Speed-Build A Planet To a Factory (230 Solar Sails/s) | #18 | Dyson Sphere Program | Lets Play/Guide

[@kai.westerkamp]

There is a way to ensure the Thermal Power Plants are always running at full capacity: Separate them from the Main Power grid and charge accumulators with the generated energy (add one wind turbine to bootstrap the sorters). Then discharge the accumulators in the main grid. Because Accumulators are always discharged this guarantees the powerplants to work at full capacity. Its feels hacky but worked fine in my builds.

[@ianmcewan8851]

I do this a lot. However sometimes it does just move the management problem up a stage to how hydrogen is moved around. It works really well on an isolated single use planet like this though!

[@jgischer]

This is a very useful idea. We can set priority on splitters, so objects can be prioritized, like charged accumulators. So you can export power with this AND burn off the rest with nothing backing up, it would seem.

[@yanworkt]

and you even can use chest vertical levels with different outputs to have some sort or preoretized power - destinations. (for charged accumulators)

[@Harley002]

Accumulators really are the best. Ever since i switched to them i use them as the sole power source for all of my various mining worlds, which in tandem with the new advanced miner have made setting up new mining planets so fast. I still use a ton of fusion power on my two large scale factory planets tho. My hydrogen supply goes mainly into casimir crystals and deuterium production, but i like how nilaus burns it in regular combustion turbines, i hadnt really thought to do that

[@jasonmiles2422]

The proliferator was empty in the end. So none of the solar sail production facilities actually had any in stock. This might lower your production numbers over all :)

[@firedog2k9]

this! also, probably getting to the point where he isn't producing enough Mk2 Proliferators any more. I'm curios of the global usage statistics for those.

[@matttriggs1268]

@@firedog2k9 on his stream yesterday, Nilaus builds a big proliferator factory

[@AQJ_DK]

@@matttriggs1268 He only build a Mk3 factory though, we didn't increase Mk2 production.

[@derelicy1086]

3:05 This is part of the milky way galaxy map. Once you start producing enough energy, your local 'cluster' will light up its location in the galaxy map for you (or technically anyone) to find and look at. It just looks like an especially bright star, and i think that's the logic in the wording of the achievement.

[@davecrupel2817]

If only there was a way to travel between star clusters. That would be cool AF!

[@modularcuriosity]

6:00 Nilaus : "So little inventory space" Me: "I only have 4 rows" 😞

[@ThereWasATime]

Awesome video, amazing build speed. I'm quite speechless to see what you build in 50 minutes almost without cuts even. The idea to make this planet a local solar sail build from scratch is also very inspiring!

[@strongalloy]

Love the wicked fast mega builds! Definitely enjoy seeing the transition from the starter builds to these massive-scale production planets.

[@harbl99]

Nilaus: "We also have 16 hydrogen a second we need to take care of." Casimir Crystal: "Did someone call?"

[@redship7532]

Yeah but what if casimir crystal has backed up..

[@billnewtonactor]

Wondering if you could add a section to the planetary overview with the original name of the planet before it was re-named? It takes some detective work to figure out where to go if playing along, lol.

[@Nordie69101]

I agree it's tough. I have to click around and match up the system type and solar mass. In this case it was originally called "Cassiopeiae"

[@Chris_Pars0ns07]

hands down the best episode yet! so much done in one episode! loving the building up to end game

[@breytac]

Oddly enough, I had the idea of separating components into individual factories but wasn't sure about how I'd go about it. You've given me some ideas.

[@OmeletteFactory]

Enjoyed this design and build. Cheers.

[@tegirvaru]

what, no one mentioned that row of power poles on the bottom of the copper/iron smelter build that you copied 1-off both times? haha. that was a really fast and succinct video. very well done.

[@hoofa2000]

You want to know what I thought of this build? Wow is what I thought! What you achieved in 50 minutes is incredible.

[@ThomasG1971]

I really love watching these builds (both the normal ones and the time lapse ones) because they give me ideas for when I go to make my own builds... WAY more spaghetti in my builds lol

[@Ygolnac]

woot, I've followed your design but decided to go for proliferator mk3 for the sails, and i have to say this strikes the perfect balance. All the hydrogen plants work at full speed, all the hydrogen gets consumed, and the self balanced accumulator system takes care of the 200mw missing without requesting more charged accumulators from outside the planet. The system produced 14,3k sails/minute and i even ship away unused ores like silicon, coal and Optical crystals. Probably that more kick in power consumption given by the mk3 goo is what's missing for total H depletion without straining the balanced exchanger system. I'm not building absolutly anything else on this planet, It's locked down. Congratualation for your amazing design.

[@fijau]

Incredible how quick you can create massive builds in this game.

[@Galardomond]

Like a diamond in the sky is archived when build a dyson sphere / it generates power for the first time / passes a minimal threshold.

[@salemprompthous3820]

Basically, when the playthrough hits the leaderboard, which is when the dyson sphere energy production passes a certain number, determined by the leaderboard.

[@theatheistpaladin]

I just love how firing solar sails looks like fighting a war on the solar system.

[@GretchenDawntreader]

5:00 I'm just starting in DSP and this project is quite a while for me but I did not know you could pass fuel through fuel burners like that. Even a rank beginner can pick up tips from videos like this!

[@mrt5545]

My computer cannot really run this game unfortunately, but it is really quite nice to be able to follow along with your base! I got to interplanetary logistics and then there were major issues!!! Anyway I am commenting because I enjoy your content and your base building style, I am not so much a fan of how your videos are created segments. Like where you start talking about time lapses and stuff, it's not really why I am here. So I hope whatever is causing that doubt to bubble up in your life you have the strength to silence it! Either way I am likely to keep watching, because like I said I am enjoying what you create, so thanks!

[@djsyntic]

If you get much faster with your builds, instead of doing a timelapse with them, you'll have to run them in slowmo.

[@shadowhenge7118]

Since you wont always build a sphere you should have this planet stockpile enough sails for a quarter or half of one so it doesnt run idle.

[@Nilaus]

I intend to build a sphere around every named system

[@shadowhenge7118]

@@Nilaus Awesome! May I suggest then creating larger multiple factory blueprints at ratio where you can just stamp down all the production in larger multiple factory chunks? Its nice to set down individual factories. It's epic to place entire ore to product mega factories.

[@Fed3_]

you've misplaced a power pole in the first glass build

[@modularcuriosity]

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who misses things like that in my builds. 🙂

[@cainau]

And then copied it all over the place... It was bugging me all through the video.

[@RavenGhostwisperer]

Yeah, I am trying to keep calm.. ;)

[@Bloody100]

damn impressive amount of building for 50 minutes!

[@AIRGEDOK]

I'll be honest i don't see the value in the Blue proliferator spray. They are expensive in terms of carbon, and they only add an additional +5% production and more than double the power consumption of green proliferation. Why would anyone take +25% production at +150% power consumption when a green proliferator can give you +20% production at +70% power consumption. This is just in terms of the bonuses the construction cost for Blue spray is more than twice that of green spray. So you can get more that twice as many items proliferated at +20% than you can get at +25% so in actual fact you get less production with blue than you get with green because 200 items proliferated at 20% gives you 240. But only 100 items proliferated at +25% gives you only 125. In every way blue gives you less than green spray, You get less production because you can only spray half as many objects, the power consumption is off the charts in comparison. And while it requires twice as many resources to make green spray over yellow spray you get a significant boost to production, a 60% boost over yellow spray. Yet you only get 25% boost from green to blue and that means you are playing more than 4 times the coal costs to get twice the total production from yellow to blue. Plus you need titanium which could be use else where. At least green only requires coal to build. Maybe I am missing something but I see no value in blue spray.

[@Rogerfoulger]

my build so small in comparison but was great to watch

[@bevaninaustralia]

Hi Nilaus, would you ever to do a video on all the things wrong with DSP? you seem like a very positive person in your videos, never complaining much about the things that suck about this game. I would hope the developers are watching channels like yours to see what it good and bad!

[@Nilaus]

Making a video about what is wrong with the game would be a very short video. Besides that, negative videos are not the kind of content I like to create

[@bakyra4683]

Hey Nilaus! I really enjoy your channel, thank you very much for all the content. I was wondering if you ever consider doing a Dyson run without allowing the use of intra-planetary transport (across planets is obviously fine). I like exploring the options that become available for this game related to busses, and what shapes are fun to build for repeatable factories. Good luck!

[@rybiryj]

Amazing how fast you built this massive factory. Watch out or you'll become a speedrunner one day ;)

[@apgamer4053]

33:14 nilaus: the light here is blinding also nilaus it is alwase dark on my worlds .... BRA WHAT DO YOU WANT XDDDD

[@Nilaus]

maybe something between pitch black and blinding light...

[@justinkarnes3276]

*snorts effective solar sails* Energizing. YEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAA

[@thuzzle]

The 10M white cubes and 1 TW dyson sphere are the achievements that took longest for me. Problem is that my computer can't really handle too much, so when I had 120 cubes/s and one planet full of railguns constantly shooting sails my game was running at about half speed. Stopped building anything new and just let it run when I was sleeping.

[@yanworkt]

It really helps to turn of all the spheres and swarms. There is an option now.

[@jgischer]

I'm very curious about something. You used green assemblers throughout instead of blue, which presumably are available. I'm not a huge fan of Mk III Assemblers, but in previous playthroughs you used them extensively, IIRC.

[@adrianbednar8071]

Wery satisfying watching you :)

[@jeroenvdw]

Why don't you use mk2 smelters and mk3 assemblers? I'm not close to having the production of what you have but still got enough to make those for as much as I want. x1 resources though.

[@txstevenb4332]

Great episode! Loving the Timelapse format. Question Nilaus - I tried to use the "TegirVaru Sphere.txt" Blueprint but DSP says the file is corrupted. Has anyone else had this problem? I would sure like to use that awesome sphere in my game.

[@Nilaus]

be sure to download it first and then copy paste. Confluence does weird things with tags inside text files it displays. Maybe something like that. It worked fine for me

[@nicwilliams9709]

I tested it and it worked for me as well

[@Marvid236]

This is nuts! i like it.

[@petersonA95]

At 21:39 your iron comes out stacked as two from the logistics station, how are you doing this?

[@tonyc3858]

What I would like to see is what you do when the spheres are complete. Do you recycle the sail shooters and rocket launchers? Thanks for all you do!

[@michaelhanson5773]

I always thought you could build several layers of spheres so technically no need to recycle if you still can do that unless you want to build one at another location.

[@brohvakiindova4452]

@@michaelhanson5773 only if you can use that extra power, sometimes you have a single planet in a system so you're limited in terms of ray receivers

[@noahsilveira2239]

How come you use interstellar towers when you only provide the products locally?

[@michaellindsay1093]

You forget to paint all of this Maga build

[@javierzurera986]

Glorious

[@PhreshSpice]

I love this series and this episode is the reason why I play this game! I just have a question: what is the reason we need 230 solar sails per second?

[@that_one_guy934]

Solar sails are required for making dyson spheres; dyson spheres consume solar sails for example to cover the star, and redirect the energy to the collector which can then be beamed off planet.

[@successmeditations110]

Good build!

[@ericshaw6876]

What is a "full belt" of iron and copper? Thank you

[@jgischer]

Is there a link somewhere to Nilaus' planet google sheet he mentioned?

[@tobiasmuller9200]

How does He make the drag&copy of the assembler and replicators?

[@W122ard1]

Why not place fire ice checmical plants in both sides of logistic/liquid storage simmetrically? It will be perfectly mirrored.

[@Nilaus]

That is not how I build. You can see that I always build clockwise around the planet

[@joshuaporter1905]

Is there any reason to not use Mk III proliferators at this stage in the game?

[@SyverX]

what i think about it: not enough proliferators i guess

[@earllabule4349]

Love it! Keep it up!

[@TheFreeBro]

What does he mean when he says proliferation?

[@paxatronplayz8508]

new video :)

[@akaiwarp]

I could see in the stats that the prism consumption was way higher than the prism production (7400 for a production of 5182), so I'm wondering if something went wrong there?

[@alistair9337]

probably, the ILS or the line was full, so a bunch of machines can't produce until the line clears

[@michaelhanson5773]

This happens when lines are backed up and machines aren't running. The stats menu is great but i really wish it showed the actual production amounts and consumptions based on the build and not what is actually running... If you had tons of storage to burn through, like he did when he adjusted his limits late, it only counts the machines that are running.

[@EARTH-rg7ec]

When i saw you placing the thermal powerr plants i wondered, are you aware you can drag build in blueprint mode? just like furnaces and factories

[@Nilaus]

I guess you have not tried it with power plants. Doesn't tile properly

[@EARTH-rg7ec]

@@Nilaus i did not thanks for the info, im your worst enemy i power everything with mini suns :p

[@yanworkt]

@@EARTH-rg7ec they are to much OP )

[@danie8267]

How do u drag belts backwards

[@SergeiBash]

Do you perhaps know any tricks to improve performance? After 5-6 systems its slowly grinding toward 27-32fps and will go lower :_)

[@fare-5174]

The main performance hit is dyson sphere shells (panes made with sails), so try making designs with more rockets and less sails. The second main offender is belts+sorters, so make your builds more compact (share belts as often as you can, do not split your builds between several chunks/towers like Nilaus does, etc.). Other than that, it's all on CPU, so check if you're able to get more out of it (Turbo mode, overclocking, whatever).

[@brohvakiindova4452]

@@fare-5174 dsp actually makes use of gpu more than cpu, limiting fps to 30 and lowering resolution has far greater impact, cpu is never overloaded on my pc you're right you should eliminate unnecessary numbers of belts etc. speed proliferator potentially halves a lot of your production lines

[@fare-5174]

@@brohvakiindova4452 That is odd; the Performance tab in DSP is showing me a lot of CPU peaks in a large factory. So I guess my original point should be to check on that tab which bottleneck OP is facing and decide for himself how to address it.

[@brohvakiindova4452]

@@fare-5174 good point, I just read that more things are handled by the gpu than what you'd expect. Also hiding your local dyson sphere in game can greatly improve performance. I've also read that some people got better performance after starting the game and just hitting "apply" in graphics settings without changing anything

[@manelvinyesgiebel2085]

tik tok sound: "THIS... IS A WORK OF ART"

[@the1GeniX]

You are watching a master at work

[@enriqueff1966]

why is he using tier 1 arc smelter and tier 2 assembling machine?

[@tegirvaru]

because you want good vein utilization before you start using all the unipolar magnets (only 2 locations in whole galaxy) on the plane smelters (which you can just build double of), optical grading crystals are less rare but worth it for the convenience of using the advanced miners.

[@vaydendar]

Really enjoying the series and learning a lot. Have you ever thought of doing a minimalist play through where you restrict yourself to only building the bare minimum of equipment you need. Sure it would take longer to produce all the component parts and may lead to a longer play through and you would really need to focus on each step to get maximum efficiency and product from everything you build.

[@Nilaus]

Thank you. I don't find that idea appealing. I like building big and that would not be possible

[@vaydendar]

@@Nilaus They say "go big or go home" So i'll head off then :)

[@MrrVlad]

Can you blueprint foundations?

[@Nilaus]

no

[@ardbug9577]

Oooh Im a planet \o/

[@vrnvorona]

Why not make hydrogen cells out of hydrogen? More energy per hydrogen

[@Nilaus]

Because it is an extra productivity chain and the purpose was to burn it off so it doesn't jam the production

[@nicholasvoges2219]

Do you save these blueprints? :)

[@Nilaus]

not these ones. They are all pretty straight forward. I will save advanced blueprints, but not simple things like these

[@nicholasvoges2219]

@@Nilaus 🤣true. they are simple. but they would save me time, no matter. I will build them on the weekend 😃. Thanks for a fantastic play through, I'm really enjoy it

[@yassineyeh2539]

Extremely impessive!

[@biohazardindustrieswr697]

Why do you put the long range ships on things that only work locally? Seems like a massive waste. Then again you are rich so idk.

[@tegirvaru]

i was also going to ask this in the stream tomorrow, especially since the whole thing was specifically built to ratio, you would never leech parts for other builds

[@biohazardindustrieswr697]

@@tegirvaru Oh look its the tegivaru man himself

[@gloom_slug]

Why use mk2 assembler?

[@tegirvaru]

he said because he doesnt have a good supply of quantum chips yet or specific build for broadband. there was another silly reason too... (thought they were 1.25x instead of 1.5x but those are inane factorio numbers)

[@DarthTUK]

Zoomies

[@syzygy4702]

Maybe it would be easier to put your calculations on the screen as annotations instead of just talking through them? I appreciate you trying to explain your ratios but these parts of your videos are invariably confusing, hard to follow, and interrupt the building action. It would be so clear if you just flashed the calculations on the screen instead of trying to verbally walk us through them while building.

[@Nilaus]

I considered it and I understand the point. Part of the reason this was so fast was because I had

[@syzygy4702]

@@Nilaus Well thanks for considering it! It's just so nice to watch you build when you are getting into a good flow. The ratio explanations feel clumsy in comparison. It seems like it would be challenging (as a presenter) having to switch brain modes like that from visual-spatial to abstract ratio logic.

[@yanworkt]

@@Nilaus as usual its very natural and visual just to have there numbers on belt memos. Takes seconds really

[@casualbeaver]

13800 solar sails a minute damn (accoring to the title