NIKKE Kinda Forgot About Favorite Items… And Liberation… And Champion Arena

[@graytoyota1283]

Everyone talks about how SU completely forgot about Champion arena and liberation, but who remembers when we used to be able to create buildings in the outpost?

[@dakimakura1702]

I was wondering about this when I was moving buildings. We gonna get anymore boss?

[@adamcogan211]

Bruh… don’t make me upset :(

[@Arc_Soma2639]

Would be cool to start building things in the reclamation site 01.

[@Edpro01-z5d]

i miss that part so much lol

[@moisesezequielgutierrez]

Does anyone know how to even unlock or get access to the Guest Camp building in the Outpost?

[@MajorSpam]

Don't worry, we still have 20 years to go. Nihilister treasure is going to make her a cope unit for 2 months, then she'll get powercrept.

[@TheThunderMunch]

Sefhi who needs those old, dusty systems when SU is going to cook up 3 new ones for us?

[@cthulhuchan9587]

I’d frankly prefer them working on them in the background and making sure to release them when they’re ready over letting us know before hand and getting pressure to release them sooner than they intended Announcing stuff tends to come with a lot of pressure to deliver and announcing when they’re more or less done implementing features is more conducive to them being more feature complete or at least that’s how I view things Considering how many events they pump out each year, plus skins, plus coming off the back of the amazing 2nd ani event it wouldn’t surprise me that we won’t be getting anything major anytime soon but rather let them cook in the background and seeing what comes around in the future I’m sure seeing GFL2 will also be lighting a fire to try and keep up within the gatcha game space so I’m keeping a relatively optimistic outlook on what the future may hold for NIKKE even if it may take a while to see it come together

[@sesshomaru2005]

-buildings in the outpost? more abilities or something from this buildings. forgotten -rehabilitation system? forgotten -champion arena? forgotten -favourite items the season 2 hasnt ended so there is hope.

[@mainyyt6360]

Excuse me but this is absolutely despicable behaviour going after a small billion dollar indie company, We should hope that the devs get some help/inspiration from Crunchyroll to succeed

[@Nervous_AI]

God bless Crunchyroll

[@lootandwaifus]

I'm sorry I'll reflect on my behavior and change my ways 😭

[@mirethro]

Treasure i think should be january since they went back to 6 month cycles for them and last one came out july, i would wait 1 more month to doom about not getting more treasures. I personally think they should come out more often cuz of the sheer amount of trash units. If they bring out new liberation units they need to change the whole system imo. Champion arena can never come out for all i care, the less pvp the better. Just delete the button and forget about it lol.

[@lootandwaifus]

They should 100% come out more often, but c'est la vie. We'll see in January who gets it, people were saying last time Volume and Mast but those are good enough compared to some of the characters we have kekw

[@Johnnydee212]

@@lootandwaifus this guy. Wants shift up to release more treasures so he can buy more packs xd

[@Mashamazzi]

​@@lootandwaifus I bet whoever gets a treasure will get a gacha skin to go with it lmao

[@Johnnydee212]

Sir why would they tell you? They like to surprise you sir. You should be grateful to shift up for being so kind and trying to get you excited with all their surprises.

[@lootandwaifus]

Shift Up giving us surprises to make us happier actually true 👏👏

[@Tee3001]

The character designs and stories are the only thing keeping me playing now. Its a shame too because Nikke could be so much better, they keep focusing hard on stupid minigames. In the mirror was just too much and I know a ton of dev time went into making it. There is a lot they could make with the systems we have in game currently, they're just not creative.

[@YouTubeDweller8008]

I like this take a lot.

[@B00mt00b]

It takes about 2 months to maxout a favorite item, when not including Solo Raids randomly giving you a bunch (thanks Behemoth

[@Llynethil]

Guilty was meta for shotgun team for a long time tbh, and pretty much a must for gravedigger. Ofcourse she's been powercrept by now, but Guilty was actually really good where she could be used

[@Lightstation_]

They really should release more than just 1 favourite item every 3-4 months. What if people don't have that nikke at LB2 or higher to get to bond 20. When Viper got hers I still only had one copy. I recently pulled 2 more but that's months later. They really should release 2 minimum when they do. So many Nikke's neee the help and at this rate it will take years for everyone who needs it to get one. I honestly think SU forgot all about liberation. I know we haven't had any heratics we would be able to do that with since nihilister but what's stopping them from making new characters for it? Edit: it's been 4 months at least since Viper's collection item. I don't know what they are waiting for. If we don't get one with new years then it will be going on 5 months and that's just ridiculous

[@Witch_of_Gains]

For the record, the release timer for Favorite Items was changed to "3 releases within 6 months" per the July 2024 Dev Notes. If they're gonna stick to their guns, they will NEED to release 3 new Items this January.

[@Lightstation_]

@Witch_of_Gains well we have had 1 release in the last 6 months...so

[@Witch_of_Gains]

@Lightstation_ Yeah, Viper's release is when they swapped it. I can only assume they decided to work on that release as the timeline moving onwards.

[@Lightstation_]

@Witch_of_Gains I have so many MLB and LB2 at this point so I am well prepared. I also have a collection item selector box ready

[@Witch_of_Gains]

@Lightstation_ Very nice man, relatable. Getting the characters isn't something I worry since I've been around for a good while. It's the scarcity of Maintenance Kits lol That's the real reason why they wanna do 3 Items every 6 months imo

[@Mashamazzi]

Shift Up are just trolls, the liberation system was one of the few times i was able to beat my cousin to complete something in a gacha/game (it always felt like he was given extra luck to beat me lmao) and because they stopped adding to it he was able to catch up

[@Arc_Soma2639]

You're absolutely right... there's no defense for SU here...

[@Nervous_AI]

Great story is all what still holding me in game

[@Eugene_es_nk]

100% agree shift up always forget the game mode they first introduced

[@therandompersona]

They should try to incorporate the better mini-games into being normal modes within the game directly, so they can both add new modes and fulfill the mini-game requirement. A tower defense mode that allows a player to bring in Nikkes akin to BTD (the skeleton exists, it would just need to be expanded), or an rpg/rougelike mode where each Nikke has their in-game abilities, stats, and bursts translated into a new context would both offer new modes that people could enjoy, while allowing to content to vary. Having these options of play would give them the variety to keep players' interest, and though it makes adding take longer, it could be compensated by adding things specifically for those modes, which once in do not require as much.

[@hellfiretrain3464]

At least they don´t forget about the gacha outfits, kekw. 🤣

[@octapusxft]

I am not a fan of the Liberation system. It takes a long time and the reward is a power creeped unit. We were also promised a new mode for getting collection item upgrades, I have yet to see that.

[@Yattayatta]

I really like liberation, it feels nice to work for something for a while, I completely agree about the power creep part though, they should bee usable at least when you spent 90 days getting them.

[@octapusxft]

@@Yattayatta I am about 1100 points away from the final one of them (Quency) and I am looking forward to not having to do these tasks again tbh. Especially any tasks that cost crystals

[@HonkHall]

Favorite items were a good idea but horribly implemented. It's nothing but a convoluted roundabout way of patching characters that should just be patched and buffed like any other game. You're essentially forced to sink time and resources into patching the game yourself.

[@ramikpark8387]

Name a gacha game worth something that just buffs units out of nowhere consistently

[@ookiidono4]

They did say 6 a year so it’s difficult to claim they forgot

[@Shendue]

Cue the "It was probably nothing important" meme.

[@ChrisChris-np4wn]

I'm gonna play devil's advocate here and say that I can understand the difficulty of releasing Liberation character, as it require to build an "Chaotic Evil" character that you can transform into "Chaotirc Neutral/Good", so it's quite demanding when you also work on other character for a constant flow of event. For the Treasure system, they said it will be either 1every 2month, or 3 every 6month, Last was on July so we should technically have Three of them in January, so maybe... ? But yeah, the lack of comunication from Shift Up, especially now they are THIS BIG ( top 5 gacha earner btw) is really infuriating :/ Again, I 100% agree they fucked up, as I said I'm just playing devil's advocate, I'm not fanboying. I'm just happy because my favorites Chūnibyō are getting an alt :p

[@bootywarrior6845]

Another Guillotine fan! Respect. Yeah, if we don't get those 3 treasures around then or February then somethings amiss

[@AntonioPereira1986]

they Could be hosnests and say "Hey, there are several bugs in champs arena, treasures not worked according with plans and we had a better idea to make players bypass 160 wall with free SSRs events".

[@annaradford6752]

They have add favourite gift when cendrala and graves (I given them all to cendala as she was only one I got of the two) and 5 plant pots for I think flora but I giving them to other nikkes as I don't want to pull for her. I just giving nikke items that has hearts that I get but never really know how I am other then events. Let me know if I got the gift bit wrong as there are dolls of the commander that could be gifts which I have yet put any of my nikkes.

[@vantheniceguy]

So what about mileage shop? 1 day player here and have 1200+ silver mileage ticket and nothing to spend on :x

[@NoMaDe933]

i get the impresion maybe 3 people work on this game with the speed things get done

[@Mikuyarit]

Dont worry Mihoyo as been reworked the systems on Honkai impact 3rd 500 times and Forget about 500 more things in the game as well, Nikkie is not that bad :p

[@mrharvy100]

It’s annoying they are not doing favorite items way more. It’s a nice method to significantly buff weak Nikkes post release. Lapis is a good example of this

[@moisesezequielgutierrez]

And they also forgot about making a good Elysion Unit

[@orange._.persik4006]

Due to favorite items my viper is now better then any other nikke by 20k+ power (yes i have mlb +5 but that's not the point).

[@Monodexus]

ngl i kinda hope they buff the treasures again

[@valid_5392]

Dokkan has a system similar to Nikke's treasures but much better implemented, you do not need to have the character to get its materials and the unit can be upgraded the same day it is implemented without prior farming. Not only that but every month we receive at least 1 or 2 of these (it could also be that Dokkan is almost 10 years old and has an exaggerated number of units) unlike Nikke where we have half the cast collecting dust and waiting for a treasure. I don't understand it either bro, it's okay that making a treasure in itself does not generate profit but at least they will release a gacha skin to incentivize it but it seems that not even that is enough. Small indie company I guess xD...

[@rinslittlesheepling1652]

Epic Seven did it better than Nikke. They gave small quest line, skill upgrade, and a new sprite for their upgraded characters.

[@TheStonyIsRockSolid]

I play this game now for 2 years. Im Synchro 461, always do my 3% in SR, im in a good union that reaches round about 1% if not below it and i understand the game in its core gameplay. One thing i learned during my 2 years is to have 0 hype for stuff SU introduces. If you get your hopes up for something cool SU is there to destroy that hype you build up. Always take stuff with a huge grin of salt. One day during 5th ani we will get our next treasure item or maybe Liberalio liberatio unit.

[@YouTubeDweller8008]

It could just be that the players just refuse to take risks and explore anything other than a 'meta'. (a.k.a. the 'tried-and-true' units that likely aren't even tried nor true since no one unit or team fits all scenarios). So a vast majority of people haven't explored Frima, Laplace, Exia, Viper etc. and don't like committing to any one unit. There's also this weird thing about using 'the best' units which nobody can actually quantify. I still see people suffering on mother whale because they're under this braindead impression that Red Hood is the superior unit to all situations.

[@phantom54000]

This is true to some extent, I passed mother whale with Alice Maxwell destroying the core before the shield and the rest of the fight was easy(I was below the recommend cp) that's I agree with I noticed this a lot in manufacture towers when forced to use specific units that they are not that bad as people think BUT you know that upgrading gear and skill materials takes alot of time to collect it's impossible to build every character you want to test especially if you are not a day 1 player We need more ways to get skill upgrade materials

[@YouTubeDweller8008]

@@phantom54000 I totally agree with your take on manuals and gear.

[@ChrisChris-np4wn]

The issue is that it take a LOT of material to actually have a unit ready competitively ( because you won't compare a fully overload geared 10-10-10 unit to even a gold (level 5) gear 5-5-5 unit. Sure You can go for a middle ground of Overload lvl 1 7-7-10 , but it's hard to go any lower to start comparing really. And since it take a lot of material and therefore time to raise to that level of build, and there is no actual viable way to "reset" this (overload gear are linked to the character, Skill Reseter are limited and comes rarely) , then you don't actually want to comit to something that you're not sure is viable. As a semi-casual but day 1 player, I wish I could play with more unit, and I try some things that work because I already built my Guillotine character for example. But will I try to build a Yuni to MAYBE find something viable in campaign while I could spend all those mats into one of the proven Top Tier unit that I haven't build yet ? No. I wont take that risk. If we get more material (especially the skills one) or at very least the ability to freely reset the skills so we could always try things and get our skills exp back if it doesn't work, I think more people would be willing to try the Tier 2-3 characters.

[@bootywarrior6845]

@@ChrisChris-np4wn This. I'm not trying to waste mats on funny "what ifs" if I don't already have enough meta teams geared for raids and story content. I'm close to the point where I can swallow "wasting" mats on characters that I like that aren't SSS SS or even S or A rank but damn if it didn't take like all year to get to that point. Just for new meta units to drop to then take priority AGAIN.

[@stanysk]

Building bottom tier units is a serious waste of materials and can hinder your progress for months.

[@ssrhonoka]

I agreee

[@TinyRunge]

I love your content sefhi but I'm disappointed on how you say that SU haven't said anything in regards to the favorite item system when they have. As a matter of fact you pull up the developer note that says plain as day they're changing the cycle from 3 months to 6 months meaning the next batch of favorite Items is due in January. Do better bro

[@lootandwaifus]

??? They started with 1 schedule. Immediately changed it. Then moved from weak units to story related units with gacha skins for the treasure. Now we're waiting to see what they do in January. My point still stands as far as I'm concerned

[@TinyRunge]

@lootandwaifus and my point on the communication stands, you didn't acknowledge that they DID communicate the change

[@fernanalonsogonzalezpino7861]

a thousand videos of copium...damn

[@rinslittlesheepling1652]

Nikke devs are doing almost nothing except gacha skins and new limiteds for a cash flow. People barely talk about it. The First Descendant devs are constantly cooking good food even if that didn't bring them money (they are merging same skins for different characters into one and refunding extra purchases money in season 2). And all people do is talk smack about TFD, expecting it to have more features than Warframe in just 6 months, despite game doing so much better than Warframe was in it's first 2 years. Gaming community sucks balls.

[@foujiz]

2nd anniversary brought absolutely nothing new to the game. No new mechanics, no new game modes, no new ways to farm materials. UR is still a race against time forcing you to wake up in the night and not a way for people to optimize their damage. Worse, the nature of the new SI WIDENS the gap between new and older players by providing older players with more rocks, allowing for more optimized equipment for SR. Liberation, the only incentive to play long term, has been abandoned. I don't even think it has to be reworked, it just has to EXIST. You don't have enough material (equipment + skill books+ doll material) to experiment with new units. The events are mostly filler trash with no importance in the world. The only saving grace of Nikke as this moment is its characters (and they veered off from cool characters that could be believed were soldiers to thirst bait AL Tier stuff), and SOME of its story. Gameplay wise? It doesn't hold a candle to the (serious) competition.

[@YouTubeDweller8008]

Solo Raid is pretty much all I ever look forward now, not going to lie. It's entertaining enough to keep me deeply engaged along with the story. But, what do I have to do in between SR and New Story? Not much except grinding stuff for gems. They really should stop putting so much into the miscellaneous, fleeting content that doesn't last or sustain itself.

[@ramikpark8387]

1. Ofc 2nd anni didnt bring anything new because the Collab brought in both Overclock and Anomaly Interception which was 1-2 months before anni. I dont know why u thought u cooked with that line. 2. If ur waking up in the middle of the night to do UR, that is ur own fault. There are 24 hours in the day and some communication can solve that or just jump to the battle 3. New SI only requires Ch 16 to unlock. Even getting 1 shotted by the Anomaly Interceptions is better than doing all the previous ones. This is something known as progression. 4. I agree with u on Liberation. Just don't release garbage and we are good to go. 5. That is how YOU see events. Others see it as a way to get to know the featured character/squad on the banner and it fleshes out some existing ones. Neither are wrong views but If you really pay attention, most of them actual do expand on the world itself in some way.

[@foujiz]

​@@ramikpark8387 1. Never use cook in a sentence as a human being. I don't care if SI can't manage their schedule right, Overclock and SI aren't even new game modes, they're variations. 2. No, UR is a race to the finish line, meaning that the top of the leaderboard is the fastest. You don't have 24 hours, you need to do sub 2hours to be in top 50, thus you have to wake up in the middle of the night. 3. So? I'm talking about differences between players. Players that can clear SI lvl7 have 26% more chance to get a rock on the new SI X3, every single day on Kraken. (and newer players won't even farm Kraken, they will farm the rest for equipment) That is an IMMENSE difference. If you're progressing twice as fast, but everyone around you progresses three times as fast, then you're now slower, not faster. 4. Mid would be enough, yes. 5. Of course they expend it. Just not in a meaningful or interesting way. Writing, like most other art, is not subjective. There are good and bad ways to do it. Nikke's side events are extremely poorly written most of the time. Flora's event being a very good example. The fact that Missilis paid for an underground garden, without it being used for meaningful research, or opening to public already is absolutely ridiculous, stupid, and doesn't even warrant me going further. If your story's PREMISCE makes no sense, don't write it. "Getting to know" the story's characters is the bond story's job (most of them are just as bad as the rest). They're not your waifus. They're character in a story. If they are in a story, they need to have a role to play in said story, otherwise, they serve no purpose and shouldn't be written in. Nikke had the potential of being something more than it is narrative wise, but it's been more than mid for a year now, and it's quite sad to see.