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Nintendo Pirates Are Punching The Air Right Now!!

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GamesJernst

GamesJernst

Күн бұрын

I decided to re-upload since the video wasn't being pushed in the algorithm. Sorry loll.
#nintendoswitch #yuzu #emulation

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@gamesjernst6563
@gamesjernst6563 5 ай бұрын
I plan to reply to more comments later. Might livestream it later tonight if I got the energy after work. This has been fun to discuss.
@blargface1561
@blargface1561 5 ай бұрын
Ur a moron lol Nintendo is disgusting and doesn't give a fck about their customers. They milked a under powered that can't even run their own games for 7 years. They have refused to make a new more powerful console because they are lazy and don't wanna spend the money. When a emulator runs runs a new game better than a "modern" console then that's fkin pathetic and completely nintendos fault. the best way to play a new game shouldn't be on a emulator that's fkin pathetic. If Nintendo didn't want piracy they should provide a console that will produce the quality people want. Why would I spend money to play a worse version of the game? It makes no fkin sense. Grow up man . This video is fkin delusional asf
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
@@blargface1561get owned you dumb pirate
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
@@blargface1561 apparently no, they do care about their costumers, they wouldn’t have initiated a lawsuit otherwise. Nice strawman as usual from you pirates
@ZekeLawl
@ZekeLawl 5 ай бұрын
Respond to this please How do you purpose people deal with these problems if Yuzu and possibly Ryujinx are gone: 1: Games that are not legally obtainable outside of paying price gougers on eBay which in no way benefits the developer or publisher if you purchase 2: Games that are no longer sold and are from studios that are no longer in business 3: No longer being able to back up their own cartridges by dumping them and using an emulator to play them 100% legally, ESPECIALLY when the games are no longer in production 4: The fact that there is no digital ownership protection, and companies can (and do and will continue to) revoke licenses for movies, and no longer have any obligation to allow you to download digital games when they feel like shutting down their servers. This isn’t just a problem in the games industry, it’s a problem with all digital products. I don’t think anyone is defending the idea of emulating a brand new game and pirating it, I have only ever seen people be shamed for that behavior and rightfully so but that doesn’t mean something like this situation with Yuzu should be celebrated and punishing moral users (which are the absolute vast majority). I also want to ask how people actually believe the supposed damage that the minority of people who pirate games do, because these companies constantly report insane levels of profits. People getting laid off while executives are getting millions of dollars does not mean that emulation is at fault for mass layoffs, we all know that it’s greed.
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
@@ZekeLawl 3rd party emulation needs to implement anti piracy measures. Like, you probably actually need denuvo online DRM or something, and if you back up your physical games, then the cartridge needs to be unusable and unsellable, until your backups are gone or something. That way the costumers can’t exploit selling selling backed up games and companies can’t exploit you selling the same game to you again by revoking your license, since you have it preserved. So, really the answer to all your question are gonna involve sacrifices in some freedom, just to ensure youre not a fraud or plans to exploit. Maybe emulation scene is ready to start building the discourse now when they lost a really valueable dev and project, most likely abolsutly not, things are most likely gonna continue as it has been in the emulating scene for decades. The point is to appease and build your case for a solid argument, because it’s always gonna be dmca infringement, and reduce piracy spread to 0 because that’s where it needs to be in this area. I think that will save emulation.
@theredgoblin562
@theredgoblin562 5 ай бұрын
"You wouldnt download a car" 🤓🤓🤓🤓 yes i would bro
@neoqwerty
@neoqwerty 5 ай бұрын
I wouldn't but that's more a skill issue than anything else: I just don't trust myself to 3D print and assemble THAT MUCH pieces when I already have troubles not turning IKEA furniture into modernist art deco sculptures.
@PokemonPlatinum1201
@PokemonPlatinum1201 5 ай бұрын
absolutely glazing for nintendo 😭😭😭
@gamesjernst6563
@gamesjernst6563 5 ай бұрын
We all have something we like 😘
@jaycooker
@jaycooker 5 ай бұрын
"You will own nothing and be happy"
@gamesjernst6563
@gamesjernst6563 5 ай бұрын
I REFUSE TO EAT THE BUG
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
That’s me everytime my poop leaves my system, delicious food, happy times!
@neetpride5919
@neetpride5919 5 ай бұрын
@@gamesjernst6563 I mean, if you're anti-piracy you definitely will eat the bugs or do whatever else you're told
@poisonouspotato1
@poisonouspotato1 5 ай бұрын
the shampoo bottles better give you a standing ovation for this hot take
@solidkeys
@solidkeys 5 ай бұрын
lmao fr
@gamesjernst6563
@gamesjernst6563 5 ай бұрын
It's less my shampoo bottles and more so my legion of rats and gnomes. They listen to me.
@poisonouspotato1
@poisonouspotato1 5 ай бұрын
@@gamesjernst6563 the pirates are so mad right now. What will they use in the future to play stolen games? The current version of Yuzu? Ryujinx? No, It's impossible to pirate anything because the evil FOSS team was heroically sued by the white knight Nintendo, ending all organized cyber-crime once and for all. Let's keep on buying and kissing *ss
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
@@poisonouspotato1Hopefully this is triggers a huge discourse surrounding the lack of anti piracy measures in emulation. Maybe then people will take 3rd party emulation serious
@ProjectionProjects2.7182
@ProjectionProjects2.7182 5 ай бұрын
@@livesinalazywonderland4021 You do realize that emulators like Yuzu literally cant stop piracy right? let me give you a thought experiment that explains why: Suppose you had two roms. One was legally purchased and dumped while the other was downloaded illegally from the internet. Lets call the legal rom "A" while the illegal rom will be called "B". Lets take A and put it into a hex editor. You should be able to see the hex data for the rom. Now lets put B in the hex editor. You should be able to see the hex data for this rom too. If you did this, what you would notice is that the data for both A and B looks exactly the same. This is the problem, An emulator can not tell the difference between a pirated rom and a dumped rom BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SAME ON A TECHNICAL LEVEL. If an emulator can not tell the difference then how is it suppose to know you got the rom, if it is pirated or not? The reason why this is true is because Illegal roms (B) started out as dumped roms (A), the only difference is that one was uploaded to a file sharing (B) while the other was not (A). All roms start out as A so they will be Identical to A. But lets take this a step farther and suppose Yuzu finds some magical way to determine the difference. between A and B. Even if Yuzu did accomplish this, due to the open source nature of Yuzu pirates could simply take that code and modify it to get rid of the check that find the difference between A and B. Effectively pirates will end up just using the modified version of Yuzu that dose not have the check. So piracy will continue on as normal, making Yuzus efforts pointless.
@PhantomCooper
@PhantomCooper 5 ай бұрын
Hows the funko--pop collection going?
@gamesjernst6563
@gamesjernst6563 5 ай бұрын
Don't have one.
@MatheusKlSch
@MatheusKlSch 5 ай бұрын
There are literally thousands of takes possible over the whole situation and you choose the shittiest one, plus calling your opponents "brokies" isn't going to help. Enjoy all the dislikes.
@gamesjernst6563
@gamesjernst6563 5 ай бұрын
Good content farming
@RancorousSea
@RancorousSea 5 ай бұрын
@@gamesjernst6563 71 videos deep, not looking like it "I decided to re-upload since the video wasn't being pushed in the algorithm" not looking like it
@kittentheboss2796
@kittentheboss2796 5 ай бұрын
I won't won't call you a "blind consumer". I will however call you a Scientologist because those are the types of companies defending DMCA section 1201.
@kurry8196
@kurry8196 5 ай бұрын
I own my switch, I should be able to dump the games and keys if I want to. You have it wrong, people aren’t upset that they can’t pirate anymore. They are upset because we could lose games due to switch emulation being attacked. I do agree Yuzu went too far with the patron and the pre release patches, that was stupid and stepped over the line. And also I have spent like 1k on this switch generation. I didn’t use Yuzu to Pirate, but to play my games how I want to play them
@gamesjernst6563
@gamesjernst6563 5 ай бұрын
Well, in my video, I said I have no issue with emulation existing. If anything, I encourage it because it's legal. Yuzu, as an emulator being gone is sad, but I'm sorry the majority of people using it were just pirating new switch games.
@shrimpchris6580
@shrimpchris6580 5 ай бұрын
@@gamesjernst6563 Keep shadow boxing your strawmen, schizo
@Quintessence4444
@Quintessence4444 5 ай бұрын
I'm conflicted only because it's current gen and the Switch barely runs it's own games but this doesn't make it any more or less likely that you won't be able to emulate Switch games in the future. Patreon was ridiculous yeah emulation is supposed to be hush hush, not Kotaku guides on how to pirate the next Switch games...
@YodielandInhabitant710
@YodielandInhabitant710 5 ай бұрын
@@gamesjernst6563 It hurts nintendo so it's based and redpilled.
@shrimpchris6580
@shrimpchris6580 5 ай бұрын
@@gamesjernst6563Me when I make up strawmen to feel superior
@juicetimer
@juicetimer 5 ай бұрын
your like to dislike ratio is 5-32 right now lol
@solidkeys
@solidkeys 5 ай бұрын
Perfectly unbalanced, as it should be
@gamesjernst6563
@gamesjernst6563 5 ай бұрын
Let me cook bro just wait it out.
@solidkeys
@solidkeys 5 ай бұрын
@@gamesjernst6563 you ain't gonna cook shit
@crisnmaryfam7344
@crisnmaryfam7344 5 ай бұрын
11-113
@olmrgreen1904
@olmrgreen1904 5 ай бұрын
Yeah whatever fanboy - sounds like you're the one whining here
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
Enjoy your dead open source emulator lol
@olmrgreen1904
@olmrgreen1904 5 ай бұрын
@@livesinalazywonderland4021 I'm sorry to break it to you but emulators won't die because of a lawsuit
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
Emulators exist even in Switch online, dawg. You pay to use it. As for yuzu? 2.4 million fine and all tools terminated, yeah that sounds like permanently f. Enjoy that open source code though
@MatheusKlSch
@MatheusKlSch 5 ай бұрын
@@livesinalazywonderland4021 "dead" and "open source" is only possible if no one is interested. You cannot kill an open source project. Trust me, Microsoft tried and failed.
@solidkeys
@solidkeys 5 ай бұрын
​@@livesinalazywonderland4021you severely underestimate the power of big open source project boy
@dice5709
@dice5709 5 ай бұрын
Remember kids, pirating games is good and even better when it's Nintendo games. Ain't no way you're catching me play Their shitty Zelda open, empty world games with 30 fps.
@Siggrim
@Siggrim 5 ай бұрын
What the hell are these levels?
@NeoECCHI
@NeoECCHI 5 ай бұрын
why would anyone buy a consoles whos hardware is far worse than others in its price point. if nintendo wants people on pc to buy their games, they should port them to pc or make somewhat decent hardware
@HagsHassler
@HagsHassler 5 ай бұрын
On god.
@pomfers
@pomfers 5 ай бұрын
everyone buys their games, they don't care if you don't like it
@AesWhole
@AesWhole 5 ай бұрын
there's an argument to be made regarding yuzu and what the true intentions of the developers were, but this is not it 💀 educate yourself
@Munchigan
@Munchigan 5 ай бұрын
Punching the air? Tell that to Nuzu or Suyu 😂😂😂 or what was it called? Ryujinx, Emu, Dolphin... yeah, you're right... and I personally play on pc and don't care but long live emulation!!!
@gamesjernst6563
@gamesjernst6563 5 ай бұрын
You say that like I said I hated emulation
@Munchigan
@Munchigan 5 ай бұрын
@@gamesjernst6563 It was my answer to the title of the vid. I bought my niece a switch and installed yuzu on a mini pc so that she could play her games in 4k. You can clearly see that mario kart 8 looks better on yuzu than the switch. You can scale the screen using antialiasing, amd super resolution, etc... remap the controllers, you can do a lot of things that makes yuzu very convenient. Not everything is about piracy. And when even a kid prefers the emulation to the original console, well, you did something wrong along the way... just my two cents. I didn't mean to offend anybody.
@robertsandee3349
@robertsandee3349 5 ай бұрын
In most cases it's the fans and modders that keep franchises alive.
@dupetrooper
@dupetrooper 5 ай бұрын
people who installed yuzu before it got taken down: also look at that beautiful 5-40 like to dislike ratio
@gamesjernst6563
@gamesjernst6563 5 ай бұрын
It's more like 6-92 but eh, whose keeping count?
@susch7466
@susch7466 5 ай бұрын
Modded switches and cartridges will always exist. nintendo has lost on day 1
@gamesjernst6563
@gamesjernst6563 5 ай бұрын
You say that like a I care 😭😭 mod your console it's yours. Yall are missing the point lmaooo.
@darknezeagle
@darknezeagle 5 ай бұрын
Consoomer. Plus they could just release games on PC if they wanted to crush yuzu but no, they just fuck anyone wanting to not get an eyesore. Also piracy is good and that's a big L to claim it's just whining
@gamesjernst6563
@gamesjernst6563 5 ай бұрын
Why should Nintendo sell their games on PC when the switch in the dominant console right now? Microsoft and Sony only do it because their games budgets are vastly bigger than Nintendos, and their games aren't breaking even on those current platforms. And I'm sorry if Nintendo games running at 900p-1080p isn't good enough for you that's on you, brother.
@darknezeagle
@darknezeagle 5 ай бұрын
@@gamesjernst6563 omfg it's not about resolution have even looked at a switch game ? I emulate every game i have on switch and there's no comparison. Also people emulating and pirating games often come when it's never worth it to use the paid product. You never hear about ps4/5 or xbox emulation cause these platforms are actually not horrendous, the switch is, the convenience of a portable console is huge, but the autonomy is not really good. There you have it. About Nintendo releasing their games on PC, i think the audience for console is actually not influenced by people who emulate the switch, they will not buy the Switch either way. And let's be honest the reason they don't sell games on other platforms is so that they can overprice the shit out of them like any other console exclusive
@darknezeagle
@darknezeagle 5 ай бұрын
@@gamesjernst6563 on an another note this legal battle sets the precedent for anyone to sue emulators and suppress the ability to play games on discontinued consoles, and it is already happening as a 3ds emulator has seized support fearing the same fate as yuzu.
@gamesjernst6563
@gamesjernst6563 5 ай бұрын
@darknezeagle you never hear about PS4/Xbox emulation because they haven't been able to figure out how to do it lmao. Are you serious rn? That's the hill you're willing to die on, lmao? They've been trying to figure it out for years but haven't been able to because of the chip set in those two consoles. Also, yeah, I have played a game on Swith, more than likely more than you. And all nintendo first party titles run at 900p-1080p and look better than some PS5 games. Luigis Mansion 3, for example.
@gamesjernst6563
@gamesjernst6563 5 ай бұрын
@darknezeagle Maybe they shouldn't leak games, sell other companies' games, and profit off their patreon, and they'll be left alone.
@ProjectionProjects2.7182
@ProjectionProjects2.7182 5 ай бұрын
(This is a bit long but I recommend you read it) "People are upset that they can no longer pirate Nintendo switch games" No people are upset that they can no longer play the games they legally paid for and dumped on there preferred emulator. Piracy has not gone away for the Switch because you can still download roms from rom sites. You can even play pirated games using another emulator or even a hacked Switch. Should we get rid of Switches because you can play pirated games on them? Also getting rid of Yuzu dose not solve the problem. In fact, Nintendos actions might ironically just encourage even more people to pirate just out of spite for Nintendo. Also while yes at the time of this video the switch is still Nintendos current console, that dose not mean that I am not allowed to dump my own purchased games and play them on Yuzu (You do mention this in the video so thats good). The problem here is Nintendo is trying to take away that option from you, the consumer. They believe everyone should just play the games you paid for ONLY on there hardware and ONLY on there terms. This is all about power, if Nintendo had everything there way there would be no 3rd party emulators for any of there consoles to begin with. If Nintendo wants to discourage people from pirating their games then they should: Release there games (at least there older games) on PC, provide a better service then what there currently providing, sell there older games at more reasonable price and give the option to buy and digitally download games from there NSO service. What they should NOT be doing is shutting down rom sites for games there not even selling, shuting down fan games, and shutting down emulators. "Yuzu was profiting off of Nintendos IP" Not exactly, you could argue that Yuzu team were profiting off the work THEY did to make the emulator. People were DONATING Yuzu money for high quality switch emulation (they were also offering early access to in development features for Yuzu but that is obviously not Nintendos IP so my point still stands), If people want to pay someone for Nintendos IP, they would just pay Nintendo, not Yuzu. Another thing is that Im not sure you realize is that making an emulator is hard. You have to study how the hardware you want to emulate works, then write your own code that replicates how that hardware works, release your work to download and then make frequent updates to that work over the course of years. All of this mind you without the help of Nintendo. Why should they not be given any financial support for there work? You know what let me ask a better question: If Nintendo is allowed to make money off the work they put in to make their games then why is Yuzu not allowed to make money off the work they put into their emulator (without the help of Nintendo by the way)? Do you see the double standard here? The answer is THERE BOTH ALOWED TO MAKE MONEY OFF THERE OWN WORK! One last thing is If Yuzu was profiting off Nintendo's IP why was there no rom or key downloads on there site? Why was everyone able to just download the emulator for free? You would think if Yuzu was as bad as you seem to think they are they would just lock the downloads to everything behind a paywall. You don't have to agree with everything I say but I just want anyone who reads this to understand that the topic of emulation and piracy is a lot more complicated and nuanced then: Yuzu bad, Nintendo good. Hopefully I made my points clear.
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
lol the first point is so dumb, just play it on switch. Oh wait, you don’t own a switch and nor any games. Nice try pirate.
@ProjectionProjects2.7182
@ProjectionProjects2.7182 5 ай бұрын
@@livesinalazywonderland4021 When did I say I was a Pirate? And yes I do play switch games on my switch stop making assumptions on how I play my games. Also you don't explain why my point is stupid. Saying "Just play on switch" is not an argument because not everyone wants to play switch games they purchased on switch due to worse performance and visuals.
@ProjectionProjects2.7182
@ProjectionProjects2.7182 5 ай бұрын
@@livesinalazywonderland4021 You clearly did not read any of my comment.
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
Why not just wait then? Do you really need to get your software sued for 2.4 million because you don’t have a solution against piracy for unreleased games in this instance? Yuzu had this coming to them, they had years to work on a solution and they did what the rest of 3rd party emulating scene did and ignored it till it was too late. Just play it on switch like the rest of us and stop advocating for software that is trying ruin it for people who buy their games, for devs who creative minds are disrespected and for 3rd party emulation whose idea of preservation is looked upon as piracy. You need to sacrifice some freedom if you truly want the benefits of emulation.
@_B_E
@_B_E 5 ай бұрын
@@livesinalazywonderland4021 Wow you're possible an even bigger loser than the dude who made this video.
@BIG_HAMZ
@BIG_HAMZ 5 ай бұрын
Nintendo creates their own launcher for pc with all their games = problem solved + record profits
@Kaztrofy
@Kaztrofy 5 ай бұрын
Nintendo seems to get orgasms everytime someone plays their games in low resolution and framerates.
@theredgoblin562
@theredgoblin562 5 ай бұрын
Fan games can probably hurt their bottom line just as much as emulation, whats your logic lol. You only respect copyright law if its curbing creativity you dont care about
@Ahmad-cj4ef
@Ahmad-cj4ef 5 ай бұрын
me laughing in native switch piracy with a paperclip
@DukenukemX
@DukenukemX 5 ай бұрын
Yuzu did nothing illegal. Also, Nintendo and Sony have went to court over emulation many times and lost. Yuzu decided to just pay them $2.4 million to avoid spending 10x more of that to fight a company as big as Nintendo is. Also remember Yuzu is open source, so it's likely to continue. Also also, Ryujinx still exists and was as good if not better than Yuzu. This does literally nothing for Switch emulation. Do you think emulation is entirely responsible for piracy, when you still need a modded Switch to dump games? This can be done to literally any Switch now with some basic soldering skills. Ask me how I know. A general rule is if you try to stop piracy, you make pirating even easier.
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
That’s not true lmfao, legendary key encryption crackers can’t even beat denuvo drms from 5 years ago, some has even completely quit the scene. All you do when you promote piracy is speeding up anti piracy measures. Good luck persuading people who purchases their games but suddenly denuvo tanks their performance because people like you can’t stop justifying and promoting piracy, nice way of ruin it for both the consumers and the companies.
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
That’s not true lmfao, legendary key encryption hackers can’t even beat denuvo drms from 5 years ago, some has even completely quit the scene. All you do when you promote piracy is speeding up anti piracy measures. Good luck persuading people who purchases their games but suddenly denuvo tanks their performance because people like you can’t stop justifying and promoting piracy, nice way of ruin it for both the consumers and the companies.
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
That’s not true lmao, legendary key encryption hackers can’t even beat denuvo drms from 5 years ago, some has even completely quit the scene. All you do when you promote piracy is speeding up anti piracy measures. Good luck with your rhetoric to people who purchases their games but suddenly denuvo tanks their performance because people like you can’t stop justifying and promoting piracy, nice way of ruin it for both the consumers and the companies.
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
+ you don’t need a switch or your own dumped games to run switch games on yuzu. You need to sacrifice some of your freedom and think of actual solutions if you want third party emulation to thrive or else you’re gonna find yourself in twists like these again, unless that’s your point, then go for it I guess.
@RealMephres
@RealMephres 5 ай бұрын
​@@livesinalazywonderland4021"you are supporting scummy things by actively working against them" is next-level gaslighting, i give you that
@SoupcanFran
@SoupcanFran 5 ай бұрын
consooomer moment
@jaycooker
@jaycooker 5 ай бұрын
Man said dont call me a blind consumer then proceeds to act like a blind consumer (calling people a "brokey"), i and alot of people in my circle have switches and buy switch games that being said me and the other select few friends that do emulate only emulate games weve bought me with smash metroid dread and btow friends mainly just emulate smash, so get the nintendildo out of you and chill you quite literally have no clue what you're talking about yes there are bad actors but that wasn't the majority in this case
@solidkeys
@solidkeys 5 ай бұрын
Lmao nintendildo
@ProjectionProjects2.7182
@ProjectionProjects2.7182 5 ай бұрын
"Nintendildo" got em 🤣😂
@somethingofascientist
@somethingofascientist 5 ай бұрын
Been enjoying my pirated copy of Mario vs Donkey Kong on a different emulator. Making videos like these, replying to every comment, and streaming it sure does prove that you're not the upset one here. (do your parents a favor and go take a shower)
@uhhcallmejefe
@uhhcallmejefe 5 ай бұрын
Man, the bottom of Nintendo's boot must be coated in sugar for you to be licking it this hard
@gamesjernst6563
@gamesjernst6563 5 ай бұрын
*cum
@theredgoblin562
@theredgoblin562 5 ай бұрын
Actually legally speaking the entire ecosystem of modification and user interface is being challanged as a piracy platform. Your essentially shitting on home engineering in favor of a big company playing politics
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
Then they’re not a good role model for home engineering when your work is being regarded as piracy. Actual home engineers has every right to be mad at devs like yuzu for trying to ruin a fun career, 2.4 million fine for that stupidness and 5+ years of work gone is a good trade
@theredgoblin562
@theredgoblin562 5 ай бұрын
@@livesinalazywonderland4021 what are you talking about? What fun career is yuzu ruining. From your other comments you just sound salty that other people get to play for free when you paid. Nintendo is a bloated company. They didnt really need your money. And yuzu is actually making the market interesting by taking power away from greedy corporations.
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
Oh so you just lied about home engineering is being considered piracy, got it. I guess you pirates just want stuff to be mad about and once you get yourself in a twist like these you’re acting like the victim. You’re just malicious, I hate people like you for ruining the entire discourse for the rest of us
@ProjectionProjects2.7182
@ProjectionProjects2.7182 5 ай бұрын
@@livesinalazywonderland4021 "Then they’re not a good role model for home engineering when your work is being regarded as piracy." All home engineering inevitably leads to piracy but that dose not mean that thats what the engineers intended it. They are not responsible for the actions of pirates and nether is Yuzu. Please stop being a fanboy.
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
@@ProjectionProjects2.7182 stop white knighting for developers like yuzu then. Let the real men handle emulation from now on
@Sivanot
@Sivanot 5 ай бұрын
Yeah even if Yuzu was made solely to prevent Nintendo from ever seeing another dollar, tbatd be based as fuck.
@think-draw-animate6589
@think-draw-animate6589 5 ай бұрын
I purchased a physical tears of the kingdom and have a switch but still wanted to use yuzu to play it at more than 24 fps after I tried it on the console
@ProjectionProjects2.7182
@ProjectionProjects2.7182 5 ай бұрын
And you have every right to do that.
@womp6338
@womp6338 5 ай бұрын
My favourite thing is the people saying they will 'boycott' nintendo over this... because they were totally supporting them before with the pirated games they were playing. And I bet they will cave in anyway, nintendo is one of the few large companies that actually makes good games.
@_B_E
@_B_E 5 ай бұрын
Prove that there's any overlap with people saying they'll boycott Nintendo, and people who exclusively pirated their games. I'll wait.
@womp6338
@womp6338 5 ай бұрын
@@_B_E prove that there isn't
@_B_E
@_B_E 5 ай бұрын
@@womp6338 lmao that's not how that works buddy. You made an assertion, therefor the burden of proof is on you.
@womp6338
@womp6338 5 ай бұрын
@@_B_E you're asserting the opposite, brokie. you're just mad cause you want me to follow your made up debate rules. people obviously pirate, and they obviously lie online. this is obvious and anyone with a brain already knows it, any time proving it is just a waste of time for people in denial like you who will always be in denial no matter what evidence I come up with
@_B_E
@_B_E 5 ай бұрын
​@@womp6338 Mmmm so you have ZERO evidence that there's an overlap between people boycotting Nintendo and people who exclusively pirate their games, got it!
@lo855
@lo855 5 ай бұрын
Nintendo has a history of attacking people's passion projects like romhacks of 20+ year old games because they're so aggressive in defending their IP. They've always tried to take down emulators, and often were unsuccessful. If they could get rid of every emulator, legal or not, they would. They have explicitly taken a stance against the very concept of emulation. This is just the latest expression of that stance, so people are upset. My understanding is that in this particular case, Nintendo's 'smoking gun' is that they have irrefutable proof of the Yuzu team effectively facilitating discussions of piracy on their platforms, and weren't doing enough to stop said discussions from happening even on their own discord server. So while yes Nintendo wins this one, it leaves people with the feeling of them taking advantage of a technicality to take down one of their perceived threats: an emulator. Nintendo's foaming at the mouth, wishing they could go further. Also yes most of it is very soy and a lot of people don't understand what's good or what's bad about it they're just mad because they see tweets and youtubers talking about it being bad.
@Alpha4706_
@Alpha4706_ 5 ай бұрын
People still have it on thier computers bro
@angeloluna529
@angeloluna529 5 ай бұрын
Only games i supporting pirating on are games that are no longer in the market from the older gen of consoles like the ps1 and 2 consoles of games. If sony and microsoft continue to make games for their older consoles at a good price then i will buy, as long as their physical.
@metakn1ght
@metakn1ght 5 ай бұрын
imagine proudly defending a multi-billion dollar company ran by dinosaurs that actively hate their fans
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
“Fans”, I mean, nobody likes pirates. Be gone with you
@_B_E
@_B_E 5 ай бұрын
@@livesinalazywonderland4021 clown
@metakn1ght
@metakn1ght 5 ай бұрын
@@livesinalazywonderland4021 lol
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
@@_B_E love you too buddy
@Fuel6233
@Fuel6233 5 ай бұрын
Playing my cracked switch while watching this
@SpongeMattb
@SpongeMattb 5 ай бұрын
L opinion, I can see your 173 dislikes
@gamesjernst6563
@gamesjernst6563 5 ай бұрын
Nooo please don't tell my mom I need my gold star!!
@imnotbaldbtw7550
@imnotbaldbtw7550 5 ай бұрын
Ah yes, Im a brokie bc I was born in a third world country where Nintendo does not sell their consoles officially and when the consoles do come here they cost 500+ USD (usually used) where most of the population does not make $500 a month, totally a skill issue on my part.
@imnotbaldbtw7550
@imnotbaldbtw7550 5 ай бұрын
Pretending like yuzu patreon is eating nitendo profit is absurd to me. The people that pay for yuzu patreon are not representative of those who pirate games out of need. I would never pay for yuzu bc I can't pay Nintendo in the first place!!!! the money that yuzu is bringing in is calculation error for a company like Nintendo but they would go through the effort of "protecting their ips" to keep on gouging people of lesser economic status by refusing to set regional prices or even lower their damn prices.
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
If you don’t understand what has happened then don’t say anything, educate yourself
@imnotbaldbtw7550
@imnotbaldbtw7550 5 ай бұрын
@@livesinalazywonderland4021 brother i'm commenting on what has been said in the video, chill with the white knighting
@gamesjernst6563
@gamesjernst6563 5 ай бұрын
Yes, you are. Thank you. Now back to work, brokie.
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
@@imnotbaldbtw7550 clown
@ZekeLawl
@ZekeLawl 5 ай бұрын
If buying a game isn’t owning it, then piracy isn’t stealing. Cheer for this now man, but in the future when these switch games are $200 on eBay and there’s no longer a switch emulator to use you’ll just have to be willing to accept the fact that you never defended the idea of preserving games. You seem to have this idea that switch emulation = piracy, the VAST majority of people don’t do that, usually people buy the game and dump their carts for switch in particular since those games are still in circulation. You’re defending something that hurts the vast majority of ethical users and probably still will not stop actual pirates. What an elementary take.
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
True, pirating isn’t stealing, it’s big finger, lack of respect to the creative minds and wishes behind the games, not to mention dmca infringement. You need to start advocating for anti piracy measures in emulators if you want anyone to take your personal game preservation plan serious. You’re the one who is defending piracy btw, which hurts the ethical users. You realize we have denuvo DRMs now in new games thanks to piracy apologists like you. Educate yourself, stop acting like a victim and then go victim blame when you get caught
@_B_E
@_B_E 5 ай бұрын
@@livesinalazywonderland4021 you're ignorant. educate yourself.
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
@@_B_E keep killing the industry for both 3rd party emulation scene, costumers and devs then. You’re just malicious, entitled and dumb
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
@@_B_E keep killing the industry for both 3rd party emulation scene and costumers and devs then. You’re just mlicious, entitled and dumb
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
@@_B_E keep killing the industry for both 3rd party emulation scene and costumers and devs then. You’re just spiteful, entitled and dumb
@Snaxolotl71
@Snaxolotl71 5 ай бұрын
How does the boot taste lil bro?
@juicetimer
@juicetimer 5 ай бұрын
Even though switch emulators are present during the switch's current lifespan that doesn't mean they're only being used for piracy. There are other valid use cases for emulators beyond just preserving them. Yuzu may have screwed themselves over in this situation but Nintendo goes beyond what you're talking about. They hate all emulation and claim it stifles innovation despite using emulation in their official products and treat their fans like dirt constantly. I don't condone switch piracy but I have no sympathy for them losing money after their behaviour during the switch era.
@crisnmaryfam7344
@crisnmaryfam7344 5 ай бұрын
0:40 And we care why? WE dont. Clearly you do though! Yuzu is gone, but it will (and already ahs) popped back up in other forms. Nintendo over here acting like they can stop the internet from having pron..... NOT GONNA HAPPEN. Same thing, Internet and piracy goes hand in hand. Nintendo will never be powerful enough to stop the internet.
@ProjectionProjects2.7182
@ProjectionProjects2.7182 5 ай бұрын
Yes that correct. Nintendos waisting there time and money.
@glitchiono
@glitchiono 5 ай бұрын
so I've got my foot both in and out of your proverbial room; although I do agree that yuzu basically means next to nothing *RIGHT NOW* other than piracy, proactive preservation and the convenience of modding, CITRA, a nostalgic 3ds emulator that I love got caught in the crossfire, and now I have an illegal substance on my hard drive and a burden upon my back. for all you emu-bros, calm down; switch emulation isn't dead forever.
@gamesjernst6563
@gamesjernst6563 5 ай бұрын
I didn't know CITRA got shut down with it which is really trash it had to go
@glitchiono
@glitchiono 5 ай бұрын
@@gamesjernst6563yeah
@ProjectionProjects2.7182
@ProjectionProjects2.7182 5 ай бұрын
@@gamesjernst6563 Yeah you should have researched more. Nintendo is being shitty in this situation.
@_B_E
@_B_E 5 ай бұрын
If Nintendo can bully a group into ceasing their legal activities, that sets a precedence whether or not they win a legal battle in court. Why would they stop there if they don't even need the law on their side? How can you say that "emu-bros" need to calm down in the face of that? Siding with Nintendo here is the objectively incorrect choice.
@glitchiono
@glitchiono 5 ай бұрын
@@_B_Efair point
@Bigtimersh5
@Bigtimersh5 5 ай бұрын
The only reason why I hate Nintendo nowadays is due to them refusing to adapt to the modern market and make an Eshop version specifically for PC. I don’t even care if they re-release their games on Steam, I just want them to create a solution for users who want to play their games on PC both in a legal and convenient way. This would be if Nintendo wants to make their own launcher for their games on PC or to just do that on Steam instead…
@ProjectionProjects2.7182
@ProjectionProjects2.7182 5 ай бұрын
Yes if Nintendo made there games available on steam people would be less encouraged to pirate.
@TimoKitsune
@TimoKitsune 5 ай бұрын
Someone I know mentioned this video, so I looked at the title of your other videos. The impression I'm getting is that you have a stance that is quite pro-consumer, but I'm confused as to why you'd take the opposite approach in this topic. You don't have to agree with piracy or the approach Yuzu took all this time, but I feel like you'd at least acknowledge why we're siding with Yuzu and piracy on this. It doesn't make sense to mock the direction modern gaming is going where the devs bash us and double down...then pull the same tactic the industry is taking over this particular issue. This is all I want to suggest: Take a step back and think about the direction you're taking.
@ProjectionProjects2.7182
@ProjectionProjects2.7182 5 ай бұрын
Yes the person who made this video is not thinking critically and should have done more research. He did not even mention or know that Citra even died because of Nintendo's shit actions. Yet he acts like he knows more then everyone else. Ironic and a good example of the Dunning Kruger effect. 👌
@emphathicc4832
@emphathicc4832 5 ай бұрын
Yuzu has been shutdown, oh no!!!! I will use ryujinx from now on
@auxy6858
@auxy6858 5 ай бұрын
I disagree with you but I get your point. Emulation isn't the same as piracy however yuzu does enable it for current hardware. However nintendo is arguing that dumping your own games is illegal, also nintendo has always been pissy with IP case in point you used to have to pay them to upload nintendo games to youtube.
@gamesjernst6563
@gamesjernst6563 5 ай бұрын
100% agree. Nintendo has done actual terrible stuff as a company, but I really don't blame them in this instance. Like I'll get pissy with them when I feel it's justified. I just feel like the Twitter Nintendo base just gets mad at Nintendo if they point their finger in a general direction.
@ProjectionProjects2.7182
@ProjectionProjects2.7182 5 ай бұрын
@@gamesjernst6563 They were not "Pointing in a general direction" they were pointing there finger specifically at Yuzu. Did you even read the lawsuit? if you did you would see what Nintendo actually thinks of emulation and game dumping. Stop defending this company
@nwerd7584
@nwerd7584 5 ай бұрын
this video wont be pushed because its a bad take. I already know of 2 that were taking its place before it was actually shut down. cut off 1 head 2 appear. Nothing has been stopped.
@gamesjernst6563
@gamesjernst6563 5 ай бұрын
Well, you're wrong about that one, buddy. You ever here of engagement farming?
@nwerd7584
@nwerd7584 5 ай бұрын
@@gamesjernst6563 Yeah I have, but those people dont stick around or stay which then sends your channel on a dive telling the algo this channel is dead and never grows again. Same issue botting your channel ruins it. Especially if youre pro copyright law that's beyond broken.
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
@@nwerd7584anyone who is pro copyright law is so because they’re sick of entitled dumbdumbs like you for excusing pirates while exploiting costumers who has to pay and suffer with denuvo drms. I’m sure you’ve been working so hard to fix the broken copyright laws. I am so glad denuvo is unhackable for years because now pirates are finally starting to face the same real issues as costumers, costumers are NOT on your side. Enjoy your dead emulator and game preservation projects, it’s no wonder people don’t release their creative works to the public anymore due to people like you.
@5izzy557
@5izzy557 5 ай бұрын
Me while the emulator still exists & so does another one in active dev xD. Also, I personally use my consoles and emulators to pirate games. I'm what you call a brokey... although i've saved tones of money xD
@FBI_Master
@FBI_Master 5 ай бұрын
Yuzo was just an emulator. It followed all the rules. You had to dump your own keys from real hardware, they shared nothing illegal.
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
You didn’t have to dump your own keys and you didn’t even have to own any games or real hardware to use yuzu. Are you suggesting that yuzu should have worked with denuvo to implement DRMs? Typical playing the victim while victim blaming. More like FBI_Fraud
@_B_E
@_B_E 5 ай бұрын
@@livesinalazywonderland4021 Yuzu isn't responsible for what its end users do. If users download games or keys from 3rd party sites how is that Yuzu's responsiblity? Do you think car manufacturers should be responsible for people who do car related crimes? Moron.
@snowthemegaabsol6819
@snowthemegaabsol6819 5 ай бұрын
The emulator itself isn't the problem, it was the fact that the Yuzu quickstart guide and official discord contained instructions for how to bypass DRM protection, even pointing to specific tools to do so, which is strictly illegal [simply acknowledging that such tools exist is fine, but naming them and promoting their use, especially with the knowledge that they are used for direct infringement, is not] The actual charge is basically a form of contributory infringement, and the thing about that is that intent doesn't matter, only knowledge of the emulator's use. Nintendo was only able to make a case here because they had evidence that piracy was being committed, essentially incriminating the emulator even if it isn't inherently illegal by itself. It's a reminder that the waters of emulation are a minefield, and even a little carelessness can sink anyone.
@_B_E
@_B_E 5 ай бұрын
@@snowthemegaabsol6819 Then they should have just required them to remove that content from their sites. Shutting down the entire group is a huge overreach.
@amarg7657
@amarg7657 5 ай бұрын
Idc they can’t eliminate it forever new and better pirating method will surface and take its place. Pirating is can’t die just be postponed i own a switch and several games I love physical copies but I should be able to play my game how I want hack it etc download it nice opinion I respect it but id have to disagree with it tho thanks for the video very informative tho, Nintendo’s DLC content is outrageously, expensive, and anti-consumer. They don’t actually care about making good games because they could just release a patch so I’m gonna buy whatever I want and pirate whatever else I want.
@Kaztrofy
@Kaztrofy 5 ай бұрын
It's not for perservation, it's to make their games playable since N can't release competent hardware. I buy the games and use the emulator to play them to get decent performance. If they at least released the games on PC properly but they really have to be obnoxious in all possible ways.
@rarenaoto7633
@rarenaoto7633 5 ай бұрын
Casual playstation emulator dub as per usual
@rashira9610
@rashira9610 5 ай бұрын
Nintendrones in full defense. You made a real good attempt at engagement farming, but it;s not going to help your clearly middling channel. When you take your fanboy goggles off and realize that this is an abuse of the legal system on Nintendo's part, maybe we can have a discussion.
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
lol no, the discussion is gonna happen earlier than later since 3rd party emulating scene finally lost something they value but they don’t understand how they lost. You can bet that either there’s gonna be more dmca claims after this, or the 3rd party emulating scene needs to look for solutions and start thinking.
@rashira9610
@rashira9610 5 ай бұрын
@@livesinalazywonderland4021 Yeah you'd love that wouldn't you fanboi? Makes you feel real good because you chose a plastic box that runs it's own games like hot ass. Cry as much as you want broke ass, emulation is here to stay, clutch your switch more though, make sure Mario knows you're ready for his Italian saugage up your honey bun.
@ProjectionProjects2.7182
@ProjectionProjects2.7182 5 ай бұрын
@@livesinalazywonderland4021 What do you mean by "look for solutions" Solutions to what exactly?
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
@@ProjectionProjects2.7182 what part of it don’t you understand? It’s most likely about appeasing because it’s always gonna be dmca infringement, and because anything of a breakthrough is probably not happening, not from companies and not from home engineers.
@pvbaum1334
@pvbaum1334 5 ай бұрын
Those people committing piracy are the same people who wouldn't buy the stuff anyway, so I don't see how Nintendo was harmed by this in any way 💀 Also: 5:22 piracy isn't considered stealing, even by law (because something that can't be in someone's physical possession can't really be taken away from you, especially considering you can always just copy the game). Piracy is it's own crime, do not say it isn't, as that just makes you look dumb
@chudmonkey275
@chudmonkey275 5 ай бұрын
Bro.... you got to change the title at least. Thats just gonna make people mad.
@Romanii_
@Romanii_ 5 ай бұрын
so cringe
@FingerLickinEvilToTheBone
@FingerLickinEvilToTheBone 5 ай бұрын
I’m tired of pirates pretending like piracy is the only option to stop corrupt corporate greed. Although I understand it to some extreme, piracy can really screw devs, so i’ve seen pirates just pretend devs are lowly worms who don’t deserve respect or to be paid for their work.
@CodedKitty
@CodedKitty 5 ай бұрын
m8y, the main reason Nintendo is shitty in this situation is that if this lawsuit didn't settle out like it did, it could've set a legal precedent that would've made all emulators illegal. Emulators for new and old consoles, could easily be taken down. Luckily, it was settled before a precedent was set and only yuzu/citra were able to be taken down. And this isn't just about piracy, I personally own 2 switches, one hacked and one not, so I have options to pirate games if I choose without using yuzu. Another reason I care is that Nintendo refuses to release new hardware, but insists on releasing new games that run poorly because of the outdated hardware. In some instances, emulating results in a better experience just playing the game performance wise, whether you paid for it and dumped it yourself or not. It's true a lot of people use emulation for piracy, but when it comes to lawsuits and legal precedence situations like this, it's often an all or nothing type deal. So even if most people used emulation for piracy, that's not a good argument for why Nintendo was in the right here. This goes way back, Sony tried to sue emulator companies in the 90s, and Sony lost setting a precedent that emulators are legal, which was a huge win for game preservation, it's what has allowed the existence of all emulators. Nintendo pulling this stunt was effectively them threatening to undo that. And I'm not trying to make a legal case here, legally sure Nintendo was every bit in their right to do that, and I can see why they would be pissed when the Yuzu devs were actively updating Yuzu to work better for Tears of The Kingdom before it was even released. Despite that, still a scumbag move on Nintendo when you take into account the gravity and history of it all, and I think you'd do good to get their boot of your mouth ;).
@ProjectionProjects2.7182
@ProjectionProjects2.7182 5 ай бұрын
Well technically it would have not made ALL emulators illegal. It only would have made emulators that required decryption keys Illegal. But your point still stands.
@Loganmander
@Loganmander 5 ай бұрын
RATIO
@JD-xz1mx
@JD-xz1mx 5 ай бұрын
Only 16 year olds mad on the internet who think stealing Nintendo games is a right can simultaneously believe both 1. Nintendo shutting down Yuzu is a horrible blow to their rights and 2. Nintendo shutting down Yuzu doesn't do anything at all because more emulators will just take its place. It can't be both. Either you have no reason to be mad at Nintendo because it doesn't effect the outcome, or what Nintendo is doing will effectively stop people from pirating.
@_B_E
@_B_E 5 ай бұрын
It literally can be both lmao how do you think those two things are mutually exclusive? Just because another emulation group comes along doesn't mean it's suddenly okay for Nintendo to horribly overreach in taking down the first. Also, how are people stealing Nintendo games with an emulator? Emulators just RUN games, they have NOTHING to do with dumping carts. More idiotic rambling from people who know nothing it seems.
@ProjectionProjects2.7182
@ProjectionProjects2.7182 5 ай бұрын
OP, This makes zero sense. Why cant it be both?
@kenpanderz
@kenpanderz 5 ай бұрын
im not gonna watch the video because i already got everything needed from the first few seconds and the first few comments (plus the like to disliked bar, absolutely ratioed)
@JapaAppa
@JapaAppa 5 ай бұрын
Yes let's give more money to the 10 trillion dollar corporation, I am sure that will work out in favor of consumers!
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
Yes, I’m happy to give that one company that still maintain all of their staff while most other game companies laying them off. Support creativity
@JapaAppa
@JapaAppa 5 ай бұрын
@@livesinalazywonderland4021 not only will I never support a business or individual having over a trillion dollars. But also, you have no right to talk about the treatment of their employees considering they should be paid much better given the amount of profit they’re generating.
@JapaAppa
@JapaAppa 5 ай бұрын
@@livesinalazywonderland4021 your money doesn’t go to the employees it lines the pockets of shareholders and board members.
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
Actually, my money do go to the developers, that’s how buying works little guy.
@JapaAppa
@JapaAppa 5 ай бұрын
@@livesinalazywonderland4021 you’re acting like the devs get paid when you buy a game. That’s not how it works. They make salaries or are paid hourly. They don’t make more money just because you bought their game, the company does. You’re acting like the company is an individual. It’s not. The devs always make the same amount regardless of how well the game performs. The extra profit is then funneled back into the company or shareholders ect. Ect. And don’t make me mention the 1 million+ dollar bonuses some of these executives walk away with every single year while their employees starve and struggle to afford basic necessities.
@Fireshot844
@Fireshot844 5 ай бұрын
Your ignorance is showing
@nolifejohnson5129
@nolifejohnson5129 5 ай бұрын
They hated him he because he told the truth apparently Nintendo is worse than Hitler for wanting to protect their IPs
@_B_E
@_B_E 5 ай бұрын
Cool strawman, king. Because that's definitely why people are being critical of Nintendo.
@livesinalazywonderland4021
@livesinalazywonderland4021 5 ай бұрын
@@_B_Eclown
@salamisamwich
@salamisamwich 5 ай бұрын
when did anyone say anything about hitler
@ProjectionProjects2.7182
@ProjectionProjects2.7182 5 ай бұрын
@@salamisamwich Thats the point of @_B_E. No one did lol. (Yeah I know its stupid)
@salamisamwich
@salamisamwich 5 ай бұрын
@@ProjectionProjects2.7182 yeah equating the genocide of 6 million people to a company with bad business practices is genuinely the most idiotic thing i’ve heard in my life
@deartic1025
@deartic1025 5 ай бұрын
I can still easily pirate nintendo games 🦜
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