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Best Paints? My Thoughts On Modelling Paints, Thinners And Primers

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Night Shift

Night Shift

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@wellardme
@wellardme 3 жыл бұрын
What i love about your channel: many modellers are fantastic. But the difference between you and them: you can teach!
@ruzzackovich4067
@ruzzackovich4067 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed,... i learn a lot from him , but still my work result always far beyond Hope.... LoL , trash can friendly hahaha..
@christophejuge4130
@christophejuge4130 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! Great info, I have been building models for way to long! Hahaha! I would like to know what is your experience with Testors? I bought loads when I lived in the States 20 years ago and the are still good for the most part. I've not seen any other manufacturers that do metalizer buffable Paints. I'm not even sure Testors is in business anymore. Just wondering if u had any experience with these Paints. Cheers!
@GrimblyGreeble
@GrimblyGreeble 3 жыл бұрын
The modeler has uploaded again; REJOICE!
@NightShiftScaleModels
@NightShiftScaleModels 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone called me "the modeler" before, appreciate that 😆
@mohidh1954
@mohidh1954 3 жыл бұрын
@@NightShiftScaleModels you really are The Modeller, your models are on an another level!
@handletemplate
@handletemplate 3 жыл бұрын
REJOICE! HE HAS RETURNED!
@wellardme
@wellardme 3 жыл бұрын
Not only are you a mega professional modeller, but your English is also absolutely AMAZING!!!
@NightShiftScaleModels
@NightShiftScaleModels 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It's not perfect, but narrating videos every week helps a lot!
@wellardme
@wellardme 3 жыл бұрын
@@NightShiftScaleModels I'm English and a teacher of English) Believe me, you are heads above manyyyy native speakers; to explain this hobby in clear fine detail in your 2nd language and to inspire thousands of us... Impressive and I'm sure everyone here agrees with me)
@coobeck7631
@coobeck7631 3 жыл бұрын
The only exception to this is the word...REVELL
@tomasbezilla7881
@tomasbezilla7881 3 жыл бұрын
Pretended accent is really annoying on other hand
@kalnieminen65
@kalnieminen65 3 жыл бұрын
@@NightShiftScaleModels You speak perfect broken english
@alex_greeco
@alex_greeco 3 жыл бұрын
Martin, my friend, thank you for your passion and your work. As for me, you are the best modeling storyteller I have ever seen and heard.
@NightShiftScaleModels
@NightShiftScaleModels 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@timoti8222
@timoti8222 3 жыл бұрын
That MENG tortoise would be an interesting build to watch. I can’t imagine what kind of weathering you could do on such big, flat surface.
@G60syncro
@G60syncro 3 жыл бұрын
Love these cut-out videos! Never feel sorry for not putting out actual modelling content, this is just as good and relevant!! They make nice little breaks in between ongoing projects and are just as informative!! Keep doing them, there's so many topics that can be touched upon!!
@ennobepunkt
@ennobepunkt 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your view on the topic. I think everyone has to find his or her personal favourite, but recommendations certainly help shortening the effort one has to make to find it :)
@NightShiftScaleModels
@NightShiftScaleModels 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Back in my day Vallejo and Vallejo Air were all the rage because Spanish modelers were using them in their magazine articles, and then it was suddenly Tamiya all the way for airbrushing :) And I gotta admit, back then I immediately found Tamiya paints to be easier to spray than Vallejo.
@TheSwedeMcCoy
@TheSwedeMcCoy 3 жыл бұрын
@@NightShiftScaleModels Few paints is as forgiving to airbrush as just the Tammy paints!
@lukeholsten1436
@lukeholsten1436 3 жыл бұрын
"Model is not a spoon" Is my favorite quote of 2021.
@leonardopinhel1219
@leonardopinhel1219 3 жыл бұрын
Actually even the chemistry is different.. the adherence and the the results are different on both.... but, yea, who knows.. maybe there is a hobby that turn about painting spoons and we dont know about... you can do nice faces on it hehhe
@zer0bre
@zer0bre 3 жыл бұрын
"There is no spoon."
@aac7183
@aac7183 3 жыл бұрын
Not only are you a phenomenal modeller but you are a fantastic communicator . Very engaging and easy to listen to . 👍🏼
@mydemon
@mydemon 3 жыл бұрын
This guy is very humble, authentic, and endearing. Thank you for such quality content. I'm a huge, huge fan!
@eddyjuteau589
@eddyjuteau589 2 жыл бұрын
Me too!! Well said!
@rubenr.g9963
@rubenr.g9963 3 жыл бұрын
Das Werk Panther in the back... very nice :D
@NightShiftScaleModels
@NightShiftScaleModels 3 жыл бұрын
Soon, hopefully? :D
@johnhrichak3451
@johnhrichak3451 3 жыл бұрын
My friend, greetings from a USer of Slovakian descent! Absolutely enjoy all your uploads. They contain mountains of information smothered in witty personality. Due to you, I have ordered my first tank model after 60 years of modeling (Tamiya 1/35 King Tiger). Please keep the videos coming sir.
@tobysellors941
@tobysellors941 3 жыл бұрын
I was looking for new paints, this is perfect timing!
@NightShiftScaleModels
@NightShiftScaleModels 3 жыл бұрын
So which ones seem good to you after this vid? :)
@tobysellors941
@tobysellors941 3 жыл бұрын
@@NightShiftScaleModels needed a primer mainly so I'll try and pick up a Mr surfacer. Can't stand cans though, as my Tamiya spray can is uncontrollable and my model was dripping with paint. Ruined the whitewash.
@wellardme
@wellardme 3 жыл бұрын
@@tobysellors941 i stopped using Tamiya spray especially on planes. It leaves a pretty thick layer so when removing masking tape, especially around a canopy, it left a mess, like orange peel.
@NightShiftScaleModels
@NightShiftScaleModels 3 жыл бұрын
Paint spray cans are really hard to control, seen that several times. But primers are actually pretty good, I used the spray can Mr. Surfacer several times on this channel. You need to apply it with quick passes and let it dry before spraying more, it'll level out beautifully without flooding any details.
@tobysellors941
@tobysellors941 3 жыл бұрын
@@NightShiftScaleModels awesome! Thanks for the help!
@jimtalcott4009
@jimtalcott4009 3 жыл бұрын
Without doubt the best tutorial I’ve seen on the general subject of “paint”. You are a natural teacher.
@oraszuletik
@oraszuletik 3 жыл бұрын
I always had issues with Mr. Surfacer, due to the relative fast drying time. It became thick, already when I sprayed from the can. Solution found: I just put the can into warm water, before using, which made lover viscosity and use it like that.
@1986fritzthecat
@1986fritzthecat 3 жыл бұрын
i only do brush painting gaming models, but i love vallejo. between the size of the range, price, and availability... its probably the best for my needs
@jacobakana5649
@jacobakana5649 3 жыл бұрын
I’m happy you made this! I just got a bunch of Tamiya paints for Christmas. Good to know I made the right choice.
@katyusha_kat
@katyusha_kat 3 жыл бұрын
From the models I see in the background, I would like to see you building that Trumpeter T-35.
@NightShiftScaleModels
@NightShiftScaleModels 3 жыл бұрын
That's a beautiful kit with amazing details, also very accurate!
@jogados
@jogados 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see someone else endorising exact same 3 favorite brands. Tamiya, Lifecolor and Mr. Hobby. Can't go wrong.. The only downside of Lifecolor is they're somewhat hard to find at full range, and the Italian store selling them charges 15 euros for shipping where the set itself cost 18....so yeah, no. Most of mine came from ebay for some reasonable prices.
@rafaelvoncina6036
@rafaelvoncina6036 3 жыл бұрын
Martin, thank you so much for this analysis, you are very kind. I used Vallejo Model Color and Model Air on the company's white primer. I thin all of these with their thinner and they work really well. They don't really need to be thinned but I tend to overpaint, so it's better if I apply the products in multiple, thin layers. However - the primer needs 48 hours and the paint layers 24 to dry properly, otherwise the polyurethane base will lift and peel just as you report. Ammo by Mig Jimenez will have their first day out in a couple of days, once the primer on my latest model is dry. Thanks again for the wonderful work you do. Greetings from Slovenia.
@MrPolicekarim
@MrPolicekarim 2 жыл бұрын
I kept hearing that the primer would peel off like it was made of rubber! I also heard a wargamer say that the primer when airbrushed took 15 minutes to dry and 1-hour brush painted!
@earh0xable
@earh0xable 3 жыл бұрын
Those AK 3rd gen paints are my new favorites. Thanks for all the info, great as always!
@sheldonjack4221
@sheldonjack4221 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is so good, probably the best modelling videos on KZbin in my opinion! Considering how good the community is, maybe there could be a community awards episode for the anniversary of the channel? People could vote on their favourite models of Martin's and their favourite models posted by other community members in various categories. Just a suggestion. Stay awesome :)
@user-cp4jc5my9n
@user-cp4jc5my9n 7 ай бұрын
After painting with Tamiya i clean the airbrush with a ordinary window-cleaner and it works perfect. 👍👍👍
@Matt-us3jp
@Matt-us3jp 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding chipping being harder with lacquers and specifically with MRP, it is true but only for the standard method. Using a standard brush with water over MRP with chipping fluid won't do much unless you rub really hard. From my perspective that's an advantage as now, you can deliberately chip the surface with scribers and other things such as fiberglass pens with much finer detail similar to what you can do with painting it while being able to create unique effects.
@joecoulson2904
@joecoulson2904 3 жыл бұрын
I spent the first minute nosying at all of your kits and had to rewind because i didn't listen to a word you said 😂😂
@bencreateddisco
@bencreateddisco 3 жыл бұрын
man you have such a nice happy energy. thanks for the overview, very helpful.
@kanabapuka
@kanabapuka 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your opinion - I am going to experiment more.
@karkanrey1463
@karkanrey1463 2 жыл бұрын
You’ve reignited my childhood love of models. Thank you
@DazP2835
@DazP2835 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, really appreciate this video, i understand it may seem obvious to many, but for us noobs its amazingly informative, look forward to more tutorials like this.
@SmallSoldier
@SmallSoldier 3 жыл бұрын
There are lots of paint choices out there Martin. I agree with you on the Mission Models paints. I rarely hear anyone rave about them, It's mostly failed attempts and tears... lol! I've always relied on Tamiya, AK, Vallejo, and Gunze for the best results. I've also had good success (like you said) thinning AK acrylics and Vallejos with MLT. Thanks for posting your thoughts. Cheers!
@burtgnejs1924
@burtgnejs1924 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative. I'm just starting model painting again. Last time as a kid with humbrols or any kind of paint I could get hold of, sometimes with.. interesting results.
@mpetersen6
@mpetersen6 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't built a plastic kit in decades. But I do enjoy watching modeling videos. Yours I find very enjoyable simply because you don't take yourself too seriously. It's a hobby unless your are one of the small number of modelers that build professionally. When I was building the variety of paints was far lower. Or maybe the local shop just didn't carry that much. But what l really liked was Floquill.
@kudukilla
@kudukilla 3 жыл бұрын
FYI for those that don’t know, UMP primer is also the same as Stylenrez and One Shot
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 3 жыл бұрын
Except it's sold by jabba the hutt.
@mansbergdahl5427
@mansbergdahl5427 3 жыл бұрын
Challenge: Please try ”Revell” one more time.
@NightShiftScaleModels
@NightShiftScaleModels 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good challenge :D
@tasketehimesama
@tasketehimesama 3 жыл бұрын
No! Hahahahaha
@gabrielolsson2033
@gabrielolsson2033 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Revell Type VII/C in 1/72. Pretty please uncle :D
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 3 жыл бұрын
I'd go with a Revell plane or helicopter. Not so sure about their tanks.
@oo7killer1
@oo7killer1 3 жыл бұрын
@@ScottKenny1978 I've build the "new" uh-1c from revell last month and the fitment was horrible, i don't know if all the helli's from revell are the same, but avoid this one
@the-primered-thumb
@the-primered-thumb 3 жыл бұрын
My armour and sci fi builds are coming along nicely thanks to your tutorial and explanations ,thank you Mr Nightshift 😊
@pawekorczak7302
@pawekorczak7302 3 жыл бұрын
Oh dear... I remember my first paints. They were revell enamels, i bought all the paints that were in my first model manual (Revell's Spad XIII). I got completely no idea what is the difference between enamel and acrylic. After some time, when i was doing 3rd model the paint was not being as usable as it used to be. It got thick. I checked the internet and found out that i need to dilute them. I read that i can dilute acrylics with water. I still thought my paints were acrylics and tried to dilute 1st paint with water... Yeah it went to bin. Later i ordered acrylic alcohol thinner. It somehow worked! The paint was behaving strange but at least it was not thick XD luckilly my friend told me that my paints are enamels and i bought good vallejo acrylics. That was a milestone in my model making ;)
@NightShiftScaleModels
@NightShiftScaleModels 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, my first experience with Revell enamel paints was when I was a tiny little lad. My parents bought me a Titanic model for Christmas and they assembled and painted it for me because I was too little for that. Later when it got a chipped in a few places, as I used to play with it, I wanted to repaint the hull. But then disaster struck, the beautiful flat black paint turned into high gloss after I painted over it with the very same flat black! That's probably when I gave up on Revell paints and I was only like, what, 6 years old?
@Jankubicek78
@Jankubicek78 3 жыл бұрын
I did the same mistake, but one even worse, I didn't know that I have to mix the revells so at the upper part of color was more thinner and result was glossy , after some time the color became matt blob so I bought new one🤦‍♂️
@j.mcq.8418
@j.mcq.8418 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you didn't let any alcohol touch those Vallejo paints!
@johnc.4871
@johnc.4871 3 жыл бұрын
You can not mix incompatible bases. Water for water based or acrylic binder because too much water weakens the binder. Thinners for non water based. Enamel can be polished for higher lust.
@jonbell3020
@jonbell3020 3 жыл бұрын
Just ramping myself up to get back into it after 30 odd years.........cleared out the spare room for a work space, got a couple of kits, got the sounds ready, got the compressor with a starter airbrush, got the Tamiya super thin glue, got the superfine tweezers, sanding sticks and putty on order and................ Vallejo paints!!!! Bugger!!.... very good video though .......
@haroldquill8761
@haroldquill8761 10 ай бұрын
I like Tamiya , but recently have been using AK 3gen, taken a bit to get the mixing ratio right but now am really liking them. Thanks for your video.
@BrenGunR
@BrenGunR 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent timing! I am just getting back into scale modelling after almost 30 years (how things have changed!), and was just starting to research this stuff. Thank you!
@NightShiftScaleModels
@NightShiftScaleModels 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Then you might find the next video helpful as well!
@BrenGunR
@BrenGunR 3 жыл бұрын
@@NightShiftScaleModels I'm very much looking forward to it!
@sirrathersplendid4825
@sirrathersplendid4825 3 жыл бұрын
Ditto. Back in the 1980s it was Humbrol enamels all the way; very hard to buy anything else. I still have some of my old brushes and they look like the fur of a flea-bitten mongrel. Acrylics are so much more user-friendly. Yet oddly, I miss the old Humbrol smell.
@msee383
@msee383 Жыл бұрын
Faaaaantastic. I’m new to modelling, and have purchase Tamiya paints. They seem a nightmare with all the mixing/thinners etc but videos from professionals like yourself are great.
@ivanbechara4069
@ivanbechara4069 3 жыл бұрын
FINNALY IVE BEEN SEARCHING A PAINT GUIDE!!!!
@Martin_C4
@Martin_C4 3 жыл бұрын
That boxes with models behind you looks so cool. Hope 2021 is going to be someway better ;D ,but thankfully we have your videos.
@NightShiftScaleModels
@NightShiftScaleModels 3 жыл бұрын
It's my new default filming backdrop :)
@Martin_C4
@Martin_C4 3 жыл бұрын
@@NightShiftScaleModels Very nice :D
@jabonorte
@jabonorte 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that I'm no the only one who doesn't get on with Mig paints, though the primer is great. Had mixed results with Life color - had some beautiful finishes with it but struggled to get details to work because it would just spider everywhere. Hataka is the easiest pure acrylic I've used and I'm using it now. It sprays easily and goes on exactly as you intended it to. Lacquers give a great finish and are easy to use but moving away from them for health reasons.
@Krzysztof_z_Bagien
@Krzysztof_z_Bagien 3 жыл бұрын
That's what I needed! I was just thinking about buying some paints, as I recently got back to modeling after... well, to many years, and I didn't know which paints to buy, which are good, etc. - and boom! Uncle Night Shift posts a video exactly on that subject! :D Thank You, Uncle Night Shift :D
@stephenbridges2791
@stephenbridges2791 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with almost everything you said. Big fan of Tamiya. Can't stand Vallejo. My rule of thumb for using Mr. Surfacer, is; the smaller the scale the higher number of Mr. Surfacer you should use. 1/48 use 1000, 1/72 use 1500 etc... Glad to see you back after the holiday.
@Tharringbone
@Tharringbone 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing I can add is if anyone is having trouble getting a smooth finish with brushed acrylics, I started adding a tiny bit of Liquitex Flow-Aid and it’s made a massive difference. Really great video!
@BennyCFD
@BennyCFD 3 жыл бұрын
Flow aid is nothing more then soapy water to lower surface tension. Make your own and save some money
@Tharringbone
@Tharringbone 3 жыл бұрын
@@BennyCFD I’ve tried in the past and never managed to get results this nice,. I’d imagine that has more to do with my ratios than anything else, but I think I’ll survive the five dollar bottle that’s maybe a fifth empty after a year of use.
@emanuelmorales83
@emanuelmorales83 3 жыл бұрын
You need to test AK712 acrylic thinner, are amazing and work with all paints, included Tamiya Acrylic hybrid.
@peter9314
@peter9314 3 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%. Tamiya for airbrush. They smell a little bit but they work fantastic.
@shanestrains4724
@shanestrains4724 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Very helpful indeed. I agree 💯 on the Mr. Surfacer Primers. I usually buy the cans when I can't find the jars at my LHS and decant them into bottles right away. Less waste and you don't have to thin them for your airbrush. Keep up the good work brother!
@byeongsookim6868
@byeongsookim6868 3 жыл бұрын
This video is really important and useful video for lots of modelers. Thanks for your nice videos Martin. I could learned lots of things from you.
@JJ-cf7nb
@JJ-cf7nb 3 жыл бұрын
I've tried all the paints for airbrushing and keep going back to Tamiya and Gunze Mr. Color. Just can't beat those two brands with Mr. Leveling Thinner.
@NightShiftScaleModels
@NightShiftScaleModels 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Haven't tried Gunze myself although aircraft modellers love them, which means they must be super smooth. They also come in H and C ranges, but I have no idea which one is which, I guess one is pure lacquer and the other is something like Tamiya.
@JJ-cf7nb
@JJ-cf7nb 3 жыл бұрын
@@NightShiftScaleModels The new Tamiya lacquers are not compatible with the Gunze Mr. Leveling Thinner. The Mr. Levelling causes the paint to actually get thicker and sprays a really coarse powdery rough paint. Best stick with the Tamiya lacquer thinner.
@johngalt6929
@johngalt6929 3 жыл бұрын
Gunze airbrushes just fine. I thin with Tamiya 20A or iso- alcohol. The Gunze RAL Luftwaffe colors seem very accurate and are easy to use. I use Tamiya for armor kits. See no reason to change.
@mattislindehag3065
@mattislindehag3065 3 жыл бұрын
Oh no. I just got in to the hobby thanks to you and i have a tank ready for painting but as things turned out i bought valejo paints and the useless thinner. Thanks for the warning. I'll definetly get another white for the whitewash i intend to chip.
@csh5414
@csh5414 3 жыл бұрын
I have been modelling and figure painting for about 30 years. I started on Humbrol enamels, transitioning through Tamiya and Vellejo as my main paints. I started using Lifecolor about a year ago I love them. I still use all the other brands for various jobs but lifecolor is my new go to. Thanks for the video man.
@yalelingoz6346
@yalelingoz6346 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Uncle Nightshift.I could make pretty eduucated guesses about most of these from watching your videos ;) but it was nice to hear you say it and be certain. and thanks for the tip on Vallejo and chipping.
@Road.Tripping
@Road.Tripping 3 жыл бұрын
An excellent tutorial Martin. Thanks for such an info-dense video. There's a lot to digest there!
@PeteGay
@PeteGay 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Martin! Great class on model paint fundamentals. Really appreciate that you cleared up some basic rules, given all the mediums available to modelers today.
@onecheesey
@onecheesey 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent overview of what's out there. Unbiased & fair. Nice one 👍👍👍
@joshuatan7628
@joshuatan7628 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video, really helps a lot as I’ve started to look beyond Tamiya for stuff to paint my models!
@mikeb2507
@mikeb2507 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic summary. You reaffirmed my experiences, with your expertise and solid assesments. Your presentations always make me feel like I can slowly achieve the same skills and satisfaction with my own models. Long way to go for me yet though.
@Eteric
@Eteric 10 ай бұрын
We call the Mr. Color Lacquer Leveling Thinner "Unicorn Tears." :) I'm a lacquer guy. Mainly because it's so forgiving when it comes to thinning for airbrushing. Also no tip drying issues. Another neat thing is that if your coat of paint has a flaw, you can actually reactivate it with a tiny bit of thinner. It never really "cures" like acrylics do.
@haroldquill8761
@haroldquill8761 10 ай бұрын
Yep, I had the same experience with Mission Models paints. Good video. Good old Tamiya paints. The gold Standard.
@thediddly
@thediddly 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Martin, my modelling skills are ok but always stress about paint, mixing and thinners and what is compatible. This has helped.
@chiselcheswick5673
@chiselcheswick5673 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video. Agree almost exactly... Mr Surfacer is by far the best primer... Tamiya with a lacquer or cellulose thinner for air brushing. Plus add a bit of tamiya clear to get a smooth finish. I still use tamiya clear for varnish. Vallejo and games workshop for hand / brush painting, thinned and touch of flow improver. Just tried using exclusively on a model. Vallejo primer is ok if you don't need to sand / polish back, but the Vallejo gloss clear was a disaster. Applying decals with micro set and sol would fetch the gloss off so easily. Great video again 👍👍
@jerrypickard1709
@jerrypickard1709 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, I have a question. I want to start mixing my Tamiya paints with x-22 and lacquer with retarder type. What percentage or ml. of each would you mix into a Tamiya 23ml. bottle?
@gasperbucinel
@gasperbucinel 3 жыл бұрын
Do I see panther from das werk in the background?? You should do this next. By the way I bought the "rutscher"
@jilthunder2276
@jilthunder2276 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this helpful video with all these hints - concerning my favorite colour when it f.e. comes to aircraft aluminium colour, there never has been a better product than Heller Humbrols "polished Aluminium", I think. It has been my favorite for years now and its use never ended in a dissapointment. Great stuff!
@christianletzerich6523
@christianletzerich6523 3 жыл бұрын
100th episode!!! Keep up the amazing work, Martin!
@THROTTLEPOWER
@THROTTLEPOWER 3 жыл бұрын
Good to hear your input on this subject......................... 👍👍👍👍
@MrSvenITA
@MrSvenITA 3 жыл бұрын
Lifecolor and true Earth...specially his filters: I found them very practical for color modulation and washes.... Thanks for the video Martin!
@Blockio1999
@Blockio1999 3 жыл бұрын
As.... dubious as their kits are, I can highly, highly recommend Revell enamels. Straightup black magic, expecially for their mattes and metallics. I have cans that are labelled as "produced in West Germany", and they still work. Well, at least some of them.
@-coelian-detlev2274
@-coelian-detlev2274 3 жыл бұрын
Good opinions about your paints you use .What I don´t understand your problems with Tamiyas Primercan ,I use it all the time I don´t wash my models all the time .And it set optimal no orangepeel and never gone off. I use white majorly and also grey and primer red and I am very amazed of the result .For black priming I use spraila matt black spray this one is very cheap and big cans and it never fails also .With paints I fully agree with you .Tamiya is best paint for decades.With the new retader you also able to paint them by brush and with airbrush you got a smoother surface .Good to see they got an new thinner also with retarder inside I need to have a look at my local shop for it .For the acrylic stuff I use the same stuff as you do .I totally agree with your opinion in all casses .For cleaning I use Mig perfect cleaner at least good stuff as well .After I use my Airbush I give it a shot with Balistol spray this prefend the needle to stuck if I don´t use it for a while .
@johnzaferes2257
@johnzaferes2257 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your channel! Keep up up the good work! I like Tamiya paints for airbrushing and Vallejo for brush painting.
@randomdudeontheinternet4389
@randomdudeontheinternet4389 3 жыл бұрын
Oh nice, I'll definitely try those recommendations. These are my experiences: Primer: Never had problems with the Tamiya spray can primer, but also never tried anything else. Might try Mr.Surfacer as I have not a lot of primer left. Water based: Revell is pretty hit or miss, they have a few pretty good ones and a lot of awful ones. I have had bad experiences with Ammo, as they just were way to thin, maybe I got a bad batch or something. Vallejo is pretty good in my book. Gotta try some more Lifecolor, I only used one for the sponge technique. Hybrid: I love the Tamiya paints! Lacquer: Never really went into lacquers, because of the air brush cleaning aspect. Varnishes: Tamiya worked great for me so far. Gonna try the VMS tho Thinners: Thanks a lot for the recommendations, I have only tried the X-20A so far and I was semi satisified. Cleaning: Mostly IPA. I have bunch of the stuff around here, because of bike suspension services and resin 3D print cleaning, so that's my go to.
@NightShiftScaleModels
@NightShiftScaleModels 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely input! Lacquers are easy to clean, you can use IPA just like with hybrids. Tamiya was my favorite varnish for years but VMS really changed my opinion, it's much smoother (or rather, more user-friendly and achieving a perfectly smooth surface is thus much easier). I have a few bottles of alcohol, but I'm keeping them only for my 3D prints and bike cleaning (suspension and drivetrain) 😆 And considering how rare IPA is these days (last March it was sold out everywhere), I don't want to spend too much of it!
@randomdudeontheinternet4389
@randomdudeontheinternet4389 3 жыл бұрын
@@NightShiftScaleModels Yeah, that's probably a good call with the IPA, I just had a few liters of it laying around ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Now that I think of it, I could've sold it half a year ago for ridiculous prices haha.
@ljscalemodels526
@ljscalemodels526 2 ай бұрын
Hey NS very helpful video thanks for sharing, cheers Liam
@elytolson983
@elytolson983 3 жыл бұрын
I just made a mash up model using some of your videos to help (armour texture) it was a Porsche 911 with an 88mm flak cannon mounted in the passenger seat. Also had armour taken from an old panther kit I had
@NightShiftScaleModels
@NightShiftScaleModels 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a car from Death Race :)
@1965GJS13
@1965GJS13 3 жыл бұрын
The smell completely rules out 99% of lacquer-based products for me personally, including any/all Mr Hobby products, including Mr Levelling Thinner that I know a lot of modellers swear by.
@romansthirteen-four8626
@romansthirteen-four8626 2 жыл бұрын
Brother - I use even cheaper acrylic paints - Folkart acrylic & Apple Barrel. You get a lot more paint for often 1/3 of the cost. There are a HUGE variety of colors to work with, even though I struggle with figuring out which of their colors match the Tamiya color Uncle Night Shift was using, once I figure it out, or come close - they work well (so far). It sucks that there are other companies out there dwarfed by uber expensive specialized model paint companies which triple the price for less than half the paint. Also - I could have sworn by your accent you were from New Jersey, was totally shocked you weren’t. Just kidding - I recognize the Boston dialect. Keep up the good work and tutorial style. I may use cheaper paints, sometimes but I definitely apply many of your techniques. Thank you!
@edbe7385
@edbe7385 3 жыл бұрын
Nice always good to find out about some different products. I will definitely try out the VMS Varnish, I've been struggling with the Vallejo varnishes for a while now.
@fotomakr
@fotomakr 2 жыл бұрын
Good review and educational on some I haven’t used. Similar experience with Vallejo and it’s primer, pretty much my go to brush paint now once I discovered how nice Mr Color/Hobby and Tamiya spray (especially with Leveling Thinner). Good to know about airbrush seals on Mr Tool Cleaner 😱
@abcgefp
@abcgefp 3 жыл бұрын
I JUST bought an airbrush and compressor, so this video could not have been more timely. Thank you! Very informative and cool.
@Movingpath
@Movingpath 3 жыл бұрын
Which one did you buy? I’m a beginner and there’s soooo many to choose!
@abcgefp
@abcgefp 3 жыл бұрын
@@Movingpath compressor: NO-NAME brand Master Blaster II, from Spray Gunner. Airbrush: badger patriot (I think). Not cheap, but not crazy expensive like Iwata. I still haven't received it and it's my first foray, so I don't know if I can recommend it yet. We'll see.
@sirrathersplendid4825
@sirrathersplendid4825 3 жыл бұрын
I bought one too, in the Black Friday sales. A non-branded Chinese model. Most important to get a compressor with an attached air tank which evens out the airflow and means the pump is not working all the time. Quite bulky but adds only $15-$20 to the price. Altogether I paid about $100 for airbrush + compressor with bottle.
@Movingpath
@Movingpath 3 жыл бұрын
@@abcgefp thanks for the reply. I was looking at Iwata ones but I’ll have a look at badger too thanks again :)
@Movingpath
@Movingpath 3 жыл бұрын
@@sirrathersplendid4825 that was a good deal! Thanks for the information
@BushPigADV
@BushPigADV 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for taking the time to chat with me on patreon. Keep up the good work man. We love it!!!
@ThrowawayModeller
@ThrowawayModeller 3 жыл бұрын
Good video. I love how you explain your reasoning with MissionModels. Not everyone likes the same paints despite recognizing the quality! I've tried Vallejo myself and I still regret spending my money on it - too hard to work with, dry tips, splattering, etc., while at the same time I love Revell and MiG paints, the latter of which literally caused some people to give me a look on modelling shows! LOL
@alexandrapasca50
@alexandrapasca50 Жыл бұрын
Very nicely thought video! My experiences with the paints you have mentioned are very similar; the Tamiya primer in the underdog here; the one in the square bottle is very good when diluted with MLT. In my book, the white one is better than any other one. Mr Surfacer Base white it was a disappointment for me.
@japanfour292
@japanfour292 Жыл бұрын
Glad you mentioned life color. My local hobby shop has them and i need a good brushable paint.
@gooberdoober2286
@gooberdoober2286 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I’m a newbie to airbrushing, so all tips are helpful.
@wenyidong8563
@wenyidong8563 3 жыл бұрын
Tamiya are the best! I am even using Tamiya my dad bought 20 years ago now. Mr. Hobby's Lacquer paints are awesome too. The only thing about these two brands are color. You need to mix and get the tone you want. Otherwise, they are perfect.
@sirrathersplendid4825
@sirrathersplendid4825 3 жыл бұрын
Bought my first Tamiya paints a few weeks ago. Thought at first that the bottles were huge for the price but per ml they in fact cost much the same as Vallejo. I still haven’t got used to the acrylic-laquer hybrid nature of the Tamiya paint. My favourite so far is Life Colour.
@wenyidong8563
@wenyidong8563 3 жыл бұрын
@@sirrathersplendid4825 Exactly! Each bottle of Tamiya paint contains about 20 % X-20A thinner, so each ml is even more expensive.
@7carlxx
@7carlxx 3 жыл бұрын
About to watch this. I ordered a Airfix starter kit two days ago and I'm pumped
@ScottM
@ScottM 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video. I have always used Vallejo but recently I have been getting into Mission Models and a little bit of tamiya but just for brushing, yeah go figure right. Keep up the great work and all the best.
@andytaylor9032
@andytaylor9032 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Martin... used them all my friend and still find myself going back to Tamiya
@MX5Fanatic
@MX5Fanatic 3 жыл бұрын
Another useful and entertaining video. Thank you, Martin.
@walamma
@walamma 3 жыл бұрын
At least your opinions are honest. I only wish I could et my hand on the Lifecolor thinner and MRP paints. Anywhere, you forgot to mention about mixing lacquer thinner with acrylic paint (especially Tamiya), works wonderful.
@kenjohnston8173
@kenjohnston8173 11 ай бұрын
Most excellent, im in total agreement w tamiya paints. Havent tried ak, but heard its also fantastic. Valejo is goto for hand psinting, bec its pigment ratio is high. Now if i could figure out hairspray chipping, lol, yea.
@stallebrass
@stallebrass 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the video. I mostly use AK real colour for spraying and AK acrylics for hand painting figures (I have a couple Tamiya and Mr Colors). 100% Agree that Mr Surfacer is simply the best primer, especially with Mr Levelling Thinner - they stink though. I found Stynylrez has good coverage and a nice finish but 20% of the time would splutter and clog the airbrush, its very thick and needs higher pressures. AK ultra matte varnish is good a acrylic finish. Yeah, that Mr Tool cleaner is seriously strong, I use it a lot, even on my airbrush which has one rubber o-ring and ptfe seals so I always use a lube afterwards... it just sucks out the moisture out of the rubber making them so brittle. VMS gloss is great too as is Mr Color Gloss (theres also a UV version). I've used AK acrylic thinner and AK thinner, both are good but using Mr Levelling thinner more and more for lacquers.
@Panzermeister36
@Panzermeister36 3 жыл бұрын
Remember that they changed the AK Real Color formula and they are now pure lacquers, not hybrids they were at first :)
@AverageLatvianDude
@AverageLatvianDude 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video, man. I like your videos, they are somewhat natural. As goes for paints, as I am beginer to airbrushing, tamiya is for now my go-to. I have done as some people do - fill up the bottle till the lip with X-20A and its good to go. Does anyone else have not-so-good expirience with Tamiya white color??? with brush??? but over all - nice video, have some notes write down. Do we will see Kondensator build in future???
@NightShiftScaleModels
@NightShiftScaleModels 3 жыл бұрын
White paints from any brand are hard to apply by brush, I think it helps when you have a light colored base coat underneath. I'll build the Kondensator, but not just yet :)
@AverageLatvianDude
@AverageLatvianDude 3 жыл бұрын
@@NightShiftScaleModels thanks, man! Will keep it in mind about white paints. by the way, for my first models I didnt use any primer, and tamiya paints did a good job. No pealing off or something. Maybe just a good luck. but thats just "by the way. And I will wait for c"kondensator, as its one of my "wish list"kits, it looks diferent from usual tracked artilery peaces.
@julianhullis1567
@julianhullis1567 3 жыл бұрын
Very useful, thanks! As someone returning to the hobby after many years the amount of products available and their different combinations can be quite intimidating, especially on a limited budget. The fog has cleared :)
@asdf9890
@asdf9890 9 ай бұрын
Same situation here. Haven’t built since the 80s when all I had were Testors enamels! I also didn’t know about thinning or any of that back then.
@richardtallent8175
@richardtallent8175 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video, thank you. Very little was said about enamels. There are quite a few of us who use them. Humbrol enamels are my favorite brand. Both brush painting, & airbrushing. Plus i can use hardware store grade thinner, as well as Humbrol brand thinner. Thank you.
@AeonVoom
@AeonVoom 3 жыл бұрын
Some color pigments are just naturally translucent. Most notably pure yellow, red, blue and purple. And that is normally independent of the medium they are suspended in (acrylic, alcohol, enamel or oil). the best way to counter that is to undercoat with that specific color and a little white added. or you take colors that are similar to the tone. light ochre or sand for yellow. I'm by now also pretty brand agnostic. I use what works and some companies produce a great colors and seemingly neglect others. while some brands just fill that specific niche. I use mostly acrylics these days, mostly because i only have a single room appartment and can't have stinky colors there. In acrylics i mostly use Army painter washes, Vallejo model and model air, warcolours (their one coats are a dream and shoot phantastic) and some citadel paints for base coats. I'm pretty content with the vallejo airbrush thinner and flow improver. As for cleaning: Just bog standard high percentage isopropanol.
@tacticalmattfoley
@tacticalmattfoley 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I couldn’t find a description of AK’s Real Colors under any eBay shopping site. Didn’t feel like going to their home page.
@joshuakamenski2448
@joshuakamenski2448 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question, where do you buy your Wilder products? Especially the Aqualine series. Or does Wilder no longer produce? Thank you for a reply
@peterdenijs2088
@peterdenijs2088 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the useful tips! Love all of your work by the way!
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