Movie Talk - are 4K movies worth it?

[@JeffRauseo]

The Revenant is a true 4K disc. It would be better to compare older Blu-rays that were shot on film to new 4K transfers - those are the biggest upgrades in my opinion.

[@Ravn7]

Exiting to see that you are almost at 100K subs

[@branscombe_]

agreed!

[@TCFan30]

The only good thing about 4K? Pushed Blu ray prices down significantly!

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

agree!!!

[@Indiana-r9b]

you are totally right. for me 4k movie are completely useless, most of the movie and TV program are still shot in 2k, they just upscaling it to 4k. I still use my full HD TV to watch Netflix, Blu Ray, play PS4 and Nintendo switch, and totally satisfied with it. i still can accept DVD.

[@Matt-hb7tu]

@@Indiana-r9b You obviously havent seen a 4k 65 inch oled

[@Indiana-r9b]

@@Matt-hb7tu I have seen it, but the price is not worth it.

[@tonyjakobsen8972]

Old movies is good with Ultra HD Blu-Ray

[@LG123ABC]

You forgot about older movies that were shot on FILM. Huge improvement!

[@JohnnyFriendly]

The problem is, how many of those older movies will make it to 4k? I'd wager not many; this will only be a format for films of the future and since the era of physical disk is coming to an end and a 4k stream is pretty impossible for now it's hard to see this becoming anything other than an ultra-niche idea

[@R2D2Ben]

@@JohnnyFriendly Have you seen how many old films have come to 4K disc? Anything shot on 70mm film looks stunning and a lot of 35mm stuff does too. If the care has been put into it.

[@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr]

@@JohnnyFriendly A lot of old movies are in 4k on digital only. Trading Places, Ordinary People etc.

[@TwerpXNation]

@@JohnnyFriendlyyour comment didn’t age well.

[@ebayer1980]

@@JohnnyFriendly most 4k films are older ones. look at new 4l releases. only few are fresh from cinema.

[@aladdinjammal]

Something you didn't talked about is AUDIO, you will find DTS X and Dolby Atmos in more 4k blurays than regular blurays

[@Takeshi357]

He also made no mention of HDR or what older movies that were shot on film with optical effects look like.

[@D-Allen]

Yes, I hope to install ATMOS soon. Are there regular Blu-Ray disc's with ATMOS? I assumed only the Ultra HD Blu-rays might have the ATMOS option. thanks

[@RagingBee1]

MrDae006 you can get Dolby Atmos sound from a Blu-ray as long as the movie is in that format. You can also get it from steaming some stuff on Netflix if you have the a 4K streaming source like an Apple TV.

[@housbinpharteen7445]

yes very true but then you have to add speakers above, buy a 4k player, buy a new receiver, and a 4k tv... just to get the 4k experience? i'll stay with my 5.1 but i have 7.1

[@mets23q]

@@housbinpharteen7445 i been farting

[@megaplayusa2973]

I've bought a few movies in 4k and I'm very impressed with the quality.

[@n7cartmangh897]

Watch lord of the rings in 4k. It's stunning

[@Nsypski]

Hdr doesn't interest you? To anyone that's curious, try and watch planet Earth 2 on a good 4k hdr setup and you will understand that it's a massive upgrade.

[@chris25801]

Yay. Spend countless thousands to watch nature shows.

[@glock269mil2]

Blackmarsh63 and your point is? Not all of us live in the wilderness, desert or the poles. I have this Blu-ray in 4K and it looks fantastic.

[@otactrpotije]

Planet Earth 2 is the best HDR what I saw

[@TheTerryGene]

I agree with you about Planet Earth. However, the Planet Earth 4K disc is actually mastered in 4K, as opposed to most 4K discs, which are 2K upscaled to fake 4K.

[@ShortHandedNow]

Did you even watch the entire video?

[@binozia-old-2031]

Nah I’m staying with vhs none of this new fandangled “480p”

[@addisonwilliamsjr4450]

ROFLMAO

[@moondoggie1970]

That's hilarious!

[@lander77477]

Ill stick with the CED format thank you very much, you have to back a winner!

[@robmlisanti]

LOL moron

[@tarnishedd]

How could you disregard HDR? HDR alone is enough to upgrade

[@KillaSin515]

No. not really.

[@hankleigh9356]

Dolby Vision is the reason to upgrade. Anyone who says it isn't hasn't seen the more vivid colors and many more colors that come with HDR.

[@tarnishedd]

KillaSin515 you obviously don’t have an oled tv

[@brockt9762]

KillaSin515 the U all day. But HDR is amazing.

[@brockt9762]

Todd Jameson not true at all. U def haven’t seen the Sony x930e. HDR is amazing.

[@thejohnson9204]

4K bluray is good here in Australia because our crap internet struggles streaming 4k, especially if you have others in the house watching hi def content at the same time.

[@Zacq768]

oath

[@mkorenhof]

So TRUE 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺

[@pookiepooh]

This video hasn’t aged well. There’s lots of 4K HDR content that looks jaw dropping.

[@professorwh042]

Watch Blade Runner 2049- that will change your opinion on UHD.

[@thegrimyeaper]

Or better yet, watch Blade Runner from 1982 on UHD.

[@jrobles1019]

Or better yet watch Naughty Nurses 2049 on UHD

[@CastellaTV]

it wasn't released yet when he made this video

[@pioneer2321]

4K movies that look good are in single digits. Not consistent throughout the whole range of 4K movies. And TVs yes 4K oled still show artefacts on 4K Bly ray.

[@killer92173]

He should also see 2001 A Space Odyssey in 4K. I swear that movie in 4K looked like it was released yesterday!!!

[@ActionJaxonH]

While the difference isnt that big, it is noticeable. More importantly, 4k discs also include object-based surround sound (Dolby Atmos and DTS:X), in addition to HDR. All combined its worth it. Though I can understand someone sticking with blu-ray. What I CAN'T understand is the ppl who still watch DVDs. Thats nuts

[@WH250398]

Native 4K DI: Yes, definitely worth it. 2K DI upscaled: Stick to the bluray

[@Deffine]

This 2k DI upscaled sold as 4k should be criminal.

[@LaserLips2]

@@Deffine Nah. There's a reason upscaled 4K looks better (sharper)... it's because of the disc size. 4K UHD discs are 100GB in capacity as opposed to standard Blu-ray, which is 25GB. This means you have more space to display the film with less compression. It also means that you get the holy grail of 4K discs... High Dynamic Range. Having each frames peak brightness increase or decrease on certain zones of the TV provides deeper blacks and greater color fidelity.

[@Deffine]

@@LaserLips2 Yeah, you get higher bitrate, but its still 2k resolution master upscaled to 4k resolution on the disc. ITS BLURRY AF. Try Gemini Man 4k blu-ray with 60fps, 85mbits bitrate and HDR, it looks FANTASTIC on my LG C9 OLED. If we could movies in full 4:4:4 chroma, it would look even more detailed. But most wouldnt be able to tell from a distance tbh.

[@pookiepooh]

The HDR is better though.

[@MatiasMontemayor]

I think this video needs a follow up, 4K Blu Ray has come a long way since 2017. Keep up the great work!

[@cjeelde]

Agree!!

[@TANMAC43]

The past few years I’ve built a significant Blu-Ray collection. I’m perfectly content sticking with that.

[@1BeatleManiac]

Do you upscale those Blu rays? How you finding it?

[@frankvee]

Me too... great picture, great sound... no reason to move up yet.

[@curtisb3336]

4K is worth it for the HDR alone.

[@nickjensen4385]

no

[@roof1975]

For sure. This dude must be blind.

[@n7cartmangh897]

Watch star trek into darkness. The 4k only has IMAX

[@firesoul453]

True. A good HDR TV was super expensive in 2016. Most people didn't have one.

[@AcesHighStudios]

This is a really ignorant video. Completely ignores HDR, has no idea that "The Revenant" is native 4K, and speaks nothing at all about the fact that his television may not even be properly calibrated.

[@dacke13]

Not even that but all of the movies today especially in Hollywood is recorded in 6k or even 8k. When they sell the same movie in 1080p it's just 6k or 8k downsampled to 1080p. Even the Star wars movie in early 1999 when they recorded with digital camera they used 4k. A good 4k tv is a huge upgrade from 1080p.

[@AcesHighStudios]

@@dacke13 No, the Star Wars prequel trilogy was shot in HD, not 4K. They were shot digitally and there were no 4K digital cameras in those days. The Prequel Trilogy was shot in 1080p.

[@AcesHighStudios]

@@dacke13 No, Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith were shot entirely digitally and 4K digital cameras didn't exist then. The last two films in the Prequel Trilogy were shot in 1080p.

[@agerisk]

he did say numerous times "mastered" not "shot" and he explains why@@dacke13

[@jailanimajid6115]

@@AcesHighStudios I agree with you. They were shot digitally.

[@norwegianblue2017]

The improvement in color and sound for the 4k is worth it to me. Not for every movie of course, just the ones that have good visuals and a lot of repeat viewing. Most of the 4k discs I bought were $20 and less. Bought T2 Ultra 4k for $7.50.

[@V3ntilator]

4K never impressed me, so i didn't buy a 4K HDR TV until only 2 weeks ago, because of Xbox One X which supports 4K + HDR. DVD to Blu-Ray/HD-DVD were a huge leap, but Blu-Ray to 4K. Not so much.

[@MeruOnYT]

You must have a bad TV if you can't see that a lousy 1080 is a night and day difference to 2160 Dolby Vision with a wide color gamut. It's not even close

[@Ryand0523]

Mera who said he bought a Dolby Vision HDR tv? All I see is 4k HDR... he does not say which version of HDR he has... but I do see a bit of difference between a standard Blu Ray, and a 4k hdr Blu Ray even with HDR: 10.

[@ktoogood11]

totally agree

[@frankvee]

@@MeruOnYT I don't know.. 1080p looks pretty darn amazing on my 60 inch Kuro. I see 4K TVs in the stores and at normal viewing distances I don't see much of appreciable difference, but like I said, I do have a Kuro and a reference quality Oppo blu-ray player.

[@Deffine]

@Frank V. Doesnt the quality of the Kuro image degrade with age? Im thinking of buying one used, but considering thats plasmas colors degrade with time, i dunno.

[@DIGITALSCREAMS]

I buy 4k movies - but they are true 4k (I..e shot on 35mm film) or 4k digital cameras. You will see a big difference in these compared to the older Blu-ray HD and DVD versions. The image has no compression artifacts. Better clarity, better colour and alot sharper. I avoid upscaled 4k - unless it's a film that truly benefits from HDR treatment.

[@aj4123]

I know this is old, but I really wonder how good the HDR capabilities of your TV were because the differences are huge in my opinion.

[@demetter7936]

As soon as he discredited HDR I stopped watching the video. It's likely his TV wasn't even true HDR, probably only 400-500 nits. His opinion is worthless, anyone will tell you ultra HD movies are a huge upgrade nowadays, for both resolution but also bitrate.

[@JayTor2112]

Without getting into the video, I vote a resounding YES. I just recently got my 4k TV and blu-ray player, and sampled a little bit of "The Martia"n in 4k. There's no going back to regular HD now. To me it's the same wow factor as upgrading from SD to HD for the first time.

[@dannyshandy6762]

JayTor2112 u mean a 4K Blu-ray player right?

[@JayTor2112]

@@dannyshandy6762 Yes

[@miguelm09787]

I wonder if the comparison was done using the ultra 4K blu ray player and a standard blu ray player (non 4K)? If he played both movies using the same 4K player both movies will look fairly similar due to the 4K upscaling on the player.

[@vivianatribble1805]

Wow, smart thinking!

[@ThePCGameplaysHD]

You can get 4K upscale as good or even better sometimes from a decent 4K TV as well though. I own a 2011 Sony BDV-EF200 3D 1080p bluray home theater system and I just upgraded my old 32" 1080p Sony BRAVIA to a new 2019 Sony XG8396 49" 4K HDR. It took me a while to figure out the best settings but after I did, the difference in sharpness and detail was amazing playing a regular 1080p bluray. In conclusion 1080p bluray upscaled to 4K by a decent TV it won't look the same as 4K but it will be closer than you would ever imagined. I also own a 4K Apple TV and I have watched 4K HDR content, while it is amazing it's not miles away from a regular 1080p bluray upscaled to 4K. I'm sure 4K Bluray is better than 4K streaming, but 1080p Bluray on a 4K TV isn't to be considered old news. It's up there believe me. In conclusion I won't be rushing out to buy a new 4K UHD Bluray player to replace my old 1080p Bluray player. And to be honest, while I do have the option of streaming 4K HDR movies from the Apple TV I think I will still prefer the 1080p Bluray upscaled from my TV to 4K and getting all the other benefits such as Dolby TRUE-HD/DTS-HD Master AUDIO.

[@telelaci2]

@@ThePCGameplaysHD "...the difference in sharpness and detail was amazing playing a regular 1080p bluray..." - this it true, but you still miss the Dolby Vision and HDR10+ content and that makes the another huge step, "...and getting all the other benefits such as Dolby TRUE-HD/DTS-HD Master AUDIO..." This is not true this is only a theory, in reality you don't get Dolby TrueHD with your cheap old bluray disks, it has only DTS in practice.

[@LILGHETTI]

You need to see the dark knight trilogy in 4K because they have IMAX shots! 4K blu-rays are the future!

[@deanmorgan2515]

I got an Lg E9 oled, with a Panasonic Ub820 4k Bluray player. Yes the Dark Night Trilogy, is amazing, its like watching live TV, its that clear. 👍

[@KiLLED5639]

I must be getting ripped off cuz I bought The Dark Knight Trilogy in 4k ultra HD and it looked liked it was upscaled from 720p. I've gone to the "real or fake 4k" websites and they say it is true 4k but the video quality wasn't crisp at all. The only real crisp, real 4k movie I have is Gemini Man and the video quality in gemini man has blown me away. But I still don't understand how The Dark Knight is real 4k but Avengers Endgame is fake 4k and the picture quality in Avengers Endgame is way crispier?

[@lastsamurai90]

According to IMDb, The Revenant is actually mastered in 4K DI.

[@webbertools]

I'll pass for now ...I'm waiting on 50K .......suppose to have real people in your tv. :-)

[@drakolassboyy4966]

hahaha u might be able to touched them😏

[@Weblogic81]

Lmao and they'll bake real cookies for you too.

[@DangerousParent]

🤣 Love your post👍 I'll wait on "real people" too😄

[@hexus9198]

The snozberries will taste like Snozberries!

[@jjw238]

It is already available. It is called ‘going outside’.

[@ProjectOverseer]

I'm a film maker that works (films) with Sony's 4K Cinealta technology. First, for real 4K i.e. not upscaled from 1080p, you will need a very large screen to see the real & genuine benefits. A 50ft cinema screen would demonstrate clear differences. Larger screens for 6K & 8K. I have a 70" 4K Tv. I can see the difference up real close, but from a normal viewing distance, HD from Blu-ray looks just as good. If you had a 4K projector (not upscaled) with your own home cinema, you would benefit 😉

[@demonpride1975]

i have a 60 inch 4k tv, and sit around 9 feet away from it, and i could see the clear difference in the warcraft scenes, and even in the revanant.

[@zorglubz1606]

I agree with you. People seem to be obsessed with pixel count now that the marketing trend is 4k. Pixel count has the least impact on image quality unless you are using a projector or you sit really close to your TV. Most improvements we are seeing with 4k TVs are due to HDR, better brightness, and better contrast ratios. Increased computing power naturally brings increased pixel count and manufacturers will be soon pushing 8k and then 16k. But the only way to move the consumer towards further increases in pixel count is to make bigger screens or screens that are closer to your eyes. I think this is where the next generation of technology is going: folding TVs and then eventually full VR but with light portable glasses. Also with VR 3D becomes relevant again, so 3D will make a resurgence eventually. To conclude... it's a bit of a certainty that VR and AR are eventually where the industry is going...

[@ProjectOverseer]

demonpride1975 Games are not the same as film/video and you will see benefits in refresh & frame rates as well as resolution. Cinematic film has a frame rate of only 24fps not 60 plus frames of gaming graphics.

[@demonpride1975]

@chris bishop yes i know that. but 4k rv's have much more deep range in color. whites are whiter blacks are blacker. this directly effects the difference between 1080p, and 4k.

[@timramich]

Isn't a lot of this 4k stuff shot with cameras that have that stupid bayer mask, and not really 4k per color? That would explain why the difference is negligible.

[@allicafilms2467]

4K now days has completely changed & even then it was pretty impressive :) The Revenant can be debated but I noticed a major difference in the way it was shot & how 4K with HDR can pick up resolution, colour, light & sharpness like anything else. Also for gaming references, The new Call Of Duty is amazing in 4K & it legit feels like they are real & right in front of you Ps. Blade Runner 2049 is amazing in 4K & also a KZbin Video on Costa Rica in 4K :) Both showcase 4K & the 4K Television at its best.

[@sharpstat]

I have a 4K blu-ray player that does upscaling as mentioned by another person and a 4K television and can see the difference between 1080P and 4K. The largest improvement is HDR which has better black details and colors. I'm not sure why others are so negative about 4K movies? This video is 2 years old and there are a lot more movies available now! Alita battle angel is a great movie to rent or buy to see how good 4K has become.

[@lachlanmacarthur8992]

I’m pretty sure blade runner 2049 was in true 4k

[@davepastern]

yes, it is.

[@travisspazz1624]

Yes, Roger Deakins supervised it in post production and finished it in 4k.

[@davepastern]

@@travisspazz1624 and a superb film it is too imho!

[@CastellaTV]

it wasn't released yet when he made this video

[@travisspazz1624]

As for the thumbnail, The Revenant is clean AF!

[@DeLorean75]

The price point is also an issue. I can get a brand new BD movie for €14-19, while a 4K movie is around €30 here in Sweden.

[@guachito33]

true... i normally buy new BR movies about two months after release, normally around 10-14 dollars... 4K about 23-30 dollars, no thank you

[@UltraCasualPenguin]

Reason why 4K release is twice as expensive is because you get both: Full HD BD and UHD BD.

[@doncristobalaspee5925]

Just to provide you with some international info: in the UK at my supermarket a brand new release movie is £25 4K £15 bluray £10 DVD.

[@UltraCasualPenguin]

@@doncristobalaspee5925 So, basically you're getting regular BR release £5 off if you get 4K release. Not bad.

[@RonsaRRR]

Don't buy - download movies from Torrent for free)

[@charvelgtrs]

A lot of new 4K releases are getting brand new remasters that they don't include in the standard Blu-rays making the improvements that much more noticeable. Its kinda lame to have this paywall, but those 4K releases do look better usually with the few exceptions of botched remasters.

[@gamble777888]

Add the 4k movies you are wanting to buy on your amazon wish list and wait for a sale. I've picked up Life of Pi, Dark Knight Rises, Predator, and Alien in 4k for under 14USD each.

[@bellowingsilence]

I think the main reason to bother with a 4K TV is for streaming content. HD streaming is often quite inferior to the quality of HD Blu-ray with the much greater amount of compression, while 4K streaming tends to get you a much nicer bitrate (thus, better video quality...) Most platforms simply won’t let you stream the same video quality at the lower resolution, so you’re often stuck using a 4K TV to get truly high quality HD+ video over the internet. And yeah, this is only due to these platforms choosing to lock the higher video quality into these higher resolutions, but that’s another topic...

[@Ryan072004]

I was gonna comment about how wrong you are, then I saw it was done in 2017.. 4k has come a long way since then

[@jamesorsby7553]

Yeah, the 4k discs as well as the 4k players are much better than before.

[@Earthtime3978]

@@jamesorsby7553 you mean the 4K in 2017 isnt the 4K of 2021? A better 4K player makes a difference? Huh. That doesn’t seem to be the case with blu ray .

[@jamesorsby7553]

@@Earthtime3978 The processing is better now than what was available in the past...that goes without saying. Certain players have very good upscaling capabilities, while others can’t do it.

[@Earthtime3978]

@@jamesorsby7553 I don't believe it. Is one blu ray player better than another at producing 1080p?

[@roof1975]

@@Earthtime3978 hdr, Dolby vision, streaming services,, OLED tv's etc. Trust me. Get an OLED and load up something in 4k hdr or Dolby vision. Thank me later..

[@catoblepag]

For projection, 4K is a huge advancement, absolutely crucial. When you watch a movie on a screen with a 3.35 meters base, you'll need all the resolution you can get.

[@frankvee]

I agree with this. If you're projecting the picture on a large screen then yes 4K is definitely good to have. 1080p would still look good but you'll get more detail and clarity from a 4K projector.

[@heymelon]

I think you had a pretty bad tv for HDR if you didn't see much difference there. I'd much rather prefer watching movies with good HDR / dolby vision than "true 4k".

[@Van_frederick]

this

[@DigitalDuece]

hdr is in 4k dipshit

[@rosstee]

Mike B No, it works right now

[@thesbizzy]

But also dolby vision is a 12 bit color signal. While hdr10 is a 10 bit color signal...No tv has a 12 bit color signal. Hence dolby vision is a lil better than hdr 10 but its a gimmick to make us spend money.

[@thesbizzy]

I bought my tv thinkin dolby vision was a must

[@standarddef8769]

I've only upgraded a few titles from DVD to Blu. No way I'm updating my somewhat large DVD collection, and I still buy regular DVDs based on price, title, etc. I'll stick with Blu and old fashioned DVD.

[@DarkSoul-ds2]

ive watched the harry potter collection on dvd on my 4k bluray player and it upscales great. Dare I say that they looked as good as 4k bluray when I peeked away from an unreasonable 15 feet of distance on my 50 inch tv.

[@santaria19]

@@DarkSoul-ds2 "Dare I say that they looked as good as 4k bluray" Never. Either your eyes are very bad or you've never seen an actual 4k blu ray movie.

[@DarkSoul-ds2]

santaria19 from like 15 feet away i said

[@markpugh6808]

Some Dvds aren't on Blu Ray so explains why Blu Ray hasn't seen Dvd off like Dvd did to VHS

[@edwarddore7617]

I love my 4K, but there is a much bigger difference between DVD, and Blu-ray, compared to Blu-ray, and 4K

[@lold6130]

When you stream a movie at home the sound & picture is compressed. 4k discs are the best sound & picture available.

[@overtongreen527]

4k + HDR is absolutely amazing. The two big issues right now is all 4k tv are not created equal. OLED is a big up from LED screens. Also for 4k to truly shine you need a large tv and a setup that allows for optimal viewing distance. I went from a 4k 65inch Samsung to a 4k 85inch Sony. The difference was extrordinary. 4k while having a barely noticeable effect on my 65inch tv was nothing short of orgasm for the eyes on my 85inch tv. There is literally no comparison watching a blue ray movie on a 47inch tv vs. watching UHD movie on a 4k HDR top of the line tv. Once you truly get to appreciate the latter you will never want to watch anything but 4k content.

[@lorneturner5318]

Thanks for your video. i do have to disagree with you though. Movies like Blade-runner 2049, The Martian and Thor Ragnarok are pretty impressive on 4K. Just my opinion...take care.

[@jameslovell8682]

They are impressive sure. but they are not 4 times BluRay like they should be.

[@losm.2433]

Many people don’t realize that you also need a great tv! Not all 4K TVs are equal people! Spend a little more money for a tv with some of the bells and whistles; a larger refresh rate for sure and maybe HDR. LG OLED’s are awesome, had mine for a year now! No complaints! Tons of 4k content on KZbin as well. Also, if you normally wear glasses, then please wear your glasses when watching as to fully notice the quality.

[@lorneturner5318]

I fully agree...

[@aaronstickle]

James Lovell blade runner 2049 is definitely 4x the quality. its the best looking disc i’ve ever seen. even without directly comparing it to the blu ray you’ll be blown away

[@lorneturner5318]

I find it to be an impressive visual and auditory experience. Really glad I bought it...

[@Mrrimon74]

4k movies come with better audio than normal Blu-ray movies like Dolby Atmos and DTS 7.1

[@pm45678]

I understand what you’re saying, but part of the reason that Blu-Rays look so good on a 4K TV is that they’re upscaled. So you’re right, the difference is more noticeable in terms of HDR. But since the 4K version isn’t much more than the Blu-Ray on most new releases, I’m getting 4K and only replacing Blu-Rays I have if the 4K is a significant remaster.

[@delaunfifield3490]

...now that we are 5 years along since this video was made-you might want to RETHINK your opinion! My Sony 4K player, combined with my Sony 7.4 sound system and 4K TV make the ULTIMATE movie experience-ESPECIALLY with a 4K disc!

[@danieldougan269]

I heard "Life of Pi" is really good in 4K, particularly because of the HDR. It might be the only 4K Blu-ray where it really makes a difference.

[@gamble777888]

It looks great, but there are many movies where 4k blu-ray makes a difference. Every Nolan movie looks incredible in 4k.

[@MrVb66]

Here it is 2019 two years later you should do an updated video in 4k so we can see the detail of the egg that's on your face

[@PhillyDjHook]

I think you have a cheap 4K TV without HDR 10.

[@daniellopez8330]

PhillyDjHook a Samsung qled q9f 2018 or 2019 65” or bigger is what you need. Hdr plus and Dolby vision are great. I have a cheaper model Samsung q7f 65” and is gorgeous.

[@fayezm3148]

@@daniellopez8330 if you're a movies guy go a head for the OLED's not good for hardcore gamers tho.

[@austinwillcut4919]

@@fayezm3148 Why aren't they good for gamers? Just wondering

[@fayezm3148]

@@austinwillcut4919 oled's in general offers a great picture even in gaming modes but it's not practical as LED's, like if you played long hours with static images it can cause some kind of burning in the screen the static images can appear in if watched other contents ' but this can only happen after a long long period of time , I think the LG nano sell is great for gamers also it offers a decent level of deep black not like oled's but it's more practical .. You're welcome to check out some KZbin videos in that regard , peace

[@dgma626]

It's because most movies are fake 4k

[@bassage13]

I use a projector with a 12' wide screen. 4K definitely makes a difference.

[@MaximRecoil]

I doubt you have a 4K projector. If the retail price of it was less than about $6,000 and it's marketed as "4K", it's bullshit. Those use "pixel shift" which supposedly simulates 4K. Their native resolution is 1920x1080. Also, even if you do have a true 4K projector, if you're seeing a difference in detail between ~2K and 4K then you're sitting too close to the screen. 2K DCPs are still more common than 4K DCPs, which means you're more likely to see 2K in a theater than 4K. Theater screens are way bigger than 12'. Even in a small discount theater, the screen is usually at least 25'.

[@bassage13]

@@MaximRecoil You have no idea what you are talking about. Please stop embarrassing yourself.

[@ericbrunnich5272]

After purchasing more than a dozen 4K movies, looking for that elusive 4K eye-popper, played on a very good 4K player and a LG 77” 3-D TV, I agree COMPLETELY with your conclusions, Nikki. Excellently done! My own personal advice on investing in 4K: DON’T SELL THE FARM! Fortunately, I didn’t. P.S. in reading “Sound and Vision” regularly for years, I’ve never seen anything like THIS comparison in terms of factual, unbiased evaluation, conclusions and recommendations. Blame that on relying on advertisers, I would guess. P.S.S. How about a review of the latest LG 77” flagship or the current YAMAHA flagship AVR or PRE/PRO/AMP combination. Love your equipment and top-notch reviews.

[@MattKayser]

I think a lot of people who don't get the difference simply don't have their televisions calibrated properly. You can't just pull it out of the box and go with the default settings. You have to research a little and get it how you like it. I had my 70" 4K TV and player for some time before I hit that "sweet spot." Added to that, a 4K player usually upscales BD discs, so they look better than on a regular BD player anyway, which may make it seem like the difference isn't as great, but the difference is staggering... truly. Put that BD disc into an old BD player and compare that to a 4K disc in a 4K player on a properly calibrated 4K TV and tell me it still looks the same. You also need a proper cable. The one that comes with the TV or 4K player is usually just a regular HD cable.

[@shoutti]

better image + HDR worth to buy. blueray 1080p is good but 4k HDR is better.

[@fayezm3148]

What if my tv doesn't support HDR? 😥 I mean i have a 4K tv but is HDR really worth it to upgrade ?

[@Vircepresident]

@@fayezm3148 hdr is the only real advantage of 4k movies

[@SpeakerBuilder]

Apparently, no one understands the need for 4K, and certainly no one is explaining it. That's because retailers need to make money, and having the next latest amazing gear sells products. But the truth, as you are discovering in this video, is that the level of difference btw the two formats for viewers watching movies on home theater systems is very small and nearly undetectable. Now for the real reason why 4K was developed. Movies have historically been projected from film onto very large movie house screens with no pixelation issues. High definition became popular for home use and for video makers because the resolution was so much better than in SD, which really was very poor. But if you project an HD movie onto a very large screen in a movie house, you will get easily noticeable pixilation, esp when seated in the first half dozen rows in front of the screen. So along comes 4K, and now the resolution is sufficient to compare to film, and no pixilation is noticeable in the movie house. HD could never replace film for movie house display, but 4K can. As for making videos for youtube, and for watching movies at home, HD is just fine. In fact, all my SD movies on DVD look pretty good on my HD TV.

[@alvallac2171]

*pixelation

[@MaximusTheChosenOne]

You couldn’t be more wrong

[@ThisGuyDrives]

Even my 65 year old mom would argue with you about 4k. She was blown away by the difference and she was a person that was happy watching a dvd on a 55HDTV. Not anymore! Her mind has been changed with 4k! 4k with HDR gives you depth, vividness and clarity that regular HD doesn’t.

[@povertime6381]

Please do not say DVD is okay. Anyone that thinks that is not wasting their time watching videos like this. On a 32 inch TV 10-15 feet away, DVD is okay.

[@vinylman6580]

After replacing my entire library of movies from VHS to DVD to BLU RAY! That hobby has become way too expensive! I think I will just buy a good 4K TV and player which will upscale my BLU RAY'S close enough to 4K resolution!

[@mojomood2888]

Well this trick won't work for Star Wars 4k for example

[@MurrayNJ08]

It’s now 2019 and 4K formate is out the roof. I own around 125 titles and movie collectors are switching completely to 4K. My new Samsung 4K us incredible with HDR. It depends on the cables you use, the quality of the player and TV. They all add up. Also audio is a huge factor in 4K. It’s like iMax in your home with the correct setup.

[@nickwest932]

Where 4k really shines is movies shot with film. There is a lot of of older movies shot on film getting the 4k treatment too.

[@LordDementus1987]

I would suspect many of those are simply upscales because the costs of going back and doing a new 4K scan from scratch, then redoing effects, is just too high and it takes a lot of time. That's why many companies farm it out to boutiques because people simply won't buy it again.

[@ericshutter5305]

short answer: YES. higher resolution, better colors, better sound standard support (atmos) IF done right and really done in 4K. just go watch a few 4K nature docs...

[@klaasj7808]

pornhub?

[@alexjaimes4191]

You must keep in mind, to achieve full 4k uhd experience you must have the right set up. Cables, connections, equipment, ect. Also many 4k uhd movies have not only visual quality but sound quality encoded as well. Dtsx, dolby atmos. It's worth it.

[@krsalilkr]

You will get Amtos and dts x in 1080p also.

[@alexjaimes4191]

@@krsalilkr I have yet to see a blu ray dvd that supports dolby atmos. I could be wrong but ive only seen uhd blu ray with sound quality

[@doesntmatter2744]

It's worth it... Dont listen to a guy that doesnt know about hdr. Hollywood is getting ready to start using 8k so once everyone finally comes around to 4k the ones that have already adapted will be laughing as we are getting ready to move on and have people like this guy say he can't see the difference.

[@dannykl6883]

I am more than happy with 1080P Blu Ray quality. I used to be one of those early adopters who had to have the latest tech but not anymore I’m tired of giving the big tech companies and Hollywood studios all my money! I am from the U.K. and regularly purchase disc only Blu Rays from people who bought the 4K version and want to recoup some of their cash. They normally sell for £5/6 for the latest movies which is far better value than £20//25 for the equivalent 4K. I can understand people wanting the 4K disk as it usually has the Atmos sound mix attached to it ( the studios are very cunning not to include the Atmos mix on most 1080p versions to encourage people with Atmos setups to pay the extra money for the 4K disk) I have a very high end 5.1 audio setup and don’t plan on upgrading to Atmos so that doesn’t appeal to me either. I also do ALL of my movie watching on my 1080p JVC projector and the image quality is outstanding. Ok I might see slightly less colours and no HDR (which hasn’t been properly Implemented on projectors yet, anyway) so for the foreseeable future I’ll stick with what I have. Maybe I will upgrade to 4K when the new 8k standard for movies will be released, hopefully by then I will be able to pick up 4K discs for the £5/6 I am paying now.

[@rl4889]

The rush to 8k, yet 90% of movies marketed as 4k are not. This is a great video. This fact however is very troubling.

[@wezz69]

And another reason is many 4k tvs upscale hd to 4k, could be why you cant see the difference?🤔

[@steven2809]

Wesley Meredith I think they ALL do that.....

[@gamble777888]

4k tvs can only display a 4k resolution.

[@wezz69]

Adrian Arenas 4k tvs can display every resolution up to 4k. Try setting a youtube video to 360p, a 4k tv will play it at that resolution!

[@gamble777888]

@@wezz69 No, what you are seeing is a 360p resolution stretched out to 4k.

[@gamble777888]

which is why watching any non-upscaled content looks so awful in 4k tvs.

[@doshi066]

2019 now and alot more 4K Blu rays are out and plus it comes with a Blu Ray disc anyways so I rather buy 4K...I wonder what he thinks of 8K? Lol

[@frankvee]

8K is pointless unless you have a 150 inch TV and you enjoy sitting 4 feet from the screen.

[@jamesorsby7553]

I wonder why some 4k discs don’t come with a blu ray while others have it?

[@tatsumaru12345]

Think if you're buying a new movie, go ahead and get the 4k. But upgrading your existing blu-rays to a 4k blu-ray disc? Probably not so much, unless its something you're absolutely in love with. Especially when Disney is cropping over 30% of the image of Infinity War, it shows you some companies don't care about home theater at all.

[@theshakter]

When people say they can't get the best for watching 4k movies. It actually helps if you have a 4k telly, even if it's 4k upscale

[@dejesus360]

The Ultra HD format brings Dolby Atmos and DTS-X for audio. If you're an audiophile, this is the format you want to use!

[@Heartofilluminationmoonwalker]

There are many bluray titles that contain the Dolby Atmos format

[@keyzone72]

I suppose that when this video was uploaded in late summer of 2017, some of his points WERE correct. But as of May 2019, ALOT of of his criticisms are just wrong. At 5:28, he even says " it's not worth buying a 4K player or 4K movies.", and I could not disagree more. The fact that he saw very little improvement when comparing the 4K version of THE REVERANT compared to the 1080P version of the same movie boggles my mind. The HDR color, improved shadow detail and undeniable upgrade in overall picture quality is totally obvious. It actually makes me question the quality of this guy's vision. Here are a list of some 4k UHD movies as of MAY 2019 that look SIGNIFICANTLY better than their 1080P little brother: ALIEN Bohemian Rhapsody Fury IT Wonder Woman Coco Mad Max Some movies have offered minimal upgrades from 1080P to 4K which do not justify a purchase. But overall, this opinion expressed that purchasing a 4K player and 4K UHD Blu-Rays are not worth it is simply not true. As long as you value picture quality, SOUND QUALITY and are willing to invest in 4K UHD movies you plan to watch more than 2-3 times, 4K disc media IS worth it.

[@MattKayser]

Yeah, I think many people that don't get the difference simply don't have their televisions calibrated properly. I had my player and tv for some time before I found that "sweet spot."

[@Vircepresident]

Alien just looks that good compared to Blu-ray because of the brand new 4K Master, the bluray is from 2010 and they used some filters to remove film grain. If they gave this movie a brand new remasterted 1080p Bluray the difference won't be that big. The other movies in your list are not that much better than the 1080p Version. HDR itself can be mind-blowing but most movies do not use all of the potential it brings. even some movie fans on youtube do a better HDR colour grading than the buyable 4k blurays. If the Bluray is also mastered in 4k the only noticeable difference between bluray and 4k bluray is hdr which the moviemakers do not use in the right way. This is why 4 bluray sucks.

[@mannydelossantosproduction1306]

Just watched the Revenant in 4k and it looked amazing! Huge difference. With that said, I'm waiting for 8k tvs 😂

[@pioneer2321]

Manny De Los Santos Productions What tv did you watch it on.

[@TheRowlandstone73]

I agree, The Revenant looks awesome in 4K. As soon as I put the disc in and saw the menu screen, I was impressed.

[@intergalactic242]

So 8k is going to be the real 4k? Lmao that would suck

[@Skrenja]

Why? 8k is the most pointless thing ever. Do you plan on sitting 1mm away from your TV?

[@jameslovell8682]

Superb video full of information, Thanks man. I bought just one 4k Bluray (Spider-Man Homecoming) and that has been my conclusion exactly. Not buying any more 4k. I find that a top standard Bluray is still better than the digital screens in the Cinema!.

[@MaximusTheChosenOne]

James Lovell sounds like your set up is the issue

[@ericmiller5304]

he say he cant see the difference but at first glance I can tell a huge difference

[@FinnishArmy]

I buy 4K for the HDR and sometimes Dolby Vision. I think HDR is a huge difference. You only notice that if you have a good TV. Just because it says HDR on the box, doesn’t mean it’s good.

[@edyoung6573]

Well done, thank you for the explanation! I only own 2 4k movies, glad I found your video before I purchased more!!!

[@AKSBSU]

Some look much better such as Blade Runner 2049 or 2001: A Space Odyssey.

[@boatymcboatface666]

I still prefer my old Panasonic 1080p Plasma. Movies look like movies, not over processed. When looking at buying, I tried a 50inch LED/LCD , with Blu-ray of Titanic and Fifth Element, Titanic looked like a doco and Element too.. so plasma it was and still is. 😀👌

[@skullman9535]

Boaty Mc Boatface i just recently disposed of my plasma TV:( it kept breaking n repairs on that thing were just toooooooo expensive. Glad im not the only one still using one of dem things.

[@latelle]

Boaty Mc Boatface I still have a 60 inch plasma Samsung that works great. Stay are amazing for color the only problem is once the gas burns out it's expensive to fix. And the biggest downfall was the heat that it produces. Great for cold climates

[@dickfantastic7908]

Got a 75" Sony LCD to replace my 65" Plasma last year, but the Plasma still has a home in my garage. I like a lot of things about the Sony, but in a lot of ways the Plasma still kicks it's ass. I didn't get rid of the Plasma, I just found a new wall for it to hang upon. I'll never get rid of my old Panasonic, it's awesome.

[@flamehiro]

to be honest, 4k probably shines more on video games, not so much on remasters of old movies

[@djsoulfilter]

Boaty Mc Boatface I'm still using my 42" Panasonic 720p Plasma :). One of these days I'll upgrade to 4K.

[@RenetheFarmer]

If you ;have a better surround sound system more and more of the Atmos and DTS X tracks are only available on the 4K Discs so if you want to get the most out of your home theater you kind of need the 4K

[@danielibarra2404]

That's true. The studios have figured on how to play the game concerning the audio tracks.Coming in 2 years, Ultra Ultra Dolby Atmos and DTS XXX

[@themockbustercanada]

The best 4K movies are movies made in film. Blade runner looks absolutely stunning on 4k

[@MrJay197409]

I agree 100. I say just buy blu ray and let your 4k tv and 4k player upscale. I have noticed a lot of 4K discs are very expensive now if you can get a deal or it's the same price as Blu-ray than yes I would get the 4K. One thing that does annoy me about buying 4k is you get the 4k disc, 1080p blu ray, digital copy yet no DVD. If you buy a 1080p Blu-ray movie get the 1080p Blu-ray, a DVD and digital copy. I feel if I buy a 4K movie I should get a 4K movie the 1080p disc the digital copy and a DVD. Yes I want all four formats.

[@mkorenhof]

4k gaming looks brilliant on 4k television as well

[@jaythomas3224]

Thanx you jus saved me a boat load of money. Im satisfied with my blu ray on 4K TV

[@africanhistory]

And blu ray did the same damn thing. They took low res and put it in Blu ray. Quality is the same. Old trick.

[@TheGamingBozz]

Wow, HDR is my entire reason to purchase 4k movies over their blu-ray counter parts. The wide color gamut and higher contrast are amazing on my epson home cinema 5050ub projector. If you have a high quality player like the Panasonic ub820 or ub9000 or one of the oppos or pioneer's you can really begin to enjoy what the format offers. The 4k resolution itself is literally the least important aspect of the new format.

[@universaInformation]

you missing point, my all favorite movies from 80s and 90s shot on 35mm film, which can be scanned up to 6k. Original negative scanned to 4k is Cristal clear compare to 1080p blue ray.

[@RadicalEntertainment]

Right, anything shot on 35mm or 65mm is already in ~6k (With 65/70mm films holding much higher resolutions than digital which can be scanned at 8k and 16k in the future.) Shooting digitally at 2k is not future proof. Shooting digitally at 6k or 8k would be a good idea for better colors and future re-releases. Film was and is very future proof which is why we have seen many rescans of old movies, where the studios scan the original color negatives at 4k and release them on Blu Ray and/or 4K Ultra HD. A 4k scan then downsampled to 1080p is going to look beautiful.

[@evooff]

@@RadicalEntertainment Film is not future proof at all. You can't just keep on rescanning it in higher and higher resolutions, that's not how it works. 99% of movies shot on 35mm will never be scanned in anything higher than 4K because you will not get any more detail doing so, you'll just get finer grain.

[@RadicalEntertainment]

@@evooff I know that, I said 65mm can be scanned at 4K and then IF 8K becomes a thing, they can re-scan movies like 2001 and TENET at 8K. 35mm is 6K 65mm is 12K IMAX 15/70 is 18K.

[@evooff]

@@RadicalEntertainment 35mm is not 6K. Even 4K is stretching it. You would need the negative to be in the absolute best condition, shot with the best lenses and the film stock to be as light on grain as possible to be able to extract 4K from 35mm. Even normal 2K digital cameras can often be more detailed than 35mm film scanned in 4K resolution. Also IMAX cameras shoot in 65mm.

[@OvnicentAparatus]

Looking back at this video makes me laugh look at 4k how far has gone.

[@MaximRecoil]

Zoomers thinking that August 2017 was a long time ago make me laugh. UHD hasn't progressed at all, i.e., it's specifications haven't changed at all. They can't change the specifications of a video format because then it would be a different format which would require a new name.

[@roof1975]

@@MaximRecoil you must not have an OLED tv watching 4k Dolby vision content.. But enjoy dude 😂

[@MaximRecoil]

@@roof1975 Your non sequitur is dismissed.

[@cheema1333]

I think there's a massive difference between the two,i feel sorry for the dude cus his stuck with all those blu rays.

[@MrRenobarbican]

This guy has a cheap telly and a cheap 4K player, no wonder he isn’t impressed. Get some decent equipment before criticising

[@MagiofAsura]

Right? He didn't even mention what model he has

[@Darkmanmr47]

1. 4k is four times the bandwidth, but only twice the resolution. 2. For Audiphiles who love the newest lossless surround formats, there is no real choice but the 4k uhd blu ray disk, sometimes the full hd blu ray also gets the Dolby Atmos or DTS:x track, but it's more of an exception than the rule. 3 a lot of people sit too far from their tv to notice a visual difference, but the audible difference between lossless Atmos or Lossy Dolby digital on DVD/blu ray is night and day; especially on a high end system. 4. Netflix started encoding movies with the lossy Atmos (Atmos on DD+) and will probably also.add lossless variants in the future, as demand increases, along with necessary bandwidth. But, until then, the UHD Blu ray disks have their place, regardless of what intetests most, video Rezolution.

[@adomniapericula]

4k is 4 times the resolution of 1080p

[@Darkmanmr47]

@@adomniapericula no it is not, 4k is nearly 4kilo whereas good old full hd is nearly 2 kilo, thats only twice the increase in resolution. It is only that with full hd they were mentioning the vertical resolution, 1080 and with 4k they decided to use the horizontal resolution instead.

[@adomniapericula]

@@Darkmanmr47 Bro, it is still 4 times the resolution, notwithstanding the error that has slipped into the naming system (something which I already was aware of). 4k is about 8.5 million pixels, 1080p (Full HD )is about 2 million pixels. You do the math.

[@CaptainScorpio24]

@@adomniapericula nope its 1920x1080p(2k)*2=3840x2160p(4k)

[@adomniapericula]

@@CaptainScorpio24 Are you guys stupid or not? You're comparing the names (1080p, 2k, 4k) which aren't very descriptive and inconsistent when it comes to resolution. You have to look at the total amount of pixels. See my previous comment.

[@Jayli0]

DvD vs Blue-Ray = I prefer Blue-Ray, I noticed a difference. I can watch either but strongly prefer Blue-Ray. Once you try Blue-Ray, you have hard time going back to DvD. Blue-Ray/1080p vs 4k = I don't care. The difference is so minimal its not worth going from Blue-Ray/1080p to 4k. You really have to focus and pay attention in a practical sense. Thanks to the ability as we humans are able to adapt. Your brain will adjust due to the minimal difference, thinking that they are the same. If you are bothered by the difference its an indication you notice a true difference. If you aren't or barely bothered, don't change anything.

[@tediousmaximus1067]

Most people today buy movies for their CGI special effects, so if the effects are only created in 2K, what is the point of buying 4K UHD movies? It's a waste of time and money.

[@coloniellizardt4191]

Steve Hunter If you have a decent 4K HDR TV and possibly a Atmos/DTS:X home theater setup, then 4K Blu-ray is still better in some ways than regular Blu-ray.

[@bakoe7604]

Tedious Maximus Hdr, better sound and higher bitate. Native 4K doesn’t always mean fantastic picture. As i said you also are disregarding sound which is alot better on 4K blurays.

[@barfy362]

The step up in quality from VHS to DVD was awesome and something I had to have. I couldn't go back to watching VHS after that. The step from DVD to Blu-Ray was cool but never really something I found necessary. I'm still just fine watching a regular DVD or streaming. I can't imagine myself ever buying physical 4K media.

[@philippillis9393]

DVDs are shit. Most of them have horrendous digital artifacts and the only benefit they brought was better audio. Blu Ray and HD was the real revolution and 4K is stunning. Night and day difference from standard HD with hdr and object oriented sound.

[@edwarddore7617]

DVD to Blu-ray is a large improvement, not as much as Blu-ray to 4K

[@FenderStrat19711]

@@philippillis9393 I would say that the revolution began with DVDs. Remember the old days when you were reminded to "be kind, rewind"? Yes, I'm talking about your old VHS tapes that you had to manually rewind at the end of the movie. When is the last time you did that with a DVD? Or how about the ability to skip directly to a specific chapter on a movie? Ever try to do that with VHS tape? The fact is that the revolution began when we made the jump from analog technology to digital technology, just like the jump from phonograph records to CDs. THAT was the start of the revolution. After that, we have had incremental improvements in the quantity of data provided by improved formats.

[@lawyer4ever]

I generally stream but for my go to favorite movies, Braveheart, Black Hawk Down, GOT, etc., I have switched to 4K blu-rays because I want the best possible picture and sound on my OLED TV and sound bar.

[@stubones]

You all claiming 4k is crap when you're viewing relatively small screens. HD still looks razor sharp at 65", but try it at 120" +. Fools.

[@frankvee]

Well most of us don't watch on 120 inch screens. I'm perfectly content on a 60 inch plasma screen.

[@CVO_MAN]

It's a matter of "incremental benefit" with technology changes. The more technology is mature and the more incremental benefits are relatively small. 4k and now 8k are more about marketing differentiators than other.

[@kingatheist7231]

I love blu rays. I do think DVD is still the mostp opular as mostp eople have a dvd player to hand. I think DVD's look good but when seeing the same movie on blu ray, there is a very clear difference visually and audibly, and it feels a lot more immersive. It's a shame Hollywood won't catch up to today's tech.

[@brandonmoreland4392]

The quality is amazing but I'm not paying 30 to 40 bucks for a dvd

[@charvelgtrs]

They are down to $19.99 for most releases now.

[@The_Handies]

4k is only $5 more for than normal. 4k comes with both versions. 4k Jurassic Park is only $60 for the box set. Divide that across 5 movies and you are paying less than $10 per movie. Also, Blu ray is not a dvd.

[@evilspeak5702]

Learn to torrent, and store them on an external hard drive.

[@Dr4g0nDK]

I like the new english format, and content like this. Keep up the good work :)

[@blojosh]

I use 'realorfake4k' when purchasing 4k discs. If they're just 2k upscaled I won't bother.

[@blojosh]

Okay I commented too early.

[@nacthenud]

Personally, I find that good HDR makes WAY more impact than resolution on the worth of the UHD Blu-ray format. Many titles that only have a 2K DI are still well worth the upgrade because of this. Pacific Rim mentioned above is a phenomenal example of this. All the glass and metallic objects throughout look so much more lifelike. City lights against the nighttime darkness. I use this movie to wow friends who question the worth of HDR routinely and it never fails to make the case.

[@blojosh]

nacthenud I'll look into getting Pacific Rim. I only have one 2k upscaled disc, which is It (2017), and I just wasn't impressed. Comparing it to the Blu-ray was depressing because I really couldn't see the difference. Maybe on the balloon and the yellow coat, but it's not enough to pay extra for.

[@nacthenud]

I'll be interested to hear how it turns out for you. On my TV, to my eyes, I notice a dramatic improvement from HDR in many cases, but there are some that you have to really work hard to find the improvement. I haven't seen It, so I can't comment there.

[@joemuis23]

@nacthenud. do you use a qled or oled tv?

[@seanzappulla71]

I found out that 4K Blu-ray Disc hasn’t have region codes on the discs and the player compared to the 1080p Blu-Ray Disc and DVD disc. That researched it online wanting a movie from overseas that isn’t available here in Australia.

[@jasonswartzbaugh3925]

I got it for the Dolby Vision HDR and better colors. It's all about the mastering and how the film was shot. It's definitely a tricky one. For most people streaming will be just fine. For myself I love what Dolby Vision offers and can tell a big difference. However it's not like going from DVD to Blu-ray. With that being said. This will be my last physical media upgrade, period. I'm still upgrading DVD's. Plus there's films that haven't even made it to Blu-ray yet. All about those film rights!

[@Tony-1971]

I agree. Many older movies and tv series' that haven't even made it to blu ray yet and will probably take for ever to do so. I was surprised to learn that Disney's The Black Hole is still not on blu ray. I just bought the recently released Space Precinct dvd collection. They said that it was only possible to release it on dvd and no blu ray will ever be released.

[@jasonswartzbaugh3925]

@@Tony-1971 Amazing guess it boils down to time. Having enough of it to do a proper 4K film scan and get it out onto a Blu-ray.

[@Future-Theory]

In my opinion, 3D Blu-ray still remains the best format. Especially for an immersive experience. If you were lucky enough to pick up a 2016 LG 3D OLED, you're truly experiencing the best the format has to offer. Also, you might want to consider updating your 4K player if you haven't done so already. That Samsung player you're using is like one of the worst on the market next to the LG 970. Consider the Panasonic or Oppo for a more authentic experience.

[@coloniellizardt4191]

FutureTheory Too bad Oppo is leaving the Blu-ray market unfortunately.

[@Future-Theory]

Yep, huge loss to the enthusiast community and a bad sign for the future of physical media.

[@mikestiles3110]

Agree 100%. Unfortunately, I missed out on the 2016 models and making due with my old LG for 3D. But...I will be getting a 3D/4K projector soon. A friend has one and uses his wall and the image is better than most standard TVs. And 3D on a 120" wall space is better than in theaters! (Saw FROZEN 3D and it seemed like it was snowing all around us!) They are also HALF THE PRICE ($1500) of todays panel sets. I'll use the savings to get an actual screen...and it would still be lower than panel sets. May not be as good as OLED but its still incredibly sharp, detailed, and color-accurate.. And that size will make a bigger difference in viewing pleasure anyway.

[@paulmanz6070]

I agree. In 2016 I bought what I think was the last 3D TV model made, or at least, one of them. It was an LG which ticked off a few boxes for me. 3D, 4k, HDR and Dolby Vision. I've bought a few 4k movies, but have not seen a huge ( improvement either. However, the 3D was incredible. It's like they finally perfected it, then canceled it. ...and that's using passive glasses! My old DLP had active glasses which were a royal pain. I'm glad you can still buy European 3Ds, and that they are region-free. I hope that continues for a while. X-Men: Apocolypse in 3D is astonishing. (plus the orchestra conductor in the score is a great friend.)

[@jbela1777]

No, it’s not worth it. The best viewing experience is in a theater within a very large screen. That’s why DVDs still sell. It just doesn’t matter to most people.

[@Mariachi1206]

4k alone isn‘t worth it but the combination 4k on an OLED TV with HDR enabled will open your eyes. You will not want to go to the cinema afterwards, take my word for it.

[@brutal722]

Even with a 55" 4K HDR I find the cinema to be less eyes pleasing. That being said people are also more susceptible to distinguish details with higher resolution as well

[@dpyxl]

Watch new Bladerunner in theater and 4k tv setup.. definitely not worth it

[@michaelangst6078]

If people feel that way they would have 4k projectors... It all depeneds on how much you care and how much $$$$ you are willing to spend.. Most people don't care enough to spend the money.

[@ThisGuyDrives]

Michael Angst because most people live paycheck to paycheck which is why “most people” don’t care.

[@droclinic]

You completely missed the mark. 2 years later 4K movies are a couple bucks more then blu Ray and 4K TVs are the new standard.

[@VSaccount]

droclinic definitely not, blu-ray prices drop down to 8€ really quickly, yet 4k uhd blu-rays are always 20€ or 30€

[@droclinic]

Vertti blu rays are stiller cheaper, but every 4K comes with a blu Ray copy. I have around 50 4K movies and the difference between them is very noticeable. Since I love movies so much a superior picture quality is most have for me. I’d say on average I pay 15 to 20 dollars for each one, amazon has great deals, just have to keep on eye on the prices. Plus I try to buy 4K box sets and that saves a lot of money. I recommend Christopher Nolan movies in 4K, they look incredible, this video does not mention imax shots and completely sweeps hdr under the rug.

[@PANDRIUX]

Hello, I agree with you I think that instead of calling them 4k, they should have delivered us immediately the 2K, how is it not ?! since according to video that is the maximum resolution in the cinemas and how do you sign a movie?

[@derekbrackett1622]

I saw a HUGE difference with my 4k TV when I bought Blue Plant 2 in UHD 4k on my Samsung 4k player, and my Netflix content was way better than before.

[@StaticBlaster]

4k is overhyped. The plus of 4k is I can now buy cheap blurays.

[@GringoXalapeno]

It depends on the individual title some are still just 2k upscaled while others are true 4K especially if they were shot on film because film has a lot of information