Nikola Jokic Has a Legitimate Chance At Becoming the GOAT (here's how)

[@casualfan-m5x]

JOKIC CARRYING A WHOLE FRANCHISE IS A GOAT LEVEL DIFFICULTY 🐐🐐🐐

[@Mptappin12]

Yeah, I want Tatum LuKa or SGA to win so bad but there’s no way they’re winning if Jokic continues to average 28/13/11 there’s just no way, especially if he’s going to do a carry job.

[@stanleyrogouski]

Hakeem carried the Rockets to back-to-back championships.

[@randypenajimenez3893]

Facts. Another case was Kawhi Leonard but the f... injuries ruined him.

[@blurplebear8573]

@@stanleyrogouski No he had Drewler for the second one so it wasn't a carry on both years. The first one definitely was though and it was carried by OJ Simpson.

[@zzzvain9710]

@@DoNotReanimate MJ not better than Wilt. Erving is best player to watch whos best dunker and layup. Iverson changed NBA now even centers wanna dribble like him. Curry evolve the game.

[@Greenbean-g7c]

Jokic DEFINITELY can win the scoring title if he TRULY wanted to

[@novood1921]

Like bron

[@sp33.9]

jokic is fully serious abt his accomplishments. he wants to be the best, he just thinks hes cool with this wannabe nonchalance. hes great, but its not like he doesnt care abt being great

[@Mitke420]

he might get it this season

[@6stringgroover]

@@sp33.9are you familiar with the tells for cognitive dissonance?

[@clampgod4900]

@@sp33.9then why does he sit out when the game is out of reach or why doesn’t he stat pad against the worst teams in the league. The games where he had took least shots last season were against Pistons Wizards and Hornets. Who else even does that?

[@la_chistera]

We can talk about numbers, but there is one thing that cannot be in statistics: he just manages the game: everything in the game goes his way: his own team, but also the other team. I am just amazed when I see how he just dominates everything in the court. I wish him the best of the best in his career, as it is absolutely amazing watching him play

[@The4No]

Mission: Mention Nikola Jokic without bringing up the Taco Bell commercial - Impossible Difficulty

[@emgsports777]

Jokic would only become the goat by accident. He's just not gonna ask for "help" or ask to be traded to win as many rings as possible. He don't give af 🤣 💯

[@Mptappin12]

That’s cool and all but if we’re going to be relying on Jamal Murray to play at all NBA level in the playoffs again he might only win one or two

[@mig6pie]

Word

[@Zemlja_je_ravna]

He cares but he don't want to move around. Also he is grateful to Nuggets for picking him.

[@kylerey09]

FR. Nuggets front office needs to step up. Get this man another all-star or two and the rings will immediately follow.

[@buckisz]

How do you know he's not asking behind close doors? stop the cap and the glaze.

[@yoshikigrg8]

Yes he is the greatest big man passing of all time but i also truly believe that he is straight up one of the greatest passers of all time. #Joker 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Anthonydu01630]

He’s definitely a Top 10 arguably Top 5 passer ever imo it’s Magic, Lebron, Jokic, Doncic, Cp3, Bird, Nash, Kidd, Harden, Westbrook, Trae Young

[@mja4wp]

he's a top 10 all time passer for sure.

[@clampgod4900]

@@Anthonydu01630He is top 5 with Magic, Nash, Cp3 and mby Kidd.

[@acheeblessyou]

yeap. i think his height and length gives him an edge over some of the smaller players

[@boydriceisawesome2520]

@@acheeblessyou its actually the opposite its easier for smaller players to pass to taller ones...

[@NikolaMladenovic-d6q]

Space Jam 3 will star Jokic!

[@TheMilitiaGuy]

It will star VW b/c he can fly from the FT line and jam it.

[@NikolaMladenovic-d6q]

@@TheMilitiaGuy Volkswagen?

[@djangoropa9860]

@@NikolaMladenovic-d6q hilarious 🤣

[@Zemlja_je_ravna]

Hope so. Imagine start of the movie, Jokic at the stable house drinking soda and they are trying to wake him up to play basketball.

[@dannycarlow8204]

The reality is that it will probably star Bronny. Maybe CGI can help him get a bucket.

[@blankeon6613]

All Jokic needs is 1 or 2 more rings.

[@nicolmanninc3578]

Huh nah that's crazy he needs to either win out during his prime years so 4+ rings or dedicate his life to the game like Kareem or Bron did and stamp his name all over the record books

[@blankeon6613]

@@nicolmanninc3578 His name is already all over the record books. It is also a silly comparison to make, Lebron and Kareem were playing for the Lakers on teams stacked with All-stars. Without Jokic, the Nuggets are a bottom league team.

[@nicolmanninc3578]

@@blankeon6613 fam I thought we were talking all-time cause Bron was doing exactly the same carry job in Cleveland as Jokic like you need good teammates to win chips, like there's a reason Joker won his first ring when Murray was playing like a star player in the playoffs and they had a top 3 starting lineup and idk if joker is gonna play long enough to run up the record books tho he seems like he'll retire in his early/mid 30s with 100s of millions and dedicate rest of his life to horses and racing low-key.

[@bdleo300]

not with this team. jordan and lebron had much better team(mates)

[@michaelgieseler2799]

@@nicolmanninc3578fans and media need to realize that winning 5+ championships is going to be damn near impossible nowadays with second apron restrictions. There is a reason why there have been six straight seasons with a new championship dating back to the stacked warriors…

[@StreetRoyaltyRecord]

Just needs another ring and one major trophy with national team and thats it. He's already a top 10 player of all time and considering where he comes from its already an amazing achievement.

[@AngelValdez-mr3fq]

You don't know shit about basketball. Jokic has never beaten a 50 win win team in the playoffs and never will. He is a fucking bum.

[@geordiejones5618]

You can't be in the GOAT argument with less than 3. That's why Wilt and Hakeem never get GOAT talk. Bird's 3 MVPs, 2 FMVPs and 3 rings over 5 finals runs is the bare minimum. He's also got a COTY and EOTY so you could argue 4 rings is what you need to crack into that realm of Russell, Kareem, Bird, Magic, Duncan, Kobe and Bron. And 4 rings isn't even enough sometimes, because Shaq and Steph are never getting GOAT talk.

[@jtizzleforlife]

@@geordiejones5618 as a nuggets fan since birth 1993 and lover of jokic I agree. I personally believe he is in the category of steph, both once in a lifetime players, however I do agree you need 3-4 to even be in the conversation. I am however living in the moment and loving every bit of this minus his team not growing with him.

[@nikolalatinovic1232]

He is there where he is exactly because of where he comes from ;)

[@geordiejones5618]

@@jtizzleforlife yeah I mean I do like Jokic he works hard and he's incredibly unique all time. If he can lead a couple more campaigns his legacy is gonna be truly special.

[@mattohayre730]

Lebron had to join wade and bosh to win his first ring. Jokic took a team of 0 allstars to a 16-4 championship. He's already greater.

[@borisfrlic]

LeFraud is a bum. Not even top 15

[@lolno6975]

Jordan had to wait for a hall of famer to join the Bulls to even make a finals, let alone win 1, and needed another hall of famer to win the other 3 rings Jokic better than both I guess 🤷‍♂️

[@zzzvain9710]

@@lolno6975 olajuwon won alone 1994, jack sikma 1979 won without any 75 member. SIKMA IS 500X BETTER LEADER THAN JORDAN. ALSO BASKETBALL NOT PPG CAUSE ANYONE IS BETTER SCORER AND CAN AVERAGE 35 PPG THAN JORDAN BUT ONLY REAL GOAT WILT CAN AVERAGE 50 AND ADD 25 RPG. JORDAN IS NOBODY

[@Mptappin12]

Are we just gonna conveniently ignore the fact that Jamal Murray? Was averaging like 30 points. Everybody was playing on fire? He had a deep roster Stop acting like he was playing with bums

[@Mptappin12]

@@borisfrlic LeBron is better than Jordan bro

[@Leptyzz]

And he was also the biggest draft steal of all time. What a story this man has. A true ugly duckling, underdog’s tale.

[@matthewmckenzie8921]

He could be the best player ever, but I doubt he could be the GOAT. GOAT requires achievements that I doubt the nuggets front office will be able to help Jokic achieve, plus he is probably not the type to ask for a trade.

[@EntertainingRunner-vd3bn]

So what ur saying is a Player is never truly in control of trying to become a GOAT? This makes no sense to me, which is why I prefer to think of it as who is the best player in their prime.

[@matthewmckenzie8921]

@@EntertainingRunner-vd3bn The generally accepted definition of greatness includes team accolades like rings. I doubt Jokic will win more than 2 or 3 max in his career, which people will always compare to Jordan's 6, despite current Jokic arguably being a better play than peak Jordan.

[@mlnxzyjsj765]

Original pronounce is Jokic = Yokich

[@JakeKoenig]

Most NBA fans will NEVER give Jokic the GOAT spot, even if he somehow wins 5 or 6 titles and a few more MVPs. And we all know why. Same reason they try everything to keep him from winning MVP awards when he's the best player by far. I hope Jokic can win enough titles to at least make it a legit GOAT conversation, and to see the usual suspects get triggered by it.

[@danielday3374]

Forget hypotheticals. Stick to what we know. Realistically he’ll never win another championship on the Nuggets so the extra race baiting is irrelevant.

[@marceloasensiofilho3833]

Jokic does not have a scoring title because he is not interested in that, like at all

[@Zemlja_je_ravna]

Yet he leads in combined points created.

[@drewjn]

They wont allow him to be a part of the debate if the Nuggets don't get another championship. He already dragging the hell out of the team toward wins but two max contract teammates playing subpar is screwing him. So I can only hope he gets a couple more rings and that the team gets itself together. It also doesn't help that once he retires, he likely wont personally try to argue his case for goat; in comparison to Lebron creating clutch sports and paying people to praise himself. Without more clear accolades and the color of his skin, they will do him dirty in the same way that a lot of people still pretend Larry Legend isn't in any conversations.

[@CastafioreOnYoutube]

I predict Jokic will end up similarly to Ichiro's legacy in baseball. Guys who were so dedicated to the craft of the game and every facet of it, but with no drive for accolades or media fame. Guys who will spend their whole career or most of it in one place simply because they were devoted to the team and not because they were a winning team. Guys who will leave countless records and statistical anomalies but who's temperament will leave them just short of what their peaks could have been. Guys who people will write off because they were outsiders with largely unflashy and unselfish ways of playing. Guys who will be argued over whether they are the GOAT (Jokic) or the Hit King (Ichiro) which will never end. My hopes are for Jokic to be able to stay true to his nature but still be able to reach his peaks...

[@beanie3427]

Jokic is the ALL TIME LEADER in career WS/48, BPM, and PER and honestly aside from Michael Jordan being somewhat close in PER, nobody else is even particularly close to him anywhere else. And even more insane, the gap between him and everyone else is growing every single year because Jokic's current play is outpacing his career averages by quite a bit. On top of all that, he is the all time leader in TS% among players who averaged at least 15 points in their career (He is 3rd behind Gobert and Deandre Jordan for ALL qualified players regardless of ppg). Steph is the only person within a percentage point of him, although KAT and KD are with 2% of him. Anyone who thinks Jokic isn't at least a top 10 player of all time either doesn't know basketball, they don't personally like him or his play style, or they severely underrate his defense and think that drags his unprecedented offensive contributions down enough to justify having him lower. But I think all those reasons are nuts. He is an amazing person, his play style is beautiful, and on the whole he has been a positive defender in his career he just doesn't do it in a traditional way. In fact, there have been stretches where he has been a borderline dominant defender, but again not in the way that we traditionally think of dominance. He doesn't swat shots, jump out of the building, or jump out to guard the perimeter, but he's almost impossible to back down in the post, he has elite positioning, he is elite at preventing entry passes, he has elite hands, he's an elite defensive rebounder, and he is also without a doubt the best time waster in the history of basketball (just watch any Nuggets game when they are winning in the 4th Q bc its hilarious), which often prevents teams from mounting comebacks. Does he need SOME help defensively, sure I'll grant that. You need to surround him with a couple good point of attack defenders and maybe a guy who is serviceable at rim protection (AG or PWat). If he didn't have those things he would have holes you could expose. But in the proper context, he is good defensively. I clearly have my biases about Jokic, but I didn't start out a Nuggets fan. I had no reason to like them or him. But when I first watched him his rookie year, I fell in love with him as a player. I didn't think his ceiling was THIS high, but I saw part of the vision. And personally, I think he has grown into one of the top 5 best basketball talents of all time. Maybe not the "Greatest", if you want to separate those two ideas, because he hasn't accumulated all the accomplishments yet but he's getting there. Honestly, the only players I would clearly take over him are Jordan and Lebron. Then you get into Kareem, Magic, Duncan territory and I'd take Jokic over at least one of them.

[@ljutko7]

29 years at that time not 28. But all the other stuff is mind-blowing and he is best on the 🌎 for 5 years now!!!! 🎉

[@jmart0820]

making those around u a better player is the no.1 criteria on my goat list

[@HFH-Official]

I had the chance recently to see him play in person against Toronto and then OKC. Let me tell you. It's one thing to see him on TV and another to see him live. I have seen several players play live. Duncan, Giannis, Lebron, Wade, etc. But I have never seen a player like Jokic. Seeing him live confirmed what I knew all along. Jokic might be the 2nd most skilled player ever behind Larry Bird. The man is incredible and makes me appreciate the sport more.

[@justinrodgers1485]

You know what I love about these Nikola Jokic videos talking about how amazing and dominant5 he's been? It's that every time someone posts one, he does something EVEN MORE amazing a couple days later, meaning someone out there has to create another one!

[@zaldy9034]

So far he is the goat and face of NBA

[@milosstefanovic6603]

You cant be a passer if you are not extremely dangerous shooter and add to that super court vision, he is at 95% to be a next GOAT

[@ziginaigra]

magic couldnt shoot what are u talking about + goat debate was over 20+years ago

[@shazaalala28]

@@ziginaigramagic played with kareem and he played 40 years ago.

[@ziginaigra]

@@shazaalala28 so what?my point is u dont to be good shooter to be amazing passer

[@zzzvain9710]

@@ziginaigra GOAT Talk was over when Chamberlain said to jordan during 50 goat ceremony u need refs and david stern to soften all rules so u could score

[@ziginaigra]

@@zzzvain9710 yoyo mj couldnt score lol

[@MugiwaraNoDeji]

every year jokic shocks me, honestly ever since game 1 of western conference finals vs lakers, I fully submitted to his greatness. It seemed like the nuggets were just on another level than the lakers. Like it was just nasty work. I always knew jokic was good, but in that game it was clear Jokic was clearly going to continue to dominant and clearly the best player by a longshot!

[@ivandj707]

Jokic is in the top 10 maybe even 5, and as a 42 pick it seems so incredible that it definitely deserves to be made into a movie.

[@goastlyarrowplays]

Top five is crazy, he definitely has a chance to join the top 5, but not yet.

[@NationKiwi]

He's currently top 20. If he wins another FMVP, he's top 10. He's not quite yet remotely close to top 5. You putting him above MJ, LeBron, Kareem, Magic, Bird or Kobe?

[@MantaJoe2193]

⁠@@NationKiwihe’s Better than Kobe

[@thereaper3740]

@@MantaJoe2193he is objectively not better than kobe smh

[@MantaJoe2193]

@@thereaper3740 he is Kobe was a ball hog and selfish while jokic is the most unselfish superstar ever and is more complete than Kobe ever was

[@claytonroberts1622]

They'll never let him get another MVP

[@loficasualchill888]

They must if he keeps pushing this amazing stats entire regular season.

[@randypenajimenez3893]

He is four times MVP, we all know it. He will get his fifth this season.

[@claytonroberts1622]

@@loficasualchill888 idk if Kendrick Perkins wants to start another race war

[@billwoods7578]

He's gonna win another this year.

[@aurelian2668]

​@@claytonroberts1622 probably gonna do that or xenophobia, now europe vs usa

[@buddyVuk]

Great video. I agree 1000%. There is a chance if they fire their GM

[@ljtowers5161]

Jokic is still young and he's easily a top 15 player of all time already. He can climb to top 10 if he wins another chip with a FMVP and MVP.

[@justsada]

modern jam --- thank you on behalf of Serbia .. finally someone with a normal view of success !!!! 👌🏻👍🏻🤝

[@ManuOviedo-d6b]

Jokic is already better than Lebron!

[@kedrprao]

2021-2024 is Jokic is better than 21-24 LeBron but all-time? LeBron much better. Jokic is yet to reach 2012-2020 LeBron level

[@drmaccify]

@@kedrprao:he reach only longevity is longer of Lebron just google stat and Jokić 2023 10 TD break Wilt 60 years old record of 7 TD

[@Zemlja_je_ravna]

It's close but Jokic is better. Jokic have highest PER right now, and his offense is more productive even more than Jordan's. Jokic even now have the best playoff run of all time.

[@cafelatte1124]

@@kedrprao lol LeBum achieved his status with flops, ref favoritism, team hopping, and media propaganda, effectively taking all the credit for winning and blaming teammates for all his faults.

[@zzzvain9710]

@@Zemlja_je_ravna PER is useless stast. And u r deranged. Jokić has no defense and play in era where pass was easier than evee cause bigs must switch outside so traffic and inside paint like flooe stretch makes easy for the ball to goes wherever he wants. U cant pass like that if Duncan and Admiral stay near rim around paint.

[@peakviewmusic]

It is great time to be watching the most amazing player in the decade.

[@aleksamihajlovic2256]

I enjoyed the video, but how are you gonna make a full video on a player and not learn to pronounce his name correctly. Its simply not the "J" sound, its the "Y" sound. My god I just heard you say Jo Kick and I cant man. I really cant -.-

[@ernestoharo8474]

after 3 MVPs you’d think people would’ve heard his name enough to know how to pronounce it correctly lol

[@jesiah391]

It’s spelled with a J

[@borsuck13]

@@jesiah391it’s cuz it’s not in English 🤦‍♂️

[@GodspokenYT]

He said it like once or twice and then he started saying it with a Y. You’re annoyed for absolutely no reason.

[@Himmyjewett]

No one cares

[@Pando0678]

Jokic would be even better if THE NUGGETS FRONT OFFICE HAD A FUNCTIONING FRONTAL LOBE

[@ethanstrong]

Nikola Jokic will be the GOAT.

[@Ataraxia_Atom]

Its actually amazing what we're witnessing. And to me the craziest thing is Jokic acts like its nothing. Hes so nonchalant about literally everything he does, completely unfazed

[@Zemlja_je_ravna]

humble

[@BobAustin-x1f]

MJ was my fav, i was tripping i was him at the court as kid, but he just delivered his 30 ,40 points a game, spectacular points though.. aside had couple of assists and rebs, but had never influenced the game of a team as Jokic does, he had almost 40 pts 20 reb 20 assists almost 3 consecutive games. So he was involved in 80,90 points out of 110.120. That is insane and had never been seen . Michael never had such an impact on Bulls since he had Pippen, Rodman and other beasts delivering. Look at Joks and MJ stats if you don't believe, compare them and not knowing MJ you would have thought Jokic is 30 times better player than MJ. But we saw MJ and we know that his N1 status will be locked for long, but Jokic is literally running towards to override him

[@parkerstroh6586]

No way, Jokic is my absolute favourite, but he’ll go down like Shaq not Mike

[@Airestotle09]

The best part of Jokic’s story is the fact that his name wasnt even called in the Draft. Just shown under a Taco Bell commercial. Thats the stuff of legend

[@Gfactor1922]

It’s crazy that this is an AI voice

[@Cardb33]

I'm a Spurs fan but I'm also a huge Jokic fan. His selfless, team first, quiet yet deadly character really reminds me of Tim Duncan. They're very different players in terms of how they play but I see a lot of the same principals and mentality in Jokic that Tim Duncan possessed. I'd love to see Jokic end up with something like 3 rings, 4 MVP awards, 3 Finals MVP awards while becoming the all-time triple doubles leader. It would be incredibly hard to argue that he's not top 7-10 all-time at that point. The top 6 is incredibly difficult to crack. Jordan, LeBron, Kareem, Magic, Duncan, Kobe is my personal top 6. To crack that he'd have to win 5 rings or have 4 rings (along with the Finals MVP's) and 5 MVP awards. Cracking the 7-10 spots would be hard enough with Larry Bird, Steph, Wilt and Shaq being my personal top 7-10. I could see him having a career on par with those guys by the time it's all said and done but to go higher than that it would take a GOAT type run. Then again we're talking about Jokic here which means anything and everything is possible.

[@lukacalov1988]

I agree bur he needs more titles Imo if he wins 2 more He d be top 5 for sure

[@ljutko7]

😮 with no all stars, hahahahahahahaha sure. He's the only one of the greats wo all stars all carrier brooo

[@lukacalov1988]

@@ljutko7 ?

[@shazaalala28]

@@ljutko7ok, and? hakeem in 1995 was the best title run of all time, and he’s not even considered top 10. it takes more than one championship to be considered the goat.

[@drmaccify]

@@shazaalala28: but Hakeem only one MVP Joker can reach 4-6 MVP that is different!!!

[@Joeboblarry1]

@@shazaalala28lots of people consider Hakeem top 10 lmao

[@Speegsy]

One thing about mj and lebron is they’ve done things that are unique to them. Jordan had unreal scoring numbers, defense, 6 rings 6 finals mvp; Lebron has his records and numbers. What jokic is doing is unique to him as well. Nobody has ever done or played like he has. In terms of offensive bigs he’s probably the best ever. This is cream of the crop talent and intelligence.

[@Gixsir]

Drafted during a Taco Bell commercial is the wildest draft statement ever

[@rimimimimimimimim4170]

he's legit the best player in history at this point being real...

[@aubreydrakegrahamthe1st]

Do you mean he has had the best prime?

[@GodspokenYT]

Jokic is the most overrated player in history. There’s no way yall are saying he’s top 10 rn lol:

[@patchpasch7147]

This video ageing like fine wine.

[@gametime2473]

Jokic is starting to look like Barry Sanders, an all time great player with an organization that sucks.

[@eloyzamora4461]

Terrible comp... nuggets have been to two WCF and a championship.

[@gametime2473]

@@eloyzamora4461 Yeah, it was hyperbolic but in the NBA a great player has far more influence than in football due to the game fielding 5 players as opposed to 22. The team around Jokic would be a lottery team if he was replaced with an average center. Denver's front office has done a TERRIBLE job and should be fired.

[@Tone_Loc303]

As a diehard Nuggets fan I always enjoy a great Jokic video. It drove me crazy when they tried to spin the whole stat padding narrative. There's a ridiculous number of games where Jokic was one rebound or assist away from a triple double. Games where he sat most of the 4th quarter with plenty of time left to notch another triple double if he wanted to.

[@carey951]

He's already the GOAT

[@korpiman]

what a great video 🙌

[@mikivatrogasac4671]

9:29 naaah, credit card vertical is crazy 😂

[@PetarZorić-k3b]

There's MJ and there are others, among others can't say anyone is better than Nikola (I'm talking about talent, not achievement) , i understand he's not there yet, but he has at least 4 or 5 years of his prime left, i wish he can win one more championship (despite Nuggets FO doing everything they can to stop him) and take his place at Mount Rushmore of NBA. I don't see him surpassing MJ, but he can be equal to greats like LBJ, Kobe, Duncan, Kareem, Shaq, Bird, Dream and Steph and doing that with no freaking all star Nuggets is truly unbelievable. Luka is next.

[@Zemlja_je_ravna]

He is beyond there already. He surpassed MJ. He had a best playoff run in the NBA history. That can't be deleted, and many years are to come.

[@danielday3374]

⁠@@Zemlja_je_ravna Best playoff run? Hakeem was putting up like 30 pts, 10 rebs, 4 asts, 4 blocks and 2 stls at his peak. Monstrous offensive and defensive dominance against MVP calibre forwards and centers. We ain’t even talking about Peak Shaq, MJ or LeBron yet.

[@Zemlja_je_ravna]

@@danielday3374 It's not a secret, Jokic has best playoff run of all time.

[@peterruskov]

LeBum is not even top 10, what are you smoking 🤣🤣🤣

[@Noifsnobutsnococonuts-rj4kk]

Ragebait

[@edwardwood3622]

@@Noifsnobutsnococonuts-rj4kkthis is what happens when parents ignore their children.

[@Noifsnobutsnococonuts-rj4kk]

@@edwardwood3622 fr

[@philip863]

Has this video been made before? I swear I’m experiencing so much Deja vu watching this

[@alanadrienne8870]

Jokic, Ginobili and Rodman are the greatest second round picks in nba history. Imagine if those three had gotten a chance to play together! Omg The others below that tier of second round picks are Green, English, Marc Gasol, Danny Green (the very image of 3&D with his many rings), Micheal Redd, Middleton. NBA2K needs to put that team in, and call them the knights of the 2nd realm.

[@slobberkissintl3548]

Mark Price was second round i think

[@Noname-ni1dy]

Willis Reed was better than all of the players you named, aside from Jokic. He was a second round pick.

[@homerdough5389]

Love Jokic. He seriously has an argument for OFFENSIVE Goat but come on, defense is a thing and although he’s super smart defensively, he’s not st the level of peak Jordan/Kareem/Lebron

[@InstantGiblets]

You did Baylor dirty with that picture of him.

[@neilfordan]

Curry, Jokic, Horry are my goats 🐐

[@Bozha_Kapetanovic91]

The best player in NBA now.

[@ratfeatherstew]

Jokic is having an insane season so far leading the league in rebounds (13.7) & assists (11.7) while scoring nearly 30 points/game on elite efficiency. Just bonkers.

[@roytjm1]

Joker didn't have to leave his team to win a championship 😅 like some who crys a River lol that he needs help

[@thebuilder2018]

lebron won a ring with the team he came into the league with dickhead

[@thebuilder2018]

and took them to 4 straight finals LOL

[@markogjorgiev4912]

@@thebuilder2018 in the weakest eastern conference ever lol

[@moisesrodriguez3685]

@@markogjorgiev4912 so the Pacers with PG, Bulls with Rose, Raptors team with Lowry, derozan, Celtics with IT all suck right? what kind of logic is that

[@moisesrodriguez3685]

who knows if the nuggets are gonna waste his prime years then he could leave.

[@c99kfm]

Wilt, on bum knees and during his final seasons in the league, blocked consecutive skyhooks from a prime Kareem. Wilt never stepped down as GOAT, the NBA just taught the fans to overlook him in the conversation. To quote the Big Dipper, "Michael [Jordan], just remember: When you played, they changed all the rules to make it easier for you to dominate. When I played, they changed all the rules to make it harder for me." Jordan had no response.

[@GoranM-v2o]

Jokic has a higher PER and more triple double than Jordan . I think jokic is the best of all time ,he even makes Westbrook play good

[@athrinean]

Carmelo's Number 15 for Denver will never be retired. 😂

[@donnyburg8117]

It's crazy how russ and jokic are playing

[@Sr.Princip]

Thank you ! ❤

[@AfricanAmericansInParis]

Glazing rn

[@dado1400]

4x mvp coming !!

[@thomaswalsh1715]

Lew Alcindor never out did Wilt Chamberlain. Did He ever average 50 points a game in a season. Did he ever average 25 rebounds a game in a season. Wilt Chamberlain did both in one season. He got 55 rebounds in one game against Bill Russell. He led the league in assists one season, never fouled out of a game in his whole career, and averaged over 48 minutes a game for an entire season. Probably blocked more shots than Russell and Alcindor combined

[@Himmyjewett]

Wilt averaged 50 and lost

[@thomaswalsh1715]

@ Ted Williams never won a championship . Does that make yogi Berra better than him

[@canttakeanymore]

I completely agree with your assessment, but the GOAT debate will never include Jokic with the current 'journalists' who cover the NBA and decide these things for us. They complain he is slow, but he's not, he's smooth, and he doesn't waste anything (energy, time, his teammates, etc). He is absolutely the best at putting up superstar/All-Star numbers WHILE making everyone around him better. For a big man, sure, but for anybody: he is one of the best passers both in seeing the opportunity and completing it that I've ever seen.

[@Bapa_nada]

Lebron needed 8 more years compared to MJ to even start a conversation about goat, Jokic i think doesn't care about being goat (same with luka i don't see them forcing their body to play in nba until 43)

[@scamlikely7814]

If he wins MVP and finals MVP again he’s my goat idc 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@Struwwel2]

Get that man a better supporting cast.

[@Nycx_jona]

Honestly bro Jokic is gonna finish top 5 all time in my ranking.

[@NikolaIvanovic-pu7hg]

Maybe. To me, the GOAT is Bill Russell. Than MJ and Lebron. Than Duncan, Magic, Bird... I really think that Jokic can be top 5.

[@masternetex]

nba will not let it happen joker isnt trademark like bron

[@daltonfarris]

Someday jokic will be called a plumber

[@NikolaIvanovic-pu7hg]

Approximately 50 years after his retirement. Just like Bill Russell. Jordan will be plumber in 2053. You can already see what people will be talking about Jordan's era very soon. The same things that are said about the 60s. But that's nonsense. Great players are great players regardless of era. That's why I think.... Russell is n1, Jordan in n2 and Lebron is 3rd

[@amazonite-patricklara1816]

The 2011 and 2014 finals effectively removed Lebron from the GOAT conversation. His free throw shooting does not help his case either along with his flopping. The Basketball GOAT does not choke in the finals. Lebron is not even above Kareem.

[@borisfrlic]

LeBum isnt even above Moses Malone or Dr J.

[@calvinsimpson1301]

Every part of this is nonsense. Considering he also has some of the greatest finals performances ever, your logic is flawed. He also went against two of the biggest dynasties in the history of the nba for 80% pf his finals and still managed 4 rings in his career. He has the most game winners all time and his playoff numbers are substantially better than regular season. Much like everyone ignores Kobe AND KD getting swept by that same 2011 Mavs team-in series they played terrible in-its clear this is simply a bias and not a logical opinion. Unless of course the conference finals the defending champ Lakers lost to Dirk also takes Kobe out of the conversation

[@borisfrlic]

@@calvinsimpson1301 They're only great dynasties because he lost to them you moron. You know the other boys didn't have these great dynasties stopping them? Because they WERE the dynasty because they had the best player leading their team. If he was the greatest player ever, no way he doesn't get a single game off the Spurs, then loses to them again later in his absolute prime. The Spurs would have 3 or 4; Lebron would have 5. You're coping and deflecting left right and center. The RULE for lebron is choking, so you take excptions where other players that are actually legends came short and try to equate them. You're completely intellectually dishonest and a fraud like your kang.

[@amazonite-patricklara1816]

You conveniently missed 2 important points. The Miami Heat was the favored team over the Dallas Mavericks as they were in their prime. But then Lebron CHOKED. Same as the 2014 Finals, He CHOKED again. Game 4 of the 2011 Finals, He Scored 8 Points, when his team needed him the most.The GOAT of basketball does not Choke in the Finals and his name is Michael Jeffrey Jordan.

[@amazonite-patricklara1816]

Bottom line, He lost the Finals Series he was supposed to win. I can give him a pass for 2007, 2017, 2018 but not 2011 and 2014. He CHOKED and there is nothing you can do about it.

[@sz3231]

Greatest passer of all time not just for a big man

[@SamuelBlackMetalRider]

No one’s touching Jordan. Ever. And I friggin’ LOVE Jokic and I think he is/ will be top 5 in History. But there’s Michael AIR Jordan and that’s it.

[@ryanlambert1265]

KD would absolutely smoke Jordan 1v1

[@shazaalala28]

⁠@@ryanlambert1265kd blew a 3-1 lead with an MVP teammate, the only thing he smokes is his own legacy

[@markogjorgiev4912]

@@ryanlambert1265 KD can't win without a stacked team. If he was so good where is his success without joining one of the greatest teams ever?

[@ryanlambert1265]

@markogjorgiev4912 He joined a team that played team ball...home grown players. KD was literally the only 3pt threat on OKC so I would have made the same move. Having other shooters on that GS team totally unlocked KD and he was the greatest player I've ever seen! Everybody in this era has had a pretty stacked team to win a title...LeBron etc. Dirk was one of the only guys that didn't have a super stacked team

[@edwardwood3622]

The Joker is amazing, his game is more complete than Jordan’s and at this time he is playing at a higher level than LBJ. We’ll have to wait and see what his durability is like but he is on a historic run.

[@peterpiroo1089]

Next thing he be doing goofy things like putting on a crown and walking around with a couple of live goats. Nah He ain't that silly. Too much class.

[@vanjanja]

Wait a second, LeChoke didn't pass MJ not even close, he didn't pass Kobe neither.

[@borisfrlic]

LeChoke didn't even pass Moses Malone

[@vanjanja]

@@borisfrlic agree! Not Kareem, not Magic...

[@borisfrlic]

@@vanjanja not even remotely close to them.

[@edwardwood3622]

Ya sure, KB is the Derek Jeter of the NBA. Good, played a long time but not in the goat debate.

[@bassiclysplash6633]

Ur funny bro

[@dwallent1]

Thanks!

[@ModernJamBasketball]

thanks so much man!

[@wolverine2551]

Jokic is like that old eastern European or Soviet truck that doesn't run very fast, its not the prettiest or most enjoyable but its strong as hell 4 wheel drive and economy efficiency plus endurance and extremely high Eon Musk Tesla IQ upgrade makes it better than all the others.

[@Bozha_Kapetanovic91]

Thnx for video.

[@ilijakrivokapic338]

Jokic G.O.A.T !!

[@mja4wp]

I love the Joker...LOVE his style and low key domination. But he's further away from Jordan than LeBron is and LeBron is NOT gonna catch MJ unless he plays until he's 50 at this rate. All LeBron need to pass MJ is a winning record in the Finals. Joker, I'm not certain he will play past 35 years old. But I'm happy to see him play and dominate the way he does for another 20 years if that were possible. Joker is the King of Slow is Smooth and Smooth is Fast. He is the best Pure Player since Tim Duncan and he is better than Tim imo.

[@thebuilder2018]

dickhead david stern babyed jordan in the 90s go back and watch every game from that era dickhead once bird went out due to injury and magic retired the league needed a new face and stern went all in on jordan the whole "you can't stand too close to jordan it's a foul" was true amongst nba players the only reason the bulls got through for their 3peat in 93 was because of the refs intervening against the knicks when the bulls were down 2-1 and half the knicks team had 5 fouls or fouled out already with 2mins left in the game 🤣🤣🤣 and every shot jordan took if it missed the refs called a foul to put him to the line... that is also why he has such a high PPG in the playoffs it was all his phantom foul free throws!!! give curry or nash that handicap and they would average 50PPG in the playoffs

[@goastlyarrowplays]

If he keeps up this pace with a few rings to his name then he definitely can become the GOAT, but the question is can he do it? I have no clue. I will say that the second round draft selection does help his case. Story is an important part of the debate, and being a second round pick does give him an advantage.

[@hesar1975]

you know why he is so good? IMO ofcoz xd because he treats basket as his work, he is good at, other players breathe, live and everything for basket, he is thinking not feeling :)

[@Stop_Making_Sense1]

Currently, 3 time mvp, 3 td behing magic, and entering his peak. In next 7 months prepare to see some freaky shit

[@DrewDowns6791]

Yes he does

[@marvinschwartz9159]

He can be the B.O.A.T., the best of all time. But to be the greatest in an US sport he has to be a fancy, dunking or ballhandling, athletic loud character. It‘s not only about skill, it is about hype to be a goat in the US. That‘s all they are about. That‘s not jokic, he is just the best player

[@joezim4254]

My boy Jokic probably isn't breaking the top two. My dream is that when he retires, the debate will be between him and Bird for best player of pale complexion of all time. Probably just needs another ring, maybe two, and he's on his way.

[@Markomanski]

He alredy GOAT

[@rona6063]

Jokic would legit rather own a goat than be the goat.

[@AverageSportyTeen]

I feel like lebrons just trying to win the scoring title and that’s why he’s still playing MJ would have a better case than LeBron if you compare the stats of seasons until you reach the first retirement season of everyone lebrons just trying to make it seem like he’s elite still and trying to make him seem better than everyone else by playing longer Jokic should seriously be considered

[@32Learn]

What a casual take. Just say you don’t watch basketball games, even the Lakers games. Scoring title? AD is the main point of offense right now. Lebron is not aiming for that.Make it seem like he still elite? He is elite at 39, ask the players, the coaches they know. Watch the games casual

[@AverageSportyTeen]

@@32Learn bro have you even seen my content 💀 I literally got league pass and my whole room is basketball themed tf

[@32Learn]

@@AverageSportyTeen Don’t need to see your channel for a casual take. If you can’t answer to my question or at least respond to them logically. Give your league pass to someone else tf??

[@AverageSportyTeen]

@@32Learn this is yt so idc what goes on I’m not gonna make a whole detailed comment on this and that that’s why it’s so “casual” but I’m never gonna give up my league pass bc I use it more than the average person since I watch every raptors and nuggets game so why would I give it up also not answering your question makes me not worthy of it? Also what question your wording is weird also if you such a lakers fan than why you care about a Jokic video

[@32Learn]

@@AverageSportyTeen first of all, I am a basketball fan and that is why I am here. To counter your point. You're the one who brought up that you have a league pass and all that shit while spewing nonsense about MJ and lebron? Wherein you don't know what you're talking about. Hence, I called you a casual. It was a casual take. If you brought up stuff about Jokic, I would have agreed. I am fan too, but this BS gotta stop. Stop commenting about shit you don't know. Stick to what you know. Done.

[@HFH-Official]

Just wanted to correct you. Jordan and Lebron aren't competing for that #1 spot. That spot belongs to Jordan, and that is cemented for life. This isn't up for debate.

[@Nichee-wo2nz]

Makes ya wonder how many players would have been great had they gotten the right opportunity

[@jopspandaraoan8424]

Ever since Lebron decided to put flopping in his repertoire, he put himself out of the GOAT conversation

[@joshspears8507]

Than you for saying, "has a chance" feel like to many people be tying to boost him up there already, he hasn't even played 10 seasons yet 🙄

[@Medude27]

I’m showing people this video whenever I hear jokic criticism