Plasma Generated Water Gas (Electrically Produced Fuel That Is Not HHO)

In this video I use a carbon arc torch to rapidly produce a flamable gas from water that is not Oxy/Hydrogen. The patent this process comes from can be found here: patents.google...
(Thank you Riley Courtier for sending this idea my way!)
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[@Nighthawkinlight]

I will be interested if any of you know of a simple method to separate the mixture of gasses that this process creates.

[@celivalg]

well you could lower them to -195°c where carbon monoxyde would be liquid and dihydrogen still a gas, but that would be tricky

[@maizedong9729]

Was the gas chlorine

[@bryanhumphreys940]

Molecular sieve maybe, even something like a balloon might work. It would be slow though.

[@boxr_4214]

maybe using density? i would figure out how to calculate the amount of carbon vs h2O produced and then figure out where the line between h2 and CO would be on the container. then use some kind of valve to purge off the amount of hydrogen slowly.

[@Zanthum]

Molecular sieve like oxygen concentrators (the medical device might be easier to get ahold of) and liquid nitrogen generators use maybe?

[@Guit4rh3r00]

electrocution, blindness, AND poisoning? time to try one of these projects and i think this is the one!

[@alanacartes3382]

Likewise! I need to get my carbon arc torch built first.

[@kistuszek]

Totally forgot the exploosion! The best part.

[@zenithparsec]

he forgot to add '"and the chance to burn/explode yourself with flammable gases."

[@Russo-Delenda-Est]

@@Boerkie1990 Not entirely sure what you mean by that friend. (College trained welder here) it's not only possible to be electrocuted by a welder, it's a very real danger if you not very carefull.

[@BioluminescenceOfTheSpirit]

@@Russo-Delenda-Est Someone tried to shock me with a welder & nothing happened (not under salt water) What were they doing wrong?

[@MelTheFunkyHomosapien]

Its crazy to see how far you've come. I"ve been watching for ages and been enjoying the evolution of your channel... Way back when, I actually requested you make your star mine tutorial, and you actually did it! Inspired my interest in pyrotechnics and i don't doubt that's why i am now studying chemistry. Thanks and keep it up!

[@ProlificInvention]

So who's going to run a small engine on this? *Project Farm*

[@AbjectPermanence]

What kind of engine does it to take to run on a fuel mixture like this? You couldn't just put it into a typical gasoline engine, right?

[@drackar]

I knew a guy who had a similar setup as the "air intake" for his BMW, supplementing normal fuel. He got crazy high mileage out of it.

[@ProlificInvention]

@@AbjectPermanence You most likely could, *Project Farm* has run engines on many fuels you wouldn't think possible.

[@Amipotsophspond]

@@AbjectPermanence able to work and runs well are two vastly different things hear in Oklahoma people convert their Trucks to run on CNG(compressed natural gas(methane)) sure it's cheaper to run but it's really hard on the engine and kills it's life, but that is frequently someone else's problem.

[@charleslambert3368]

This isn't that different from a wood/coal gasifier. Used to run busses off coal gas during the war, back when all the proper fuel was needed for tanks and spitfires.

[@kevinmarrs3372]

The process you’ve demonstrated here is the same reaction that occurs on an industrial scale to make CO and H2 from coal and water. Look up process called steam reformation. This process also works using natural gas instead of coal. You may want to try the process in a future video using some natural gas and water together and then applying the high heat from the arc. Would be interesting to see the results.

[@tomh2628]

Here's a probably wrong guess but maybe the gas could be some sort of hydrocarbon from the carbon rods and the hydrogen in the water

[@tomh2628]

Well I was sort of close. Cool video though!

[@bearcatben4762]

Yeah my guess was Oxygen and Methane

[@yaykruser]

Bearcat Ben Mine too, but when you think about it, Methane burns in Oxygen, so the carbon Atom would rater have the Oxygen bound to it than the Hydrogen.

[@karlharvymarx2650]

He made Syngas. I'd be slightly surprised if there isn't some hydrocarbon contamination in his gas. If he got the arc going in it, it may randomly produce hydrocarbons. Add some nitrogen, sulfur, a pinch of phosphorus and maybe a couple of other ingredients, and the arc would make some of the building blocks of life, like amino and nucleic acids, proteins, maybe lipids and misc. UVC light might be a better way though, a little gentler so it might not rip stuff apart as quickly as it is stuck together. Something like that is thought to be why some asteroids have some of that essential to life gunk. Such gunk, plus time, might be where life started on Earth.

[@jonross377]

@@karlharvymarx2650 GOD started life on Earth. Your welcome.

[@timeorspace]

Yes! As a person who has had an opportunity to build and start up a Fischer Tropsch reactor, I love learning about this home brewed syngas generator! After a few decades pondering the energy/environment/civilization crisis, I believe Civilization needs to get in more touch with synthetic carbon fuels for energy storage, Rock on!

[@joshuadefibaugh3634]

*makes video on high power cannons *makes videos on carbon arch torches "Okay, this one is dangerous."

[@nou5440]

cant like cause 69

[@hunterjackson802]

Make your wood gasifier as efficient as possible, make a couple different types of condensers, filters and purifiers to see how clean you can get the end product. It would be really cool to test different batches using different types of woods, setups and see if the burn or color change.

[@AgentWest]

Thank you for going in detail and explaining what's actually happening. Have seen way too many over-hyped HHO bubbles where the guy will be pumping a bunch of electricity into the gas generator, boiling the water, and boasting about how much "HHO gas" his generator is producing. Also decided to figure out how efficient your plasma separator is and provided my 3-am math is correct you got 80 watts worth of gas for 120 watts worth of electricity, giving this particular setup about a 66% efficiency. Numbers I used for that educated guess are as follows: Power input --- 150A (proclaimed) welder output at 20V (average voltage for those amps in stick welding) running for 25 seconds (timed from video). Power output --- 20 liter of gas (estimated volume from what looks like a 15 cm collector that raises about 15 cm) rounded up to 1 mole of mix (22.4 liters) that produces 80 watt/hours when burned.

[@justincase1898]

Nice... i wonder what the conversion rate back would be... time to build a steam turbine and/or engine

[@HopMan-lj3xl]

People: How safe is this experiment? NightHawkinLight: Yes

[@opt-o-ops7271]

NIghtHawkinLight: Well yes, but actually no

[@Zpicismrad]

haha you made le "yes" meme

[@attomic5319]

That's not how this meme template works

[@hunterjackson802]

How dangerous*

[@Barskor1]

@@hunterjackson802 Yes

[@kdawg3484]

Interesting experiment. Probably one of the most inefficient methods possible to create syngas. As a chemical engineer, I cringe a little bit at using syngas as just fuel. It's the precursor to a huge variety of chemical products from ammonia to methanol to Fischer-Tropsch gas-to-liquids products. An absolutely enormous amount of the world's energy goes into making that combination of H2 and CO. Now I'm curious what you could actually do with your small amount of atmospheric pressure syngas besides burn it. I've designed industrial scale low-pressure syngas plants, but I wonder what a hobbyist could do. I'll have to check some of my books.

[@RileyCourtier]

I thought if some of the heat and light energy was recaptured, this would be a good generation method, but it's starting to dawn on me that it's still way too energy intensive to justify at an industrial scale. It's still a fun problem to me though haha.

[@boxr_4214]

it would be interesting to test how efficient this is at storing energy. i'd assume it to be relatively inefficient compared to other methods but this is very cool.

[@__WJK__]

A hint re solar was given in the first video, which would actually greatly enhance efficiency.

[@twanvl]

It is not a 100% energy storage method, since the carbon electrodes are consumed, and they turn into CO2 when the CO is burned. So you are still burning carbon, only in two steps.

[@jelteklaswijnja4055]

@@twanvl also- the water was heated up significantly during the process, which in most situations would be waste heat.

[@DeCha1011]

@@Derived_One Potential energy - pump type hydroelectric plants, which work like any other hydroelectric plant (dam, difference of levels, water goes down from above, passes through a turbine, boom). They have, however a possibility to pump water upwards when there is lower demand for electricity in the grid and releasing them when the demand is higher. They play a great role in stabilising the power grid actually. Big downside - size, cost and need for water reservoir - not too many places you can build that, and if you can, the local environmental impact is very high. The efficiency comes from the fact, that there is not much energy loss when pumping a liquid - and large machines are generally more efficient than small ones, so overall efficiency goes quite high.| Fun fact - in such plants the turbine can work as pump and a generator as motor. No need for separate pump units. Hope I have interested you a bit in the topic (of course if you did not know this already :D )

[@azz2]

@@Derived_One when enough electric cars are on the grid that will be a pretty efficient short term store. Long term storage would really be chemical or potential.

[@lokeshgnanasekar]

This man is the person every educational institute needs. Another impressive video Sir!!!!

[@electronicsNmore]

Love these experiments! 👍👍

[@ElementalMaker]

Absolutely incredible! I had no idea that the heat of an arc could be used in this way! I was wondering about striking an arc underwater though, and glad I didn't, I had no idea CO gas would be generated.

[@dantronics1682]

dont be fooled, oh you already were? I was going to ask if you have heard of underwater welding but you were already fooled

[@Muonium1]

I know that the main products are monoxide and hydrogen, but the super high temperatures of electrical arcs are strange things and can produce unexpected complexity. I would like to see the product gas run through a mass spec to see what trace species were also produced. I bet you would see some methane, ethylene, acetylene, maybe even ethane in there. Recall that a simple spark in an atmosphere of hydrogen, water and ammonia produces a rich array of amino acids (Urey-Miller). I don't think anything as complex as that is being created in a setup like this (no time for it), but all the same, I bet there are interesting complex trace components in that gas, perhaps even exotic things like endohedral fullerenes.

[@shannondove96]

Muonium when i used to arc charcoal under water , the bubbles did have a very strange smell to them.

[@ricardasist]

Had the same expectation

[@Syniurge]

The proportion of acetylene might be significant, considering that passing hydrogen inside a carbon rod electric arc is how acetylene was first synthesized.

[@wilfreddv]

Especially mixing in the fact he's using water that has organic components from the leafs in it.

[@stasi0238]

@@shannondove96 bro are you still alive

[@oudotcom]

I wonder, if this gas could also be made from just tungsten electrodes, so it would not need carbon, but just using a plasma under the water to produce some kind of HHO gas, or just use cheap Citric acid salt in the water to make C2H6 gas or just use gras cuttings to make the water conductive and somehow burn them away and produce some kind of hydrocarbon gas.. ???

[@zakgault4209]

Once again confusing ideas presented in a logical and clever way. We need more of you man! Top class.

[@offgridertv]

This is a primary hidrocarbon. I know for the name bingo fuel by Naudin. Interesting experiment. Thanks.

[@sakemaki10]

I had no clue what the gas could be until you mentioned the carbon rods, you are a great teacher. A spectrometer would have been perfect for identifying if it indeed was sodium contamination. There are DIY versions using CDs.

[@Scrogan]

A prism or two inside a telescope-like apparatus is pretty simple too if you only need a spectroscope’s qualitative measurements. You can buy them from AliExpress for $3 or something with two plastic prisms and a mirror between. Relying on differential refraction as opposed to diffraction means you don’t get nearly the precision you would from a diffraction grating, but it’s more than good enough for a simple spectroscope. An actual quantitative spectrometer would make for a really interesting project, and personally instead of using a CCD or photodiode I’d use something like an RE200B on a swinging arm, that way I could measure down to wavelengths far longer than 1μm. So long as I swap out the diffraction gratings, that is.

[@wooy1701]

I think its CO and H2

[@kicksledkid]

It's official, there's a legit alchemist on KZbin

[@jordanmann]

In the next video: running my car on carbon monoxide!

[@higuys6]

Pls do that

[@davidscott5903]

If we could just find a way to store it in a small tank, then I would do it.

[@rallen7660]

This was actually done during WW II, during the gasoline rationing in America and Australia. They just produced it with a wood gasifier. It had about 2/3 the energy density of gasoline, so once rationing was over, everyone went back to petroleum for the performance.

[@3000gtwelder]

Not sure if it's possible for the alternator to provide enough power to keep up with gas production with this method. I have studied this for years with HHO, and think this method has too many losses. It would be cool to see someone try it, though I don't think you could generate enough to keep the engine running under a load.

[@kylegreen5600]

I'd love to see you tackle making your own Vanadium redox flow battery. I've always thought they might be a great candidate for grid level storage as their scalability seems pretty good.

[@fss1704]

Getting vanadium is a bitch

[@RubixB0y]

0:56 end of the challenge statement "First thing's first... my carbon-" Me: IT'S METHANE Edit: spelling

[@PumpkinsAmongUs]

That was my thought as well

[@joshsk8erx1]

That's what I thought too!

[@the_ALchannel]

Very cool! Look up Syngas or Synthesis gas, it's the same mixture that's been produced for over a hundred years by various methods.

[@scottwilliams895]

Ah! Yes, someone else did identify it!

[@ibnjmn]

There was a company called Aquafuel that was trying to commercialize this process in the early 2000's. I was pretty fascinated with it at the time, so I loved this! One of the claims that they made was that the process could be used to purify water that had organic contaminants in it. I'd like to see an experiment showing whether that works as well!

[@davidscott5903]

It would work for getting pure water, because after you burn the gasses, you can condense the water vapor and collect the water. You could also trap and compress the CO2 and end up with pretty pure CO2.

[@davidscott5903]

Collecting the CO2 is of course if you are burning it in pure oxygen.

[@RileyCourtier]

That's what lead me to the patent! I found the guys website when looking up carbon rods on google images. Seeing a picture of two rods in a water bottle was one of those irresistible clicks haha.

[@ibnjmn]

@@davidscott5903 I think what they described was actually something like a several-foot long tube with several of these reactors inside it. Dirty water (e.g. sewage) went in, and "clear" (not necessarily potable) water and gases came out. Supposedly the reaction consumed the carbon compounds from the water. I need to find a better reference than my memory, though.

[@troystutsman1400]

AD UNUM TRISTIS That’s what I was wondering about... The removal of heavy metals, pharmaceuticals, and such. I would guess that things like viruses and bacteria would get burnt up and destroyed that way.

[@akashmukherjee2405]

As far as I remember from my chemistry classes, Carbon Electrode breaks down to generate highly reactive carbon atoms under high temperatures which has the ability to combine oxy-hydrogen atoms to generate an into an hexagonal intermediate unstable molecular state, and finally, another nascent oxygen or hydrogen splices the intermediate species to generate methane, acetylene, ethylene, methanol, formaldehyde or formic acid, which can react back on the intermediate stage to generate a multiple combinations of hydrocarbons, aldehydes and ketones. So I believe its not a single species of gas produced, but a mixture of all probable organic molecules depending on the exposure time

[@26CW128Jake]

My guess: carbon monoxide!?

[@26CW128Jake]

EYYYY!

[@mralabbad7]

And good ol' H

[@felixpham615]

and some hydrogen gas

[@TheKopakah]

@@mralabbad7 H2 actually

[@Silasssssssss]

@@TheKopakah It's both most likely since the flame was orange/yellow Edit: NVM he says it in the vid

[@solosailorsv8065]

Build the electrodes into a "sparkplug" with water injected between them. Mounted in a standard engine, with some good electronic controls, that waste energy could be captured and used in combustion. Heated steam is POWERFULL in an engine. Still not as efficient as 150 amps into a BLDC motor, but fun !

[@mrslinkydragon9910]

The give away was the poison warning.

[@bittersweet5161]

Ayyy, really interesting seeing this! My HS Chemistry teacher once offhandedly mentioned this process I think, I was thinking it might be that when I saw the title. I thought it probably made CO and H2 but I barely remembered that the main condition for it was high heat. Wild seeing it in a video, really cool!

[@CarbonFiberSpoon]

Out of curiosity, have you calculated the cost of a single tank given your local price for electricity?

[@Nighthawkinlight]

This would really only be economical on an industrial scale where you have to find some use for the electricity a wind farm was generating through the night (as one example)

[@CarbonFiberSpoon]

@@Nighthawkinlight I was thinking of energy storage for cold Nordic winters. The standard solution of burning wood involves the very tedious work of moving it around in the summer and keeping a fire going throughout winter. So a lot of households have already opted for gas heating. The components required for 20 seconds of 150A@20V aren't prohibitively expensive (caps or battery / solar panel). In the summer the sun is also plenty. Although these small bursts won't be on an industrial scale, one could calculate the solar panel area required to heat a household throughout winter. Granted, this direction of heating seems quite a bit more dangerous than playing with fire and there are ofcourse many other directions of efficient heating available which are inherently safe, but a lot of them require a big upfront cost.

[@kistuszek]

@@CarbonFiberSpoon You wont be storing this anywhere cheaply enough to make it worth your while i guess. At least not in a scale that worth considering for seasonal storage.

[@Falcodrin]

@@CarbonFiberSpoon woodgas allows heating far from the wood

[@عمادعمدة-س8ر]

@@Nighthawkinlight then how cost effective. is it compared to a li ion battery

[@krzysztofmolenda9252]

For the separation of products you may use water shift reaction. Not a separation per se, but will yield one product, and IMO the more interesting one. And it will be great to see WSR in a workshop scale.

[@stormorjin]

About that extra yellow-orange colour at the end; there is a possibility that glass got ionised by arc torch and released sodium ions in the gas mix.

[@fredkow553]

Its hot enough

[@Muonium1]

It's more likely that the sodium was simply present in the leaf strewn rainwater to begin with. Sodium is an incredibly efficient converter of various energy forms into yellow light (the d-lines), there's a reason it's been used in every street lamp in the world for the past half century up until very recently.

[@beenis08]

Oh like Nile Red's microwave plasma video

[@incrediblemichael]

not really the glas because carbon rods for making light are doped with salt to change the lightcolour from something blue ish to warm white and this rods he use are clearly for arc lamps seen them before several times

[@3000gtwelder]

@@incrediblemichael You don't know what you are talking about lol. Those are carbon arc rods for removing metal such as welds that need to be redone, or back gouging for weld prep. Those are not rods for acr lamps. I am a welder with 30 years of experience, and I have used those exact rods many many times.

[@Nuovoswiss]

Others mentioning using nickel carbonyl as a means of separating the CO don't realize that nickel carbonyl is as dangerous as nerve gas or alkyl-mercury compounds. It's really nasty stuff. A safer option is to make copper (i) chloride dicarbonyl, which precipitates out and can be reversibly decomposed back to carbon monoxide and copper (i) chloride.

[@sasjadevries]

Hmmm, you're generating hydrogen, oxygen and carbon. This looks similar to the production of syngas. So it's likely that you're not only making CO and H2, but also some of their reaction products. But what they wrote in the parent is bs: _"It is the applicant's belief that a mixture of carbon monoxide and hydrogen (COH2) is a gas which..."_

[@kiyoponnn]

The applicant is a moron, and this is a useless patent

[@glenecollins]

sasja de vries. Syngas is a bit safer but if you are going to try this you are probably better off assuming it is making CO and treating it accordingly unless you have a Gas Chromatograph handy. I was thinking about putting in a comment about it making some interesting byproducts. He would also be making carbon nanotubes which are a potential carcinogen. Got carbon monoxide also has a thing for metals etc so there is a lot of interesting chemistry in that reaction

[@sasjadevries]

​@@glenecollins Well, syngas is basically a mix of mostly carbon monoxide and hydrogen. And THAT is exactly what he is making here, he is just making plain old syngas. However I'm not sure how pure that syngas is, firstly there are impurities in the water, secondly I'm not sure if the syngas turns into something else. Maybe the syngas is turning into another hydrocarbon because of the intense heat. In the patent they wrote this gas contains COH2 (formaldehyde), which is also toxic btw. And you're only concerned about the monoxide??? And no, you shouldn't treat this as Carbon monoxide, you should treat it as syngas (mix of CO and H2) with impurities. Hydrogen is way more dangerous than you think, it leaks right through plastic and it burns in any ratio with air.

[@sasjadevries]

@@kiyoponnn ​ You are correct. Most patent applications are BS. People who really invent something often keep things secret and don't patent it so that no-one knows how they did it. And the dumbasses who can't make money anyway like to patent for the prestige and the bragging rights. The American patent office should be like the Japanese, German or Russian patent offices. They always reject these patent applications that don't invent anything new.

[@vdekjEE]

Nighthawkinlight: “there is a risk of electrocution, blindness” Me: eh that doesn’t sound interesting Nighthawk: and if those two things don’t get you, poisoning Me: oooh, you have me hooked, that sounds fun!

[@Ultrabrezel]

The reaction between hydrogen and carbon monoxide produces methanol . CO + H2 = CH3OH

[@Nighthawkinlight]

That would be pretty interesting to form in a secondary reaction

[@Nighthawkinlight]

I assume it requires a catalyst?

[@Ultrabrezel]

@@Nighthawkinlight It does not seem like they need a catalyst. But i could also be wrong. EDIT: Sabatier's reaction describes that you need 300-400 °C and presence of a nickel catalyst to get methanol.

[@xeigen2]

It can be done but it's really an industrial process. The reaction takes place over a copper and zinc oxide catalyst at 50-100 atmospheres and 250°C.

[@johnmcfadden9336]

Space a much safer way to store these gases , I have often wanted to know how this could be done

[@mikemmcmeans]

what kind of plating can you put on the rods - what could you dope the water with to get other gas molecules?

[@underdog1252]

Try condensing the gas using liquid nitrogen or dry ice. That way you'll be able to see if its a hydrocarbon/CO or if you're just making HHO.

[@Nighthawkinlight]

If it were HHO it would be a lot more explodey than what you see coming out of the burner. My gasometer probably would have gone through the roof

[@sleeptyper]

If it was just HHO, the carbon from the rods would have to recombine into soot, suspend in the water and turn it murky.

[@theekdunn]

LN2 would work, but only just barely. CO condenses at -192C and LN2 at -196C. For reference, oxygen condenses at -183C. Dry ice would not work for anything other than water vapor.

[@davidscott5903]

If you use any other type of gas without a heat exchanger, but just as a direct heat exchange process, then the other gas such as the LNG would vaporize and mix with the hydrogen and then you are back where you started except now it's mixed with a gas that has an even lower condensing temperature.

[@philmorton4590]

One problem this process uses arc wielding voltages, which is more energy than can be retrieved on the combustion end. It is the equivalent of using a camping fire to solar charge an led. A 100 to 1000 times magnitude loss in energy! Even if you could increase the efficiency that still leaves carbon monoxide and hydrogen as the fuel, both can kill people if the tank ruptures!

[@reggiep75]

3:12 - I was hoping to see the arcs but wasn't expecting to see much when the bowl was turned sideways. I was pleased when the bowl & water was like a lens and magnifying it great to see the arcs stop & start. Once the exposure was turned down it was good to see the gas bubbles.

[@GRBtutorials]

I'm going to guess carbon monoxide because the only elements available are carbon, hydrogen and oxygen. It's not HHO and it's flammable, so it can't be CO2, so it must be CO. Furthermore, it's quite toxic, which coincides with what you said. If it's not, maybe it's an organic compound? My first guess at an organic compound would be methanol, but it's not too toxic (and it's liquid at ambient temperature), so my first guess is still CO. Or maybe its multiple compounds, including CO? Guess I'll find out when I watch the rest of the video. I'm also guessing the way it works is through thermolysis and then the reaction of carbon with the oxygen/hydrogen at high temperatures. EDIT: Oops, forgot about the hydrogen, but I guess I was right with my first guess of CO! Also, now that I think about it, a mixture of CO and H2 is also known as syngas (synthesis gas) because it can be used to synthesise organic compounds such as hydrocarbons or methanol (so there's actually a chance there's some methanol!). Maybe you could try that in a future video?

[@dragonoptions8183]

Next video, could you try running this fuel on a generator and or running a stove while cooking eggs or something.

[@xvidavi]

making fuel with elecricity and then using it to generate electricity, its like a battery but with extra steps

[@calvingreene90]

@@xvidavi Better long term energy storage, the energy density will of the storage system improves when larger, the stored energy can be transferred more efficiently to other storage vessels for powering cars (the energy density is much better for it as well.)

[@calvingreene90]

@@xvidavi And a lower self discharge rate.

[@DavidHansen1]

Love to know them temp of the flame...yes, please cook with that in a video. Even if it isn't an efficient method, you still could perhaps get a fuel for indoor cooking and heating from wind or solar in an emergency (if your home had no gas or electricity for days)

[@davespillane5408]

@@calvingreene90 Thats where this gas mixture falls short. It destroys steel and cannot be compressed into tanks the way pure H2 or propane can be. Maybe a fiberglass tank like most firefighters use would be okay.

[@plasmaman9592]

(Read to the bottom I want to give you something) I would like to see you run a generator off of that gas and see if you create the gas at off peak pricing and run the generator during peak pricing if this could be a hack to save money on the utility bill. Could this be a cheaper form of energy storage then batteries? Also I have an old 1000A Miller ark welder with a ton of big transfers in it I would love to give you if you will use it or the parts in your videos. The transformers are about the size of a regular rectangle tissue box and I think there are ten or more inside of it. It's a three-phase unit so I can't use it but if you were to do something with the Transformers each one is a single-phase at least on one side but I don't know enough about this kind of stuff to pull them out and do something with them. I'm sure you could come up with some crazy things that could educate people and entertain

[@koifish6305]

Haha I love how he basically made a bong and it's 4/20. Maybe that's intentional. Idk

[@dominicdeluca6378]

It's straight up dank gas

[@brandonsihvonen8555]

@@dominicdeluca6378 dank gas??

[@AltMarc]

I tried it 15 years ago! The idea was to scrap the particulate filter of a Diesel engine to make the carbon rods and use its generator when decelerating to create that synth.gas, which is then burnt while accelerating. You can't keep the gas mixed for a long time, H2 is so much lighter than CO....

[@adrianschwier852]

Nice experiment. If the Main Reaktion is H2O + C --> H2 + CO, the you are able to produce two moles of Gas per one mol of Carbon. Thats 2 x 22,4L per 12g of carbon or about 3700ml per 1g of C. Ohne Suggestion: Please weight you Elctrodes before and After, to See if the reaction is taking place . Greatings from Germany.

[@ikanberapi2189]

""excess electricty", sure but who th got 100Amp of electricity laying around 😅

[@SateenDuraLuxe]

Could you combine that process with solar panels to make a super cheap energy storage method that doesn't require spending thousands on battery banks.

[@troystutsman1400]

SateenDuraLuxe I was wondering the same thing. People are asking about the cost effectiveness of producing this gas compared to the cost of the electricity it takes to make it. If you were getting your electricity for free by generating your own via solar, wind, or hydro it might be very cost effective...

[@BeHappyTo]

but these things are not free so you should factor in all the costs and efficiencies to be sure

[@philmorton4590]

Initially this would generate carbon monoxide and hydrogen from the water but if left going it might start creating methane, methanol compounds in the carbon monoxide and hydrogen gas, then the mixture could be burning faster than an energy efficiency society would want. You might want to run through a masspect to make sure of the product.

[@elighb4314]

Mate have just recently stumbled across the wood gas concept and seen your videos about it and had to subscribe, definitely glad I did now!! You're a true "mad scientist" 😄, I love it!!

[@philmorton4590]

The energy to power an led bulb for a month used in 15 sec to produce toxic flammable gas that runs a Bunsen burner for 60 secs, what a waste of energy!

[@ouroya]

guessing probably something like acetylene from the carbon rods

[@joeylawn36111]

No, mostly Carbon Monoxide and Hydrogen.

[@MCchomper]

i also guessed acetylene. I'm glad I wasn't the only one.

[@clebersonsilva2642]

Cara vc é muito loco isso espetacular gosto muito dos seu vídeos parabéns (Africa Do Sul)

[@rhythmjain5639]

My guess is CO and H2.

[@Randibaaj_sala]

How will you get CO from H2O?

[@endothermicexothermic4051]

@@Randibaaj_sala The carbon electrode

[@trevorvanzuydam8115]

you should have made a pot of coffee on that burn test.

[@MichaelJONeill333]

Ive been waiting for this video! Yay! Thank you!

[@christiaan6443]

Really interesting point about the yellow flame indicating sodium contamination. If you haven't already (I haven't looked), that might be a cool topic to explore: what different flame colors tell us about the elements being oxidized. Anyway thank you for the excellent video

[@tonyHern865]

5:42 you turned me nervous when you started to touch the electrodes

[@spagamoto]

Good to have respect for electricity! In this case it's connected to an arc welder, which is low enough voltage to not be dangerous to touch. It *is* dangerous in other ways though - heat and ultraviolet light, mostly.

[@among-us-99999]

If you are already playing with high-current arcs, why not try making Calcium Carbide to generate flammable gas? And you could try to make a chunk of silicon carbide, even though that doesn’t generate flammable gases. Still a cool material.

[@nodros1]

It must have been such a satisfying feeling seeing that flame for the first time, well done!

[@oudotcom]

Hi, well done experiment. I just wonder, how you got the case airtight with the electrodes sticking in there, so the gas is not coming outside the holes, where you have put your electrodes into there ??

[@Nighthawkinlight]

The tubes the electrodes poke through are underwater so that creates a seal.

[@oudotcom]

@@Nighthawkinlight How do you seal it, when you move the electrodes ? Can you please show this in a next video some more ? Many thanks. Regards, Stefan.

[@enotdetcelfer]

I just generate a lot of low pressure methane personally... is this product right for me?

[@VenturaIT]

You should keep a total face mask on at all times and a bib, etc... just in case. Better safe than sorry.

[@dimitriisov1262]

7:22 his expression says so much about his love of science

[@nou4898]

i was expecting methane lol

[@PotatoesAssistant]

Could the addition of a nitrogen source to the water allow for the production of nitroalkenes?

[@RaExpIn]

I'm curious if such conditions might not even produce more than carbon monoxide and hydrogen. I can imagine that compounds like CO2, formic acid, formaldehyde, methanol and short hydrocarbons could form as well. I'd love to analyse the gas. In case someone can try this: *Bubbling the gas into water:* Test pH. If it's acidic, then any kind of organic acid should be present. If it's alkaline, this would be interesting, because it seems impossible at first sight that ammonia could form. *Bubbling the gas through calcium or barium hydroxide solution:* A white precipitate indicates CO2. No precipitate would mean, there's no CO2 or the amount of acid is way higher than expected, if the pH was acidic in the beginning. *Bubbling the gas into tollens reagent:* If a precipitate or even a mirror is formed, then CO (or some aldehyde) is present for sure. *Cooling the gas with ice, after passing it through a tube with calcium chloride (removes water):* If a liquid condenses, it might be methanol and/or longer hydrocarbons. If the liquid burns cleanly, then the hydrocarbons are short. If the flame produces soot, the chains might be long or there are lots of branches in the molecule. To test for methanol, add boric acid and a few drops of conc. sulfuric acid. If it burns green, it's methanol.

[@VIDEOEPPO]

well, this was a new learning

[@mohammedjawadforelectronic9190]

I think there's amount of other carbon composite like CH4 or C2H2

[@julianblacksmith8539]

Him: Don't try this at home Me: No way on earth i am trying that!

[@GianniLaschi]

Will be interesting using that carbon rod to make GDPE (Glow Discharge Plasma Electrolisys) as for example i've done in some of my videos, i never tried to catch the gas output. Great video as always !!!

[@ikanberapi2189]

As someone that have a dream to dominate the world, i shall try this

[@BossOfAllTrades]

I thought that the mystery gas was methane turned out to be a whole lot worse

[@alfepalfe]

I didnt Think of the carbon I thought it may be ozone

[@noahrousseau8801]

This is a really cool process, it gives me lots of ideas for what could be done with it on a large scale

[@YoursUntruly]

I’m guessing it’s something similar to wood gas? From the carbon rods breaking down?

[@YoursUntruly]

I was.. close 😂

[@patman0250]

So I was right okay not much of a guest there.

[@lolbanana8535]

Your setup would be actually ideal to create a atomic arc welder. You essentially feed hydrogen gas into the arc which gets split into atomic form. On cold surfaces it recombines creating temperatures as high as 4000°C (7200°F)!

[@cashewABCD]

Next project: Cold Fusion

[@CaneDimitrov]

I thought you were going to make acetylene 😂

[@romanfoot]

Wow this sure brings back my ninth grade chemistry class memory~ Pump water vapor through heated coal (without air, like how you made wood gas) you get CO+H2, this is in the textbook of ninth grade chemistry of mainland China，and it shows up in almost every exam, so a lot Chinese students know this pretty well.It seems weird to put this particular fact in the textbook, but it's there for a reason.This process as mentioned in the comment is called Fischer-Tropsch process and it's invented by Germans during WWII, to cope with the Germany's gasoline shortage.Not like America, both China and Germany have little oil but tons of coal, so in the old days China adopted this process to turn coal into gasoline to drive cars and engines(specially-made or modified for water gas), for a few decades(before 70s) the cars on the China street were drived by this stuff.So I guess it's in the textbook as a real life experience and an example of how chemistry could solve real problems.

[@atomatopia1]

How does this stack up to the pure oxide hydrogen gas produced from electrolysis?

[@davespillane5408]

Water is a poor conductor even with tricks or salts to help it. Most of the energy is lost during electrolysis unless you limit yourself to very small currents. This can scale up much better and capture high amperage better. The problem is that the CO destroys steel tanks, so you can pressurize pure H2 but not this gas mix. You need ten times the amount of H2 or CO to equal a gallon of propane and only H2 can be stored in a propane tank, so this gas mix cant compete against gasoline the way H2 almost can.

[@IDoNotLikeHandlesOnYT]

In addition to electrocution, blinding, and poisoning (oh, and explosion), doesn't your setup pose a risk of getting in trouble with the law, because that's technically a three-necked round-bottomed flask? (I just learned they're legal to make, possess, buy, and sell for legal activities, but some cop might not know what you're using it for.)

[@seagie382]

All these fuels you've gotta send to project farm so he can see if it'll run a lawnmower

[@seagie382]

well not like in the mail lol but reach out to em

[@omsingharjit]

But as you know it's very dangerous for home applications

[@fuzzylon]

Great video!! So, in theory at least, we could use renewable energy to produce a flammable gas for applications that currently use fossil fuels.

[@I86282]

0:48. I'm quite familiar with the process. And the primary gas you are attemptings to generate among others is known as HHO. However. This is not an actual gas. But a combination of 2 different gases. Which are the constituent components of water. Otherwise known as H2O. Those gases being the hydrogen and the oxygen. With the hydrogen coming off the anode and the oxygen coming off the cathode. And depending on what your using as an electrolyte as well as the anode and the cathode. Various other gases as well. Which are usually toxic.! 6:30. While you may indeed be making some additional carbon dioxide. The vast majority is still oxygen and hydrogen.!

[@finlaygreenaway193]

I think you're wrong. He states in the video that he isn't producing hho

[@I86282]

@@finlaygreenaway193 Then you're both wrong.! He is 100% creating oxygen that is not interacting with the carbon creating carbon-monoxide. Yes some fraction of the oxygen is interacting with the carbon and creating carbon-monoxide. But the vast majority of the oxygen is not interacting with the carbon. So what you mean to say is that you don't know enough about the process. And you just want to take his word for it because he made of KZbin video.! Instead of actually learning about the process of electrolysis. And correcting him yourself.!

[@opticalbeast4947]

Only things i can think of is Nitric Acid, Sulfuric acid, Ozone, Hydrogen, oxygen, all of which could come from rainwater.

[@Stinger-jo3mc]

shouldn't it create methane as well?

[@omsingharjit]

Is it possible to turn h2O into H2O2 using Arc or uv light as energy source ?

[@TheDanteDMC1]

Realy interesting video. But i would be courious how was it efective. Like how mach KW of eletricity did the welder consume and how much of J you got from the flame.

[@kwasikwakye294]

Will it still produce hydrogen without the carbon rods?

[@Nighthawkinlight]

Not by this method without another carbon source in the water. You can produce hydrogen by electrolysis without carbon electrodes but that is a totally different chemical process.

[@lordfarquar9215]

Fun fact: I'm trying this at home Edit: instructions unclear, cat was drinking water. I need a new cat

[@geniusdude8975]

I made gasometer with pvc pipe.

[@ihtsarl9115]

I have a Masters degree in Electrical Engineering and I keep learning new great ideas from your videos.. Thanks for your effort to make this experiment.

[@mushitrials9808]

You have explained it very well i used to play with Arcs and i will try it

[@backpocket718]

Highly enjoy all your videos. Very interesting. I'd love to see what you could do with hydroponics or aquaponics. Maybe generate Algie and convert to biofuels? Would be interesting to see what kind of cool new methods you come up with. You always seem to surprise me the stuff you come up with.