Next up: Nike Dragonfly review ran fully on the road.
@damodaraomalley3974 Жыл бұрын
Did 100k ultra yesterday with this, so Prose; wide toe box, Vibram grip, zoom X rubber. Cons; plate to stiff, shit heel lock, lacers system is either to tight or to loose No good lock, and white! What are they thinking making a trail shoe White!?
@Believeintherun Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on your 100k ultra! Thanks for the update after 100k on the shoes!
@smiff9577 Жыл бұрын
You guys look baked as hell 😂
@kirbyfan300020 күн бұрын
This is the first comment I see and their faces at the beginning just made me laugh so hard I can’t 😂
@randomknowitall Жыл бұрын
A lot of Australian trail races are a mix of fire trail, single track and occasional road. Doesn’t usually get overly technical. If they’re a speedier/even marginally grippier version of the 36 then they should be perfect.
@morganflockhart942 Жыл бұрын
😂 Yeah depends where you are geographically Far North Queenslands brutal!
@randomknowitall Жыл бұрын
@@morganflockhart942 I live pretty much on the UTA course and my preference for fire trails/“gentle” single track up here is actually the streakfly. So long as it’s not steep, rocky or wet. Not sure why Nike couldn’t slim these down to a more race like weight. I’ve still ordered a pair though so 🤷♂️
@morganflockhart942 Жыл бұрын
@@randomknowitall Nice I nearly bought the streakfly imagine them with 3mm Vibram I’m in Cairns a lot of our trails are technical roots & rocks rainforest etc but I’ve still ordered them 😂 might run road to trail in them ( mellow trails) or bring them down to UTA would love to do the 21 or 50🤔
@randomknowitall Жыл бұрын
@@morganflockhart942 mine arrived. Have to say, super comfortable walking around. Feel like the invincible. I’d say they’re heavier because they have a pretty wide somewhat Hoka-ish footprint. So that’s a lot of foam underfoot. And despite having a pretty wide toe box they don’t feel loose at the front like the Peg Trail 4 GTX did. I found with those my foot would be slipping around a bit after a while. Lug depth looks pretty underwhelming but if they’re sticky enough it won’t matter unless it gets wet. Was tempted to do a track session in them but I’ll give them a test on the trails later this week.
@andyseal8134 Жыл бұрын
Think I’ll pick them up just for road running.
@firstnamelastname2971 Жыл бұрын
Same, hope Nike continues to evolve on this design and makes the future generations of this shoe fit for the best of both worlds, both trail and road.
@MattRunsColorado Жыл бұрын
Lotta road talk for a trail shoe haha
@paulmulks Жыл бұрын
Mine arrived yesterday! Got a 10 mile X-country event this weekend and I cannot wait to try them out!!! Lots of Nike bashing going on so far from what I've seen on YT but personally I'm hyped for this 👌
@AndreasBohatsch Жыл бұрын
Would appreciate if you guys have a trail sure for review that you evaluate it for trails and not „complain“ around for road situations isn’t really helpful.
@Believeintherun Жыл бұрын
Read the review online
@tazpengra Жыл бұрын
I like that it's a Nike trail shoe that doesn't look like a retromod 80's or 90's shoe like all their others.
@lgmsampaio Жыл бұрын
I agree that it’s really hard to get a good foot lock on those. I was too running on technical trails and couldn’t feel any confidence with my feet sliding inside the shoes.
@Arki2019 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like it would make a good bad weather training shoe for roads alot of my road routes have crap surfaces anyway
@Manuel_712 Жыл бұрын
Like from Spain. Thanks for this information about the nike 2023. A nice weekend for everyone.
@andrewwright3676 Жыл бұрын
Really like the look of the shoe but it would not work on the trails I run on. The studs would need to be 4.5/5mm and it’s heavy for a race day shoe. It’s a shame I was looking forward to trying this one out.
@cameronthaijohnson Жыл бұрын
I'll stick to the Endorphin Edge given price point, better lugs, and like over an ounce lighter. I don't get the point of it if it's like only good for rail trail racing but it's over 10oz for a 9. I'd just wear a road shoe for something like that and the Endorphin Edge seems better lugs and way lighter for real trails but still has a high stack of super foam and plate.
@mengusprime Жыл бұрын
So you’re telling me up here in Rocksylvania they won’t be the best race shoe? I love the new Wildhorse 8 and the Zegama up here unless it’s wet! Imagine one of those with the vibram!!
@AR9ify Жыл бұрын
Just renewed my road and trail shoes for 2023 the last three weeks by 16 new top of the line pairs, but might get this one as it seems interesting. But are really waiting for the Adidas trail monster with fun-foam (if it releases before 2024). Great review as always. Your reviews have contributed to many of my recent 👟 purchases. 👍
@geert574 Жыл бұрын
Adidas cold ready for me because I don't live in Yellowstone Park, i just have some unpaved road with the little pebbles and a hill to zigzag up to no need for full blown trail shoe. The outsole of trail shoes wears down faster on regular asphalt.
@tylerm46 ай бұрын
Can I run a trail 5k in this?
@i_miss_luke Жыл бұрын
Is there a release date for the US?
@vincewarne228 Жыл бұрын
Come on Thomas! Full review of a massive trail shoe release…just ran on the road?! Get one of your trail reviewers on this 😂
@Believeintherun Жыл бұрын
We did. Go read the review
@vincewarne228 Жыл бұрын
@@Believeintherun I will, but I did mean this review
@davidbraswell1481 Жыл бұрын
When is this one hitting the stores?
@AnotherElDuderino Жыл бұрын
Did you notice it says on the midsole "designed to be fast AF"?! 😮😮 That's a nice touch 😆
@HaiLeQuang Жыл бұрын
At what time did you see that???
@ethan.bernabe Жыл бұрын
@@HaiLeQuang2:12, medial side of the heel
@Believeintherun Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's pretty rad!
@adamward2872 Жыл бұрын
Good for XC racing?
@Burbs1976 Жыл бұрын
I was wanting a shoe for mainly walking on concrete paths and bitumen but I also would be using it on dirt trails and light trail use. Do you think this would be a good choice?
@darshan.. Жыл бұрын
if you’re just walking, this is way overkill
@jansommerlund5497 Жыл бұрын
How does the ZoomX midsole perform compared to the midsole in the Zegama? I really hated that midsole it was way to firm and dense
@SuiEong Жыл бұрын
I have both shoes and ultrafly is softer than zegama. Forefront is only bit better than heel bounce is noticeably better. If you are looking for a soft trail I would take a look at nb fuel cell trail.
@wonkydonkey7899 Жыл бұрын
It’s $260 USD shown on Nike’s website. $10 increase.
@jeremygreenwood2668 Жыл бұрын
Im returning the Ultrafly's - I tried them out on a short 10k trail but have decided that i can't justify the cost versus the versatility of the shoe plus, they're way too heavy - going to purchase Edge, UK Winters can get pretty muddy rendering this shoe next to useless on the trails. Shame as they look nice and they're very comfortable. They'd make really comfy outdoor slippers though :)
@NoName-cz5mg Жыл бұрын
is the energy return better on this compared to zegama bro?
@jeremygreenwood2668 Жыл бұрын
@@NoName-cz5mg I've not tried the Zegama.
@NoName-cz5mg Жыл бұрын
@@jeremygreenwood2668 can u tell me regarding ultrafly and invincible run?which one provides more energy return bro?
@macau.friend Жыл бұрын
Sounds like an excellent shoe to bring with me when I am traveling
@Believeintherun Жыл бұрын
For sure
@JohnBirtchetSharpe Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review , running shoe junkies will lap this shoe up. However I have to say running a 7 hours 50K or longer off roads no thanks. We can get the brilliant NNormal Tomir for £140 (with a recycling / re sole option) or the dependable speedgoat 5 also £100 less. (both with Vibram outsoles). Road shoe with small lugs. It is a shoe for the few individuals who can manage sub 9 minute miles over 50-100 miles Imo. I deffo will never be one of them.
@JohnBirtchetSharpe Жыл бұрын
@gothicgorey Thanks for the clarification 🙂
@jackhood4448 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video guys thanks for the content
@aleksandarkojic Жыл бұрын
Wrong coulor for trail.. For me, some dark colorway 💪
@codyrobinson5130 Жыл бұрын
Love to see Nike go under contract with Vibram finally. (Even though i think this was the year they finally figured out their outsole issues) its a big step forward and a kiger/ wildhorse with a vibram outsole could be a game changer!
@gregoryking4796 Жыл бұрын
Hold up - OG vaporfly next upper and a durable outsole? This is an all rounder 💯
@victordub Жыл бұрын
these or the norda 002?
@codyrobinson5130 Жыл бұрын
You want a carbon plate or a flexible shoe? I think there's a place for both. But I've reeeeally enjoying the norda 002
@codyrobinson5130 Жыл бұрын
And also - another point to consider. Would you be running more flat / fire road trail or more mountainous terrain.
@victordub Жыл бұрын
@@codyrobinson5130 fire roads mostly in southern calironia with some mix of road... prob dont need a carbon fiber plate, but i do like to pick up the speeds
@yalokim5264 Жыл бұрын
Actually I like red so much, I'd give it a RED ❤ Another Park Run shoe Maybe a fire road But if some hills start... they may also end (fast & furious downhill)! This shoe is game changer? Game over ! Next (time) please
@gelocalderon Жыл бұрын
Like reviewing how a pickup truck handles city driving lol. Rare miss
@morganflockhart942 Жыл бұрын
3.5 mm lugs are the new 5mm lugs Tec X are only 4 mm Salomon UG 3.5 Kjerag S/Lab Pulsar and more are all low must be a trend 🤔 5mm is my ideal!
@MrClemencio Жыл бұрын
As a daily shoe i want one. Haha. But a $250 daily shoe is 🤯😅
@kalvin. Жыл бұрын
$260 actually 🥵
@pbnotj1 Жыл бұрын
Price a bit too steep for me ; but hopefully will go on sale at some point then could consider . Sounds like good shoe otherwise .
@TrailJogger Жыл бұрын
Nike's in-house rubber is actually good this year (on the Wildhorse 8 and Kiger 9)
@morganflockhart942 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s a mitten rubber but apparently they’re worried about durability so they’ve gone with Vibram on this one The peg trail 4 GTX also had the new rubber!
@MatthewMoscotto Жыл бұрын
It’s lock down issues because it was modelled after the Nike invincible 😂
@stevenshorten618410 ай бұрын
There should be some form of punishment for running that Megagrip rubber on the road.
@justinmccabe19 Жыл бұрын
$340 in Canada.. hahahahahaha. No thanks my guy.
@SteevWho Жыл бұрын
$260 Casual Shoe.
@zaf2643 Жыл бұрын
Nike took this long to realise that their outsole grip is rubbish & forcing them to use a vibram outsole 🙄
@1JJONES Жыл бұрын
Did Thomas suffer a wild Coyote attack on his arm?
@Believeintherun Жыл бұрын
Yes. Got attacked by a dog.
@1JJONES Жыл бұрын
@@Believeintherun Hopefully that dog will be muzzled now at the very least.
@ajmartinez1906 Жыл бұрын
The Price doesn't do justice. I read it was worn by one of the top male finishers in the Western States 100.
@TruTube.1. Жыл бұрын
2 road runners who's trying to review a Trail Shoe. Yeah that's Blasphemy alright.
@matthiassventoest6800 Жыл бұрын
hmmm, interesting
@patrickvanderwal6324 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a shoe for buffed out trails only. Maybe something fast like Western States but definitely not UTMB. To use this as a road shoe is just plain ridiculous. I mean 250 euros... Then just buy Vaporflys. It should be Endorphin Edge price range.