Nike Pegasus 40 after 300 miles - Why you still need a “boring” daily trainer

[@osgabriel20]

My dad always wore Air Zoom Pegasus since 1984, I wore Pegasus since the Peg 34. I had been sick for a year recently in remission so I didn’t try the 39th edition, just ordered a black & white peg 40, I have stories with peg 38 great memories, I hiked on light trail, traveled with it, even attended events and conventions. You cannot go wrong with this shoe, it ticks many boxes by being an All-around-daily trainer”, great review, simple and informative. Thank you!🙏🏻

[@SagasuRunning]

I agree. I love running in the Pegasus… but it’s also my go to casual shoe and travel shoe. It just works nearly anywhere. Thank for the supportive words! 🤙🏻

[@SagasuRunning]

@@toby9999 Those early Pegs were bombproof (for the time). A classic for sure.

[@toby9999]

Im showing my age, but I remember the 1983/4 model. It was my first serious running shoe. Can't remember which year exactly but I loved that shoe. Ran more than 2000km in mine. Seemed bullet proof.

[@justalarvitar3411]

I love this review! As a runner with 5 months of running experience, I really enjoy running in this shoe! 250 miles in the shoe as of today, and I’ve done many many runs from my longest and most gruelling 21 mile run in 27 degree heat and 93% humidity, to a easy evening 8 mile run, the shoe has been secure and responsive. No heel slippage issue unlike my invincible 3s, very consistent and surprisingly comfortable ride! It got significantly more comfortable the more miles I put on it, especially after the 100 mile mark. I like this shoe at an easy to moderate effort, but much less so at threshold effort. (For some reference I usually run at an average pace at 5:35/km on my median end of moderate runs) 😊

[@SagasuRunning]

The Peg40 is a shoe that can do it all. You have proved that here as well. It truly is a great one! Enjoy them. 🤙🏻

[@justalarvitar3411]

@@SagasuRunning update: just a hair under 400 miles I love this daily trainer so much, really strengthened my previously weak ankles and achilles tendon ! It’s literally been my workhorse (no pun intended) and helped me run even a sub 2h half marathon at my zone 3 heart rate for 90% of the run It’s slowly losing the responsiveness and cushioning by about 20-25% but well seems like it can last me up to 700 miles maybe So far I’ve done two 20 miler runs in them since my last review and it’s been an absolute pleasure running in these, only felt a mild numbness in my forefoot beyond that 19 mile mark but the shoe still encouraged me to cruise and maintain my pace so hey, that’s still pretty good 👍 Looking forward to more runs in this versatile and reliable daily trainer !😊

[@SagasuRunning]

Really great to read this. I’m happy they are working so well for you. When they work… they definitely work well! 🤙🏻

[@madfemurfast]

IMO daily trainers should not be plated. Just me. Another great film 👍

[@SagasuRunning]

You know I agree! Thank you for the support. 🤙🏻

[@isacv2182]

Nice and informative take. A firmer yet still cushion sole for some heavy-sets is the correct cushioning needed. My Peg 40 are necessity in my running workouts.

[@SagasuRunning]

The Peg40 is “just enough” shoe while maintaining a fine balance between cushion and flexibility.

[@shesagift1]

“Not every shoe needs to be exciting.” YES!! So in favor of “boring” shoes for most runs to maintain the foundation you need to maximize the benefit of a plated shoe!

[@SagasuRunning]

So much yes here! 💪🏻

[@wmgonzalbo]

I just bought a Pegasus 40 Ekiden edition, just because I fell in love with the colors and style. 😄 Though good points on why such "boring" work horse shoes are needed for training. Anyway this channel dont just do shoe reviews, detailed comparisons, you also share running wisdom and shoe design/manufacturing insights. Such an awesome channel to geek out on running shoes. More power! 🤘

[@SagasuRunning]

The Peg40 Ekiden was a miss for me, as was all the 2023 Nike Ekiden pack. I really loved the Peg38 and 39 Ekiden color ways... you definitely got a bright shoe! Thank you for the kind words on the channel. I appreciate the support! 🤙🏻

[@atlaswang1959]

Great video!! Then I bought 1 pegasus 40 recently, and it only cost 1500NTD. My first impression about the shoe is firm ride, and reasonable cusion. Nice looking is also a great pros of pegasus. Considering the OOTD & easy run requirement, I will buy more pegasus for my wife & kids.

[@SagasuRunning]

1500ntd! That is a great deal. Was that in Taipei? It’s a great shoe for pretty much anything. Enjoy them!

[@puffdoobies]

Another great video. I run mainly in Nikes, so your insights on running shoes has helped me tremendously on building a solid rotation and viewing running shoes in a whole new perspective. I bought into the plated daily craze a while back, but have strayed away from it due to leg injuries. Since then, I've been noticing the benefits of doing the bulk of my miles in Pegs, and recently my Invincible 3s for those slightly fatigued leg days (we run a lot in the military). Want a pair of these 40s just for that upper, but got 2 (pretty much new) pairs of 39s during clearance. Keep up the great content, the running community needs more folks like you.

[@SagasuRunning]

I’m happy to read this. Something I’m really beginning to realize is that it’s not about the shoe being minimal or low stack, but it’s more about how easy it flexes and how they promotes building foot strength. Even the Invincible 3, with all it’s foam, has a type of flex to it and there is a benefit there. I knew all of this prior… but it’s really hitting me recently as to how important it really is. Thank you for the support and kind words. 🙌🏻

[@lisimahus]

I used the Pegasus 40 for my easy training. At 310 miles (500km) I had to retire them because my feet were hurting badly. After 250 miles it has provided no sufficient protection in the forefoot anymore, although in the heel there was still plenty of support. The outer sole looks like new, very little wear. So for me 300 miles is the maximum I would credit the Pegasus 40 longevity wise. Maybe others can run more miles in them, but for me it is the maximum. I weigh 80 kg and wear size 10 US, this may play a role too.

[@SagasuRunning]

300mi (500k) is a good run for this shoe. It is also good you replaced them when they started to give you problems. Some people would have tried to get more out of them. 👍🏻

[@kylestephens9593]

Some shoetubers don't bother to even scrape the mud off the outsoles, I applaud Sagasu for presenting his shoes in such clean condition, even if he doesn't do it for the video.

[@SagasuRunning]

Ha. I do wash my shoes after every run. Given how wet and humid it is here in Taipei… it don’t have much choice. It’s the only way they don’t self destruct and dry for me. I do think the pegs in this video are the “most dirty” I’ve ever featured on this channel… but they also have the most miles on them too.

[@akshaytayade8215]

Great video! I just ordered the Pegasus 40 for $80 converted (I live in India). Excited!

[@SagasuRunning]

Great deal on a great shoe! Enjoy them. 🤙🏻

[@Dramatello]

Got mine yesterday too for 90$. Currently 500+ KM with my Peg 39... can't wait for the new ones to arrive :)

[@SagasuRunning]

@Dramatello wow, a needed upgrade. Enjoy them! 🤙🏻

[@heikaltaki]

My boring daily is still Vomero 16. Stiffer compared to the squishiest ZoomX in the flagship models but i equate the planting feeling to the snappiness of a low to the ground traditional racer. Just stubborn appearance of the old school flat in race day, boring daily driver will remain relevant despite the innovation of a super daily driver. Either way, there’s going to be something for everyone. A win for all runner!!!

[@SagasuRunning]

Agree. Options are good for runners. I just with marketing departments would stop milking tech for tech’s sake. Also the Vomero 16 is a classic Nike ride. Wasn’t my thing when I tried it years ago… but I’m looking forward to the changes in the Vomero 17!

[@OdanUrr87]

I passed on the 40 because I felt it was a minor upgrade compared to the upgrade from the 38 to the 39. I'd been using the 39 as my daily trainer, but they didn't quite fit the bill when I was doing recovery work or very easy runs, where I'd actually notice the forefoot air zoom unit (yup, I'm slow). So I added the Triumph 20 for those and my long runs and I'm using the 39 for some of my faster workouts. I may have to upgrade to a new pair next year so I'll see what the 41 offers or maybe switch to a speedy daily trainer to complement the Triumph.

[@SagasuRunning]

The Peg41 will be full ReactX and still with two airbags, one in the forefoot and one in the heel. It should be softer and bouncier, which honestly has me a little worried. We shall see! I prefer a firmer more flexible shoe for recovery ones generally… but even the Peg isn’t always the best. I liked the Vomero 17 a lot after NYC… but I wouldn’t recommend it as a recovery shoe. I didn’t follow the triumph 20 very much but I know many loved it for how plush and comfortable it was.

[@OdanUrr87]

A softer Peg? Not sure I like the sound of that. Won't that make the forefoot airbag even more prominent? The T20 is pretty comfortable, though I use a (firmer) custom orthotic. The only firmer shoe I was considering to possibly replace the Peg is the Adizero SL, though opinions seem to be divided on how good of a shoe it is. @@SagasuRunning

[@SagasuRunning]

@@OdanUrr87 Ya, that is my worry. The only ReactX experience I have (we all have) is in the Infinity RN 4, which was a complete mess. Nike seems to be completely replacing React foam with ReactX foam across their entire line, road and trial, for 2024. We shall see. 🤞🏻 I’m a big fan of the Adizero SL… it’s a great shoe. I’m hope they do update it in 2024 and that the Supernova Rise isn’t replacing it… because I have zero interest in that shoe at the moment. If we do see a 2024 Adizero SL I’ll definitely be covering it on the channel.

[@ZaahirJappie]

Lovely video!! I needed to hear this, bcos I bought an Adizero SL recently and realized that I needed to work harder, which is good. My previous shoe was a NB 1080. Even though similar to the SL, it pampered me more.

[@SagasuRunning]

Ya l, having a shoe like the Peg or SL definitely makes you (and your foot) work harder… which is the point of a trainer anyway. It’s good to mix shoes and rotate a few… but having a shoe that makes you work isn’t a bad thing at all.

[@Panos_79]

I tried the Pegasus for the first time with the 39th version and was so disappointed, the midsole felt completely dead to me, both at easy and at moderate paces (and I don't mind firmer midsoles/boring shoes, at the time I'm absolutely loving the saucony ride 15). I also felt the forward air unit below my foot in an uncomfortable way, and I gave up on the shoe after 80km (something I almost never do). In my opinion, zoom air units are an antiquated technology, but they are so much a part of Nike's dna that it is very difficult to just take them out. Asics had the same problem with gel but in the last Nimbus version they seem to have found a way to make the transition, with better foams and the gel being there in name, but not contributing much to the ride. I'm happy for everyone that the shoe works for, if it's still going on after 40 years they must be doing something right, but it sure seems to be in need of some innovation. As always, very interesting video, I love these "deeper dives" in running shoes.

[@SagasuRunning]

I agree… zoom air units are very dated. They can work well but there are honestly better options. However, given how iconic “air” is to Nike and the Pegasus… I don’t know what it will take for them to remove it. They did remove it from the Vomero…so there is hope… but I’m not going to hold my breath for not. We should see a sizable update to the Peg next year… which should give us a hint of where they are headed. You are right, Asics Gel is similar and they have phased it out or modernized it fully. Honestly, why I love the Peg so much is about toe geometry, foam and simplicity/affordability. It’s hard to find that in 2023.

[@theghostofpcs2391]

Sounds like the exact experience I had with the peg 38. I do also have the ride 15 (which gave me hell breaking in), but that shoe is light and fast, just way better as a 'boring' option.

[@tomverdich184]

Agree with this. I also find the air units quite intrusive. I noticed them most on the Vomero 16 where I couldn't run in it for longer than 45min or so before my feet went numb. If Nike ditches the air units on the 41 I'll definitely give it a shot.

[@sbarbatos7958]

Same of me, if you try zoom x , and run on a Pegasus 40 you will feel so uncomfortable and firm. After 15km your feet are destroyed .

[@SagasuRunning]

Doesn’t that tell you something though? Maybe running only in ZoomX isn’t the best as your feet and legs are building little run durability. Mixing it up and alternating between firm and soft is important. I’m going to cover this in my next video.

[@Ziggymundus]

Great vid! I need to try Peg40 , 39 were to tight for my toes. But the under-tongue lock was great if not the best (effective but still comfortable). Totally agree in "we still need a boring daily trainer" and currentlly im using Rebels v3 which are...not boring but still soft and non-plated. Anything up to 10k, slow or fast, theyre great (only cons are the sole which is not safe on wet asphalt and slippery insole that makes me bend/roll my toes). Also great for sockless use. Yeah, I feel i waana try Peg40 asap.

[@SagasuRunning]

The Peg40 upper is more accommodating… it should solve the issues the Peg39 gave you. I have liked the Rebel v1/2 in the past… looks like the v4 will be a big change though… I’ll will try to cover that shoe on the channel though. I’ll also be covering more “boring” shoes this year as well. Stay tuned. 🤙🏻

[@hommefield9612]

Would be interesting to see the in a video of how you wash your shoes to keep them clean. After 300 miles, they still look new!

[@SagasuRunning]

It’s nothing special… they just come into the shower with me after every run. I use a simple soap (Dr. Bronner’s Castile soap) and a sponge to clean… then I dry them in front of a fan for a few hours. That’s really all I do.

[@pao-u5l]

Awesome review, I’m going to buy mine right now 💯

[@SagasuRunning]

Thank you. The Pegasus 40 is a special shoe! 🤙🏻

[@luizbertoncini]

I really like the pegasus for faster efforts, the air zoom really shines below 5:00min/km with my weight

[@SagasuRunning]

It's not my first choice for faster stuff, but it's definitely very capable. The Zoom Air units really shine when you land on them correctly.

[@tonyvu9459]

I think you’re onto something here. The past 4 months I’ve been training majority in super trainers (SC Trainer v1 & Superblast). I picked up a pair of NB 880v12 and absolutely hated it on my first run. It felt rough, not enough cushion, and not responsive at all. Then I realized… actually it was my form that was sloppy. Super trainers are more fun and make running easier, I 100% thst runners would benefit greatly from using a boring daily trainer on easy/base training days to get the necessary feedback on their running form.

[@SagasuRunning]

I’m actually really enjoying alternating between the Superblast and the Pegasus. Both shoes are so far apart than running between them really brings out what is great in both!

[@MarkChan311]

Love your content 🙂A couple questions: 1) At 8:43, you mention building foot strength which I agree with. Would the Nike Invincibles still accomplish this goal or is the benefit muted because there's too much foam? I assume this is why you mention in your other video that the Streakfly was great for this goal. 2) What are some alternatives to the Streakfly that are lightweight, non-plated and can help build foot strength? Mach 5, Adizero Adios? Thanks!

[@SagasuRunning]

Well… TBH, the Invincible 3 is too much foam. BUT… it’s surprising flexible given this size so you do get some foot strength in them. Say compared to something like the Asics Nimbus which so comparably stiffer and has less give. ZoomX is a magic foam in many ways. Plus in a softer shoe your joints need stiffen in order to support themselves in the softer/less table shoe so you do build some leg stiffness in them too. BUT… if foot and leg strength is your goal the Invincible 3 is not the shoe. The Pegasus 40 and Streakfly are much better. The Adios 8 is a good option, that is much more durable than the Streakfly (see my comparison video on the two) but the Adios 8 does have the energy torsion system which doesn’t make the shoe quite as free flexing as a Streakfly, though it is very good still. The New Balance Rebel series is another one to look at for all of this. The Mach 5 is a little bit more on the cushioned side, but you do get some decent foot flex. The new Cielo Road might be another one to check out if you like Hoka. Thank you for the support and kind words. I’m glad my content is useful! 🤙🏻

[@miocasano1005]

ahhh just the video i needed to see. im fairly new to running and unfortunately i kinda hurt my left hip ahead of my first marathon. not sure if its the volume or the plated shoes but i think most likely a combination of both. feel like my weaker side is not strong enough to handle the so called pop of plated shoes at higher frequency and longer distances if that makes sense... i only started running in April and, like you, also came from cycling. anyway have returned to using my pegs for the time being but the i have the trail 4 version which i personally think are outstanding in terms of comfort. admittedly i only have 3 pairs (invincible 3, xtep 160x 3.0). at my current state think i may end up using the pegs instead of plated shoes for my upcoming marathon which is only 10 days away. sadly i may also have to abandon my miniscule goal of hitting a sub-4 all the best, appreciate your brilliant and thoughtful content

[@SagasuRunning]

One of the things running requires, especially compared to cycling, is durability. Running is very high impact and it takes time for your body to build up over time. Too much too soon is always a problem in running. Hip pain is likely from that and a high stack plated shoe. If you want to learn more check out my “shoes are tool” video where I talk about this sort of stuff in detail. As for your marathon… I’d maybe see if you can make the Invincible 3 work for it. You’ll appreciate the extra foam (over the peg) in the later half of the race… Good luck out there! Be safe.

[@moyolenovo3914]

Really like my Peg 39 from the first second. After struggling 50 k in firm bricks NB More v3 which cause a lot of pain to my knees I felt in love with Peg 39. They are ideal shoes for me for all of my runs. Short, long, fast, slow and intervals. In very firs run in them I broke my 10 k record. I immediately bought Pegasus trail. I love them even better then NB Rebel v3 which are great shoes as well but a little less suitable for long runs I guess. I am going to buy peg 40 at least a pair soon.

[@SagasuRunning]

The NB Rebel V3 was the last NB I payed any attention too, I found it paired to the Streakfly more than the Peg. But ya, the Peg can really do everything. 👍🏻

[@ImEmpTy295]

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[@theghostofpcs2391]

Interesting, for me it was the other way around, but with the peg 38/37 shield and the More v4. Even though I did like the 37 shield, I hated the 38 right from the start. And I used to run in the cheap Downshifter 6 for a very long time, so the pegasus was pretty plush compared to that. I found the 38 way too harsh under the forefoot, and the ride 'flat'. A lot of Nike shoes give me cramps in my right foot, and my left foot starts to go numb after about 5K. I gave both pairs of pegs to my mother, and after hoarding shoes looking for the right ones, I totally fell in love with the More v4, so now I have 2 pairs as my daily trainer.

[@SagasuRunning]

The 38 was the worst one out of recent models, for sure. We all need to find “our shoe”, it takes alot of trial and error and bough. Sounds like you successfully did that though!

[@Ben-yw8be]

Yeah I am not a huge fan of plated shoes as a daily trainer. I use plated shoes more often when I am on close to a race just to let my body get adjusted to it. I’m so glad Asics has a non-plated “supertrainer” such as the Superblast. Its high stack and fun, bouncy ride. But I still run in a “white bread” shoe such as the Peg 39 to really strengthen my feet and concentrate on my stride. Yea, React is boring but it makes you work a little harder which is builds strength. It is also a stable foam which is a plus.

[@SagasuRunning]

So much yes here… also I love the white bread term… 🍞… it fits so well. 🤙🏻

[@kuriosites]

I am wary about only using plated shoes because I wonder if it will make it so the small muscles of the feet atrophy. I had this problem when I switched from cycling to running because cycling shoes are very stiff. Right now, I'm enjoying my Gel Nimbus. It's more cushioned than something like the Peg but I like the stability of the wide base. For me, it's just about finding a shoe that's comfortable and enjoyable to run in.

[@SagasuRunning]

I had the same issue when I switched from cycling too. Lucky for me I switch when there were still lower stack and more flexible shoes around, so I had alot of options to choose from and work on building foot strength.

[@JohnBirtchetSharpe]

Agree 100% with no real need for a carbon plated trainer. Now to be honest I have the speed 3 and the deviate nitro.. But my current go too shoes for all my training (foreverrun , cyclone2 & hyperion max) do not have carbon anywhere near them.

[@SagasuRunning]

Yes, yes. Nothing wrong with doing some training in plated shoes, especially race effort training and some long runs... but that is very different than doing ALL training in a plated shoe. Basic is best sometimes, especially in running.

[@starzgonzales4358]

I'm on the fence on the peg 40, are they good for daily walking? I have flat feet with micro tear on both lower Achilles.

[@SagasuRunning]

They may be a good option for walking. They are a firmer foam with a lower stack that will give stability and the 10mm drop will help to alleviate strain from your Achilles and calves. Since the Peg 41 is coming on in a ml the or two you should be able to find good deals one them. You might also want to look at the Nike Winflo as well. It’s a little firmer of a platform and a little wider overall on the outsole which will give even more support for walking.

[@rsii83]

I personally think it is one of the best daily trainers. It is a bread-butter shoe for me and is a must in the shoe rotation.

[@SagasuRunning]

Many other commenters have been calling it a “white bread” shoe 🍞 (which I love!)

[@BeIugaa]

Great review man! Can you recommend a daily trainer on par with pegasus that has a bit wider toebox and tight midfoot lockdown I got a high arch foot and tend to supinate a lot A recommendation would be helpful Keep it up man!

[@SagasuRunning]

II supinate a bit, have a high arch and am a forefoot striker. I find the Pegasus to be the best option out there. You should try the new Peg 41. The forefoot width is slight more generous as the upper has more give, but the midfoot and heel are identical to the peg 40. Thank you for the kind words on the content.

[@AndrewHillis-k9l]

Thanks for the video. Are these good breathable shoes. As we head into summer I m looking for something light and breathable. Thanks for your time

[@SagasuRunning]

These definitely are breathable. Perfect for hot summers. Thank you for watching.

[@Iryna-lc5fp]

Great review.

[@SagasuRunning]

Thank you. 🙏🏻

[@woodynlily]

Excelente! 👏🏼

[@SagasuRunning]

🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻

[@kent167]

In my experience (Epic React, React infinity, Peg 37) react foam feels dead after running for 400km even the outsole is completely fine. It trigger my calf pain.

[@SagasuRunning]

The only time I even have had problems with React foam is in very cold winter temps. It can get very brick like. Otherwise I have nonissue with it, though I’ve also never really had issue with Lunarlon, Cushlon or Phylon before it. It’s not the most dynamic foam out there, but it doesn’t have to be.

[@Ben-yw8be]

Yeah I have the Peg 39 in my rotation as my “white bread” shoe. 😂 It can do so many things but mainly I use it for casual wear or short runs.

[@SagasuRunning]

I love it. “White bread” shoes. 🍞 So good!

[@RaizinRun]

saw a pair, the last pair, in my local big mall, but didn't grab. I do not know why but I feel like going from my superblast to that will be too much of a drop in awesome feel. The exact same color way as the white like one. It did have an odd blemish on the back. I am hoping to hit up the running shoe shop I like to see if they have anything new in, as they have some ok deals sometimes as well.

[@SagasuRunning]

The beauty of Pegs is they are literally anywhere that seals Nike. Plus you can normally find a deal on them. The Peg is the anti-Superblast. It’s an extreme contrast… but it works and together they amplify one another.

[@RaizinRun]

@@SagasuRunning I was trying to find a shoe to wear to work, so that if I want to run on my lunch break I can. Maybe this is worth the buy to give me more of a challenging run. I was originally going to grab the Adidas SL trainer. I was debating to grab on before the last week of August as I have a trip and want a shoe to easily walk in.

[@SagasuRunning]

@@RaizinRun Both are good. I much prefer the flexibility of the Peg… but the SL gets the job done too. You can’t go wrong with either.

[@Ryan_Tinney]

Wonderful video.

[@SagasuRunning]

Thank you! 🤙🏻

[@mhe_golf1215]

Great review! How do you keep your shows impeccable and brand new though after so many miles?!

[@SagasuRunning]

I actually have a video on that as so many people have asked: How to Wash Running Shoes. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKPJkK2JqZl1jKs

[@scottmijin9463]

I’m late here and I 💯 agree with you, we’re getting too lazy and highly dependable on “super trainers” to do most of the leg work, no pun intended. I regularly switch between a plated and non plated trainers to actually train my leg muscles. On the other hand, it is fun running with these super trainers, makes it more exciting and enjoyable. At the end of the day, there’s no right or wrong, do what’s best for you. There’s no point for a brand spending millions on R&D without innovating midsole material right?

[@SagasuRunning]

Yup. My point it having a few shoes, with different tech, to rotate gives you the best of all worlds. You don’t need a ton of shoes. 2-4 is enough, but making sure one is a neutral and flexible daily trainer is a good idea.

[@PitoJulio]

Hi sir, for a forefoot runner with knee injury, would u recommend this Vomero 17 or Invincible 3 shoe for easy or long runs? Im new to Nike running shoe fyi. Thanks! 😊

[@SagasuRunning]

If the choice is only between those two… the Vomero 17. It’s more stable and easier to run in. The ZoomX in that shoe provides cushion without the stability issues present in the Invincible 3.

[@QronoZ713]

Been running in the pegasus consistently for 6 years, even tho I've had 40-50 pairs of running shoes.

[@SagasuRunning]

The Pegasus has had quite and evolution in that time (I have a long video about it all on this channel)… but even with the drastic changes the shoe has always worked well, though some better than others.

[@QronoZ713]

@@SagasuRunning It has evolved, but at the same time I really feel like it's the same line of shoes. I find the 36s to be the most versatile, I've done everything from 28s 200m to HM at 1:19 in the 36s. The 39s are more comfortable but don't feel great at any faster paces for me.

[@SagasuRunning]

@@QronoZ713 The Peg has definitely evolved. It’s still the most versatile shoe own.

[@darkknight17]

Sagasu, I really enjoyed your video. Liked and Subbed. What a gem! I learned so much and really appreciate it. I just purchased the Pegasus 40 based on your video. I am new to running, and trying to undo the damage done to my body from being sedentary due to my career. Do I need two different running shoes? e.g. Pegasus 30 for harder runs and Invincible Run 3 for gentle walking and gentle runs? I would really value your input. Thank you!

[@SagasuRunning]

I would recommend two pairs of shoes, yes. If you are new to running, worry less about what type on run for now… and more about just building a base. Rotating two shoes will give your feet different training stimulus and make sure you aren’t just repeating the same movements over and over, which could result in an injury. The Peg40 pairs nicely with the Invincible. You’ll get a firmer more traditional shoe and a max stack rolling shoe (see my latest video as to why) and they will work well together. Good luck on your running journey and I’m glad my content is useful for you! 🤙🏻

[@hommefield9612]

What would you consider a boring daily trainer for other brands: 880 for NB? Ride for Saucony? Adizero SL for Adidas? Cumulus for Asics?

[@SagasuRunning]

Yup. Those are all great shoes respective to their brands and the lines they fit in. I especially enjoy the Adidas Adizero SL and the Asics Cumulus. I do think the Pegasus is the most versatile of all of them from a surface type and run/workout type.

[@hommefield9612]

@@SagasuRunningDoes the Pegasus have a low to the ground feel in them when running?

[@SagasuRunning]

@hommefield9612 yes, very much. Especially for a running shoe in 2023. It’s by no means minimalist, but it’s low compared to almost any other current shoe out there

[@vivienrouge3429]

You just pertinently dissed all those KZbinrs running shoes critics judging a shoe before any real experience with them. 😅

[@SagasuRunning]

Not all of them. Plus the Peg is a workhorse. It doesn’t make any sense not to put hundreds of miles on them. To be fair, in the video…the white pair has 125mi on it and the black pair is at 220mi… but they will definitely get more miles on them.

[@BruceRunning]

May I ask what is it that you do to clean correctly your shoes without breaking them down?

[@SagasuRunning]

Honestly I just bring them into the shower with me after my run and wash them with a mild soap or a hand wash laundry detergent. That cleans any grime and sweat out of them. Then I place them in front of a fan to dry. Removing your sweat from the shoe and drying them with the fan are vital as that is what breaks down the materials. Even more so in a humid climate like where I live.

[@haryowijoyo5979]

​@@SagasuRunningmight sound a silly question, do u took the lace off before washing or just leave it? I lived in Indonesia, so definitely hot and humid. Thanks for the insight on pegs 40.

[@SagasuRunning]

I leave them in. I literally just wash them in the shower with me after a run.

[@haryowijoyo5979]

@@SagasuRunning thx for the quick reply. Ok so that's a really convenient way. I saw a white pegs 40 my size on sale yesterday at my local Nike store. Was a bit hesitant to purchase it cos not sure how to keep it nice and clean. I'll definitely gonna buy it now. Thanks a lot for the tips👍

[@BruceRunning]

@@haryowijoyo5979 just make sure to dry them with a fan, If you look at his shoes they look immaculate, trust the process.

[@thongsong7583]

I own the Nike react flyknit 3 and I find they are not good for my supination. Are the Pegasus any better for a supination neutral style runner?

[@SagasuRunning]

I supinate and have no issue running in Pegs. The upper is much better on the Peg40, compared to the Infinity 3, and had more structure on the lateral side. The midsole is narrower though, so if you have an extreme supination it could be an issue still.

[@3rdyellow]

How are you washing your shoe(s) to keep them clean? Thanks.

[@SagasuRunning]

My shoes always come into the shower with me after every run. I wash them with a simple soap (Dr. Bronner’s soap) and dry them in front of a fan (needed in the humid place I live). That’s really all I do.

[@3rdyellow]

Interesting. I thought you washed them in the washing machine. I wash my cheap shoes in the washer, but afraid to do them with the more costly ones. Any issues with smell, etc?

[@SagasuRunning]

@@3rdyellow I’d never put a shoe in a washing machine… I can’t imagine the noise alone. I’d not do it with expensive shoes at all, even on cold. Hand wash with a sponge and dry without the insoles in the shoe. I have no issues with smell… which is partly why I wash them in the shower after every run. I live in a very hot/humid climate and all the sweat and oils from your body are what destroy shoes and make them smell. Remove them as soon as possible from the shoe and all will be well.

[@3rdyellow]

Okay, just to clarify, you wear them to the shower, or do you take off and also remove insoles before washing in shower? Do the insoles get washed at all? Thanks.

[@SagasuRunning]

@@3rdyellow I take them off… bring them into the shower, wash them with soap and a sponge and remove the insoles for rinsing and drying. So yes, the insoles get washed too.

[@trader-traitor]

How is the tongue of your pegasus 40 shoes so high? Mine are barely sticking out..

[@SagasuRunning]

I’m not sure. I feel like the tongue is a little too short.

[@TeenTri_Life]

I think you should try the structure 25...

[@SagasuRunning]

I don’t need a structure shoe at all. In fact when I run a lot in a shoe with any structure elements, even mild ones like the older Infinity Runs (v1-3) or even the heel clips in the Nike Invincible series I start to have ankle issues. I actively avoid any proper structure or motion control shoe like the Nike Structure or Asics Kayano.

[@TeenTri_Life]

@@SagasuRunning Ya I can see that. I know some people aren't stability/structure people. For the most part, I'm not either I just like to wear one for a few runs a week. Even only wearing it once or twice a week it has seemed to stop my Achilles pain and helped my ankles recover. (there should be a name for this in running shoe rotations like Ankle/Achilles recovery)

[@SagasuRunning]

@@TeenTri_Life That is what Nike was always trying to provide with the Infinity Run series v1-3 (the new one is a bit different). A very mild stability shoe that any runner can benefit from. It always had the opposite affect on me though.

[@brianreiter5572]

That midfoot lockdown system is virtually the same as what was in the Streak 6 and 7.

[@SagasuRunning]

Yes! That is a very good thing too as both the Streak 6/7 had amazing lockdown. That engineered mesh upper on the later streaks was a work of art. Very similar to what was on the Vaporfly 4% as well. Speaking of which. I have a pair of a Vaporfly next% (version 1) from Nike by You with the engineered mesh upper from the 4%. It’s a very special shoe to me now.

[@brianreiter5572]

The original Vaporfly 4% which had an upper very similar to a Streak 7 but roomier was better than the Flyknit version 2 IMO.

[@SagasuRunning]

@brianreiter5572 Fully agree! I love old Nike Flyknit… but not on the 4% FK… it just didn’t work. Flyknit racers showed it could work though…

[@Animejook]

It’s funny u say that. I disagree on the peg 40, I tried it on last year and this shoe doesn’t feel fast and it runs too warm. All that extra cloth feels like a cheap shoe and not meant for performance. Now I do agree that daily trainers with plates are wack and too uncomfortable. In point I’m buying them, too expensive and overhyped. On Friday I’ll b headin over to adidas to try on the supperlite 2. I’ll also be goin to the Nike store to return the peg plus. During my 3 mile run, I had pain in parts of my right leg. This shoe doesn’t feel energetic at all, just feels a bit squishy in the heel. Wish Nike made this shoe more like the peg turbo 2 or the peg 37. I don’t like nike’s current daily trainers

[@SagasuRunning]

Seems like they really don't work for you. I really enjoyed the peg 39/40 but the Peg 41 is a better shoe on all counts. The Peg 41/Peg Plus combo is near perfection for me. However, if they don't work for you...they don't. Whats funny is the Peg 37 is a Peg most people disliked. I too loved them, but it's not that popular.

[@Animejook]

@ I heard that many liked the 35 & 36. Based on the reviews I watched, I found the 37th to be interesting. But those older pegs all look top notch and have such thin uppers. The current one is the opposite

[@leftyseel8658]

Didn’t you feel anuthing weird the first time you wore the Peg40? Coz it feels like the left shoe makes me overpronate a bit, especially when turning left. Also something feels weird under the outsr part of the left foot when i run, seems like there is some squishing.

[@SagasuRunning]

The airbags in the forefoot of the Peg can take a few kms to settle in as the foam breaks in… but usually that is gone within 10-15k, if I feel it at all.

[@leftyseel8658]

@@SagasuRunning Do Pegasus take the shape of one’s foot after a while? Coz that’s how i felt now with my Peg38 after i haven’t worn it in a long while . It now fits perfect, like it perfectly hugs my feet in all the right places.

[@SagasuRunning]

@@leftyseel8658 Yes, they definitely mold to your foot, it's one of the things that makes the Peg so special. It is naturally a very neutral and flexible shoe, that only gets better the more kms you put into it. React foam is good like that. We will see how the ReactX is in the Peg 41...

[@leftyseel8658]

@@SagasuRunning Thanks for these info.

[@Andy-fr6un]

What do you like better for daily trainer and why? Pegasus 40 or Puma velocity nitro 3?

[@SagasuRunning]

That’s a tough one. When I made this video it was the Peg40…. But right now I may lean towards the VN3 due to its increased firmness. I will compare the VN3 and the Peg41 directly and see. Stay tuned.

[@toby9999]

I notice a lot of people bashing the Pegasus and saying it's boring junk. I think it's become fashionable to bash this shoe for no good reason. I actually like the shoe.

[@SagasuRunning]

Most of it comes down to the perception they the Pegasus “never changes”… but honestly that slow iteration version to version is what makes the Pegasus so good.

[@justalarvitar3411]

Is the Novablast 3 considered a good daily trainer for a beginner runner? Asking for a friend

[@SagasuRunning]

It might be one of the best beginner runner shoes…

[@QronoZ713]

"Boring" shoes are the best! Boston, Velocity, Pegasus!

[@SagasuRunning]

They really are! 🤙🏻

[@yalokim5264]

Well, then we are left only with a question - what will the 41 bring? Or do we need it? 😅 Then comes question 2: Do we need updates every year? (sure, big anniversaries build hype;) So, it's hard to say will the general hype reach for the dull Pegasus? Plates aside, the stack height is the even more invasive trend. See the Nimbus 25, for me - a bad change. Yet, well promoted came to be a "successful innovation" and highly anticipated 😮 Not buying it (literally). Daily plates? ...an inevitable offspring. 🤷‍♂️ Brands invested a lot for the racing shoes. They won't let you go away just with that! 😂

[@SagasuRunning]

I do have a video on my thoughts for the Peg 41 on this channel. One thing I’d add to that is I think we will see a little bit more stack height. Not nimbus 25 levels… but more. I like yearly updates. It’s how the industry works. I have no issue with it. One thing Nike has done with the Peg is that they have made it a bit of an outlier, in a good way. It’s totally different than the industry trends, and that is a good thing. I think maybe because the majority of Nike elites train in the Peg, at some point, so they are asking for a shoe that isn’t too far out there. Now the question here is: Should this be the Peg? Likely not, but it is what is keeping the Peg in check at the moment. We will see what the future holds.

[@yalokim5264]

@@SagasuRunning actually, im keen to see what will Peg 42 bring. As a runner it means a bit more 😉 I hope nike will use that opportunity for something BIG. Speaking of big: As much as I am upset at Asics for dropping the same outlier-like Nimbus design, in favour of the hyped BIG foam format... Then my search for alternative makes a surprising turn ...towards Superblast. How about that, in the context of Pegasus, of all daily/do-it-all trainers 🤔 And... what's next after that? Will the Peg50 look crazy on current standards?

[@SagasuRunning]

@yalokim5264 The Peg 42 will be an upper change on the 41. That shoe Nike update sthe Peg… on a 2 year cycle. Odd numbered years are major updates and even number years are minor updates, typically just upper changes. I do think the Peg 50 will be both a big deal, even though it’s an even number Nike will go big on it… and it will likely look different than the Peg of today. Likely foams we don’t have today and a new direction in uppers. I do think that by the time the Peg 50 is here running shoes might be swinging back toward slower stacks… but we will see.

[@yalokim5264]

@@SagasuRunning I'm aware of that 2year cycle - a minimum time needed for production team. I just hope they shift it one day, the 41-42? 😄 Anyway, I don't care as much for this line as for it's offspring. A nice surprise in the likes of the Turbo. Just like the Novablast got it's Superblast. A true turmoil time have already started! Maybe by the Pegasus 50 it will calm down, overcooked midsoles will drop 😋 Well, let's take it step by step. Till your next video.

[@SagasuRunning]

@@yalokim5264 It seems the Turbo, a real Turbo (not the next Nature model) is coming back, possibly next year...so we shall see.

[@WanderinHawk]

Tried them on but didnt see how they could be better than Nimbus 25 or Kayano 30

[@SagasuRunning]

Very different shoes. The Peg is a neutral trainer, the Nikbus is a max cushion trainer and the Kayano is a traditional stability trainer. It is an apple to orange to banana comparison.

[@benjaminsalazar905]

There’s something in this shoe that just don’t work for me now it’s just my for my daily walk. Rather go with the Adidas sl

[@SagasuRunning]

That’s why I mentioned the Saucony and Adidas… between the three shoes everyone should be able to find the one that works for them. I know the forefoot airbag in the Peg can cause discomfort for some.

[@ratana_nop]

How you keep your shoes so clean?

[@SagasuRunning]

Basically I wash/rinse them in the shower after everyone. It’s a “must do”‘given how humid it is here in Taiwan.

[@thewalls7770]

It has become more and more difficult to find a BDT (basic daily trainer). I believe there is still a place for them, but shoe companies seem less willing to produce them. I assume that is driven by consumer demand. Even though the current Pegasus isn't my choice, I would like to see companies continue developing and making them.

[@SagasuRunning]

Me too. Though they do seem to be disappearing. The three shoes I mentioned in the video are likely the best bets now, maybe one or two more out there. They will keep making them but they are evolving them too, with more stack and tech… I hope they balance it all in the coming years. 🤞🏻

[@dattmougherty_5392]

Isn't the Peg 40 heavier by like an ounce than the 39?

[@SagasuRunning]

Peg 39 = 9.2oz/261g Peg 40 = 9.4oz/266g 9 US mens reference size It’s minor and you don’t notice it on foot…

[@dattmougherty_5392]

@@SagasuRunning oh! ok thanks!

[@i.p2088]

I thinking the best neutral ie natural is run barefoot once a week on grass for sand.. Regretfully I never follow my advice..

[@SagasuRunning]

This is why most of the year, though not now as I'm training, I run at least once a week in Luna Sandals... they are vital to all of this. So I agree.

[@GrungeAct]

You know I think it’s time you made some podcasts.

[@SagasuRunning]

Funny you should bring this up. I’ll have an update in the next week or two. Stay tuned.

[@fastguy7927]

react or zoom ?

[@SagasuRunning]

Standard React foam with an Air Zoom unit in the forefoot and heel.

[@ashishdayal6640]

Doesn’t come anywhere near the mach 5

[@SagasuRunning]

Personal preference here. I spent a little time in Mach 4s… they were fine but Hoka foam is not my taste. Also how Hoka’s midsole a wrap up and over the footbed always causes issues for my foot. Not a bad shoe, but not a Peg. I was hoping Hoka would release a Mach 6… but instead we got the dismal Mach X…

[@jacobsebastien3910]

I much rather my pegasus 40"

[@SagasuRunning]

Very much agree. 🤙🏻

[@steven7169]

I feel like if people find a daily trainer boring they should maybe find more exciting places to run. Just my 2 pennies.

[@SagasuRunning]

Well said. I agree actually. It’s so hard to get bored out on a run. So much to see.

[@steven7169]

@SagasuRunning Yeah right, also a great way to explore a new place. If you have trails, well the last thing I want to think about is my shoes on a technical decent, and I've not been to a city that didn't have some sort of chaotic area where your on and off side walks and dodging pedestrians or running with traffic. Or find somewhere quiet and use the run like a meditation. Wherever or however it is you are running the shoes are just a tool, and if you're not thinking about them they are doing their job. Thank you for a very considered review, really enjoy your content.

[@SagasuRunning]

Again. Well said! Thank you for the kind words on my content. I’m glad you enjoy it. 🤙🏻

[@Bruhbmovin]

Pegasus is like a girl that cheated on me, never again. Things was all good back with the 35, then she started hangin with some other soles, then she was different with 36. She b calling and texting from time 2 time talkin bout “I miss you, I love you”. I laugh and remind her I’m chillin with her cousins daily😎 Stay frosty friends

[@SagasuRunning]

Hahaha 😂 To be honest, the 40 reminds me of the 35. It’s a different shoe now but it’s back to that neutral versatility.

[@i.p2088]

Best daily trainer - Superblast 🙄

[@SagasuRunning]

Best performance trainer = Superblast (It's not a daily trainer, even by Asics's standards) Best actual daily trainer = Nike pegasus 💪🏻

[@i.p2088]

Oh my god.. Reverse psychology 😂

[@SagasuRunning]

How so?

[@i.p2088]

@@SagasuRunning Boring is good.. I bought the Ride 15.. Was so boring in donated them.. The combination of the shoe.. Pace.. Body.. Nature.. Is what for me makes running fun. I don't have a race or time goal.. I just run because it gives structure to my day waking up at 0420 and I love the feeling.. Actually the only time I don't have any aches and pains or worries and just feel happy is when running.. Running saved my life.. From fat 105kg with disabilities I became a long distance runner. Diabetes gone.. Lost 34 kg..

[@SagasuRunning]

Congrats on that change. Running is a gift, for sure.

[@theghostofpcs2391]

@@i.p2088 I'm starting to take the same approach when it comes to my running shoes. I used to run in the cheapest shoe that was comfortable for years, but now I'm reaching more and more for high end shoes, not just for the fun, but also for the recovery aspect.