Hidden Vocation Innate Bonuses Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen

[@ll-bz8re]

This game is still giving us things to uncover a decade later. Thank you so much for being one of THE most dedicated DD content creators out there.

[@erigclapton8717]

tbh the game itself lack of skill information

[@thrin7991]

This is if the creators do not support the players who have to dig everything out of the game themselves.

[@The_Rift]

I have no idea how l missed this man. Your dedication is truly admirable Jason. Also seems like the yt algo is blessing your vids lately. Love to see it.

[@Nihil0.0]

Thanks Sam. That youtube ai is a funny 1. Still no Raid ad? Good job. I agree.

[@The_Rift]

@@Nihil0.0 haha yeah tell me about it man. Nah raid is not for me.

[@KingZealotTactics]

@@Nihil0.0 You should branch out, try new things i'm sure you can make a career out of it or at least be a nice side income.

[@dmac93065]

Your level of dedication is off the charts. Excellent! Can't wait to see how you approach Dogma 2.

[@nolanstrebel9405]

I was so confused as to why I could petrify enemies with only 25 arrows as ranger, but needed like 30-40 for strider if I wasn't using Corkscrew. This is fun to see the realization of things I've noticed as you mentioned them.

[@tomidomusic]

I used a single Spiral petrification arrow (w/gf rusted bow) 3 or 4 times against Garm where the same type of arrow with other vocations took 20 or more.

[@shao5141]

Need a mod where Nihil is on the ending credits for his tremendous contribution to the community ;)

[@level12lobster8]

For the Mystic Knight counter shield skills perfect block. This is from the code. Counter adds 5 frames. Riposte/feint adds 10 frames. This is a full section of that part of the code for perfect blocking with some details. *----- This is how long the effect lasts. Duration is actually based on frames (at 30fps) and not time.* *----- This is how the blessed shield skill heals on block. Every shield counter skill has this code actually.* *----- Same as above but adjusted value for a perfect block. * ----- This allows the healing from block/perfect block to heal past white. Present on all shield counter skills.* *----- Only applies to Demonspite and Demonswrath. How much charge is gained from blocking.* *----- Same as above but adjusted charge gain from a perfect block.* *----- Sets charge amount required to be fully charged. This value is halve what you want. Set it to 1000, you will need 2000.* *----- This determines how many extra frames you have for perfect blocking.* NOTE: While the effectiveFrame is based on 30FPS, the PC version doesn't utilize frame rate past 30 fps for calculating the duration of counter skills. Having more than 30 fps won't cause the skill to last a shorter duration. Duration all enchants are in seconds, not frames. YES, the those two lines for charge scale do say "gurad" instead of guard. No, they don't need to be corrected.

[@uggachugga760]

Apparently lightning counter has more frames than riposte/feint. Is this possibly a glitch, or intentional?

[@level12lobster8]

@@uggachugga760 Most likely a typo. This code is actually not THE code used internally for skills. This is more akin to an initialization file and thus why modders can't actually add anything that doesn't already exist to the game. You can actually delete some of these files and the game will still run just fine with default values for the skills. However, you can add parameters from other skills in this file and it will correctly apply them to that skill. At the top of each of the skills is a header of how many "sections" to include. One of my favorite things is having the riposte/feints also apply the same weapon enchant on perfect parry.

[@Soloesecutore]

Omw to modify the code for 100% frame parry

[@JayUchiha7]

Man you are truly the keeper of knowledge when it comes to dragon's dogma, here we are a decade later and you're still dropping new info. Can't wait to see what you do, when the new one drops.

[@b.canpolat2182]

Such dedication! Amazing work my friend, thank you:)

[@ijustgotspiritedaway]

Great video! Really glad to see someone is dedicated enough to research this game's hidden mechanics!

[@theholynut8598]

You see, the Ranger's innate ability is to shit out damage with tenfold flurry

[@TenebTV]

Best Dragon's Dogma youtube channel EVER. Thank you so much for sharing all info related to this masterpiece. i learned a lot from watching your channel in the last 4 years, those Schematics videos were awesome and i really enjoyed testing those things and playing around with that info on my own.

[@Nihil0.0]

Awesome. Thank you for sticking around Thiago

[@SnapuSwipe]

Dude, that you're still there and continue to make content for this amazing game is astounding. I guess there is no person on this planet that played this game more often than you and also shows his never ending love for this game. I'm so exited for DD2.

[@duffduffington843]

This is a fascinating glimpse into the mind of a madman........ AND WE LOVE IT!

[@ladonmccabe]

This is amazing. Some of these were known in some capacity, but I don't think all or nearly as many as you found or the why's. Great video man, I love this game and you're literally a legend

[@dugarrYT]

Good work, i missed the Magick Archer one in my Video! 👍

[@Nihil0.0]

Nice. I see you have some Dogma videos. I will check 'em out. If I'm not playing Dogma, I am often watching others

[@dugarrYT]

@@Nihil0.0 awesome, would appreciate some feedback 😉

[@gabrielfan78]

As for Magick Archer, another bonus might be that the damage of the magick bow is not impacted by distance, unlike physical bows.

[@alternator7893]

The magic archer’s basic attack range is affected by the ranger’s ability that increases arrow range.

[@DMCDrake]

Thank you for all your hard work

[@briane6957]

I always return to your channel for this kind of helpful info such as recently when I started playing again due to a pal trying out the game. Had to let him know about how augments affect pawns as well as how your class affects stats/ what stats get raised from a class. In case anyone freaks, it's not like I, at any point, was telling him how to play. Plus he would ask first.

[@layerp]

This is the way. If he asks for any more hints, just tell him that goblins I'll like fire and that wolves hunt in packs.

[@TheDrunkardHu]

Thanks for putting in the work, Nihil!

[@VJ-zm5xi]

Thank you and it is great to have you back!

[@tomidomusic]

Petrification arrows used by Ranger with various set-ups such as spiral arrow with rusted long-bow VS all other bow vocations just simply was more effective, quicker. You've helped my game -play over the past 4 years + very much. I do use feints over ripostes as MK for its duration at little cost in application time. Thanks Nihil.

[@ejun251]

Really cool I had no idea. We're still learning abou this game thanks to your great videos. Can't wait for DD2 while I'm playing DD1.

[@Browsley]

This was awesome! Thank you for being so dedicated😁

[@ugn154]

This is going to be a great one

[@PuppyPants72]

I've noticed the strider climbs faster and the assassins leg strength and warriors resistance to staggering but not the others so thank you for that!

[@catchkach]

Thanks for this channel please keep up the good work till DD2 we will be here supporting

[@IottiPH]

Thanks for the info! Wish these were more noticeable as it is for Strider's, but nice to know some stuff is there.

[@shovelfighter7901]

i love ur chanel. thx 4 all the info over the years! hope u continue with DD2!

[@aaron-tl8di]

Man your effort and dedication is amazing it makes me so happy to see this in a community for a game that I love. #JustSubbed. Epic man. Just frickin epic......

[@matthewturpin6429]

Wonderful work and interesting info as always. Thanks for all you've given to the community

[@yourguykhonshu3972]

Love the dedication to DD content. As a bonus, I believe Warrior deals more environmental damage too. There aren't many destructible objects in the game outside of crates, which anyone can break, so the easiest place to see it is in ore veins. No matter how much damage my bows/sword/maces do, to get metals from ore veins I need to use a pickaxe. As a warrior, a single swing on the weapon causes all the metals to fly off and be picked up. IIRC they also have an easier time breaking the pillars in Daimon's room but I need to double check that since it may just be my memory. I believe spells can do the same thing, but warriors are the only ones I've seen able to do without an ability just an attack. It's incredibly minor but I find it neat.

[@295Phoenix]

I always felt getting a perfect block with Mystic Knight felt easier than with Fighter and thought it was in my imagination or MK's animation made it easier! Glad to know that it's because MK's shield does have longer i frames! Really miss whisper, btw, pity he dropped off the internets.

[@SquirrelGamingProductions]

@Nihil: I did some testing on Assassin & Leg-Strength on stream. You're right Assassins get a layer of it, but adding the Augment actually gives them 2 layers of it. So they can go from Average -> Very Light, for example

[@Nihil0.0]

Hmmmmm. That's cool. I couldn't quite remember if I tested that or not. I was gonna check again. That's pretty cool though, that it stacks

[@michaelharrington5860]

This is that good shit. Thanks for the research. Some I knew, most I didn't. You're the man. 🤝

[@etiennemilot4882]

Ty for your hard work

[@lautaroespora4920]

Man that is a lot of dedication!

[@jakubviskup977]

I really love the dedication u have. And love it content.

[@samza9622]

Subscribed! playing dragons dogma ps4 version currently looks like you might have helpful vids.

[@arazeth5562]

With the perfect block for Mystic Knight, you can actually see the block frame increase in the files. All of the Riposte skills get +5 frames on the first level and +10 on the second and third level. However one exception is the Thunder Riposte, which gets +10 on the first and +5 on the second and third level, most likely a bug. Also the other shield skills (Demonspite, Holy Fortress and Holy Grace) either get no block frame increase (Holy Fortress) or get only +5 on the second level (Demonspite, Holy Grace).

[@Darskul]

Hey man, thanks for teaching us so much about the game.

[@IUsedToMakeMusics]

They need to consult YOU in making the sequel

[@TimboUnderskroll]

top tier video...my goodness thank you for everything u do

[@newvegas3150]

Warrior also get stagger resistence without attacking. On one of my first times playing the game, I changed from strider to warrior and didn't got staggered from bandit arrows. It was remarkable

[@Nihil0.0]

I noticed those results when I first tested many years ago, Warrior resisted always. Then tested again recently and it wasn't always this time. I didn't retest Bandir arrows specifically but I tested Bandit sword swings

[@panhouska]

We love you man

[@mechazawa777]

Im excited for any of your vids. im excited when DD2 drops. im excited FOR YOU for DD2. Im excited for your DD2 vids. Im excited to beat DD2 9 times. Im excited to see your DD2 hidden tips and tricks vids. All your class runthroughs. All your augments. Augment testing. Retesting. Taking a break. Forgetting the game. And starting back over. And your NEW run-through vids. And your challenges runs. Then forgetting about it for 4 years. And starting over. hype train.

[@Nihil0.0]

Thanks for sticking around so long. I'm excited as well

[@declanandrewbell]

crown this man Duke!

[@TimboUnderskroll]

i recently restarted the game named my pawn nil and because of the fashion dogma videos hes likeness is spot on

[@Nihil0.0]

Is he a Strider?

[@Sinayldz]

Identity theft is not a joke Jim.

[@wezz5777]

You gotta be the #1 DD player lol. Thanks for the awesome content

[@williamfoster7234]

Thanks bro I appreciate the work

[@shinisaloh]

Thks for this research man.

[@yungjose3369]

props for the effort

[@joe6pak14]

The damage calculations are fairly complex in the game and it is really hard to discern whether these are working as intended or just unpatched glitches. Something like jumping while doing HFB at 90 degree angle to your target will do significantly more damage than standing and doing the same attack face to face with the target. They gave Ranger an augment(Trajectory) which is almost useless since it doesn't do anything to the damage drop off with distance. That same augment completely breaks the game when Magick Archer uses it since there is no damage drop off and in the case of ricochet bolts there might(?) be damage increase on the length or the number of ricochets. That last part is more rumor than fact, but after a few thousand hours of playing MA, I cannot say that it isn't true.

[@Venti_Loverer2001]

I wonder if the mage's innate skill is just being able to heal... not as hidden as the rest but definitely unique to them.

[@ME_YA4P]

Fantastic work.

[@joejack1452]

I hope we one day find out the answers were 100% certain on it

[@KittysDawn]

Part of this is just wondering what the developers considered an innate bonus. If they even thought of it like that. Really depends on their design process.

[@Seichensi]

If just the game (devs) would be more transparent with the stuff in... While on paper all this sounds really cool - swapping weapon types, gear and now even passive skills (to don't use the ones which are "innate")... always felt like a tedious work to do as for me. 1:35 "...30 years later and I still making test & researches about this game".

[@majormoron605]

Do you think DD2 should be less obtuse regarding its mechanics?

[@destruction126]

No but it 1000% needs to be more transparent. It's annoying not knowing so many key details about vocations, augments and pawn inclinations that significantly change your game.

[@AmySorrellMusic]

I noticed after awhile, at very high level my sorcerer arisen can produce two miasmas at once and dribble a dragon. Down on the ground getting hurt, take off and hit the one in the air and fall back in. Not sure if that is one of these, but it is funny.

[@Emanemoston]

Thanks for the video.

[@Mr.Huggles]

If you want, I can give you the code data for assassin's speed increase. it's not like leg-strength. they actually move faster at each encumbrance tier. leg strength works by selecting the tier/profile for encumbrance (either the full code profile or just the movement speed code per tier/profile). the increased speed isn't a flat value (like always +1.5), but unique per tier of encumbrance (with heavier tiers having a smaller difference compared to non-assassin encumbrance speed).

[@Nihil0.0]

Yeah, I figured it wasn't quite just auto leg strength, I figured it was something else because I did notice fluctuations per weight tier. I checked out your channel, you got some dogma testings vids. That's awesome. I enjoy testing stuff out in the game.

[@primuladanderfluff7881]

Great, as always!

[@Nihil0.0]

Thanks Primula. Has life improved for you since a month ago?

[@primuladanderfluff7881]

@@Nihil0.0 mmm lol sadly no, still unemployed, still surviving, but I’m happy. Still loving all your vids and still playing DD, thanks again for your love to this game.

[@XredactedX]

This game deserves a remake

[@ongoingprocessfailed]

12:25 ... pardon?

[@Sam_Dragonborn1]

For the Mage mystery, could it potentially be a faster casting time/i-frames for core stuff like Magick Agent?

[@Sam_Dragonborn1]

Not actually sure but was wondering if it could be

[@Nihil0.0]

Tested casting time on all, no change. Didn't test anything with magic agent specifically, just the regular bolts and focused bolts.

[@newvegas3150]

One more thing. As a MK main, I'm 95% sure that the window to perfect block increases with the ability rank. I have a much easier time perfect blocking with fire ripost then with fire counter. Don't know if the Inferno Feint increases further tho.

the size of the daggers😀

[@kiunziru]

Just an idea in terms of the mage, but have you tested the performance of 'utility' spells (____ afffinity, blearing & silentium) when compared to other vocations?

[@Nihil0.0]

Yep, I did. No change. Tested how long to silence, how long boone lasts. So many things

[@histhoryk2648]

What happened to Whisper?

[@Nihil0.0]

Not sure. Just vanished. Was working on a stealth game I think.

[@histhoryk2648]

@@Nihil0.0 That explains a lot :P

[@JasonJanzen-w5n]

Mages magic agent I always thought was stronger I have to check sometime

[@Ninakoru]

So with Assasin you may not need leg strength? I have to test that, always craving for augment slots ^^ Thanks for taking the time for this.

[@nialldoran7716]

does prescience still effect magic shields with an elemental skill applied then? it certainly feels like it does x

[@Nihil0.0]

I would say so. I've noticed it does

[@nialldoran7716]

@@Nihil0.0 thanks for the reply brother, and I must say I've come to love the MK spec after watching your vids, even though you recommend not using prescience I still seem to struggle without it x

[@Nihil0.0]

@@nialldoran7716 You just need to know enemy attack patterns. Watch my Enemy playlist, I show how to predict attacks and how to encourage certain attacks kzbin.info/aero/PLukV9BBsll8WDr2u8h2FqMKMlqMvn6NK7

[@michasokoowski6651]

I think that in some cases hidden bonuses might be impossible to spot, like imagine if mage had a bonus making restorative magic work for longer... you can't test it because mage is the only class that can cast restorative magic.

[@Nihil0.0]

You can test it with the hooks mod. I tested anodyne duration and replenish amount, and I tested Halidom too. With hooks you can make all vocations use all and any weapon and skills. There's still much more that I haven't thought to test though. Hoping these comments will provide more

[@amakuru27]

you are amazing nil i love you

[@Sackrelije]

So if putting Leg Strength on Assassin does nothing, does that also mean using Prescience on Mystic Knight also does nothing? or would it at the very least affect Magic Shields without a Riposte buff/enchant?

[@Nihil0.0]

Prescience does work with magic shields. Probably because it's weapon getting the hidden bonus vs Assassin getting the bonus. I guess

[@Sackrelije]

@@Nihil0.0 Ah ok, I remember using Prescience on Mystic Knight early on as a learning crutch, only to hear in your vid it has it inherently to an extent so I thought I had been using up an augment slot that didn't stack or do anything

[@EmilePesky-n1v]

I made a really tall, really heavy strider. Have I foooked up?

[@CidLufaine]

God I love this game, I still struggle with having fun as a sorc though. The magic system in the game is always cool and unique, but I still struggle to enjoy sorc/mage. The slow charging spells gameplay style just is hard for me to enjoy. Ive thought about farming some skill rings to get a super powered early game thunder god sorc though, I love the thunder spells.

[@Nihil0.0]

I also didn't like Sorcerer. What got me was Spellsync. That's fun. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWmqY6SehLCEo80

[@alexismartinez5410]

Capcom should give you some sort nod ... Like making an op pawn with your name

[@Grimmacemack]

That’s wild

[@Molderon]

I might be wrong but I always thought magic archer had a faster dodge roll than the others

[@Nihil0.0]

I did not test speed but I tested distance. I may have tested speed a long time ago. In Dogma Online there augments for dodge roll. I actually haven't considered Dogma Online in these tests. I should

[@mad4like808]

Hey man do you planning do another challenge run or playthrought?

[@some_hippies]

Something I'm curious about: Did you try using a cheat engine to use illegal weapon/skill combos on other vocations? What I'd like to know but too am lazy to test is to see if some of these passives are traits of weapons/skills and not the vocation. For example, if you use a cheat engine to equip a longsword to a strider, does it get bonus stagger resistance during a charged attack? Is the stagger resistance from warrior, or from arc of deliverance? For all intents and purposes there isn't much of a functional difference since during normal gameplay warrior cant use a longbow, but I'd like to see regardless

[@TheValiantBob]

If mage is a support class, what if it has something to do with pawns?

[@Nihil0.0]

I checked quite a bit with pawns of mage. Same rate to fall from dragon roar, same health replenished from reviving, same damage solo vs pawns, same boon durations, same health replen from anodyne, same defense, same a lot. And that's how I thought too. It should be something to do with support. But these kind of comments are good, maybe we'll think of something more solid to test

[@pennywatts4978]

Do you think the creator planned theses things or just the system developed it over time? Curious. I just play this over and over for the pawns and storyline of dark arisen. And to watch ur videos. Thank you for all the help.

[@ShepdogX5]

What the skill called again? Ingel? Is that the one that gets rid of debuffs?

[@Xeno_Solarus]

That's Halidom. Ingel is the basic fire spell.

[@SuperStrongAlien]

Hi, what's the name of your Arisen's mask or face mask? And where to find/buy it?

[@moomanchu608]

Nice vid! Do you have any recommendations for fast leveling but a little more controlled? Im lv 72 but i want to change vocations at lv 100 so i dont want to do the Death exploit since that will overshoot my exp. I havent gotten into gran soren’s castle yet

[@dragonbeast-rs3no]

how come you said wh1sper vanished, his most recent video was 4 years ago, where did he go?

[@kamikaze00007]

Do augments that boost the climbing stuff not have any effect when equipped on Strider due to the natural hidden bonuses? Same with the other classes hidden vocation innate bonuses. Or do they stack except what you mentioned with Assassin and Leg Strength?

[@Nihil0.0]

Opportunity works on Strider, Leg Strength does work on Assassin (tested it again after vid), Morbidity works on Ranger, Prescience works on Mystic Knight, Warrior Audacity probably works, Arm Strength works on Strider, Gloves of Might work on Strider.

[@SmokinSNYP3R]

If you use the prescience augment on mystic knight, do you still gain the extra frames for perfect blocks?

[@pkkiba]

suuperrr :)

[@dauntlesstark9850]

What did happen to whispers? Was there any reason givin? Or just lost passion?

[@loganross1861]

It’s pretty crazy how empty and unfinished this game is, and it’s crazier how good it is despite being incomplete and unfinished

[@jprec5174]

Game really could have benefited from a robust mod scene

[@Oblivion262]

Are you active on the DD Discord?

[@Nihil0.0]

Nope. I was. Briefly

[@Oblivion262]

@@Nihil0.0 oh okay I gotcha! If you were i thought it might be a better place to ask you some questions I've always had regarding some niche pawn builds 😅

[@Nihil0.0]

@@Oblivion262 you can ask here. Any of the vids. I usually reply

[@Oblivion262]

@@Nihil0.0 I was really interested in building a Strider pawn with daggers only that's a climbing master. I was browsing your videos, hoping to maybe find one about niche pawn builds (fighter-no shield, ranger-bow only, strider-daggers only) etc. I was also wondering what the best skill levelling would be for the highest possible physical damage on a pawn is.

[@Nihil0.0]

@@Oblivion262 highest physical is fighter to 10, warrior to 200 but that's low stamina. Instead you can go ranger to 100, warrior to 200. Dags only Strider- Kisses only. No other skills, maybe Soaring stone. Adhesion aug Opportunism aug Arm strength aug Proficiency aug Clout aug Inclinations - Challenger1, Scather2, Pioneer3 Armor- Gloves of might

[@Desheep]

Is spell sync innate to sorc, or to arch mage staff?

[@samza9622]

Sorc

[@undead6494]

Mage maybe they don't have it, for how "OP" they r. Maybe their way of balancing

[@disseminationmachine]

pres-sea-ant pres-sea-ence 😁

[@xlek.s]

Nihil how the hell do you have 6 million rc

[@Nihil0.0]

That was probably gold, not RC. And with gold, I rarely buy anything just upgrade stuff

[@pennywatts4978]

Did u play this before dark arisen was added? My kids actually played this before me but never finished. So I played and ended the game just to show them, but they never went back. I never stopped playing then the add on dark arisen came out and well the second dd released only in china maybe but no pawns so I guess the game flopped over there. Anyways rambling, never thought of testing but noticed that the pawns react differently to certain vocations in Gransys and to male arisen versus female. They taught me most hidden things in vocations and hidden places in the game. They say teach pawns but I learned more teaching them than they learned from me. Never ran through game without a pawn. I will someday. Lmao awesome videos though. More informative than any others. Ty

[@shrekrecker]

this is the one