScrapDisk]

I see your point with cluttered composition, but that mountain shot with the sheep was great! The little animal really helped to sell the sheer scale of the cliffs.

[@serendigity]

Re the lighting point. A lot of the time people are on single day trip outings in the day time and do not have the luxury to hang around for better weather conditions and lighting. A lot of the truely best shots are in golden hours, sunsets and sunrises, and if you visit somewhere from 10am to 2pm your options are limited. Therefore the day trip becomes an overnight trip, or even a several day trip to be able to be there with the light better suited to photography...

[@basukisugito3275]

That's why I always bring my camera to hope be on right place on right time. Is time consuming try be on right place on right time. Better let that come to you

[@maennitv]

100% agree with you. Some times you are on a trip with your family (wife, kids) so you have not the time for perfect light, but you want this shot. I am sry for my bad English I hope you understand what I mean.

[@thomasmaughan4798]

It is what it is. Ansel Adams lugged a huge 8x10 view camera and would wait for hours or days to get one perfect shot. One of my all-time favorites his his photo of the Grand Tetons in back of the S-curve of the Snake River. Logging had reduced the trees near the river making it a glorious sunset. Now it is impossible to replicate that photo because tall trees obscure the river.

[@looktothefuture84]

Personally, if that's the case, a lot of the time I just won't take the shot. If it's not something I might hang on my wall or at least put on my website I'd rather just enjoy and be in the moment without any digital distractions. I'm just not interested in collecting a ton of snapshots that I put on a hard drive and never look at again.

[@chnacr2]

That's the difference between snapshots and photography. In a snapshot it doesn't matter if lighting and composition come together in a harmonious manner. Of course they can used as a nice personal memories of the trip, but wouldn't really be usable in context of professional photography. The standards are a little different

[@fancyquebecoise4550]

I love how you showed on some photos how to make them better. The one with the mountain top with the fog especially stands out to me.

[@niajmorshed8245]

I have literally spent hundreds of hours watching this type of videos and maybe after about 3 years, I think I've learnt something new today

[@AllisterBradley]

Thanks for the lesson, Nigel. This is the good stuff. I do have a suggestion, though. You’ve shown some compositions that don’t work, and for some you’ve shown an alternate take - brilliant. But for others, I’m left wondering what I could have done differently when I’m up there on the location. For each example you use, I’d love for you to show how to compose it differently. Cheers.

[@kensellar]

Great tips. Happy to say that I am familiar with all of them, having shot video for many years and being an amateur photographer for some 40 years. When I'm in the midst of a scene that feels like it has potential, I always move around and take pictures from perhaps a half dozen spots in the same location. Go left, go right, walk forward, walk back. Even something as simple as crouching down can change everything. As you mention, if you just walk 20 feet this way or that way, suddenly there is a new story to be told. As a fan of videography and photography, I feel that both need to tell a story. That has to a lot to do with your compelling subject comments. I always feel like I am telling a story with a photograph, and where your eye rests as you say, is the climax of that story. Your tips will be good reminders for when I'm out there! My wife and I plan to go to the Amalfi Coast in a year or two, and if I can't take amazing photographs there, I might as well put my camera away for good! Awesome work. You just got yourself a new subscriber!

[@milanyasworld]

Great job on this video! When you were cropping the images I kept thinking, “What is he talking about, it’s beautiful as is.” But after you were finished with the crop I was like…. “I see… yeah, that does feel much better.” Landscape photography is my favorite, and this video made me want to go back and review some of the photos I’ve taken to see how I can improve. Thanks for the tips!!

[@somewholesome6833]

I love how he always says "I feel that", so polite and kind

[@verylazylewis]

Take a shot every time he says it.

[@robertYTB78g]

It can also be taken as "everybody is different, this is just the way I like it". I actually like some of the examples the way they were... which I think he is acknowledging, while still giving us some ideas to think about.

[@emjay9323]

This is the most helpful video I have seen on this subject. Please make more like this. Showing very specific examples of what works and what doesn't really drives these points home. Please make more videos like this.

[@ralphwatson7036]

Sometimes it's not "what" you explain, it's "how" you explain it. And these tips were interesting to watch with great examples, and easy to follow. Thanks for the very useful info.

[@billrutherfordmusic]

Really helpful critiques! Great video.

[@JulieCourtJacob]

This is a fantastic video! I'm a portrait photographer and have never really understood landscape photography. This video really lays out how to see a landscape, and the good/bad examples are super helpful. I love the critiques and edits to show how to make an image better. I'd love to see lots more like this! Hope I'll be able to take these lessons to heart and create some better landscapes myself.

[@RobertGrayMusic]

Great stuff. I much prefer hearing about composition than gear!

[@makingitthrough190]

Wow! Thanks to everyone who allowed their photos to be used in this video. It’s so easy to get attached to a photo emotionally when you are learning.

[@KyleDean66]

I’ve taken so many photos of amazing scenes that disappoint because they lack the elements you discuss. Thank you for going over the pics and pointing out ways for improvement!

[@ronmortimer252]

"Photography: painting with light; poetry: painting with words; imagination: dancing with the wind." ... my attempt at philosophic thought. Your video brought this back to memory, so thanks for the video. Ron from Aus :)

[@americanspirit2566]

music: Painting on silence

[@nicko4785]

Farting in public

[@shrivlet4380]

I'm a visual art students but sometimes i always thought learning photography might gives me an upper hand in understanding the balances or what makes a dramatic views. this video really taught me something and you have my gratitude.

[@tom7471]

This is such a great video to remind us (or teach newbies) that everything in the frame needs to work as one and when something (anything) becomes a distraction the image is less than it can be. And we all want what is the most of every given scene. Thanks for posting!

[@hurtighansen1]

Many of my best shoots are cropped. Offend snapshot from 360 cams. Where i stumple over great lightning, and use it. Offend, setting up cams running near kids, dogs, so on gives snapshots there cant compares too at foto, only becace you see everything, and snapshot frame by frame. 4k 60fps takes amassing shots. 360 need to be 5,7k 30fps. I know, thats not real foto,s lol. but damn it works. My canon, who want it. Not in use. Now canon made 180lenses. Thats 8k Raw. thats rocks

[@KattenJonsson]

I do appreciate his points, but I feel like taking this kind of advice too seriously totally kills your creativity. Taste is subjective. Take photos of what YOU think is worth capturing.

[@bradpevans]

i dont think he was commenting on subject matter. framing, composition, lines, etc

[@aaronrempel2489]

um, excuse me? This guy is right on everything. As for me, I just do whatever I'm told, without question. It's better that way. Less thinking.

[@Bulhbluhbuy]

Theres something to be said for learning the rules before breaking them! His advice is basically lessons you would learn in a beginner art class and they’re taught for good reason.

[@potatopilot16]

@@aaronrempel2489 If you do as you’re told in everything in photography then you’re doing something wrong. Photography is about experimenting.

[@allendemis3988]

I agree with you... Good points put there but photography is art and art is expression.

[@Christopherphantom]

Articulating gut instincts and weaving that into a constructive criticism is quite tough. I felt this video encapsulates those aspects beautifully. Thank you. :) really appreciate this.

[@JadeAkelaONeal]

3:22 is one of the most beautiful photos I've ever seen and I like it far better than the photo you showed next.

[@saliktanveer2605]

i come back to this video every once in a while for refresher. thank you so much

[@suhailadam]

This is honestly one of (if not THE) best "photography mistakes" video I've seen. It's very informative and useful. Thank you so much

[@DeeBrown1239]

Great video, I was editing some photographs that I took the other day and after watching this I went back and changed it up and now I am seeing some great changes

[@JakubMareda]

I think the boat-fence-river image actually did a great job telling a story of sorts. You start with the boat and then follow the fence's s-curve all the way to the river, which in turn brings you to the sky through the horizon.

[@ninelaivz4334]

You are correct but Nigel did say to get closer to the boat and make it bigger, then you really are telling the story you mentioned with the boat being the vehicle through which the story is told. The trees on the side and less so the tree line on the distance are boxing in the photo.

[@timd4524]

The one with the fence leading to the mountains was pretty good. The fence drew me to the mountains in the background.

[@paulmohney5715]

some people handle randomity better than others. I personally prefer images to be compelling, w/o being overwhelming or overly busy. Which for me becomes a distraction

[@melody3741]

Yeah and the grass muddles it

[@keithpurtell1213]

Very good video! The only place where I didn't quite agree was "No compelling element." I see landscapes with a lot of emphasis on the idea of a scene. I often want the viewer to take it all in and decide for themselves what is the compelling part. Of course, I recognize that's what works for me on my path, and what Nigel is talking about works beautifully for him on his path.

[@PropDusting]

If you tap the screen of the ipad pro with two fingers it will Undo your last action and if you tap with three fingers it will put it back again. Love the video! Thanks!

[@Dave-ct1jk]

KZbin gave me a really good edit to your video. You said "and the fifth thing-", then an ad for a chocolate bar which started by saying "enjoy your moments". Really good way to remind me that photography is to be fun, and enjoyable.

[@galaxytraveler5779]

"Never stop exploring" great words there, something i have always loved doing since i was a kid. All of my friends only drive to work and back and to the lake for a swim or go fishing once in a while. They can't understand why i have to drive for 5 or more hours out of town every weekend to explore places i haven't been. That has been my main passion ever since i got a car.

[@lindawinther8341]

Im new at takling fotos so i Think i learned a log of how to get a good fore Ground and make connections. It helped me. Thanks nigel.

[@triples6670]

I just bought a new camera and starting to research about how to take a good scene.. and this is all i need.. I could not believe i watched the whole video without even skip, cuz mostly i just skip the video to the important part, but in this one, the whole video has an important information and the way you explain those things is really easy to understand for beginner like me. Thank you so much for sharing this. It really helps me as a beginner in photography 🙏

[@fyuuredhijgfzregjjygtdftyi6021]

Excellent stuff. You have a manner of delivery that enables and inspires. You're very natural and warm. Brilliant teacher.

[@ColinCambridge]

Nigel, I’ve watched a few of your videos now and every one of them is full of valuable tips and information. It takes a lot of work and time to make a good professional video, so I appreciate the all the time and effort you put in to each one of them. Thanks for sharing your insight and experience along with another big thanks to your students for sharing their work for you illustrate your points. Keep up the great work, mate!

[@KusumaWijaya]

Yeah bro, thanks a lot

[@NeilMyatt]

I’ve read/seen so many topics on these things, but this vid made me learn so much more as the specific issues were explained with examples…Thanks so much! I subscribed! 😊

[@jeandelarauze5864]

Interesting to hear that you're not only speaking about mathematical settings wich could help us taking better shots but also about a more poetic interpretation. I guess it depends on each other's feeling, but it seems you got a pretty good taste in creating a great composition during shooting.

[@JG27Korny]

The learning curve from good enough to amazing is very steep, and that video addresses exactly that. Thanks for the video.

[@looneyburgmusic]

When every reason for a certain photo layout being a "mistake" starts with "I feel", that would mean these are not "mistakes" - they are all artistic choices, which some may not agree with.

[@zevaniia]

Yeah, they're just selfish. We shouldn't define other ppl works as mistake 😞

[@gameboy666666]

I agree. I understand the tips about light and some other perspectives. Some of those "rejected?" photos that you have show look beautiful in my eyes. It would be unthinkable for me to point out to the photographer about some details in his art that are really just visible for me. Fallowing your rules and view how a good photo looks like are made maybe by 1% camera users. Less rules more creativity

[@DiffuseSpy392]

yea for some of them. while i kinda see his point. i feel like not having an obvious subject is a kinda cool artistic choice. seems a bit critical.

[@JadeAkelaONeal]

I like some of these "mistakes" a lot.

[@looneyburgmusic]

@@JadeAkelaONeal By definition, "creative arts", such as photography, are subjective to the individual who creates the art. I've seen and heard similar critiques in the music world as well over the decades, and honestly, I've always seen that as an elitist-jerk move - we all have different tastes.

[@DreamCatcher101-6]

The most enjoyable 20mins i have ever spent on KZbin thanks

[@nickswisher6759]

I'd never thought much about the foreground drop off but after hearing you talk about it I was able to understand some of my images which I like but just aren't fully there.Good tips!

[@alanwarwick1934]

Really useful tips and great points raised here thanks, Nigel. I also got a very strong sense of ‘less is more’ (and so much better) coming through.

[@TheFlowMind]

This is probably the best video on composition that I've seen in a while. You're listing all the issues that I slowly understood in 2/3 years on the field.

[@panzerfaust480]

This was extremely helpful. I take a bunch of pictures of an area and then find the ones I like the best. What I should be doing is going back at different times in the day and reshooting for improved lighting.

[@pnwadventurer9674]

Hearing you say that you used to make those mistakes too, is sooooo much more comforting

[@fgap1]

Some of the greatest photographs of all time have these very same "mistakes".

[@darcykelley6674]

Thank you for this tremendously helpful video. I appreciate that you didn't get hyper-technical and used language everyone can understand. Super helpful and I can apply it immediately.

[@CosmicAtmosphere]

Thank you so much, man. I'm beginning in photography and this advices will be really helpful. Also, I'm not native English speaker, but I could understand everything you said. Your English diction is great. Thanks a lot!

[@tuhinsubhramandal2382]

An extremely grest video. Everyone talks about camera settings. You'll understand it yourself within a month by experimenting. But all what is necessary is composing. A comapact camera can also deliver stunning images due to the beauty of composition. And you've covered it in the video outstandingly. Compositiom requires very high experience, and also vision, which cannot be gained easily. Thanks to your video, it helps in gaining it.

[@mdinunzio7610]

I think this is a great video and I love the information you are sharing with your viewers too make their shots better and what not...but, there's always a but right! Lol my opinion here is probably because I'm extremely amateur as far as being a photographer is concerned but I really like a few of the unbalanced photos more before you "fixed" them. Sometimes the unbalance made them feel mood-ier or more real because in life and hiking, camping, adventuring or whatever you see the world in many unbalanced perspectives and it isn't always perfect and yet it IS perfect. Its like capturing a mood of that moment with imperfect light or whatever. I dunno maybe I'm rambling and not making sense but yeah, some times I prefer the not necessarily ad worthy

[@tormodnordskog7702]

Thank you for a nice and informative video, I have had many photo trips here in Norway and must say that sometimes you forget a little and discover it when you look at the pictures when you come home.

[@AdamMatthewsPhotography]

Critiquing real images to illustrate the various points was super helpful. Really big thanks to everyone who let you use their images! Even with their shortcomings, they give me a lot to aspire to. Now to try to remember all these points next time I'm in the field... 😉

[@MA-no8tz]

Wow! Another simple but amazing video. Every time I watch your videos I learn something new and useful that I can use to improve my skill. Many thanks.

[@kellymain1705]

Headed to Iceland soon and I want to actually get good use of my camera. Thank you for the tips! I want to do the landscapes in Iceland justice.

[@timroberts1109]

I really enjoyed your video/tutorial! Your background story about quitting your cookware job to focus on being a creator really inspires me. Keep it up!

[@SeanTaylorPhotography]

Normally I don't watch these sorts of 'tips' videos, but I wanted a bit of distraction while I worked, and I gotta say I thoroughly enjoyed this. Really great of your fans/students to provide images for critique (and I would have loved to have seen a few of your scuffed shots too!), and really helps to demonstrate what you were explaining. Love your use of the tablet too, really innovative. Great relaxed style, easy to listen to/watch. Really really enjoyed it mate thanks for the content :)

[@NigelDanson]

Thanks Sean 👍🏼

[@69dm]

The best teaching video I've seen about photography. And I've seen thousands of them

[@juliavaughan2866]

This was really helpful! I'm definitely guilty of many of these mistakes - sometimes I don't know why an image doesn't quite work, and these mistakes explain so much!

[@SC-bg8wf]

I can recognise a great photo from an ok version, but I can not pinpoint why one works much better, so this has been very helpful

[@SomeoneStoleGameHunter115]

I tend to intentionally imbalance my photos. For example, I like to take pictures with things like railings and walls in focus at the left, and then the more important part of the image such as a lake or a sunset out of focus in the background. I like the effect.

[@Ajsh-18237]

I actually felt like him making the photos more “balanced” just made them boring. They make for a good stock photo, but lack artistry and there are millions more just like them.

[@AnnekeOosterink]

Thank you! Yes, strongly agree. I said this in other threads as well. A balanced picture can be your goal, and that's fine, but an "unbalanced" one isn't a mistake. That was what rankled me the most I think, calling his preferences correct, and others, mistakes. Like, it's not a mistake to have a dark image, or to have a big rock on the left, it is a choice. If that choice isn't to his taste, that's cool, but to call a different taste or approach or goal a mistake is not great.

[@walaiwadchaiyabutr5478]

Thank you for your valuable suggestions. I will improve my shots.

[@elshika]

I'm a noob. All those photos just stunningly beautiful enough for me ._.

[@fgap1]

Same here - and I'm NOT a "noob".

[@robb.lee91]

Well, they are THAT good, but can still be improved to make it better. It just shows that we never stop learning, on one hand, but also that there's a particular sensibility for anyone on the other. Of course experienced ppl will spot details a less navigated user doesn't, and thanks god it os so.

[@danielgstohl9993]

*photo comes up* me: oh that looks pretty nice Nigel: if you look at this shot, it's quite unbalanced me: oh yes of course. it's terrible, what were they thinking?

[@godofhope]

Stunning locations! This is the most important:) When you can’t travel to an exiting location it doesn’t help that your local park doesn’t look like Yosemite 😆

[@togononjohnnepomuceno224]

Same,I'm an amateur in photography

[@lisamous5810]

Hi Nigel, I have just watched a KZbin video of 7 Photography Mistakes and just wanted to thank you. I am a beginning photographer and I would love to see my photos enlarged. I am self taught and feel photography is a special hobby that I have enjoyed over the last 20 years. I would love to be as good as you. Keep snapping 😊

[@DonFather]

I think the problem with many of those photos is that people take them while they are on a stroll through those landscapes when it's a nice day. They are trying to bring back a souvenir of their happy hiking advanture instead of dedicating time and effort to go out on a day that they probably would think is miserable for a hike, but is actually good for a photo. In other words, not enough sacrifice is being made for the good shot.

[@PaulDixon]

I think that's the main difference between (most) amateur and professional photographers. The professional will plan to be in a certain place at a certain time, they will revisit locations multiple times, they will wait for the right conditions, and they will go out in all weathers. And when professionals are out in less than favourable photography conditions, they know how to make the best of bad situations.

[@keithrice1236]

Agreed. I have said many times that there is a huge difference between a photograph and a snap-shot

[@kwaaikat100]

What is amazing here is that for the most, almost everyone, even people without much interest in photography, unconsciously apply these principles when judging what is a good picture.

[@philbrown8181]

Thanks so much to all the photographers who shared their images, it's made for a really helpful and strong video. (Thanks to Nigel too!)

[@bris.e]

Amazing explanation! Thank you so much! I have been looking at tons of videos about cameras setups and more, but this really drives me into the image composition and that is exactly what I needed to break the ice!

[@lemechantjuge5837]

Finally someone, like me, who doesn,t keep taling about the "rule of thirds" TY

[@francisco5434]

But he did show examples, like the wooden bench in the foggy forest: his cropping tool came up in the rule of thirds and he placed the tip of the bench using it. I would have to say this video goes deeper and covers more than the basics, so he didn't dedicate a lot of time to the basics. That's what made it great for me.

[@joelallen7235]

ROT is basic and in most cases will not let you down.

[@andrewhendrick3347]

True. I felt like he was addressing the audience who already knows the basics of photography.

[@DielsonSales]

You can still see that he's using it when he crops the flower image 😆

[@nicholec1251]

I love the photo references. They help me comprehend so much more

[@hartsphotography]

Im not generally a fan of these 7 things videos but liked this one a lot, very useful.

[@TheAbsoluteJoy]

Perfect crop for the Golden Gate pic. That is a great photo because we get a good sense of the coastline and a real California type of photo. The tiny crop out makes such a huge difference in "buy ability". This is why we have other photographers look at our photos. Thanks!

[@FhVW]

I always stick with: you need a subject, makes photo's and video way more interesting. And my second rule is create depth with layers.

[@richardgreene5119]

Your experiential discernment is as prominent as your compelling evidence of proper composition. I subscribed to your relevance. Bless God for your talent & gifted bent towards His perspective concerning His natural creation & technology!

[@keco185]

My takeaway from this is to make sure your picture doesn't look like a where's Waldo or eye-spy

[@furmston.creative.studio]

LOL. Unless you’re Andreas Gursky.

[@sonoda24563]

thank you for the video! It made me realize I have to be more selective about what I put in frame. I think a really breathtaking photo is selective about what catches your attention and evokes emotion rather than confuse the message

[@Dvid9331]

These are not mistakes. These are what you think mistakes. Huge difference

[@theocean3364]

Well said, there is no such thing called mistake in art. If it does then mistakes are arts

[@malahammer]

@@theocean3364 What a load of pretentious rubbish :)

[@theocean3364]

@@malahammer Well, in that case pretentious rubbish is also art now 😂😂

[@linecraft2584]

Thanks for separating the different areas so I could go back easily and re-watch some of the sections.

[@dazzlingdeb8427]

Having a focal point in the image is key. I sometimes forget that. There's a botanical garden that I enjoy visiting, so naturally I take many photos while there. What looks beautiful to me IRL doesn't necessarily make for a good photo. I'll go through my images on Lightroom and often have been disappointed to find that some of the photos look too messy or there's no focal point. I'm in Southern California, and we don't have those nice misty woodlands. The light is often harsh here, and our natural vegetation is scrub brush. Luckily, I live fairly close to the ocean, but I don't go out at sunset anymore due to the coronavirus. Too many people. I need to get out at sunrise to get some good shots.

[@alphat4551]

Not sure I like it when someone speaks on behalf of what my eyes look at first, what they are drawn to and what plays in my head when looking at an image. The image with the little boat and all the surroundings reminded me so much of a place and a time. Yes my eyes wondered around the different elements but it was an enjoyable adventure and the thought of too much to absorb never came into play.

[@watchdogu.s.a.8973]

I had similar feelings to a couple of the critiques. While I agree that a tighter frame is often desired, there are countless photos and paintings of scenes such as the one with the little boat. Had Bob Ross framed everything closely we'd have some some beautiful scenes. In the case of empty of meaningless foreground or background, by all means crop 'er down.

[@tom7471]

He is actually discussing very proficiently about time tested artistic compositions. You may produce images you personally like by having them incredibly complicated and disjointed but you will probably never have a very wide audience of viewers. It is true different people like different types of subjects and even variations of compositions. But, generally, the rule of thirds, the 'S" curve, the proper use of negative space, balance, and a leading foreground are basic musts within a frame. There must be a proportion in the image. Break the rules whenever it works. But they are rules for a reason. When I first started in photography a pro mentioned that it is best to keep everything simple. After a decade I still would have to agree with him. The image you liked is just okay (not very). Shot like the speaker suggested would improve the composition a ton. Of course this is just another photographer's opinion. But to see the difference in a photo like the one with the boat and fence in it and the trees with snow stuck to them is critical to becoming an artist with a camera.

[@alphat4551]

@@tom7471 Not interested in a wide audience of viewers. That's never my goal as I know that would force me to create a composition that follows "certain established rules" and that's not me. It's the same with my oil paintings. What I'm saying is that what may look like a complicated and disjointed image to you, it would be the one that I would love and purchase. Maybe my brain is wired in some strange way, but I much prefer complicated and disjointed! I know that I would stop and look at the little boat image many times as apposed to say the cropped image of the mountain range! So like everything in this world, there is an audience for every possibility.

[@watchdogu.s.a.8973]

@@tom7471 I agree totally from a pure, artistic viewpoint. I picked up my first 35mm camera somewhere around 1975. I have many images that I've created over the years that adhere to those artistic rules - many that don't. I've always been fortunate that even when just shooting a "snapshot" my mind insists on proper composition regarding balance and other aspects. I've never had training in that area - have just shot it the way it felt right... and a lot have come out pretty doggone good. My formal training came when the director of photography for a very well known national portrait company decided personally to train me for portraiture. These days I'd rather photograph places, things, wildlife, and occasionally interesting people and things on the street. The great thing about art as is true in so much - beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[@GreenMorningDragonProductions]

9:00 I think this would work very well, as a mural-sized image. Perhaps covering an entire wall in a restaurant, or as museum exhibit.

[@joemcco500]

If your planning on going that large you better be using a large format camera. I have the A7RII but even if I had the A7RIIII I still wouldn't get a high quality image at that size.

[@lydiademarek]

I loved it!

[@kevink1214]

Thank you for your tutoring on what to look out for when eyeing up our camera shots. I am very new to manual photography, and usually tend to think of overcast, or cloudy, days to not be so good lighting conditions. You broke down and shown much better ways to take a great ,long lasting ,photos.

[@jvermillion1052]

I like your advice. The only slight disagreement is about complexity. I prefer either a very stark image or a very complex image. The photo with the blue boat was a good photo for me. It showed the scene in a more complete way than trying to isolate it and cut out elements. It was not confusing for me, which may be your point. For me, many times the subject of the photograph is the whole scene not one element in it. A photographer like Stephen Shore does that well with simple, plain landscapes that work as one image without any one thing in the image being a subject. It's also very difficult to do right!

[@richardgreene5119]

When putting together a Cyberlink video/photoslideshow (as in my grandchildren's activities), I generally dissect a photo & incorporate multiple cropped images of the same "complicated" photo. IT WORKS! RATHER THAN GOING AFTER A SINGULAR IMAGE for one impression. It's refreshing & highlights the things missed by a viewing audience.

[@estherdiskin3968]

Just came across you Nigel for the first time. I loved your video and it all makes sense. Composition is key Such a lovely easy presenting style. Thank you.

[@petercollins7848]

This is all excellent advice. As human beings, when we look at a scene, we tend to ‘add in’ all our other perceptions, ie; the subjective feeling we have about being out in nature, perhaps the lovely weather, how the particular scene ‘inspires’ us etc. All these perceptions and feelings are transmitted to our brains and processed to create in our minds the particular ‘scene’ as we perceive it. But the problem with cameras is, that they do not have brains or feelings. So to recreate a particular scene into an interesting photograph, some extra work and thought has to be added in, just like our brains do automatically. We all have tons of nice pictures which help us to recall where we have been and are simply ‘record’ photos. But to create an interesting photograph is an entirely different matter. This is the reason why people fall asleep watching other folk’s holiday snaps! They mean little to the person who has not been there.

[@TheMayMiss1]

Love every second of this video. A gem for a beginner photographer. THANK YOU!

[@Keyboardje]

I am not a photographer, but this information is also very interesting for me in connection with drawing and watercolouring landscapes. Thanks! :)

[@adikchhathapamangar787]

You are very thoughtful

[@Katrina.for_art]

yes that's why I'm here too XD

[@rudrakshkanekar2239]

15:03 this shot is so beautiful, I could just look at it for a day and still go on looking

[@askeen8796]

You lost me at 13:30 I feel like saying an image like that one is "too complicated" or "should have focused on one element" really strips away the artistic insight; the emotion the viewer may get. Personally, I thought it was a great shot that could feel adventurous. The reeds at the foreground you pass as you enter, the boat you pick up and follow the fence to the river. I think all of the elements are necessary for images like these.

[@Mr.5ame]

Art is personal

[@LDBaha]

It's a beautiful shot that needs better composition. You can have all those elements but maybe in a better arrangement

[@askeen8796]

@@LDBaha my point is that its subjective. I dont think it need a change in composition at all.

[@ThatManAdrian]

hes a nerd

[@joelallen7235]

@@Mr.5ame Snapshots are personal. Art is transcendent. 99.9% of my photos are Snapshots.

[@JC-XL]

14:07 To be honest the mountain shot with the sheep looks much more interesting to me than the following "good" examples you showed of some uninteresting landscapes. Perhaps he could have changed the perspective a bit going closer to the ground or the sheep or made the entire image darker to unite all elements, but it's interesting at least.

[@andrewhookerphotography4774]

Good tips Nigel, but I must point out that not everyone can re-visit a particular spot over and over to ensure the conditions are great as you have said a few times during the video, hence my question. What do you do when you want a shot such as Davids at 10:40 or Gavin's at 12:30 but cannot wait around or re-visit (because you don't live in that area) when the perfect light or conditions are available? It's simple to say wait for the light or the conditions, but many people don't have that luxury. Would love to hear your thoughts on those shots again in this context.

[@G0FUW]

As an enthusiastic amateur, rather than a pro, I experience that issue all the time, especially when travelling overseas. My view is that you either leave without an image, or you do the best you can in the circumstances, which may mean abandoning the pre-visualised 'killer' shot for something a bit different that does work in the situation you find yourself in. Or you can just swap the sky and drop in a unicorn or something from a different image, but that is not my thing.

[@andrewhookerphotography4774]

G'day Steve. Yes, similar process with me. And I am not a fan of dropped in stuff just to improve a bad circumstance either. Cheers for the message.

[@gwine9087]

I was going to make the same point. Perhaps pros can wait around or revisit sites but most of us don't have the option to wait a few days for a nice mist to form.

[@andrewhookerphotography4774]

GWINE, it is an issue, that's for sure. Probably even for the pro's, except they probably have more time to visit at the right time.

[@caleblatreille8224]

No matter where one lives, professional or not, there is SOMETHING there that you know more intimately than most, at all times of day and at all seasons, that you can revisit, wait for, plan for. Find the most beautiful conditions for the things that are already around you and show that to the world. If I'm in an area where I don't live, I can take great vacation pictures, but I'll trust that the best shots of that location to publish will be taken by people who know it well

[@Anna_Stetik]

In your thumbnail for this video, you have an "X" on the darker image, and a green checkmark on the sunnier image. "Mistake" seems to be your personal opinion because I prefer that darker picture over the too bright and boring sunny pic.

[@charlesturner897]

Exactly, everyone always says to shoot brighter images, shoot to the left on the histogram, etc. I almost permanently have my exp. Comp down by -2 stops

[@chrismartindale2139]

Exactly. My landscapes have a darker moody feel. That is my aesthetic vision.

[@joejackson3665]

I like darker moody images more. But the reason I make sure to up the exposure is to keep the details in those shadows. I will bring my exposure down in post, but at least I can still pull detail from those shadow areas if I needed to.

[@ayshadavis7864]

I don’t think the amount of light in the picture is why he put an ‘x’ over the darker one, especially since the video doesn’t tell you to make your pictures brighter

[@kirara4953]

The darker looks more natural

[@WhenYou1reStrange]

Thanks so much for sharing these tips! I’m just getting started with photography.

[@artemholstov9207]

The photo with a blue boat was actually amazing imho.

[@gunnermac3570]

The blue boat catch your eye, then leads to the fence which lead ls to the river and sky. Seems really good to me.

[@thomasmaughan4798]

A little bit tighter cropping would keep the important elements while not having so much edge clutter and too much foreground.

[@rurbanxp5425]

That's ur opinion but he described the general elements for a great photography which is lacking in that particular photo

[@annelaberge4473]

Loved this video, so well explained and easy to understand. Thanks!