Nikon lenses! Review! Nikon 600mm F4. The best lens for wildlife photography!

[@pimnauta3840]

Hello Josh, I watched your video and enjoyed it very much as a Nikon shooter. After selling my Nikon 400mm f/2.8 VR II I bought a secondhand Nikon 600mm f/4.0 VR and I'm proud to own this magnificent lens. It's really heavy and that's the reason I bought a Benro tripod almost like yours ( the larger version I saw for a good price) and the gimbal head Benro GH5C was on sale too. That's almost my favorite set to use except now I use a Nikon D5 but I ordered a Nikon D850 and waiting to receive it soon, can't wait to work with the D850...... Thanks for your great videos here on youtube.

[@BayouJosh]

Thank you so much! Such a wonderful set up. you're going to love the D850. That D5 is fantastic as well.

[@shekatagani]

I use an AFI 600mm that's the first one Nikon made with AF. I've been shooting with it since I shot with Slide film! The Cameras changed over the years but the lens still works great with digital, You can't beat the image quality. My images with that lens are as good as any I see on the internet or Magazines! I now have other newer lens and they are great but I will never give up my old lens!

[@BayouJosh]

Isn't it amazing how glass rarely changes. It's just the electronics that seem to improve.

[@robwolfe8571]

Very nice. Out of all the Nikkor long prime lenses, past and present, the AF-I versions are my favorite. The IQ is amazing of course but the build qulity is peak Nikon; just built like tanks. Admittedly, they have the weight to show for it, but at least there's no polycarbonate and magnesium. Plus, they just exude quality with that 'crinkle' finish.

[@kevingolby9971]

I have the same lens,built like a tank.

[@JustinOpinionChannel]

Can you indicate the exact boiler plate? There are several confusing variations, and the used market makes it worse by mixing some of the specs. I'm looking at a: AF S Nikkor 600mm f/4 D II ED from 2005-2006 era. I would hope that it is the better AF, and I know it is pre-VR.

[@BayouJosh]

That’s the one I’m using and it is fantastic.

[@JustinOpinionChannel]

@@BayouJosh Thanks. AF performance is good? I have the Z9 on pre-order and am fantasizing about that combo!

[@BayouJosh]

I’d say good not great. I’ve noticed the 500pf I own is noticeable faster. I’d suspect the newest 600 is faster. It’s really subjective though. I wouldn’t own it if I weren’t happy with it. I’m happy with the AF performance

[@JustinOpinionChannel]

@@BayouJosh I pulled the trigger on the slightly newer one, the VR. Still not the newest version, but about at my budget tolerance. Looking forward to getting it within a week or so, and hopefully bolting the Z9 to it very shortly thereafter! Your images are intoxicating - I hope to get somewhere close!

[@BayouJosh]

Awesome! Congratulations. You’re going to love it!

[@BLACKHILLSGUNNER]

Mesh decoy bag is best camera hide ever, have identical setup with 500mm f4. Great video👍🏻

[@BayouJosh]

Nice spot! You recognized the mesh decoy bag. Love that piece of cloth.

[@akernoutdoors9282]

This is absolutely becoming one of the best wildlife photography channels on KZbin! Keep it up josh!

[@BayouJosh]

Wow, thanks! Stop it!

[@ArnaudSiemons]

@@BayouJosh It won't....

[@MOwhitail]

Great video. I'm enjoying your channel. Have you tried the AF-S D2 on a Z mount with the FTZ adaptor? How did it work, full functionality?

[@BayouJosh]

It works great. No problems at all. I use it for video with my Z6 all the time.

[@Flaxbullen]

I was happily surprised to see you on KZbin! You are such an inspiration, love your work man! Greetings from a birder in Sweden.

[@BayouJosh]

You're too kind Henrik. I'm just figuring this video stuff out. if you have any pointers, I'm all ears.

[@eusebiorodriguez4492]

Nice video. Just to confirm, this is the AF-S D ii lens? Not the AF-S G? It still has the aperture adjustment dial at the rear for old film cameras?

[@BayouJosh]

yes. that is correct

[@davebelcherguitar]

Hi Josh, new comment from a lurker -- thanks for all your videos. I love the way you speak honestly about the struggles of bird photography (and the gear that comes with it) without sugar-coating things. I've been trying to photograph birds for over a decade and just recently got a D850 with a 500mm f4 AF-S i. It's definitely not perfect (man, bird photography is so freakin hard), but I'm loving it. Getting the chance to spend the morning or late afternoon with birds captured in the lens (and those that aren't) is still all worth it. I do still have that gear jealousy from time to time when I see others' images, but I'm trying to be happy with what I have and learn to make it work better. At the end of the day this will never be my day job so I'm okay with that. Peace.

[@BayouJosh]

thanks for taking the time to comment Dave. Any time with birds is time well spent.

[@peterwolf3001]

I'm really digging your channel man. you take some cool shots and you know your subjects awesome

[@BayouJosh]

Thanks Peter, I appreciate it brother.

[@nelsonm.5044]

I jumped from a Tamron 150-600 to a second hand Nikon 600mm f/4, the quality is there. I also have a 1.4 and 1.7 TC that give me extra length of reach and still keep a very acceptable high quality photo. It is a lens that will make you sit and wait, 15 lbs with camera but it is all worth it. I prefer using it on a monopod and a ground pod for the low level shots

[@BayouJosh]

Its quite the lens. I am typically on a monopod as well. I just keep it on the tripod for video. Gotta have super stability for video. Thanks for stopping by!

[@markmozley5604]

Most of my nikon lens are second hand but in great shape. Looking to add this lens. Thanks for the review.

[@BayouJosh]

Used is often times the way to go! I never have a problem buying used lenses. I typically stick with new camera bodies though. Thanks for watching Mark.

[@roybixby6135]

Older Nikkors are just so well made...

[@daviddowling9830]

The D850 is a beast,I traded all my unused gear for a 800mm f5,6 E FL ED VR and couldn’t agree more,fast focus and image quality is amazing.Not for handholding for sure,but get a place to set up and stay a while.

[@BayouJosh]

Holy moly. that lens is awesome. I had my eye on one but it got sold out from under me. Probably for the best. I would have really been stretching it financially.

[@roybixby6135]

@@BayouJosh I was drooling over the 800mm too. but settled for a good 600mm.

[@strix_pht]

Amazing video, amazing lens. Thank you very much, regards from Serbia!

[@BayouJosh]

Thank you very much! i appreciate you watching.

[@TylerC_]

Great video as usual Josh. I'm planning on photographing a barred owl tomorrow, looking forward to it.

[@BayouJosh]

i can't wait to see the pics.

[@TylerC_]

@@BayouJosh If it shows itself to me I'll drop an imgur link in the comments of your next video 😁 have a great day Josh

[@NVIK5]

What an absolute dream image quality! I am blown away! Amazing content, another subscriber here.

[@BayouJosh]

Welcome aboard! Thank you my friend.

[@johnpavett68]

Great video again Josh, personally I spend most of my time walking with my gear so I am going for a 500mm pf to go with my D500 and Z50. Keep up the good work 👏

[@BayouJosh]

Good choice! Can't go wrong with that 500pf

[@ChrisMosner]

That was refreshing. Great shots, great camo, great birds, great gear, and... great technique!

[@BayouJosh]

Ah dang Chris. thanks for watching. I do appreciate the feedback.

[@mrjacobsky636]

Greetings Josh. Thank you for all the effort you put in making and uploading videos. Always descent and concise content that is a pleasure to watch. If I may ask you a question.. you're using a non-VR 600mm f4 lens. Can you tell me whether IBIS does the job there once you're pairing the lens with Z6 / Z6II ? I am thinking of buying this lens but I am hesitating because I don't know whether Z6 IBIS will be able to help me out reducing some of the camera shake when needed. Can you briefly talk through your experience pairing Nikon's rocket launcher with Z6 with IBIS and how does that compare to d850 without body stabilization?

[@BayouJosh]

That is a great question. I am putting together a video outlining this exact answer. the simple answer is yes. the IBIS does improve image quality on the older not VR 600

[@carperpaul]

Great video, have you considered the ground pod for the situation you are in, great content as usual 😎👍🏻

[@BayouJosh]

I am actually making myself a ground pod now. Stay tuned for a possible how to. however, it is not great for video. I may even be looking at an upgraded video head for this tripod.

[@carperpaul]

@@BayouJosh I was thinking more of being able to slide yourself along the ground, and not restricted to the flat tripod, and I have no connection to ground pods, love your content, keep the coming.

[@agnethaladuff8559]

Nice lens, will you be making another video like this with the Z9 so it will be completely silent when you're taking shots of the wildlife. That would be awesome. Great video with the 600mm f/4.

[@BayouJosh]

I will certainly be making more z9 videos but I swapped the 600f/4 out for the 400 2.8 😉

[@agnethaladuff8559]

@@BayouJosh That will be fine.

[@svanteekholm7334]

Like you, I have a limited budget. I ended up with a A7Rii ($1200 used - two years ago) and the Nikkor 500mm f/4 P ($1400 on eBay), which is manual focus. Then add another $1000 for new tripod and gimbal head. Moving subjects are going to be tough for me, but burst release helps. Focus is super smooth despite the lens being 20 years old. Mirrorless EVF with 10x zoom lets me nail the focus on static subjects. Built in IBIS gives me image stabilization, too. For now I'm one happy camper.

[@BayouJosh]

That sounds like one heck of a set up. A lot of skill involved to get a great image. that's awesome.

[@cliftonwhittaker260]

This is funny, Josh. :)) I just finished watching your video where you announced that you have preordered the new Z9 and now this earlier one where you are saying your don't need all that eye-focus stuff. I, too, am shooting a D850 which I preordered and now I'm considering a Z9. I don't expect the image quality to be any better but I do expect to see a greater percentage of "keepers" from the little incessantly moving warblers in spring migration and from BIF. Good luck to both of us.

[@BayouJosh]

I'm a fickle kid sometimes. 😅

[@SolamenteVees]

I'm spoiled with the reach of my D500 and 200-500 f/5.6. I'm going to have to budget for a 1.4 teleconverter when I switch to mirrorless/full frame. Love your passion!

[@royparkes6182]

Great images, interesting review. Definately need to get that model lens👍

[@jeffselfphotography3066]

Just found your channel! Liking it so far! I'm assuming this version can autofocus on the Z bodies? I'm shooting a D850 and a Z6ii. And I upgraded from a Nikon 200-500mm to the 500mm PF lens. I love that lens! So small for the focus distance. But I would love to still have a monster lens at some point.

[@BayouJosh]

It performs great on My z6

[@alexblaze8878]

I just bought this lens. What a monstrous beast it is. Amazing optics!

[@mbi777]

Great review Josh. Pics and video was awesome with that lens. Not at your level yet though, in regards to laying down on the ground with a tripod. I have the Benro TMA48CXL but have not used it much yet. You are a wonderful photographer and I really like your style. Something for me to shoot for at your level.

[@BayouJosh]

thank you so much Lee. that Benro is a fantastic tripod. I've avoided tripods in the past. however, now that I'm doing video. I can't leave home without it.

[@jamieburning3762]

Even if your 600mm is an older, non VR model, your nailing the shots.. incrediable lens and camera combo.. If you ever upgrade and need someone to continue the legacy of that lens…. Give me a call.. Great Vlog Josh. keep them coming..

[@BayouJosh]

yes indeed Jamie. I will certainly keep that in mind.

[@rolandrickphotography]

That's cool camouflage you're wearing and using on the lens. Couldn't find it by the "Clothing" link of description. Please help me.

[@BayouJosh]

Thanks man. I'm a Cabela Affiliate but I'm having trouble linking individual items. go to the clothing and type in 3d camo. It is the Redhead 3D evolution Hunting jacket and I also use the pants.The cloth over my camera is the Herters Mesh Decoy bag that I just cut up to go fit over the lens. super cheap. thanks for watching.

[@rolandrickphotography]

@@BayouJosh Thanks for help to my Nikon & DSLR bro over the big pond. 🙌.

[@andrewbrummett3856]

Another great video, Josh! Been following you on all the socials, but really enjoying these videos. There is a good mix of vlog style and sharing the photographs that you are capturing on these outings. Keep up the great work, Josh!

[@BayouJosh]

Thank you so much for the feedback Andrew. It’s been fun!

[@RCBladeKing]

“Gotta remember that these birds, they have bird brains” that got a good chuckle out of me. I’ve been thinking about pulling the trigger on this lens for a while now.

[@charanpreetflora]

Great video Josh. My gut feeling says the same thing that an Afs-II is the way to go. and I am looking for one. Thanks for confirming the faith !! With all the hype around the new afs systems , great to see you revive the faith in skills than a 20-30fps cameras. But still what do you think we are missing not going for latest and greatest, 100 less shots or are we really missing out on something. Great Video again !! congrats

[@BayouJosh]

Thanks. I am testing the R5 for a video this week. I am curious to know that for myself. thanks for watching.

[@charanpreetflora]

@@BayouJosh awesome , definitely look forward to getting your experience with the R5

[@atropicali]

What amazing atmosphere thanks for sharing Bayou

[@BayouJosh]

Thank you Ali. I certainly appreciate it.

[@ghlocal1]

Great video Josh! I’m dreaming of the day when I can afford a 600mm f/4 (Canon, of course)!!

[@BayouJosh]

I get it brother. It was a long wait for me. Lots of dreaming and wishing before making it happen. Thank you for watching Jason.

[@daviddowling9830]

Jason,no no.

[@dance2jam]

Jason B, all I can say is keep looking and ask all your "shopping" friends (most importantly non-photography women budget shoppers) where to find deals. A friend of mine suggest a big internet wholesaler in electronic gear (she went shopping for me looking for deals). She found the 600mm f/4 (new version) "open box" for nearly 30 percent off. I was a bit skeptical, but they had a 30 day return policy, the lens came with full manufacturer's warrantee, and they were a certified dealer. In addition, they gave bonus points that could be used for purchase of other items (mine went for TC) and free delivery. When the lens arrived it was in perfect condition and wrapped as new. The minute you start using these primes you'll likely realize why you bought it. I still am with Nikon, but if you are using Canon then the newer 600mm is only 6 lbs. When Canon comes out with their mirrorless version 600mm that may be when to purchase the older DSLR version. Once you use it, you'll understand, but have to convince others in the household it was worth it :-)

[@KellyShipp]

Nice video. Suggestion: you might mention what your autofocus settings were on your D850, just so others watching this can know what you found works best for you/birds/600mm. By the way, I'm also a D850/600mm fan as well. :) Another suggestion: I think you should rent the 800/5.6 and do a comparison between that and the normal 600/4 and also with the TC 1.4 E. :)

[@jrrockett]

I'm Picking one up Tomorrow for my D500 or D780 I'm a bit Nervous but you give me Confidence here, thanks!

[@WilliamBarrow]

Magnificent shots! Chalk one up for old school: great photog with great camera and great lens will match iAF any day of the week.

[@BayouJosh]

Many thanks! Yeah man. that iAF is sweet though. I'm testing the R5 now and I've had some eye opening moments. Stay tuned. thanks for watching.

[@EdEstapa]

Enjoying the videos Josh, keep the content coming!

[@BayouJosh]

Thank you EJ. I appreciate you watching.

[@svtk5104]

Hello from Europe :) Have you tried the 500 f4. I am wondering if there is some optical quality difference between the two. According to the photos I can not judge it so easy - good photographer - good photos. In your opinion, is autofocus for this lens crucial? It is on a tripod, I guess I could manage at least 80% of the shots? For handholding - other issue. Thanks! (I am sick with the manual focus on my 300mm, but still the budget has his limits)

[@BayouJosh]

The 500f/4 is a fantastic lens. For me, AF is critical because I don't really trust my eyes and I shoot a lot of fast moving subjects. Bottom line. the 500f/4 Image quality is on par with the 600mm.

[@svtk5104]

@@BayouJosh This was fast! Thank you for the advice. In the near future I would show some interesting photographs too :)

[@enricomarconi8358]

Hey Josh, thanks for your video. I've been wanting a 600mm for quite some time and I think it's crazy to be dropping 13K on this gorgeous lens. Still it's a lot of money... Can you confirm that this is the lens pls? Nikkor AF-S 600mm f/4G? Is the AF just as fast if compared to the new version?

[@BayouJosh]

Great point and great question Enrico. This is the AF-s 2 F/4 D. This is the one they released just before releasing the first VR 600 lens back in 2009. This one does not have VR and has the Aperture ring like all the old AFS lenses. Just FYI, I picked this one up for less than half the price of a new lens. I linked a 600f/4 G lens in the details because i could not find an AFS2 on the market anywhere. Thanks for watching Enrico.

[@enricomarconi8358]

@@BayouJosh Thank You Josh for such a swift reply and for all the specs! I'm getting into wildlife now, but I'm used to very sharp glass (from Zeiss) so I won't probably bother with the 200-500 zoom, and will look for a great used 600mm instead (plus some workout at the gym to carry the beast around). Lovely images you shot and I'll keep watching! D850's files are second to none! I shoot the same and I'm blown away! Thank you for posting such good videos!

[@roybixby6135]

@@BayouJosh An aperture ring is always handy...

[@ihznt]

love the ghillie suit, very tactical

[@BayouJosh]

Sneaky!

[@rlpring78]

Can you please compare the Sony A1 using the Sony 200-600 and Sony 600 f4.

[@BayouJosh]

I'd love to. However, I'm not one of those big time youtubers that get's stuff sent to him. I'm putting the message out to friends. working on it.

[@Dr_BK]

Hi Josh, I discovered your channel tonight and subscribed. Watched nearly half of your videos in one sitting. Great stuff and have been enjoying everything this far. I am getting into more wildlife/bird photography, and currently have a D850 as well. What do you recommend for focusing modes? Do you primarily use 3D-tracking? It would be great to see a tips video on focusing. Thanks for great content and excellent work!

[@BayouJosh]

Well you made my day Bryan. Thank you so Much. I only use two focusing modes. Group mode for flight and single point for portraits. I keep the Af mode in continuous. I've learned that I prefer to control where the camera is focusing and rarely rely on Automatic autofocus. It has let me down on so many occasions. thanks again for watching and feel free to ask me anything about the nikon D850. I have countless hours on that camera.

[@Dr_BK]

Thanks for the quick reply. And I glad to make your day :) I have not used Group AF much - mostly AF C single point or d9. I know it depends on the situation - contrast, subject vs. background, etc. But will definitely give Group AF a go. I will catch up on your other videos soon. In the meantime I followed your IG and look forward to more content. If you prefer, I can reach out via private message. Thanks again Josh!

[@sochuilung1502]

Loved the video. You earn a new subscriber 🇮🇳

[@BayouJosh]

Welcome aboard! You're too kind. I'm just figuring this video stuff out, so go easy on me. :-)

[@roybixby6135]

A fantastic lens - Almost perfect except for the weight. I guess a 600mm f4 has to be heavy. Sharp all across the frame - f4 - fast AF - sturdy - internal focusing, what more do you need? My lens doesn't see VR very often - VR is for lenses up to 500mm that can be hand held.

[@BayouJosh]

I'm with you. I have the 200-400 f/4 that I carry around. It has the newest VR. However, I turn it off when it goes on the Tripod. thanks for watching.

[@jamesskintauy6773]

@@BayouJosh I had the 200-400 f.4 for years and kinda got tired of it. It was poor with a teleconverter and I didn't feel it was as sharp at 400mm as it should have been. I know this sounds nuts, but kinda feel the cheaper and lighter 200-500 F5.6 was sharper at 400mm. Of course, you lost the extra stop of light. Really no need for VR on a tripod. Handheld, yes.

[@BayouJosh]

@@jamesskintauy6773 that lens has it place. I struggled with mine for the first week and then really dialed in the calibration. it really felt awesome when I switched to the D850 from the D810

[@roybixby6135]

@@jamesskintauy6773 I found the 200-400mm much sharper at shortest and longest. But my 200-500mm is much easier to carry.

[@krisceuppens5273]

The lens must be great indeed, but: your energy to show up early, your willingness to crawl in the mud is what makes these beautiful images!

[@BayouJosh]

So true! I did get muddy. don't look to close at that big mud blob on the back of my britches. lol

[@gregwilsonnaturephotography]

Strange video.... A pile of weeds.... but having a voice in the background! I didn't see you till you got up and started carrying that big artillery! Makes my 500 f4 look like a 70-200 mil. Great info! Sayin' hey.... Greg

[@BayouJosh]

Yeah Greg! I'm super sneaky like that. lol thanks for watching brother.

[@brettmorgan9797]

Awesome work man great review 👍🏻

[@steveboys5369]

Great day out Josh, stunning photography.

[@BayouJosh]

Thank you so much.

[@nicolaas7]

Yes a great Lens I like the way you handel situations and your loyalty to Nikon. They make the best

[@BayouJosh]

Totally agree! I appreciate your kindness.

[@ellasdad45]

Great video as always, I’ll get a 600 one of these days

[@BayouJosh]

Thank you Ted. Treat yourself. go do it!

[@randygeene9455]

I use the Wimberly Sidekick attached to a Manfrotto ball head. It gives me great versatility because I can easily pop the Sidekick off and use the ball head independantly. Used equipment is the way to go, for sure. B+H and MPB are the best!

[@BayouJosh]

That is a great combo. I’ve seen it in action. 👍🏻

[@alexmirza5210]

Yay! Hope things are well. I eventually found a deal on an nikon 400mm f2.8 af-s II and it's fast. Sharp at f2.8 if need be. The focus ring was jammed solid for some reason but I fixed it with an oil filter wrench.. I would have preferred a 600mm f4 but hey.

[@g8erhater1]

Wow Josh your a joy to watch! Love your down to earth personality and your approach to creating content because I am getting tired of everyone else I watch being a bit robotic and relying too much on spec sheets and what others say about something. Instead of that your content makes it seem as though you and I are setting on the ground together while we shoot birds. I like the fact that your sticking with the D850 when everyone else says you need a new Sony A1 or Cannon R5 with sticky eye autofocus. I agree the eye stuff is nice but when a photographer sees a awesome photo that you've created using your D850 they know that you captured the image the right way, the old school way, the way that photographers have had to work for since the dawn of the DSLR. I think you would also get that extra bit of RESPECT from real photographers for doing it that way. I think you would be well served to grab yourself a D500 to go along with your D850 because its almost exactally the same camera in the hands and the pixel density even leans towards the D500. It would give you an extra 300mm on your lens too. Anyway, I really like watching your stuff and I will continue to do so. Keep up the great work! NIKON FOREVER!!

[@BayouJosh]

I can't thank you enough. You really made my day. I had that nikon D500 and sold it to get the z6 for video. the D500 was fantastic. the cool thing about that D850 is that I can punch in to Dx mode and get about 20mp at 1.5 crop. that's basically having two cameras in one. I kept the D500 on my 200-400 f/4. I do wish i still had it for that. A boys gotta pay his bills though.

[@g8erhater1]

@@BayouJosh You are exactally right!! I can't believe I didn't even think of that because I was thinking of that same thing about getting the Z7 and not needing the Z50 because of that reason. You got a good mind as well.. LoL.. I always get excited when that bubble pops up on top of my phone telling me you have made a new video. I am just Nikon Nuts about photography and you are only one of a few Strictly Nikon shooters out there on KZbin that makes good videos.

[@Slewis71119]

Great Images

[@BayouJosh]

Thank you so much Scott.

[@jfphotography69]

The Sigma 500mm f4 sport prime paired to my D850 and D500 gives me excellent results at a fraction of the cost of the Nikon 500mm f4 and Nikon 600mm f4, especially the Nikon 600mm f4, yes the 600mm gives you an additional 100mm of reach but at the extra cost of $6K. Pretty much "90 percent" of my shooting is hand held with the Sigma 500mm f4 sport.

[@BayouJosh]

That 500f4 sigma is a fantastic lens.

[@andyvan5692]

nice camo, but what ammunition does this take?, as it looks like you haven't "shot" anything; and where is the other guy with the box/ belt of ammo? ( you look like a Medium machine gunner from WW1).

[@BayouJosh]

Right? Kind of ridiculous huh?

[@robertlawrence7958]

I look at the prices for these lenses and ask myself how many images would i need to sell in order to recoup the outlay and then I ask myself would i have been able to get those images with a cheaper alternative. I am extremely fortunate to have had unlimited use of the EF 800mm f5.6L for the past few years but I will be retiring soon and will have to live without it. That is going to be a very sad day for, as you say, there is most certainly a special quality about these top lenses. A very good video with top notch images.

[@BayouJosh]

perhaps you can retire it to me and it will live on. 😇 thank you kindly Robert.

[@robertlawrence7958]

@@BayouJosh I'm doing my best to convince work to let me have it as a retirement present.. 😁😁😁😅 Im really enjoying going through your back catalogue.

[@dance2jam]

Hey Josh, thank you for the time and effort you put into helping others. I have some brief qualifying remarks. First, I picked up a new "open box" 600mm f/4 FL ED VR 8 lb version fully warranted for just a little more than the older version. I had been looking for a year. I believed I would take it out more if it weighted less. I still believe that is true. You do realize you said you didn't see the point in shelling out the extra money for a little drop in weight or for the VR and then said the 600mm f/4 prime just provides that "little extra" of compression etc. Just sayin. That said, I can't compare the 600mm f/4 to all other lenses in it's focal length range, but as you already mentioned if you're into wildlife photography, and spend many hours at it, the 600mm primes do leave you with an esthetic quality to those that appreciate it. One other reason for these primes of course is the f/4 aperature. If you shoot at high shutter speeds or in lower light, you will appreciate this often. The lowest shutter speed no matter what version depends on resolution of camera body, hand held, tripod, or monopod, and movement of the subject. The D850 is not very forgiving, but like you I've pushed it. For small birds that scatter if you even try to close distance slowly, I've gone to the D500 with the 600mm f/4. Curious if you put the D850 in crop mode (ever) and the IQ vs D500. Wish you much success with your KZbin channel. Thanks again.

[@BayouJosh]

I used to own the d500 and sold it recently to buy the Z6 (needed the video capabilities) I can honestly say that it was tough to tell the difference between my D850 in crop mode and the D500. other than to say that the D850 ISO performance was noticeably better. I can shoot at ISO 6400+ in crop mode with the D850 with very good results. (BTW, the last few images of the Avocet on this video were at ISO 6400 in crop mode.) Bottom line. I felt good losing the D500 knowing I could throw the D850 in crop mode when I needed the extra reach.

[@dance2jam]

@@BayouJosh Thanks for the reply Josh. I was recently challenged by a fellow photographer to shoot with the D850 in crop mode and leave the D500 alone. The results were surprising, but I would need to side-by-side comparison to see the difference. I'll keep looking and you enjoy the Z6. The few times I use the D850 for video it was amazing (on a fountain display) and absolutely miserable on a moving animal (hand focus, peaking, back screen live view). Battery life (as you mentioned in a recent video) for still is exceptional and I've gotten over 2,000 shots on one batter charge (vertical grip included). Hope Nikon can survive this pivotal year ahead. Again, thanks for the videos.

[@avikmajumdar7668]

A beautiful video. U know what I liked every video u did and will like every video u will post in future czz we are nikon fanboy

[@BayouJosh]

Ah! thank you My friend. you are too kind! I really do appreciate it.

[@avikmajumdar7668]

@@BayouJosh and those pictures are too good man u got some beautiful lighting condition and u took full advantage of it. Keep it up ❤️ from 🇮🇳

[@Nikonman77]

Sir I’m 57 years old , I have the manual focus 600mm F4 Nikkor . And the D850. But I been a photographer all my life. I have af lenes and my hundreds of mf lenes, I use my old mf the most for that ultra hi resolution. That will always be my goto 600mm. I can focus my own lenses

[@DIBYAJYOTI04]

I want the video to last forever...too good

[@BayouJosh]

You are too kind.

[@brucegallagher4904]

I use one for sport (cricket) here in Aus. & for wildlife with a D6 & D850. Will be interested to see how it goes with the much anticipated (by me), Z9.

[@BayouJosh]

I'm with you Bruce. I will certainly be in line for that Z9. the good news is that the 600 works quite well with my Z6 and adapter. Hopefully that carries forward with the Z9

[@eddy3011]

Which autofocus mode do you use for those small birds flying? Group?

[@BayouJosh]

Yeah. that seems to work best. I program both back buttons for AF. one for single point and the other for group.

[@alwilder1]

The 600/4 AFS II is nice but keep in mind Nikon, USA no longer has parts for that lens and consequently stopped servicing, adjusting or even checking it after 2011 no matter what the reason. I found that out after trying a used AFS II that was a bit too soft wide open. However APS (formerly Nikon Morton Grove, Illinois) will still service that lens. The best thing if you really want that type of long glass with limited funds is to buy used but make sure the lens can be returned after a short trial if unsatisfactory. I opted on returning the AFS II and getting a used 600/4E FL ED VR. That sample was tack sharp wide open, something critical if you plan on using a tele-extender for even greater reach. The weight and balance of the new lens is great too.

[@BayouJosh]

Great advice. Luckily, this lens has been great.

[@atlantajunglepythons1744]

You buzzard, you! I can’t spring for a Z9 + new, greatest ever lenses with built in tc’s, etc, but watching your video (subscribed at once) has put me over the edge on the purchase decision - which is difficult given the demise of F-mount. Still debating the 400/2.8 vs 600/4…both are fantastic in about any version if the glass is true (and the mechanics) on the sample in question. But it’s almost a commitment to a lifestyle that allows the opportunity for field-work, not just the price of a lens….

[@oastorga]

I’ve been using a used Canon 600mm F4 with my Nikon Z6ii and I’ve become quite used to better images, much much better. Stunning really. The lens is definitely in the same ballpark of weight. The difference in switching from video to stills on the Z6ii is much better for my use. I used to lust for this lens, I’m quite satisfied with it, don’t notice the weight since I’m on the ground most of the time. I carry a second camera with a 100-400mm for quick grab shots if I can’t maneuver the rig I use but so far it’s the 600mm that gets used most of the time. Now how many times did I use the word use? :) Your images are reminiscent of what I’ve captured recently. Only my second time seeing a Killdeer close up and do to the ‘camo’, I was able to get a nice string of images. Because there were so many birds I actually missed the Killdeer’s takeoff. It is my morning routine before breakfast. A 600mm worth of adrenaline! I don’t feel I’m by myself anymore:)

[@BayouJosh]

That sounds like a dream Otto. birds before breakfast. Beautiful thought!

[@HabeebRWildlifePhotography]

Another great video Josh 😊

[@BayouJosh]

Thank you my friend.

[@bhavingondaliya2959]

Hi I have same lens and want to buy z8 . Can you please tell me how this lens autofocus perform with new z8?

[@greentenrninja6452]

From a canon fanboy I enjoy your videos greatly!!!

[@BayouJosh]

I appreciate that! I've got a little treat coming for all the canon users. it should be fun.

[@DaveSandell-w6r]

I got the newer one brilliant lens highly recommended

[@markloh4896]

You doing great mate.Nikon is watching you. Soon you will have plenty of gear to test🍻😉

[@BayouJosh]

I can't even imagine Marky. thank you so much.

[@ArnaudSiemons]

@@BayouJosh He won't

[@BayouJosh]

@@ArnaudSiemons You're likely right.

[@smkunder1]

Enjoyed this, I am not sure I could afford that lens either, I will have to stick to 200-500. I will live the dream through your videos.

[@BayouJosh]

I did that for years. I just had to stop torturing myself and pull the trigger. ;-)

[@roybixby6135]

I have that fantastic 200-500mm too - for when I cant stand to carry the 600mm very far.

[@AndyGreenWildlife]

Great video mate. “These birds have bird brains” 😂 would love a lens like this for sure. As you say, other lenses are great, but there is just that difference at the top level!

[@BayouJosh]

Absolutely. I see awesome images out of those sigmas and Tamron lenses too. I think it just takes a little more work. I'm currently watching your video on PS and LR. I'm tempted to set up something where you and I just get on a meeting together and you walk me through some workflow. I am struggling with PS. :-(

[@AndyGreenWildlife]

@@BayouJosh for sure. I’ve actually just bought the 100-500RF L so interested so see what I can out of it over the Sigma. Definitely mate, would be more than happy to collab like that 😊

[@Edinwildlifetog]

The FL E is just wow!

[@BayouJosh]

Yeah. It is . I just don't have the money for that. Nor do most other people.

[@CiBogey]

Have you tried this lens w the Z9?

Nice video, Like 162 and Good Sunday from Italy :)

[@BayouJosh]

Thanks for visiting. :-)

[@Stefan1968ful]

I use the FL version of this beautiful lens and it really delivers. I appreciate the weight reduction because I usually don's use a tripod, simply because I am more flexible without a tripod. Maybe a Monopod but that is it. So for me the FL is worth it. Here in Shanghai you can get it in mint status (99% new) for less than 10k USD. Still a lot of money of course.

[@BayouJosh]

thanks Stefan, I am sure it is awesome. I would certainly jump at the chance to get one if it were about half that price.

[@Stefan1968ful]

@@BayouJosh For me most important is that I found out that the Nikon D850 is still a stunning camera for Wildlife. What a surprise, right? 😂 Almost 4 years old and still top notch.

[@J_bar_S_Photography]

Heck yea its the best lens. I mean, im not a Nikon guy at all. im a Sony all the way and if i could ever get to that point i would buy me the Sony 600mm f4. Heck, if they made a Nikon adapter to fit on the sony i would totally get the nikon 600mm f4 lol. Anyway, keep the videos coming.

[@BayouJosh]

Right on Man! yeah, I guess Sony is OK. lol. Make a leap and get that lens. thanks for watching!

[@NikCan66]

Excellent video

[@BayouJosh]

Thank you very much!

[@JoshsPhotoJourney]

Nice video Josh, Stay safe ✌

[@BayouJosh]

Thanks Josh! you too brother.

[@jackwestcott4469]

I actually JUST bought the same lens last night…an older gentlemen who had decided to invest the money elsewhere had it listed for $1500. Yep. Insanity. I drove a couple hours to get it but the lens looks factory new and as a 27 year old with student loans who was using a Tamron 150-600 3 weeks ago, it is hard to believe that I now have a 600 F4 in my arsenal. Also, the FTZ compatibility was a LOVELY surprise for me.

[@BayouJosh]

Wow!!!! you really got a deal. I paid $5600 for mine and I would pay that much again. It really is a fantastic piece of glass. Don't feel like you have to get anything more than this. trust me, I have rented the newer glass and the images are the same.

[@jackwestcott4469]

@@BayouJosh and I forgot to mention the most important part, THANK YOU for introducing me to this lens. I had no idea it existed and if it is good enough for you, it will be beyond phenomenal for me.

[@BayouJosh]

@@jackwestcott4469 I can't wait to see some images. Tag me on instagram when you post some images from the camera. I don't want to miss it. @bayou_josh

[@OverlandExposures]

Will this lens also work as a boat anchor? Thanks!

[@BayouJosh]

Lol! you have to buy a special attachment for that!

[@buttonlover86]

😂 that lens has magical properties so it would float, Brandon.

[@OverlandExposures]

@@buttonlover86 🤣

[@OverlandExposures]

@@BayouJosh 😂

[@roybixby6135]

Its heavy enough - Probably so well made that it will still work as a lens afterwards.

[@BPaparazzi]

Nice Stilt photos Josh

[@BayouJosh]

Thanks Rob. I appreciate it.

[@Raevenswood]

Exactly why I got into Nikon for wildlife photography because I couldn't afford 13 grand for Sony's 600mm offering. I bough the 600mm F/4 G ED VR also. I paid 6400$ (which was still a lot of money for me) and I can't even tell if it was ever used. It's a heavy beast but I didn't buy it to walk around hand holding. FYI the older AF-D versions are pretty much worthless moving forward because they won't autofocus on the new mirrorless cameras through the FTZ adapter. I see tons of the AF-D flooding the market but thats why they are so cheap right now.

[@BayouJosh]

Yeah man. that AF-d is certainly outdated. that VR would have been nice. However, i couldn't find one for under $7500 when I purchased My AFS-2. I wish money wasn't an issue.

[@Raevenswood]

@@BayouJosh for the most part I don't think VR is really even necessary considering how heavy these things are. A good tripod does the job plus moving forward the mirrorless cameras have in body image stabilization so I don't think it's going to be as much of an issue as mirrorless takes over.

[@BayouJosh]

@@Raevenswood Truth!

[@NikCan66]

Subscribed from a still lockdown Ireland

[@BayouJosh]

Still locked down? dang it. thanks for subscribing.

[@scarface1961]

I would never have considered spending money on getting a new 600mm f/4E FL. Now with the goof in the WH, I figure I may as well spend my money before it is taken from me. Now if I could just find one since they are on back order.

[@BayouJosh]

They are tough to get.

[@MultiSalomonsen]

Magnificent 🤘🏼🕊

[@BayouJosh]

Thank you Jesper.

[@gaithshalan]

I'm canon Man but i subscribed. good luck

[@BayouJosh]

Thanks for the sub! I won't hold the Canon thing against you.

[@gaithshalan]

@@BayouJosh ahhah

[@jeecee5539]

Are you using that cam to shoot video too..wow?

[@BayouJosh]

Moved on from that setup. Sony A1 with 600f/4 now.

[@jeecee5539]

Sony's good@@BayouJosh

[@richardbettencourt]

Sweet hat there! 🤘🏼

[@BayouJosh]

HA! I was hoping you would notice. It's one of my two favorites. you still selling them?

[@richardbettencourt]

@@BayouJosh yeah I actually have leather patch ones now too!

[@MrDaveB123]

Thank Gad for mirrorless That shutter would drive me bananas these days lol

[@CamillaI]

Great video I have got twice as many shots while wearing camo and staying still ! The Sony 600mm f4 is the best lens for wildlife photography (Sony fan boy here !) Great shots, any 600mm is well worth owning for serious and expensive wildlife photography !

[@BayouJosh]

Totally agree! I've watched your videos. You have one hell of a set up.

[@pacific-midwest]

Optically, there is little difference between the newer FL and the older G/AF-S models. I've read somewhere that the newer version was slightly 'sharper' wide-open, but in real-world settings, it's a wash when you factor in atmospheric conditions. I love my 600mm f/4 G. A great lens with beautiful/natural rendering.

[@BayouJosh]

you are correct Kris. they are better for sure. I rented one. However, like you said, I was hard pressed to tell the difference in Image quality between the two.

[@fredsbloggs656]

Good reasoning ....... good video ........ great shots ........ I admit to being weaker and older than you ...... so I sold a kidney bought the 600mm F4E FL : ) ......... have too many lenses cause I nearly shoot exclusively with that lens ..... love it !!

[@BayouJosh]

I switched to the Sony kit for that reason. 6.5lb 600mm lens is a game changer

[@craigwallace166]

Another great video, like you down to earth way of looking at things. You always don’t need the latest and greatest, the good quality used stuff was the latest and greatest at one time. Beings the 600mm is so heavy and shooting off a tripod the vr is turned on anyway.

[@BayouJosh]

thanks Craig. exactly. 12 years ago this was the best thing money could buy and they were on backorder for 4 months.

[@erichramone7812]

I like your channel

[@BayouJosh]

Thank you my friend.

[@TaipeiGeek]

I don't understand what is so fun about Bird AF and 30 FPS. Basically you can just spray and pray and browse your phone while the camera does its thing. That's just not what I want in photography. I want to manually control this tool as much as possible, so that when I get a great image, I know it's me who did it, and not the camera with its automatic functions.

[@BayouJosh]

Thank you! My point exactly! Be a photographer, not just a camera stand!

[@martinhild]

I could maybe afford a 600mm/f4, but I feel it is hard to justify. For now I am still happy with my 500pf. Mind you, I am not a pro by a long shot and far from your level and dedication. Nice video and great shots. Thanks for taking the effort. I learned something!

[@BayouJosh]

It is hard to not be happy with a 500Pf. that is an awesome lens.