Unc & Ocho DEBATE how quickly Mike Vrabel can turn Patriots around | Nightcap

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@lbonts
@lbonts Күн бұрын
I’m a black pats fan, anyone who says mayo shouldn’t have been fired did not watch the games and is not keyed into the local media about what was going on, at most you could say is he was scapegoated by the org for their own failings, but he was brought in to be a culture reset from Bill bc he was a player first guy and somehow the culture was even worse, the whole wr room was openly hostile to him, everyone tuned him out, and bc he was never a play caller he had no other ability to influence games, I feel like I had as much impact on the game watching at home, so he couldn’t do the one thing he was supposed to bring to the table, to the point the Krafts were literally asking other teams for help managing him and the team, it was really really bad and he was clearly in over his head and never should’ve been hired in the first place
@jameswright7851
@jameswright7851 Күн бұрын
I totally agree, im not Mayo was fired
@brvdyy
@brvdyy Күн бұрын
Ya when it came out that they were calling other teams to ask for advice on how to develop Drake Maye I thought it was absolutely pathetic. People make these crazy leaps without being tuned into what happened OFF the field
@BlackMatrix-pl4fe
@BlackMatrix-pl4fe Күн бұрын
you aint black, stop cappin
@michellesmith38
@michellesmith38 Күн бұрын
Definitely not black lol
@jonathanthompson1190
@jonathanthompson1190 Күн бұрын
Local media didn't want Mayo there to begin with
@eleferojo
@eleferojo 2 күн бұрын
Mayo didn’t get fired just bc of his record. He got fired bc he constantly threw his players and coordinators under the bus, then walked back on it the day after. There were no signs of improvement or fighting spirit as the season progressed. He just wasn’t qualified for the job and Kraft realized it.
@turner1291
@turner1291 2 күн бұрын
People mad they cut him instead of wasting three years developing a head coach when Vrabel is waiting to sign on
@asahthavoice
@asahthavoice 2 күн бұрын
@@eleferojo lmao yeah ok......it's not like other coaches of different complexion have ever done that before right?
@ZacharyTravers
@ZacharyTravers 2 күн бұрын
It’s bc he’s black
@shadow_td
@shadow_td 2 күн бұрын
​@@asahthavoicereal.quick how come y'all didn't have this energy for mayo being GIFTED the job?
@HawaiianStyle808
@HawaiianStyle808 2 күн бұрын
@@turner1291 Vrabel is trash.
@codylecuyer8313
@codylecuyer8313 Күн бұрын
“I’ve never seen a team turnaround that fast” did he not pay attention to the commanders?
@MrZachgonz
@MrZachgonz Күн бұрын
That’s a very rare occurrence though. I mean, when was the last time a new coach and rookie QB did that?
@chadlouis1194
@chadlouis1194 Күн бұрын
@@MrZachgonzcj stroud
@AmazingXpectationz1982
@AmazingXpectationz1982 Күн бұрын
Houston Last Year With DeMeco Ryan's And CJ Stroud u 🤡 🤡
@codylecuyer8313
@codylecuyer8313 Күн бұрын
@@MrZachgonz last year with stroud and then you even see it with some QBs get new coaches in year 2 then make the playoffs like Trevor Lawerence and Jalen Hurts so it’s been more common as of late then not
@tremblemcp
@tremblemcp Күн бұрын
there are plenty of examples of worst to first.. these doods just use the lens of racism...Kraft made a mistake, but he did give dood an opportunity... its the pros and mayo had 0 experience..
@fourscore1964
@fourscore1964 2 күн бұрын
Mayo shouldn't have been hired in the first place, Kraft deserves all the heat for his 1 and done
@tengille
@tengille Күн бұрын
he had it in his contract, for years. for Mayo to not be HC the Pats would have had to buy him out and it was probably too rich for the Kraft's blood, and probably legit wanted to give him a shot. but we can all see they stopped supporting him pretty quick. no new player help other than a rookie QB with zero weapons + O / D line.
@fourscore1964
@fourscore1964 21 сағат бұрын
@tengille no kidding Kraft wasn't willing to buy him out, but he obviously wasnt the right choice going into the year.
@johncoinas
@johncoinas Минут бұрын
No one knows what happened between bill and mayo and kraft and no one will ever know
@bluemoonrpg326
@bluemoonrpg326 Күн бұрын
Vrabel is a name and they have the most cap space. The patriots will be immensely better with a more qualified coach with a proper staff.
@stephensuniverse
@stephensuniverse 2 күн бұрын
Mayo didn’t get fired because he was black, nor did he get fired for press conferences or “not being ready” Kraft likely wanted Vrabel last year but had already locked himself into hiring Mayo years earlier. Mayo simply got caught in the crossfire of an indecisive organization plain and simple
@tos5536
@tos5536 Күн бұрын
Wasn’t Vrabel willing to coach if offered the position this year? Thats what I thought. Not claiming in KNOW. I’m wondering why Bob locked in on Mayo if that were the case.
@stephensuniverse
@stephensuniverse Күн бұрын
@ he locked in on Mayo 5 yrs ago. They put it in his contract that he would succeed Belichick
@tos5536
@tos5536 Күн бұрын
@@stephensuniverse ok. I knew he was hand picked but didn’t know that. Preesh
@jayy88
@jayy88 12 сағат бұрын
Mayo was the punching bag to follow Bill just like Cam was for Brady
@kimberlyjlpitts9862
@kimberlyjlpitts9862 2 күн бұрын
As a lifelong Patriots fan this has nothing to do with race Mayo dropped the ball by trying to be a friend to his players I wish he got more times Vrabel is a proven entity
@garyh7896
@garyh7896 2 күн бұрын
The players lacked discipline and as fans you can see there was no accountability for bad play on the field, players weren’t being developed and he was making bad decisions. Several times the other team got offensive penalties in the red zone and instead of backing the team up and accepting penalty he declined and the other team would score. Then they were not adjusting the game play according to the game or scenarios. These mistakes were frustrating to watch.
@lonnellgrigsby1367
@lonnellgrigsby1367 2 күн бұрын
I believe you Right but the next Tom Brady has not been born yet Buffalo Will control the Division the next 25 years
@buford2138
@buford2138 Күн бұрын
@@garyh7896 why not hire vrabel last year why even disrespect mayo?
@rebel8215
@rebel8215 Күн бұрын
@@buford2138 Because Kraft already had a succession plan in place to hire Mayo.
@garyh7896
@garyh7896 Күн бұрын
@@buford2138​​⁠they couldn’t they had it in Mayo’s contract he would be the successor to Bill… well they probably could have but the buyout of that contract may have been ridiculous with never having the guy as your head coach
@walterhill9642
@walterhill9642 Күн бұрын
I clicked because of the title, and was looking for Patriots content - and it was a Bengals video.
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m Күн бұрын
This is my problem with us as a black community, we can never say said person was more qualified than we are, we always have to throw race in it.
@ptmaica3378
@ptmaica3378 Күн бұрын
I hate it too. But this time may have a point. I’m a Pats fan. And Belicheck with 5-11 the first year. Just ask for a chance. But he messed up big time though
@BlackAnarchist1992
@BlackAnarchist1992 Күн бұрын
It is true that Jerod Mayo was not qualified at all for the head coaching job and with that being said we as black people also at the same time cannot pretend that everything is magically meritocratic either.
@martinhill2506
@martinhill2506 Күн бұрын
And now you have a coach who did absolutely nothing with the titans
@TheSimpleSolutionsMarketingCo
@TheSimpleSolutionsMarketingCo Күн бұрын
@@martinhill2506literally nothing..
@TheSimpleSolutionsMarketingCo
@TheSimpleSolutionsMarketingCo Күн бұрын
You a casual look at bros previous records
@hindsight-gd7bz
@hindsight-gd7bz 2 күн бұрын
“ I’ve never seen a team turn around that fast” did you watch the commanders this year at all Ocho 😂
@HardCold-Alquan
@HardCold-Alquan Күн бұрын
New QB.
@purrsnickety8269
@purrsnickety8269 2 күн бұрын
Drake Maye as a rookie had a horrendous O-Line...no weapons at WR and halfway decent weapons at TE And a head coach that lost the locker room. At the draft he was considered a raw talent with a very high ceiling. Look at Josh Allen...he was a very raw talent...his first couple of years he made some amazing plays and some plays that made you go "wtf were you thinking dude?!"
@Speedyreedy1218
@Speedyreedy1218 9 сағат бұрын
Mac had a bad WR core and oline...still went to the playoffs as a rookie.
@stefansly1990
@stefansly1990 Күн бұрын
Beating Buffalo to lose the draft pick was the final straw for Mayonnaise.
@HardCold-Alquan
@HardCold-Alquan Күн бұрын
Those are the excuses. The final straw was before that anyway. They say that he did not know he was out before the game.
@LukeT84
@LukeT84 2 күн бұрын
Vrabel will get more leeway because he's a former coach of the year and has way more experience than Mayo. When you make things like this about race it impacts actual racism. When you say every single little thing is racist don't blame others when actual racism isn't taken seriously.
@SuperThekid1991
@SuperThekid1991 2 күн бұрын
I agree
@williamthurston7260
@williamthurston7260 2 күн бұрын
RACISM HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PART OF THE EQUATION IN LIFE AND SPORTS 🏈. SAY WHAT YOU WANT.
@Daffy_C
@Daffy_C 2 күн бұрын
Prayers for Robert Brooks....
@mikieedwards28
@mikieedwards28 2 күн бұрын
@@williamthurston7260simple solution is to be elite at your job. Longest tenured coach is black.. Also this specific situation if dif than most. If pats don’t hire him this year he’ll he gone gone
@macalloway1
@macalloway1 2 күн бұрын
​@@mikieedwards28 honestly I believe that mayo was going to be gone for vrable regardless assuming vrable was willing to come. They probably wanted vrable last year. Now saying the solution to not getting fired in your first year is to be élite at your job is ridiculous. What rookie coach should be expected to be élite? I dont think race mattered much in this situation but part of the reason it does matter is how they treat you when you arent élite or really good immediately. These other guys are humanized. They say " well the salary cap limited what the team could do, they started to really get the culture where they wanted it toward the end, he had a young qb" . A lot of blk coaches are judged purely on wins and losses on a year to year basis but that's simply not how business is done in the nfl. Belichick never even gets to be Belichick with those expectations. Neither does bill walsh
@NeoSoulCrew
@NeoSoulCrew 2 күн бұрын
Ocho says hed give a player a blank check but hes known for being a notorious cheapskate.
@7thswordsmenofthemist
@7thswordsmenofthemist Күн бұрын
He saying if he was a billionaire duhhh
@DavidBarton777
@DavidBarton777 17 сағат бұрын
Of course he would It's not his money! lol
@thebeebyboys1751
@thebeebyboys1751 2 күн бұрын
Mayo got fired because he played cards with the players, HE couldn't convert to management
@Biggestkidyouknow
@Biggestkidyouknow 2 күн бұрын
Lmfao no he got fired bc Vrabel wanted the job
@lbonts
@lbonts 2 күн бұрын
@@Biggestkidyouknowvrabel wanted the job last year too
@rebel8215
@rebel8215 Күн бұрын
@@Biggestkidyouknow He got fired because he did NOTHING right.
@lilyflower5895
@lilyflower5895 Күн бұрын
When the locker room cheers for your firing, you know you f'd up as a head coach. Mayo kept disrespecting his players by calling them "soft" without even trying to fix the culture. He only pointed fingers to make himself look superior. He is not a leader. Period.
@deanburrows8355
@deanburrows8355 Күн бұрын
They were soft
@lilyflower5895
@lilyflower5895 17 сағат бұрын
@@deanburrows8355 Maybe, but a competent HC never throws players under the bus, especially when he's had his head up in the clouds the entire time.
@SkyrimChicken
@SkyrimChicken 2 күн бұрын
Vrabel gets more leeway because he's actually coached before. I beg people dont be ignorant and make it about skin
@jonjhon8491
@jonjhon8491 2 күн бұрын
They always do! Someone will be offended I even said "they"
@asahthavoice
@asahthavoice 2 күн бұрын
And he has had an opportunity to coach because of his skin. It is what it is. It's ignorant to think otherwise.
@creationmuse2313
@creationmuse2313 2 күн бұрын
Bill Belichick started off at 5-11! Got many more years to coach after that!🤔
@zakwanelawton3567
@zakwanelawton3567 2 күн бұрын
Why would you get more leeway if you coach for a few years and got fired you guys are saying he was coach before yea a coach that didn’t do a good job 😂😂😂
@zackhurwitz9441
@zackhurwitz9441 2 күн бұрын
​@@asahthavoiceor, because the organization knows him, and hes been a COY before.... Why wasn't it about skin color when Mayo was unilaterally given the job, without interviewing any other candidates and he had no coordinating experience?
@Qpxy7
@Qpxy7 2 күн бұрын
The idea that there are “Great Organizations” are a lie. The Great organization is the player and the coach. Look at what happened to the Patriots after Tom left. You think the Chiefs are still gonna be a S tier organization after Mahomes and Andy Reid retire? Look at the Lakers after Kobe left/When Kobe got hurt towards the end of his career. So many examples we can go through.
@patrickjeffers7864
@patrickjeffers7864 2 күн бұрын
Bulls still ain't recovered from the mj era, despite a flash or two
@Qpxy7
@Qpxy7 2 күн бұрын
@ yup that’s another great example. They could’ve had something with D Rose but he got hurt. Really in the almost 30 years since Jordan was gone, it’s just the D Rose era and nothing else
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m Күн бұрын
Look at the Warriors?
@Qpxy7
@Qpxy7 Күн бұрын
@ you mean the Joe Lacob and the Bob Myers that can’t get Steph any help since KD? Steph’s second best player in the 2022 finals run was Andrew Wiggins. I mean damn. What do you think is gonna happen when Steph leaves? They ain’t going nowhere especially with all the draft misses they’ve had.
@deanburrows8355
@deanburrows8355 Күн бұрын
Agree but the lakers have a long history before Kobe bad example.
@BushNinja141
@BushNinja141 2 күн бұрын
First off the reason the pats got rid of mayo is because he called the players lazy come on man. It wasn’t because of his record. They knew they were gonna have a crappy record this year.
@Kingchris4life
@Kingchris4life Күн бұрын
Omg he called out players…like you can’t be serious he isn’t the first coach to bash his players…accountability is lacking with your mindset
@michaelturner9443
@michaelturner9443 2 күн бұрын
Ocho drinking bottle in a brown bag😂😂😂
@markusstevensakabiginfinit9523
@markusstevensakabiginfinit9523 Күн бұрын
It's a 40 too 😅
@christopherwilkins6551
@christopherwilkins6551 2 күн бұрын
I wish the patriots would move on from the past. They had a helluva dynasty. But lest be real, they’re never going to recapture that moment no matter how many ex patriots they hire. New era, new culture.
@number3stunner118
@number3stunner118 2 күн бұрын
Vrabel is actually a good coach. He has flaws, but he's good. McDaniels might help make things stable on offense.
@7thswordsmenofthemist
@7thswordsmenofthemist Күн бұрын
Why wud a 5 time superbowl winning owner take advice from you 🤣😂😂🤣😂😂😂😂
@mattnelson6774
@mattnelson6774 5 сағат бұрын
Vrabel is qualified to be a head coach unlike Mayo
@7thswordsmenofthemist
@7thswordsmenofthemist 4 сағат бұрын
@mattnelson6774 how does a rando person on the comments with zero sports credibility say an ex player who was coordinator isn't qualified Lmaooo he way more qualified to be a coach then you are to speak on who shud be Lol he has accolades and accomplishments you get none of those by watching games on the couch and sucking at sports 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
@mattnelson6774
@mattnelson6774 3 сағат бұрын
@7thswordsmenofthemist Bro mad af projecting his insecurities on people in youtube comments I don't need credibility to state my opinion on who I think will be the better coach for the team I root for Vrable has 6 years of experience as a head coach and he’s a former coach of the year winner meanwhile Mayo is linebackers coach lmaooo facts are facts
@freshboy865
@freshboy865 Күн бұрын
I wish people who don’t watch the Pats would at least do their due diligence before talking about them…..
@brockjensen2473
@brockjensen2473 18 сағат бұрын
Woah there unc, huge difference in what you’re talking about. Mayo didn’t get fired just because the team was bad, he got fired because he lost the locker room. He went into public press conferences time and time again and threw the players and coaching staff under the bus to try covering his own ass. I’m the biggest pats fan on the planet and I couldn’t be more grateful for what Mayo did for us as a player but as a head coach he was terrible. What’s the 1 constant we see across ALL great head coaches? In public press conferences when their team loses they take the blame, when their team wins they credit the team. It’s your job to have that team ready to play week to week. If you don’t think your team is playing hard you address that to your team, you don’t go in a press conference and say “we’re a soft football team”. Well damn, you’re the coach; why is your team looking soft? Because they’re unprepared game to game which is the responsibility of the coach. You want to know the fastest way to lose a teams respect? By not only failing to take responsibility but taking it a step further and publicly putting the blame on others. Shannon I have heard you hundreds of times say you were fine with criticism if a coach went about it the right way. Mayo disrespectfully criticized the entire roster in the worst possible way in attempt to make himself look better. I don’t know unc personally but I know for damn sure if a coach publicly disrespectfully criticized him several times in attempt to save face for himself he woulda lost all respect for that coach. That’s why Jared got fired
@A_New_Wavy
@A_New_Wavy 2 күн бұрын
The Texans turned around immediately last year from the year before. From one of the worst teams to a playoff team
@Garlin-g8l
@Garlin-g8l 18 сағат бұрын
DeMeco Ryans is a good coach.
@robertdowner4057
@robertdowner4057 2 күн бұрын
A. Buffalo IS beatable. We have beaten them with Mac for gods sakes. B. Mayo was let go because of MANY things, not just the record....
@shadow_td
@shadow_td Күн бұрын
You beat buffalo WITHOUT allen calm yourself😂
@robertdowner4057
@robertdowner4057 Күн бұрын
@@shadow_td Is reading hard for you or something? "We have beaten them with Mac for gods sakes." ummm that was not this season......
@H843-op5pn
@H843-op5pn 23 сағат бұрын
Facts my fellow pats fan......!
@Speedyreedy1218
@Speedyreedy1218 9 сағат бұрын
​@shadow_td Allen was playing when Mac beat them. Both times actually. In Buffalo, and NE.
@DemonsDEs
@DemonsDEs 19 сағат бұрын
Do they not realized they only won like 3-4 games with Mayo and got progressively worse as the season went on. His bread and butter was supposed to be the defense and they didn’t really do much this year.
@ArchibaldNorman-vl5ci
@ArchibaldNorman-vl5ci 2 күн бұрын
Wonderful video! I always enjoy your work. Keep it up!
@Garlin-g8l
@Garlin-g8l 19 сағат бұрын
Vrabel won in Tennessee until his last season or two. He is a proven head coach. I was shocked that they gave Mayo the job to begin with.
@jayy88
@jayy88 11 сағат бұрын
He took over a winning team
@JamesBerry-s7v
@JamesBerry-s7v Күн бұрын
Real leaders don't point fingers
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 2 күн бұрын
2:02 thing I will say Vrabel has more cache as a HC and proven experience with Mayo, Mayo was a risky hire and the team ended up having an awful year so not surprised the change was made It was a boom or bust hire especially following Bill
@dianayount2122
@dianayount2122 2 күн бұрын
Look at Dan Campbell's 1st year? Sheila was patient. Turnarounds take time.
@asahthavoice
@asahthavoice 2 күн бұрын
@@dianayount2122 he was crying and everything at press conferences lmao.
@justinmailloux3799
@justinmailloux3799 2 күн бұрын
Did you watch the Pats? Did you watch the press conferences after the games? The issue was there was no development throughout the year. The defense got worse and mutiny almost happened within a month of his tenure. When you hear Dan Campbell talk during his first year press conferences he took all the blame. Mayo is throwing everyone under the bus to make him look better. Dan was inspiring his team while Mayo was creating issues and deflating his team.
@jdavis448
@jdavis448 2 күн бұрын
​@@justinmailloux3799so because you say an almost mutiny, does that make the players right❓ did you hear of a mutiny any other time while he was coaching that the players weren't feeling him❓ you're the pats fan I wouldn't know.
@YanalFanio
@YanalFanio 2 күн бұрын
Your dedication really shines in every video. Awesome work!
@djthomas4112
@djthomas4112 2 күн бұрын
Washington fan here , anything can happen with a coach getting a second chance
@ONGEES
@ONGEES 2 күн бұрын
Vrabel couldn’t turn around Tennessee when they were bad, so how they expect him to turn the patriots around?
@Alwaysbelieve619
@Alwaysbelieve619 2 күн бұрын
He took them to the AFC Champion with Ryan Tannehill. What the hell are you talking about 😂
@MrExoticDemon
@MrExoticDemon 2 күн бұрын
His GM also traded away his best player lol(aside from Henry). Plus they were to good to draft a good Qb but too bad to be good
@PrincejayFit
@PrincejayFit 2 күн бұрын
Vrabel did turn them around, they were the best they been in years because of him. He got them to the playoffs even beat Brady in the playoffs also his last game as a patriot.
@ONGEES
@ONGEES 2 күн бұрын
@ he did but after the 2021 season, his team declined every year. Go look it up!
@shadow_td
@shadow_td 2 күн бұрын
And where they at since he left? He tool them to the playoffs with a bum for a qb...
@donyacevedo5612
@donyacevedo5612 2 күн бұрын
3:31 they can turn it around and win more games next szn. They have a proven head coach, most cap space, a franchise QB, and a massive market in the Boston. They will turn it around. I’m Dan Quinn’s first year as the Commanders head coach he was able to take a dog piss commanders team that had the second overall pick to the playoffs.
@deanburrows8355
@deanburrows8355 Күн бұрын
You must be crazy
@svcoffey
@svcoffey 2 күн бұрын
Regardless of what Mike Vrable does, he will get more than 1 year to try and turn the Patriots around.
@HawaiianStyle808
@HawaiianStyle808 2 күн бұрын
Because of his skin
@justinmailloux3799
@justinmailloux3799 2 күн бұрын
Well at least Vrable won’t throw everyone under the bus like Mayo did at press conferences. Mayo isn’t a leader yet
@svcoffey
@svcoffey 2 күн бұрын
​@justinmailloux3799 I'm not a Patriots fan, so I'm not sure about any of that. But what I do know is that a many coach has thrown people under the bus and given more that 1 year.
@drago990
@drago990 Күн бұрын
@@svcoffeyRight you didn’t watch them every week so you wouldn’t understand that it was more than just them losing for why Mayo got fired
@bigaesswangmane7804
@bigaesswangmane7804 Күн бұрын
@@HawaiianStyle808 Yes the NFL is racist, and you're still gonna watch it while complaining 🤡
@SuSpEct63
@SuSpEct63 2 күн бұрын
Vrabel is an actual coach Nayo had zero coaching experience it instantly upgrades them stop the cap
@enochangbongy3206
@enochangbongy3206 Күн бұрын
😂 he on BB staff before he replaced him
@MrCorner21
@MrCorner21 2 күн бұрын
As a Titans fan, I liked the grit and fight of Vrabel teams...but there are 2 issues the Pats might run into. Vrabel leans on a very old school philosophy which can be cute at first with a young team, but it has a very finite ceiling in today's NFL. He's not bringing Derrick Henry with him, who really allowed us to get away with that style of play. And the second thing is that he took over a young roster which made the playoffs the year before he came...as that talent phased out, Vrabel wasn't able to build up that next wave of youngsters to the winning level again. He had a lot of say in our personnel, as I'm sure he will in NE
@CJfromMEXICO
@CJfromMEXICO 2 күн бұрын
the whole reason he left was the AJ Brown situation, because he had little say in the matter
@MrCorner21
@MrCorner21 2 күн бұрын
@CJfromMEXICO he got fired two years after AJ left
@CJfromMEXICO
@CJfromMEXICO 2 күн бұрын
@ because he was right
@MrCorner21
@MrCorner21 Күн бұрын
@@CJfromMEXICO you're making no sense...he wasn't fired for going 14-20 in two years, he was fired because he was right about AJ?
@CJfromMEXICO
@CJfromMEXICO Күн бұрын
@@MrCorner21 they didn’t allow him to make personnel decisions and the team paid for it.
@devthehitman8689
@devthehitman8689 2 күн бұрын
Patriots need to draft Tet with 4th pick focus on the O line in free agency
@djgottastrap_8375
@djgottastrap_8375 Күн бұрын
Nah Abdul cater our pash rush is poor
@squishy1624
@squishy1624 2 күн бұрын
$130M CAP SPACE??? why aren’t they signing?? wtf, they could sign a whole new team with all that money, and they wouldn’t need to extend Drake Maye for years to come PLUS they also have Milton as a backup who is also a rookie. Pats can have a resurgence if they spend that money right. plus it helps they get a early draft pick this year
@dante040
@dante040 2 күн бұрын
Nobody wanted to sign last year. Brandon Ayuk took less money to resign with 49ers. Hopefully with Drake Maye emerging as a legit QB option WR will be more receptive
@michaelroelant7134
@michaelroelant7134 Күн бұрын
Players are scared they gonna arrive in a dumpster fire...not all players have the dsvante adams mentality and go play in a dumpsterfire with grandpa rodgers
@dproukous1570
@dproukous1570 Күн бұрын
They jumped the gun with Mayo & put him as successor & had to make him coach.Wanted Varbel last year but had to honor mayo contact
@ternbug100
@ternbug100 2 күн бұрын
What makes this guy "Mr Kraft"? MFs been Rob Kraft since that mug shot! 😂
@drk2227
@drk2227 2 күн бұрын
Tee ain’t getting anywhere close to that lmao
@E3_-
@E3_- 15 сағат бұрын
We got the easiest schedule next year saying we won’t win 5+ games is crazy
@LEMATTOFFICIAL
@LEMATTOFFICIAL Күн бұрын
Great move by the Patriots now what they need is an offensive coordinator
@thisguy4608
@thisguy4608 2 күн бұрын
Always the race card instead of actually looking at why he got fired 😂
@91djstar
@91djstar Күн бұрын
Being a rookie coach with a trash team? I ain't saying it's race that got him fired, but let's be real. No coach walking this earth would be able to get that team to .500, much less the playoffs. Kraft wanted Vrabel, and Mayo got the short end. Period.
@thisguy4608
@thisguy4608 Күн бұрын
@ he wasn’t fired cause of the loses those just didn’t help the situation
@91djstar
@91djstar Күн бұрын
@@thisguy4608 I agree. He was mostly fired because they wanted Vrabel. Anything short of making the playoffs was getting him fired in this scenario, which wasn't happening with this team. He did no better or worse than any rookie coach in his situation has done.
@HgTyrantula
@HgTyrantula 2 күн бұрын
As a longtime patriots fan who is black. It really made me upset on how quick they fired Mayo. Mayo was terrible in Press conferences, but like the operation here this year was not great. When BB left he didn't really train anyone up to be ready. I think once Vrabel said he wanted the job. They decided they were firing Mayo.
@shadow_td
@shadow_td 2 күн бұрын
All,reports of bill said mayo was basically learning to TAKE OVER when bill left...
@HgTyrantula
@HgTyrantula 2 күн бұрын
@ So more stuff came out. Basically Kraft had to tell BB that Mayo should be in more stuff. BB was very reluctant to include Mayo in anything. Later years of BB was all nepotism hires.
@zackhurwitz9441
@zackhurwitz9441 2 күн бұрын
​@@HgTyrantulathey had a written agreement to hire him, 5 years before they FIRED Belichick. The dude has been in NE his entire professional life. How he wasn't still ready is anyone's guess, but these excuses are just getting insane. "Belichick wouldn't get him ready.... What? You want him to teach him how to tune his headset too? 😂
@TraumaTizedLOL1
@TraumaTizedLOL1 2 күн бұрын
Well Vrabel is actually good. Mayo isn’t at least at this point in his career
@iBeHampe
@iBeHampe 2 күн бұрын
Mayo was a terrible coach, and was horrible in press conferences. They never should have hired him. His skin color isn’t the reason Mayo was fired, but it was the reason he was hired.
@dantheman8152
@dantheman8152 2 күн бұрын
Pats refuse to go outside their comfort zone. They will probably hire McDaniels as offensive coordinator lol Patriot Way
@nvmm166
@nvmm166 2 күн бұрын
Won them more championships in 20 years then your entire franchise 😂
@daniel-jm7lj
@daniel-jm7lj Күн бұрын
Let's be real mayo couldn't handle the job he was absolutely clueless
@BeanTwnJ
@BeanTwnJ 3 сағат бұрын
Pats are absolutely back! May take a few seasons but it will be noticeably different than how it was the last couple years!
@LethalLatin
@LethalLatin Күн бұрын
Vrabel took over a playoff team with the Titans and each year gradually gave away our best players and when Vrabel had full control he only won 7 games in 2 years. Now he takes over a 4-12 team…. This will be interesting
@thickneck
@thickneck Күн бұрын
Who did he give away? Because AJ brown wasn’t his doing
@LethalLatin
@LethalLatin Күн бұрын
@ AJ yea wasn’t Vrabels fault I will agree to that but our 2020 team was where he and John Robinson decided to flip ship and give away our best players. After Lewan had retired and they still did that. Not smart. Our Draft picks were terrible, Panda 🐼, Vrabes traded away two O linemen from the 2020 team and Henry’s 2k season for picks
@LethalLatin
@LethalLatin Күн бұрын
@ also Vrabel won 6 games not 7 that was my bad
@LethalLatin
@LethalLatin Күн бұрын
@ also his draft picks were hit and miss. Like really good or just very terrible there was no middle. We had more terrible draft picks than good ones
@TF_PATRIOT
@TF_PATRIOT Күн бұрын
He said he’s never seen turn around happen that fast… as he’s talking on and off about Washington. Washington went from 4-13 to 12-5 after adding Dan Quinn and Kingsbury.
@rontaygrayson4462
@rontaygrayson4462 Сағат бұрын
You can tell who didn’t watch the pats. Mayo didn’t get fired because of losses . It was the other stuff
@C-majorr
@C-majorr Күн бұрын
Patriots conversation turned into bengals conversation
@beast-mode115
@beast-mode115 Күн бұрын
I don’t see why people call Vrabel a great coach! I’m a Titans fan and when he took over as HC the Titans had a record of 12-5 the year before. We had beat Kansas City in the playoffs. So when he came in, we were a playoff team already. With Derrick Henry and AJ Brown! Coming into New England having to rebuild from scratch should be interesting!
@kevinhuffman9765
@kevinhuffman9765 Күн бұрын
Chad.... we as Raiders fans gladly passes on Varbel!!!
@jpal1993
@jpal1993 18 сағат бұрын
The only place Josh McDaniels can have success when he’s not calling all the shots and that’s been proven. That’s what we have to stand on. That’s the only thing that floats he’s had a plethora of success with Brady, Cassel, Jones, and even Newton, whose time in New England was some of the more fonder things we remember as fans.
@erl-qe9qf
@erl-qe9qf Күн бұрын
Sadly, Jerod’s zero head coaching experience couldn’t be overcome. The team was undisciplined (how many drives killed by penalties), fundamentally unsound, and never showed real confidence or consistency. Felt like I was watching a JV team playing the Varsity opponents. Mayo should be humble enough to realize the truth. Also, don’t forget that arrogant Bill Belichick left things a mess and in disarray.
@oluseunduro-emanuel1412
@oluseunduro-emanuel1412 Күн бұрын
If this was the Houston, there will be more outrage. This was their plan, but Mayo contract meant the had to make him a head coach. RK is the same as all the other
@tylervincent8424
@tylervincent8424 38 минут бұрын
You can tell neither of these guys have watched a single Pats game this year. I miss Shannon with Skip. I like Ocho, but he seems to never know what he’s talking about.
@alexshapiro6812
@alexshapiro6812 16 сағат бұрын
ITS ABOUT CULTURE! NOT ABOUT RECORD. MAYO PUT HIS FOOT IN HIS MOUTH EVERY TIME HE SPOKE TO THE MEDIA!!!
@marcuslancaster4326
@marcuslancaster4326 Күн бұрын
As much as I hoped for Mayo to be successful, he was an inexperienced DC getting a HC job after one of the greatest NFL coaches of all time. The writing was on the wall for Jerod unfortunately. I think he was a little too transparent with the media and kind of a little too happy to be there
@hisstoryblack8270
@hisstoryblack8270 Күн бұрын
He had 5 years to get ready to be a HC there is no way he shouldn’t have went 4 and 13
@shenanigansx1888
@shenanigansx1888 15 сағат бұрын
Ocho said he hasn’t seen a quick turn around, did he see the chargers with Harbaugh this year? Completely different team.
@dame-t8f
@dame-t8f 20 сағат бұрын
Matty P and Judge coached offense in 22 and Bill O’Brien in 23 and Alex VP 24
@mikegiga8265
@mikegiga8265 Күн бұрын
I do not get the giving a coach 1 year and done unless they were the interim coach. They haven't even had time to build a team to their style. I can't see blaming everything on Mayo when we had so many holes to be filled. That being said, I wanted Vrabel to get the job last year. Because he had HC experience.
@franchiselofton4998
@franchiselofton4998 2 күн бұрын
Pats let's go!! Time to turn dis mess around and start winning again💪🏾💯#Patsnation#617
@lorenzosorice
@lorenzosorice Күн бұрын
Unc just ignoring Cincy will have a new DC. They've devoted the last few drafts on the defense. And there's a draft in a few months when it comes to Tee... Come on man...they supposed to take a 180 on the offensive scheme?
@GABECAMPBELL
@GABECAMPBELL Күн бұрын
You say they can’t turn it around. Washington turned in around in one year. Huston turned it around. Vrabel is a proven coach and had the #1 seed with Ryan Tannehill at QB
@Octavis-o9l
@Octavis-o9l Күн бұрын
These ridiculous salaries for WR need to stop, if teams continue down this path NFL teams won’t have a roster longevity. Putting all your money into one stock is foolish and reckless behavior.
@kerryboyd5037
@kerryboyd5037 9 сағат бұрын
Mr. Kraft has SADENLY turned into the NEW Jerry Jones.
@Semajmoore-z8q
@Semajmoore-z8q Күн бұрын
When my homie big Red Andy Ried went to Kansas City Chiefs he turned that team completely around. They had One win the season before he got there so a Good New head coach can make a very Big difference 😁👍🏽.
@deanburrows8355
@deanburrows8355 Күн бұрын
Not the same players as the previoua year, try again.
@ka74
@ka74 16 сағат бұрын
Mayo wasn't prepared (his issue) to perform in the role. Maye is a legit starter and can grow into a good QB - athletic, good arm, smart, competitive. Get a legit LT, a legit #1 WR and more depth at DT / OL and this is a team that can make the playoffs. Over the next 2 years, add more CB/OL/DL/WR skill positions and this can be a good team for the next 3-5 years and compete for a Lombardi.
@tonymcclendon3128
@tonymcclendon3128 2 күн бұрын
Ocho said 200 million for Tee
@darkdavey
@darkdavey Күн бұрын
Calling Bill on his Patricia OC shit and RUINING Mac Jones, Finally. Earned my sub
@jgadventures4161
@jgadventures4161 Күн бұрын
Mayo is an all time favorite player for me but he needs to be a defense coach and learn the job the pats didn't make the right call hiring him
@jesuslikesmetal
@jesuslikesmetal Күн бұрын
I would really like to see Josh return as OC
@crispy84
@crispy84 Күн бұрын
Commanders just turned around from 4 wins to what they did this season Ocho smh
@paulonikit
@paulonikit Күн бұрын
Mayo’s lack of accountability was his doom.
@kc2pro
@kc2pro Күн бұрын
They fired the HC to get Vrabel. Did they interview anyone else?
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m Күн бұрын
Also Mike Varbel has coaching experience from his time with the Titans.
@deanburrows8355
@deanburrows8355 Күн бұрын
What was his record??
@bigjack79
@bigjack79 Күн бұрын
Mayo wasn’t fired because of his record. He loss the locker room. Come on night cap, if I’m able to get this information from the few people that I know, I know you all know it. But I get it. You don’t want to damage his reputation.
@devin9522
@devin9522 2 күн бұрын
Let’s see how many losing seasons Vrabel will get to endure 😂😂😂
@CJfromMEXICO
@CJfromMEXICO 2 күн бұрын
1 or none, we have the foundation but need the supporting cast. we got the most freed up salary cap and the 4th pick in the draft
@benjaminwilliams8283
@benjaminwilliams8283 Күн бұрын
I love Chad drinking out the brown paper bag. Can we get him a drink deal call brown paper bag brandy?
@ESTxxThorr
@ESTxxThorr 2 күн бұрын
I don’t think people understand giving a coach 1 year isn’t fair regardless of race, We knew the patriots weren’t a good team and Mayo was used by the organization simple as that, so hell yeah if Vrabel doesn’t win 5 or more games, He should be gone
@iCruzPR
@iCruzPR Күн бұрын
commanders turned it around that fast this year alone. Cinco just be talking
@markburn4943
@markburn4943 2 күн бұрын
If that's who they wanted to begin with they should not have wasted that black man's time
@kazzd58
@kazzd58 2 күн бұрын
He got paid though 🤷🏾‍♂️ it’s how it goes
@zackhurwitz9441
@zackhurwitz9441 2 күн бұрын
They had a written contract to hire Mayo after Belichick was fired.
@shadow_td
@shadow_td 2 күн бұрын
Boohoo he's getting paid millions foe the next 3 years... What a horrible tragedy
@nvmm166
@nvmm166 2 күн бұрын
They also gave an opportunity to a black man…. And will pay him for the next two years for doing nothing😂😂😂😂 there’s a reason you don’t understand what’s going on😂😂😂
@donsulli2439
@donsulli2439 Күн бұрын
You were there?​@@zackhurwitz9441
@MrExoticDemon
@MrExoticDemon 2 күн бұрын
Wait Tank Dell was a 2nd or 3rd rounder. Nico literally hasn’t been anything his whole career. Dalton shows flashes of being good and then disappears. Let’s not do that Stroud had weapons
@asahthavoice
@asahthavoice 2 күн бұрын
@@MrExoticDemon they always do when it comes to blk Qbs.
@PrincejayFit
@PrincejayFit 2 күн бұрын
2nd and 3rd rounders can’t be good players????? This ain’t the nba
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m Күн бұрын
The Patriots had a great run from 2000-2019 22 division titles 11 conference championships 9 Super Bowl appearances 6 Super Bowl wins They need to move on and start a new era.
@michaelroelant7134
@michaelroelant7134 Күн бұрын
There are a lot of teams who wants a dynasty atm chiefs are good but can they contain it?pats were great i´m pats anx cards fan😮
@hisstoryblack8270
@hisstoryblack8270 Күн бұрын
Mayo was let go because it was a mistake to hire him in the first place
@BadmanMC407
@BadmanMC407 Күн бұрын
Ocho cant hide how much he dont like that drink lol I dont blame him
@donscoopez3942
@donscoopez3942 Күн бұрын
He’s never turned a franchise around at head coach wtf are we talking about here 🤣🤣🤣
@lhamarurbina9549
@lhamarurbina9549 2 күн бұрын
Does Ocho know who Mike Vrable is? Has Ocho watched the Titans since Vrable’s been gone? Does Ocho know that Vrable was a coach of the year?
@jonfromsyracuse
@jonfromsyracuse 4 сағат бұрын
Jerod Mayo got fired because the team looked exponentially worse after 17 games - the team didn’t look better.
@sheloveyaboix8008
@sheloveyaboix8008 16 сағат бұрын
Us drafted dumb last yr getting two QBs 2Wrs 1TE only good in it was the two QBs
@HardCold-Alquan
@HardCold-Alquan Күн бұрын
If Chad gives me a blank check, he will really be down to ocho cinco!
@toddwinegar7365
@toddwinegar7365 Күн бұрын
Titans fan here. I haven't watched a game since we fired Coach Vrabel! Our front office doesn't know what they are doing! We have became a joke of an organization! I know many other Titan fans whom feel the same way I do! It's just one bad move after another! They don't know how to build a team, I bet we end up with a top 3 pick next year as well. I fear there is no Jayden Daniel's or CJ Stroud in this draft. Heck there isn't even a Caleb Williams or Drake May in this class. Watch we will rake a QB at 1, instead of doing anything smart or strategic with it! We just pick whomever looks best at the combine /pro day! How did it come to this?
@DONOVANSHANNON-m8f
@DONOVANSHANNON-m8f Күн бұрын
Tunsill made the Pro Bowl again this year Unc
@antcantcook960
@antcantcook960 Күн бұрын
Vrabel has 2 playoff wins, what exactly are we supposed to be excited about?
@WizCiva
@WizCiva Күн бұрын
What’s that Ocho drinking out of that brown paper bag??
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