This Controller Could Change Mobile Gaming

[@HiTechLoLife]

The children yearn for the Xperia Play. Like it's insane how long it took for this style of controller to come back to us. Like all of the companies out there making mobile controllers and not ONE of them thought about making it like this instead of using a telescopic design?

[@Nateanderthal]

I had an Xperia Play for about 5 years and I loved that thing, for emulation and for all the official Sony PS1 games that were on their store.

[@ccricers]

GPD Win 4 and Ayaneo slide basically but we could use one that has a modern-ish ARM chip

[@MMPK]

I really wish Sony would make an Xperia play 2. Still have my original one

[@Game4Lord]

⁠@@ccricersGPD and AyaNeo's stuff is insanely expensive. I don't disagree with you though.

[@someryebread]

It bums me out that Razer left the phone market because there was market for another Xperia Play style device. Also just wish Sony would make a PlayStation phone like the Play again.

[@Hxlst]

Glad Josh is finally getting recognized for this brilliant idea

[@rafauwaxc2871]

I know bro! I watched his video about it like a month ago

[@JulianLeonBaroi]

Thanks to Russ Brother. RGC! RGC! RGC! 🥳 Love from Bangladesh ❤🇧🇩

[@razumskiy]

he took a switch controller from Amazon and swapped the housing 😂😂😂 brilliant way to get sued 😂😂😂

[@TheClassicalFatCat]

FR!! I've always wanted a controller like the one he made I always had the idea of useing the 3ds joysticks for a compact controller. Just didn't have the electricronic skills

[@bananachild1936]

I saw the video from that kid who's making this controller a few months ago. This type of controller has been my dream concept for mobile phones since the Xperia Play. Unfortunately (so far at least) the one shown in the video is strictly exclusive to iPhones. Hopefully in the near future there is a "universal fit" made for Android phones as well.

[@Jokerwolf666]

Now that iPhone uses usb-c it's a definite possibility.

[@rauljimenez414]

​@Jokerwolf666 That's not the issue. The charger has nothing to do with this controller. The issue is the camera placement. For iPhone, it's kinda easy to make 3 or 4 different backplates to fit in. But on android it's wild how many different approaches there are. Anyway, in is web he said he's looking into it. So there's hope for a universal fit

[@MrEscape314]

I thought they were referring to it being a hard connection vs Bluetooth. This would let you have less latency and potentially charge thru with one cord.

[@o0kaelas]

It's based on magsafe, you can just use aby magsafe case or magnet to attach an android phone.

[@Raderade1-pt3om]

It's quite universal, all u need magsafe case

[@Jokerwolf666]

Be careful about showing that Mario star in your video, Nintendo might have a hissy fit.

[@ozfeldi]

What do you mean by that copy right ?

[@urielr6285]

Thanks for bringing it up, now they know easier and can just watch waiting for that spot. Genius!

[@albertxion513]

​@@urielr6285 You really think they didn't know about that already?

[@8bitchiptune420]

​@@urielr6285 Do you think Nintendo reads the comments instead of watching the video themselves?

[@MrEscape314]

How about that NES-001 over his other shoulder?

[@daserfomalhaut9809]

I never understood why Sony was the only company to have a phone actually *built* like this instead of being an add on. And then no one ever did it again.

[@BramstukerScott-mb8kv]

Sony owns the patents. This isn’t some groundbreaking new idea here, you just can’t outright copy an idea like this. I’m guessing its patents are directly related to gaming devices, particularly in regards to controller types. Since lots of phones have sliding interfaces.

[@giogio182]

Punk rock band -> Military -> KZbin Retrogaming What a life path! 😄

[@frosted_cupkate]

The formfactor is really cool, but I think the main kicker is the fact that it's more or less specific to a particular handset. If you own that handset then great, but otherwise you're left out. I imagine it's probably why existing companies haven't tried it, because it either severely limits your target audience (on something already pretty niche), or greatly increases your manufacturing costs to produce different variations. The current telescoping ones might be cumbersome by comparison, but are generally one size fits all.

yeah this idea works better for iphones because they all are physically the same but android users are probably the ones that consume this type of idea more

[@short_yeti2058]

If the phone mount stays a detachable piece I can see manufacturing only that part in different sizes. Or if it stays one piece a more generic tip mount with a form fitting insert. I could also see it going phone agnostic and being flat with the magnets totally. Two nubs on the bottom corners to help keep it in place and be done.

[@frosted_cupkate]

@@short_yeti2058 If it's flat, phones' camera bezels will collide with it, so I think it needs something adjustable/swappable to accommodate differing bezels. Otherwise you're going to have to add a case to your phone to level it off, which then adds to the weight/thickness of your phone 24/7. As for corner nubs, I'm not 100% sure how you'd mean them to be implemented, but there's a large variety in handset widths too, which means that any corners would need to be adjustable.

[@SM-hn9hu]

OMG, the Sony Ericsson Xperia Play PTSD just kicked in…

[@novelezra]

I love that's it's basically using the VITA analog sticks - as someone very much vitapilled, this makes me very happy. Also nice Belle and Sebastian shirt.

[@dstarr3]

"Vita" means "life," you know

[@BxB510]

It frustrates me that we got rid of slide phones for this exact reason. When the first line of Galaxy phones came out, each carrier had their own special variant and I had Sprint's because they had the "Epic Slide 4G" that phone made as much of an impact on me in regards to emulation as much as the PSP did... Bring back physical keyboards!

[@Doubleedgedpersona]

Awesome concept and its great to see some recognition for this project from the GOAT of handheld gaming

[@Diosky27]

This is the exact format I have been waiting for! God I hope they nail it in the final version

[@ManoOresto]

FINALLY this gets more attention! When I saw the video from Josh, I was blown away for the same reason Russ mentioned: It takes a young lad to realize something, all the other companies don't even try. Wishig Josh all the best with his project!

[@user.asleep]

Suggestions: -Slim stacked shoulder buttons -Finger rubber grips on the back -Magnets slides from the back (between the shoulders buttons) and has a hinge with snap tilting

[@iTheBeep]

My main concern as a PSVita owner who finds this controller interesting, is that I hope that if they stick to Vita sticks, that they use the Vita 1000's hall effect sticks instead of the 2000's. The 1000's sticks are less likely to have drift.

[@NetflixForeign]

Wow just one more thing that was better on the original Vita versus the successor. So dumb Sony ditched the OLED.

[@Lipefipegamer]

beep spotted in the wild

[@b4g4b3l]

like 3 days ago was thinking "why companies dont make phone controllers smaller, so you could carry them in vacations?" was thinking more of something like the x1 mini has, that could be attached to right and left of the phone, and when not used to be joined... nice job 20 year old kid :D

[@bulletpunch9317]

Thats the razer junglecat

[@stlwill]

Hey Russ, another great video. To shave down some of the thickness, I hope they consider thumb stick sliders instead of the joystick-style design (not sure what to call that). Also, after Nintendo’s shenanigans, I’ve been really happy to see how the community of creators have rallied behind you and put a spotlight on the injustice. I know I’m not alone in thinking there should be a “keeping Nintendo honest” fund that creators can use when they need to make a case for fair use. Let’s get a GoFundMe set up!

[@BradAwesomeness]

Yesssss!!! Give M-Con as much spotlight as possible. Been following the M-Con project since his first video over it dropped. I hope they get a polished product offering and keep moving forward -- I'm ready to drop money on it for sure.

[@Mexicutioner0516]

DUDE YES. I have been saying we need a sliding case with a controller for YEARS. This is awesome!

[@yokayoksven]

I wanted something like this for years. I think many people did. It's crazy nobody made it up until this point. Props to Josh and good luck with the kickstarter.

[@colorfulshoes]

So glad to see M-Con getting this publicity! Thanks for giving Josh a bump, Russ!

[@eternalprogression]

Just finished watching this video abt 10 times😂 Russ thank you so much for the video! It was absolutely incredible! I’ve been watching forever and it was insane to see that controller I’ve probably spent thousands of hours hand crafting on your desk. I cannot wait for the future of this thing!!!!

[@CHiTO316]

Been filling this guy and his prototype ever since he announced it. I can’t wait for the final product

[@cloudycolacorp]

flling him, what with? 😳

[@TheLexikitty]

I want a keyboard version of this so bad.

[@ChoogyYT]

Need this for the iPhone 14, such a cool idea, I remember when Josh uploaded his first video showcasing it and being blown away.

[@short_yeti2058]

The two phone comparison segment just made me think of carrying a phone and Gameboy. Or phone and other pocket emulator device for more modern users. It fits a nice use case for bridging the gap between two devices in one package, both size and cost. Very cool stuff.

[@Jonolson38]

I love that Josh sent you this and that you shared your impressions. I saw his video a few months ago and was blown away by his innovative thinking behind this mobile solution that so many of us would love. Very excited to see where it goes and wish that dude all the luck in the world.

[@VectorNinja1]

I remember watching a video by the creator of this from a KZbin recommendation. I'm glad to see it getting traction and recognition. I want one of these for the google Pixel that would change the game for me

[@Nolrath]

“So without any further delay- ad break-“ lol! The timing on that was so funny!

[@JamesTechJackin]

I'm super interested in this. I've been following his journey for a minute, I'm so glad that he linked up with you. So dang proud of Josh!! I can't wait for it to drop. Def day one purchase!!

[@kableguy8975]

I can get behind this! I'm even alright with the thickness, but thinner is better if possible.

[@m_nikitin]

Oh yeah! I’ve been waiting for updates on these project 🤝

[@gaborojasjalil]

Excellent idea, and the prototype is exciting. Very impressed by the inventor 👏👏👏

[@misterbennnn]

"I was playing in punk bands, not doing anything cool" Russ, come on man, give yourself some credit.

[@Mr-Gamer-W]

I think the creator announcing it this far from launch is a mistake. There is a good chance another company will use his idea before his even releases.

[@IAmTheGlovenor]

I mean, it's already taking Sony's general idea

[@Mr-Gamer-W]

@@IAmTheGlovenor On a surface level yes, but Josh turned that idea into a viable modern product. He essentially did all the R&D for any potential copycats. Now all they have to do is reverse engineer his design and 3D print it.

[@0oSiLveRo0]

There were other cases like this, there's a ton of 3d models available online.

[@Raderade1-pt3om]

Yeah but he patented it i guess, better thing for him would be to get in partnership with companies with expertise in field

[@0oSiLveRo0]

@@Mr-Gamer-W china don't respect no patents, neither do I to be fair

[@Robbie24-g5d]

Without further delay. Ad. Fucking KZbin got jokes now

[@naifbashin3099]

idea: for table mode, they should add some grip attachments to the controller either making them or recommending 3rd party grip attachments.

[@DoinIT4HARAMBE]

This is FREAKING SICK. Josh is doing some great work and I can’t wait to order mine.

[@TheTheShizzler]

No way!! I remember his video showing his first one! That's awesome that he built more! Wish him all the best!

[@CellPhish]

I’ve been following this since the beginning. I’m super hyped to see this workout

[@Bozomine]

this is my comfort channel. I just enjoy the vibes and barely get into retro gaming, but Ive probably watched 5+ videos. Enduring entertainment from a kind and welcoming personality.

[@WulfilaBelmont]

Nice to see others getting prototypes to review. I'm hoping for an android version at some point.

[@ryansmith2493]

Thank you for brining this to light and more importantly supporting such an innovative idea from an individual Russ.

[@Brunoxid0]

This is the beginning of a long friendship!

[@Butrdtostngravy]

I watched their video several months ago talking about their controller! I'm SO glad they were able to get into your hands!

[@yochrisnelson]

IT’S HAPPENINGGGGG I was blown away by the initial concept video and the fact that there’s such a promising prototype made my day

[@rottenpotato2]

the thing I like about this controller is that unlike most of those on the market it allows me to use the USB C input, which means that I can connect it to the computer (with a mini HDMI to USB C adapter) and use it as a screen for my PC without lag/latency problems that I would have using Moonlight/Steamlink, then I can connect headphones while playing, or maybe keep it charged, again thanks to that usable USB C input, furthermore it seems comfortable and compact (even if I don't love the positioning of the l1/l2 and r1/r2 keys horizontally...I prefer them vertically)

[@WitheredSpirit]

If they can stick some more battery into the controller and added wireless charging to it through magnetic contact points (to keep the ability so you can snap it off) it'd be more justified to carry it around as a battery bank as well.

[@Nathan-jq2xh]

Never been here when a video of his is posted so quickly. Keep up the great work!

[@JS-sv4ol]

Not quite related but wondering how you manage game time with your family? Would love something a bit less oriented towards devices and hear how you introduce gaming to your children, manage your playtime/set a healthy example, and in general a bit more on how you got the business started. (If you’ve answered all of this already would love to know which video!)

[@saiyanprime]

I'm hoping the final product is thinner. That's what's going to make this device desirable or not. I've been watching this for a couple months and I'm definitely excited for the Kickstarter to launch and we get a look at the final product.

[@angelopanzera3946]

great in theory, but in practice any thinner may further limit/compromise the joysticks (like the Retroid Pocket flip) and make it harder to grip. i'm not saying i don't agree just that i don't know how feasable it is, Russ already noted its top heavy which will only become more of an issue the thinner/lighter/harder to grip it is.

[@hyperhexjoe]

@@angelopanzera3946that and it may mess up the weight distribution and make a good grip near-impossible.

[@sazhenmari]

just dont make it thinner than the phone itself otherwise it wouldn't be comfortable

[@saiyanprime]

@@angelopanzera3946 yeah, you could be right. The thickness it's at now may be with the final product is. It seems a little bulky, but it doesn't mean I'm not interested in it. I think this would be a cool accessory to have especially since it's swappable to different phones. The guy was on Reddit yesterday and he said in a comment that he plans on having interchangeable connection plates so you could buy different backs if you get a different phone but use the same controller.

[@ccricers]

@@angelopanzera3946 Xperia Play and PSP Go could be used as references. The Go is 17mm thick when it is closed, so that should make the buttons area around 10mm or so thick. The thumbsticks might be a problem though. They don't look as low profile as the nub that was used on the PSP

[@jreddtrex1618]

What a cool idea! If it can be perfected the potential is incredible. Cheers to this guy for coming up with it, and yourself for making the video to get his idea on more eyes. I love this channel dude.

[@VitorMach]

Yes it's thicc, but it's an early prototype so it can probably be optimized further. Amazing project and I wish all the best for this guy!

[@wolfwangdelosmonteros7134]

I don't know how further can you go in that aspect, because a really thin controller it's very uncomfortable. Maybe that's the best it can be.

[@Loser-io8mx]

If after finishing this version he made a second version that can slide and then have a hinge and work like a clamshell would be crazy

[@areyoumypal]

Hey already on the wait list for this. Neat to see you get hands on.

[@Spongegoose]

This is seriously excellent, I remember seeing the early prototype show up on my KZbin feed. I still want to start seeing Anbernic, GPD, and others making phones with slider controls but this will help quench my thirst (When/if this comes out).

[@_xWinter]

I watched his video the day after he posted it. I knew this was gonna go places. Hope it progresses even further

[@HighGardenMarlon]

Dude! I freakin love how you sneak your personal life into the videos. Feel nice that you’re, you know… human. Punk Rock band!!? Dropped out of community college! I’m listening!

[@hatschi2935]

I would love this. Please also an option with XBOX Layout. Would be so perfect with a RedMagic Phone, you basically have a console that you have on you anyways, then it needs a button to launch Beacon or Daijisho, and when you use it regularly just use regular android.

[@Jeyxero]

Personally I’d space the joysticks a little more wider for comfort since in the video it seemed you were stretching a little to play but that’s imo. Glad this controller is getting the exposure it needs ever since finding out about it. Can’t wait for it to be released!

[@michaelwolfe3319]

Been on this waitlist so excited !

[@markwillitts3002]

I’ve been following this since I saw it on Reddit earlier in the year. I hope this makes Josh a lot of money!

[@JoeHoddinott]

I'm very happy to see you review the M-con prototype. Josh is getting my money for this. Excellent ingenuity. He deserves the flood of attention RGC will give him.

[@Sagenarf6227]

Man I’ve been following this guy for a while now and this is awesome

[@stevenpsherwood]

Oh man - this looks cool. A clamshell version, or at least a hinge on the phone union would also be awesome.

[@TheHandsomeGod_]

I’ve been waiting for Russ to finally get his hands on and review Josh’s prototype controller. If I wasn’t already excited before, my reinvigorated excitement is DEFINITELY coursing through my bones now!!!

[@tdata545]

Oh I do remember this guy's channel and videos on this. Neat to see he's trying to make it commercial.

[@studwb22]

I've been waiting for this for so long

[@captainsausagexl]

I've been waiting for something like this for a long time!

[@GameSlayer41781]

This is actually really cool for phone gaming, i thought it was a clam shell by the thumbnail. That would be cool also bc it would double as a phone case

[@zptaco]

So glad Josh is getting some recognition here. Hopefully he has a successful launch

[@jesseseehawer5840]

I remember watching his video and seeing it thinking "how has this not been thought of yet?" And also thinking they better hurry up so I can buy it.

[@DigitalJedi898]

This is awesome I really hope this takes off

[@layzbean430]

wow, what a cool idea. can't wait to see how it progresses

[@Mite000]

As someone who used an Xperia Play, I love this idea. It needs to be way thinner though, it's basically a DS Lite strapped to a phone at this point. If it can have the footprint of maybe a large battery case for phone, that's where you want to be at. And I would absolutely cut analog sticks to make that happen and keep to the basic d-pad an buttons

[@Nateanderthal]

We are releasing our game on mobile first and this kind of thing gives me hope for the future mobile gaming, especially since our game is very old school in style. Physical controls will make it a better experience.

[@typingcat1814]

I am so hopeful that this becomes a huge success and that Josh gets his due recognition and reward. I hope that a USB-C connection option also comes to it. For streaming purposes, latency is enemy #1, so any option to cut that down would be appreciated.

[@labnoise]

It has to be a case or a telescopic solution that is thin enough to fit most phones with a thin controller so I can have it on all time, but this is what I have been wanting for over 10 years

[@michelangelomariaferrisi1772]

13:45 can I suggest to put a second battery on the other side of the controller? To add more autonomy and more important to balance the weight of the controller

[@TDQGaming]

I cant wait for production. I only found out about this a week before this video

[@bdunleavful]

One big big thing they really need to pay attention to is to make sure the triggers are NOT super sensitive. I have that issue with my Logitech G cloud where my fingers rest on the bumpers and accidentally activate them

[@Rigby350]

I'm so happy that this controller is finally getting recognised!

[@maxwell2288pspgo]

Been thinking of a controller design like this for a while. When I saw his post on the controller on Reddit I started to think of ways to innovate the idea. Biggest thing for me would be making the controller portion something that can pop out of the back shell. That way you can just make new back shells to size for different phone models, but keep the same internals. It would also be a lot more consumer friendly in my opinion. Second thing is what Russ mentioned the analog sticks need to be the small analog stick from something like the Odin 2 mini. Lastly the inline shoulder buttons I think changing one set of them either(L1,R1 or L2,R2) to be a back/paddle based design would increase the usability significantly. A suggestion for the sliding mechanism is look into these metal ball plungers. They can help with the sliding action being balls and help with retention so you’re not locked in. Hopefully with some proper PCB design and better external material construction you can slim down the design some more.

[@xXRustyShacklefordXx]

16 and a half minute advertisement, great content dude 👌

[@FranckOA42]

I hope it will be compatible with many types of differents phone and not just only one model of Iphone (many tend to forget that there is other phones than Iphones), but it will be quite a lot of work to make sure it stay confortable to use for as much phone models as possible.

[@stansz]

They already sell magsafe cases for other devices so shouldn't be an issue.

[@FranckOA42]

@@stansz yeah, but the form factor of the phone can be an issue for confort, that's why so many phone controler systems have sliding parts.

[@JAMESRKOFL]

Can’t wait for the launch of this project.

[@JaviCastillo_89]

I've been following this project since it's first reveal. I too was trying to design a controller like that, since i've filled my phone with emulators, and have a telescopic controller, but it is way uncomfortable to carry around. I hope we can see a final product hopefully next year.

[@SensibleChuckle]

@retrogamescorp Russ I appreciate all the cost, time, and effort to build a pro studio, I miss the sunny day set lighting that was replaced by the dark typical studio aesthetic. The channel soul got lost in the move. The white room makes us feel like we are in your game space. The studio, is just a studio.

[@MangakasDream]

I remember when that Sony PlayStation phone came out. I thought thats how controllers would be on phones. Kinda cool to see it come full circle in a sense

[@devontitterington6418]

I've wanted this EXACT thing for years!

[@fizz872]

So excited for this!

[@Tr3x615]

I remember watching the prototype video from the creator, im so hyped for this thing, although my iphone is not the phone i use for gaming, i do that on my samsung

[@WAFLNeo]

Fantastic idea and the final product feels like it would be successful. I personally think with the extra girth this gives your phone, it should 100% double as a battery. Getting an extra hour or two of juice for your phone with it attached would be fantastic for gaming.

[@cb4j]

Something other than a handheld. Love it.

[@ninjason57]

I'll definitely be open to buying one of these once it comes out. I do hope they can make it as thin as possible.

[@TheRIkkyP]

It’s a great idea. Will be interesting to see how it’s made to work for phones of all shapes and sizes. Maybe offer many different magnetic or snap on back plates that you can slide the controller part into that way you can either buy or print the backplate that corresponds to your phone and slide the controller in as and when you need it?

[@XenithflareGaming]

Can't get the notification site to load so we must've killed it. Will check back later but this is a really cool design

[@fredrodnick2881]

This was the hard part, but now he should make a thick phone case to wear on your belt, just like the ones we have now but thick enough to hold the phone with the controller attached.

[@X862go]

Congratulations 🎊 Josh awesome job 👏

[@NicheCaesar]

This is sick. I can't believe nobody has ever thought of this before and would buy one in a heartbeat! I was literally just thinking about getting one of Ambernic's handhelds to supplement my ROG Ally for on the go sessions and this seems like a way better use of my money.

[@agamaz5650]

xperia play