Nintendo's New N64 Controller For 2021 Is...

Today we are taking a look at Nintendo's newest first party controller. This is the Nintendo 64 controller recreated for the Nintendo Switch Online service to work with the newest Expansion Pack add on and I wanted to take a look at the controller and see if it's quality and if it's worth buying.
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[@Artwithbenji]

What I find a bit amusing is how everyone comments on the sameness as the original controllers. What most people don't realize is they still have the original production molds it's not hard to modify them to fit the wireless architecture. And if they are making new molds... Nintendo still owns the original plans and designs its not a huge leap for them to remanufacture them

[@aaronf4201]

Came here looking for this comment. I totally agree.

[@nil0bject]

3d scanning isn't difficult either, or just a set of calipers

[@OGK_Kash]

so you're saying nintendo continues to rip off it's consumers? wake me up in another 25yrs to see if they changed....

[@elycegrimes7205]

@@OGK_Kash how are they ripping of their consumers with these controllers? Albeit they’re doing it in other ways still, but I don’t get how it applies here

[@kleann]

fr

[@elusivelectron]

That controller still holds a special place in my heart. I still get excited every time I look at one.

[@jfiffl7]

Yea... Christmas giftwrapping 1.0.14

[@Jason75913]

I never liked it as a kid, and I sure don't like it today. I don't get how folks learn to love that unwieldy thing. Consider me spoiled by the more ergonomic SNES controller that leaves nothing outside of your reach with only one position. Now spoiled even more by the perfection that are the Microsoft controllers.

[@BareBandSubscription]

The controller and the multi-colored 3D “N” logo are visuals for immediate nostalgia.

[@captain1334]

@@BareBandSubscription try using acid to enhance the nostalgia

[@BareBandSubscription]

@@captain1334 Eh, I don’t really mess with psychedelics. My mind is far too anxious for that lol. I’m content with sober nostalgia. :)

[@vlv723]

Spawnwave’s teardowns feels like the Danny Devito meme “So anyway, I started blasting”

[@Anthonyathg-13]

🔥 comment !!

[@EZOnTheEyes]

"it's a lucky thing I had my peices" I mean, spawnwave _did_ start the video with two controllers

[@armandomorales0921]

Danny Devito!

[@DrRobotnik76]

Same thoughts lol

[@prestongower7800]

@@armandomorales0921 naw call him spawny devito lol

[@PatrickM-dm6sf]

You know we’re getting old when Jon gives the tutorial for how to hold the controller

[@armandomorales0921]

Who's Jon?

[@cpaga1020]

@@armandomorales0921 dude in the video

[@OnePunchYume]

😄

[@carlosguimaraes8160]

@@armandomorales0921 Jon mama HAHAAHHAHAAHAH

[@jemidyette]

Too bad he’s holding it wrong 😂

[@buchiklop110]

The reason Mario 64 has no Rumble is because they just used the same ROM used in the Wii and Wii U Virtual Console versions, which is based on the original US release. The 3D Mario All-Stars version used the Japanese ROM with an English translation pasted on.

[@GmNdWtchr96]

Clarification: It's based on the Shindou version, not the original Japanese release.

[@nthgth]

Wait so does that mean the BLJ is intact on the NSO expansion pack version? I understand it's missing on the 3-D All-stars version, but if it's based on the Shindou ROM that would be why.

[@GmNdWtchr96]

@@nthgth BLJ is intact in the NA NSO version, iirc.

[@ProperDev]

Ok I have a reason to get the stupid Nintendo online crap after all. Speedrunning Mario 64 on the go sounds divine.

[@GavGaming15]

I don’t know why I love the look of this controller. It’s always been my favourite controller from Nintendo. It feels so nice to hold and the design is so wacky and original.

[@nolo2gogo]

That’s exactly how I feel about Gamecube

[@quetzalty]

They put more effort into the controller than the actual service

[@OnePunchYume]

Was thinking the same thing! 😄

[@XZ-III]

I like how you guys depict nintendo as a singular person

[@quetzalty]

@@XZ-III "They: used to refer to two or more people or things previously mentioned"

[@RavenclawNimbus]

Yeah, especially when they made the GameCube online.

[@WLYLL]

@@quetzalty I think XZ III wanted to point out that different groups of people made the controller and the service

[@Tron08]

Interesting fact about the C buttons. The C in "C buttons" stood for Camera and intention was that players would control the camera with those buttons before the idea of a second analogue stick for that purpose came around. Also as it would happen most devs would just use those buttons for additional actions rather than controlling the camera.

[@nthgth]

I just figured because they already had A and B, C was logically next 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@01100101011100100111]

Sounds similar to the logic behind the shapes for the face buttons on the PS1 controller.

[@nthgth]

@@01100101011100100111 there is any?

[@alaeriia01]

@@nthgth Circle is confirm, cross is cancel, square was intended to be a sheet of paper, and triangle was intended to represent your head. Yeah, it's dumb, but that's the logic.

[@01100101011100100111]

@@nthgth If I remember correctly, they designed the buttons around common RPG controls. As @Alae riia said, O = Accept, X = Cancel, □ = Status screen or menu, △ = First person view or camera.

[@tubguinace]

Got this to use on PC and it works great, it seems that it doesn't detect the rumble motor, but it works very well on N64 emulators. Never got the switch online expansion pack and never will, too overpriced.

[@tubguinace]

@@james1639 Seems like it can only be connected via Bluetooth, windows does detect the controller when connected through USB but none of the buttons work that way.

[@Jeffmorgan83]

That's all I wanted to know. I was waiting for it to be mentioned in the video but that never happened.

[@tubguinace]

@ch282 It connects automatically every time you press any button on it, It unpairs when you press and hold the sync button

[@Jack_80]

i use an n64 emulator on my phone. i've been using a ps4 controller which is fine for most games but there are a few games that are a bit awkward with a ds4 and this controller would be nice.

[@spigknot]

does it work on emulators as good as the original console?

[@symboltherapper]

The thing that was cool about the rumble pack is it made the N64 controller heavier, so it felt even more so like holding the gun sensation, at least in Goldeneye

[@drowningin]

Ru a real life ger?

[@sileightys]

Did you know Rare originally wanted to use the rumble pak in a way where by plugging it in you would reload your weapon

[@sileightys]

Did you know Rare originally wanted to use the rumble pak in a way where by plugging it in you would reload your weapon in game

[@Jack_80]

@@sileightys that would be pretty awesome, have to unplug and replug the rumble pack to reload your weapon, but it would probably get annoying after a while. and unless you had to use 2 separate rumble packs, all you would do is barely pull it out and push it right back in, which would eliminate the point of the realistic feel they were going for.

[@symboltherapper]

@@sileightys I did not know that

[@cantstandya9749]

I gotta say there’s something very satisfying about your tear downs! I’m ready for this

[@brianstanton2721]

Yeah and he speaks really well too that does wonders for getting people to stick around haha

[@Doctors_TARDIS]

It wasn't "next generation rumble" at the time, it was just "rumble" an entirely new thing, like the thumbstick, that the N64 made mainstream.

[@KiDFINessed]

We know..

[@RadikAlice]

However, SEGA beat them to the punch on analog sticks with the 3D Controller for the Saturn

[@Doctors_TARDIS]

@@RadikAlice It was packed in as an accessory with NiGHTS when it launched in Summer of 1996, at the same time the N64 launched in Japan with it as the primary controller. The Saturn's 3D controller was made as a direct response to the Nintendo 64

[@kirin1230]

He's calling rumble a next generation thing... Not calling this a next generation type of rumble.

[@RadikAlice]

@@Doctors_TARDIS I could've sworn it was packed in with it, but wasn't sure because my memory's bad so I didn't say And that's some perspective I was missing, as I was only talking about the US side of things. But very glad you bothered to tell me, genuinely!

[@RetroGamerr1991]

That joystick is going to have the same exact issue the original had. There's a little nub that rests in a plastic bowl inside the joystick so that the spring can give it tension. That nub gets ground down into a powder especially if you play something like Smash or Mario Party. Also the black plastic levers (if you want to call them that) have slots that the joystick rests in and those will wear quickly as well causing a huge deadzone. They really should be making the internals out of delrin at this point if they want to mitigate most of these problems.

[@boltinabottle6307]

I bought a pack of replacement sticks for $10 on ebay about 15 years ago. Not hard to do and very much worth the purchase back then. Still have 2 left.

[@AndonutsJeff]

I wonder if they made it like this on purpose so these controllers will fail in the same way the old ones did with the joystick getting loose.

[@edmund8954]

From yours truly, Nintendo

[@JH-ed4mm]

@@boltinabottle6307 Replacement sticks are garbage. There are very few proper parts where you keep the original joystick controller board that will actually be good. The issue with all replacement sticks is that they are way too sensitive for good accuracy.

[@XperimentorEES]

@@AndonutsJeff If this was done back when the n64 was new I'd give them the benefit of the doubt, but given how they handled the switch failures . . . I'd bet money they kept the same faulty design to make it another physical subscription.

[@cday131]

Nintendo was focused on authenticity with this controller, yet their effort is rendered pointless by their abysmal emulation.

[@hellspinner8378]

Yeah i agree and i hope they fix the app and emulation with a update probably when the next wave of games will come to the service.

[@nestrior7733]

I am praying that they fix that. Before then, I am not even considering the upgrade. It's already overpriced, but these issues only make it worse. Also please let us customize button layouts. Some of the current ones make absolutely no sense.

[@blairlohnes8103]

Thankfully PC emulation isn't too bad these days for most games.

[@SebHighDef]

"abysmal" aka another person who just repeats what the itnernet tells them

[@Creamcups]

Thankfully it's a bluetooth controller so it works seamlesly on any emulator

[@kmilli0313]

N64 is still one of my favorite controllers. It was the perfect layout for Zelda, the c buttons and using the bow and hookshot was so easy

[@wades623]

@juliette Irene getting 1500 gerudo valley wasn't that hard

[@DoctorChained]

The N64 controller aged horribly wtf. It is absolutely inferior in every way to modern ones.. and that analog stick is horrendous

[@sorastereo7197]

sooo like... did you forget it was nintendo's first take on the 3d world? Every game they designed for it works flawlessly. No shit, play any game you choose, it controls just fine if not perfect. Meanwhile, games developed on modern hardware are shit compared to what nintendo optimized for the n64. The fuck you mean it aged horribly? You think nintendo saw into the future and knew what 3d games were gonna be like in 2023? get off your high horse. This controller is made for what?>>> the n64? CRAZY if you use it on a modern game that calls for 2 joysticks yeah it'll suck. use it for a n64 game? smooth as butter. play mario 64 with any other controller and race me, you will lose hard af

[@bowhunter6431]

​@@DoctorChainedyou don't get it dude, i pity you

[@georgezee5173]

I still love that controller. I recently visited my older brother and he had unboxed our old N64 so his kids would play with it. I almost cried when I got to hold that controller in my hands again after more than 20 years. There's something awesome about its design and, honestly, I always preferred the look and weight balance of that controller with the Rumble Pak attached to it. I would play with the Rumble Pak even in games that didn't have that functionality (like Super Mario 64).

[@flametitan100]

6:25 The reason for that is simple, if dumb: Rumble was never _released_ in the North American version of Mario 64. It was added afterwards in a Japanese only rerelease that also did things like removing backwards long jump and replacing, "so long-ay Bowser," with, "Bye-Bye." This is why the Super Mario 3D All Stars version has these changes; they used the NA script on the Japanese ROM. Likely with this version they wanted to have the localisations that actually existed at the time, so they used an NA ROM that had no rumble support.

[@OnePunchYume]

"So long, King Bowser."

[@joeltyler3427]

The Rom that's in the 3d all stars is The Shindou version. While the one is on the online version isn't.

[@vocalcalibration8033]

Like that's... neat. But also dumb.

[@flametitan100]

@@joeltyler3427 I couldn't remember the name, but yes, exactly

[@modermonkula]

I was so close to getting the expansion pack just for Starfox. Dodged a bullet there

[@derekbuckler3859]

Go look at my comment TQG, I think i pretty much summed up how a lot of people feel. Including you, personally I think microsoft gives you the best bang for your buck. I also bought my switch just before the oled model came out, honestly i wish id just gotten a series x instead. And ive been with nintendo, and sony since the very beginning. I know the industry front to back, and I don't like the direction nintendo or sony is taking in my opinion. Both of them have gotten greedy, and are using unethical business practices at best

[@meghanjames565]

Star Fox is one of the best working games on the expansion pack. I love the games and I’m glad I got it.

[@Chaoskae]

You’ll buy it eventually.

[@bland9876]

Why not just play it on your 3ds?

[@Chaoskae]

@@meghanjames565 you wasted money but hey

[@aJazzyFeel]

You have answered SO many of my questions and addressed all of my concerns in this video. Thank you very much for your thorough look at the Switch-N64 environment!

[@bodhiphermsangngam]

Are you ordering one ?

[@fsq3ify]

You're so cool Spawn wave watch every morning

[@radiantburrito]

Just like Chris Pratt.

[@utahnash]

I want this for emulation on PC. Of course what N64 games are running well on the Switch, I’ll play there, but if I just got this and paired it to the 8bitdo bluetooth receiver…

[@Eddie2P]

thats what im getting it for . screw using it for switch exclusively lmao

[@Cyborg647]

I'll probably try and use it for the 007 xbox live version lol

[@ChiruKobra]

It works with a PC via Bluetooth of of the box! I've used mine with Mupen64 and it works like a dream.

[@oblivieon1567]

@@ChiruKobra I was wondering if it worked with PC. That's awesome to hear!

[@penguinjay]

The rumble in the original n64 pak was suspended much lower, that created leverage and a greater rumble effect was achieved. If you mod a pak to run off the n64 power instead of batteries, it will shake nearly out of your hands, the heavy feedback moments are intense. It's bc the leverage. They dropped the ball w the design keeping the motor right there, they'd need a massive motor w offset weight to recreate the feeling well. Probably will last longer though so, maybe the better choice.

[@1983simi]

The original used to be the main controller of my childhood and thus to this day is what I'm most comfortable with for the mere fact that I played with it for an insane amount of hours. Very happy they apparently went ahead and used the exact same molds/patent designs. Absolutely no-brainer purchase as soon as I can get my hands on it.

[@kaennokage]

I grew up with the N64 but I've always had a soft spot for the Gamecube controllers over them - I'd be absolutely ecstatic if they brought back those games and controllers too. Though there was the new gen ones for smash ultimate it was only a limited run more as a gimmick than anything, so I don't know if it counts. That said, I'll almost definitely pick up one of these N64 ones, too.

[@lilredwagon5311]

Still have my n64 with original controllers. Parents gave me the system for Christmas 1999

[@Schwarzorn]

The version of Super Mario 64 that the Japanese got is their later version that added the voices from the English version, as well as rumble. English speakers got the only version we got back then. So no rumble, but yet "So long-a, Bowser!".

[@disgustedluigi]

Gay Bowser has returned!

[@Schwarzorn]

@@disgustedluigi It's true. I don't see how one can even complain about rumble when in exchange we get our gay boi Bowser back. XD

[@johzho123]

I actually lubed the inner parts that make contact with the plastic ring so it goes smoother, feels better than stock.

[@duncanself5111]

🔥

[@ryancurtis1996]

What did you use as lubricant?

[@number1ratedsalesman_1997]

@@ryancurtis1996 [[Lube]]

[@johzho123]

@@ryancurtis1996 Krytox GPL-205 keyboard switch lubricant

[@SteelSkin667]

It might be worth lubing up the gears inside the controller to limit wear over time. It doesn't look like it comes with any kind of lubrication from the factory.

[@nuclearbeeberman]

I think the new N64 Pad feels really great. like a high quality gamepad. time will tell if it holds up better than the original.

[@DeCaYsF]

Well all 4 of my originals still work over 20 years later..

[@MAKESZENZE]

@@DeCaYsF I guess you don't play mario party that often😅😂

[@RedMage8BT]

If they made a translucent one I'd buy it in a heartbeat

[@nostromocult1280]

This is sold out every time I check, I want it so much.

[@zgoaty9235]

Nintendo has stated on the product page that there won’t be anymore restocks until the beginning of 2022 so anyone looking to get it (myself included) are SoL unless people want to pay scalper prices (and even then there’s no guarantee it will be the actual controller depending on who you buy from). I will say though, that the PowerA GC style controllers are a nice alternative and work flawlessly. Reaching down for the C-Stick can be a stretch but it functions like the C-Buttons would.

[@landscapingspecialist]

With that amount of input lag you could essentially use your old n64 controller to play. Press the button you want on it, set it down, proceed to press the corresponding button on your joycon. Voila! Same as what you’d get here.

[@ivan.guitaraaa1903]

How much is it?

[@zgoaty9235]

@@ivan.guitaraaa1903 The PowerA GC style controllers, for wired versions are $25 or 30 US, and the wireless versions are $50. Neither controller has rumble, and only the wireless version has motion controls.

[@megamix5403]

@@zgoaty9235 I'd say the Tribute is a better alternative because y'know, it's actually based on the N64 Control scheme?

[@speedwaynutt]

Why do I feel like I am one of the few who likes the Nintendo 64 controller design.

[@xerotolerant]

It has its shortcomings but i also like it

[@tyraelhermosa]

It's a unique one for sure. I think it looks cool.

[@jorochimaru]

It's all nostalgia

[@Awnos]

I find it very comfortable, I love it.

[@flametitan100]

Once you know how it's supposed to *work,* it's a pretty solid design for a mono stick controller.

[@faerieknight2298]

I just got my NSO N64 controller last month (finally). And it's very nice, but I kept wondering "Is this smaller then the original controller? It feels cramped to hold." Watching this video assures me the NSO controller is the same size, so maybe my hands are just chunkier then back in the day (early 20's for me).

[@bowhunter6431]

Finally got mine last week after being sold out for the last four years in Australia Had some tears in my eyes l.

[@PerfectDarkcontrol]

I can't believe this, it's over 20 years since I played StarFox (in my country called Lylatwars), but as soon as the bomb spawned in one of the stone arcs on the water, I wanted to press the left c-button and the stick down. I played this game so much that even after 20 years the muscle memory is still there and I was 7 when I was playing this :D Thanks for the nostalgia, as soon as I get the news that the lag with OoT and SM64 is corrected, I also will get this.

[@jak3w]

I've never heard of the country Lylatwars, it sounds like a beautiful place

[@PerfectDarkcontrol]

​@@jak3w Yeah, it is quite beautiful with areas like Corneria, Fichina, Aquas, ... we even have a asteroid belt. Only somebody named Andross makes sometimes problems :D (I didn't remember any of these names and need to look them up^^) B2t, yeah, english is not my native language, so what I write is occasionally quite strange (I hope it's only sometimes and not most of the time^^)

[@nthgth]

@@PerfectDarkcontrol Your English is fine, that was just a bit of ambiguous syntax and native English speakers do it all the time (it probably happens in every language). Usually, context allows the true meaning to be clear anyway, like it was here

[@Jackbyrne77]

Is there any surprise that Nintendo knows how to make an exact replica of its own controller??🤨🤨

[@number1ratedsalesman_1997]

(considering they don't hold it right, yes)

[@Dargonhuman]

About as surprising as the McRib tasting the exact same way every year...

[@Evan-Fisherton]

You never opened the OLED dock. If I remember right it was what you wanted to do first

[@borisdg]

His OLED teardown was disappointing in general.

[@everythingpony]

@@borisdg no yours was

[@borisdg]

@@everythingpony I never did such lol

[@themailman3331]

@@borisdg that’s the sound of sarcasm going right over your head

[@borisdg]

@@themailman3331 no :(

[@syrkyt37]

Great video as always 📹 Tip: The black bar and button text can be removed at the bottom of the screen simply by going to settings and unchecking "show controls in game", works for N64,Snes,Nes,Genesis. 👍 🎮 😀

[@xxnike0629xx]

The real question is if the analog will wear down easily and get clogged with plastic dust.

[@hajilee4539]

It looks pretty much identical to the original design. Probably will scuff up like the original ones.

[@tylerdean980]

We have the advantage of hindsight. Put graphite in it.

[@backup_account_1]

Completely innovative, revolutionary and avant-garde in its time. Ergonomic and functionally superior to all consoles of its generation, and I dare say that to this day I have not tried a more comfortable controller. I've tried modern redesigns and the original model is still the best choice for N64 gaming. I remember what I felt the first time I had it in my hands, at that precise moment N64 became my favorite console of all time, partly because of the gems in its catalog, of course, but also because of its incredible controller.

[@rgerber]

People think the controller is weird with its shape. I love it, it feels so good to hold it. The way the weight is distributed, the midle being slightly thicker where the Z--button resides Its a very long time since i held one...

[@josearturofloresbuenfil9057]

Doesn't matter how old you are, when you grab something and you feel like a child again, that is happiness. 🥰🥰

[@GAMECUBian]

^^

[@fredtaylor9792]

That controller puts one thing in my head.... fun. You're about to have fun. It was made to have fun and no matter what bad is going on in the world, that controller is guaranteed to help you escape it.

[@asianime12]

I loved this controller when it first came out. I enjoyed the system as a whole.

[@NintendoFan907]

The Nintendo Switch Online controller for N64 is more of a novelty item but it is still pretty cool if you want to have an authentic experience without using old technology. I never grew up in that era but it is cool to play the classics with the og controllers

[@tool420down9]

One of my biggest complaints in gaming is when input lag is present. It makes it so uncomfortable to play imo. I haven't purchased the expansion pack because of this

[@Cynim]

I hear you! However, the input lag on N64 games doesn't bother me as much, even today. And yes, OoT has that, but surprisingly, it doesn't bring the experience down, for me. Maybe I have some form of subconscious "nostalgia" for lag on N64 games, since I grew up with them...!

[@sometf2player752]

I didn’t even notice the input lag to be honest

[@BedsideTechSupport]

8:00 You can also use X or Y for boost, brake, somersaulting, and U turning. I'll put it here: X: ⬇C Y: ⬅C

[@TheGamingChad.]

i always very appreciate when a company brings back/recreates something from the past and brings it back to life. I bought one simply for the sake of it, not planning on using it.

[@blakemichael1105]

I dont know where i can buy one ive looked everywhere

[@tgamer9159]

The fact that they took the time to remaster and upscale Super Mario Sunshine in 3d All Stars and not give the same treatment to Super Mario 64 just boggles my mind

[@Stephan5916]

@tgamer Nintendo gotta Nintendo.

[@willsxx1]

Literally no one except Spawn Wave was “blown away” by the N64 controller…

[@reiddutchess9955]

It's honestly awesome. It feels so great holding a fresh, Nintendo branded controller for N64. I am so happy with this product, although the expansion pack has a way to go with the game selection.

[@jynxce]

@@reiddutchess9955 Seems like you're more in love with the brand and somewhat enslaved to your childhood nostalgia than anything. It's just some molded plastic. Each their own, I guess.

[@reiddutchess9955]

@@jynxce it’s just a product that they made well 😂 that was a very condescending interpretation.

[@Khross30]

Latency feels a lot better for me when connected to the dock via USB and then turning on USB communication under Controller Settings in the main Settings app

[@ivanbradley-reeder1240]

I love the n64 controller. There’s ways to convert the analog stick to a game cube analog. The n64 analog stick always wore out. You could also open it up and put tape on the analog stick once it was worn to bring some life back

[@tominator23]

i converted 3 og n64 controllers to the gamecube style stick. Such a huge improvement and very easy to do. The original sticks are the worst, they are impossible to keep from being floppy.

[@BlackEpyon]

@@tominator23 I assume there's some extra circuitry required to do that? I bought some 3rd part sticks from Amazon, hoping to repair my original controllers, but the new sticks use potentiometers, and I have no reason to assume that they would be compatible with the signal inputs from the original optical encoders.

[@IncredibleMrZ]

It's probably already in here somewhere but the joystick is completely different mechanical technology from the OG N64 controller and is pretty standard by today's metrics. I wouldn't expect any mechanical failures from it over what any other controller is going to suffer from. The OG tech was a pin in a groove that slid in an arch. Lots of friction and any debree got turned in to grinding powder that made the slot bigger and bigger. I would not be surprised at all if the new controller could be used for a direct replacement in an OG controller, just with a plug swap. They're all potentiometers anyway.

[@iwasadeum]

Looking forward (hopefully) to all the various colors. As a kid in a lower-middle-class family, we were basically stuck with the plain black console and grey controller. I always wanted one of the yellow controllers. Adult me can splurge lol

[@VanWolffOfficial]

It’s December 2023, if you are still looking for N64 switch controllers. They’re back on the Nintendo shop! Make sure you have a switch online account so you can buy them

[@MrAdam802]

I'm good with my Brawler 64 and Everdrive.

[@ChrisBurnes]

Don't forget an UltraHDMI. (Or that new HDMI mod)

[@jjlnguess7354]

Know how I felt back in the day when I got my N64 with its controller as a teenager? Got used to it and had fun playing games. It really wasn’t that bad of a controller.

[@SilverDusk1]

It was my very first controller, so I didn't know any better at the time. I can play all of the other systems' classic games with any other controller, but N64 games just feel wrong without its controller.

[@gargonovich]

I think the weirdest part of these new Expansion Pack controllers is that they did the 3-Button Genesis controllers instead of the 6-Button. The 3-Button Genesis pad is... not so good. 6-Button's pretty good, though.

[@nathansstuff1547]

Think the 6 button was released for Switch Online in Japan. I also got the Switch Online Mega Drive controller, think it's better than the original.

[@alexdeadeye6905]

if i't take a sip of a drink each time he says "obviously" i'd be pissed drunk before the end of the video

[@Schwarzorn]

Nintendo showed up with this weird thing called the CONTROL STICK (matching their other creation: the Control Pad.). "Analog Stick" is Sony's name for it. "Analog Thumb Pad" is Sega's name for it. "Thumbstick" is Microsoft's name for it.

[@LordJazzly]

Ok, I’m glad he did the test with an actual 64 while talking about input lag, because I definitely remember some games on that being slightly less responsive than you might ideally like them to be.

[@heydavedawson]

I’ve had my Nintendo 64 over 20 years. Works just as good as the day we got it. The problems with these new ports and crappy lag inputs make me laugh. Nothin beats the classics; always replicated, but never duplicated.

[@penguinjay]

I'm impressed they didn't just take their sticks to full digital. Those analog gears spinning make me happy. Hopefully they've made good changes w the bowl design and stick material to improve longevity.

[@meghanjames565]

Great review. I was lucky to get the n64 new controller on the 2nd release. I got the expansion pack the first day as I was looking forward to Mario Tennis on N64 with the new controller which works really well with the games. I put a switch skull & co. thumb stick cover on the analog stick and it made all the different. Now the analog stick is easy to use. I saw Bob’s review and his analog stick repair, I think he had to use his sauter gun, lol. He is a techi and I’m not. I wouldn’t dare open a controller as I’m sure something would go wrong when I’m putting back together.

[@g10118]

solder* gun

[@everythingpony]

There hasent been a 2nd release, we are still waiting

[@BlackEpyon]

I cringe at the thought of using a solder gun for delicate work like that. That's what soldering irons are for.

[@harrisonwhaley7872]

The rumble motor in this controller is sexy. When it connects to the system it practically purrs with how the motor sounds

[@1VideoGameDude]

I have to say Mario 64 feels great with this controller. For me nothing but this controller feels natural with that game

[@foodhatesme]

It's a sin to use any other controller

[@Vamptonius]

When I swapped out my OG sticks for GameCube ones a couple of years ago, I also got a USB adaptor for two controllers so I use them on my PC.

[@corey8748]

Nintendos business model should be "Nintendo supporting the scalping market one piece at a time."

[@scarffoxandfriends9401]

🤷‍♂️ This is the only electronic product that limits the sales of users to help mitigate scalping. Even more so than the PS5/Switch raffle systems. Omg, Nintendo and Sony put aside a couple thousand consoles in specific regions, that will certainly stop the scalping of a product they produce in the millions.

[@grimmako4879]

I was born in 98 have never even played a N64 before their controllers are definitely out of this world as far as looks

[@berzerkerdav]

"there's three prongs but you only have 2 hands so how are you supposed to hold it ..." oh! oh my! so i wasn't supposed to be using the analog stick like THAT huh?

[@JOHNNYCHICAGO8]

Nintendo is bringing back old School game's ❤

[@tobiwonkanogy2975]

this actually looks like a a quality recreation ., hopefully more mods of these old controller will come out . modernized for new features.

[@HollowRick]

Check out steel sticks for the n64 controller

[@Soulrollsdeep]

The N64 pad was the absolute best in the world at the time, it was perfect

[@dot-bob]

I don't think Nintendo was worried about durability of the analog stick on the new N64 online controllers as it shouldn't see as much use as it isn't meant to be the primary controller of the system. They were more concerned about recreating the original experience. It really shows how far they have come since then.

[@brian576]

As someone who doesn't play online and just wants to play ocarina of time, majora's mask, and maybe Star Fox...I wish they just bundled this controller with a one time purchase of the N64 expansion pack instead of the subscription model they're currently using.

[@Outsider_aa]

Does the analog stick look more durable than those in the original N64 controllers? That's my only concern. Well, the video addressed my question anyway, we'll probably need to have replacement parts available.

[@DCFatCat]

Look more durable, no. Feels more durable, yes. The stick isn't entirely loose like the original, but watch Wulff Dens video as he goes into the stick module.

[@billygilmusic5072]

someone opened the controller and found out the analog stick is actually worse than the original one. Look it up

[@jaylucien669]

I never had durability problems with my old N64 analog sticks. The question for me with these new ones is if they're doomed to drift down the line? I'm going to wait and see. If they are, then they're a complete waste of money. I don't care if Nintendo is willing to fix them for free.

[@buchiklop110]

@@jaylucien669 Every analog stick is prone to drift. It's not a problem invented by the JoyCons. There are PS5 and XBox Series controllers that have experienced drift months after release.

[@OnePunchYume]

@@buchiklop110 I've played a lot of video games in my life and every controller I have owned never had drift until I got the Nintendo Switch. Call it luck or I was just that great of an owner.

[@SirJamesIGamerfuzion]

Missed part on Nintendo for not doing something where the Rumble pack would be even just adding say a sticker would of been neat

[@duncanself5111]

I'll always love the N64 and its controller, it was my first console

[@JonO387]

I loved this controller back in the day. I never held it by the "middle handle". I held it on both sides and reached my thumb over to the stick.

[@snake098765]

If my memory serves me correctly, Mario 64 didn't have rumble support on the original N64. I don't think Killer Instinct Gold did either.

[@SebHighDef]

there was a later released version in japan that did

[@buchiklop110]

Japan had re-releases of early N64 games with added Rumble support. That version was used for Mario 64 in 3D All-Stars.

[@snake098765]

Ohh, I never knew that till now. That's what he meant in the video.

[@snake098765]

Ohh, I didn't know. That's what he meant in the video.

[@DoWnSloTHen]

Rumble didn't come out until Starfox. That's why Mario didn't have rumble. Pretty nostalgically and applicatoraly accurate.

[@paulaclark2101]

I’m going to take a guess before I watch this. He’s going to put on a confused face like he has seen or felt an N64 controller before. Claim that it’s weird/strange. Ponder the analog stick then conclude that it’s just the same N64 controller but wireless

[@kuricosmos]

Having never owned an N64 personally (My Mom got me a PlayStation), I really wanted to get this controller just to experience having my own of this.

[@Evixyn]

This is the video I had been waiting for and I can see the slight changes with the two side by side. Thanks spawn wave, as I do enjoy these tare down videos 0/

[@patriot3431]

I am curious if the analog stick could survive Mario Party 1 tug o war. My nephew went through a lot of replacement sticks because of that game.

[@danieldavis2055]

So interesting that Nintendo kept in the old, somewhat fragile digital wheels for the stick rather than go with a more modern internal design. That's dedication!

[@WillEnj0y]

Or they had a warehouse full of old n64 parts haha

[@G-Mastah-Fash]

That's a rip off because that shit is going to break within 5 years just like it did back when the N64 originally came out.

[@BlackEpyon]

So long as I can get parts for it.

[@1008md]

The N64 looks way more complicated than it was. It’s basically a SEGA Saturn style 6 button controller. Instead of ABC and XYZ they did some stupid shit with C.

[@lor8262]

I play slot of N64 games on my laptop and I use a Xbox one controller. I would love to get my hands one of these to not have to make akward remaps for every game

[@nthgth]

Same. And there's just no excuse for how bad the D pad is on the X1 controller

[@samk8005]

Hey, just wanted to say it's been a while since I've been on your channel, and you're looking great. You look thinner and more jacked than last time. Congrats!

[@BigZay2397]

I almost threw up when I saw the input lag for OoT. To see that amount of input lag for my favorite game game of all time and that I have put many hours into makes me sick. It's almost unplayable! I'm only upset because this is one of Nintendo's flagship games on their best console with an official controller that they made. Taking that into consideration, you would expect the quality to be so much higher.

[@heavyhittersirl]

So when do we get the Atomic Purple/Green mod?

[@meghanjames565]

I definitely wanted a different color but I got the beige/grey one. It works great and your patience will hopefully pay off and they will come out with more colors for the controllers.

[@heavyhittersirl]

@@meghanjames565 i reget letting go of all my old hardware !Sadge 😥

[@crazy_indian3921]

The design of the controller made sense if you played Golden Eye in its intended play style. It was designed for two controllers, you'd have to try it to understand

[@flametitan100]

Didn't goldeneye also have a mode where you used the Stick and D pad, so your left hand was on the D-pad and the Right was on the Stick? I know a rare few games did that, but I don't remember which.

[@Teddingtin]

I wish they were wired liked the gamecube controllers they released so you could use them on original hardware.

[@mattholt5063]

It would be awesome if 8bitdo or similar made a device to get them to work on the original 64. A brand new, and wireless 64 controller, for an original 64. Yes please.

[@thefreshvince879]

there was the retro bit, not avalibe anymore tho

If all the parts inside the stick are plastic there is a lot of chance that someone make a plain print for 3D printers for the community.

[@kmjsuperfly1]

Have you tried it on PC? Specifically Retroarch?

[@CrushedParagon]

I managed to get it working well in Retroarch

[@Jupsi]

Not Retroarch, but I use mine daily on the pc. P64, VBA, etc. As long as you connect it through Bluetooth there're no problems out of the box, but if you connect through USB it won't register.

[@comicsmisexplained]

🐸: “For the love of god someone help me!” 🐰: “Do a barrel roll!” 🐦: “YOU F*CKING PIECE OF SH*T, DON’T TALK TO ME.”

[@jaystapes3086]

I mainly use this controller for mario party superstars

[@Mistah47]

Orders a sex robot. 9:35 “Now that we’ve had a chance to try the machine, let us open it up and take a look inside.” 😭😭💀

[@IIG]

The N64 controller is my all time favorite. I never understood the criticism, it is ingenious. Give me Doom 64 with that new controller and I'm set.

[@badwrongfun5541]

It's mostly hated because it doesn't confirm to the modern idea of a controller, which is really unfair to the N64. It works perfectly well for the actual games on the system.

[@TheWookiee1977]

This controller is almost absolutely necessary in order to play the N64 games on Switch. The joycons and pro controller just doesn't quite work like they should.

[@cfreddykrueger9164]

I was never lucky enough to get the ultral hdmi mod or the lasted hdmi mod. I went with Voultars RBG mod plus the Rad 2x and have been very happy with the results for over a year now.

[@Kenpachi-q3q]

Facts, I got the di-blur with voultars rgb. Almost looks like a ps1.

[@ZaKKsQuaTcH1]

I got hand cramps watching this video

[@blairlohnes8103]

As a bonus, these work with PC emulation.

[@XZ-III]

um... that's a big duh, but ok

[@blairlohnes8103]

@@XZ-III GFYS