Nightmare As A Child - Twilight-Tober Zone

"Nightmare as a Child" had the potential to be a stronger installment of the show, but as is it only does a passable job at telling this story. Is this episode worth a re-watch or should you leave it in The Twilight Zone? Find out now!
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"Nightmare as a Child" is episode 29 of the American television anthology series The Twilight Zone. It originally aired on April 29, 1960,
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[@JP2GiannaT]

I actually know someone this happened to...she didn't see a personification of her past self, but she did have a highly traumatic memory emerge after the guy who caused it ran into her randomly one day in public. So that aspect is actually accurate.

[@nassauguy48]

Exactly, something like this could happen in real life, and that is what makes it so compelling.

[@zandernewson9933]

I wonder if the twist was a lot more compelling in the 1960s. Mental health was still largely ignored or unknown to the general public. The idea of people not always being in control of their own mind was new to cultural zeitgeist. See things like Psycho, or The Bad Seed, where they have to literally have to explain to audience what’s happening because the concept of mental health was seemingly so unknown.

[@gailcbull]

I agree. The concept of blocked memories was new to psychiatry at that time. There was also a lot of skepticism around psychiatry in general. My parents, aunts and uncles were all teenagers and young adults in the 1960s, and they still feel a lot of shame about admitting the need for mental health support.

[@feathero3]

You make a good point

[@areyousureyouenteredyourna85]

Part of why those were better times. Psychiatry is an abusive, manipulative brain rape cult with no right to exist. I still have nightmares and repressed memories and a slew of other shit after what they put me through as a kid.

[@DuelaDent52]

@@areyousureyouenteredyourna85 I’m sorry for your experiences, but psychiatry done right is far from a “brain-raping cult”.

[@reservoirfrogs2177]

@@areyousureyouenteredyourna85 Medicine was vicious torturous, and nonsense mysticism in the past. Now we can operate on brains while a person is alive and replace organs. We evolve our technology and technique, we get better with time. Psychiatry in the past was terrible, we've learned from those mistakes.

[@zylokun]

If I'm not mistaken, "having a crush" in the 60s was more or less a way to say how pretty girls were. It wasn't the same as it is now. It was just nice. Course I could be wrong too and he could just be a creep. It is the Twilight Zone after all

[@0816M3RC]

I don't know.. there is a pretty creepy scene from the 1950s movie The Bad Seed where a guy in his fifties acts creepy towards an eight year old girl and it is treated as "normal". 🤢🤮

[@alexandresobreiramartins9461]

@@0816M3RC People, moral values are social conventions. They change over time. You can't judge the past by today's rules and sensitivities. That's insane.

[@Oppeldeldoc1]

I think zylokun is pretty right. There's also the phrase "platonic crush," which doesn't really mean anything sexual. Saying that about a kid just isn't incredible weird.

[@rainpooper7088]

@@alexandresobreiramartins9461 While the figure of speech used here is likely harmless, when it comes to sexual harassment of children, yes you fucking can. It used to be normal to sell off little girls to much older men(and still is in some parts of the world), that doesn’t mean anyone has to condone it.

[@alexandresobreiramartins9461]

@@rainpooper7088 You're not condoning or condemning anything, it's in the past. It's like saying The Merchant of Venice is anti-Semitic, when it's not, that concept didn't even exist in Shakespeare's time. You literally can't judge the past based on the present, because, as I said, unlike what you believe, morals are not immutable eternal mandates sent to us by your imaginary friend in the sky, but are actually social conventions that change over time to accommodate what's more convenient for society at any given time.

[@BrokenBananaBud]

I'm gonna be so sad when this is over. I hope we get more episode analyses next october! Would love to see these continue, big fan!

[@ryangreen6255]

Agreed.

[@frankbarrie6785]

He should do diff shows with this "format" like 2 weeks out of a month or something

[@ThunderLord1]

@ryan jones Oh my, that would be great ! One great classic show a month ?

[@succulentcranberry]

Still have the movie, the 1985 series, and the most horrible 2019 series. Lots of content for many years

[@augustthenuz984]

I really like this episode for its ending. It’s a nice change of pace from some of the other twilight zone stories to see such a happy ending. She didn’t die when she found out what was going on, she wasn’t considered a murderer or anything for killing the guy, and no one calls her insane or anything because of seeing the child that wasn’t there.

[@sirorliktheironclad]

Same.

[@ChrisOnStage2]

Fun Fact: that little girl, Susan Capito, was in another better TZ episode ("Caesar and Me") and was also in Hitchcock's "The Birds" and the musical "Gypsy". She then changed her name to Morgan Brittany and had an extensive TV career on shows like Dallas, Glitter, the LOve Boat, and some TV movies.

[@avc448]

Is this true?

[@emerybayblues]

@@avc448 As a child, she played Baby June in Gypsy. As Morgan Brittany, she played Pam Ewings evil resentful half-sister Katherine Wentworth.

[@johnhaladay5541]

This episode freaked me out when I was younger. It's still disturbing. Season 1 episodes were just so much more haunting, dramatic, eerie, and compelling than those of other seasons. I'm not saying that episodes from other seasons were of poor quality. However, there is a big difference.

[@gregorytyson995]

TZ's first season was far and away its best season One of the best seasons ever frankly.

[@frederickschiller2185]

Scared me too! “Perchance to Dream” scared me too. But this one had a greater impact on me.

[@racheljwallace]

Because it's about a small child witnessing a murder! And then having the burden of taking revenge when she is attacked in her own apartment by a stalker. It's ****ing terrifying! Also, pssh to this reviewer who says skip it to one where a woman takes power over men who have wronged her. She can do it! You push that murderer down the stairs! Take that, creepy dude who won't leave me alone! Take it!

[@trinaq]

Terry Burnham was actually a compelling actress, especially given her young age at the time. Even though the twist was obvious from a mile away, she was more believable than her adult counterpart, in my opinion. 💞

[@emerybayblues]

I'd only ever seen Burnham in "Imitation of Life" where she played Lana Turner's daughter Susie as a kid (Sandra Dee played adult Susie).

[@14akamaru]

This episode gives me a bit of Trace Memory vibes, with a child witnessing a murder of their mother and years later, piecing together the memories which lead to the killer's demise. I like it.

[@AlexTenThousand]

3:23 "I'm a Shadow, the true self!" Persona jokes aside tho, she's literally the Jungian concept of a Shadow in many ways, a part of our personality we consciously reject.

[@sdsign4229]

I am thou... Thou art I... Thou hast acquired a new child... It shall become the wings of hallucination That breaketh thy chains of suppressed memories. With the birth of the Marky Persona I have avenged the killer of mommy that shall lead to therapy and new feels...

[@kelliehorn1082]

This episode was one of my favorites growing up. I liked the idea of her past self helping her process and overcome what happened to her.

[@melissacooper4282]

I know that Markie is a shadow of Helen's past but how is it that Helen didn't recognize Markie as a younger version of herself?! I would've recognized my younger self in a heartbeat! Also I never realized this before but the part where Peter Seldon told Helen that he had a crush on her when she was a child really creeped me out! Before I didn't pay attention to that remark. Now that I'm watching this again I'm now seeing that he's not only a killer but a sick pervert!

[@alexandresobreiramartins9461]

This comes from the Freudian nonsense about repressed memories.

[@troywright359]

he would have killed her too, and he followed her her whole life. the creepy overtones were right there, even without the 'crush' remark

[@MrStyro]

So this is what inspired that one episode of iCarly where Spencer meets a small girl all over his apartment! I was wondering where that come from.

[@francisfatta]

0:27 “school teacher” SCHOOL TEACHER? WHATS THAT? I haven’t heard of those since last year

[@Awelbeckk]

So you know what it is ...

[@carlocalderon3659]

Ha ha

[@squeaktheswan2007]

Well, you see kids, it all started when kids would go to this building in giant golden cars...

[@Awelbeckk]

@@KairuHakubi I imagine the poor schoolteacher. -My students all understand what I explain immediatly and the score perfect grades everytime ... this heaven is boring ... but I'm not insulted by the students, they all show respect to me, so I'm happy here. Thanks Pip. - Mmmmm.... Something went very wrong here ...

[@captainbirch2.079]

thats a word i haven't heard in a long time

[@kimberlymedley6824]

I watch this one any time I can just for the performance of little Markie. When I was a kid, SHE gave me nightmares!

[@DodgeThisBam]

5:17 I don't think a single location being used can really be brought up as a negative. Rear Window did it perfectly.

[@reservoirfrogs2177]

Extremely weird criticism too when this show has tons of episodes that take place in one or 2 rooms or locations. It's one of its most impressive aspects. Nobody today could do that and make it compelling like Serling did.

[@avc448]

This was the scariest episode when I was kid. All I could remember was, "I'm you, Helen!!!" And I just didn't understand but it scared me for years!

[@nickkurtz512]

My personal favorite episode besides The Midnight Sun and Five characters in search of an exit

[@frederickschiller2185]

I love Five Characters in Search of an Exit!

[@bplatinumpaladin]

Apparently a "Crush" means either a feeling of Love or Admiration for a person, so not necessarily does it mean something so creepy. But it's still pretty creepy.

[@jre617]

I can't get enough of this episode because I love little Terry Burnham. I think she's great in it. Later as a teenager, she appeared on a few episodes of My Three Sons, and she was very natural, IMO. She had some physical problems in her early 20s and never acted again, unfortunately.

[@Nasser851000]

Having a nightmare as a child would be freaky O.O

[@teamcyeborg]

Bro. Bro! o.0

[@marin3933]

How are you everywhere?

[@julieporter7805]

It's one of the more terrifying episodes, if a bit predictable. I am amazed at what this episode got away with like him saying he had a crush on her and the violence. Oddly enough Janice Rule in this episode looks a great deal like Kathleen Quinlan did in Twilight Zone The Movie's "It's a Good Life" where she also played a schoolteacher named Helen Foley (though I guess a different character since there is no indication or reference to thls episode except the name and occupation). I imagine the real Helen Foley, Rod's teacher, looked like them too.

[@dynamicjaethought7788]

Like Walter said, "I'm not sure if that the term meant something else, back then". I don't know if that connotation is the same as we know it today... but ewww.

[@trinaq]

Precisely, the early 60's were a different time, for sure, and the main villain comes off more creepy than he was likely intended to. 😯

[@0816M3RC]

@@trinaq Have you ever seen the 1950s version of The Bad Seed? There is a scene where an old man (he has to at least be in his fifties) creeps on the antagonist, a girl of 6-8 years old. He compliments her beauty, implies that she would make a lucky man very happy and proceeds to sniff one of her braids. 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮 And he isn't treated as a creeper for doing any of this. Fuck the 1950s and 1960s.

[@bongoman9578]

@@0816M3RC sounds like joe biden to me

[@0816M3RC]

@@bongoman9578 Remember that Trump was friends with Epstein.

[@redtygr14]

I actually really like the episodes that aren't technically supernatural. This episode could've been as good as "Where is Everyone?", since the twist was about sensory deprivation. I feel like episodes like this should work because the Twilight Zone is supposed to be about many concepts, not just places or people.

[@Duval-Dame]

Yes. Some of my favorite episodes are not supernatural.

[@neallong2480]

I love this. I would love it if they continue these reviews throughout the whole series, not just through October but for every episode. At the very least I hope they continue the reviews later down the line.

[@esteemedmortal5917]

I do like the concept of the unconscious self, the inner child, emerging to protect the adult self.

[@BubblegumLightsaber]

I'd actually been trying to remember the name of this episode for _years._ I only had a vague memory of a little girl sitting on stairs in the episode and when the scene of Markie on the stairs was shown I was like "that's it!"

[@DaNinja60]

One of my favorite episodes and so memorable. The young girl played her part brilliantly.

[@peacecraft82]

This was one of my favorite episodes of the entire show.

[@shannonm75]

This one was on a couple days ago. It's always been one of the favorites.

[@teamcyeborg]

Calling it now before I finish the video, Marky doesn't exist and she's a ghost of Helen's past

[@teamcyeborg]

CALLED IT BAYBEE

[@trinaq]

Yep, I'll hand you that phone, because you CALLED IT! 📱😂

[@melissacooper4282]

How is it that Helen didn't recognize her younger self?! If I were in that situation I would recognize my younger self right away!

[@trinaq]

@@melissacooper4282 It's likely that Helen had repressed all of her childhood memories, which may explain her not recognising Markie as her younger self right away. In fact, she gets close to realising the truth when she notices Marie's burn scar. 😳

[@sdsign4229]

@Broken Lantern X OH BABY, YOUUUUUUUU, YOU ARE THE OLD MEEEEE

[@TheCreepypro]

I actually think this is still pretty good for how straight forward it is

[@chrisazylum6624]

Remember watching this one when I was younger! Next time A Stop At Willoughby!

[@jamesclukey7488]

Since this story essentially all happens at one location, the apartment building. I wonder how well it would translate to being performed on stage. Like a one act play. I bet it would be more powerful in that intimate setting, than it is on TV. I adored the little girl's performance, and when it became obvious to "Helen" that she hadn't consumed any of the hot chocolate I knew that the girl was an illusion.

[@registromalplena2514]

She sees the second little girl outside on the steps and thinks herself 'Oh hell no, I'm not inviting you in for chocolate.'

[@Blindbuymovieguy]

Helen Foley was Rod Serlings English teacher at Binghamton High School. My grandmother was a teacher there and Helen’s best friend. Rod Serling spent his teenage years in Binghamton NY

[@damnthatscrazy4426]

I have a recommended twilight episode you should review! Now its been a while but in middle school I was obsessed with twilight zone. I forgot what it was called but basically its in an apartment and there's a an old man who is popular with the children but this one little girl asked him to fix a toy (I think?) And fast forward something happened to her and there a man that's been around since the little girl left the old man [Spoilers if you want to keep it as a surpirse] Some space in case your making sure not to read on accident Okay the ending was the suited man following around is death and he's here to take the girl away but the old man insist to take him. Its not scary but its one of the light hearted ones that did make me awe.

[@melissacooper4282]

That episode was called One For The Angels.

[@CTN71]

Hope to see more of these next October. Surprisingly entertaining. Also, love those re-enactments you guys do before some of these. Makes those episodes stand out more.

[@erelievagiger5463]

I really love these episodes!!!

[@jonahfalcon1970]

Wonder if you'll do I Sing The Body Electric, one of the few upbeat episodes.

[@allenjones3130]

The villain is impeccably dressed in a suit and tie.

[@joshweiss4035]

I wonder if the episode would've been stronger if Helen's trauma was so great, that her younger self was physically manifested in the real world (a la Tom Riddle coming out the diary). Then they both could have taken down Selden as a team, thus helping Helen reconcile her past with the present. Just a thought.

[@starkman78]

Interesting. However, it would have taken more than the allotted time to set that up properly and pay it off satisfactorily.

[@weirdproq]

Please make more of these next year. I want to see you cover more episodes.

[@tenkaiechi01]

in the 50's one could "crush" on anything. it was slang for liking something and the meaning was not always sexual. Someone could have a crush on a singer for there music or a surfer for their skill or a blue vanilla shake from the malt shop. Time caused the meaning of the word to become what it is known for now..

[@Jpew2007]

I hope you guys keep this going for all the seasons and not just stop with the first season this year. Really want to see what you guys think of some of my favorite episodes.

[@legionaireb]

Could definitely have been done better. I'd have made the child the creepy element until it became time to reveal the twist.

[@kamryngray8978]

This is actually one of my favorite episodes.

[@fidgetboyandfriends821]

Your right I did saw this twist coming

[@RankBaloney]

For me, this is the first episode of the Twilight Zone that has actually made me feel scared so far since starting the series in chronological order.

[@MikeP-sq6be]

"Helen Foley" was a name they re-used for The Twilight Zone Movie; in the "It's a Good Life" episode

[@Romie702]

I’m really liking these videos 👍

[@Gojiro7]

Jerry lee Lewis was called a pedophile by his fans for marrying a teenage girl who was going to turn 18, if a rockstar as big as him can be called out for such a thing, then you bet this guy admitting he creeped on a little girl is meant to be disturbing.

[@benlarsen4602]

One of my personal favorites.

[@floppsymoppsy5969]

I always loved this episode

[@0816M3RC]

2:12 This is super freaking creepy. Markie was like ten when he knew her and he had a crush on her... and he worked for her mother? Maybe he was fresh out of high school (At least eighteen or nineteen) but he was probably in his twenties. And he had a crush on her.. a ten year old. That is the scary part of the episode. 🤮🤮🤮

[@melissacooper4282]

I never realized what a sick perverted man that he really was!

[@alexandresobreiramartins9461]

You're juding someone from a society 70 years ago by today's values. That doesn't make sense.

[@marianatheschizoid5912]

I think “having a crush” just meant, finding someone pretty or likeable in the 50s, not necessarily in a sexual way. But I’m also not entirely sure.

[@katherinegilks3880]

@@alexandresobreiramartins9461 Child molestation was wrong 70 years ago (and 20-30 years before that when the flashbacks would have taken place.) The expression “have a crush” might not have had a blatant sexual undertone like now, but it was gaining that usage by 1960, so the character using the expression was supposed to make him creepier. It would not have been creepy in 1960 if, in a romantic comedy, he had said he had a crush on her when she was younger and now they were both adults dating. It was considered fine for a guy to wait for a girl to grow up and then marry her. So he was using a pick-up line out of context, and therefore it is intentionally creepy.

[@katherinegilks3880]

@@BWMagus Yes, it was not as creepy in 1960, especially as he was older. But he did creepily show up at her door and then was being flirtatious - that would have been unsettling then as now.

[@Nasser851000]

is this the first scary episode of the twilight zone?

[@trinaq]

I agree, it's one of the most chilling episodes, in that it wasn't supernatural, and dealt with the protagonist having repressed memories.

[@frederickschiller2185]

Maybe. “Perchance to Dream” creeped my out. But yes, I agree.

[@thehillisalive]

When the kid said the line about the burn, it was made even better by the fact that I too have a burn scar right below my elbow

[@revacohen]

I will admit to liking this episode, but I found the scene where Helen pushed Peter down the stairs unconvincing. He was clearly stronger than her, and I don't see how she could have done that so easily.

[@just_pierre4728]

Damnit that hitchhiker clip always gets me!

[@frederickschiller2185]

I can’t wait until next October!

[@andrewscolari5724]

I vaguely remember seeing a rerun of this episode when I was a kid, but I didn't remember the flashback scene.

[@bradbell3744]

It was a great episode. All the actors did a great job

[@jemofthe80s18]

I prefer the school teacher Helen Foley going to Willoughby who gets kidnapped by Anthony:):) I remember seeing this episode years ago and calling the twist! Crossing my fingers that It's A Good Life will be on Halloween, my favorite episode ever!

[@dariamorgendorffer7813]

I actually think this episode is underrated! I thought the little girl was amazing. There is a moment when Helen adult sees the same burned mark on Markie’s arm, and Terry’s expression is surprisingly good for a 10-year-old actor! Apart from the movie ‘An Imitation of Life’, I don't recall seeing that young actress again. Indeed, mental illness was not understood the same way we see it today! That is also why a movie like Hitchcock’s Marnie wasn't well-received at the time.

[@miroslavtomic7038]

This episode marked the first appearance of Morgan Brittany, credited as Susan Cupito, in the Twilight Zone. She made two more appearances in TZ - Valley of the Shadows and Ceaser and Me.

[@zachgullion595]

You got that right

[@Icalasari]

I literally don't even recall this episode. I do now, but for most of this video, I could not recall it

[@b.f.2461]

I would not skip this episode just for Helen's dress. Wowza!

[@natebetts9426]

Geez, only two left? I can't wait until next year for more episodes... From the Twilight-Tober Zone

[@fuxyews2177]

You should review all the episodes. I'd be onboard with that :)

[@Zeldarw104]

I like that particular episode of The twilight zone -- creepy, is what I'm going for & creepy is what I got, just imagine your younger self coming back telling you about a traumatic (the murder of your mother) memory, so attached, to your very being, that you totally blocked out?🥺😑

[@lunasif]

Got to say I do like that it showed women arent completely defenceless like most crime shows (or any other shows really that I watched growing up...) and can fight their way out of a situation without having someone rescuing them or a gun.

[@smiththeinspiringanimator7042]

Awesome and cool! :)

[@patriciaschuster1371]

More! More!More!

[@philipportelli7700]

Child actors are always hit-or-miss in the TZ. They all can't be Bill Mumy! Usually the weaker TZ episodes are the ones too close to rational explanations! But this guy following her around for years...that's unbelievable!

[@trinaq]

I agree, some can be wooden, but others like Steven Perry from "The Big Tall Wish" or Terry Burnham from this episode, can be convincing and believable enough. 😁

[@rogue7723]

@@trinaq Yeah though it also depends on what kind of character they're portraying. I think Terry Burnham's performance is good because the character Markie is supposed to be this enigmatic, brutally-honest, straight talker so her deliveries fit.

[@RNA]

Out of curiosity if you had to change this episode what would you have changed about it walter? I am curious to know your take on how it would fit the series better.

[@sablebrand7232]

could you do something like this for Tales from the Crypt?

[@jenniferschillig3768]

I think it's Douglas Brode in his book on The Twilight Zone who speculates that Helen's trauma (and the motive for the murder) was actually hinted to be Selden's molestation of her (that remark about how he "had a crush" on her), but they couldn't get away with it so they turned it into Selden trying to cover up his thievery instead.

[@plasticweapon]

most useless over analytic theory ever.

[@TriaMaxwell]

That little girl's voice is.... Grating

[@chrismulwee4911]

Sheppard Strudwick, who plays the murderer, lent his voice to a few Warner Bros. Cartoons like TOM THUMB IN TROUBLE as Tom's dad, and OLD GLORY as the spirit of Uncle Sam.

[@gmg9010]

I like this one

[@brendakrieger7000]

I remember this one, really creepy

[@icarustanovic3097]

One of the best episodes.

[@test-x7n]

oh ok

[@freakystories3583]

What a fucking creep! He kills her mother even tolled her to her face that he had a crush on her when she was a kid and then tried to kill her in her own home not cool man not cool. The only good thing that happen was the fact that he die falling down the stairs, and thank god that her mind worn her about that creep just in time too or he be the one a life not her.

[@colinwilliams553]

This episode freaked me and scared me at the same time....so I'm NOT gonna skip it.Sorry dude, I actually liked this one.

[@troywright359]

Great episode. interesting seeing the kid get the better of the adult here. The violence implication was a bit stronger than usual, with the intended death of a child, and a man stalking his victim as she grows up. Adult portrays a lost vauge state quite well, she wouldnb't be out of place in a Silent Hill game. The villain is great, invading Helen's body space, inviting himself to stay at many times. Came across very creepy. Keeping the picture on his person all the time. but the death of the killer was a bit flat if im honest, and so was the reveal and maybe even him leaving after she fainted. everything else was great though, and it's too bad Walter has to look down on this episode. I think he doesn't understand the vibe it was going for.

[@nakeishamammeri5094]

The mind is a positive thing, her past trauma manifests itself as her child self

[@ztslovebird]

I was driving home & was suddenly hit with the sad thought that this will be ending soon.

[@justanotherchannelonyoutub126]

The sad fact is that the part where she doesn’t go to jail for killing the man trying to murder her might be the most unrealistic thing in this episode

[@trinaq]

I agree, even though it's just a show, it would definitely lead to a manslaughter charge in real life, even if it was it self defence.

[@michaelharrington7656]

I think more highly of this episode. It reminds me somewhat of Hitchcock's Marnie, though that film came later. In the TZ there are several episodes that seem to overlap a little with Hitchcockian ideas. I think of The Hitchhiker and Mirror Image among others. Thank you for an excellent You Tube series. I hope you will look at Night Gallery one day.

[@publicserviceannouncements2103]

*When you deliver a sick burn using the shows own tag line, in the Twilight Zone.*

[@shadowhound5113]

That sounds so much better than the new Twilight Zone Show.

[@jeffborowiak8992]

Scary episode.

[@SharpDesign]

Oh, Nightmare AS a child! I get it.

[@danielbixel8633]

I actually really enjoyed this episode,

[@kazamshah4543]

I think it's one of the best. Why all the haters?

[@Brenda-cg1px]

I found this episode a little too predictable (I figured out almost right away who Markie and Selden really were) but I did like the ending with Helen and the little girl. It was very sweet. Next stop… Willoughby! (Speaking of which, I’m really sad there’s only two more reviews left. I’m going to miss The Twilight-Tober Zone!)

[@pkmntrainermark8881]

Funny, I just saw this on TV a day or two ago.

[@troperhghar9898]

*cross fingers* come on "night of the meek"

[@WalterCulture]

It’s not in the first 31 episodes.

[@jonahfalcon1970]

Helen Foley, eh? (grin)

[@ArcaJ]

Meeting my younger self would be scary. I tried to set the house on fire. My parents gave me a Malibu Barbie instead of a Ballerina Barbie. They had to go.

[@MandleRoss]

You sound like you were a smart kid who knew that you probably get new parents to try out if you get rid of your current ones.