NIN - Closer Synth Bass Sample FOUND! Synth Sherlock #1

[@SynaMax]

I forgot to mention that A Poke in the Ear Vol 2 also has some sounds from Silent Hill as well. In fact, the very next sample "Circular3" is used in "Don't Cry" from the Silent Hill 1 OST (albeit slowed down heavily). Also, I forgot to put down the filepath for the bass sample in the video so here it is: "Melodic\Synths\Radiation Synth\Beta Waves\circular2.aif"

[@samharvey7164]

Just spotted another sample from Poke 2 in Closer - Ambient Textures/noise/resurgence.aiff is used for the noisey pad melody that starts at 1:47 (more prominent around 3:03) There are bound to be others. Thanks for the great video!

[@linorow2835]

How can I contact Rarefaction? I wanna get Poke II, but I'd like to contact them first. There's no contact in their webpage. . . Please help :/

[@sablemarkova2896]

Trent liked the poke in the ear so much he hired the guy to vreate a gig of samples for downwarn spiral. Nut i never would have guessed the infamous closer bass is a sample !😅

[@digital_down]

This is as equally as brilliant as the Metroid stuff,

[@mybathroomstinks]

I subscribed seeing this video. This channel is the niche I've been looking for.

[@xeroxkilla]

Metroid AND nine inch nails?!?!?! This really is one of the best channels out there

[@sibbyeskie]

I’ve been programming patches for decades, deconstructed tons of stuff and made commercial sample disks. This one sound always vexed me. You can hear the close slap back delay, a low saw/tri horn like bass tone, and that funky wah filter overtone. But I could never match it’s distinctly perverted sound. It does not sound like a generic patch so that’s quite a surprise and a great find. Wonder if Trent even knows about this (many in the band were tasked with sample/patch creation leading to TDS)

[@Amangiechsin]

i love the descriptor of "distinctly perverted"

[@zalseon4746]

Holy shit dude, this is MASSIVELY helpful. We need more channels doing this sort of stuff. Frank Klepacki would probably just tell people what samples he used for command and conquer, but most of the other soundtracks that spiced up my childhood so much are so obscure by this point they're effectively lost to time in terms of how they were made and performed. There's an enormous wealth of creative potential by just knowing what libraries to look for and you're doing the internet and music a huge service, thank you, more of these videos please!

[@torley]

This is some tremendous sample archeology. SynaMax, I appreciate your Synth Sherlock work and look forward to future episodes. A lot of these 80s/90s-era CD-ROMs and whatnot have been forgotten in the mists of times, so I'm glad you're raising awareness that they exist and have veritable sonic gems still relevant to the present day!

[@kabulentnought]

Iggy Pop and Poke in The Ear, who would've thought? really epic discovery my man

[@Vitaphone]

Dont forget roxy music

[@iximusic]

Awesome sleuthing!

[@SynaMax]

Thanks so much! BTW, your NiN musical analysis videos are awesome, keep it up!

[@jhonj5702]

You have NO IDEA how much I appreciate this. I thought you were cool for the metroid stuff, but this? Dope af

[@cygnus_XI]

Now if only A Poke in the Ear wasn’t so hard to find. Luckily these things occasionally pop up on online stores, so it’s just a patient waiting game.

[@johannbaerenklau475]

I had no problem finding it at all.

[@armanddevries]

@@johannbaerenklau475 Where can I find this, having some trouble too

[@djvoid1]

Now we need the 'BA-NA-NA-NEOW!" from the middle!

[@Vitaphone]

I wonder if the source for Circular is a Moog Model D as I recreated the sound recently and it was 99% there and added a touch of delay. Great work! Any ideas on where this library can be found?

[@bveracka]

I know this is an old comment, but I'm glad I came across it. Recently I've been trying to recreate some sounds I've always loved and/or grew up with. That's definitely one of 'em. There are a lot of videos on Trent's sound, but none describing what he used for this exact part. If I find anything I'll report back. If you know anything and you're still out there, please share!

[@lundsweden]

Well I have a contribution. That weird sounding creepy piano at the end of the song is from a DX7 IID. I had one of these circa 2005, and tried out many sounds from the internet... only thing is I can't remember if this was a preset on the synth, from a cart or a downloaded patchbank (there are 1000sof DX7 patches on the internet)

[@SuperTed641]

I'll contest this to state the its actually piano recording from a Mellotron, Trent got access to a Mellotron at that time, specifically the same one used on strawberry fields forever, if you pitch down the piano sound on a Mellotron it sounds just right.

[@lundsweden]

@@SuperTed641 Nah, I actually found this patch for the DX7 recently. If I remember correctly, it was for the DX7II and was called Britepiano or something. It is 100% the same sound.

[@edwardburns7770]

Thank you so much for posting this! I downloaded the sample pack and it sounds IDENTICAL to the Closer bass patch. Also, I noticed that the files in the sample pack were "last modified" (i.e. published) on 25th March 1992 at 11:25am, which would be consistent with the samples being available in some form during the timeline for the production of TDS.

[@rushnerd]

Dude, awesome work! I'm surprised the sample was just one from a library. Can't wait for more of these!

[@cauchemarchemin]

Very interesting. Charlie Clouser (Fragile-era, SAW series, Numbers, Dead Silence) uses content from the 'Poke in the Ear' sample CDs as well.

[@intheblink]

Incredible! Great work, man! Makes me really want to find that collection.

[@user-qm6vz2zu8f]

Amazing !

[@Corruptinator]

Nice! Looking forward to see what other sounds or samples you could find.

[@mikesgone8231]

Doing gods work

[@ProblemForSolution]

I was trying to replicate the bass on various vsts and couldn't really do it. I figured it might have been the moog/obx weird mutation prototype that he had but it seems that's not the case. Good job.

[@Qliphirot]

How does that "library" thing works? I'm not a key player but I'm become more interested after NIN influence but I couldn't find how this library work.

[@djcj]

legend

[@TempoQuill]

I think this was the same sample that was used for the backing chords in Sleepy Rock's theme from Speedy Gonzales Los Gatos Bandidos.

[@PizzaProblems]

Love the show concept. Learned a lot!

[@amindlessidiot]

Oh, man. Awesome idea for a series. Can't wait for more. You might get inundated with requests though lol

[@amaurythewarrior]

interesting, so it's a sample? but it's probably initially created with a synth, though?

[@SynaMax]

Yes, that's correct.

[@MatthewDunphy]

Following up, the synth used to create the sample is a Minimoog

[@sammadden5540]

I for the life of me can't get the sample CD to run on my PC, tried all the translators

[@supersawheather]

holy shit that's rad nice job

[@Qliphirot]

How does these "libraries" work?

[@rottencorpse5971]

damn you're the best, dude

[@NicolasMelis]

awesome! 🎹

[@Str1ctur3]

I'm glad I learned this today and not back when I still held dumb elitist views about sampling.

[@schismpeople8336]

how do I find the poke in the ear to use this synth sound

[@SlyHikari03]

Does this mean Trent owned “A Poke in the ear”?

[@SynaMax]

Yes, that is absolutely correct. NIN is listed as artist that used the library on Rarefaction's A Poke in the Ear website. www.rarefaction.com/products.html

[@SlyHikari03]

@@SynaMax neat,

[@djvoid1]

Makes me want to play OG Doom

[@JohnWayne-vf5bs]

Yesses

[@dustyhill9379]

Help Me, cause I'm oblivious. What would play the sound files if this were located? Is it audio files to use with a Sampler? Or is there another way?

[@juliandetering3644]

what's the music in the background? super cool

[@ProblemForSolution]

Is it possible for you to upload the volume 2 or atleast this sample? I can't find it online anywhere.

[@dollitamusic]

i’m begging you to find the organ sound that’s in Doja Cat’s Addiction !!!

[@VariaSweetGuardian]

If I ever needed more insentive, here's a reason to!

[@barneyrubble8255]

So these are AIFF Files made for a hardware sampler? Is there a way to turn them into wav files if i order them? Or are there any software samplers that play AIF FILES?

[@SynaMax]

Many DAWs including FL Studio support AIFF files.

[@theComaCalling]

You could run them through the batch processor in Goldwave to convert the format.

[@irover]

kewl

[@sssyruppp]

is that purchasing page even still functioning? wish someone would soulseek it...

[@SynaMax]

www.rarefaction.com/poketwo.html I think it is functioning; I don't remember seeing the part where they mention "WeTransfer" before, so they must've updated the site sometime after I made this video. Their libraries are really useful, I highly recommend supporting them if feasible.

[@scribblenaut100]

Oh brother, yes! Are we allowed to suggest certain games? Or would you rather like us not to?

[@nicholasfaith8999]

They've always said they used the oberheim oberm00g (obmx) prototype for this bassline. Same synth clouser used on more human than human

[@nicholasrichardson102]

I also found an article where Beaven said the bassline was a sample. I'm going to guess something on there is the oberheim in addition to that sample

[@nicholasrichardson102]

anyone else think that is sounds a bit prophet vs ?

[@nicholasrichardson102]

my minimoog model D does a really good rendition as well

[@theComaCalling]

I’m far from convinced on your timeline as “the downward spiral” was released on May 30, 1994 meaning the song was in development prior to the release of “circular 2” on poke in the ear. Sounds more like it was named after the patch from the downward “spiral”, Sherlock. It’s not that hard to just patch it on a Moog homie.

[@Qliphirot]

This is the most closer rendition I've heard here on youTube

[@edwardburns7770]

Out of curiosity (and because I want to nail my cover of Closer) I downloaded the Poke in the Ear 2 sample pack. The circular 2 patch does indeed sound identical to Closer with zero additional processing (just drop into Logic's sampler and play along - I can share when I have finished my cover version). According to my Mac's "Finder" app, the files in the sample pack were last modified on 25th March 1992 at 11:25am, so they were indeed created BEFORE the release date of TDS.

[@linorow2835]

Hi! Where can I download the sample pack? I've checked the rarefaction page but there is no contact. Just a link to pay though PayPal.