Nintendo Forked Around and Found Out

[@Spatnz]

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[@pixelreflectorpro]

Raycon mid

[@Mrbobbyboo]

Nah

[@ihavethebrainofarat2309]

You might want to know Pokemon Uranium is still around and can be downloaded, it even still gets some small updates. I played it recently and it was great, most online functionality still works too (everything but the PVP).

[@Some_guy_whos_here]

I don't know

[@roxaskinghearts]

pirates will pirate while shills will shill

[@theotherjared9824]

I believe a new law should be made where any product no longer being officially sold becomes defacto public domain and the IP owners can't legally go after anyone. In the name of fairness, if the product is sold again, any acts of piracy after that point can be sued. This forces companies to actually do something with their properties and allows the public to properly preserve them.

[@kidneybear2005]

I agree with you. That could work

[@FrinniferFran]

Unfortunately. That can only ever work in the States. Law in Japan is a VASTLY different beast.

[@MinerGritz]

do it anyways i want to play mario deluxe on my ds

[@BeefGrease2912]

​@@FrinniferFranTrue, but if they didn't want to lose a whole country's division of their company, and with it, a whole country's worth of revenue, they'd have no choice but to have NoA follow our laws here at least

[@FrinniferFran]

@@BeefGrease2912 and they do. And they're well within their right to protect their intellectual property, but their legal team is probably primarily from the Japanese branch and as a result they're still ham fisted in their approach. At the end of the day, they're doing their job, but could stand to do it better

[@ZlatkoTheGod]

The thing that pisses me off the most about videos like this is that everybody seems to forget to mention that the patents were filed AFTER Palworld came out. So they saw a game being competition to them, realized they couldn't sue them for copyright infringement and got so pissed they invented a bunch of extremely vague, industry destroying patents after the fact to retroactively sue them. This is literal deranged psychopathic mobster behavior and it feels like nobody is freaking out enough about that. Imagine living in a world where you can make something cool and a corporation says "Hey I like that, I will make up a patent now to sue you into oblivion and steal that idea for myself". If Nintendo wins this legal battle in any capacity it's fucking Joever for us.

[@mightypancake2211]

Yep. the filing date is after palworld and craft topia. But they are parented by a patent back in 2021. Which is still younger than craftopia... The only hope is that the judge that sees it gets to see that this is just the patent lawyers trying to make a genre controling attempt at the games industry. Which may open them up to other companies that may have older patents or such, depending on which patent(s) stick. Cause the fact is they have not declared which patent was violated.

[@zaremol2779]

Nintendo is run by the Yakuza confirmed

[@aleanddragonITA]

​​​@@mightypancake2211 But this is how it's going to go too: Judge: you cannot retroactively sue something... Nintendo: **Open a Suitcase filled with Money** Judge: **Hits the Table with his Hammer** Nintendo has a Monopoly over Monsters, Palworld, Digimon & Monster Hunter are hereby Joeover and their parent companies (each) need to pay one GAZILLION of Money to Nintendo, now let's move to the next Cases: 'Nintendo vs The World for having People named Mario + Luigi' & 'Nintendo vs The Universe for having Stars' *Hit the Table with the Hammer* Nintendo wins again!!!

[@ZlatkoTheGod]

@@mightypancake2211 Honestly? Nightmare scenario. If we end up in a battle royale between all the biggest corporations in the world to see who owns what patents to determine who gets a lock on what BASIC GAME MECHANIC the entire industry is cooked. OK not the big money part of the industry of course, they'll make deals with each other, but indie and other non AAA studios will just be at such a colossal disadvantage it'd basically be the end of video games as an art form.

[@BlueRaptorNightFury]

Funny enough I remember hearing word that the Patents are so vague that some Patent-lawyers are finding it ridiculous. Example being Nintendo's patent on Mounts.

[@shiniestaipom123]

Oh it's really easy to hate Nintendo they'd probably sue a kid with cancer if he had an off brand Nintendo T-shirt

[@SomeOrdinaryJanitor]

yeah honestly i can't remember the last time i bought a nintendo product... actually no, i remember i bought a switch... last nintendo purchase i ever made. i ain't bought anything since and that was back in 2018

[@LilDragonkaijufan]

I know right?

[@The_Fire_Radish]

@@SomeOrdinaryJanitorYeah..... it's their latest console

[@AlejandroGonzalez-tn8hi]

Nintendo is hated nowadays

[@zenniththefolf4888]

I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo pulled a Disney and sued a dead kid's family for putting Mario on his headstone or something.

[@TODAYWEARETALKINGABOUT]

Valve: hires people who makes game mods Sega: hires rom hackers to make official sonic games Nintendo: THIS IS ILLEGAL YOU KNOW!

[@lordlopes7777]

The same Valve who trick the guy who leaked the whole Half Life 2 before the released to go to Valve for a job but met with the police.

[@TODAYWEARETALKINGABOUT]

@@lordlopes7777 so if I leaked your movie before it went to cinemas is that legal?

[@lordlopes7777]

@@TODAYWEARETALKINGABOUT 100% not

[@TODAYWEARETALKINGABOUT]

@@lordlopes7777 so what valve did wasn't a bad thing then?

[@lordlopes7777]

@@TODAYWEARETALKINGABOUT For me Valve did what was right,but not everyone will think the same.

[@Banana_Slugcat]

Nintendo: releases 3D All Stars on Switch* Me: Heyy nice people don't have to pirate SM64, Sunshine and Galaxy 1 anymore! Nintendo: Nah frick you we are pulling this one from shelves forever in a few months. Me: what

[@madisonwolfe777]

Nah fr lmao

[@mantraki]

This was so isane not even the nintendo fanboys wanted to defend it at the time

[@RaceBandit]

Oh hey, the source of the "Execution of Mario" memes.

[@corinbothell249]

not including the fact that it's the patched version of sm64 aka blj and other speed run used stuff is gone. so no reason for speedrunners to even bother, and i think that's the same with the other two. so yeah remember nintendo also hates speedrunners. a lot. like I'm pretty sure if they could they sue speedrunning out of existence.

[@wormwoodbecomedelphinus4131]

FOREVER!! ITS DELETED!!

[@jafarsadagghe5059]

what's interesting is I've heard that the actual devs at Nintendo like fangames. and IIRC they said that they would like to find a way to have a policy as to not sue people who just make fangames out of love.

[@jacksonvoet8312]

Exactly, I keep saying this. There’s a huge divide between the developers of Nintendo, and the Legal Team of Nintendo.

[@Hunter_6430]

seconding this. It’s literally JUST Nintendo Legal/Corporate that want to go cause problems on purpose.

[@Victor-056]

@@jacksonvoet8312 Unfortunately, until the Legal Team is put to the millstone, you will HAVE to hold the company as a whole in the same boat. The Developers doing nothing while the Legal Team pillages and burns everything just means the Legal Team will keep digging the hole right under themselves until it can no longer support itself.

[@Victor-056]

@@Hunter_6430 Unfortunately, Until the Nintendo legal team is held accountable for their antics, the Devs will have to be lumped into the same box as them for standing by and watching them pillage and burn everything.

[@jacksonvoet8312]

@@Victor-056 Yeah. It’s a shame. The sheer displays of dominance from the legal team used to be necessary for Nintendo’s survival in its infancy, so now they’re just shadow boxing ghosts of their past.

[@a.s.raiyan2003-4]

Suyu (Sue You) is honestly the most appropriately named Nintendo emulator.

[@TwoNumbahNiens]

dont support them. suyu was instantly abandoned after it stopped being popular.

[@wookiecharmander4202]

Yeah no new switch emulators are coming out its going to be a couple of years

[@DigiSpaceProductions]

@@TwoNumbahNiens it's not abandoned, they are just rewriting everything slowly to make the codebase as far away from yuzu as possible while still acting the same so nintendo has no grounds to sue based off the codebase.

[@robotnikkkk001]

...STILL 0.3.3 VERSION,DIDNT UPDATE EVER SINCE ......SUDACHI AND UZUY ARE CURRENT.....WITH UZUY DEV IS KINDA JERK.....

[@MoonlitLuka]

Nintendo just put themselves in that terrible position where they HAVE to keep making really good games unless they want people to start bringing up their horrible legal practices. They're toeing the line to becoming modern Disney or pre-crazy modern Kanye. A couple of missteps and they'll have people saying "Man, I miss *old* Nintendo" while others dig up their dirty laundry to air out for another PR hit. Can't wait, honestly.

[@No_Life_Alex]

they don't HAVE to make good games. their fanbase isn't fans who keep up with gaming news, it's primarily uber-casuals. They likely wouldn't notice if game quality went down (see: pokemon)

[@thedarter]

​@@No_Life_Alexmost people can actually tell when they're being fed slop, even if they don't consciously realize it. Ever had an empty feeling after watching a movie you initially thought was good, then afterwards you thought about it more and realized it was actually kinda bad?

[@mightypancake2211]

@@No_Life_Alex In a reality where everyone is growing a gag reflex... I think that even pokemon has to take a step up or else just be washed away, and well I don't feel a bit bad about it. It should be the natural way of the world. Make something better than company A, Then company B will rise up... and same thing Company C makes better product than Company B and so Company C rises up.

[@No_Life_Alex]

@@thedarter People are able to recognize that the movie kinda sucks because they likely watch other movies and have a frame of reference for how good a movie can be. For most nintendo players, these games are the only games they play. Thus, they don't see any problems. Same principle applies to yearly sports game players.

[@jonathanjuarez5544]

​@@mightypancake2211 Unfortunately, Nintendo is attempting to sue company B in this case because now that they have genuine competition against Pokemon in the form of palworld they're feeling threatened.

[@Drog3170]

Yeah Nintendo is never gonna win. Each emulator they take down, 2 more appear. Same goes with fangames

[@ChaosRaziel]

As the wise words of Alpharius would say Hydra Domitus

[@burnttoast26]

@@ChaosRazielI am Alpharius

[@jonathanjuarez5544]

Which is why they should focus their efforts on bringing their old stuff onto modern hardware, the only reason Dolphin is so big is because Nintendo rarely ever touches their GC and Wii catalogue and when they do, they charge an arm and a leg for it.

[@yourtypicalutpersona]

SMG4 will be fr to shambles now with Nintendo being like this

[@ROADSIGNProductions]

mfs at SMG4 boutta feel the pain of 202.938.666.298.836.288.173.884.923.939 "copyright infringement" strikes by next year

[@lucasfraczek4320]

Not really.

[@creeperjo7]

if they were they wouldve been plus they have Glitchy that uploads original content, so even if Nintendo cries they're going to be fine or they can just change more character models lol, sml style

[@GrindyVine]

​@@creeperjo7 And that got me realizing that they changed most of their Nintendo characters to be more OC like

[@thegnarledpirate9198]

There was a whole arc on that. They redesigned the original characters, but preserved Mario and Luigi, as they're parodies.

[@jackbob83]

Here’s a fun little fact: Nintendo’s first break into the North American market, Donkey Kong, was originally a really bad Space Invaders *BOOTLEG* that flopped so hard, that they made Donkey Kong to replace the boards of the cabinets for the game. Nintendo started with a bootleg, and have the audacity to sue people who spend years making works in their honor.

[@luzifershadres]

They were sued by Werner brothers. That started their villain arc, by learning from the master...

[@e11ttchgameplays55]

Sounds like Star Wars story but in the prequel episodes

[@DanCap20]

Nintendo always reminds me of this one scene from The Simpsons: “How much is this beer?” “45 bucks.” “45 bucks?! This must be the best tasting beer in the world!” *Takes a sip* “You got lucky.”

[@VanceBrownsOtherChannel]

Lawyer Kong says: “I smell a DMCA!”

[@brovid-19]

I smell a 24 hour ban from KZbin because a bunch of wankers can't understand subtext.

[@R_Legends]

He makes a comeback. One day.

[@Sonicevo]

Smg4?​@@R_Legends

[@R_Legends]

@@Sonicevo ...yes

[@gregorsamsa79420]

They can't keep acting scummy forever, right?

[@NotLuke212]

Yes they can, and they likely will. Big sad

[@ROADSIGNProductions]

From what I know, time out of all things can NOT limit greed, so I highly doubt they will stop sending DMCAs to anyone who dares to even draw a single pixel of their character/s.

[@wealthybone2990]

Prob won't until their old CEO's pass or whoever does these.

[@gregorsamsa79420]

More like a big depression.

[@SubPriestPepsi]

Who's gonna tell them

[@Axvzar_A.F.U]

I said this many times before, but I'll say it again here: I don't hate Nintendo itself, I hate them as a corporate company

[@billybobjoephilcorncobtiptopge]

so you hate Nintendo because Nintendo is a corporation you cannot just say "I do not hate him, I hate him as a person!"

[@johnpett1955]

@@Axvzar_A.F.U I don't hate Nintendo, just the legal team.

[@M64bros]

​@@johnpett1955 same here

[@shadowmaster435]

@@billybobjoephilcorncobtiptopge nice bait and nice grammar

[@ProjectionProjects2.7182]

@@billybobjoephilcorncobtiptopge Nice rage bait lol.

[@glassowlie]

Nintendo sued Blockbuster probably because in Japan, any media rental was made illegal unless the rental had permission with the copyright owners.

[@HaveanOreshnik]

So they are a Yakuza type law firm....well that's scary

[@livenishikireaction]

don't associate us with them, i'd rather they be in the joint for ten years

[@joshuakorynta3385]

​@Just_an_random_who_likes_stuffDidn't they kill the Game Boy creator?

[@Nathan-rb3qp]

@@joshuakorynta3385Heck no. He died in a car accident.

[@marwanahmed3378]

@@Nathan-rb3qp they didn't assassinate arch duke ferdnade, he died in a car accident

[@Trollge398]

​@@marwanahmed3378Nintendo did ww1

[@Barnstorme]

Ad ends here 1:20

[@Bringingmoneyback]

Tnx

[@SolitaryVirus48]

thank you

[@tpgYT2025_official]

Thanks you saved my life

[@safirpewdiepie1262]

Godsend

[@peetah_gryffyn]

Thx man

[@OriginalSparkstar]

Fun fact, Nintendo is actually BREAKING Japanese Patent laws by trying to Patent these mechanics because turns out POCKET PAIR CREATED THE OPWN WORLD MONSTER CAPTURE SYSTEM~!!! AND on top of that, The Mechanic itself is Public Domain as Pocket Pair didn't patent it after THEY created it. So TECHNICALLY and LEGALLY Nintendo is trying to Patent a game machinic They DID NOT Creator which is THIEF in Japan and that's not even everything illegal Nintendo is doing with this lawsuit. I'd suggest doing Research on it if you wanna learn more cause it is insane. By my assessment Nintendo has broken anywhere from 12 to 28 Japanese Patent and copyright laws. If Pocket Pair is smart enough to capitalize on this and willing to stick it to Nintendo. There is a decent chance of Pokémon being forced into the Public Domain. Meaning ANYTHING from Generation 9 and back will be Public Domain and free to use by ANYONE.

[@circledude2362]

plus. japan's patent law states you only have one year to patent something. Craftopia uses the game mechanics Palworld uses before nintnedo patented something and before legends arceus.

[@luzifershadres]

Oh, you miss some loopholes here. They pattended specificly the mechanics of Legends arceus and argue that the pallworlds ones have enoungh simular code and mechanics to be ripped of in their eyes. Also, japan also allows you to pattend anything if the inventor didnt within the first year after its invention. It was basicly structured like that to do questionable things and to asserd "japanes dominance.". If you think about it, Nintendo acts exactly like the Japanese Gouverment does.

[@circledude2362]

@@luzifershadres the problem with that is that the first-to-file principle is limited to only the year the invention comes into the world. So if in japan, if you wanna file someone else's invention, you have only one year to do it: the exact same year the invention came into existence, otherwise, its too late. So HA!

[@generalsynnacle23]

How has social media not cancelled or pressured Nintendo's legal team yet? Petitions and cancellations happen frequently for much less significant matters, yet outright violation of fair use is perfectly acceptable just because they know how to weaponize nostalgia and decent game design? There's decades of examples to choose from, and some examples aren't even related to video game fair use, just having a character painted on a wall for charity or a child's birthday party gets that person sued into bankruptcy Disney-style. That's practically suing someone for making *fan art* for damn sake.

[@OfficialAshePenndale]

Ain’t too late to start now, let’s fucking gooooooo!

[@rubenakaskrubby8676]

They have at one point with them doing a day to day to day of wack stuff....then sephiroth for smash was announced, then everything went silent

[@moonwarrior3342]

It's a thing called, Battered Spouse syndrome.

[@unionjack0638]

How do you cancel an entire legal team

[@generalsynnacle23]

@@unionjack0638 Focus on the head honchos responsible for approving the terrible decisions in taking legal action on completely harmless nonprofit fangames/ mods/ artwork. If you targeted a single random person on the legal team, higher ups will use that person as their scapegoat and fire them to save face and showboat as supporting the will of the people, only to wait out the dying backlash for a few months before proceeding their previous actions once more. But targeting the leader leaves a much stronger message to everyone under them that, if even the head of the legal team can be punished for their actions, they're even more vulnerable in comparison for their idiotic legal actions when mobile games blatantly using their IP and assets to make a quick buck roam the app stores without fear of backlash. Not only that, but if the head of legal is canceled online, how do you think Nintendo themselves would react to the public outcry in their terrible legal action behavior throughout the decades and especially within the past decade, all culminating with the clear violation of fair use and overall creativity with the lawsuit on Palworld for using their ridiculous gameplay patents *that they only published months after Palworld released* and how that outcry could potentially hurt upcoming Pokemon sales, aka one of their beloved cash cow franchises?

[@videakias3000]

banning emulations as whole would have unintended consequences OUTSIDE the gaming industry. emulation is not used exclusively to run video games. it is also used by the people who maintain old equipment in hospitals. banning emulation as a whole would cause the hospitals to buy new equipment which they may not always be able to afford. there may be more cases of non-gaming related emulation that I don't know of.

[@Victor-056]

To be honest, there comes a point where it does not matter if "their games are good". When you HAVE to put your foot down, just put it down as hard as you can, and make sure the lesson sticks.

[@dannybrezelhorner2715]

They're not even that good IMO just overrated because Nintendo has such Nostalgia power it's crazy Like imagine if Nintendo came out today with these legal practices we would think they're idiot crackpots with dumb game ideas but they have like 30+ years of Nostalgia to manipulate people with

[@Benji-L-2005]

​​@@dannybrezelhorner2715they are one of the main cores of gaming, even tho you are in a way right about if it released today, but each IP they have made a name for themselves and all, they are still making pretty good new games cuz they strive on features and design more than anything else, that's their IPs still go on and it's not all nostalgia, take Splatoon as an example, it was a brand new IP in 2015, they still make pretty good games on the most part but the highlight ones are one ons for each device/console, why you think the Switch still got more sales then the new consoles, it's nothing with nostalgia, they just are big IPs for obvious reasons

[@toastedsquare]

The whole argument in favor of Nintendo can never work when you look at Sega who is doing just fine with fangames existing, actually encouraging it and hiring talented people from fanworks to do official stuff. Sonic fangames never hurt Sega, so Nintendo could just be chill like them but they refuse to so they can get as much money as possible, even just pennies

[@OfficialAshePenndale]

As much hate as the Sonic franchise gets it’s probably one of the better series and Sega as a company in this regard. Not only encouraging good press but kinda giving people jobs too. A win win basically.

[@agent_framerate]

The Sonic franchise is actually doing well now that Sega's stepping in the right direction. Even the fanbase is doing better than the early 2010's.

[@Micha-Hil]

Nintendo is the first lawsuit-type company. Wait, they're for real now? What the fuck?

[@Toonthegoob-hd6jq]

I think Disney did that first

[@aleanddragonITA]

​@@Toonthegoob-hd6jq They still are first among Videogame Companies

[@Toonthegoob-hd6jq]

@@aleanddragonITA true

[@leedlebob2667]

​@@Toonthegoob-hd6jq Unironically disney doesn't even rank in the top 10 litigious companies in 2023. Well at least in the lists I've seen.

[@drewbydoo8945]

At this point, nintendo should just make their own Fazbear Fanverse Anitiative. After years of bullying people who have made fan games that took years to make, it's only right that nintendo helps to monetize them.

[@birdboy16]

That would be cool, although I worry about the risk of all the controversy coming from the devs of the Fazbear one

[@Certified_Marvin_M0ment]

Ngl that something I could see sega doing

[@RaceBandit]

That would require them to think being a fan isn't a crime.

[@drewbydoo8945]

@@RaceBandit xD

[@sometf2player752]

2:59 yeah if Nintendo wasn’t so protective of their ip we could probably see Mario fan games on the level of Sonic fan games

[@Yoshizuyuner]

they just value their ip more than sega doses

[@Certified_Marvin_M0ment]

​@@YoshizuyunerI hope they become more like sega in the future

[@sometf2player752]

@@Yoshizuyuner well sega values the sonic ip a lot more now but I guess they can’t go back on what they said about them being ok with fan games because it was officially stated

[@lordlopes7777]

​@@sometf2player752 Well,you can. Idk if someone told you,but unless you make a fan game adult content or make money with the fan game,you're fine,as for last year,only 2 Mario fan games were taken down,both because of adult content.

[@darkzeroprojects4245]

​@@Yoshizuyuner Not in the way you might think, id argue.

[@yugimumoto1]

What's the funniest part about the emulation legal fights is that Nintendo doesn't make their own emulators for switch online. They are just free emulators they found. So if they did try to sue over that it would be a viacom vs. KZbin fiasco.

[@gogereaver349]

its not the emulation there getting them on. its the use of there encryption keys. not a single switch emulator has refused to use this shortcut.

[@an12854]

​@@gogereaver349Ryujinx does require you to add your own encryption keys, that's why they threatened the dev instead of suing because they couldn't do anything.

[@gogereaver349]

@@an12854 so there doing excaly what I said they are using Nintendo encryption. that's where there flaw is. all support for that needs to be dropped so the core emulator only supports homebrew unencrypted. now if a 3rd party decrypted the roms so they worked on the emulator that not the fault of the emulator devs. even lime3ds dropped the encryption and no atternys came for them they just merged with another upcoming 3ds emulator.

[@drunkginger0077]

Smg4 predicted 💀

[@benji-menji]

The DMCA arc was a response to this stuff. Nintendo has been suing long before SMG4.

[@HudsonSimmons-hj4ng]

Aggread

[@mateorios1636]

the dmca arc was by far the worst arc ive ever seen. It literally made me switch from smg4 to binge watch red vs blue season 1 to 13

[@benji-menji]

@@mateorios1636 Now that you say that, I can see that. I do like that they made the lawyer Funky Kong though.

[@dartmonk]

so they sued sml but not smg4 this is unfair

[@Dr._Nicolas]

how naive i was when i said "oh maybe don't use the official name of the game to make your own game" Palworld comes out and nintendo still sue them, there is no defense for this other than petty issue over monopoly of monster collector game

[@darkzeroprojects4245]

What do you expect? And those who tell you to "make your own crap" then go "you deserve it for making a knockoff" Like lord almighty these people to me are partly why we never can get hardly fresh blood to florish.

[@primus0348]

@@darkzeroprojects4245 Yeah, its insane af, it feels like people are quite Hypocritical sometimes and its just stupid

[@bell3287]

With how many cancelled projects out there you'd think talented people would stop wasting time and effort making anything Nintendo related. Make your own games so I can throw money at them. Nintendo doesn't value you but I do.

[@Nick-ue7iw]

Palworld did that and is getting sued.,

[@FallenDemonFly]

The fact that neither the Eu or America accepted their patents is hilarious to me, since: they only barely managed to patent the mechanics, in Japan. Any lawyer worth their salt can make a case out of it, the only thing they can do and are doing is drawing it out to try and dry up Pocketpair funds.

[@jeremycaswell]

The reason nobody wants to go to court over it, excluding the expenses, is because if somebody loses, then that sets a presidant for everyone else to get hunted down by companies

[@SimpleLifeUwU]

Patenting “riding animals” and “shadows” is really a scummy thing. They will invent grand-child patents in the near future, the child patent of a child patent.

[@FlutterGuy121]

its a bit ironic that the one fan thing nintendo has never touched is the Mother 3 translation, even though the creators said nintendo could straight take the tanslation work and sell it

[@chargeminecraft]

As well as English translation of early Fire Emblem games

[@tomtrublu]

The reason Nintendo never attempted to shutdown any mods or hacks of MOTHER games is because of the fact they don’t fully own the IP. Mother as an IP is owned by their own company. And said company is fine with fan works. In short, Nintendo owns the games, But not the IP itself.

[@the_Wally_man]

bro forgot heaven studio 😭 they legit took down a fangame from a franchise that didnt get a new addition for, like, 10 years by now. this takedown wouldve made more sense if it happened a bit after/before a new RH game because you can technically recreate all of the games

[@burnttoast26]

It is morally justified to pirate Nintendo games. Nintendo corporate (not the devs) hate their audience

[@tiseril]

Raycons are slightly above garbage tier. There are many software bugs, mainly consisting of the earbuds suddenly connecting and disconnecting from and to each other. Until they fix the software - I can't in good conscience recommend those to anyone.

[@nojuanatall3281]

I got some j labs for 10 bucks. I can recommend them at that price.

[@Leostar-Regalius]

i love the thumbnail for this, lawyer kong definitely fits nintendo's looks right now

[@slapstickcomedi2652]

Nintendo is like a law firm with a game development as a side hobby to me now. They make good games ya, but if you even do something mildly outside of there comfort zone there response is too shoot you in the face with a shotgun. Its like they want people to be driven away by there very existance.

[@theshadowking3198]

The thing is there games aren’t even that good Pokémon nowadays sucks

[@JaredtheRabbit]

Nintendo thinks that their fans being creative is illegal. 😢

[@TheStickCollector]

That's all they're doing nowadays. Their reputation is tanking.

[@XD-sc4ix]

Not really

[@warmblanket3394]

Not really. They ca. Still make games to cushion their consumer unfriendliness

[@ethanolfuelenjoyer]

They have a horde of drones showing their undying love for the company. It's a fucking cult and these people will bend over backwards with some insane mental gymnastics to justify Nintendo's scummy actions. So no, I don't think they'll be losing their core audience any time soon.

[@somethin.6366]

@@warmblanket3394 I Mean, yeah, But they can't really keep up with that forever, Sooner or later they'll crumble, when though? who knows.

[@leedlebob2667]

​@@somethin.6366 according to some sources, they have enough to run a deficit for decades. So uh... not in our lifetimes I suppose.

[@abstraction6212]

When they go out of business, let it serve as a reminder of how not to behave as a company. Plus you can seperate the art from the artist and by this point, they deserve to have the stuff they made taken away from them.

[@leedlebob2667]

Thry won't go out of business. It's nigh impossible for that to happen, at least in our lifetimes.

[@near5148]

It will happen one day it ain't impossible but not anything time soon​@@leedlebob2667

[@DRHellcat319]

Could you imagine if Nintendo tried to sue GPD win or Asus for patent infringement because they quote on quote copyed the Nintendo switch even though GPD win had the idea and actually created a Windows gaming handheld console sometime before the Nintendo switch came out or even the fact that Asus in 2001 created the first ever Windows handheld prototype in 2001 Asus and GPD win would them very hard and as a result they would have went out of business and have to shut down or deactivate every Nintendo switch related product

[@MegaDude10]

Funny how everyone still remembers all the "bad things" Nintendo did over a decade later, but it's "hard to hold them accountable". Yet everyone magically forgot every bad thing other companies do and bootlicks them the second THEY do good things. Remember Bloodborne Kart? PVZ3 What Could of Been? Microsoft shutting down Tango for no reason? CRASH 5? Those were dropped quickly, yet AM2R is STILL being brought up a decade later.

[@M64bros]

Exactly!

[@lordlopes7777]

Funny that today only if the fan game has adult content or someone is making money with their IPs that Nintendo would go after. And yet,people still live in 2010 or something 😐

[@setsers1]

EXACTLY!! Pretty Angering...

[@Thatbendyfan_]

Meanwhile sega found someone making a fan game and hired them to make what would become the greatest sonic game since the first 3 and put sonic back in the gaming market. Sega really does what nintendon’t

[@Certified_Marvin_M0ment]

Yeah

[@RaceBandit]

It takes _a lot_ to piss off Sega.

[@ZechariahB]

*Fact check 1*: Only emulation itself is a legal gray zone, not extracting a ROM file. Copyright makes it explicitly illegal in both the US and Japan. *Fact check 2*: Copying a game so long as it is your own being legal is a myth somehow being parroted by a lot of people on reddit with no legal basis in law behind it. It is illegal, but is impossible to practically enforce. Others assumed its lack of enforcability as being legal with asterisks and more misinterpration led to the myth. In my opinion on extracting ROMs / backuping games from researching the available law documents, there is additionally no chance any exception to keep those widely available will ever be made considering companies including non-game companies everywhere on the internet would rather argue to have brand control with an iron fist. It sucks and continues to suck like always.

[@gagejohnathan9641]

For the love of god just start overwhelming their lawyers, they can't sue us all

[@Inkytounge]

5:35 - if I’m hearing what I’m hearing, the Pokémon Legends Arceus slander will not be tolerated.

[@RaceBandit]

If you ask me, the PLA haters mean SV because of how horrible the engine was even after two waves of DLC and an epilogue. I gravitate toward the Pecharunt fight in particular because it's the last fight in the plot, after patches, and yet Terastallizing your Mon can lag the game hard. *Why.* By comparison, PLA was enough of a shakeup (Especially in comparison to Let's GO, which I skipped!) that it's the best gen-8 title and I need to get back to it one of these days.

[@grimgrahamch.4157]

Nintendo lawyers have hearts so black even the devil shivers.

[@pokemonlover4208]

I guess you could say Smg4 was warning us when he made the lawsuit arc.

[@mateorios1636]

Warning? Or just picking a tendency from years beforehand?

[@fluffyeevee383]

To he fair with Yuzu, they absolutely 100% deserved it. They were fine until they suddenly spilled all their braincells on the floor, got ahold of Tears of the Kingdom before it's release, and tried to *sell* the ROMs to people. They flew way too close to the sun for that, Nintendo had every right to shut that down.

[@darkzeroprojects4245]

Theyd shut them down regardless if they did or not.

[@fluffyeevee383]

@@darkzeroprojects4245 Is that why they never shut it or Citra down until they did?

[@Shaun_Jones]

0:40 did you really have to hurt all of us plane nerds by showing Mriya?

[@phorchybug3286]

I can understand the whole shutting down fan projects thing since it means they're trying to work on a similar thing, like that Metroid 2 remake. But yeah, poor dude and his passion project, down the drain... Heart filled with sadness...

[@FrankyGuyMan]

See the only problem is that Nintendo is the only company that makes really good games almost all the time as soon as there's going to be another company that does that kind of s*** Nintendo is going to be in trouble.

[@darkzeroprojects4245]

I think people overvalue their games. Im glad i dropped them since 2017 since i got tired of their bs, and if people didnt fear of missing out or whatever to fill some zeitgeist, people would be saving their money long term in better. Just me though.

[@toainsully]

SMG4: "I predicted all of this, you know. All of it!"

[@goldengoblin788]

A lot of people say "oh Nintendo is greedy" when referring to this stuff but i feel like there has to be more reasons behind it because to me greed doesn't make that much sense because they are literally the most popular game company ever there has to be more things behind the reasons they do this

[@markcreed3424]

Pride

[@Adrian2223-vx4wx]

Pride?

[@LG555]

It's pride. They design something to be played a certain way, and any deviation from this is not welcomed. Which includes competitive, fangames and obviously mods.

[@goldengoblin788]

@@LG555 I have thought that what if it is like a competitive thing or something that has to do with Japanese culture and they way things like that are seen

[@Prickie]

I always figured it's because of their previous expierence with the entire King Kong vs Donkey Kong lawsuit which resulted in Universal losing the rights to King Kong so Nintendo as a result has been since that lawsuit clawing onto their intellectual properties they've acquired and going after everything that dares not to have their seal of approval so they can retain control of their IPs. It also rakes in extra cash as suing a bunch of people also happens to be good for the bottom line. Other gaming companies meanwhile aren't usually this shaken and just find it easier to just let these fangames be or even work with the people behind them to make better products and reinforce their reputation. What good is suing some random guy in the basement whom in the future could bring more fans and be a useful asset. Not to say other companies don't go after fangames, but when they do, there's at least either a jusitification beyond copyright infringement or the company in question gets dogpiled by their supporters. In simple terms, Nintendo is overprotective of their IPs as to avoid losing their intellectual works to a lawsuit and it also pays them good money as a bonus, other companies don't really have this fear ingrained into them and with their supporting consumer base would rather ignore or work with their fans in a defacto mutual-agreement to support the performance of the company or something along those lines.

[@ldezzy9260]

The thing that just grind my gears is that Nintendo sue SML for using their character but expect for the millions of plush tubers who use their character for their videos and their is goons he a point that if they continue suing they are putting a high risk in the gaming industry and they can get sued by Ubisoft for patent infringement

[@averagehomebrewer]

7:35 Apparently this whole thing was caused by one guy who was salty that he got malware from trying to emulate several years ago, so he just sent takedowns to a bunch of videos and started malding over email (including slurs). If you tried to dispute the claims you’d just immediately get the video back

[@Mookai22]

Yeah. Well known SM64 rom hacker Kaze Emanuar made a pretty good video talking about how the takedowns were almost certainly fake.

[@lordlopes7777]

So in a way,the whole thing was just a pirate who got baby rage mad for getting a virus. Nothing new here.

[@CheesiX8]

oh its WAY more than 500, so many smaller games with passionate developers get struck down and don't make any noise about it.

[@gnomegguy69]

You think Nintendo's patent of catching monster in a field is ridiculous? Buddy, SEGA had a patent on a fucking arrow pointing to where you need to go

[@RaceBandit]

Wait, Crazy Taxi's arrow is patented?

[@danolantern6030]

@@RaceBandit Yes.

[@gnomegguy69]

@@RaceBandit not anymore, it just recently expired. But, The Simpsons got in trouble for using it in one of their games

[@leedlebob2667]

A lpt of people don't realize that most if not all these japanese game companies have ridiculous patents like these. This was never a Nintendo exclusive deal.

[@darkzeroprojects4245]

Dont remind me. Ffs there was a dude who triee to patent the word edge.

[@HudsonSimmons-hj4ng]

Dude is that smg4 in the thumbnail?

[@RTOmega]

yep XD

[@HudsonSimmons-hj4ng]

Thx I'm an smg4 fan

[@lucasfraczek4320]

Yeah no, piracy has always been morally correct, womp-womp for Nintendon't.

[@popereptillianlord6174]

its a pirates life for me

[@jonathanwade3882]

Back then people did take advantage of piracy because they were either too lazy or too broke to buy nintendo games. But this was before the switch even came out. Now a days, nintendo doesnt even want you to get a hold of their older games and would rather have u pay a NOE or $60 just to play the older games they ported to their current console. which is just a scummy move. so yea, piracy is now a days 100% legal and no one can argue with that

[@avocadeous]

@@jonathanwade3882you can 100% argue that piracy is illegal because it is lol. Morally, on the other hand, is where the grey area lies.

[@jonathanwade3882]

@@avocadeous True. i only believe that its fair when pirating old games or games that u can no longer get access to unless its been ported. But pirating newer games from later consoles can be a crime.

[@avocadeous]

@@jonathanwade3882 I mean, pirating any game at all is a crime - You don’t have the right to play games regardless of how old they are. I disagree with the law though, I also think that if it isn’t sold it should be fair game. I’m surprised the law has never been changed to be honest. Probably because there hasn’t been a major lawsuit about emulation in a while.

[@paperluigi6132]

Apparently, Konami also does health insurance on the side. So it would not surprise me if Nintendo someday decides to actually open a law firm as a side hustle.

[@xander_ns.7284]

Hmmm ,i wonder what would have happened if Universal Studios had won that case vs nintendo

[@iAMtwoman22]

pirates: that's our cue!

[@Grimm-Ghost]

0:15 what game is that

[@shythevans]

It looks like Super Mario and The Rainbow Stars. It's a fan-made Mario game. It's only on pc tho, and it's still a w.i.p.

[@Grimm-Ghost]

@@shythevans thx m8

[@JapaneseNikeMan]

I love that the other reply contained a game I've also been searching for lol; but the exact game is from the mario fan game site and it's called "Super mario flashback" (pc only as well)

[@unoriginalperson72]

Mario

[@Riddim_glitch]

The funny thing about the palworld lawsuit is that the patents literally exist for the sole reason of sueing. If I remember correctly, the patents were filed only *after* palworld released. Which means nintendo is trying to abuse a loophole in the legal system to destroy a legitimate game. Its literally the equivalent of "Stop being good or I will make your life a living hell".

[@derekhalcon8287]

about Pokemon, nintendo Doesnt make those games thats totally gamesfreak property as they are a 2party studio, but nintendo has the rights of distribution in both their games and their merchandising (sorry for my bad english)

[@thegaminggman266]

I remember inferno plus made a Mario battle royal fan game, Nintendo sending a dmca to inferno to take it down, Nintendo releasing Mario 99, then taking Mario 99 down a year after release.

[@Imperfectcell13]

>Says Gamefreak is putting out bad games >Shows footage of one of the most beloved Pokemon games in recent memory, widely considered a strong step in the right direction for the series

[@RaceBandit]

The only flaw I can think of is how tedious the Dex tasks can get. I'll still take it over Shining Pearl.

[@portal6884]

I think that's the point. This the best for a multibillion dollar franchise. A franchise that has no excuse of being ad bad as it is now.

[@Imperfectcell13]

@@portal6884 the best of a multi billion dollar company is a widely beloved and popular game? Yeah, I would fucking hope so

[@thefrogman1900]

Delusional

[@darkzeroprojects4245]

​@@portal6884 Someone gets it. Dont think people get why he showed it while he was ranting.

[@DubLonia]

My own point about Nintendo's Copyright problems personally, considering the fact that they've been around for, no joke, 135 years, is that they should be simply concerned of anything but the games the fans made for them. And yes, I do mean 135 Years. They witnessed both the World Wars, Survived 2 bomb blasts, and even the birth, coronation, and death of the Queen. And the true reason they're standing still to this day is because they were able to make such stuff that only focused entirely on not graphics, but fun. So my point is that they should be worried about Fun, not Fangames. And also, Don't bring in the Greed's excuse, cuz that's just a completely different thing i'm not bothered to address.

[@mack4919]

2:19 Hey it’s zebra gamer! I used to watch that guy

[@endermaster08]

4:22 AM2R is not just improved visual and fixes. It is a comeplete overhaul of the game, with some of the map staying similar. AM2R adds a TON of new content outside of visuals. They added a lot of new bosses and abilities. Also, AM2R is a legitimately a REALLY good game. It really feels like an official metroid game. If you haven't played AM2R, find a download and play it.

[@Loldino897]

Look while i dont like Nintendo going after emulation them going after Yuzu was justified since you could pay to emulate TOTK before it even released which is insane and obviously not good for sales

[@billybobjoephilcorncobtiptopge]

one time thing that could have been prevented if nintendo only warned them

[@lordlopes7777]

​@@billybobjoephilcorncobtiptopge Warming would be like saying don't do it to a kid,the kid would still do it and won't stop it.

[@billybobjoephilcorncobtiptopge]

@@lordlopes7777 1. they are not kids, they are fully functional adults that can comprehend what a warning is 2. a legal warning is a lot stronger than just saying "do not do it" 3. how the hell do you know how a kid will react? every kid is different mate

[@mr.reborn5518]

Honestly, if Nintendo ever went down... I wouldn't fully mourn it. It'd be a loss to the gaming industry, but this would actually liberate the fans to *actually* show their love of the games.

[@Swagatronofcybertron]

They would probably take down all their games in a great fire of Rome situation as one final methodical middle finger to the fans who they will probably dub as traitors of the law

[@Kratos7560]

Nintendo should not only allow fan games (and smash bros competitions) like their former competitor, Sega, but hold a competition each year to crown the best one annually. Winners would get a chance to work for them on side projects to bolster against main title droughts or get a cash prize along with their fan game getting a seal of quality to help out the devs in future projects. Nintendo could learn from these fan games to innovate their stagnating franchises while enriching their fanbase to cultiate the ever elusive and dwindling good will companies like them have issues with.

[@Moostar95]

The fact that they're going after palworld. Justify my choices of never owning a switch.

[@ThePlushLuigiBros2018]

Yup. I'm making my own console for all my future indie games....

[@Cyclops_Devil]

I think Nintendo is one of those Very Strict parents that won't let you do anything without permission.

[@jordanacheson1574]

A few things to note: 1. AMR2 was shutdown before Samus Returns came out in 2017 for the 3DS 2. Mario Battle Royale was shutdown for Mario 35 which released in 2020 (and should honestly comeback) 3. Yuzu was shutdown due to emulation of Tears of the Kingdom before it was out as well as the Pateron (Citrus should not've shutdown though) 4. Similarly, Ryujinx was shut down due to emulating Echoes of Wisdom before it was out. 5. For Pokemon, you picked the spinoff (Legends Arceus) with some innovation for the franchise instead of the main ones standard ones (Sword/Shield & Scarlett/Violet) with the bad trees & glitches galore.

[@sadscribble5135]

Never gunna trust a raycon sponsor

[@nightmarearcade2663]

Honestly the only time I feel emulation isn't justified is when you emulate a console still on the market. Retro titles that aren't easy to find or buy for that matter are when I feel emulation should be encouraged cause let's be honest I seriously doubt anyone's gonna rerelease something like Klax on modern hardware. But consoles and games still on the market are where I feel emulation is understandably something I can agree shouldn't be allowed to an extent. It's a bizarre grey area this topic is in isn't it?

[@MegaDude10]

Nintendo Haters mainly emulate the Switch, yet they get a free pass because "Pirating Nintendo is Morally Correct".

[@64bitmodels66]

@@MegaDude10 Mainly emulate the Switch is a big fat lie. there's been a resurgence of Gamecube/Wii emulation since those systems have been scrubbed off the market due to store shutdowns. Not to mention all the dead handhelds they've made that will need to be emulated.

[@MegaDude10]

@@nightmarearcade2663 Hmmm... Never heard about that, care to elaborate?

[@lordlopes7777]

​@@MegaDude10 Most of the people say this are from Brazil tbh. The same country with people say that guy that steals your phone in the middle of the day on bike is a "victim of society"

[@The_Pikaboi]

I gotta be real tho, Ryujinx and Yuzu got caught cause people still used it to pirate games before release date. I have no clue why people bite the hand they know will turn thier entire product to ash, and only makes emulation look worse in nintendos eyes

[@lordlopes7777]

Tbh,let then perish, Nintendo only goes for Switch emulators anyway. So,either people stop pirating newer consoles or Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft will stop it. Also W pfp

[@keego_yt0810]

The devs at Nintendo approve the fangames, but not when it comes to the executives/corporate pigs.

[@DoctorTex]

Nintendo, you're hard to hate....but you're even harder to love.

[@Chancherpancher]

Copyright Trolls are SO ANNOYING!!!

[@Pudding404]

It's nothing short of a miracle how smg4 is still going strong.

[@dan438]

You know what really grinds my gears? ...

[@Certified_Marvin_M0ment]

What

[@jimcobbler3954]

Nintendo doing this would be like if Minecraft patented voxel worlds, or if someone patented quick time events.

[@bucketeer8921]

why does spatnz sound like hes dying in this video

[@gramfero]

Nintendo assasins got to him

[@elliotsturtplus340]

3:41 I mean this one is a remake so it makes sense

[@abrarasaurus]

Their “devs” are good. Not Nintendo.

[@addilink2]

Using SMG4 ‘s Lawsuit funky kong is a level of respect ive never seen

[@RTOmega]

Can't believe man used a SMG4 clip as thumbnail XD.

[@DEHU]

Pokemon Uranium is still being worked on to this day, just new devs and download link is in their Discord

[@klaus.sfc01official30]

🎵 you made a fangame so you get a D. M. C. A., a D. M. C. A. 🎵

[@kiwigaming09]

This, but in the tune of y.m.c.a

[@klaus.sfc01official30]

​@@kiwigaming09 this was actually what i was thinking lol. It's just hard to make that clear in comment form.

[@LandofHeros2234]

AM2R’s creator stopped updating it after the DMCA, all updates after 1.1 were community made

[@kingaxolotl262]

If I’m being honest during the lawsuit arc part of me honestly thought smg4 was getting sued Nintendo doesn’t mess around because that got supermario Logan to delete his channels and change up like almost all of his characters I couldn’t loose smg4

[@Eric-vs2he]

Me on my way to rename my kid Luigi, so my ex-wife can't take her without getting reamed by Nintendo

[@sethisevilone02]

Oh no lawyer kong back