Nikon Z6 / Z7 REVIEW “One Year Later”...SORRY NIKON!!!

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Jared Polin

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It's been a little over a year since Nikon officially released the Z System with the Nikon Z6 and Nikon Z7. This video is my REVIEW a year later. I've used both cameras extensively in many different situations from indoors to outdoors to low light and great light.
I still stand behind my review's of both cameras but a year later there's a lot to discuss. There's more competition in the way of the Canon EOS R, Sony a7R IV, Sony a7R III and even the older a7 III.
This is my OFFICIAL Review one year later of the Nikon Z System.
This video was filmed with the Nikon Z6 of which we own 5 of and use as our main video cameras for the majority of our videos.
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@DeputyNordburg
@DeputyNordburg 4 жыл бұрын
Who is this calm rational person, and what have you done with Jared?
@ehouli77
@ehouli77 4 жыл бұрын
A Sony user Fro 😁
@curt8806
@curt8806 4 жыл бұрын
I just want to see him shirtless someday
@PavelVoronenkoPhotography
@PavelVoronenkoPhotography 4 жыл бұрын
@@ehouli77 Sony Affiliated User Fro... :(
@arielrglaze
@arielrglaze 4 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when you have to eat up your words admitting that the competition you spoke against for so long offers a superior product.
@freelancephotography35
@freelancephotography35 4 жыл бұрын
Lol ...
@amineadjioua9124
@amineadjioua9124 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great video. Me, as an amateur and I choose the Z6 instead of the A7III few weeks a go, just because I had this feeling with it in my hands that I didn't had with the Sony...It' difficult to explain but I've tried them all in a shop. I took my time. Actually, I was not looking for technical perfection and for super specs, I just wanted a camera that would make me want to shoot. It's as simple as that! The Z6 fits perfectly in my hands. It makes me want to grab my camera, go out and take pictures! That's the most important thing to me
@darkdayz365
@darkdayz365 4 жыл бұрын
same here. no knocks on sony, just felt good in my hands and had a couple of nikkor lenses and DLSRs. so there
@fayensu
@fayensu 4 жыл бұрын
@ M-Amine Adjoua: Best reply I've read among all the replies. The Z-6's ergonomics, button placement, super-clear super-readable viewfinder, natural feeling handling, and for 99.9% of users, an autofocus that is as good as the Sony's, make the Nikon a better camera than the Sony A-7III, I feel.
@Snidel
@Snidel 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer this Jared, slower-paced, more serious without all the juvenile jokes aside. I understand he tries to have an energetic and childish vibe, but this more serious Jared seems like an evolution who is much better to watch and specially to hear
@philippscheithauer
@philippscheithauer 4 жыл бұрын
Felipe Gordillo Corvalán 100% after, easier to listen to for sure. Keep some things but the usual memes arent rly funny
@jeffostroff
@jeffostroff 4 жыл бұрын
He went to Jared!
@Glen.Danielsen
@Glen.Danielsen 4 жыл бұрын
Felipe Gordillo Corvalán I agree hermano Felipe - kinder, gentler Jared.
@tallaganda83
@tallaganda83 4 жыл бұрын
I also prefer this Jared.
@JoelRiveraMD
@JoelRiveraMD 4 жыл бұрын
I mean it’s fine , but he makes pretty good jokes on his videos! Is fine this vibe I get it... but if he was serious all the time , it would get boring real fast. I think he can mix it up sometimes, or stay the same as always! I always watch his videos after 5 pm (after work) so I can relax , hear some jokes and laugh and still get the info that I need.
@ThomasHaynes
@ThomasHaynes 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't know how you could've painted a better picture for the viewers. You clearly were making a conscious effort to be fair to the camera makers, your audience, pro photographers, amateur photographers, and fanboys. This is not easy to do, but I feel like you nailed it. I think the relaxed and calm presentation of the information really helped. Maybe it's not as fun and exciting as teasing the fanboys of Camera Brand X, Y, or Z, but you really got all your points across in a way where there really should be no hurt feelings. Really appreciate the video. I could imagine this one was quite a challenge to try and get right.
@JeanettePerezEDRN
@JeanettePerezEDRN 4 жыл бұрын
Agree 10000%...if people do get angry that's their problem...great video...great points...great content...love Jared
@GuNNeR85
@GuNNeR85 4 жыл бұрын
The comparison wasn’t really superfair. A great deal of it was spent on af performance, which was improved in the last two months with the new two firmware updates. Maybe not Sony-like still, but a great deal better. Wish he would have tried that on the field.
@EricMathiasen
@EricMathiasen 4 жыл бұрын
@@GuNNeR85 From what I've read elsewhere, while they fix some things, they don't solve the inherent issues Jared brings up.
@EricMathiasen
@EricMathiasen 4 жыл бұрын
I just hope Nikon is listening to what its most loyal critics are nearly ALL saying about the Z system. I'm actually glad I'm not at a point at the moment where I can spend on a new system - my D750 is fine for now - because it'd be an agonizing choice. Hopefully in the next year to eighteen months, Nikon can make some big strides to address the issues raised here and I can be content in choosing from whatever their next release of full-frame mirrorless is.
@ThomasHaynes
@ThomasHaynes 4 жыл бұрын
@@GuNNeR85 Or maybe he's just not as impressed with the latest Nikon Z firmware updates as you are. Do you know for sure that he didn't try the new firmware? Either way it's just all of us having opinions, and it seems maybe you like the state of the Nikon Z system more than he does. Nothing wrong with that. I'm excited about the year to come, and see what happens when the Canon and Nikon systems mature more. I'd like to move into the full frame arena sometime in the next year, and I have no full frame glass to push me to a particular system. I'm currently leaning towards Sony for the video auto-focus performance, but it'll be interesting to see how much Canon and Nikon can play catch up over the next year. Should be a fun year.
@GenCodeFPV
@GenCodeFPV 4 жыл бұрын
I am a Z6 owner, very happy one: AF is an AI function and as long as the processor is fast enough it should be able to do what the Sony does via a firmware update. But even if the processors are 1-1 it comes down to us programmers, which company, Nikon or Sony, devs are doing a better job. Hopefully the devs at Nikon can improve the AI in the focus with the current Z6 within the first quarter of 2020. Making focus point move via the back touch screen is both firmware and hardware so that may be dependent on how fast the LCD touch sensor can keep up even if the firmware has the function added that will determine its usefulness assuming its added. If previous 2 can be updated via firmware in Q1 that would only leave only the glass, that's 100% hardware so they really need to get a grip on that ASAP and make glass for Z faster. I love my Z6 but it could use some firmware tweaks for sure on the AF which is supposed to be coming soon so this video may have been too soon. Z50 is great and Z70 should be even better. Continuous development and Continuous integration would get the Z AF up to par quickly and could even surpass on the firmware side.
@nothingnew3419
@nothingnew3419 4 жыл бұрын
Well said
@barrytakespictures8947
@barrytakespictures8947 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who shot Nikon his whole career i can tell this video really hurt Jared to make. Break-Ups are never easy
@homevideos1749
@homevideos1749 4 жыл бұрын
Z6 shooter here. I agree with most of your observations about autofocus and the like, but I'm counting on these things improving within the next few years. Even with the shortcomings of the Z system, I find I very rarely miss a shot that I want to get when shooting events and candid portraits. Obviously, lens selection will improve with a bit of time, and in the meantime, I am enjoying the 50mm 1.8s and the 24-70 2.8s--both incredible lenses. I'm not afraid to admit that my Nikon nostalgia makes me shun the "better" Sony system. I'm sorry, but I just like Nikon more!
@erjennin
@erjennin 4 жыл бұрын
I have a Z6 and, although Canon and Sony offer great options, the Nikon system works great and has the ergonomics I crave. The 1.8 lenses are actually a positive for me as they are light and “affordable” .... and.... they’re optically excellent.
@adrianvanleeuwen
@adrianvanleeuwen 4 жыл бұрын
We can still get bokeh with a f1.8 with latest Z lenses, why spend double on a f1.4?
@martharetallick204
@martharetallick204 4 жыл бұрын
I want Sony electronics and Nikon build quality.
@SteveCossaboom
@SteveCossaboom 4 жыл бұрын
Have a look at the environments Paul Nicklen takes his Sony gear through on the regular. It sure seems Sony has toughness in spades with "build quality".
@tallaganda83
@tallaganda83 4 жыл бұрын
All we really need is Nikon to improve the autofocus, they are already adding firmware updates and im sure there will be more. On top of this by the next generation im sure they will have ironed out, there will be a second slot and id say they will be on par with Canon and very very close to Sony. It will just be a matter of which files and ergonomics at that stage.
@mmoarchives2542
@mmoarchives2542 4 жыл бұрын
then get a GH5s
@HikingBob
@HikingBob 4 жыл бұрын
And Canon glass...
@Gibson1976uk
@Gibson1976uk 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshblank1 I avoid Sony! they are jerks to deal with :) and I have heard stories about their weather sealing!! why does people get obsessed with wanting the fasted!!! AF going?? people were taking great photos 40 years ago!!! whats everyone want now? film a scene and spend a few hours picking the best frame :) I stick with Nikon because I have a good collection of F mount lenses, thats what makes the difference!! I have even taken some bird stuff with a manual lens!! yes, I might miss a few but that doesn't bother me :)
@maxwolf2718
@maxwolf2718 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Jared, I usually don't comment on videos, but I loved your calmness and collectedness in this video, a joy to listen to! Would really love to see more of that. Have a great day!
@iliaigorevich1367
@iliaigorevich1367 4 жыл бұрын
I sold my Nikon d850 and bought a z6, and I'm happy with everything.
@magdalenanovotna400
@magdalenanovotna400 4 жыл бұрын
the same here :)
@colinreese
@colinreese 4 жыл бұрын
So I can take sharp photos and stuff in motion with it?
@prrfect
@prrfect 4 жыл бұрын
ilya Petrenko Same here... Very happy. PS: eye af is an over rated gimmick. It works but I still shoot single point and doubt I will ever change.
@r0yce
@r0yce 4 жыл бұрын
So it has come to that.....
@AndyS2K76
@AndyS2K76 4 жыл бұрын
I have a d850 and tempted to buy also a z6. I don’t think that a z6 can substitute the d850....am i wrong?
@ls5454ss
@ls5454ss 4 жыл бұрын
Z7 shooter here, purchased just under 1 year ago. As much as it hurt me to watch this, I agree with pretty much everything you said here. There are two things that make me happy about my purchase, however. A year ago, the A7r4 was not out...and I would not have been happy with the A7r3. Secondly, I'm primarily a landscape photographer. For my own sanity, I hope I stay that way until Nikon catches up to Sony... Nonetheless, nice informative video - thanks for sharing.
@tvariuness
@tvariuness 4 жыл бұрын
i use nikon for my landscape, urbanscape and travel photography. my z7 is great at that. fantastic even. but i might head over to sony for the pixels and large print opportunities.
@yskuzi
@yskuzi 4 жыл бұрын
The Z7 is the best camera for landscape the ability to shoot that freaking fast just makes handheld hdr sooo easy i have not seen a sony do this
@bamboojled8919
@bamboojled8919 4 жыл бұрын
@Douglass Paul I’m sure we are going to see a higher megapixel Z very soon, and if it’s anything like history has shown, Nikon will get more out of that sensor than Sony does.
@ls5454ss
@ls5454ss 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThatWasPrettyFunny yeah for some wildlife stuff, it's amazing how much I can crop and still have excellent results...
@RC75
@RC75 4 жыл бұрын
Douglas Paul If your Z7 doesn’t give you big enough prints no camera will do. You can make prints as big as you want ... if you take a good photo. It’s all about viewing distance.
@ajalbetjr
@ajalbetjr 4 жыл бұрын
A fair and honest video... I'm a Sony user but admire how Nikon's images look, and also am wondering how Nikon manages to 'squeeze a little bit more' out of the Sony sensors they use in their cameras than Sony does lol! You truly seem to be 'torn' between the two... Btw the A7R IV feels fantastic and it's autofocus IS a jump from the A7R III; this camera that originally was trashed for being a 'minor upgrade' has a lot more going on underneath the hood than people (including me) originally noticed and is now getting the credit it deserves.
@stiker2008
@stiker2008 4 жыл бұрын
As Nikon Z6 shooter I’m amazed with the quality of raw, ergonomics and overall build quality, but I’m definitely limited with small selection of native glass and almost no 3rd party options. Would love some small lenses for travel (like pancake or new tamron fixed 2.8 lineup) and some pro lenses in 15-35/16-40 and 70-200 range! Why did they even create $8k Noct lens...
@michaelgrevera1468
@michaelgrevera1468 4 жыл бұрын
Hearing him talk about Nikon reminds me of someone who recently broke up with their girlfriend, but still wants to be friends LOL
@azimjamal9726
@azimjamal9726 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Grevera LOL, this comment pretty much sum up the whole video
@RyanZNO
@RyanZNO 4 жыл бұрын
You nailed the feeling of this video. This could have been summed up with “You are great, we just have different needs.” 😂
@Crazy_Dashcam_Videos
@Crazy_Dashcam_Videos 4 жыл бұрын
It's not you, it's me.
@FikriZalani
@FikriZalani 4 жыл бұрын
Jared's voice is like a very mad dad talking to his beloved son
@BrettTooTall
@BrettTooTall 4 жыл бұрын
He's not mad, just disappointed
@howardshubs7157
@howardshubs7157 4 жыл бұрын
He clearly feels let down by Nikon. Personally, as an amateur shooter, I'm not too bothered by this. I shoot a D750, so the cutting edge he's used to does not concern me. But since he needs to make money with his work, he has to have what works best, and Nikon isn't it for him just now.
@novembergold4144
@novembergold4144 4 жыл бұрын
I don't really get it though. Aren't these all issues we already knew one year ago? One card slot, not a lot of glass, mediocre AF... I'm not a professional photographer by any means, but I am not sure what it is that disappoints him so much. And why is everybody in the comments suddenly acting as if it was Nikon's end? Could somebody explain it, please?
@FikriZalani
@FikriZalani 4 жыл бұрын
@@novembergold4144 because Sony lineups are just soooo good that those z6 z7 which supposed to challenge the Sony lose by margin
@MichaelCortese1
@MichaelCortese1 4 жыл бұрын
Your opinions make a lot of sense from a professional stand point, 2 sd slots, more pro glass, quicker AF. But from a hobbyist or amateur stand point I think Nikon is still the way to go. More comfortable camera, better pictures (in my opinion) , more affordable and VERY good glass with more on the way, better display, and Nikon has proven they are keeping up with the software. I still recommend Nikon over the bunch
@Sionicjustice
@Sionicjustice 4 жыл бұрын
There's a way to make the auto focus way better now. Monochrome KZbin channel tells you setting you can change so speed up the auto focus. I actually can use the eye af reliably at weddings.
@WSCOMPUTER
@WSCOMPUTER 4 жыл бұрын
Z6 is the Best camera for the money. Superior colors, white balance and ergonomics to Sony. And with adapters tons of manual great lenses rock on Z6. Especially voigtlander 1.2 35 40 50. Sony is all about great autofocus, but that's it. Nikon all the way.
@edrader
@edrader 4 жыл бұрын
sounds like you may be in denial man.
@frankabarca9189
@frankabarca9189 4 жыл бұрын
You are 100% right Michael Nikon is the best you just have to give them a little more time and baby afro will stop talking nonsense
@ghostgrownmedicine7498
@ghostgrownmedicine7498 4 жыл бұрын
You smoking crack? Sony is head over heels better than Nikon Mirrorless. I would never recommend the Z system to anyone over Sony or Fuji.
@FrederickDunn
@FrederickDunn 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice explanation Jared! I have the full Nikon LIneup and have pre-ordered the new 70-200z lens. I do agree with your focus issues which is why I still carry my D5 for my fast-moving and low-light subjects. I hope that Nikon R&D takes your recommendations onboard. I think I'm nearing the end of my photography career (within the next 5 years I'll be video centered). So a complete shift to another brand wouldn't be wise for me. Chelsae and Tony Northrup say Nikon is about to fall off the map completely. Do you agree with that? What's the future of Nikon Look Like? Who knows... thanks.
@vokso11
@vokso11 4 жыл бұрын
Sticking to my Nikon DSLRs . The mirrorless system is not mature enough yet to make me invest. Moreover am still happy with what my gear can do. In the end people judge the result , not the gear. Great video Jared.
@craigupshaw1379
@craigupshaw1379 4 жыл бұрын
I love this... The camera companies continue to battle with the mirror-less markets and the price on the D850 will come down to a range I can save for. Right on!!
@christiandinero8083
@christiandinero8083 4 жыл бұрын
Same!! Got the d750 rn though!
@photo-markus
@photo-markus 4 жыл бұрын
Craig Upshaw you can’t go wrong with D850!!! I own it and love it. Z6 is superior in some aspects but D850 is fabulous too.
@charanis
@charanis 4 жыл бұрын
Love my 750. Worth trading up to the 850?
@ousi00
@ousi00 4 жыл бұрын
Or the D5. There's a charm about how quickly it did the mirror flip compared to all other Nikon DSLRs
@ItsWillLee
@ItsWillLee 4 жыл бұрын
@@charanis IMO, 100% yes...if you want to stay DSLR, for mirrorless majority of the people choose Sony. But none (Nikon, Canon, Fuji etc) are "bad"..IMO.
@angelyngrace6791
@angelyngrace6791 4 жыл бұрын
We've been expecting this news from you for quite some time. We are sticking with Nikon hoping for something good in the future. Until then we will be shooting with our D850 bodies.
@4partmedia
@4partmedia 4 жыл бұрын
Something good? Jared talks negative and now it's a bad camera? 🤦🏽‍♂️ Plenty of actual pro photogs using the Z system with outstanding results. Wedding photogs working 50 weeks a year type.. not a KZbin personsality. Have you seen how Jared edits his own photos in Lightroom??? 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️
@jeffostroff
@jeffostroff 4 жыл бұрын
FINALLY Jared THANK YOU! You finally pointed out my same focusing problem in AF-C Mode, I had been struggling with it for 6 months. No other Z6 reviewer has mentioned or shown it and I though I was screwing something up with my settings! Finally Hudson Henry told me to switch to AF-F Full Screen, but no more spot focus and it works better to focus on and track my face during movie mode when I have no one helping me behind the camera and I'm swimming blind, not seeing my face on screen. They really need Eye Detect in movie mode! Another stupid artifact of the lousy back and forth focusing in AF-C mode is that when trying to use the shutter button to focus, quite often it takes several freeze frame shots that I now have to weed out upon file transfer time. Now I switched over to back button focus, no more using the shutter button to focus. But they really need to fix this AF-C issue, they keep releasing new firmware, but won't fix the biggest auto focusing problem dragging this camera down.
@mygoodstuffreviewed
@mygoodstuffreviewed 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think the AF-C is actually really meant to be continuous autofocus as such, is it? I think it's badly named. And for video AF_F is the one that is meant to be used. As far as I can remember from what I've read, AF-C is more like what used to be called predictive focus - if you hold down AF-ON or the shutter button it will keep focusing and should help to get an object moving towards or away from you into focus at the point of actual exposure. For following a face/person AF-F should do the trick, as you've pointed out, but Nikon say in their own blurb that that's for video, not stills.
@mgotovac
@mgotovac 4 жыл бұрын
Sony has great cameras and I hope you will be satisfied with it. I want to comment some thing you mentioned in your video that I find not true from my perspective. 1. Z monut glass. FTZ iz the key! All my FX lenses work great with FTZ adapter. I have f/1.4 lenses and shoot with them. I really don't know what should I do when Nikon release faster Z glass but I am not willing to replace all my great FX lenses just because of new mount. Moreover because I use FX camera as my second body. 2. I really don't now what kind of problems people have with Z6 focusing system (I presume everybody has latest version of camera firmware). For example, I just shoot one Christmas event with Tamron FX lens and FTZ adapter. About 400 pics, most shoot with eyeAF. Maybe 10 or less were out of focus.. I am very satisfied how AF is preformed. It really confuses me when people complaining about AF..
@CallMeChato
@CallMeChato 4 жыл бұрын
All Jared is saying is get the right right camera for the job. Cost is also a big factor. For me M43 was the right choice. How weird is that?
@OrdinaryFilmmaker
@OrdinaryFilmmaker 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Jared. I think 2020 is going to be Canon's year. They are either going to flop or produce some amazing products. After the October 24, 2019 development announcement, I believe Canon will deliver this year. They will put away the cripple hammer. I am not so confident with Nikon. Panasonic and Fuji will also hit strong in 2020. As a new KZbin focused not he ordinary filmmaker, I am excited and looking to buy a new full frame camera. Tell me what you think. I'm stuck at 171 subs after 2 months... :(
@77dris
@77dris 4 жыл бұрын
Ordinary Filmmaker Sony cripple hammer cripples their lcd screens and body ergonomics. Canon cripples their full frame 4K though that won’t be a thing any longer. Canon has crushed everybody when it comes to lenses but sadly they are not affordable. The new bodies will lead the pack in most ways but will be extremely high priced I think.
@edrader
@edrader 4 жыл бұрын
RF L lenses are priced similarly to new EF L lenses -- i.e., I paid $2400 for 24-70L II upon release.. I believe soon canon will release consumer RF lenses.
@OrdinaryFilmmaker
@OrdinaryFilmmaker 4 жыл бұрын
@@edrader Every RF owner hope so ;)
@edrader
@edrader 4 жыл бұрын
the RF owners I know are mostly adapting EF L glass. i'm not interested in consumer glass but I don't require a lot of lenses. for me the current RF lenses -- 15-35, 24-70 and 70-200 is all I need but I am interested in seeing the f4 variants. right now the canon RF system offers no real advantage over what i'm now using. so i'm in no hurry. the thing with Nikon is they might not survive the next couple of years. the market is shrinking and Sony is growing. I think Nikon is in trouble.
@OrdinaryFilmmaker
@OrdinaryFilmmaker 4 жыл бұрын
@@edrader Yeah, there's nothing wrong with EF glass. Canon was smart when they release a cheap adapter giving us full functionality.
@thedarkslide
@thedarkslide 5 ай бұрын
It's 2024 and a Z7 can be had with six month warranty, used in excellent condition for round about USD1,000. Add a brand new 24-120 S and you have one heck of a mirrorless, high resolution landscape setup for just above USD2,000. There's nothing like this available at that price point at the moment.
@chesterjohnson4504
@chesterjohnson4504 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I am not a pro shooter and only a serious hobbyist. At 67 years I will keep my D700, D810 and the D4s. However if I was a pro shooter and much younger maybe I would make a change. Gutsy video. You are serious at times when needed but I still enjoy your easy and entertaining style as well. Happy New Year to you Fro...
@mgotovac
@mgotovac 4 жыл бұрын
Z6 is huge step over DSLR IMHO. I will point some key features you could find interesting. 1. EyeAF. Focus and recompose is history. Shooting wide open is great with Z6 eyeAF. 2. AF system and back LCD. Most of time a shoot looking at back lcd screen and rarely trough viewfinder (mostly in bright light). Here are reasons.. My eyes do not serve me as before, I must relay of camera AF system. I have ability to shot low, middle, and high ground. Shooting from head point is boring and limiting. Shooting with primes and holding camera in one hand give me ability to have some focusing range by moving hand and not to have to move myself. 3. IBIS. My prime lenses are now stabilized. Finally solve problem with my shaky hands. :) 4. FTZ..Work great. I have Sigma, Tamron and Nikon FX lenses and they all work great! 5. Low light ISO performance. With f/1.4 lens and Z6 I never need flash.. 6. Ergonomics.. do not need to elaborate this.. 7. Silent shuter, USB-C charging, XQD card speed, connectivity with android, jpeg from camera, etc..
@Gibson1976uk
@Gibson1976uk 4 жыл бұрын
Those cameras are wonderful!!!! just invest in more glass :)
@chesterjohnson4504
@chesterjohnson4504 4 жыл бұрын
@@Gibson1976uk Oh, I have plenty of glass. Another reason not to invest in a new camera mount system. Yes I like my DSLR bodies and for my needs they do very well. I do not think anyone can keep up with new technology now days.
@Pantheragem
@Pantheragem 4 жыл бұрын
@@chesterjohnson4504 Someone with a good "eye" can shoot circles around someone without that talent no matter what equipment is being used. Give a nat geo photographer a cheap point and shoot, and someone without an eye for a shot the best equipment in the world, and the nat geo photographer is going to come out on top anyway.
@ThomLodge
@ThomLodge 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jared for finally using the term "how I shoot" instead of blanket statements as though every photographer in the world my have these features. Everything is personal preference
@mathiasalbin380
@mathiasalbin380 4 жыл бұрын
this video hits excatly my concerns with the Z6 against the sony system but personaly i bought the Z6 as i believe in the future of the Z mount
@RaymondParkerPhoto
@RaymondParkerPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
Some fair points but my arithmetic still favours the Z system. I'm a semi-retired pro of over 4 decades and I've shot everything from 11x14 to 35mm of different brands. Since I have a few f-mount lenses and the adapter works well, I'm somewhat "invested" in Nikon. I also don't understand the obsession with wide-apertures. For most of my career, I hardly used f/1.4 or less. So, my next purchase will be the 85mm f/1.8S and a second Z6 body. Meanwhile, hoping for a more advanced Z body in the not too distant future that might rectify a few of the minor annoyances with the Zs now in production.
@blubravery
@blubravery 4 жыл бұрын
I shoot Nikon but I see nothing wrong with what you have said. The Z50 is the only camera that makes me want to jump because it seems they got the autofocus better. The complaints you have made have been complaints I have made as well. It seems both Canon and Nikon started their mirrorless offerings in the same boat but Canon is actually trying to right the ship while Nikon is just standing around
@kirk0831
@kirk0831 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you are right about Z50. As Jared said in the video Z50 is better than Z6 in terms of autofocus. It's the reason why I sold my Z6 and keep Z50. I love Z50!!
@yulifreed4988
@yulifreed4988 3 жыл бұрын
I have got a hard question for you, if you could only stay with one camera brand ( Sony, Canon, Nikon, Panasonic, Zeiss) for 10 years which would you choose ( only using native lenses )
@siarlp3691
@siarlp3691 4 жыл бұрын
Still in love with my z6, a shame not everyone can be happy.
@AjanProvocateur
@AjanProvocateur 3 жыл бұрын
This video is confusing since the Z6 DOES have a touch shutter so you don't need to move the focus points around with the joystick, you can just touch the screen where you want it to focus and it takes the picture focussed there. Why would you miss shots? Please explain.
@robertalagic9669
@robertalagic9669 4 жыл бұрын
Made a switch from Nikon d4500 to Z6 like 2 weeks ago, absolutely adore it. Even watching this video cant complain on Z6 the things I can get out of it blow my mind! For my hobby, I'm happy with my purchase!
@samker5491
@samker5491 4 жыл бұрын
Same, I got the Z6 and it's an amazing camera.
@kayjay3690
@kayjay3690 4 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best reviews I've seen on KZbin. It's a real help to have Jared break down the reasons for moving over to Sony while doing justice to the good points of the Z6 and its image quality while backing that up with his own shots. When you are looking to buy a camera, you can make a fairly informed choice if you do some research, but what you cannot do is make an informed choice based on years of experience and use of the cameras in the field. It's so helpful for Jared to provide that, speaking from his own extensive knowledge and experience.
@Hornbauer2010
@Hornbauer2010 4 жыл бұрын
I love that camera. Just switched from the a7iii and the nikon has so many advantages. I prefer the better EVF, Display, shoulder display, ergonomics, ibis, better video codec, bigger mount, weather / dust sealing.....Sony AF is a little bit better, but in real situations there isnt that much difference (except if you shoot fast sport or sth....)
@alksdng97834y
@alksdng97834y 4 жыл бұрын
Why would you switch from an a7iii
@lilnape2604
@lilnape2604 4 жыл бұрын
Nate C He said why haha
@oured77
@oured77 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, Sony just doesn’t feel good in the hand
@alksdng97834y
@alksdng97834y 4 жыл бұрын
Marc Nappier Ok, but the A7iii is still an extremely recent body. If he was with a Sony he must’ve invested in glass, therefore had to sell of that at a loss. Instead of doing that he could have upgraded to an a9 or waited for something else. I just don’t understand why you would switch from one new body to another, that are also in completely different systems.
@Hornbauer2010
@Hornbauer2010 4 жыл бұрын
@@alksdng97834y I only bought used lenses and sold it for exactly the same. I didnt lose a single euro :) And I wrote why I switched. A9 would be wasted money for me :D
@musicfromheart
@musicfromheart 4 жыл бұрын
Well, for Nikon’s first generation Zs, the wording sounds way too harsh. Three main issues this guy complained: 1) eye AF, I wonder if he was testing it with the earlier firmware since I found it to be quite good, adequately fast and accurate; 2) hunting back and forth before focus, I’ve rarely experienced it or was he using a different Z6/z7 model? 3) single card slot, so far has it been any XQD failure incident reported on the Z system after 1 year?? I only wish that the XQD cards aren’t so expensive.
@Hazard4Tactical
@Hazard4Tactical 4 жыл бұрын
Nikon still has the most beautiful image (even 10 year old cameras) but everything Jared says is true. Instead of focusing on external video they should next: 1.Do internal 10 bit like Fuji 2. Do a floppy screen 3.Dual cards 4.Compact lens adapter with screw drive for older lenses -and they will kill it.
@keithgoreham1463
@keithgoreham1463 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe 18 months ago that would have killed it. But not now.
@misteromsk7205
@misteromsk7205 4 жыл бұрын
@@keithgoreham1463 And now it is not so late
@view23015
@view23015 4 жыл бұрын
Love this style of "review" Jared - no goofing around, just the straight goods and by all accounts, a very thoughtful and honest personal opinion. I'm one of the 24 Canon EOS R users as I have a ton of Canon L-series glass, and I've been very happy. My gripe , besides the huge price drop that I've never seen before from Canon , is the delay is seeing a pro-sports mirrorless R body from Canon …. so far. I am waiting very impatiently for this so far, and have even taken to looking at an A9 if the delay keeps getting longer. I applaud how you did this, great supporting arguments, and you stated that you were speaking as a professional. Well done.
@percy9142
@percy9142 4 жыл бұрын
I just purchased the Z7 with the kit lens 24-70 and also bought the Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 sports. I‘ll mostly use it for portraits or landscape. At the moment I‘m really glad ablut my decision and I love the system so far. Yes I don’t like that there‘s no vertical grip and no holy trinity yet. That’s why I‘ll keep my D750 and maybe upgrade it in the future to the D850 or a newer dslr.
@TheNewTravel
@TheNewTravel 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't realise until this video just how good of a photographer jared is... some incredible shots!
@kiyoshim9593
@kiyoshim9593 3 жыл бұрын
I dont think hes a very good protographer. 0nly a sport photographer. but thats all. anyone can do that with a pro camera and a little bit of training. butbhes good at bashing nikon and getting money from it
@JuanSanchez-zz3me
@JuanSanchez-zz3me 3 жыл бұрын
@@kiyoshim9593 eh, he's done some good photojournalistic work too. And he used to use only Nikon. He just bashes on them now because they're falling behind compared to Canon and Sony. If he actually didn't like Nikon he would criticize them as much and would just let them fall off the market
@kiyoshim9593
@kiyoshim9593 3 жыл бұрын
@@JuanSanchez-zz3me photojournalism comes with the "journalism" he was a just a personal photographer for bernie and aoc. I dont agree that you need to be a good photographer for that. anyone with 1 week training and good glass can take these photos. why do you think heblikes canon 1dx? he can spray and pray.
@jehualguno1646
@jehualguno1646 3 жыл бұрын
@@kiyoshim9593 nah i dont agree With you
@kiyoshim9593
@kiyoshim9593 3 жыл бұрын
@@jehualguno1646 Try a D6 or an A9 with fast glass on auto. you will see
@juanmarmolejos6172
@juanmarmolejos6172 4 жыл бұрын
I switched to Sony and very happy with it but i still love Nikon and wating to see something more professional from them to come back.
@janpetterkristiansen5725
@janpetterkristiansen5725 4 жыл бұрын
I have stopped watching videos about equipment from all these so called youtubers, this video reminded me how nice it is not wasting time on this kind of content. It is much better watching videos about photography. Watching this video was a great reminder not to spend time on videos about equipment. Jared was much better in this one though. By the way, I have Z7, no doubt the best camera I ever owned, maybe the Sony is better, do I care? Not at all.
@BarryHull
@BarryHull 4 жыл бұрын
So what you’re saying is I made a mistake investing in Nikon Z system? 🙂
@who2u333
@who2u333 4 жыл бұрын
All valid points, but still wondering what Nikon will do with version 2 of the Z series. Can they be nimble enough to keep up with today's camera market? In lenses and camera function? I admit that I am worried. I have an A7S and am not really excited, but that may be due to learning a new camera menu system is VERY low on my list of fun weekend activities.
@lilnape2604
@lilnape2604 4 жыл бұрын
I’d personally like to thank Nikon for releasing affordable 1.8 lenses first instead of $3k 1.2/1.4 glass. The z mount 50, 85 and 24-70 2.8 are tops of their class and optically every bit as good or better than canons RF glass and considerably cheaper, lighter and smaller. A half stop of light isn’t worth $2k extra for me.
@jamesryan1939
@jamesryan1939 4 жыл бұрын
The desire for 1.2 glass came from film days when anything over ISO 1600 was all grain, todays cameras shoot clean up to 6400. So it is an advantage to have 1.8 glass to save weight and money.
@zaf9834
@zaf9834 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll see what 2020 brings. Nikon may have its issues but i still like nikon the best. I am sure sony has its issues too like its weather sealing. Would you use sony in hard rain?
@ghostgrownmedicine7498
@ghostgrownmedicine7498 4 жыл бұрын
Speaking from personal experience, yes, absolutely I would use a Sony in hard rain. I have both taken photos, and video from inside Hurricane Florence and Hurricane Dorian with my A7Riii. I've used it in blizzards, sand storms, dust storms, and even had it completely submerged by a wave, and it still works great. I have absolutely torture tested the weather sealing on my A7Riii, and I'm quite confident in it in any scenario.
@24Steevy
@24Steevy 4 жыл бұрын
yes, used it many times before, no problem
@24Steevy
@24Steevy 4 жыл бұрын
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@amiame115
@amiame115 4 жыл бұрын
@ghostgrown Submerged in salty water??
@24Steevy
@24Steevy 4 жыл бұрын
@@amiame115 Who the heck is submerge a camera to a salty water without an underwater housing ? Don't be ridicolous...
@joyibrand
@joyibrand 4 жыл бұрын
I invested in the Z7 when it came out and I agree with everything you said in this video. Thanks for making this - Nikon needs a kick in the butt.
@JIMN26
@JIMN26 4 жыл бұрын
Good review. But I've invested so much in Nikon FX Lens, I'm not sure jumping to Sony is worth the money. I mainly want to shoot 4K video and hoping the Z6 does this well?
@AK-de3ej
@AK-de3ej 4 жыл бұрын
Buy dedicated camera recorder. Everybody are shocked that Sony can record video. Where is the reason to buy very expensive camera only to have video recording capabilities.
@kaijan2808
@kaijan2808 4 жыл бұрын
Happy I am mostly landscape shooter. I love my Z6...and the images coming out of it.
@commandlion8667
@commandlion8667 3 жыл бұрын
Do you tweak the saturation?
@LeicaGeek
@LeicaGeek 4 жыл бұрын
I specifically picked the Z because of the lenses actually. The F1.8 lenses are amazing wide open and affordable/lightweight compared to what Canon and Sony is offering. The difference between 1.4 and 1.8 isn't as much as you think. Also I've shot kids running around and dark events and I've never had a problem with the Z6 autofocus. Have you set it up properly? The latest firmware (2.20) is very good and honestly I don't understand what all the negatively is for. I highly doubt that Bernie Sanders would have been more challenging to shoot with a Z than a Sony or Canon, that's quite ridiculous. I've also had dual card slots before in all my cameras and I never used them, I prefer the super fast XQD and now the CFexpress that can transfer an entire event in seconds at 1700 mb/s on my computer. No other camera can do that right now.
@jiripastrnak1936
@jiripastrnak1936 4 жыл бұрын
Yea the file transfer is super quick with the XQD reader ...
@adventuresofjandk
@adventuresofjandk 4 жыл бұрын
The negatively is for one purpose only and that is to get clicks and comments.
@Holtenstein
@Holtenstein 4 жыл бұрын
I bought the Z6 for the ProResRAW recording! You didn't even touch on the one feature that sets it above the rest. How can you fully review the camera without its firmware? FYI, ProresRAW turns off all AF. So... Oh well. Now, Sony's E mount is gonna be holding them back. It was designed for APS-C glass. By 2021 the Sony will need a new mount.
@jamiecoburn1231
@jamiecoburn1231 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever actually looked at the difference between 1.2 and 1.4 glass? There is almost zero difference. The E mount was designed for full frame...Clearly you don't know what you are talking about or you have listened to somebody that does not. Either way you are clearly misinformed.
@crinosil
@crinosil 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha....well...considering that Sony now has the most comprehensive collection of very highly reviewed and top rated glass for their FE bodies at all price points, I’d shudder to think what they would have done if the E mount was not “holding them back”....hahahahaha....
@Holtenstein
@Holtenstein 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamiecoburn1231 You missed the point. It's not that faster glass is necessarily better. It's all just marketing for the most part. My point with the mounts is that Canon and Nikon's systems are now more future proof than Sony's mount currently. Sony clearly has the better sensors and both Nikon and Canon need to step up. Sony does guard its cinema line bit rates and codecs against cannibalization.
@24Steevy
@24Steevy 4 жыл бұрын
just don't make fool of yourself petapixel.com/2019/03/06/sony-e-mount-lenses-could-be-as-fast-as-f-0-63-theoretically/
@crinosil
@crinosil 4 жыл бұрын
@Steve Holt... I think you miss the point that there already exists full frame f.95, f1.2 and f1.4 lenses for the E mount.... in fact the Sigma 35mm f1.2 lens is probably the best 35mm lens in existence today... give me an example of one way that the E mount is holding back Sony’s full frame lineup? It’s all bull as proven by the lenses already available for the mount....heck the mount even supports these lenses and 5 axis IBIS... where is the deficit of which you speak?
@TheEastbelfast
@TheEastbelfast 4 жыл бұрын
Can you please confirm whether or not you profit from Sony in any way ?
@ponnan1
@ponnan1 4 жыл бұрын
I have been shooting with my Z6 for almost a year. .He is absolutely right. 80% of the time, the focus works fine but a few times, the autofocus does act weird. For most people, that would be ok. But as a professional photographer, it is sometimes hard to justify. I was shooting with my Z6 at a corporate event a few months ago. The autofocus was working fine mostly. But some key moments at the event which was specifically requested by the client turned out to be out of focus pics because the Z6 decided to back focus.I had to apologize to the client. I am now seriously contemplating moving to Sony. I can't afford to let that happen again.
@winngh
@winngh 4 жыл бұрын
Is it that you don't know how to use focus point or what?
@WilliamBarrow
@WilliamBarrow 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe a “pro” depends on camera picking the focus and then complains about when it misses- as they all do.
@RobertFalconer1967
@RobertFalconer1967 4 жыл бұрын
@@WilliamBarrow Me, too. A professional photographer should be using single point AF and selecting their own point(s) ALL the time when things are mission critical. Pros don't rely on automation in every situation or for every task. Nikon's eye-AF actually works very well, overall. Not as good as Sony's, no, but they'll get there soon enough. Let's see what happens when Nikon's pro mirrorless body arrives. I have a feeling a lot of people will be staring at their computer screens, slack-jawed, wondering what the hell just happened ... kinda like when the D3 arrived back in 2008.
@ponnan1
@ponnan1 4 жыл бұрын
@@WilliamBarrow doesnt that depend on the scenario ?..what if you are required to do shoot unpredictable scenarios which happens in matter of seconds?...would you still use focus point manually ?
@ponnan1
@ponnan1 4 жыл бұрын
@@RobertFalconer1967 True.. Pros dont rely on auto AF on every situation...but there are plenty of fast unpredictable moments you cannot capture by manually using focus points....
@jmlr2011
@jmlr2011 4 жыл бұрын
Being a Nikon shooter (D7200 and Z50)and not a professional, I do not feel bad about my choices nor do I plan on changing brands. Not because I'm a fanboy but because I'm happy with what I have and enjoy using them. Jared has valid points for "his choices" and that's how it should be. If your upset with his changing brands, your missing the point of photography. It's more you than the camera, and who cares what someone else is using. Bottom line is are you making good images, and enjoying your craft or hobby. If not try something else that does.
@ericbradner6986
@ericbradner6986 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I can’t dispute much here, even though I’m all-in with the Z system. I thought long and hard about an A7III and an EOS R but just love the ergonomics, menu, button layout and overall experience of shooting with my Z6. But the four f1.8 primes, the 14-30 f4 and the 24-70 f2.8 are the perfect lenses for my needs. I hate adapting lenses, but since my Tamron 70-200mm f2.8 G2 is my only F-mount lens, the FTZ just stays attached to it, almost like it’s a part of that lens. I will admit it’s frustrating that Nikon hasn’t released a fast portrait lens, a macro lens or the 70-200 for the Z system yet. I can wait, but don’t want to wait too much longer. Nikon absolutely has to speed up its development and release of Z lenses.
@patfish3291
@patfish3291 4 жыл бұрын
same here. tested both and went clearly with the Z6 ...Only the Eye-AF is realy better on the sony
@escapewheel821
@escapewheel821 4 жыл бұрын
Hoping Tamron, Sigma, and Rokinon release Z-Mount versions of what they have for E-Mount. I hated the ergonomics of the A7III vs the Z6, and the EVF and IBIS of the Z6 are miles ahead. Really... give me some compact and reasonably priced lenses and I'm happy.
@TheBaldTruth1
@TheBaldTruth1 4 жыл бұрын
I also love the 1.8 primes. I don't want to carry a big honkin' 1.4 around. Today's cameras are good enough at high ISO, 1.8 should be sufficient for most low light shooting.
@dab7963
@dab7963 4 жыл бұрын
I almost bought a Sony. I looked through the view finder and hated it. Also had a ton of Nikon glass the guy at B&H recommended I try a Z6. This was back when it first came out and everyone was bashing the camera as a piece of junk. No regrets from me I love my Z6
@AngelBerniz
@AngelBerniz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jared, very good advice on photography. What about video? If you were starting from scratch with a Full Frame system for video, would you go to Nikon Z system?
@ThePhantomPhotographer
@ThePhantomPhotographer 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a z6 recently and I am a 50 / 50 stills and video shooter. I love the z6 for both. The eye detect is very good with native glass (with firmware 3.0) and the video autofocus works really well and is nice and smooth.
@Eltargrimm
@Eltargrimm 4 жыл бұрын
I think you made a good point here. You are a professional working under conditions different than me and many others. The limited native lens selection can have an impact on your work, as can other points of concern like a single card slot. I, as an enthusiast on the other hand, decided to move on to FF mirrorless and went with the Nikon Z system, despite not having any Nikon glass. I am so incredibly eager to see the Z lens line up develop. Their f1.8s primes all but blew everything else out of the water, including lenses that cost 3 times as much. I can only imagine what kind of images their pro f1.4 - 1.2 primes will produce. Plus, there was an intangible and completely subjective factor: The Z6 just felt right after 2 minutes of handling the camera. I wasn't able to say the same for Sony, Canon or Panasonic. I predict that you will be back shooting Nikon in 2 years, when their native lens line up is fleshed out. I do so because in this video, you sounded like a boy breaking up with a girl he knows he really loves :D
@Honkus
@Honkus 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty much my experience too. Had several trips to camera store to play with all current FF mirorrless. Coming form APSC I had no FF glass. Nikon Z had the best feel, ergonomics, interface and great lighter weigh glass that is excellent image quality. Being an enthusiast landscape and street shooter the 14-30 f4 and 24,50,85 are all amazing and quite light and reasonably priced. Best bang for the buck and it saves my back. Loving it. Eager for their lens lineup to fill out a bit more, eager for macro 105. I totally understand while professionals may be hesitant, but Sony having a 4yr head start makes them the better choice for them right now. Both Canon and Nikons first mirrorless is about as good as Sony’s 2nd or 3rd, and I think they will catch up quickly. I suspect a lot of Nikons shortcomings in Z6&Z7 can be fixed in firmware. Very happy new Nikon shooter.
@cooloox
@cooloox 4 жыл бұрын
It's funny you mentioned how the Nikon just felt right. That comes down to personal taste and had shape/size. I shot some images with a Z7 and hated the feel of it. It was sporting a Tamron 70-200 F/2.8 and it was so front heavy it was horrible to hold. The camera just wanted to fall forwards all the time. I wasn't keen on the grip either. I have very large hands and it was way too short in the grip. I 'need' a vertical grip on my DSLRs, so I definitely need one on a mirrorless camera. The Z series doesn't have a comfortable and functional vertical grip, they just a box that holds batteries. The other issue on the particular camera I tried, and on the Z6 a photographer friend of mine tried, was that the images on the EVF and rear LCD looked nothing alike. The EVF looked yellowish and dull whereas the LCD looked accurate and fantastic. As for lenses, Canon RF glass is knocking it out of the park. I watched a comparison between the Canon 15-35mm f/2.8 with the Zeiss 35mm f/2.8. Zoom VS prime. The Canon was sharper in the centre and significantly sharper at the edges and in the corners. Both lenses were similar in price.
@Honkus
@Honkus 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, for sure I agree a lot of camera shopping comes down to personal taste about the feel of a camera. I'd recommend highly people hold and use any camera for some time in a shop if at all possible (or at least make sure online purchases have a good return policy). Like Jared has mentioned you can get good images on pretty much any modern camera and it all comes down what fits your needs. In my opinion, I think you will be best off with native z glass both for performance and feel/balance. I have tried a few lenses with FTZ adapter and they do work perfectly fine but they definitely didn't balance well. I'd bet the Z 70-200 2.8 will feel much better when it comes out...soon hopefully since it was promised by end of 2019. Adapted lenses will always have compromises. I can only hope Nikon opens up their Z mount to Sigma and Tamron soon so they can build native glass to have more glass options. I thought I had heard a rumor of another grip coming out with more function than just holding batteries and using blue-tooth to trigger the buttons since you can already do that with remotes as it is, it should be easy enough. Even though I don't need grips myself, I totally agree it is an oversight and more of a reason these are really profession cameras as they are now. I agree the EVF was a bit odd out of box, I fiddled with settings a bit and it is closer to LCD but still not as good. I didn't see a yellowish dull tint with my LCD and it was quite sharp, but it was just dark and didn't seem to adjust appropriately. I adjusted levels on mine and added that to MYLIST to have easier access. The External LCD screen is quite excellent and one of the best out there. I do agree RF glass is amazing, but comes at a hefty price and it HUGE to boot. Was out of my price range to drop $2k+ for each lens (except for the 35 or the variable aperture zooms). Canon is defiantly killing it with their initial glass going for the professional, I'll be curious if they do drop the R mark II in 2020 as there are rumors swirling for that already.
@davidf6326
@davidf6326 4 жыл бұрын
@@Honkus I might be wrong Michael, but my understanding is that Nikon never 'open up' their mounts to third parties and that Tamron and Sigma instead have to reverse engineer the design using samples of Nikon's own lenses, which is why they take so long to come to market. That said, I share your hope that - by whatever method - Tamron and Sigma have some offerings soon, though not simply their current lenses modified to incorporate an FTZ adaptor, which is the solution some people suspect will emerge, at least initially :-( I currently have a Z6 with just the native 24-70 f4. It's incredibly sharp for a kit lens (albeit a somewhat premium 'kit' lens), but the combination is a little restricting and I'd like some lenses with a bit more reach. I'm also just about to invest in a Z50 (if they ever come back in stock!), as a travel camera and would love to have the Z equivalent of the Tamron 16-300mm that I've used with my APS-C DSLRs for several years now.
@Honkus
@Honkus 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidf6326 Z50 is very interesting and a great deal if you get both lenses. Keeping on my radar as a second body option for my z7. Won't be traveling until April so going to wait until then as who knows what may change by then as far as options and deals. Hoping some of the focus improvements people are talking about with Z50 show up in firmware updates to Z6/7.
@dayswithais1009
@dayswithais1009 4 жыл бұрын
Jared!! Long time lurker, long time fan. We here at Right up My Creek want to thank you for all of the camera reviews, information and videos that helped us Military nobody's, get up the nerve to start our passion of filming comedy sketches. I started this "brand" when I was stationed here in Japan in the latter part of this year. While my editing skills and graphic designs skills are on par, filming eh not so much. I have spent the better part of two years not only with your channel, but many others, understanding the world of film and lighting and blah blah. Our first video is almost completed and we are excited, but nervous. This post is merely a CONGRATS on your achievements and another thank you for what you do. You have definitely inspired us to get out there and work hard at this. Who knows, it may take off, it may not. Either way, we will have the memories of trying out our dream instead of wishing we would have started it. I hope 2020 brings more success Jared. We love you from Okinawa Japan!!
@LAAM619
@LAAM619 4 жыл бұрын
After 21 years of shooting with nikon ive built up quite a bit loyalty to the brand but i have to agree with this opinion. Im still gonna stick with nikon while im still using DSLR's but when i am forced to go mirrorless it will be sony.
@tomariko
@tomariko 4 жыл бұрын
Same here
@cessealbeach
@cessealbeach 4 жыл бұрын
11 years with Nikon, including the Z7 , with Sony mirrorless now, sony the focus is dead-on
@AshBashSneakers
@AshBashSneakers 4 жыл бұрын
andrademeza because?
@misteromsk7205
@misteromsk7205 4 жыл бұрын
@@cessealbeach what you mean "dead-on"?
@Mr09260
@Mr09260 4 жыл бұрын
@@cessealbeach and Ergonomics and Image Quality and Colour ..Nikon Rules Bro
@jhoang861
@jhoang861 4 жыл бұрын
i’m curious if someone can answer this. But now that the mirrorless cameras are less clunky and lighter, why are the lenses so huge? Does it offer something more that I don’t know about? Fujifilm lenses are small and does well. Can somebody please explain this to me. I would really appreciate it! ✌️
@Selmancer
@Selmancer 4 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons why the lens are large is due in part to the diameter of that particular camera brand's mount system. Fuji x-mount is 42mm in diameter, while Canon is 50mm and Nikon z-mount is the widest 55mm.
@Paulsoderberg
@Paulsoderberg 4 жыл бұрын
Your new style, more relaxed and less screaming. I like it, a lot. Thx.
@marks9518
@marks9518 4 жыл бұрын
I have been using the Z6 for a few months now and love it. I do not need an F1.2 or F1.4 lens. I need quality, affordable glass that will last for years. I've shot everything with glass no faster than 2.8 and have done astro-photography, sports, and landscape work, in addition to news photography with the Z6 and find a few areas for improvement but it is still the best camera I have ever used. This includes a lot of Nikons, a couple Canons, and a couple Sonys.
@lifestylevisualz
@lifestylevisualz 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I invested with my D850 last year when I did, I don't need anything else.
@lifestylevisualz
@lifestylevisualz 4 жыл бұрын
Be Free TV 50 1.8, but if you want portraits, get the 85 1.8, can’t go wrong with either.
@lifestylevisualz
@lifestylevisualz 4 жыл бұрын
Be Free TV yeah I was thinking something nice and within a good budget , but if you can get the d850 you can most likely get great glass, so yeah 24-70 2.8 is a good start
@TheRedrusso
@TheRedrusso 4 жыл бұрын
Me too. I am not letting go of my d850. It is a mean, mean machine.
@lifestylevisualz
@lifestylevisualz 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheRedrusso I love it!
@220010722001
@220010722001 4 жыл бұрын
I own a newish Z6 and am very happy with it . This is after 18 months of struggling with Sonys, an a7III and a7rIII. My main interest for around a year has been wildlife, particularly birds. With the a7rii and 100-400GM and birds in the air the auto focus acquisition and tracking were to often sketchy with an excessive percentage of missed shots. Enter a used Nikon D500 and 200-500 5.6 lens and my success rate skyrocketed. The other factor leading to my abandoning Sony was that the color is so much more natural to my eyes and post processing is far quicker with results that are more pleasing to me, particularly the Z6 files obviously. I recognize the shortcomings of the Z6 don't find them as big a hinderance to my photography enjoyment as those of the Sony, which I still own by the way.
@malcolmwhyte5868
@malcolmwhyte5868 4 жыл бұрын
I understand brand loyalty, I really do, but what I don't understand is why everyone is ripping on the fro? Is what he saying wrong? Has he exaggerated any of the flaws he points out in the videos? Is he being paid to swap to sony? Has he said he will never go back to Nikon if they make a better pro mirrorless camera, and glass to accompany? The answer to all the nay sayers is.....NO. I applaud the fro for giving an honest review of what he likes and dislikes about these cameras, and if you pay attention, he also says he doesn't like the screens on the sonys, and that canon is the sleeper in the bunch. If you dont like HIS honest, professional OPINION, then there is an unsubscribe button, and I'm sure there is someone on youtube more aligned to your way of thinking. Keep up the awesome real world reviews fro, and please make more podcasts, they are always a pleasant treat to listen to at work.
@andyboa8107
@andyboa8107 2 жыл бұрын
How is it now in 2022? Any changes through software to the speed and accuracy of AF system? I have been thinking of buying Z5 or used Z6.
@MasonMenzies
@MasonMenzies 4 жыл бұрын
Not Angry. And I completely agree. I just bought a Z7. And I only had one piece of Nikon glass when I bought it. It entirely depends on your genre and subject of shooting, so I completely agree. The Auto focus and glass on the Sony side, is superior. Not to mention the dual cards and the actually useful grip. But, I went with Nikon, because as you said, the RAW files in my opinion, are better for my work. I don't need to shoot sports or even portraits. Most of what I shoot... Are Rocks. I'm a 3D asset developer, using Photogrammetry to reconstruct point clouds and textures from images. And for me, the Nikon body gives me the best results for that workflow. And still provides me with good enough performance for on the side hobby landscape photography. My recommendation, if you don't have any glass or system bias yet, don't jump right to Sony, Nikon or Canon. Rent one of each for a day or a week, use them in your application, and then make your decision. For me that happened to be Nikon. But, for a lot of people that will be Sony, or even Canon. All depends on your use case. So, I agree completely, and as someone who just dropped hard earned money on a Z7, I am not close to being angry or chapped. If the camera you have is working for you, than be happy! You don't have to sell and switch systems.
@cas7155021
@cas7155021 4 жыл бұрын
Nice Video Jared. I am a Nikon shooter and mostly cover travel, street and environmental portraiture. I regularly give talks to camera clubs and look at a lot of real world high end amateur photography in national/international exhibitions. I have just sold my D5 and D850 having returned from a trip from India with the Z6 and Z7. I have to say the results with these cameras are superb and I find the new z mount 24-70 f2.8 is fantastic in practice and compares favourably with prime lenses. I don't us eye autofocus and find I have trained myself to hit the spot even with the Nikon 105 f1.4 at f1.4. If I shot sports or flying birds I would be tempted by Sony but for me the the ergonomics and the images I get with the Zseries make me want to stick with Nikon. I am not worried about the single card slot.
@oured77
@oured77 4 жыл бұрын
I’m not a Pro, but I just have 2 much invested in Glass to jump ship now. I’d lose over half my $$, I’ll keep using my Z6 and d810.
@gamingchannel-gh2wh
@gamingchannel-gh2wh 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't sound like a pro to me.. As a pro goes where it's @ @ any costs..
@TCGhits
@TCGhits 4 жыл бұрын
Chad Graves I don’t blame you. Nikon will release better “Pro” Mirrorless camera. I still use my D610 and D810. I will get a Mirrorless when Nikon improves with Mirrorless.
@keithgoreham1463
@keithgoreham1463 4 жыл бұрын
Just be careful not to fall for the sunk cost fallacy. You have to look at what the best use of your money and lens assets is going forward. I didn’t go with Sony, but I took a long hard look at both Nikon’s current and long-term trajectory, and determined that the Z-System will ultimately fail due to Nikon’s inability to establish a full professional system of native Z-Mount glass before its competitors do. Canon has almost covered the basic pro lenses, and we’re just waiting on a pro body from them. The L-mount alliance (my choice) is nearly there already with pro bodies/lenses, and will have a mostly complete system in just 15 more months. Sony, of course, is already a mature system. So what can Nikon hope to do against all that, when they’ve already badly mismanaged their available time and resources on ineffective product strategies?Look at Nikon’s latest financial report. The Z-Cams aren’t selling now, and that’s not going to improve going forward as the competition races by them. Which means that if Nikon survives at all, it’s going to be falling back to being a DSLR-only business within 1-2 years.
@edrader
@edrader 4 жыл бұрын
yep. the pie is getting smaller and Nikon does not have the resources to compete with sony and canon. they are getting crushed which does not bode well for their complete photography business.
@raskolnikov1873
@raskolnikov1873 4 жыл бұрын
Me too
@anthonyhall9453
@anthonyhall9453 4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding Presentation Jared. A well written review making strong yet balanced statements with supporting evidence. I like that you've changed your delivery this time. I'm not suggesting you only present this way, but it's refreshing to hear you present in this manner. Similar earnestness and sincerity to the presentation you did about your dear friend who passed away. Loved it. Well done.
@MKNYC_
@MKNYC_ 4 жыл бұрын
I went Sony over Nikon because I was able to get an A7III and a brand new Tamron 28-75 f2.8 for under 3K. The Z mount needs third party lens support asap, and unfortunately Nikon is late to the game and needs to get Sigma, Tamron and others their mount specs so they can start building a real full frame lens lineup. This has been said before but I feel like it isn't emphasized much, but native glass on a full frame is so much better than adapted lenses.
@Matti6950
@Matti6950 4 жыл бұрын
Agree, i made a list of things i like about Sony, Nikon, and dislike. Nikon was a lot behind, but noone was a dealbreaker in the way of that it couldnt be fixed in future if the company works hard. However one thing was: Sigma (and tamron, samyang, everything!) support. I love my Sigma lenses, i love their niche (Sigma 35mm f1.2 art), and now it's available with open source AF (more accurate then ever). Just ordered Sigma 14-24mm DG DN for E-mount! Even if nikon makes one, gonna cost double as much. And AF is very good from what i see. I'm also very interested in the 35mm art F1.2. And no, i always mix oem glass with third party glass, i pick wichever suits me best. I now have two Sony GM lenses as well (24mm F1.4 and 24-70mm). But also, i tested Z7 in a shop, and didn't like it's ergonomics, after all the comments on the net it surprised me. When i later touched A7RIV, it was the big confirmation: I like Sony at least as much as nikon (ergonomics). Button wise i don't like nikon Z7, to much functions hidden away, that cannot be put to a button (even the turn wheel on sony can have 3 functions in 3 modes). Overall Sony made some good moves, but they (like any manufacturer) still have things to win: Lossless compressed, better screen quality, no menu lockup during buffer clearance, stuff like that. But there's so much other issues, that plagues nikon, Sony has fixed: like good buffer, battery (not that nikon is bad, but sony one is insanely good), double card slot, enough customization buttons, pixel shift, etc.
@paoloandrenelli5512
@paoloandrenelli5512 4 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right. I was very close to choose the z6 also for the good promises of video in raw with the external atomos recorder. But at the end all those minus you listed, made me deciding to divide my equipment between sony and blackmagic. On more reason is the bigger accessory ecosystem that they have built around them ( cages, handles, gimbla adaptations, log and luts ) wich Nikon does not have.
@ItsWillLee
@ItsWillLee 4 жыл бұрын
If you watch at 1.25x speed, the "old" Jared comes back. 😁
@froknowsphoto
@froknowsphoto 4 жыл бұрын
Ha. I had to do 2x to watch it myself.
@gauravthephilosopher2742
@gauravthephilosopher2742 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Jared, How are you ? I want to know your view on buying a new full frame camera for still photography. What do you suggest Nikon d850,780, z6 or z7 or Sony camera or canon mirrorless ?
@BoostLeekdMedia
@BoostLeekdMedia 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you about Nikon needing to get more Z lenses released. Canon and Sony's mirrorless lense line up is insane and I wished Nikon was doing more 'innovative' lenses. I've already invested in Nikon lenses so I don't see a reason to switch. Great video Jared! Diggin' this video about your in-depth experiences with the Nikon Z cameras.
@elradmanafov9822
@elradmanafov9822 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video. Any ideas which camera does a better low-light photos and videos (A7 III, Z6 or EOS-R)? 🤔
@Sabbra
@Sabbra 4 жыл бұрын
That is Crazy... before mirrorless camera everybody was shooting sports, events and everything else just fine...now look like we need this af system so bad that if you do not have it, you can not make a damn good picture... Sometimes we forget that most of the greatest pictures that we have are from 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago...we forget that a good picture is more than a nailed focus or this tech talk And Everytime a see this discussion a feel that we are doing everything wrong...
@HoustonBrownPhotography
@HoustonBrownPhotography 4 жыл бұрын
I say that exact same thing every time. hat is wrong with just putting the focus point in the center and composing with the camera? That has worked for me for as long as I can remember. I realize that has more to do with what you are shooting but seems like that would work just fine for portrait. It's not like your subject is moving all over the place.
@Thunder1976NL
@Thunder1976NL 4 жыл бұрын
What I see when all are raving about fast eye-af, are they becoming lazy photographers? When looking at these videos when they are working, they all look point and shoot shots. They might like it now, but there is a downside to the ease of eye-af. In the next few years, every amateur can make the same shots with absolutely no effort at all. After saying that, the z-series z6 and z7 are the first ml cameras from Nikon. And most of us know that 1st Gen products are never the best iteration, no matter which brand you use. I do agree that Nikon need to step up their game. Not having a 70-200 f2.8 and other workhorse lenses with z-mount available is downright stupid. Having a decent eye-af is mandatory to be able to compete with the other brands. I still really like my D500 and for now, my only upgrade camera that I consider is a D850. I might go for a mirrorless in the far future, when all the kinks have been worked out. Till that day, I don't need eye-af or focus peaking. I do most of my photography without eyes on the subject and I want to learn to work without these features.
@pres13vt
@pres13vt 4 жыл бұрын
@@Thunder1976NL So camera makers should make their professional products more difficult to use so that amateurs can't get good shots from them?
@Sabbra
@Sabbra 4 жыл бұрын
@@pres13vt no, we should Focus on compsition, lights and everything else
@willywenderdel681
@willywenderdel681 4 жыл бұрын
that's right!
@DavidRodriguez-ci6dm
@DavidRodriguez-ci6dm 4 жыл бұрын
great review Jared. would you consider Sony better than nikon for real estate as a camera that could do both Photo and Videos? Thanks in advance
@fzeo
@fzeo 4 жыл бұрын
14 months ago i made a move to sony from nikon. still, i miss the nikon color for certain shoot/environment/genre.
@adrianvanleeuwen
@adrianvanleeuwen 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, the one best thing about Nikon is the color science in the camera software, and some of the great cam features and Nikon lenses. That would keep me there and add a Z6 and I already have a D750 I won't be selling. I'll use both.
@adventuresofjandk
@adventuresofjandk 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Sony’s color science is garbage. Hence the reason very few actual professional photographers shot with it.
@michaeldelrossi4487
@michaeldelrossi4487 4 жыл бұрын
I will keep my Nikon D800E DSLR System until something better comes alpng?
@ahahahah9629
@ahahahah9629 4 жыл бұрын
merry christmas, guy. good thinking on the zs. I have a z7 and I had a a7r2 and have an a6500. The problem i have with sony's is that I designed touchscreens, actually have patents for said designs, and just loath sony cameras despite whatever other technology marvels they contain. I have noticed that yourself Tony and his wife, Matt Granger, the angy photograpner, in fact most of the you tube pros really use the evf and the touchscreen is something you comment on as part of your youtube responsibilities. I ditched my d850 for a z7 because of the ergonomics, i knew the autofocus was weak, but i could touch the focus point on the screen and fire, who needs to set the focus point? Autofocus it not that difficult. Even eye autofocus. Look at portarits you took ten years ago with a film camera. I'll bet the eyelashes are vey clear in the majoiity of shots. Mine are, anyway. This is Nikon mismanagement. Take the d850 team and move them to the z system. Good video and have a great new year!
@Lion_Hamza
@Lion_Hamza 4 жыл бұрын
Which camera would be better to get into photography? I’m considering the Fujifilm X T4 or the Sony Alpha 7 iii. Lowlight photography would be a part and many human and Dog pictures plus outdoor. What’s better suited for a beginner?
@howardmittleman7019
@howardmittleman7019 4 жыл бұрын
You can hear the sorrow in your voice. No one should be upset about your comments at they speak the truth and what you do should be helpful to all. Thanks for doing this. It is appreciated and I AM a NIKON person.
@tobinwazzan
@tobinwazzan 4 жыл бұрын
I seem stuck with Nikon with now. Any hope that the Z7 will get up to speed through software upgrades?
@carplay5454
@carplay5454 4 жыл бұрын
Great review! I switched from Nikon to Sony for a year now. Everybody has their likes and dislikes for everything. Sony's AF system is why i switched and haven't looked back since. Yes, the viewfinder isn't the best like Nikon's. But, at the end of the day, i get the shots that i need and the people are happy with their images.
@russellschundler6559
@russellschundler6559 4 жыл бұрын
IMO ... the main criteria for system selection, and you reinforced it, is how do you use your camera. For landscape photographers, the Z-system is great. The only issue I have, as most of my F-lenses have been replaced by Z-lenses, is the absence of the 70-200mm F/2.8 lens. Sooooooo frustrating!
@patfish3291
@patfish3291 4 жыл бұрын
If you watch too much KZbin you feel like Eye-AF is the only important thing on a camera - but its not! :D ... Thats the oly category Sony is realy ahead (the lens problem of new systems is already 2021 obsolet) Only pro real photographers are interested in the new 2500$+ RF lenses ...but Canon offers no pro RF body for them???? (what a silly plan) ... Nikon offers "prosumer" body's + prosumer lenses that's a plan I can understand ;-) ...Nikon professional have only to wait until next year for that pro body + pro lenses. By the way the Z6 can now record ProresRAW! ...which Sony camera can do that? :) PS: XQD or CFExpress is way saver than the old SD cards! ...on CFExpress you can only destroy the last picture at an error but not the hole card like on SDs! That's more than enough for prosumers!
@ginadimaano3381
@ginadimaano3381 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think Nikon D780 is a better camera when it comes to Auto Focusing?
@JohnDrummondPhoto
@JohnDrummondPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
I'm vested in Canon and as an amateur not made of money, I'll either stand pat or go mirrorless with the upgraded R (whenever that happens). If starting from scratch, or if I hit Powerball, I'd go Sony. Your review was fair and fanboys need to settle down.
@kenjiyamamoto796
@kenjiyamamoto796 4 жыл бұрын
if your starting from scratch canon is the better option,. cheaper lenses,. cheaper body,. for photography,. if your main is video go to sony,.
@JohnDrummondPhoto
@JohnDrummondPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
@@kenjiyamamoto796 the body is cheaper now, yes. I love Canon glass although RF glass is $$$. Much as it pains me, though, right now the Sony A7iii and A7IV have a lot of features I wish the R had. But the R's flippy touch screen, ergonomics, and menu system though... OK, you're right. Canon for life! 👍🏾
@markhardycreative
@markhardycreative 4 жыл бұрын
I’m missing the trolling from fanboys all I see are comments supporting what Jared is saying?
@JohnDrummondPhoto
@JohnDrummondPhoto 4 жыл бұрын
@@markhardycreative I expected a lot of Nikon fanboy comments but you're right.
@kenjiyamamoto796
@kenjiyamamoto796 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDrummondPhoto for me, specs doesn't really works for me, i still earning alot of money using my rebel series camera,. and only using my fullframe in dark areas,. for me composition, edting skill, and creative minds matters the most, not the gear it self,. if your professional you know what im talking about,. you can still make great quality videos on 1080p with 60fps only,. and i always use manual when making my videos,. 120p is great to have,. but if your creative enough, you know 60fps works perfectly,. just on my opinion,.
@spaceshipdev
@spaceshipdev 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for great content. Don't you think 8:58 shows a much better skin tone and overall exposure from the Nikon than the rest?
@robiulahmed
@robiulahmed 4 жыл бұрын
As a Sony shooter and long time Nikon fan, it pains me to say, but the Canon Eos R makes way more sense than the Nikon Z system. I'm sticking with Sony, though. They have the lenses I need and do what I want them to do.
@BigBoss-gb4cx
@BigBoss-gb4cx 4 жыл бұрын
If you are a professional Canon might sounds better since it has f1.2 glass...now. But the Nikon 50mm f1.2 is coming in months and most likely will be better than the Canon. Also Nikon has the best kit lens f4 zoom and the best 50mm 1.8 lens. And the FTZ is fantastic. Also in an engineering viewpoint the Z mount is the best as being future proof for fast lenses. Imo Nikon is one step behind with glass but has clearly the best body and the best potential. And as a hobbiest Imo Nikon is the best milc even now.
@robiulahmed
@robiulahmed 4 жыл бұрын
@@BigBoss-gb4cx Yeah, if Nikon can survive it has the potential to flesh out their ecosystem and have the best overall system. The price point may be a bit high, though.
@gr33nDestiny
@gr33nDestiny 4 жыл бұрын
I’m about to buy an A7r iv and the 200-600. What I really want to know about is the best 300mm prime! Close focus and sharp
@DukeMorse
@DukeMorse 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly why I picked up the A7riv instead of sticking with Nikon as I have for the past 30 years. The EDU discount was pretty sweet too. I have not sold off any of my Nikon gear just yet; therefore, if Nikon does manage to pull their head out soon, I may switch back over as I have always loved their gear.
@oured77
@oured77 4 жыл бұрын
A new A7R IV is twice the cost of a Z6, I would hope it has better everything
@copybaste2637
@copybaste2637 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Jared! Did you get a chance to update the firmware to 2.2 and play with the pro-res raw? I’m wondering if it’s worth the $200 investment.. would love to see a review on that! Regardless, thank you for another year of fabulous content! Happy Chanukah, Merry Christmas, and a happy new year!! Looking forward to an amazing 2020!! Thank you again!
@coogee-uw9rk
@coogee-uw9rk 4 жыл бұрын
How much did Sony pay you? Nikon Z series is a solid system, there is no downside.
@bjnslc
@bjnslc 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Nikon could simply add the touch AF selection while using the EVF and I'd be thrilled for my shooting. Joysticks suck.
@LEXPIX
@LEXPIX 4 жыл бұрын
Mirrorless are great, but I still prefer the DSLR optical viewfinder on my D850.
@joeltunnah
@joeltunnah 4 жыл бұрын
LEXPIX, yes. It still can’t be beat.
@michaelshort2388
@michaelshort2388 4 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking of upgrading from my D800 to the z6. I considered the z7 but I must admit the low light capabilities of the D800 due to the high MP count is something that has been bugging me so I think the z6 with the FTZ adaptor is the way to go for me.
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