Funfact: you can find use for Shadowmeld even as a rogue. It have separate cooldown with Stealth, so if you have lost Stealth becouse of dot or fall damage - you can pop Shadowmeld and wait for Stealth cooldown and reactivate it. Just macro it to use SM if regular Stealth is on cooldown, it helped me few times to not agro mobs after the fall. +you can macro Sap + stopcasting - Shadowmeld, so you will enter Shadowmeld, after losing Stealth becouse of Sap. It will not help against mobs, but do works against players.
@noname-lf1gr Жыл бұрын
How do you make that macro work?
@silentslayergaming84694 жыл бұрын
This actually leaves room for a talent in something else. Since you really only need to go 4/5 you get a free talent point.
@StealthArt5 жыл бұрын
NELFS have best agi base stat of all races
@Blazingwheel3 жыл бұрын
0:18 it's actually 7/5 because each point is = to 3 points So 5 points = 1 level higher stealth 5/5 Dep grants 15/15 = 3 levels higher stealth Nightelf is 20/15 = 4 levels higher in stealth
@ArenaHealer5 жыл бұрын
I was debating rogue or druid, and this made it even harder choice.
@joshw37195 жыл бұрын
True but Id go nelf even with no passives. Nelf aesthetics over all. NOT EVEN CLOSE
@peter4865 жыл бұрын
i played all races.. all classes i cleard naxx 2005.. if you want to pvp + extra steal levle is a Huge advantage if you wana own other stealth classes yoiu basicly see them before they see you, you wil walwys get off the first kidney
@laoxiong32384 жыл бұрын
Orcs are actually. 30 percent stun resist son. That racial so OP they nerfd it all the way to lich king.
@kennethgroneng5 жыл бұрын
I like your videos. You got yourself a new subscriber!
@soupwithpotatos15425 жыл бұрын
ayy im completely new to wow classic and wow in general but i made my classic character a night elf rogue. feels like i made the right choice
@Azamous5 жыл бұрын
ofcourse you did, their breath doesn't stink whatsoever and they're taller than everyone else
@Yue_Jin5 жыл бұрын
nah go dwarf.
@Azamous5 жыл бұрын
only go dwarf if you're elitist and really need stoneform.
@Kraiden855 жыл бұрын
But for PvE Humans are much better. +5 skill to swords means you hit like a level 61 basically, it matters a lot vs BOSS fights. Also Dwarf have stoneform which breaks blind, bleeds, diseases and other poisons. Gnomes have Escape artist which removes them out of any root or slow, you think the other 3 alliance races have worse racials than this niche NE racial? Imo NE have the worst racials out of all Alliance races for Rogues. And most other classes also. But they have the best animations so it's one or the other.
@Azamous5 жыл бұрын
Nah, I completely agree that Dwarves can trump Nelves and I say to my friends all the time when they say I should roll Dwarf that I just prefer the Nelf aesthetic, this video is half troll/half truth because being a nelf does have it perks and honestly if I didn't prefer them aesthetically I'd roll dwarf for stoneform. The human sword perk definitely has its benefits in PvE too. I'm glad you commented so I could clear this up cause I know that technically the title and context of this video is incorrect from a mechanical standpoint and I've been meaning to do a followup video just to elaborate a bit more and go into why Dwarf is better but I prefer nelf. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@yasha8865 жыл бұрын
subbed for your video justifying my already made choice to play NE. tbh, you could have said anything and I would have played NE. I do like Rambo tho.
@Azamous5 жыл бұрын
night elf GOAT
@rektosaurus85985 жыл бұрын
wow you actually taught me something I didn't know
@erikthewizard77524 жыл бұрын
Shadowmeld can also be used to vanish spells. This is something hardly known but I've experienced a lot of talented nelf hunters and boomies shadowmelding a lava burst or other spell.
@dustryne20 күн бұрын
u cannot use Shadowmeld in combat. Pretty useless on vanilla.
@ObscuredByTime Жыл бұрын
I go dwarf for Find Treasure. Yeah, I like it that much. It's especially good on a rogue because of stealth. You can beat everyone to the chest.
@Justaguyyoutubin Жыл бұрын
You can also use dwarf racial to cancel blind, bleeds and poisons. Dwarf is actually BiS for PvP.
@gonzy4400Ай бұрын
Night Elves HYPE Night Elves HYPE
@nicholasphilip77333 жыл бұрын
And agility is the most important for rogues in attributes. Night elves have highest agility I believe dwarfs have the lowest agility i believe. It's been 12 years since I played it be like learning how to speak English again lol ... I think I lost my password to login or its saved on a text file somewhere ....
@anticringepolice4 жыл бұрын
its not 6/5 because of shadowmeld passive, the value of each master of deception is only 3 stealth level while shadowmeld is 5
@Azamous4 жыл бұрын
nerd
@ottohedlund99553 жыл бұрын
@@Azamous hahaha!
@Jeremyjdawson5 жыл бұрын
LMAO.....Man i was a night elf rogue in vanilla and almost never lost rogue vs rogue.....Human rogues though.....I'll be going human rogue in the classic release
@Azamous5 жыл бұрын
TRAITOR
@chasepineda25855 жыл бұрын
Idk what to do I really hate dwarfs but everyone is saying dwarf is best, I pvp and I want the best advantage as possible but I wanna look cool 0.0 lol. I like NE but everyone says there the worst
@Azamous5 жыл бұрын
@@chasepineda2585 dwarf v night elf - night elf wins everytime because the night elf looks better, which means deep down your character knows it has a higher sense of self worth. this means it will fight harder than a dwarf would. plus they have a higher agility count if I'm not mistaken. along with a higher stealth level. dwarf are just disgusting. they can have their stoneform all they like but once they pop it and you vanish and they can't see you, what they got then? nothing son nelf > dwarf seriously if you go dwarf you will regret that shit
@chasepineda25855 жыл бұрын
AzAMOuS seriously? Would it be better to go human instead vs nelf then? I’m laughing cause I agree dwarfs are disgusting
@chasepineda25855 жыл бұрын
I just will be doing bgs mostly and world pvp
@moresauce30003 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, do you think that nelf rogue is a good choice for tbc? Im torn between nelf and human... will be doing arenas/bgs and a little bit of raiding. Please help:p
@Azamous3 жыл бұрын
Go Human
@1990rable2 жыл бұрын
i admit nelf is strong but even when you get the opener, vs dwarfs and orcs they have the upper hand, vs drawf your blind will do nothing, vs orcs they can resist one of your stuns and its even.. so id say orc is undisputed best class for rogue isnt it second dwarf
@LAMF19765 жыл бұрын
Where can I go for a build/talent map? Just learning, really. Not sure how I should be mapping things and what gear I should be going for.
@Azamous5 жыл бұрын
I actually have a video covering the build coming out very soon
@hqguard25 жыл бұрын
@@Azamous Is it out yet ?
@Azamous5 жыл бұрын
@@hqguard2 Yeah 'Subtlety Levelling Explained Further' - go check it out
@slaybarron36725 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute I’m confused. I thought this would only apply after using shadowmeld and standing still. So you’re saying that it adds stealth bonus even when you’re not standing still using shadowmeld? Otherwise I’d say it’s not that useful because of having to move around during stealth and all.
@Azamous5 жыл бұрын
Yes that's exactly what I'm saying.
@tingchang87775 жыл бұрын
I am sorry, but i think it breaks the buff once the character moved. :(
@Azamous5 жыл бұрын
@@tingchang8777 You're confused as to how it works. Re-read the tooltip :)
@clv6035 жыл бұрын
yEaH maN i CanT bIeLieVe AlL thOsE BiS gUidEs diDn't MenTioN tHiS. NE classes that stealth get +1 level of stealth. the only classes that benefit from that portion of the racial are the ones that _can_ stealth. as it says, rogues and druids with the Shadowmeld ability (does not say active or inactive, only if they have it) get +1 stealth.
@Rotinaj374 жыл бұрын
Is this completely ironic because I kinda want to make a night elf rogue
@Azamous4 жыл бұрын
no it's not ironic, go make a nelf male
@amelfazlic58794 жыл бұрын
What looks best as rouge animation male or female Nelf?im new in wow playng Age of Conan from begin and decide to start WoW
@Boxerkinga3 жыл бұрын
Are Night elf rouges still good in TBC?
@azuraquinlilax12455 жыл бұрын
Wait so...does that extra stealth apply when you use shadowmeld? Or when you use regular stealth
@unaddan5 жыл бұрын
yea when stealth you get extra stealth
@Yoman12895 жыл бұрын
Im torn between UD & NE rogue )= please help, 1 week left
@jacobtb15 жыл бұрын
Orc
@Azamous5 жыл бұрын
Nelf or don't even subscribe
@Yoman12895 жыл бұрын
Deal. That 25 agility start = imba
@motdot16195 жыл бұрын
it's first strike perspective
@pilsatortube5 жыл бұрын
will of forsaken is the strongest racial for a rogue, have fun getting feared :D
@Azamous5 жыл бұрын
let's all just be horde because Undead have WOTF. logic.
@yaboyflvckor456 Жыл бұрын
for pve orcs will be better
@jbdh6510 Жыл бұрын
Also you run 5 % faster in Vanish as a Night Elf Rogue
@dasitmane75908 ай бұрын
How? 😲
@jbdh65108 ай бұрын
@@dasitmane7590 its their passive race bonus
@dasitmane75908 ай бұрын
@@jbdh6510 do they get it in vanish frol the wisp/spirit run racial?
@biggusdickus2105 жыл бұрын
Wait so you have to put a talent point to actually benefit from that racial bonus?
@Azamous5 жыл бұрын
No
@yoku61905 жыл бұрын
i went NELF rogue and everyone is saying i made the shittest choice possible. oh well i guess >_>
@zeoz9115 жыл бұрын
Hmm they have the highest base agi stat in the entire game. Thanks to shadowmeld their master if deception are basically 7/5.........Tell everyone that they have to stop smoking broccoli.
@yoku61905 жыл бұрын
@@zeoz911 Doing swords atm for leveling so not really using sub tree atm, thinking of re-specing to daggers after hitting 60?
@Azamous5 жыл бұрын
you made the best choice. remember this: a prophet is never welcome in his own home
@Hardmetal19935 жыл бұрын
Undead for lyfe dude
@kiljaedyn2 ай бұрын
nothing personal, kid
@thevlaka4 жыл бұрын
i'd rather be able to be more effective with weapons than just have extra strength stealth I can't use while im moving.
@ismaeldeleija81652 ай бұрын
@@thevlaka 4 years late, but night elf racial improves your stealth by +1, you don’t need to use Shadowmeld skill, you just use the skill when you want to eat and get to restealth quickly
@cultofhercules15 күн бұрын
nooooooooooo humans are better rogues because they have 3% extra hit!!!!
@Ryokawshi5 жыл бұрын
This was so dumb.
@john82194 жыл бұрын
Lol nightelfs the “best” race orcs Are clearly better for their resist stun trait. Just wait till your cheapshot or 5 combo point kidney shot gets resisted.
@pilsatortube5 жыл бұрын
that only adds stealth while not moving...
@Azamous5 жыл бұрын
learn the game before commenting
@pilsatortube5 жыл бұрын
thats what you need to do!
@bksuppan38995 жыл бұрын
No its gives a "passive" better stealth / Prowl
@slightly_tilted5 жыл бұрын
Ignorance
@Hatemoth Жыл бұрын
I personally just don’t like how they looks. I prefer dwarves for pvp, your hardest fights as a rogue are against warriors and hunters and stoneform helps a lot with this.