Nightingale: First Impressions

In this video I'll be giving my first impressions of Nightingale including what I liked and what I disliked so far. This is not a full review video.
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[@tsalvlaxitov9594]

1. My system is probably half as powerful as yours and I'm having no problem running it. 2. I just don't see a problem with the starter carry weight, you can actually carry a lot but encumbrance exists. 3. There's literally no reason to split items in your inventory, and you can shift drag from storage containers or to drop items. 4. Building from chests isn't like some big deal because its current year. You simply put chests next to crafting stations to store the according resources. 5. The multiple versions of each resources add different stats to the gear you craft with them that adds an interesting layer of possibilities. Storage is too easy to build to care about how many different stacks you end up with. 6. It really doesn't matter how long the crafting takes because you can set a work station to craft whatever amount of something you need and leave it to craft without you. The crafting that takes the shortest amount of time is finished gear, which makes sense. 7. The essence you're talking about are tier one. Essences get progressively more scarce where you can't just extract anything for them come tier two. 8. I'll somewhat agree with you on the combat, but the problem is you'll get to points where you have like a dozen mobs on you at the same time. So how smart do you want the AI to be with that being the case? I also think there are elements of the combat that are being overlooked atm because people aren't familiar enough with it yet. At any rate I would like to see it tweaked to some degree and improvements to not only animations, but third person and character models as well which are some of my biggest complaints so far. 9. If you have enemies spawning on the stone button puzzles you don't understand the puzzle. You're supposed to watch and repeat the order the stones sound off like Simon says. So far I've found puzzles up something like 6-8 stones where some of the stones take time to find in the first place let alone observe the order they sound off. The variety could be better, but it also could have been a lot worse. I have thousands of hours into survival games and I'll say this game definitely needs some improvement and polish, but overall I just don't think its as bad as most people are making it out to be.

[@lobete]

Have to correct some misinformation and provide some tips. Splitting stacks is in game and works like moat survival games, by holding a modifier key during the move, shift key here. I know the urge to build is strong early on, but you have no reason to until you quest to the point you are directed to learning more crafting benches. When you do, you learn about companions who will gather items and fight alongside you. They also have infinite carry weigh and you should be using them to haul materials for house building if nothing else. They are pack mules. Yes, stat items like food and leather leads for loss of slots, but it is a good feature that most survival games won't give you: that customization. I probably wouldn't recommend hording too much if there are stats not to your liking, though you do get bonuses for varied buffs. This is a crafter's dream game. Yes, the first level of essence is plentiful, but it doesn't seem like an issue that will persist to later realms and you will get past it being your main currency soon. Just keep at it. For craft times, the UI will go through ways of reducing it. Cooking, for example, you can get down to 3 seconds with better lighting. There are a lot of bonuses to learn about when designing a home. Finally, I hate this mentality of "I'm going to acknowledge you as indie studio, but not really. You should be good at this." Being indie isn't some newbie/intern game dev thing where you start indie until you get gud and they let you in a large company. It is small business, small team, small budget type stuff. Like funds for spec testing. That said, I dont think they actually did a bad job on spec testing. My PC is 9 years old and plays on a mix of high and up without any of the issues mentioned here. Just make sure your software is updated. Need for craft-from-storage is fair and it is good they adding that in a future alpha patch. It is still being working on for this phase of testing. I think people forget that they are still developing things. Yeah, combat seems shallow so far. The hardest difficulty hits hard and tears companions up, but they do still get stuck in some places save for the enemies that learned how to jump over obstacles. They might just add that to everyone, if I had to guess. And don't pay too much attention to the negative reviews if you are fine with a survival game that is forced-online with the ability to find others in public realms. The review bombing seems largely centered around people buying it without reading the system requirements. They are adding offline so wait for that if you need it.

[@persnicketypicker6748]

100% agree with all of your points. Been waiting for this game for 2 years and I couldn't be more disappointed.

[@apparition668]

The crafting system contains a synergy mechanic- as you place compatible pieces near each other (you'll see green lines connecting a workshop to compatible pieces) the efficiency of the workshop improves and crafting takes less time.

[@josephkasmarcik2895]

It is a early access game so you can't expect a full game at launch with early access. The devs have already stated that they are going to add biomes and really getting to Nightingale is likely the jump off for further exploration rather then the end goal. It maybe that latter the point is to save cities from the pale for example. Such as needing to adventure to lost Paris or New York to bring them back as a fey realm. I doubt that but its one of a hundred different ways they could take the story. Personally I think the game certainly has some tweeking to be done and I can understand that it would be frustrating to deal with online issues like latency for those not able to get a good connection with the servers. I have a pretty good connection and still get dropped from time to time. However I see the game as a good start with lots of untapped potential.

[@richardshade7052]

Ive played about 10 hours now and I dont really want to play it anymore. Dont care for how complicated the crafting system is and having so many benches. A leveling system would be much better than the gear score system they are using. I also think with how grindy the game is and requiring you to open new realms to get resources and better essences the main cards should be reusable. Honestly confused what the devs were thinking with this one.

[@xXKisskerXx]

"too many wolves, too many boars, too much pointless grinding, combat bad" Sounds just like the "server Test" and the Older Testing versions.. that ... had no apparent changes. I don't know why devs don't think of the basics. Like.. gather upon walking over, or auto-gather when harvesting. Like.. I chopped a tree down, unless your going to Forest/SonsOfTheForest have logs, just put those logs in my inventory - unless it's full/overwieght -THEN drop them in the world. So annoying to have to find every one, and not even that - spam the "pick up" button to get them, meaning you can't even just walk over the new resources. Craft from storage wouldn't be so badly needed, if we didn't need SOOOO many items. Other games like Ark, Atlas, etc you make the walls and carry them, still using the slot/weight system, but here you blueprint and carry the mats... it just feels more cumbersome. this game has WAY TOO MANY items to begin with, similar to Ark and Atlas - where you might have 20 types of metals and each one does a little bit different of a thing... a better system was needed than just "oh shove it in boxes, then take it out when you need it"

[@timbaker7826]

Umm press E it auto picks stuff up.

[@mechanical_chaos]

Everyone seems to have a different term for crafting from storage. We need to decide on what to call it. I first heard it referenced as broadcast storage. Heard one creator call it wireless. Now I'm curious which game did if first. My first time encountering it was in V Rising, then shortly after a lot of my games updated with it.

[@JohnClarkW]

The clunky combat, bad enemy AI, horribly UI, and no crafting from storage make it not worth it. I refunded after crash number 4. It has some cool bits, and the voice acting for Puck was very good. I think Pacific Drive is going to crush later this week.

[@eraycer]

I removed it from my wish list after watching about an hour of a stream. Talking with Puck was the only thing that keep me interested.

[@y33t21]

Thanks for an honest review lots of other KZbinrs are milking this game. Honestly palworld and enshourded are way more interesting. This game looks like a bore. The graphics are from the 1990s

[@JohnClarkW]

Inflexion has been sponsoring a ton of Nighingale content. I think they spent more on marketing and trailers than the game development.

[@dijik123]

​@@JohnClarkWur right as heaven

[@Dax-D]

Carrying weight is an aweful mechanic to include in a survival game. I love how Enshrouded does not put this "realism" on their players. I am also growing tired of "Online" only games unless it is a true massive multiplayer game.

[@OriginalRyan]

We need tojust create our own survival game & make it EXACT to our preferences with adjustments in options for others. 👊

[@MediocreMilton]

You provide the funding and I'm in.

[@OriginalRyan]

@@MediocreMilton Yeah, I'll work on that. 😆

[@saosaoldian6742]

I was sadly disappointed as well during the server stress test. It’s just so incomplete.

[@mugen3603]

It's so dumb that there aren't visual indicators for items of different tiers. That is such a basic design concept. Just change the color of the icons. Give them a different border or background. Anything at all to help the player distinguish one tier from another. It's a very basic concept. But no, all items have the same icon no matter their tier and you have to hover over the item to see the difference. Are these really former triple A developers?

[@timbaker7826]

There are different colors? Each tiered essence is a different color. When you upgrade your gear ots a different color. But sure at first it's all the same if not upgraded. They do need to do some icon work. It's not real clear what some stuff is. But there is a color system.

[@mugen3603]

@@timbaker7826 Ok, go into your inventory, look at your standard wood bundle. And now look at your Fabled Elder Eoten Wood Bundle. Without hovering over them, tell me what the differences are between the icons for these two items. You can't. They are identical. In a game where you need to craft A in order to get B, in order to craft C, in order to craft D, in order to craft E, in order to get the mats for the thing you want to make... it is dumb that they design the icons this way.

[@darrylsmith9027]

I play on starlink and it’s fine for me. Not sure why people are experiencing issues

[@LegendaryNuggets]

Same 😂 even when my starlink had an obstruction for 15 seconds, it didn't disconnect me from the server

[@Terrince_Tate]

Starlink has been working perfectly for me. Also, really enjoying the game. Needs some work for sure though.

[@richardstott6023]

If you get further into the game it gets far too 'grindy'. multiple crafting benches and each needs a mega grind to get them. i played up to the Watch, but giving it a rest for now and see if devs improve with updates.

[@standardfries]

I’m definitely enjoying this game a bit more than I thought especially since I completely knew nothing about it expect survival crafting. Around the 8 hour mark and so far not bad I’m Quality - Ultra Qua and get a decent 46-57 FPS for my RTX 3060. So far no real connection issues besides crashing once and lagging once yesterday. Finding a recruit is good early game because you can trade out your gear for your NPCS and take its backpack to increase to 90. The modifiers look interesting for each creature has its own stats and if you can try to grab the Twitch Drops. You can recraft them too ! I haven’t even touched the enchanting n infusing part yet 😅 I also really like the whole card system that enhances but maybe come with debuffs for your realm.

[@dowak3991]

Same. I'm about 30 hours in and its still a lot of fun.

[@timbaker7826]

I think you need to check game a bit deeper😅. Right click splits. Food cooking takes mere seconds if you have the shelter , light and warmth buffs. Built my wood medium size building in maybe 10 mins or so. I didnt have the lag issues and im on a fairly plain game laptop. You have the different types of stuff for recipes for different food buffs etc. Idk no expert here and not the pickiest person but enjoying the game so far.

[@R33Bandit]

Its coming out that the devs have paid HUGE amounts of creators - like MOST major creators have been paid for reviews. This will no doubt come out in a little while once someone investigates it more. This and force gaming are two of the only unpaid ones i can find. Refunded after couple of hours, and its the only game EVER i have refunded. Just play enshrouded. Or V-Rising. Or Valheim. All three do EVERYTHING better than this shambles. ITs not early access, its pre beta.

[@mechanical_chaos]

I was noticing the past week on my feed. Glad to know it's been validated and not just a conspiracy I crafted in my head.

[@Middy666]

Of many of the reviewers I follow, you’re the only one I’ve seen so far be upfront about the problems with this game. If the devs spent the money they’re using to get content creators to shill the game instead on improving the game maybe it wouldn’t be this big of a letdown. Thank you for your honesty, ignore the early access shills

[@Handlesaredumbm8]

There's also Forced Gaming (he highlight the pros before lambasting it with cons and saying he's finished the game and probably not coming back), Splattercat (left a pinned comment as his first video was a let's play, also highlighting the problems with the game), and Guns, Nerds, and Steel.

[@Middy666]

@@Handlesaredumbm8 never heard of em, but will check em out

[@tronosphere]

u must be blind then because "wait to buy" is what 75% of youtube is saying. personally i own it and its good but it moves at a slow pace took 2 hours to clcik

[@dowak3991]

"If the devs spent the money they’re using to get content creators to shill the game" Yeah cause it's impossible to even imagine that the game is fun and those content creators are actually having fun. I am 30 hours in, and I am loving it.

[@Middy666]

@@dowak3991 congrats, and for every one person enjoying the game there’s another not enjoying it for the reasons stated in this video. Read the steam reviews on the day of release before looking into review vids. Good for you though

[@NicromeShooter]

I always cap my fps if it's not a competitive game and I have experienced no stuttering on ultra quality and I set the cap 60 fps.

[@dennisvogel5982]

im actually quite enjoying it - while i think all the points you mentioned are valid i do not see them as a big deal. Like crafting from storage is nice but also at the cost of immersion, crafting times can be improved when using the perk system, buying everything from the vendor in a few minutes is by design i think, did not seem to me that its supposed to be a big grind (and the first world is still pretty early in the tutorial). I actually like the combat system especially the melee impact sounds and the crits, also like that different enemys are vulnerable to different weapons. AI and wayfinding are bad though i give you that =). For Performance - i play on an i5 16 gigs ram geforce rtx3070 can put everything on ultra with dlss on performance and lumen toned down a bit and have solid selfcapped 60 fps stable on 1080p (toned graphics more down than i must because i hate running fans on full blast). no stuttering or issues. Might really be a lag thing because of the servers then for you (guess you installed on an ssd right?) AFAIK the whole singleplayer campaign is more or less a tutorial before you find the multiplayer hub and can run dungeons together. seemed like that part of the game is the big thing and the reason to have always online in the first place and not MTX shop stuff (but you never know nowadays) I find this quite refreshing in a slouch of otherwise unspectacular survival games that repeat the same setting over and over again (how many forrest clones and zombie scenarious where there before palworld and enshrouded yuck) with some actual cool mechanics like the realm cards and the magic. EDIT: oh and of course its still early access so they will do tons of stuff to this game and i see no risk that this gets abandoned like some of the more shady EA Projects

[@SopheM01]

Its looks nothing like I was expecting.. And it looks like something I will get bored after 2 hours, just a build a house, and so on.. But wheres the story? Characters? Cities? Villages? Why can none of these open world survival games provide this? Releasing incomplete games all the time, and by the time the decent updates come, its ruined because youve completed the quests anyway? Like the graphics are no different to skyrim from 10+ years ago,.. these multiplayer online games are just so boring.

[@jamesdetroit3791]

Thanks for the informative review. I was looking forward to this game but many other reviews are also negative. Looks like the game is not ready for even early access. Hoping the devs double down and make significant improvements in 2024, but what is required may be more than they can handle given the current state of the game.

[@timbaker7826]

For the price and it bring early access it's not as bad as some are making it. People seem quick to criticise. It has its issues sure but Its definitely not a casual survivor. They don't take the easy way lol.

[@user-xb8vb6sd9j]

Craft-from-storage (CFS) needs to be as basic as WASD at this point. Come on devs!

[@Traylon]

It should be in a QoL update coming in march. Is it THAT big of an issue though? Valheim has never had it as far as I'm aware unless they've added it recently... And it's been out for multiple years

[@user-xb8vb6sd9j]

@@Traylon Yes, it's a very big issue. An easy one to solve with no excuse, which is what makes it puzzling they didn't simply include it.

[@The_Apex_Of_Predators]

@@user-xb8vb6sd9j You say easy to solve as if you are a game developer that can do better

[@user-xb8vb6sd9j]

@@The_Apex_Of_Predators Haha. You'rer rea;lly hurt about this huh? Enshrouded does it. Are those devs magic? Are they far more talented? How about The Infected? Made by one developer? Just accept the criticism is valid. Your game isn't under attck, ok?

[@The_Apex_Of_Predators]

@@user-xb8vb6sd9j ​Cool to just assume that I even play Nightingale (I don't) just because I say that crafting from storage isn't easy to implement. All I'm saying is that it isn't (and I quote), "An easy one to solve with no excuse, which is what makes it puzzling they didn't simply include it." Particular stuff to do with inventory and items is challenging. Not saying Nightingale is even a good or decent game, just that your criticism that something seems easy to add when it isn't (even though that feature might be a great feature), is not valid.

[@GodOfWrath7]

That chat in the corner is already annoying

[@user-xb8vb6sd9j]

I don't know what the hook is supposed to be here. Everything in this game is done better elsewhere w/o always online. The portals are just the old small map with load screens design. Real lack of QoL.

[@DLMyth2]

I can’t even play the game the fix they did this morning makes the game still crash. Only difference between launch and today is that yesterday I couldn’t even see the tittle screen. When they “fixed” the problem I can only get as far as making my character. Then after that my 4090 runs out of memory. Lol

[@timbaker7826]

Thats unfortunate. I'm on a basic gaming computer. Takes sometimes a couple tries to get into the server but hasn't been a bug deal. It doesn't crash while playing unless I use a portal. Same gig might take a couple tries but than goes. Other than that it runs pretty smooth.

[@LegendaryNuggets]

You don't even get to experience the true gameplay until you get realm cards

[@crimsonraen]

Well dang.. I was pretty stoked on the trailer for this game, and all the videos I've seen so far make it seem pretty.. bland. Definitely disappointed. Hopefully they make it closer to what the trailers looked like before it's out of early access!

[@RT-np7dm]

All these minecraftian clones are sub-par at best.

[@omnispar1646]

I like it porb my fave Survivor I like it more then all others I have played even palworld conan exiles was the top but now this

[@tronosphere]

the fact that you didn't even mention the recruit as far as weight carrying makes u think u gave this like 4 hours max. why make a video? that thirsty to release content in time?

[@Kradily]

Odd I have had none of the issues most the reviewers have had when I go to these kind of videos maybe people that got those early review copies should post up the time they did the recording cause half the things in this I don’t see period…like with performance issues not a single thing upon loading in I’m on a 4060ti with 32gig ram 65mb CABLE internet and not a single stutter in dungeons with like 12 mobs rushing me or doing gates or open world exploring. But the inventory is not that bad as stated when you get the follower (right after the tutorial and you go to the trader) they have unlimited carry weight and you can load them up with rocks and wood or hell let them go pick it up by giving them an axe for wood or pick for rocks and they WILL build your structures and crafting stations and add on enhancements for said stations. And not to sound rude but why put the devs on a double standard? Just cause they are a executive that WORKED on AAA games before don’t mean they have those AAA backing indie is indie go in low expect low no matter the developer the day before should have drilled that into everyone’s head by now. Crafting from storage is as stated by a buddy of mine a “luxury” should not be a standard hell it’s not even a quality of life it technically is a cheat for the hoarder in you 😂 (hence why in enshrouded it’s done by literal magic chests) craft what you need when you need it place chests for those crafts around those workbenches so you can pull from them craft and drop the spares right back into the chest beside it, but who knows what the devs might add in the future. Now with the combat I honestly don’t know what’s going on in most of these reviews I have seen but those mobs give me NO chill! And are aggressive as all hell with attacks, only let down is the automaton boss that just charges in a straight line like a dingus…the wolves will infact try to circle around and flank you, the goblins/demons will do the same till you meet the sword wielding ones that like to do a two hit combo then back dash and dash in with a wide swing…then there is the spiders…fk the spiders… The mini dungeon puzzles I’m used to they just POI like in valheim and 7DtD they mix it up every know and again but pretty much copy paste shrines. That’s about all I can think of as of now from the game that people are talking about besides obvious bugs and glitches,always online as the dev stated offline is being worked on. But again my playthrough is not what your playthrough was so sorry you had a bad time hope you give it a thorough play next time and give it another review.

[@mezla1058]

From everything I've seen so far it looks like a really bland buggy game.

[@thewulfsilvenpack9752]

Ive not had any bad performance since i started playing so in terms of how the game acts will always be player to player cause there are to many variables you just sound like you wanna shit on this game ive seen all your videos and you just rip into it as much as you can.

[@Traylon]

"Waaah game incomplete, game bad" people need to stop complaining about things in early access because everything is subject to change. Stop crying. It's annoying. I really don't want to say something about all your points because half of them are bs.

[@OriginalRyan]

I disagree with your take. He's not saying game bad, he's saying certain aspects of survival games should be pretty much standardized to a certain extent, even for early access. It's nearly across the board in the genre that developers just don't seem to be able to fine-tune the basics of a survival game. Just my opinion.

[@Traylon]

@@OriginalRyan not trying to put words into anyone's mouth but that's all I've heard about nightingale when it comes to something it doesn't have that others do. Valheim, v rising, terraria, minecraft..just a few examples of new and old games that don't have crafting from storage but are still amazing games...a couple quality of life mechanics don't make or break a game, because it's just quality of life, making things a LITTLE easier but making the player lazy in return

[@elained.8240]

@@Traylon And it's just as tedious in all of those games. "Multiple games have bad storage management" is not a good argument. I'm still waiting for the game that combines every chest in my house into one mega inventory that I can sort through filters and a search bar. It's not fun managing a bunch of square icons. It's fun playing the game.

[@Traylon]

@@elained.8240 just because it's not what the "golden standard" should be, doesn't mean the entire game is bad. That's all I've seen people say in multiple comment sections other than the horrid servers, but that's an actual legit complaint

[@elained.8240]

@@Traylon I didn't say it made the game bad. I said it made it tedious. And I don't care for tedious games.