Nika ET-4c Mengyuan Crab Bow Carbon by Elong Outdoor - Review

[@tabaredutto-canto4373]

Hey Armin, we need your advices and maybe your help please. You promoted this Et-4C bow and numbers of your followers bought it. Now It’s seems that there is a problem with the production. The costumer service of Nika said that the bows above 30lbs have issues reported by costumers, Nika is pretty secretive on these issues. Now they are up to 150 days of delay trying to find a solution. Would be nice if you can reach them and ask: - What are the technical issues? - Have any of those 30+lbs bow snapped? - what have the costumers reported exactly? - Are there any safety issues with those bows? - How did they resolve those issues? And maybe you could do an other review of the 50lbs when it finally comes out.

[@sirhcw4369]

The original bow snapped around 500 shots I had 3 of them and they all lasted about the same amount of shots. They were a waste of money

[@gastonaubin6595]

I had ordered a 40# in November 2023, and in June contacted them on when it would come in . They were revamping their heavier weight molds, so we agreed on a 32# and it came in weeks later. It was worth the wait, it’s such a fun bow, and performs as advertised. Thanks Armin

[@danielbungeneers8757]

Et-4c ordered on November 6. Price: $154 with code Armin and free shipping (Belgium). Received December 26. Superb bow, well made. tested at short distance....wow

[@mikecampbell1831]

Hello Armin! Thanks for leading me to this bow. I ordered it (38#) on 22 November 2024 and received it today, 9 December 2024. It is one handsome and well-made bow. Was a great experience, can't wait to shoot it tomorrow!

[@Buddlertom]

After having waited for six months, I finallly got this bow. Needed some time to sand down the connecting middle part, but finally, it fits perfect. Oh girls and boys, I love this bow. I own more than 30 bows, somehow addicted to this hobby. This is the best non-laminated bow I own. Outstanding value for the price. Ordered in 35 LBS, no complains yet after 200+ arrows.

[@UncleDanBand64]

The first time I saw the little plastic crab bow, like you I thought that would be awesome in a heavier weight. Love it.

[@SuperBori0930]

Hello I’m Korean middle school student. I like your video and thank you for making such a wonderful video❤❤❤

[@garrettevans8863]

I had been looking for quite some time for a bow that checks all the boxes that this one does. Thank you so much Armin for sharing this one with us, can’t wait until they are up for grabs!

[@johngabutan3335]

Holy moly... I just found a new bow that looks amazing!!

[@wayofarrow]

@ArminHirmer. I think you may consider updating your review. The bow has now 6months wait and price has also increased to $189. The bow is undergoing redesign due to some flaws, maybe you can find out what these are. Imho the bow was prematurely launched. Im not sure if there is some partnering/sponsorship with Nika, but the Nika webpage has your image so perhaps you may have some inside information to share?

[@FlamingoJoe333]

Agreed. Their page says sold out now. Ordered 44# in October I’ve not even received any communication about the delay or redesign nor is there anything on their website or socials. The only reason I know what’s going on is this comment section. Ridiculous.

[@ArminHirmer]

I know as much as you. They received quite some orders and the production was not as fast as they expected and then came a few problems, which needed to be addressed

[@gregoryluc2876]

That baby really shoots and is very quiet to cap it off! Very , very nice!!

[@0ooTheMAXXoo0]

So awesome! I love the draw length of the original bow, but it is very soft and wobbly. This new development is amazing!

[@blacknapalm2131]

08:14 *That reaction tells us all we need to know*

[@davidwilkinson333]

Great to see Armin so animated over a bow! 😃 To paraphrase Christopher Marlowe: 'Was this the face that sells a thousand bows' It seems an outstanding bow for the money, now I just have to figure out how to justify buying yet another bow! :-)

[@patgarrett3746]

I checked on their website. They make the bow from 14lbs to 50 lbs. You could potentially buy this bow to introduce your children to archery and I have no doubt that it would still be around for the grandchildren to shoot.

[@ChrisClaes-se5td]

Well, I received mine in 40 lbs last week (ordered it december 2023). I like it….I did glue it together and was suprised hoe accurate I was with just a few shots.

[@miguelveratraditionalarche9374]

It looks very promising and this version looks like it was a big leap in evolution.🏹🙂

[@stevenparsons4464]

Mine arrived yesterday. An extra string, a Mik'a Archery 🏹 pin, a safety warning card. It did take seven months, yet the result is well worth the wait. Mine is 30# at 28" in black. I will be ordering a second in white of 15ish # if they make a second run. Excellent review. Excellent product.

[@pc1974qld]

I really enjoy your reviews, shooting targets in the backyard with traditional bows very relaxing, thanks to you I know what bows are next on my Wishlist, cheers

[@johncuthbertson2565]

I had both the previous versions and loved them to bits, tried everything with them and they took it all with ease, till the weaker one snapped due to being drawn 34" all the time 🤷🏻‍♂️ my fault . The shape is just stunning. Commented to them about a 34" draw version and they replied that they could do that but would take about 3 months. I will be getting one of those for sure 😊. Awesome video as always 🙏

[@ianbruce6515]

I'd love to get a 34" draw version!

[@johncuthbertson2565]

Just ask them for one, no harm in asking 👍 I just got an air rifle so have to keep under the wife's radar 😉

[@gizmonomono]

I ordered it about a month ago, don't know when I'll receive it, but I'm looking forward to it 😁

[@ambidextrousarchery]

I love it! Thank you for the voucher, Armin!

[@gregoryluc2876]

Armin, I really enjoy your shows and expertise in archery. I don’t envy a fellow archers but I totally enjoy your shooting surroundings/ shooting grounds!! Very nice indeed!! Keep up the great work!!

[@mattredfern1339]

just bought two! one at 36# and another at 48#. now i am on the edge of my seat lol many Thanks for the discount code Armin, Thank You and may your arrows always fly straight and True Brother...

[@N0rnagest]

You got as far as stringing it, testing the stiffness and drawing it to 32".... and I decided that this is my next bow....

[@syla-sybin]

Just preordered it, it's bloody beautiful ❤

[@havahand]

Fair warning on heavier draw versions: My order (November 3rd) for a 50Lbs version was just cancelled (1/8/24) by Nika, without my consent. They did, however, offer to notify me when the bow is available and to honor the original price. This is a disappointment, but perhaps for the best. Apparently they are having issues with higher weight versions that will require some unspecified duration to address. I recommended a non-takedown version and their reply indicated they might be considering it. For a Chinese company, their communication is excellent, with the exception of canceling orders without customer consent.

[@Nika-Archery]

Hello, may I ask what is your order number? I will investigate the situation and assist you in restoring your order.

[@havahand]

@@Nika-Archery I appreciate the offer. Tied up with other bows presently.

[@chrisw7248]

Wow, 13 minutes in and I'm convinced, I will definitely be getting one of these! it's exactly what i have been looking for ! great review so far Armin

[@nicolasmojoli7907]

¡Excelente Armin! Veré la forma de comprarme uno de 50# 28"

[@nicolasmojoli7907]

Saludos desde Uruguay.

[@bernatbabcsan8248]

Looks like a perfect fishing, survival bow.

[@jarmelbarnett6922]

Good review as always. Armin, you are the KZbin content maker I look to for reviews of Asian bow. I will certainly consider this bow as a good everyday bow as it can be ordered up to 50 pounds draw weight. I will probably get it as a 40 pound draw. Thank you again.

[@ianbruce6515]

I received my bow! I love it! It shoots much better than I do. (I no longer live where I can practice on my own property). If I do everything somewhere near correctly the arrows fly very well and very accurately. I have other bows that are much less forgiving of minor imperfections in technique. The draw is smooth ,and it is fast. The siyahs are very narrow at the location of the string grooves, so I anticipate that this is going to be hard on the string loops. I may have to make a string that has super durable string loops servings. I'm not sure how long the string that came with the bow will hold up. Some bows with very narrow siyahs are thickened at the string grooves. Overall--it is an utterly amazing bow for the price!

[@chrisschuur7828]

Where did you order from? How many days did it take for you to receive it?

[@arealcanadian7448]

What # did you order some people who ordered higher # are saying there orders are getting canceled

[@josipzagar57]

It is very satisfying to see this very original and promising idea of a simple horsebow mature. I was actualy thinking of buying the original, but the flimsiness and some bad reviews have so far managed to put me off. But this one I will buy in time. I like the shape and I lake the new material and the choice of higher poundages. Thank you for your work Armin and I wish you all the best from Slovenia (a neighbouring state).

[@The_Pickle34]

I don't have a takedown bow. So I don't feel like I have a good travel one. Time to pull the trigger and use your code I think!

[@DANTHETUBEMAN]

The shapes on this bow are so pleasing, the smooth transitions look vary good, crab bow technoligy in fiberglass/carbon/epoxy materials. a 50 pound draw could be under my Xmas tree 😊

[@joachimgotte4232]

A happy Armin again… As I startet Archery with a Snake bow and changed to ILF to get comradery in a local Club now ist is exactly the right time to get one of these bows in WHITE! Thank you for reviewing and Inspiration again!

[@joachimgotte4232]

GOT IT ❤ I need matching arrows! A new year in archery with a total new experience will come and will be full of joy! Thanks to Elong Outdoor and Armin with his smile and joy in the review. 🎉

[@anchorboy12]

Pretty bow . Gets me excited about the Grozer bow I just ordered!!! My first Grozer bow!

[@marcbannerman7841]

Thank you Armin. I came across this bow recently while searching for my first Asiatic bow, & I've spent the last 2 weeks trying to decide if I should buy one. Now I'm convinced! Thanks for your helpful review 🙂

[@Leverguns50]

That might make a good survival bow

[@rickydlayaute5387]

Hi Meister Armin nice to see you again!! Richard👍😎🇫🇷🏹

[@TheAnonymousSword]

I was looking for a bow to take along when traveling in europe and that needed to be somewhat bad weather proof. I think this is a great bow when you are outside and just want to shoot without having to worry to much about your equipment. Looks like the next step up if you are looking for a takedown rolan snake in carbon and a more traditional form. hyped.

[@jedgurley]

I would have to say that if you did get this bow, you should put a uv protestant on it that resist water, I'm not sure what the base polymers are made of and most are uv sensitive, and many absorb water , enough so that freezing could cause a problem over time.. so, protect it just in case... looks like an awesome bow!

[@TheAnonymousSword]

@@jedgurley thank you, I didn’t consider this yet. Will look into it.

[@michaelfenter1723]

Thank you for all your great content Armin! I've been watching this for months because I've wanted this exact design. At this point, I'd like to know what alternatives are out there in a weatherproof, take-down, crab/horse bow in hunting weights (45+). Bummer that this has been such a challenge for Nik'a, but I hope they see it through.

[@bernatbabcsan8248]

I Just tried out my 60lbs Végh turkish with a320grain carbon29",I dönt have a chrono but it felt 270ish fps. I realized that I have a Medieval compound bow with áll Its beauty. ❤

[@markod7662]

I want at least one of these! Probably 2 if they have different poundage. This is what i was looking for.

[@jareth7456]

I had the exact same thoughts of this bow in carbon ...I'm glad they listened to you buddy . Your video quality is amazing 👏

[@mikeorick6898]

Thank you. What I need to know from a trusted source. I was hoping they would do heavier draw weight models.

[@jfbock7512]

Oh no, you got me hooked again😂

[@Wolfcavexxx777]

what a wonderful Basic Bow !I love the speed and the fact you can transport this nice one in a Backpack if you want very nice thank You for showing Armin all good wishes for You and Your beloved ones Greetings from Germany Javor 🍀

[@agamagreen]

I’m curious about the white version! 😁 Thank you so much for the very enthusiastic review! Very convincing! ☺️🙏🙏

[@nappinglunarc.8312]

Thank you for the detailed review. Thanks to you Meister, I will buy this bow as soon as possible.

[@Wishbringer7]

I bought and own one of their previous bows of this style... and it is one of the worst bows I've had the displeasure of shooting. It was rated at 25# draw but my digital bow scale shows it as drawing 12.8 lbs at a 30 inch draw. It can't even get an arrow down a 20 yard lane and make it stick in the target. So I'd certainly hope their carbon bow is a better version of their prior "toy" bow that is currently sitting in a corner collecting dust. ; )

[@mikegiammarise7861]

Cool to see that it lasts throughout a cold night like in a camp out situation

[@mrln247]

I bought one of the plastic "toy" crab bows to play with thumb draw, it's still going just weak. This looks like a great bow. Expect the video has just doubled the waiting list.

[@dvpzy]

sold out! This is a masterpiece! I want the 50lb so bad!

[@stevenparsons4464]

Hi. I am at six [6] months from my order. I received the shipping notification midweek last week. I am eager to have it arrive.

[@jalalbusri7294]

thank you for the review sir. Been searching for crab bow.

[@harlinwall9367]

This looks very interesting... I'm hoping they will make a heavier draw weight version!!! This bow looks promising! Thanks for sharing another wonderful review with our community. 😊🏹🎯

[@doppelminds1040]

I really want to try one of these bows, hopefully they come back again soon

[@ArminHirmer]

they will

[@p.s.9658]

I like this design, Mr Hirmer. I feel that is ellegant and at the same time handy, fluid as strong. Maybe for 40 lbs beginning and do some tracking journeys.

[@rawls1976]

Great looking bow. I think I need one 😉🏹❤️

[@markroberts6971]

Very nice effort on Elong’s behalf. IF they would make a true one-piece construction, for a step up version, it could easily be lighter over all, and stronger in the riser section, and a more ovalized grip could also be possible. The 2-piece take down requires the unfortunate flat surface for indexing the limbs joint. That isn’t a benefit to the archers shooting experience. Beautiful bow though, with consistency in shooting.

[@intezamable]

oh, wow, I want one, cannot wait!

[@_Michiel_]

Looks amazing and not crappy at all!

[@stefanlindner6059]

well Armin I didn‘t miss nearly one of your presentations 🎉 This seems to be a really awesome piece !! It‘s fascinating how many improvements we face on the age old idea of a two ended stick …. und a nette shooting range hast Du da - so was würd mir auch gfalln / Ois Guade aus Erding

[@peterharetzmueller2983]

Hallo Armin, verliert der Bogen auch mit Zeit an Zuggewicht, wie sein Kunststoff - Bruder?

[@ArminHirmer]

nein, der bleibt relativ stabil

[@letti8466]

I've been wondering when you're going to make a video about the new bow. Unfortunately I ordered my (first) Asian reflex bow from Nika a week ago. But I would like to say thank you again for your videos, even if I write very little. They have always helped me a lot with the topic of Asian reflex bows. I'm sure you're going to make a video about Nika's "Assyria Model" as well, right? Greetings from Germany

[@ArminHirmer]

if they send this model to me, I will :)

[@rucuscoetzee4895]

Now that is cool! I used the fist one and it was okay, but this does look premium!

[@markroberts6971]

Nice section of continuous Blind Nocking shooting going on there.

[@KarlLoncarek]

Wow, looks very nice. Take-down is great for transportation (as other horsebows do not fit in the trunk of my car). I think I'll get one. I just have to decide about the poundage. Currently I draw around 32" so I have take in acount the increasing stiffness for still being comfortable when drawing (my 53" bow has 26@28"). I saw also there is white version. Looks also very nice but I guess it's simply painted white and assume that the white paint will wear over time.

[@thinhtran3126]

Hello, with a bow that comes in naked and simple like this. Can you make a video that shows us all the modifications you can put on an asiatic bow? I.e. how to install arrow nock Better grips Impact/vibration reduction Different reinforcement mods to strengthen bows from breaking (for traditional wood bows) Can you go in the historical methods that archery may also use? I watched War of the Arrows movie and noticed that korean bowyer wraps cloth at string nock, idk for what purpose specifically, maybe to silence the bow? Then i saw the manchurian bowyers wraps cloth and leather along the rest of the bows too.

[@kvnleiai]

Longevity is really my main concern. Really appreciate the compact form factor and I have used an early model from aliexpress 2019 @~30 pounds, until it broke around the geometric transition, after 2 years and about 2000 shots, on a winter day. I really want to know how Nika Archery approached this iteration, how/where is the carbon fiber incorporated?(I suppose only at the leverage as is shown?) Is it made from long strands of fiberglass and carbon or are they basically short shredded fibers that are mixed into the injection molding process, throughout the whole piece? How is the working limb material compared to plain fiberglass backing material? I would be interested in the higher draw 48# or 50# but I am not convinced, with the given information, on how the manufacturing of this iteration has been improved on to be significantly more reliable.

[@archeryelong]

Hi, kvnleiai Hope this helps with your confusion. ET-4 Mengyuan bow is made of nylon mixed with short fiberglass in the injection molding process. ET-4C Mengyuan carbon bow is made of a new composite material of continuous carbon fiber+continuous fiberglass in the high pressure, high temperature molding process, ensuring that the bow limbs will not twist and will not be affected by extreme weather conditions. It can be used in minus 30 degrees.

[@benpriestman4015]

​@@archeryelongwhat is expected delivery time to UK?

[@kvnleiai]

hello @@archeryelong- Very glad about your response, especially on the application of continuous fiberglass! Would you further elaborate on how your manufacturing process compares, in terms of sturdiness, with other fiberglass laminated bows? This travel-friendly bow would seem suited for the context of combat-archery sports or archery-tag: where the bows are exposed to various stresses as the players maneuver through the terrain, dodging and overcoming obstacles.

[@archeryelong]

Hi, kvnleiai We are the first company in the world to make traditional bows with this process, thanks to the efforts of our R&D and production technology team, which has been making breakthroughs in technology. Laminated bows are made by gluing a glass fibre board to a wood or PU sheet and heating and pressing it into shape; while our ET-4C bows are made by one-piece high-temperature and high-pressure moulding without gluing, not using the injection moulding process of ET-4, not a thermoplastic material like ET-4. If you are interested, please refer to our NIKA ARCHERY N3 and N3 PRO series bow limbs. It is not affected by the environment and will not explode suddenly.

[@archeryelong]

@@benpriestman4015 It's still in production, order now and it will take about 2 months.

[@kjodwex]

Hi Armin, I just thought I should let you know my experience with this lovely bow which you may or may not find interesting. I ordered it as 30# draw weight but my bow is much heavier than that. The labels on the limbs read as follows: 311022 30A bottom limb and 311032 30B top limb. I have only today been able to measure the draw weight and it reads as follows: 31.5 # @ 26" 36.4# @ 28" and 43.0# @ 30" This is a substantial difference for me (6.4#) as I am a beginner at archery. My draw length is 30" so 43# at that length is difficult. I have sent an email to Nika about this for their information.

[@robbieguerrero3351]

ARMIN :) YOU OLD DOG! THANKS FOR SHOWING ANOTHER OLD DOG ABOUT ARCHERY!

[@tawaitai]

What grain & spine would you recommend for this Nika TD Bow???

[@abeldasilva9368]

I tried a friend’s Nika et -4c 35# @28”I really did not like it too much hand shock was just way too much for me plus the grip was just totally useless sliding around on you at all times.I guess my friend got a product that did not go through quality control .At the end he got rid of it after doing some repairs to it.😢Would be cheaper to get an Alibow fibreglass Tartar bow at $75 dollars .Armin could it be yours was selected in such a way that you would give an outstanding review ? Beautiful video though.

[@Cayde-1]

Best video before sleep so calm relax.

[@kvnleiai]

Armin, when you are measuring the speed, starting minute 12, you shoot arrows stating the following weights while displaying the GrainPerPound: 400 grain - 8.2 gpp -170, 176, 178 fps 385 grain - 7.9 gpp -177, 179 340 grain - 6.9 gpp - 185, 184,187 fps Did you draw to 31-32" because it did not look like it to me. As a feedback, I would appreciate it if you were more structured on the data of your bow reviews or make them more accessible such as with the Draw Weight: 38#@28" 43#@30" 49#@32" Thank you for the insightful reviews nonetheless!

[@ArminHirmer]

yeah I think I still drew just 31 inches... still enough to give you an idea of the bows performance I guess

[@mikeyb9847]

Just a heads up, their site now says 150 days from the order date.

[@SeaDave]

Neat bow. I just ordered one. It does check alot of the boxes for sure. Is it twist proof? Did you let all those users string it themselves? Thanks Armin!

[@ArminHirmer]

some yes

[@mattredfern1339]

awesome, been trying to find one available in britain all week ready for payday next friday...

[@SuperArdly]

8:16 says it all

[@cherniqhs]

@Armin - just to let you know the code is for 5 dollars off not 5% :) Thank you for another great review :)

[@psychoshonen]

Now debating between this as a prebuy, or getting a Nökhör in 40lbs. Armin, any recommendation as between the two?

[@ArminHirmer]

get both :) the Nökhör long and this one ;)

[@psychoshonen]

​@@ArminHirmerI guess it's time to proper start building up the collection then :) Thank you for the reply, and for all the work you put in to your excellent content. Your channel is what inspired me to pick up a bow.

[@NMXP]

What do you recommend when switching from 3 finger to thumb draw for poundage? I usually shoot 60# three fingers so what would appropriate starting weight be for thumb?

[@ArminHirmer]

half of it :)

[@NMXP]

@@ArminHirmer thank you

[@markroberts6971]

Armin, did you get to take this to the Parkiur range?

[@ArminHirmer]

Yes Sir, worked great

[@Domenico_Einaudi]

If you were to choose between the Scythian from Flagella Dei or this ET-4c, which would you buy ?

[@ArminHirmer]

this one

[@toddlabbe3973]

I have ordered a ton of these off Ali Baba, they are not carbon fiber though, but they look the EXACT same. They are $20 USD and come in about #20 draw weight. I usually cut the ends off and turn it into a #25 bow. haha. I see this one is Carbon Fiber. Any idea what is going on for the manufacturing? Why is there a ton of these bows in a different material being sold mass by tons of distributers but this bow has a mark up of $100ish, looks the exact same but a different material. Did you do a video on its predecessor maybe?

[@ArminHirmer]

if you watch my video, you will know that there are links to the former models included :) this one cannot be compared to the old ones

[@crazyhandyman2668]

thank you

[@krustysurfer]

Sleek setup for the price 👍💯🎯 Thank you

[@wayofarrow]

Still not received my bow that I ordered on 11/11/23. 😠 No idea when it will actually be shipped. Nika says they are prioritising production of low poundage bow first, rather than by order sequence. Disappointing and discriminating against high draw archers.

[@ArminHirmer]

discriminating, come on brother. Its. anew bow, let them figure first all things out. Or would you like to get a bow which will break directly?

[@wayofarrow]

Hi Armin, Nika have just told me that due to customer feedback they are adjusting design for bows above 30lbs for improved longevity, hence the delay. I believe your bow was 38lbs, did you have any issues that Nika might be trying to improve on? Anyone else have this bow yet?

[@ArminHirmer]

No problems with my one, but I saw that there are others with some issues

[@Vet-jq1fx]

Thanks for the video, can you tell me who makes the shirt you are wearing?

[@AceChevChelios]

Oha woaw wie cool 😎 ich werde mir erstmal selbst einen Hybrid bogen bauen hab super Inspiration von ihnen vielen dank ,für das Wissen durch ihre Videos weiter so 👍

[@asr5657]

Nice, definitely going to get one 👍🏽

[@AceChevChelios]

Hatte einen Reiter Bogen von Amazon aber mir ist das komplette griffstück an der Seite weg geschliffen vom Leder und Stoff kann man sowas fixen ? Oder gibt es Tricks zum vermeiden ?

[@johncuthbertson2565]

Wow, this is a popular bow 😀

[@daniallau4717]

Hello Armin big fan, would you say that this bow can be quiet durable compared to the traditional bows?

[@ArminHirmer]

yes

[@OuiOui-pb8by]

Delay was 60 days then 90 days,now it's 180 days ! I don't know if I'm ever going to get m'y bow😔

[@laurentmeiller5171]

nice design and fish, do you think it would be a god bow for parcours for beginners (even with mediterranean technic) in low poundage or the snake will be more adapted ?

[@ArminHirmer]

sacrilege shooting this beauty with 3 fingers :D but it would work nicely

[@kjodwex]

Thank you for your great channel. I'm a beginner with a barebow. I've just ordered this bow 30 lb draw weight... I draw 30". Can you please advise me as to what arrows I should use?

[@QuinnCalibur]

Pretty bow!

[@Archerstidbits]

Getting this one!