Oda FINALLY Reveals the Dark Truth About Sun God Nika

[@TheWarmachine375]

Luffy: "For the last time, I am not the Messiah!" Giants of Elbaph: *"HE IS THE MESSIAH!!!"*

[@voidhunter9788]

Giving God Usopp vibes as well, which was also with Hajrudin

[@manny6669]

@@TheWarmachine375 li’san Al gaib

[@Ohara-the-Fox]

monty python comment gets pinned haha

[@Mouhamadouisgoat]

@@Ohara-the-Fox ty

[@Fishhunter2014]

luffy al gaib!

[@AceAlbatros]

The inevitable scene when all the giants of Elbaph see Gear 5 Luffy while he’s fighting is gonna be top tier!

[@WashGooooooood]

Grown man here: I’ll be ugly crying and laughing at the same time.

[@LaughTaleReview]

Couldn't agree more!

[@AceAlbatros]

@@WashGoooooooodgrown man here too: same here! When I started one piece I didn’t believe I would cry over a boat, boy was I wrong!

[@Gravedigger432]

@@AceAlbatrosbro Marineford gets me every time. I have rewatched the show a dozen times because I wait for a season to finish before watching it so I can binge watch it. These last couple seasons are dragging ass

[@AceAlbatros]

@@Gravedigger432 completely agree my man! Something that helps with the dragging of arcs (Especially Dressrosa and Wano) is something called One Pace. It’s edited episodes that cut out all the extended scenes that don’t matter and saves a lot of time!

[@quantasium]

So basically, the Hito Hito no mie: Model Nika fruit is like a reset button for the world. When one regime becomes too powerful, then it needs to be toppled.

[@AnimeBinger370]

Shanks twin brother is Gildarts, he isekai'd himself because he was not getting any screentime in Fairy Tail.

[@kingyibck]

Ayo man you got some dope community tab polls xd, I saw a comment glazing your polls so I checked and oh my was I not disappointed. I'm def sudcribing btw to not miss any of them in the future. Btw can u pls do some naruto ones too i really wanna know abt peoples thoughts on it, like u did the uhh one piece one. btw i am a big fan now, i also see ur comments in many places.

[@deadrat8731]

@@kingyibck bot

[@JSmaK_]

Loki as a kid sounds very similar to naruto as a kid. Everyone hated him because he was a menace, but naruto is actually a good and kind hearted person. Perspective is key.

[@luiscruz3261]

Naruto didn't create this trope.

[@JSmaK_]

@ @luiscruz3261 Never said he did. I’m comparing the two situations of peoples perspectives on individuals

[@KingExodia99]

bruhh

[@CapncrunchVI]

I was thinking the same thing

[@AbhijithShajan]

I think the first Nika brought destruction because, in the first Nika picture, he has two weapons in his hands. The Nika shown in chapter 1136 has one shield and one weapon, so he both protected and destroyed people or the world. However, Luffy doesn’t have any weapons, so he will only protect the world.

[@999_yuri]

So... (my opinion) he doesn't have a shield or a weapon, I think it means that he will NOT destroy the world but will fight for it...?

[@chandlerreviews8804]

Luffy has nothing in his hands because his fate is not decided he is full of possibilities

[@Ascalon90-0]

For me, the bigges reveal was that Lokis father has been murdered in his castle. The very castle we saw two chapters ago, when two holy knights teleportet to it. Maybe Lokis story is a parallel to Odens, but what is instead of meeting Rodger and Whitebeard, Loki met the world goverment. People who promised to help him get the throne from his father, if he would just grand them access to Elbaf. Maybe place some cyrcke on the ground of the castle. But then his wish was granted in a way he didn't intended and they killed hin in front of his eyes. Would explain the rage.

[@luffy-j5u]

@@Ascalon90-0 I think king Harland was a scum like mother Carmel , then government kill him and put the blame on Loki, Loki is keeping this inside him

[@Pkey995]

44:14 45:00 HARLEQUIN The legendary Devilfruit is the mythical Human Human fruit model Harlequin. Based on the "harley" text I think it is pretty save to assume that it is the case. "Hellequin was depicted as a black-faced emissary of the devil, roaming the countryside with a group of demons chasing the damned souls of evil people to Hell" Sounds familiar? Harlequin just like Nika is always laughing but in a malicious way. Harlequin is basically the italian/french version of Loki. A trickster, nobody knows if he is actually doing good or evil things. The Elbaf Giants are mistaking Harlequin for Nika... Basically a "Joker" in a deck of cards (played too much balatro lately)

[@Datduuudeee]

@Pkey995 Loki is not Margot Robbie man. Might as well put Batman and Robin in the story too😅 (these are jokes, relax)

[@Pkey995]

@@Datduuudeee xD the fruit could also be called "jester" if oda doesnt want a "harleyquinn" comparison assuming the theory is right..

[@zekrom238]

Loki playing pranks and being mischievous reminds me of Usopp screaming "pirates are coming" during the pre-time skip

[@SteviHill-tf1bb]

You mean all the arson?

[@GhostLGNDClashRoyale]

PRANKS , shanks brother could be Pranks

[@rz_keditz]

Shank twin brother is thanks😂

[@monkeyd.uzumaki9831]

@@rz_keditz lol

[@Ash0798]

Nah Bhanks or Spanks

[@Ash0798]

Imagine luffy saying thanks to him 💀 like "hey thanks thanks"

[@rz_keditz]

😂​@@Ash0798

[@Matt-vc2te]

This is better than what Reddit people have been calling him lmao

[@AgentZ-Z_z]

Yo Ohara something that I noticed is that the celestial dragons kill races that worship Nika (Sun God) just like the catholic or English church did to the native Americans and Native Islanders.

[@godhimself3460]

@@AgentZ-Z_z op based on the real world

[@zorororonoa22]

To take it even further the Catholics were targeted in Rome for worshipping Jesus before the conversion of the republic by Constantine

[@itsmestape7204]

And it makes sense because the one that leads rebellion rebel against the celestials, Dragon, is also of Native influence

[@AceAlbatros]

I saw a reddit comment that said “since there were two times the world was destroyed, the first Nika could have been from 1600 years ago and JoyBoy was 800 years ago and now Luffy is the modern age 800 years later.” I love that theory because it makes so much sense with what we hear in this chapter.

[@JP-zn8md]

@AceAlbatros could chapter 1600 also be the end of One Piece?? A full circle of events?

[@Neversellinout]

You really went in on this one! Appreciate the contact and delivery as usual.

[@traviskroeg1856]

I think we're overlooking how the sword in the Elder Giant's head is probably hinting at Loki's Devil Fruit power, pair that with Loki's possible transport by Shanks and how Loki will possibly travel with Luffy if he joins the crew and all of this leads me to believe that Loki ate the Space-Space Fruit making Loki a Space Man (lol love the name). Basically this fruit would allow someone to manipulate space as they like whether it be altering how much space someone takes up (aka a giant taking up less space by becoming smaller, possibly with a distortion space like how Bege can use his Castle fruit to make things smaller within a certain range of him) but the fruit could also allow items to move through space regardless whether something is in the way or not, this would all Loki's sword to go through the Elder Giant's head but not kill him and Loki used this ability either on purpose or subconsciously when he stabbed the Elder Giant because in truth he didn't actually want to hurt nor kill the Elder Giant.

[@inuku2629]

I think Luffy is already both Liberator and the Destroyer, he liberated a lot of people already, but every time places around him get destroyed Since the timeskip and sometimes before that every island Luffy visits is completely or partly ravaged by the end of the arc but people are happier and thank him Punk Hazard, lab is in shambles (pun intended) and whole island is unhabitable but children, lackeys and marines were saved Dressrosa, most of the island was sliced, unfixable damage to how the country looks but Doflamingo was exposed and arrested and people were happier Whole Cake Island arc, few islands destroyed in battle, Whole Cake Chateu is in pieces, Forest got a fair share of beating and mirror verse is really destroyed, but people who needed to be liberated were happy (Sanji, at some point Germa, Katakuri liberated at least for a while from his burdens) Wano, Onigashima and Udon got completely destroyed but the civilians REALLY needed a Liberator Egghead, whole island got involved in his battle but Vegapunks are now free from the government and Bonney is a lot happier And some day, Luffy will destroy the Fishman Island, last time Noah got most of the beating But I'm sure Fishman will be thankfull to Luffy in the end

[@tvojtatkovsyn9980]

My theory: Imu is the creator of devil fruits, she wanted to share her powers and make people free in a way… but that resulted in fighting over power, 20 kingdoms everybody now has dfs but why a normal person with a powerful logia would live in poverty when some kings have not so useful df, so people would fight and it ended up being a war… Imu had to take back their powers but she can’t, the df would just respawn… so Imu then had an idea, raise the sea levels so df users would die all at once, no more df users would mean peace (in a way)… With the gorosei in order to give them powers she would not make the same mistake, she would not give them df but instead her own power, so when she takes it back the person dies and the df doesn’t respawn… in the end Imu is not the villain, all she wants is peace

[@Darth_Scesnoph]

"Two Nikas" 💀

[@its.Trill_]

Nikas in Paris

[@TweaQAU]

Manu, do you think that's why the Celestial Dragons wear those bubble suits? To stop them from drowning when the world floods again?

[@9469]

The Frozen straw hat was Joyboys old hat, he was a Giant and you are entirely correct I believe that instead of thriller bark where the dead comes back to life, IMU brings the knights back to life.

[@kyngkasper5177]

Random theory: Imu is the original Nika that came to Earth, eventually became corrupted with power and is how Imu got “demonic” powers. Joyboy is a descendant of Imu who tried to rid Imu of his corruption but lead to the destruction of the Ancient Kingdom instead. Joyboy inherited the will of the people of the ancient kingdom to be free from Imu’s corruption. Another theory: Loki’s mentor could have been a member of the Rock’s pirates since he wants to destroy the world similar to how Rock’s wanted to (mainly the world gov’t).

[@johnnylight0]

The devil fruit passed down in the giant royal family has to be the real Gomu Gomu, especially if they know there's a connection between Nika and a fruit that makes someone stretchy. It would be hilarious if Loki announces his attacks with Nika Nika instead of Gomu Gomu.

[@ScottHamilton-ur7iu]

Luffy needs to destroy Imu's oppressed world in order to create a new world of liberation.

[@Yellowmasked]

I think your theory is right, remember when luffy was on fishman island and then there was a girl who predicted the destruction of the island caused by luffy, if we take the fact that nika is a destroyer than it makes a lot of sense.

[@davidivey8920]

@@Yellowmasked thisssss

[@Yellowmasked]

@@davidivey8920 what do you mean ?

[@davidivey8920]

@ I was saying great take I agree

[@kasima365]

Damn, this ish is getting deep 🤯

[@yeah._dillon490]

@@Yellowmasked I don’t think he’s destroying it for bad I think he opens up fishmenisland which destroys it but will happen anyway to bring fishmen to other people

[@kangev8662]

My headcanon right now is this: King Herald was a good king beloved by his people. He changed Elbaf, turning it away from a place that raises its children to be violent and strong in favor of a learned nation valuing peace, trade and prosperity. Loki somehow learned about the World Governments past in Elbaf, before he went out to sea. He feels betrayed by his father being "a coward" and turning tail against the WG, because he lacked guidance from his guardians. At this point he is 1) either tricked by the world government into killing his father, or 2) the holy knights assassinate him, which would explain how they can teleport into the throne room. Either way, Herald is dead, Loki gets the pseudo-Sun God fruit and leads a solo raid on Mary Geoise. The WG needs someone to clean up the mess, and here Shanks comes in. Shanks somehow has ties to the Celestial Dragons, how exactly is irrelevant, because his main goal is to keep peace and balance. He wants change, but waits for Luffy/Nika/Joyboy. If Elbaf went all out to war, the Adam tree would fall into their hands and a big ally against the WG falls off. Shanks stops Loki in his rage, Loki calls him a coward for not joining him even though he has similar values and Shanks packs him up and binds him to Adam with the help of all giants. There are a few gaps, but I'd really love to see even parts of this be right, cuz I love theorycrafting! :> Great video

[@joydnoah]

I hate the idea that some OP fans have that Roger laught was from desperation or something similar because the chapter clearly shows a laugh of joy, and I think Oda has spent a lot of time showing Roger as someone Joyful, so I hate people thinking that the story of Joyboy was so sad that the only thing Roger could do is laugh, it goes against what Oda wants from his story

[@galaga16]

I finally caught up I watched every video in order on this channel.

[@h8erofhypocracy711]

I think that the Harley text are referring to the Eddas that are poems that could be considering a "Bible" of Norse mythology. These poems is where we have the majority of our knowledge of Norse mythology from. Oda just straight up gave it a different name. In the viking age, Runes were used as the written representation of the language. But with the introduction of Christianity and the latin language, this old language was lost in time. Now, the Eddas that were written some 100 years after the end of the Viking age were not exactly written in runes, but in an old form of Norse closely connected to the runes in appearance. This would explain why the giants don't know how to interpret Harley because something got introduced which changed everything. Now tie that together with Ragnarok (also mentioned in the Eddas), then it aligns perfectly with the destruction of the world, as foretold by Sharly.

[@h8erofhypocracy711]

Guess this was pretty spot on 😁especially regarding the Ragnarok part

[@maxjohnson5126]

Just went farther into the video and you had that idea. Imma just let you cook bro. Keep doing what your doing you got awesome ideas 💯💯💯🔥✌️

[@MichaelWhite-z9v]

1:29 you should make a compilation for all of the theorys

[@WashGooooooood]

42:28 Loki gonna get saved by Colin’s dad, holy knights gonna back off because they know Roger’s crew don’t mess around, og 3 gonna pull up after with the keys, Loki and luffy gonna duke it out, then link up 👍

[@ideenlos9242]

I first had this idea many many years ago when I thought Luffy had a special Paramecia or a Logia and his awakening would effect the world around him but with his new Powers I still stand by it. The One Piece is a massive Bouncy Castle and you need someone to awaken the Nika fruit to turn it into Rubber for the ultimate Party

[@thewillofdreams6921]

Edmund Halley also believed in Hollow Earth Theory, that the earth had multiple revolving rings that caused gravity n magnetic disturbances, its symbol is a series of concentric circles just like imu's eyes?

[@ich-bin-niemand5287]

Nice video. Trank you very much. Your last words hits hard. Is anyone still listening? Yes! Its me ❤

[@twintalk2943]

Every time you say “let’s just assume…” I completely check out

[@ShauryaSinha-u3v]

Luffy will probably have to get a power up maybe being taught by some of Joyboy's friends or companions and that is how he will prepare for the final battle in which he fights Imu

[@ColePalmertheFrostMonarch]

His hybrid form

[@davidbrown-chavez1187]

The myth of Sun God Nika centers on two original powers: Blue Nika (Punishing): Tears punish those who cause the user pain, turning into blood and bringing death. This Nika is usually kind but rarely cries due to unwavering faith in others. Red Nika (Healing): Tears heal and bring prosperity, crystallizing into blessings. This Nika is often morally ambiguous, rarely crying to avoid being exploited. A synthetic devil fruit was created by Joy Boy and his allies to combine these powers into one, leading to the purple Hito Hito no Mi: Model Nika. Purple symbolizes the unity of red and blue, and its user connects others to Joy Boy’s vision, ending the cycle of duality to create a new era of freedom and unity. Luffy’s fruit embodies this synthesis, showing that Joy Boy’s strength came from collaboration and inspiring others, not just raw power. This new fruit ties the past to the present and redefines what it means to be a Sun God.

[@MrTheTampus]

King Harald is an interesting parallel to the “last” danish Viking King called Harald Blåtand (Bluetooth) who made all the brutal Vikings become Christian and by that civilizing them. Great content! Cheers from the native Dane 😊

[@Serovious]

0:17 no there wasnt many nikas but many interpretations of nika

[@Datduuudeee]

He makes a lot of massive conclusions and frequently gets blatant story facts wrong haha

[@Serovious]

@@Datduuudeee not to be that guy but yeah a lot of his videos now have wrong info in them tbh

[@Datduuudeee]

@Serovious nah man I agree. It's weird, not sure what happened

[@danielhanlon8438]

@@Serovious not now. It's always been that way

[@Serovious]

@@danielhanlon8438 yes its more often now specifically, ive watched this guy for years g

[@anonymous_a]

Podcast you started? What happened to Blue Banana Podcast?

[@MrReganomics1]

6:02 I think the reason Joy Boy ultimately appears is always to flood the world, the reasoning just changes. The flooding is inevitable, he is the harbinger of the end of the known world at those times,and apparently this time as well...

[@NIHALSALOKHE]

If you search on google about loki of norse mythology it will tell he is a son of a gaint and a goddess(who could probably be a lunarian as they were considered gods) as we have seen oda take references from mythologies before like from hindu mythology (hanuman) and google also says he has a son who is also a wolf and it is also given that he is considered a trickster god, known for being neither fully good nor evil since his main aim was always to create chaos and as we have seen before they can have hybrid of a human and giant it can possibly be that loki is the son of a lunarian and a gaint as mentioned in norse mythology

[@AbhinavTiwari-j8k]

My theory First theory There were two wars First war Nikka was protagonist and first Sun God he lost to Jormungander and thus red line was formed which is in fact dead body of the snake if you look closely it do resembles a snake eating its own tale Second war Joyboy second sun god and then he lost to Imu third war will be between Luffy and Imu + Jormungander (reawakened) Second theory Loki is Good and King Jarul was evil (my prediction he used to sell Elbaf's children for research of World government) cause Luffy is a guy who can predict who is good or who is bad just sensing them and if luffy says he is good then he is good and I think Elbaff will be of 3 parts first part luffy vs Loki, second part Luffy vs Shanks and third part Luffy vs Holy Knights

[@getchucked7401]

No discussion of the new Nika silhouette with a shield with a very familiar design and the strange way they are holding the sword, which is reminiscent of the giant sword of Elbaph? All the clouds in the background plus the sword and shield are clearly hints at something.

[@SleepySpaceMiles]

I think that Loki’s father was suffering as his son was known as a demon so Loki may have wanted to put him out of his misery to bring him peace instead of Loki being framed it just makes sense to me.

[@graphicsaw2657]

I'd say same nika personality, but viewed as destroyer or liberator depending which side of the war the author is on... There is a reason Luffy doesn't want to be viewed as a hero

[@YTuzns]

1:00 damn didn’t know O’Hara was like that… *nice*

[@soul8648]

you know what's funny about the design of the ancient kingdom? To me, it seems more of a castle and a Colosseum on the right side of the castle. So this kingdom could be a Colosseum for people to actually fight for the ruler. And what better way for Nika to be there and fight the giants or these types of people to do so. That's my theory at least if you're looking at the image of the ancient kingdom

[@RukgKatie]

Ohara I haven't subbed but I've been watching ur vids for a long time and ur theories are amazing so u have earned urself a new sub

[@KlayOfAllThingz]

33:55 This is precisely why Loki killed his father, it was prophesied that he will so that means it was his dads destiny to him too , he probably said the same thing to his dad and just wants to live out his destiny as prophesied. which isn't surprising considering how shunned he is by giants.

[@Gravedigger432]

I think of Loki like Loki in the story of Viking mythology. He is painted as the bad guy who tears down Asgard by triggering Ragnarok. But was he the bad guy? Odin in mythology was actively corrupt. He manipulated fates to benefit his own and Loki brought it to an end.

[@ToneHeight]

Have they stopped the subbed episodes of the show? I keep checking on Sundays and it’s recaps from season one fishman saga.

[@danilo_z]

Really appreciate the work, but 8 unskippable ads in 24 minutes I’ve watched so far is WILD of KZbin

[@an0mndr]

37:52 what if loki has some sort of wrath or karma power type fruit. He can somehow use negative events and bad karma as power of his own or against specific people. Idk why but kinda reminded me of gryla from red one.

[@TavianDH]

A brief look on Wikipedia led me to the "Harley Lyrics" - a collection of poems from the 14th century. I dont think that these are a DIRECT connection to the "Harley" Oda is using however my brief investigation did bring a few things to my attention. 1) There are 3 distinct authors. This could mirror the "Eras" of the one piece world 2) There is an underlying narrative of "oppositional thematics" Again this probably isnt relevant but its interesting

[@mmgraphics9799]

listening to you talking about luffy and his nika form, i really wonder what happens when nika doesen`t laugh anymore. Like in someone dies while luffy is in gear 5 - does luffy just drop out of gear 5 or will there be kind of a snap where we see luffy in some kind of dark nika state where he eventually falls into a deep state of rage and destruction

[@nkululekoduda4217]

I think Loki probably learned his philosophy from hajrudin. His older brother but then twisted due to some trauma. Hajrudin was trained as a warrior of elbaph.

[@ItzCeepy]

Howndoes bro edit this and upload it in 1 day Ur grinding is crazy u a real one Ohara just don't get a buster call on Ur channel 😂

[@juanmiguelsebastian1477]

29:09 those 'ribbons' look a lot like gleipnir a binding as thin as a ribbon that bound fenrir

[@Omaiburam]

Loki is one of the only characters that Luffy actually mentioned by his real name .

[@reigoj8228]

I have previously found a lot of different finnish mythos stories being potential inspirations for different parts of the story and here I once again can draw one story: The tale of Perkele. In modern days perkele is basically satan of finnish mythos. How ever, perkele is not evil. He is THE god of destruction, the one to end the world, ruling from the void. However, his goal is never to destroy the world, but to gain freedom from the void. Now, as god of destruction, Perkele is pretty much viewed as the devil but his goals are not what he causes. Destruction is unintentional consequence from his power. While Ukko, the grandfather of skies and god of skies, controls lighting and thunder, Perkele controls wind and storm. Which of the two are the destructive force? Technically both because one can't exist without another. The same is with the very concept of freedom. Anarchy is total freedom yet it is also chaos. Ultimately, it is just duality.

[@kangev8662]

OHH what if the 800 years until Joyboy returns is tied to Harleys comet, because it takes 800 years until it returns to the One Piece planet? Joyboy retuns physically

[@Mr.Chazama]

Gunkos powers was first showcased in Demon Slayer by Yahaba

[@alexisoneil7179]

Elbaph is currently set up to mirror Thriller Bark and i can absolutely see Loki being a direct parallel of Kuma. Having the holy knights be long dead would make so much sense

[@Maxfc2]

hey ohara i got a theory about blackbeard remember when he ate his first fruit which was the yame yame no mi (darkness fruit) his beard started growing and then at marineford when he got whitebeards fruit the tremor tremor fruit his beard split into two and right now his beard split into three. doesnt this mean he ate a third fruit already and i think oda foreshadowed us with blackbeards beards so i highly suggest you make a video about this it actually makes sense because if you replay when we first met him bro barely had a beard and then when he ate the yame yame no mi we first seen him fighting with ace and saw his beard grow and after marineford when he got the tremor tremor fruit his beard split two and now his beard is split to three oda is foreshadowing us at this point crazy.

[@juliganoid]

So yeah there’s a coralation between Odin and Loki but also he’s missing that Odin in Norse mythology Odin is lokis father also Loki has a brother Thor god of lightning also jorul doesn’t seem that trustworthy

[@Ragemode386]

Yo Ohara listens and plz hear me out or mention me on this ok but since odah said that a straw hat will die before the end of OP what if luffy releases Loki and takes him aboard and Loki betrayes them and in doing so kills Ussop? I think it’s a great theory and would love for you to mention it

[@getchucked7401]

I wonder if Loki's mom died in some type of honorable combat, but maybe Harold responded poorly to it and that triggered his drive to push for pacifism. Loki could be trying to honor his warrior mom, and that led to a philosophy conflict with Harold.

[@eianloh8022]

I do not personally think two nikas existed, because the five elders might have already memtioned before

[@KlayOfAllThingz]

Yooooo! 3:20 Notice how this Nika has a sword and shield and is similar but still quite different from the Nika silhouette we were introduced to in Skypeia with the sword and spear. This Nika definitely has a more sinister aura . This brings me to Loki 10:17 what if there literally are two sun god fruits that each carry the will of the different personas of Nika or something, i know its a stretch but i can't help but feel like there's some relevance in the words of the giants not sure whether Nika is god of laughter or god of liberation or god of destruction etc what if Loki's sun god is a different persona?

[@radaro.9682]

Ask the French bourgeois if the Revolution was freeing or destructive. Now pose that question to the same time period labour class. Doesn't have to be different fruits to be both.

[@jodypschaeffer]

I'm guessing Loki's dad was being mind controlled by the World Government and begged him for death.

[@cristopherarana-r2z]

you are the goat ohara

[@NIHALSALOKHE]

Jarl is a rank in norse mythology which is the rank below the king it could ne possible that the name jarul os taken from jarl as he is the eldest on elbhaf

[@Schlaisn]

Damn the quality of the video is so good. Last time i watched your channel was a while ago .. :D

[@maartenvanrossen6629]

wild take: i think jarul killed harold and framed loki using the giants trust they obviously have in him. notice the similiarities between harolds sword shown in the only panel we have and the sword in jaruls helmet? seems to me like typical oda foreshadowing to basically tell us harold and jarul were fighting in only one panel. of course it could be that loki picked up the sword and used it to fight jarul. but that raises the question, why wouldnt he use the same weapon he used to kill harold, and if he didnt use a weapon that time, why use one to fight harold? i highly doubt oda isnt creative enough to design a different sword and i wouldnt know what the purpose of showing harolds sword is otherwise.

[@adamb.l.9853]

@@maartenvanrossen6629 damn bro got a point

[@olorunnimbetemisola7491]

what about if loki would join the strawhats the same way oden joined whitebeard?

[@kirbyleavell7271]

I had a theory that rocs ate the Nika fruit at god valley or already had it, but it got shot down cuz kaido didn’t mention it. In retrospect that could probably be explained

[@Datduuudeee]

There are not a bunch of nikas. There is 1. Fruits are interpretations by different people

[@rajveershinde7968]

As reference to norse mythology we all had been expecting loki's father to be odin. But now manu bringing up the possibility of mentor to loki, maybe he is odin and killed by harold.

[@youdontcarewho1am]

bandages(weapon?) Gunko uses looks very similar to what Imu used against Cobra, and visually reminds me a little of Moria too

[@radaro.9682]

So Luffy is a destoryer to the outside world. It's possible Loki just knows the prophecies and just expects to need to remake the world through destruction like Luffy will. Those in power all fear an upset to the status quo. And see it as destructive to their way of life.

[@StevenForFoxSake]

Halley... Harley.. Harei.. Harre? Harry Potter! Knew it! Biggest crossover ever

[@tomparker-nx5oh]

I think we’re forgetting there is another person with the same smile and the same goal of destroying the world and covers his eyes name being doflamingo

[@Teach66s]

Moon god Nika...if there's a sun there's a moon

[@zero1188]

I believe there is two different versions of nika fruit. Destruction and freedom one luffy have

[@JayGaming-nl9db]

@@zero1188 same 👋

[@radaro.9682]

It can't be both? I'm positive was the world to overthrow capitalism there would be many, many people to consider that destruction of their way of life despite the severe lack of resources the wealthy hoarding everything cause. When the world changes some folks see it as good, some bad, some as destructive and some as liberating.

[@skkhammuansangngaihte4989]

​@@radaro.9682 as much as capitalism is hated , ,the positive side of it is also enjoyed by you ,almost everything we have today's came because of private company competing each other ,communism lack behind so much because there was no reason to go far and beyond

[@abhishekdambal4404]

it is both remember the fishman island prediction, luffy is supposed to be the destroyer of fishman island. that will be the case he will destroy the redline which will go down and destroy the fishman island bringing all the fishman to the rest of the world and the discrimination against them ends because the new fishman island will be on top of the sunken red line.

[@radaro.9682]

@abhishekdambal4404 Yeah, cause discrimination ends that simply. Just tell everyone to treat the formerly marginalized equally and they do, right?

[@thejeidi7228]

Any one notice that out of all the mother figures in the story aside from Sanji (overly affectionate emotional nurturing) and Ussop (As far as we know yes positively nurturing but wasn't in his life long enough most of the mothers never pulled their punches when it came to raising the boys. Tough Love and Hard Truths.

[@GibsonPorter-w2l]

37:44 you know what else is MASSIVE

[@yaboyae9222]

Lokis smile reminded me of blackbeards mouth when he has a full set of teeth idk if anyone else seen that but that’s what I see

[@samuelkafka3330]

I think Nika destroying the world in order to save makes sense. At least, it would outright explain why Marijoa is on the grand line. I mean, think about it from the perspective of Imu. You know that Nika always comes back and for him to stop you, he would have to destroy you and your kingdoms by flooding the world, so how do you prevent it? You build your kingdom above everyone else, so in order for Nika to stop you, he has to destroy literally everything else, so there really is no point in doing it. Which might be realisation that Joyboy came upon, hence his failure to bring about a change.

[@thelastyles]

It's a cycle similar to the matrix. Luffy and Neo are both the one that's meant to change things but at some point it starts over and you will have another "one" or nica to come again.

[@itsspoon0890]

35:00 lokis possible mindset is eerily similar to japanese WWII philosophy... either A) You win(or in lokis case be a strong warrior); B) Die fighting; or C) End your life to maintain honor(loki killing his father) Dont really have anything else just thought it was interesting lol

[@ojiogochukwu4666]

My theory is joy was either Imu’s subordinate or friend or even both, and imu gave joyboy the gomu gomu no mi or gave him the power of nika rather which was meant to be the god of destruction like these other legendary fruits but joyboy betrayed imu and zou knew about joyboys plan and imu used zou to get joyboy hence why zou was punished. And Now the will of joyboy passed in the nika fruit, being the power destined to stop imu that’s why they’ve been chasing it and it’s been evading them

[@Ghost11176]

I have a theory i’m cooking up, what if one piece doesn’t end at laugh tale? it seems to me we will have a war arc some time after laugh tale and then at the very end Luffy would have destroyed the world but he either will sit down in the throne of the kingdoms or will make a second throne to rule with Vivi.

[@animalshortfacts7]

11:28 it is like the avatar cycle but it is the nika cycle

[@Toni-lo9ms]

Oh, another theory of mine. Shanks stole the "Gommu Gommu No Mi" from the Elbaph royal family.

[@MaZ_and_Beads]

Nope. Shank stole this DF from Marines.

[@Toni-lo9ms]

@MaZ_and_Beads You assume it was stolen only once. Oda is rarely so straightforward. We only know it ended up in the marine's possession eventually and Shanks took it from them. That doesn't mean it didn't change hands a few times before then. There could be other additional history between Shanks & Loki (or trickery by "Frank" pretending to be Shanks) of course but I think a wild series of seemingly random events getting the fruit to Luffy is exactly Oda's style. Edit: and remember, Shanks wasn't always as strong as he is now.

[@_oNixx]

So from this chapter we learned that there 2 different types of silhouettes of nika 1 when he is referred as the liberator and 2nd as the destroyer what if there r 2 different types of nika fruits 1 that luffy has the liberatior and loki having the destroyer version whitch also explains why lokis devil fruit is labeled as “legendary” whtich only luffy fruit has been labeled thus far

[@RobertR3843]

I think the type of person that the Nika fruit is attracted to will always be of similar nature, however different people will view each Nika differently. Some will see a destroyer, some a liberator and I'm sure they will all be true to whoever has each point of view. For example everywhere Luffy goes he seems to do both(Destroys and liberates). And if he were to destroy marijoise, then certainly the celestial dragons would see him as a destroyer.

[@matthewbedlion4322]

Morevideos on Rox! One of the most fascinating characters that hasnt been fully revealed yet

[@nekoneko-jd]

Has anyone noticed that the bandage looks like the "To be continued" arrow

[@brandondiotte2104]

So before this chapter I was leaning towards the idea that Loki killed King Harald to liberate Elbaph from the corruption of the World Government which had been slowly starting to take hold. Now I am starting to believe that Loki killed King Harald to liberate Elbaph from his fathers own oppressive decrees. I think that after King Harald heard the prophesy about one of his own sons killing him he decreed that no one in Elbaph was permitted to scold, discipline, or in anyway speak ill of them in the hopes a lack of conflict with his sons could alter the future. Once Loki found out about this, most likely overhearing a bunch of drunken giants during a party, he started acting up to see how far he could take it and over the decades he likely realized how oppressive these decrees were and how none of Elbaphs citizens were permitted to live freely or express themselves as they wanted to. So by killing his father and then setting off to sea Loki actually liberated Elbaph.

[@Choppydplug]

Bro is not beerus 😭🙏