Nijisanji Top Talents [Selen & Pomu] Sick Of Horrible Niji Management

[@parrot4chan]

My sanity goes down for every video I upload

[@saibot9765]

Keep strong Parrot! If not for yourself, DO IT FOR YOUR OSHI!!!

[@helloneighbour2408]

thank you green parrot fuck

[@BigSlow]

but with how much January already provided your Sanity will be nonexistent by February

[@Seijik4702]

Once it's gone, it will no longer be an issue.

[@agathamayra5045]

thank you for your sacrifice in keeping us entertained.

[@trewerd]

"There were more Niji graduations than Gura streams in 2024" I spat out my drink.

[@AB-dd4jz]

Gura play the algorythm like a f**cking pro that's absolutely impressive, I studied her channel a little bit and her numbers are very impressive for the work she puts into it, the thing with YT is that the more you stream, the less the algo will advertise you but if you do like Gura or Ayame and stream only once in a blue moon but get the big numbers when you do then you're golden. By the way that's why Fuwamoco growth is impressive because they stream very often so they grow despite the algo, I personnally think the many clippers they have are helping tremendously.

[@passintogracegoldenyearnin6310]

@@AB-dd4jz Surprisingly very good view count on her sponsored stream to promote Sendai, and she's retained enormous amounts of membership despite the long droughts. And it seems a lot of people went back to watch older streams. 2-3 million views per month with no new content?

[@SenseiRaisen]

And making it even funnier as Gura announce she will return to make more streams regularly this year.

[@idobasicthingshi7658]

@@AB-dd4jzBAU BAU

[@ninjablade2]

@@passintogracegoldenyearnin6310 Gura's comedy is super re-watchable, I'm not surprised at all that lacking new content people would go and rewatch old stuff again

[@DarkonFullPower]

13:17 The craziest part of this whole thing is we now have direct conformation from ANYCOLOR that *this was correct.* That was indeed not Selen, by their own admission. How in the world did the "squiggle apostrophe" theory get CONFIRMED?!

[@San-nj8fj]

Never doubt the 4chan detectives, they may be deranged, but they’re the best in their field

[@sionantara370]

Always remember that being schizo and being right is not mutually exclusive

[@retrictumrectus1010]

Did they really admit that? I still believe Selen wrote it since Dokibird also has that apostrophe. But the English seems like Millie wrote it.

[@darkelixer2239]

We're talking about 4chan here. A sea of psychos who have world-class specialists randomly popping up(even if they themselves don't know)

[@Georgeorat]

4chan, they always have a 50℅ chance of a hit and a 100℅ crit, because these mf don't believe in statistics.

[@Akakunchannel]

This video is not old, but It has already aged like fine wine.

[@diputston]

Btw can you or someone else tell me who's light stick is that?

[@fangorn23]

Wine-makers WISH they could have such fine turnover on their product so fast

[@meinesuri5703]

Hello and yes :)

[@asteriskonline3494]

Now that it's old. It aged like Vintage wine, Perfection!

[@Cookie_Magika]

wasn't zion's whole lore was that she saw the end of the world and wanted to prevent it? then the moment she spoke the world ended for niji?

[@oak..]

well, guess it came sooner than expected, and in a different way..

[@LordSleven]

Lmao

[@SonicGTR]

"... But the future refused to change."

[@sirneko1278]

yep

[@NEETKitten]

​@@SonicGTRLavosScream.mp3

[@jerromelovelock4085]

Hololive CEO: is treated as a god by fans VShojo CEO: is treated as a gigachad by fans NijiSanji CEO: would be attacked in public by fans

[@E4439Qv5]

PhaseConnect CEO: would be attacked in public by his own streamers

[@jameyknapp9299]

@@E4439Qv5 LMAO IRL

[@DestroYer-yj1ky]

@@E4439Qv5 Fans would seggs livers in public*

[@VicesMoniker-Rosarian]

​@@E4439Qv5I spat my drink kekw

[@juno9394]

@@E4439Qv5Idol: Penrose! I chose you! Fight!

[@Felipeetc]

You know it's bad when the fans WANT their oshi to graduate 😂

[@mimerfb]

Just to make freedom for their oshi😂😂😂

[@tatsumigakill7347]

They should just join another Company like Hololive. It would be also good for Selen so she can be With her friend Mumei more often

[@avioracrown6967]

Seeing your oshi shackled by the company is horrible

[@wraithofavici]

Time to wait for two years

[@ahoyforsenchou7288]

@@tatsumigakill7347 No, she belongs with the hos on Twitch.

[@adamlakeman7240]

6:40 my boy sure as fuck called it correctly.

[@socklover8153]

Bro was waiting behind the scenes

[@SenseiRaisen]

Unironically. I told the same.

[@FireWyvern870]

He is the prophet

[@kylewood4488-b9r]

4Chan surprisingly has some smarter chatters than I remember.

[@MrUnimportant]

@@kylewood4488-b9r There's always been a few secret geniuses hidden among the chaff on that website. But boy is there a lot of chaff.

[@Niffoni]

Niji livers' graduation announcements are starting to be treated like civilians being pulled out of a burning building, wrapped in those blankets that first responders give you. Like "oh thank god! You're going to be okay now. We've got you."

[@csmrookie9600]

It’s like you’re finally freeing the prisoners from the concentration camp or gulag.

[@balargus319]

I see it more like a wicked king's generals defecting to their former rivals. :)

[@ariswiryanta7038]

Whoever corpos that want to snatch ex-Niji probably like RDR2 scene when Arthur saved Sadie "Don't worry miss, you are safe. We are bad men(corp.), but we ain't them."

[@DemonHunter2271]

@@csmrookie9600As someone who has an interest in that time period of history, I can 100% agree with you there.

[@ninjablade2]

I described it as a hostage situation last year when i was commenting on them canceling one of Selen's tournaments The fans's can't stop supporting the Niji management without also ceasing support of the talents, leaving the fans in a state of "I want to leave... but i can't leave my oshi here alone" which makes it feel like a victory when they finally get themselves out so we can actually just support the person themselves and not the company we want to boycot

[@jurassicattack01]

the 4chan user at 6:45 got it right

[@annihilation951]

He was spot on

[@jake_from_state7143]

Man had some info from the inside, no doubt

[@SuperCatacata]

@@jake_from_state7143 He literally just had to look at what they already did in the past.

[@WeAreOutOfWeed13]

​@@jake_from_state7143Imagine living every breathing day being this clueless

[@Gatherway]

16:12 "I will die for NIJISANJI" Oof.

[@madtech5153]

almost. glad it didn't happen

[@vexile1239]

Thank all that is Holy that her parents found her before the almost became a did, her parents are the goat (did I get it right? I have no idea what it means but the times I encountered it, it generally has good connotations)

[@wolftamer5463]

​@@vexile1239Goat= greatest of all time, so you are using it correctly.

[@ShotRage]

"Selen died on her way back to her home planet" fking, ALMOST HOLY SHIT

[@triplegks]

My reaction to Pomu graduation: "Don't be sad because it's over, smile because she got out from that shithole company called Kurosanji"

[@akira8393]

I'm literally shitting on it

[@MrRAGE-md5rj]

Damn straight. Sad for all the work she put in, but happy to see that she'll be better off.

[@roxrequiem2935]

Pomu's graduation was literally the shittiest feeling I had because I was actually happy someone got out of there, when I should be sad we can't have Pomu leaf anymore.

[@vanguardRailgun924]

For real Her’s and Nina’s were the first Vtuber Graduations I was happy about, thank god they don’t have to deal with that company anymore.

[@tl1326]

Kuro Ashi no Sanji? I love him but i honestly prefer zoro because zoro respects woman.

[@flyingfish7787]

12:51 this tweet was proved this wasn’t even Selen herself. This was written by the staffs.

[@thelurker8169]

management did their best to communicate with not only Selen Tatsuki herself, but also her emergency contact. However, despite frequent communication with Selen Tatsuki's emergency contact...The decision was made to temporarily remove her access to accounts on various social media platforms and video distribution services under the name "Selen Tatsuki". I can't believe they were right. It really wasn't Selen who wrote that tweet

[@ruitakanashixD]

They are a great detective

[@sirneko1278]

its 4chan, of couse they know

[@vexile1239]

​@@sirneko1278but didn't 4chan bash on Sayu/Zaion?

[@First-to-last]

​@@vexile1239 i think its because she was new and didn't have that big of a fanbase when she got terminated, compared to basically the beating heart of EN who is one of their biggest streamers

[@vexile1239]

@@First-to-last true

[@SenseiRaisen]

4:13 gues what ... 16:18 and they were right again 27:19 ... today 13/2/2024 ... eating a torpedo (a toast long sandwich) and watch Niji bursting in flames. 33:21 this one was also true a lot.

[@nikolaimaunu4524]

rrats are always right

[@danielkells6021]

It's genuinly amazing how badly Niji's management has fucked up in the past month, like I know there's been issues but these ones are nuclear in comparison

[@Gamorou]

Nah, Zaion's public execution was even worse, specially with all the gasligthing her previous "friends" throwed her on the fire when she couldn't defend herself with false claims It didn't have as much impact before because NijiEN still had some credibility, but if you look at it again, if you look at how everyone treated her... I really recommend looking at it again, because now we know how Niji is, and memories are clouded with the judgement we had at the time

[@The_Foolish_Fool]

@@Gamorou yeah, lost a LOT of respect for Niji because Zaion was under NDA and they could freely talk shit about her. Felt wrong.

[@Kelpie-sb5bi]

Nijisanji’s reputation is pretty much going through a nuclear winter and still they just can’t stop themselves from firing off more warheads.

[@Kelpie-sb5bi]

Nijisanji as a company never deserved any respect

[@ma.2089]

@@Gamorou where’s your proof that her coworkers threw her onto the fire with false claims? Cuz if they genuinely weren’t happy with how she treated them, and they felt betrayed by her, that’s not really their fault. Also, Niji has been sucking for a long while. The days of Niji’s heyday have passed, but that doesn’t retrospectively mean that everything they’ve ever done is a lie.

[@peasantkyr]

The way some of these have aged HOOOOOOOOOOOO BOY AND THE SHEER AMOUNT OF THEM

[@Secunder]

Saddest thing is - Selen is still suspended so she cant even say last proper goodbye to Pomu. upd: aaaand she's gone. Pls support Dokibird, its her pl

[@sitemoth]

Don't worry, they can collab all they want in VShojo

[@Secunder]

@@sitemoth Yep, probably

[@infamouse9263]

@@sitemothhopefully they both go their

[@A_Bag_of_Potatoes]

If she isn't allowed to say goodbye publicly, I'm going to be genuinely pissed.

[@Secunder]

​@@A_Bag_of_Potatoes She wasnt even in a powerpoint presentation. It's over

[@bytwentyeight]

Remember when we thought this stuff was the worst part? Good times

[@NEEDbacon]

I mean, it still kinda was as we almost unknowingly had Selen (now Doki) unalive herself over how shit Kurosanji was. And Kursoanji did not help themselves in the slightest. Now we all get to point and laugh at the yacht sinking, it's at least fun.

[@Rogue-Mike]

You can't help but *notice* how none of the livers don't say any variation of "Niji Family" anymore, not even for a silly bit.

[@FilYRU999]

It really felt that after Nina or Mysta leaving that Niji stopped having a community feel. That all is just crumbling slowly. Who cares about the gens after Iluna? Xsoleil was a good idea. Have a rival team to Iluna. But they lost Zaion directly so any idea to make both collab as rivals in events just fell apart. Crysis is when it gets bad. Nearly no promotion, overshadowed by Nina leaving. Sure I think Wilson is a very cool guy but Crysis is the moment where I feel like old Niji and new Niji doesn’t even overlap anymore. And TTT? I barely know them. It’s like they are trying to create a new lineup that will eventually bring new fans that don’t know of the Niji “family”

[@antimeotaku_olver14]

​@@FilYRU999 i feel this so much... Niji en doesnt feel like how it used to before.. Especially with more people who were there for a long time started.. Disappearing

[@yasaraoze]

@@FilYRU999 bro i forgot TTT even existed fr 😭

[@passintogracegoldenyearnin6310]

@@FilYRU999 It's weird that over the last few years, Holo has grown into a deeper family vibe and Niji is losing that feeling. There's strong support for Regis and Kobo being friends after their recent offline meetup in Japan, and members like Ollie and Noel said they'd want to support the others even if they slipped to the bottom. As far as cooperation or tension between branches, they do a lot of inter-branch collabs. And they even gave Risu a position next to Sora in the 2023 Shuffle Medley.

[@FilYRU999]

@@passintogracegoldenyearnin6310 Niji axed so much branches. India, Indonesia, China and Taiwan and Korea. And it’s harder to collab JP and EN compared to EN and ID or IN. It sadly seems like nijiEN is getting more insular. There are still amazing collaborations like Kyo and Enna. But with the loss of 5 streamers just in the EN branch in a year, it hurts the cohesion or collabs. You can feel voids starting to appear.

[@arustaa7179]

Pomu might be graduated but that crying pomu meme and anon's comment will forever rent free in my brain.

[@cryw1092]

If she comes back, the only thing I'll miss will be the Pomu identity. She had a really good design.

[@mdb45424]

​@cryw1092 it's when, the real question on where they are going. Miku could go vhi/phas, pomu is good enough for holo and down. Selen is the same of course might be a long time before next holo gen

[@cryw1092]

@@mdb45424 I thought I heard that Pomu was headed back to college. Is there a reason to believe that's not the case?

[@mdb45424]

@@cryw1092 yes, vhishojo next theme/ gen will be school based. So that got alot of people suspecting miku and pomu may be using double speak to not get into trouble

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@mdb45424 Miku?

[@TheBaxes]

Now that they terminated Selen I can't wait for the sequel to this video

[@kylewood4488-b9r]

Right? I am anticipating it greatly. Because everything is falling apart for Niji fast.

[@csmrookie9600]

I can’t wait for background music being something like ode to joy as the screen flashes with the multiple digital cries of not rage, sadness, or insanity. . . But wails of utter cheer, joy, and satisfaction upon the release of a caged bird. One that shall rise to be their own person, not shackled by the weighted chains of a black company. One who became. . . *THE FREE BIRD.*

[@iDeLaYeD_o]

When people think of the bad things Hololive and VShojo have done: "Remember that thing they did a year or two ago?" People thinking of bad things for Niji: "Hey remember how Niji fucked up last week? Oh there was something yesterday?"

[@hendrysuawa]

Please dont put holo and vshitjo on same level, vshitjo og member is literally bunch of friend backstabber 😂

[@iDeLaYeD_o]

@@hendrysuawa Thank you for proving my point. People leaving VShojo with drama was 8 months ago and yes I have issues with a couple talents but the company isn't the issue unlike Niji. Also, you come off as a Holo simp. I agree that overall Hololive is better overall but it's not like VShojo isn't a match in the EN market and to some extent the JP market.

[@elektra8535]

The Last vshojo drama i can remember is the nux taku situation and Silvervale acting kinda bitchy when she Left vshojo

[@Ashhley_the_shawty]

​@@elektra8535all the Hogwart Legacy hogwash was pretty telling of the Vshitjo community bending the knee to schizo bullying

[@kubomagico8853]

​@@iDeLaYeD_o Hello. I am a Holo simp and I completly agree with you. Vshojo's dramas are mostly about the members and the company itself is leagues better than the shitshow of a company that Nijisanji is.

[@TENthe10th]

16:12 Oh wow, that didn't age well. Or rather it aged WAAAAAAAY too well.

[@TopDegenerate]

Niji's greatest skill is burning away any good will that people had built up for them, at speeds only rivaled by their CEO's speed at which he spends his 98% of the cut on boats

[@csmrookie9600]

I feel like they’re trying to break in all their vtubers and the. Sending the used goods to other agencies to use.

[@neilisawesome2333]

Those boats are really the passion of all CEO's wasn't it?

[@normaleverydayman7004]

​@@csmrookie9600they helping other vtuber company by training new people and searching for nice talent after ship em away What a good company

[@USSMariner]

"and there's the reroll" Riku upon seeing talent graduate.

[@miletfan4363]

nijisanji doing fine, in JP side anyway

[@SergioLeonardoCornejo]

I don't understand how they can have such an incompetent management team. They make the fans of their talents hope they graduate to release them from pain.

[@akira8393]

I mean if the statement about 1 managers for too many talents are true then it is understandable why it is the case. i couldn't deal with one retard but imagine having to manage 10. yikes

[@ANGST.ARGENTINA]

Literally LITERALLY any random Viewer that actually follows their content closely could be a better management than the "Professionals" could ever be 😂

[@DinnerForkTongue]

​@@ANGST.ARGENTINA I'd manage for Pomu or Selen. *_Pro bono._* Who cares if I'm completely green to management, I'll frickin' learn.

[@amiablereaper]

Some companies don't think about anything but the next quarterly report One day their whole company is gonna "graduate"

[@mdb45424]

It's having two management teams with jp having authority over the en one. En can say yes and are easy to talk to but en yes means nothing if jp says no. Hard to get jp to wiegh on things sooooo

[@agathamayra5045]

millie trying to debunk the black company allegations but failing miserably because we all know she knows it IS a black company is pure comedy

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Her shilling skills need improvement.

[@momo8563]

no bc like she fights so hard for it i almost feel bad for her like

[@EndellionQT]

Makes me think of The Naked Gun when Leslie Nielson was telling the crowd there was nothing to see here when he was standing in front of a fireworks explosion.

[@Eric-vs2he]

That boot is deep in her throat she could probably floss her ass with the laces

[@KurayamiEris]

Her (Millie's) points weren't even like...good.

[@degenelatepeppeloni9854]

Mint loved Nijisanji and look what they did to her...

[@KoyaHarmony17]

THEY DID HER DIRTY. but I heard she's doing well in her alt account. Her new alt account name you might ask? It's Dearsqn.

[@kubomagico8853]

Not so fun fact: With Pomu's graduation the total number of Nijisanji graduated/terminated members is 74 That number hapens to be the total number of female members in Hololive (including Mel, Sana, Rushia, Coco, Aloe and all members of Hololive China but not including Chris) Edit: now (1 February) 75 including Chris (because Kyo) Edit 2: yeah... 76... then add A-chan because Selen Edit 3: It was brought to my attention that Yuki Chihiro and Azuchi Momo from NijiJP have graduated as well as Riksa Dhirendra from former NijiID has had his termination announced making it 79 Fuck now there is no more Hololive girls to add beside Nodoka Let's just prepare for the future and say there is curently 86 active Hololive and Holostars members beside A-chan and Nodoka Edit after 9 months: Hololive curently has 87 talents and 20 graduated/terminated (includes Chris and Ame) Nijisanji curently has 248 livers (including the ones on hiatus for over 1 year) and 135 graduated/terminated Btw in the new numbers I counted the Virtual Real Project (bilibili and Anycolor joint venture)

[@death2641]

Yeah about Rushia .......

[@kyu6594]

correction, 76, Kyo announcement 😭😞

[@kubomagico8853]

@@kyu6594 the edit I made is about Kyo

[@kyu6594]

@@kubomagico8853 Chris?? i didnt know lol oops

[@kubomagico8853]

@@kyu6594 Hitomi Chris was announced as a member of Hololive gen 1 together with Shirakami Fubuki, Natsuiru Matsuri, Aki Rosenthal and Akai Haato right after Yozora Mel's debut It's unknown why exactaly she was terminated even before debut but there are speculations in the internet about it (Depressed Nousagi made a video about this)

[@DarkusNightmare]

13:24 how did they notice/predict this? Amazing deduction The fact that they exposed the management that Selen was NOT the one who typed this is WILD

[@iazy47]

Well it's 4chan what you expect. They even can searching down people only from photo

[@rubiepie]

You know how big niji is there's going to atleast one of the talent or manager going there leaking shit up. Or some 4channers doing cracker shit (cracker means black hat hackers)

[@mdb45424]

Fans that go their all her tweet pick up her texting patterns.

[@Andy_ARBS]

Only a certain type of fan goes to 4chan. Also, you can't just post that kind of theory on a public social media. That could only have come from the anonymous board or a private discord group.

[@Captain1nsaneo]

"please re-upload" That's a very polite way of screaming as loud as you can.

[@alikuoli]

13:09 The fact that she actually was for that exact reason and BECAUSE of niji. I'm glad that she got freed from that hellhole of a company!

[@dr.shakib9961]

*Selen working hard for her loving dragoons and bringing more knowledge about Nijisanji to the world* Niji management: So you've chosen death?

[@FateShape]

"Graduation is the main content." LMAOOO BLESS YOU 2chaner! I haven't had a laugh this good all year.

[@OneAngrehCat]

">instead of ahead of" That anon had some serious foresight.

[@proto245]

Bullshit has a pattern and some schizos can see it ahead of many.

[@flyingfish7787]

17:38 Hits harder after Dokibird revealed the truth.😢 Memes are not funny when it's real.

[@bolrath6984]

13:20 bro was right

[@LordCodeEye]

6:45 this person knew and even called it so perfectly! I need their @ to follow

[@SomeRandomGarchomp]

Rawr (That's Ame)

[@gurugurumawaru7869]

Eh, not a hard guess.

[@chaudspieler]

Ummm...from what was shown she...just got terminated. And when I quote tweeted it the Niji management flagged my Twitter account and got me locked for being worried about Selen. Yeah they went THAT FAR!!

[@hotkokoa]

9:22 Niji management read this and speedrun the challenge

[@SimplySwayze]

Honestly, the people pushing back against any criticism of Anycolor because “it’s not helping the livers!” are the ones driving me up the wall the most right now; calling out abusive management is literally all we _can_ do to help. When someone is in a toxic relationship, you don’t offer them paper smiles and empty platitudes. You don’t tell them “you’re gonna be okay, they can change, you just gotta stay resilient!” You tell them to *_get out for their own good._*

[@macklinwright3966]

EXACTLY

[@DemonHunter2271]

Agreed, don’t be silent. SPEAK UP!!!

[@limerens]

Nijisanji drones are absolute psychopaths.

[@neilisawesome2333]

Tfw you leave the abusive relationship of your ex and live as a free man while you ignore every single toxic ex threats

[@Hirome_Satou]

They likely have to say that because the company is telling them to. It's not like they can come out and say "thanks for sticking up for us against management." Because that would certainly be in breach of some non-disparagement clause or something in their contracts. At least, they may think they can't say that, which is all the more evidence of the company being in violation of employment laws and ethics by creating an atmosphere where employees don't feel safe talking about their concerns or unethical treatment.

[@Sillimant_]

the segment with maid mint laughing is the happiest I think I've ever heard her. jesus fucking christ, what did niji do to her

[@bongochongopongo]

I mean, as it turns out the apostrophe being different was indeed a sign that she did not write the tweets and she indeed had a suicide attempt. Wild shit

[@ectothermic]

Here's the thing I don't get, man. I see Niji bros going "stop calling it a black company, listen to the talent, etc." when they're coping. What ELSE DO YOU NEED MAN!? Look at JUST DECEMBER IN NIJISANJI THAT'S $15k OF SELEN'S OWN MONEY. What the "talent are saying" vs the reality doesn't add up. One of them has to be fake and canned, and words are a lot easier to fake and can! I'm not even parasocial, I just like the parrot man yelling, right? That's plain inhumane, dude. Wtf.

[@NeoCreo1]

They are technically accurate in that the fuckups aren’t a result of a black company’s activities (constantly putting pressure to work more and longer for little reward) but are due to bad management. A company doesn’t have to be black to be mismanaged

[@ectothermic]

@@NeoCreo1 I'd like you to rewatch the part where Millie describes her definition of a black company.

[@Kiriemy]

I cackled at millie breaking down the definition of the black company

[@akira8393]

i never cringed so hard while thinking, she has to be doing this as a joke right

[@OzixiThrill]

@@akira8393 That, or she's trying to cover her ass from being the next one the corpo whip strikes.

[@Kelpie-sb5bi]

The jokes just write themselves.

[@kwizzeh]

I don't even know the definition of it anymore because it's become a buzzword

[@HudaefCares]

​@@kwizzehBlack company is one that pressures you to work in ungodly amount of hours for as little pay as possible. Stuff like "working 18hrs a day" or "getting spoiled oranges as your bonus"... Examples taken from Lui and Senchou stories respectively btw.

[@Shauny7488]

Dont forget, Luna left Niji because she said she felt lonely. They have a fucking gajillion livers and she still felt lonely, theres absolutely no comraderie between the talent, thats down to management.

[@wraithofavici]

The first ex-niji and the last until today.

[@passintogracegoldenyearnin6310]

It's really amazing to hear Aqua talk about how much she's changed as a person since joining. From a loner who just wanted to run her own channel, to a person who wants to be involved in events with the other members. Out of all the things Coco has been credited with, her efforts to increase social networking inside the brand cannot be understated. Okayu and a couple others have mentioned private disputes happening in the past, and gave a lot of credit to management for helping them get through it behind the scenes. Cover is not some magical fairyland where everyone are always friends, but from the outside it looks like they generally feel as if they belong there and are happy enough.

[@mujik4276]

It was worse, iirc she was constantly bullied by the panda for her keyfabe and her graduation stream was just her alone and crying while eating cup noodles because no one (not even her own genmates) bothered to go into the stream

[@passintogracegoldenyearnin6310]

@@mujik4276 And now she composes her symphony of revenge on a full-custom Electone.

[@Woodrakes]

​@@passintogracegoldenyearnin6310 Luna is like using her Yamaha sponsor money now to dry her past tears and fuel up her Harley Davidson motorbike going to the bank

[@GalaxyStar99]

i can already hear the parrot screaming after what just happened

[@SenseiRaisen]

Parrot: STOP BULLING ME WITH NEW CONTENT!! I CAN JUST WORK AT ONCE! Kurosanji: NO! we will keep screwing things up.

[@Yenrei]

Kinda crazy how Pippa, who typically has a bead on the absolute state of the vruber sphere, didn't even have a whiff of this. Pomu speaking in riddles all the time must have been tiring, but damned if she wasn't good at it. I'm gonna miss that smile.

[@jackjones5842]

Looking back at Selen’s song, it was almost definitely partially about saying goodbye to Pomu.

[@deejus_e]

2:06 grinch parrot kinda went hard actually

[@passintogracegoldenyearnin6310]

Gogol Bordello energy right there

[@Thisisnotreal642]

New Nijisanji lore pack just dropped lmao.

[@thelazywanderer_jt]

BRO ACTUALLY 13:14, ACTUALLY REAL

[@kylewood4488-b9r]

4Chan has better detectives than the American government.

[@carbful]

Don't be sad that she's gone, be happy that she escaped

[@wraithofavici]

and dragoons that were zealots mourn for that loss.

[@MrMultiB]

They really went and pulled another Zaion again. Good job, Kurosanji

[@kylewood4488-b9r]

Its worse this time. This time sponsors are leaving after learning of the harrassment, suicide attempt and sudden termination. This will leave a lasting impact on their company especially with the English speaking audience.

[@KoyaHarmony17]

@@kylewood4488-b9r It's not just the sponsors. It also includes special expo events like OffKai. They turned down the event for Ethyria due to the drama that was happening. Also, WHAT'S EVEN WORSE IS THAT, THEY STARTED PETRA'S 3D DEBUT STREAM, THE SAME DAY AS HOLOFES, THINKIN' THAT THEY'RE GONNA BEAT HOLOLIVE, BUT NOPE! IT FREAKIN' FAILED. WHAT IN THE HELL WERE THEY THINKIN'?! IT SHOULDN'T BE LIVE ON THE SAME DAY DURING HOLOFES! SINK THE YATCH, DOWN TO THE ABYSS!

[@LivingArmor196]

The squiggly apostrophe rrat was actually real...

[@jeddvillaspin3379]

Millie is so Filipino by accepting company abuse just to avoid losing the job she loves.

[@NGMK]

Wouldn't be surprised if she was blowing her manager just to keep her job

[@metempsychosis4062]

Yep. A lot of our countrymen have no choice. :P

[@p.hr.]

Pretty normal to us.

[@ThisIsNotADrell]

Even our neighboring countries are ruled by corporate overlords. We've been trained to take abuse like this lol (pls don't k- me I did the thing alri-

[@Thatonerandohololivefan]

Yeah, and who knows? maybe her channel and being a v-tuber are all she has right now, so doing something like leaving the company isn't an option she can choose just yet, I'm a part-time tutor for a kid in my neighborhood, and that kid is SO FUCKING STUPID, I could explain something very simple to him and he would just forget it. However, I still teach him because his parents are paying me good money, so I could see that in Millie because there's no real way she could tolerate how Nijisanji is now.

[@maxsone.w.3219]

30:02 I can't fucking believe it, she was Pomu all along, the first vtuber I ever watched.

[@moose7145]

Yup! She and Pikamee were pretty good friends a long while ago now, she used to comment a lot on Pika's streams. I missed seeing her in karaoke chat...

[@saltycat243]

6:41 fuck. That guy's prediction was on point. It happened just like Zaion.

[@RealKeiPrime]

Man, as a Swagapino, I really HATE it when other swagapinos use the "Be grateful that you're even ___" card. I root for Millie as a fellow swagapino but man, that mindset really is a stupid one.

[@zinedinezethro9157]

Now let's compare how Cover deal with big incidents like Mel's termination recently. That shit was sudden, it was shocking, but dang that was some good damage control and the sheer support was truly quite amazing. Mel's termination was very sudden but she was still able to leave a final message and she even reaffirmed her side in her PL acc. It's even crazy to see that Yagoo literally give condolences like dawg i don't think Riku ever did anything like that lol. The result is that something that could easily get a company down to the pits of hell, become something tragic, sad, and shocking but no more than a big burst of wind for Cover. Big Cover L still for losing Mel, but compared to pther Industry leaders, this is nothing lol.

[@AnimaRandom]

Cover learns a lot from their mistake unlike the black company

[@tl1326]

i honestly thought they would get more backlash because fans dont care about the contracts, only the humans behind them, not understanding that the house is made of termite infested cards. i hones feel happy that cover is good, i can finally call cover the #1 company i would support. (waiting for this to unlikely age like milk after 5 year, or most likely age like wine, knock on wood)

[@broddestrand]

I don't know what the PL means, mind explaining?

[@TheAndrain]

Everyone confirmed it was a terrible situation no one wanted to happen and it just... did. Like a Master freaking class of damage control and everyone's reputation was not negatively impacted. I-freaking-deal and continues the reputation that Cover is at least a decent place to work! Hell, and I'm surprised the spurgs never mentioned it, but Niji couldn't even donate money to the earthquake victims like Cover did! A little PR investment in that case was what AnyColor desperately needed, but they can't even pull off that shit!

[@IsTheOrderASapling]

​@@broddestrandpast life maybe? Her other internet identity before hololive if you want to be more specific

[@Abysswea]

It still baffles me that Selen gave the ok to re-upload her cover, she had to be REALLY mad from the situation. Me at work just laughing to the video and coworkers giving me the weird look lmao!

[@mdb45424]

She revived her old account and started to do commissions for money, so the theories basically been confirmed. Dokiburd

[@phoenixsemorata9476]

Shoot if I had something made with the love and hard work of an entire community along with 15K funneled into it just tossed aside like trash because of awful shitty management I'd be absolutely infuriated and just done too. I'm furious for her, I worry too what with everything going on. For better or worse she did have a hospital visit so it's not a Nijisanji coverup attempt. In regards to one of her recent tweets I'm wondering who it would've been to have told her she's no one special, what a cruel thing to say to someone who's already experiencing a really low point of their life.

[@infamouse9263]

@@phoenixsemorata9476I think when she said that she was more talking past tense she has said how before niji one of her friends who she played apex with called her boosted b!tch and she’s remembered it ever since or who knows maybe it was management

[@squallphin]

I would be mad too that mv costed 15k!

[@passintogracegoldenyearnin6310]

@@phoenixsemorata9476 I really hope she is okay long-term, some people took the song choice and hospital visit as Selen looking for a permanent exit 💀💀

[@CSDragon]

Matata's "no speculating" vid happened before Pomu's graduation was announced. likely it's Mika not pomu

[@Limegreenedragon]

Keep in mind that Mika graduated before Pomu

[@CSDragon]

@@Limegreenedragon yup, exactly.

[@wraithofavici]

And later half month, expect Forest Fairy's voice to be heard.

[@TempestaDominus]

@@wraithofavici Still silent I think

[@johnteo313]

One of the biggest tell tale signs that Selen got screwed over by the company is that most people would have gotten the perms to do the Video before investing 15k into it. Most probably what happened was 1. Selen getting the perms from all needed party including Niji 2. Invested 15k into making the video 3.Niji management took away the perms after video was made. Cause im pretty sure she needed to at least get all the approval she needed from the producer/copyright owner before she even released the song. Which obviously means Nijisanji vetoed it last minute after everything was invested. Nijisanji also most probably did not want to recompensate her for her loss of 15k due to them agreeing initially and vetoing later which made her mad enough to post the video with the follow up twitter/X post.

[@Meonium]

Isn't Niji first rodeo taking away permissions they gave to talents. Collab between Niji EN & Holo ID & EN was one of it. The collab was announced week ago and a few days before the collab, Niji suddenly canceled it by revoking the permission

[@brianwalsh1339]

11:55 well this comment aged liked milk, but in the best way possible.

[@TehEpicZippy]

Man... I remember whjen Vshojo was looked at like it was just a joke and now people looking for them to save talents from shitty corporations is really validating

[@akira8393]

More like looking like retirement home 😂

[@mustsnip537]

@@leonlionnoel yea but the dont take any "new" talents. its all pre established content creators in some form. none of VSHOJO is someone that came in from nothing.

[@lewiskellett5654]

vshojo content is stil awful but its less awful then niji

[@SeinenNinja]

That was around the time they had three departures and it looked at the surface as the agency was about to fall apart. Almost a year later it not only looks as strong as ever, but now a hopeful place for former talents to go to.

[@baka_ja_nai]

Well VShojo did have a major oopsie on the level of true shtshow, but looks like they made efforts to become better since then. Talents have nothing but praise for management.

[@IcantStressThisEnough]

The word youre looking for is dokibird. And mint fantome (ty dinnerforktongue) Fuck those forbidden knowledge guys. Edit: kuma_Vt

[@DinnerForkTongue]

And Mint Fantome.

[@MrRAGE-md5rj]

Who?

[@infamouse9263]

@@MrRAGE-md5rjselen is Dokibird pomu is mint fantome its their past life

[@HudaefCares]

"forbidden knowledge guys" used to refer to people that give away PL names in the cringiest ways, but now it's the opposite huh? 😅

[@OneBiasedOpinion]

Agree. Screw forbidden knowledge, that’s how you lose track of the people you actually want to keep up with. VTuber hive minds are some of the weirdest communities in terms of their gatekeeping habits.

[@knexfan100]

FEEDBACK: Please don't remove the post numbers, having those there is really nice for dudes that wanna look up the archived threads and see the insanity in all it's glory.

[@Artista_Frustrado]

especially for the art posts, thanks to that i now have the hellmo Zaion as my Wallpaper

[@flashtirade]

@@Artista_FrustradoI'd like to know which one you're talking about, for science

[@Artista_Frustrado]

@@flashtirade 10:29 good sir

[@flashtirade]

@@Artista_Frustradomuch appreciated

[@tylerensminger]

I'd be shocked if Selen sticks around. From I've heard she didn't even get to publicly wish Pomu goodbye

[@rionnachelliot8951]

"I want this to be the last niji video I make" *announcer voice* "this would not be the last niji video he would make"

[@_lime.]

The autism of 4chan to notice that a different apostrophe is used in Niji corporate tweets because they're not using a standard English keyboard. It's impressive what they can do when they put their minds to something. Also a sign that Niji is posting on her account, which is troubling because they wrote it as if it's from her.

[@AlveinFencer]

To be fair, another post shows times where Selen has used squiggly apostrophes (even on her PL's Twitter as shown in this video).

[@_zerstorer5094]

there is a saying “Never underestimate 4chan’s weaponized autism”.

[@smaragdwolf1]

if like-minded individuals come together and share a genuine liking of something, crowd smartness is a thing. Just like Redditors when they actually want something.

[@TheJjcczz]

Actually ‘ and this ' are both on the iPhone English keyboard. Though Selen likely has two keyboards on her phone an English one and a Chinese one. I have two and keyboards and accidentally swap sometimes myself. I usually only notice because it tells me the last word I typed was spelled wrong even though I know it’s not. Then I look at my keyboard and all of a sudden it says spás instead of space

[@aliekexie8467]

Well, they are the people that managed to find Shia's flag using bloody stars.

[@lexicon1742]

Nothing better to fall asleep to than schzio 4chan thoughts read by a Columbian

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Thinking Parrot is Brazilian is the true schizo. He's way too hinged for that.

[@ZeroXSEED]

Colombian!

[@PRIMELINE-]

Cocai-colombian!

[@lexicon1742]

​@@ZeroXSEEDThank you for the call out

[@CBRN-115]

What makes you think he's Colombian? He might be from Peru

[@Buitronthecrazy]

13:14 She did try to kill herself...

[@San-nj8fj]

One has to wonder what kind of otherworldly sources 4chan is privy to. Like, it wasn’t hard to figure out that Niji wanted to fire Selen, or that she herself was already on her way out of the company, but how did they know the exact reason for her hospitaliasation?

[@sovereigntyofvoyagers7380]

@@San-nj8fj I'm sure it was in the back of everyone's minds, but 4chan is the place where someone has the balls and anonymity to talk about it.

[@dark_knight109]

​@@San-nj8fj Their "otherworldly source" was her PL Twitter. The exact Tweet is in the video at 15:47, where she talks about "getting out of bed for the first time in a while" to turn on her PC, her friend saying "it's nice to hear her laugh again", and ending it with "Just taking one day at a time." That plus recent hospitalization (at a time of year when these incidents tend to spike) and people started to assume the worst. It initially came across as the usual 4chan hyperdramatic rrat-crafting, but this time it happened to be right.

[@bmanpura]

@@dark_knight109 What is insane is that 4chan usually assumed the worse of the worse, usually ending up very far from truth. This time though.. it is the truth.

[@Hamun002]

I’ll be honest I’ve felt like I’m going insane over the past few months because shit feels like Selen has been dropping hints constantly. When she got that Twitch Rivals medal and tweeted that she was shocked to have a physical reminder of her accomplishments really had me in a “she can’t hint that much can she?” mode. There are other things I noticed but it’s been hard NOT to interpret things, even like Last Cup of Coffee’s title. I just hope she’s well.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Dropping hints is very appropriate, with her last costume being a Moriarty expy. Too bad that Detective Rainpuff is hopping the boat as well.

[@Hamun002]

I’m not doing okay man

[@_Rj-]

He Called it😂6:41 He told you😂

[@FilthyGaijin]

17:03 Nostradamus is Amogus and posting on 4chan. Later tonight I will try to timestamp everything the anons got right

[@theabsolutetrashman3708]

28:59 "Must be a waste disposal company lol" JPbros sure didn't hold back, holy fuck

[@TheBuldog]

I lost my sides on the "Graduation is the main content" HOLY BASED

[@Psecter]

2chan doesn't hold back

[@crysis9003]

2chan is FAR more brutal, this seems tame honestly

[@Tuskor130]

6:40 HE CALLED IT

[@AJarOfYams]

If Selen joins Hololive, she could possibly become Moomei's kohai

[@matasa7463]

Bro if she could, that would be so awesome, and I bet Selen would get along real well with Bae, Ame, and Biboo!

[@elektra8535]

I think VspoEN would be better for her if she decides to not stay indie

[@wraithofavici]

was it all worth for years to wait and hear her story of failing multiple times on audition attempts?

[@jameyknapp9299]

@@elektra8535 I thought VSPO was an EN entity? is only V4Murai the only EN branch of BraveGroup?

[@torino5121]

Imagine a Selen and Botan collab

[@sitemoth]

06:41 well they were right. Only this time, people had enough...

[@yongtm47]

Part two is going to be godly

[@KinotheHedgehog]

6:40 Who else is back here because this anon was right?

[@hotkokoa]

holyshit anon is a oracle

[@SomeRandomGarchomp]

​@@hotkokoaRawr (That Anon is Ame confirmed)

[@Neil_Manta]

@@hotkokoa No, I think Kurosanji is just too predictable in their ways

[@bigsmoke6675]

Anycolor and they chose black Anycolor and they chose black Anycolor and they chose black

[@highwindknight]

I've been having fun watching lawyers, investigative reporters and accountants discuss the matter of Disney and it's failure of a CEO. So when it was discussed that the shareholder meeting of Nijisanji focused on the JP and saw the EN branch as a means of leading new fans to their JP main focus. Yeah, I suspect that nothing will get fixed. There is no value in fixing it. And yes, I believe it is completely management's fault, which in turn is the CEO's fault. The fish rots from the head down. At least Sakana is still a live fish, while Tazumi seems to just be rotten to the core by now.

[@Ranben.]

Koalas in the rain, eh?

[@ZenoDovahkiin]

Wait, they think watching their EN streamers will, instead of getting attached to the streamers, get me attached to the company and lead me to learn a language that's a lot of work to get down for a Germanic language native speaker just to then watch the same thing in Japanese done by people that aren't the ones that got me interested in the first place?

[@ijiikieru]

@@ZenoDovahkiin The funny thing is, besides the not getting attached to the EN streamers part, I am doing exactly this for Hololive so I can actually watch the JP streamers live and not have to rely on translation clips. lmao.

[@cirnotheicefairy3609]

@@ijiikieru I presume that's also likely for reasons like HoloEN members being fans of HoloJP members and HoloJP members adoring the HoloEN members, of which both sides are obviously supporting each other's successes. Which probably isn't something you're likely to find often in Nijisanji.

[@iz3798]

​@@ZenoDovahkiinThe funny thing is, if that's the reason then why did they stopped Selen from doing international collab and event? Selen literally got into Niji to bridge the gap between EN and JP, that's like one of her main reason for being there. It's really funny how they just burned the bridge that might funnel EN audience to the JP.

[@CillmaCuvas]

'I hope Pomu stays out of it' I mean, out is a rather interesting word to age into what technically happened. Doesn't get more out than graduation.

[@mdb45424]

If she pisses off jp, they will delete her vods.

[@CillmaCuvas]

@@mdb45424 what does that have anything to do with the blatant level of out she's partaking in?

[@roslolian11]

I noticed the livers who try to defend Niji also don't try to organize big projects so they never experienced doing all the work and getting it all ready just for someone in Niji Mgt to Nope and cancel it last second.

[@winster32]

27:00 This is exactly how I felt about Selen terminated.

[@Patches887]

I just realized Selen was absent during Pomu's graduation..........that sucks

[@Poglavnit_Pferdefuhrer]

U called it :

[@JanusGrombulus]

Selen never got to say goodbye to Pomu on stream

[@ruitakanashixD]

And they even terminated her

[@darling_astra]

6:46 ooooh buddy.. you don't say..

[@kisiro7557]

That hurts

[@Sleepyhead156]

thats just sad

[@lexicon1742]

Anyone else just listen to Parrot's videos in the background to get their daily stream of schzio thoughts?

[@devildante9]

No, I get enough of that between my own brain and being on 4chan for at least 3 hours a day. I watch these videos to put a funny voice on top of those thoughts.

[@ZeroXSEED]

I still hear his voice whenever I visit /vt/

[@LMSProductions2003]

Fr yeah like at some random point in the day my mind will just start doing the “sexo” yell 😂

[@Jyukenmaster95]

@@LMSProductions2003 oh good, so i'm not the only one

[@pedrofelipefreitas2666]

I lurk on vt, so this is more like a max0r video for 4chan for me.

[@sukositb]

When Pomu announce graduation I was sad. Then, I go to sleep and wake up happy.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Perfectly understandable.

[@akira8393]

I was happy, and then i point and laugh

[@tomatooverlord2764]

My first thought was "Oh no! I can't believe Nijisanji is losing Pomu!" My second thought was "Hooray! Vshojo is gaining Pomu!"

[@ninjablade2]

The only sad thing with this graduation is that we won't ever hear her say "I'm Pomu" again 😭

[@LontEnCaras]

@@tomatooverlord2764 As good as that would be, it's still just speculation. We don't really know who the new Vshojo member is gonna be. We only know, that they are a friend of Matara. But.. There are like three candidates in Nijisanji alone! 🤣 could be Pomu. Could also be Mika. Or even Selen!

[@Man_of_Cupcake]

That “serious talk” segment is nice to see. Acknowledging that the situation sucks before we go back to chuckling at all the unhinged takes. Remember to cherish time with your oshi whenever you can, everyone.

[@SenseiRaisen]

from one side, i don't had any beef with any of the nijilivers (except Finana and Kyo. I'm indiferent to them. And now Kotoka, if the rrat about been the person who Mel accidentally leaked something she shouldn't say).

[@akira8393]

@SenseiRaisen the only one i don't have a beef with is pomu and selen. at best it turn my brain off for a second at worse it annoys the hell out of me yet not the level of anyone else nijien ever do. I don't really have any attachments with vtubers much besides just laughing at their stupidity. nonetheless It's nice that they'll be doing alright

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@SenseiRaisen Put Uki on that list.

[@ZeroXSEED]

@@SenseiRaisen How the fuck is people still believing Kotoka rrat? Are people so dumb they can't remember dates? This isn't related to VCR either. This happened a while ago and only caught up to Mel now. A boomerang of karma, one would say.

[@crestianomisse4613]

​@@akira8393I'm curious, what other members have done to make you have "beef" with them?

[@HestiaPetrichor]

Petition for parrot man to release a full Tazumi grinch cover before his livestream. I need it on loop.

[@wonderfulcure8725]

Petition or request? 🤑

[@HestiaPetrichor]

Bro anything that gets me a full cover ;;u;;@@wonderfulcure8725

[@drzero7]

When parrot is tired of making fun of niji jokes, niji throws a shovel and tells u to keep digging. (Selen termination)

[@FilthyGaijin]

The ride never ends

[@kylewood4488-b9r]

She's doing great on her OG channel.

[@Phantomistress363]

Kyo is graduating now😂

[@thesleepyreader]

Guess who just got terminated~~

[@keycrafter7471]

@@thesleepyreader *free'd

[@dekufiremage7808]

Never liked Kyo but I feel bad for him that Niji undercut his graduation by being themselves and making the worst decision possible. If Niji could have stopped being up their own ass and let Selen graduate on her own terms the backlash would have been nowhere near as vitriolic. I feel most bad for Vivi though since I actually enjoy her content but she just joined this dogshit company and has to whether the storm awhile longer.

[@LordSleven]

Boy how time flies

[@TheDisquietingNight]

Thank you. I think this video is under a relatively great timing to distract us from...recent event. Also, great singing for the Grinch song

[@ДАНЯ_МГЕ]

What recent event

[@TheDisquietingNight]

@@ДАНЯ_МГЕ Mel's termination.

[@ДАНЯ_МГЕ]

@@TheDisquietingNight huh Well, at least it wasn't for some shitty unjustified reason And cover with her colleagues didn't throw her under the bus

[@hello-im]

Its all because of her new manager in 2023. Mel is too kind...

[@TheDisquietingNight]

@@hello-im ok, whst is this? First i heard of it. I thought she accidentally spill something when she's venting cus her pet died or somerhing lile that

[@indianabeaulne3187]

Remember that joke you made about the niji graduates being on mousy’s show then showing pomu? i’m not sure weather to say it aged poorly or perfectly

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Both. Like manure becoming fertilizer in a vat.

[@jameyknapp9299]

When just to pull out that "It's always Sunny in Philly" meme, Pomu's venting member stream was around June, She started her graduation stuffs in July? she did Speak of the Devil about 6 months ago... >.>

[@airbournestrike]

Graduation is the main content indeed

[@ClockworkCrow7]

>Graduation is the main content" MY SIDES.