Nissan 240SX Design Language and Aesthetic Explained by a Body Kit Manufacturer

[@cbeig]

I have 2 s13s, sr and ka, right now I have zero functioning vehicles

[@AlternateRye]

Based.

[@Nimbus.]

dude is about that life.

[@Paul_Corollo]

same✔️

[@killzone64]

Hell yeah man. Im also into nft's

[@smallwheelmeatytireconnoisseur]

I think it would be pretty swag to have subs send in their own cars and have you guys rate them

[@wr1ght939]

Readers’ rides.

[@asciicatface]

they already do that

[@sirwinksalot]

Zillakami clip is fire.

[@DanoFSmith-yc9tg]

Yes those celica gt-s's are actually pretty sweet Buddy's mom had one like 15 years ago when we were just getting our drivers licenses. I remember the seats being so damn comfortable, even for being a harder compound race inspired bucket seat. Pretty sweet car for a couple 16-17 year old kids to be rolling around in, in peak fast and furious era.

[@FoldedPaperDoll]

Two things: dorkidori is a fn treasure, I dont care if he hates my kouki kit And this episode was way too short.

[@dorkidori]

this episode was random chunks recorded from the S13 day special. when we recorded the show, it went for like 3 hours. total drunken blast as always

[@CollectorCarFeed]

This segment started as about 40 minutes but I edited out a lot to keep it relatively on topic

[@asciicatface]

and then you dropped an episode today where a full third of it was talking about netgear's smart water piss bottles lol

[@dorkidori]

Oh god... more of my guest appearance! LMFAO! i think im making people big mad voicing why the "type x" wing was and will always be just horrible.

[@troysbucket]

Disagree with Dorkidori. Owned my S13 for 24 years and ran both styles (even the overly rounded Bomex bumper/skirts/valance kits). Kouki aero all the way.

[@fvkaciv]

“you guys are in your 20’s and didnt grow up in the 2000’s” me: literally growing up in the 2000’s

[@chrisfyb]

Dorki is FIRED UP tonight haha.

[@dorkidori]

that was actually recorded almost a month ago lol. it was part of the S13 day episode... we went for 3 odd hours. this was just a chunk of the video that got edited out that didnt fit the them of what we were initially talking about (happens a bunch, hence why we go for 3 hours lol)

[@mobetta_stoned]

BN Sports were cool back in the early ‘00s for sure and always brought crowds at TAS but even back then I preferred GP Sports and M-Sports kits. You are right about the Type X wing. Even though I love it. It does have bad angles🤷🏽‍♂️

[@dorkidori]

i think thats the thing most folks dont understand about wangan wings, especially the TBO wing i reproduce. it has NO bad angles. the "type x" wing only looks good at certain angles, others its very anemic and misshapen. and i totally agree with you on the old GP Sports (hence why i reproduce the Type-R aero line) and M-Sports. always dug that popular M-Sports kit thats still around today. M-Sports kit is a little too aggressive for my tastes, but still awesome looking none the less :D

[@cameronhoessle854]

I like how every once in a while net gear would pop in for some constructive criticism

[@rpec2406]

I understand the argument about the type x wing on a 180sx but I think it still looks good. But preferably i like the duck tail wing a whole lot better.

[@fireemblemaddict128]

Sometimes you can make a statement with a car part. Not everything needs to conform to "design language." What hair fits the design language of a head? Buzz cut, bald, bowl haircut. Uniform, smooth. All can be decent, design language fitting shapes for the head. Asymmetrical haircuts exist though, and nothing on the face's design language is asymmetrical, at least not intentionally. Mohawks, pompadours, funny shaped afros exist too. They make much louder statements like the Type X. Wangan wings on the other hand are the haircut you'd have at your parents' house. Clean, classy, different from what you'd wear with your friends. In short, it's style.

[@urmumsanapple]

Exact same take

[@troysbucket]

@@fireemblemaddict128 Wangan wings are every fastbacks mullet

[@jockihm831]

The single cam heads are actually pretty good

[@CollectorCarFeed]

Better for turbo setups is what we've been told before and I think what dorkidori was saying here

[@takcleberry]

Type x kit looks amazing but the wing is too small for the body

[@Bittermn]

Ive never liked the type x kit. Good to hear other people think of it the same way.

[@RogueBeatsARG]

Yeah Type-X wings are not that good looking, but the 326 wing looks like a evolution and improvement of it

[@CollectorCarFeed]

Looks like Droopy Dog

[@RogueBeatsARG]

@@CollectorCarFeed depends on the build, tho i agree with the guy that 90s kits looked better, ive seen some wings in D1SL that you dont see anymore

[@nonename7869]

5:43 I totally agree with your opinion on both of these wings. I always liked the Wangan. Type X kit is brutal design.

[@kingnorlen]

BN Sports Type 3 was actually made in TWO versions for the 180sx, this specific KBD one is the version that was made for the BN BLISTER overfenders, which are ALOT wider than other overfenders, and thats the reason it looks absolutely fukin stupid with other fenders which are not even slightly designed the same way.

[@Andernol]

I don't think the type x kit looks bad, I just haven't seen anyone do it well. There's always massive body panel gaps, the body lines don't line up, it's poorly paint matched, or it's hanging on with zip ties. I'll agree about the wing though

[@pcz1642raz]

1zz/2zz represent! imo the 2zz is better than the 3s-ge

[@CollectorCarFeed]

If they had just made a NA GT-Four out of the 7G with the 2zz it would have been sick

[@e5141981]

sorry i have to disagree, the 2zz does rev higher and its all aluminum but the 3sge is a better engine

[@thabangtlaleane3497]

I hope I'll have my first car in time for the next reader's rides😮

[@_nuclearism3433]

FUCK YEA, ZillaKami intro again!!!

[@DanoFSmith-yc9tg]

I actually don't mind that honda front end, hate the colour, but it doesn't look horrible, and I get that s chassis front end parts are getting hard to find and expensive.

[@jockihm831]

326 power wing is the S-chassis version of the kaminari wing on mk3 supras

[@Sebbe40]

Type X wing looks baller and you can’t convince me of otherwise

[@JayFlo-ku8su]

That purple one with the aggressive cut is it

[@wr1ght939]

The RB20 is underrated tbh. I hope they stay that way tho bc they’re dirt cheap and decently reliable as a missile engine.

[@ShiniGamiVII]

Both the Wangan and the Type X wing are hideous to me. More Dorki on vids though

[@dorkidori]

maybe one day. its up to the guys to have me on... and dont wanna over stay my welcome. currently, this is my year of hell in terms of whats going on with my professional life. lots of changes coming to my product line, but also to me running my business soon.

[@ShiniGamiVII]

@@dorkidori *casually buys your Type X products* Keep keeping on.

[@dorkidori]

@@ShiniGamiVII as long as those parts make you happy, thats all that matters man :) i know a lot of people out there really like "type x" and im busting my butt right now to introduce better OE replacement items via my product line that will hopefully be a hit with everyone. im just personally not a fan of the kit anymore (and havent been for a long time). however, that wont stop me from working to provide you guys with the best aftermarket or replica bits i possibly can! i know its important to you all, so its important to me! :)

[@ShiniGamiVII]

@@dorkidori Thank you for your dedication and hard work for these old cars. Truly. If it wasn't for people like you we would've been paying 3k for just one bumper by now....

[@dallasgladney5598]

So much info lol I am addicted to this

[@LOVE-VIBES-X-PROJECT-CARS]

See that confirms why I didn't really care much for s13's back then because it seemed like none of the kits lined up or matched aesthetically and had me questioning why do people like these over the s14/s15/z32 (from an aesthetic standpoint) On another note it seems to me the only way to make some of those s13 kits look good is when the car has a full livery. I'm guessing it's due to how it hides the body lines but once I fully see it on a 1 color it's kinda ass. Now I do like them more but it's gotta have the right kit or just be stock. Maybe dorkidori could make a better type x wing that is a bit wider. Somewhere between the regular type x wing and the 326 wing so that it sits nice against the body without the obnoxious overhang of a 326.

[@dorkidori]

NOPE! though ive been thinking about making my own version of the C-West Hammershark wing. friggin LOVE that wing!!! mine would break down into 3 pieces for easier shipping.

[@LOVE-VIBES-X-PROJECT-CARS]

@@dorkidori so I had to look it up and man I've never seen a wing like that. Is it fairly rare cuz I feel like it's something that I should have seen in the 2000s but somehow missed. None the less its definitely decisive. I don't hate it but idk if I love it.

[@dorkidori]

@@LOVE-VIBES-X-PROJECT-CARS Hammershark wings were rare over here. they were fairly expensive to ship as well due to their size... which kept them obscure. really, by the time the s-chassis blew up in the US, C-West wasnt a thing anymore in the s-chassis scene. the Vertex trend had fully taken over at that point.

[@mybloodtypeKRYLON]

The homies are crazy odyvias are low key clean

[@mybloodtypeKRYLON]

But I agree on the type x wing

[@resdyne9590]

Tbh I always liked the big bn type kits and the bigger body kits in general.

[@eroticgrimreaper1086]

This has to be the fastest i ever came to watcha video

[@danielescobar7618]

I like the listing that shows the size of standard box can fit in the hatch just in case a non 240 person who doesnt wants a neo classic economy sports car but wants a hatch might be tempted. This is obviously someone who knows how fucked facebook marketplace works

[@FND.A6]

Zilla kami x car feed

[@ПавелСкобарёв]

The body kit will self adjust over the first unmarked speed bump.

[@maxy.crimson]

This man came out swinging when he hated the type X wing and kit, holy shit XD

[@dorkidori]

this was actually much later in a recording we did like a month ago. wasnt the beginning of an actual episode. "type x" is just a terrible kit overall as it has a lot wrong with it in that nothing really matches (this is 100% on Nissan).

[@phantomflame0658]

@@dorkidori It's personal opinion, I don't believe this kit is terrible.... I definitely think the Type X wing is better than the picnic table you're trying to sell to everyone. I get the reasoning but NAH that's not it.

[@shiz7459]

shoutout moreskids for the wangan wing

[@blur4916]

I was never a fan of the BN Sports type 3 kit, the type 2 however is sick. Still, my favorite kits for the hatch are hot road and sexy style, and probably a dmax type 1 or vertex kit for the coupe

[@mr9ine138]

Leave these cars wingless please

[@robertoanaya2600]

My fav wing is the s14 kouki!

[@wadeflores6978]

I am gonna say it…bring back the Star Trek enterprise wing, that thing is best in slot.

[@ProdSlime-yv8sg]

i dont even look at 240s anymore i just watch them look at 240s now lmaooooooooo

[@nickwells20]

Does anybody get a "one upper" vibe from dorkidori

[@dorkidori]

*shrugs* im not everyones cup of tea. some people like me, others dont. same goes of any human being.

[@melvinbrumski1446]

Can anyone explain what Toyota was doing with the body language of the 2008 Corolla factory kit? All I can see is “jowls”.

[@davidsondan7471]

AutoZone has a cheaper battery. The Econocraft

[@nayoxd]

wangan wing is the best fr

[@Sentient6ix]

Yooo, he aint wrong about that BRZ engine. 12:1 compression, and it barely cracks 200 at the crank. Awful. The engine is stupid as fuck. I still enjoy the car, overall, though.

[@slowjoesubie]

I wanna put a wangan wing on my 94’ legacy turbo wagon

[@aaronsims8052]

I will say I do have a guilty pleasure for some wings. Really like the lan evo 5 wing, most early lan evo wings in general. But that being said the 240 just doesn't have that appeal to me. Takes away from the 240 actually. I like to see it's ass smooth and wingless self. Definitely thought wings were cooler in high-school lol

[@melvinbrumski1446]

FWIW I’ll take a KA24e over an RB20 any day of the week.

[@radflaco]

We need that g35 video🔥🔥

[@Tha_Protege_BA8]

Zilla Zilla 🦖

[@iancody3362]

W zillakami intro

[@ctrl-alt-bingo]

Dude dorkidori vids are always a good time, and finally someone said what i was thinking, type x wings are too small, and look shitty, you know what they kinda do look decent on tho? Motherfucking 7th gen celicas, i shit you not, anywho, nice vid ccf

[@Pharaoh_The_Great]

It’s the wingless stock body boyz 😂

[@nunyabusiness896]

Sorry, but the Type X wing is based and the Wangan wing just looks weird and out of place. The Wangan wing is too big and bulky for the fairly slender car that a 180sx fastback is. The Wangan wing looks like a giant cement slab sitting on the trunk in the parking lot of a Home Depot while the owner rents a truck. I disagree completely with this community college design assessment presented in this video. That Celica body kit is gross, though. Wing is OK, but that organic shape body kit crap that was big in the early 00's is disgusting.

[@dorkidori]

if youre referring to the black wangan wing in THIS video... this was an old bomex wing and i was never a fan of this one. the TBO wing that i replicate that doesnt extend out to the end of the bumper, THAT looks good... also keep in mind, there were A LOT of different style wangan wings that came out in the 90s ;)

[@phantomflame0658]

Yeah pretty much I agree, Type X is based

[@fireemblemaddict128]

Glad you're standing up for the type X. I don't even have any skin in this (I drive a honda) but I think the Type X wing looks nice from what I've seen. Not every car part or line needs to conform to overall "design language" or whatever the fuck. A wing can add something completely new and it often does across many platforms. In a way it can be like hair. Different texture and shape from the rest of your face, but brings something new. Design is so subjective. 80s hair was hot in the 80s and now look at it.

[@ryancartwright7487]

I don't think the the type x wing is ugly, they should have made a few changes to the lines to make it compliment the rear end of the hatch better. I don't care for the wangan style either, but i prefer the hatch without any wing on it at all. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@is_htx2340]

please make more 240sx vids shit makes me laugh !

[@RalphieCortez-ml4fr]

Dorki screams out like his avatar

[@regyrock5021]

More body kit talk!

[@pondsteppr]

More skids dj cameo

[@BDSsalcruz]

why add a wing to it looks mint without it all the wings are trash on this car

[@RogueBeatsARG]

well this guy is like just hating other body kit manufaturers, BN sports is one of the most iconic body kits out there, looks bad prob because its a cheap replica

[@dorkidori]

lol far from hating. BN Sports had a MUCH larger body kit line during the 2000s, the bulk of which has been discontinued. the remaining items (and the one that KBD replicated) are very mistmatched and aesthetically wrong when you are able to see and understand why.

[@RogueBeatsARG]

@@dorkidori the fitmen is kinda wierd, but i feel like if the fitmen were corrected would look way better, anyways there is any reason (like copyright and stuff) why those other kits are not brought to life again? i would love to see more old stuff like G-Corp ones

[@dorkidori]

@@RogueBeatsARG i believe you can still get g-corp. ive always dug the kit... though id delete the silly vent near the hood and make the rear bumper into a valance setup. im not a fan of full rear bumper replacements. i try to make 90s specific aero that is discontinued (and the stuff i loved when i was young)

[@michaeljones3972]

Man I just wanna see one really good 240sx build that’s not some lifeless clout car rare Jdm parts slash drift missile race car bro respect all builds stance Frankenstein shell stripped interior ring for service quick release 🤦‍♂️.

[@dorkidori]

have you not seen mine? its the white hatch in all of my posts. any "rare" JDM based part is simply stuff ive dug up from Japan that i consider special to me because they were the parts i loved when i was young.

[@RP-xb3vh]

Type X wing is nicest wing ever made! Only Supra and GTR compare to it. The Type X is the most unique and fits the S13 perfectly. You guys are high on crack and trying to stir a debate. That’s why they’re selling for over $1,000 these days because everyone wants OEM parts not aftermarket trash!

[@giorunsthis6693]

Type x banter 😂

[@GrayRohan]

Nah...type x wing is legit, 326power wing is...a special taste, Wangan wings look like ass. Type x kit look ok But yes,odyvias are hideous,along with the s15 front ends on s13`s

[@yoink6299]

DorkiDori🫶

[@overconstruction]

Ok that kids wing he made is hideous wtf?

[@hpzzz]

sup ❤❤

[@CollectorCarFeed]

[@louismat319]

I had a R32 wing on my, so much better.

[@bulls1777]

The wing you make is waaaaaaaack

[@dorkidori]

not really, but you are welcome to your opinion sir (as we all are). my V1 wing has no bad angles. the "type x" wing only looks good at certain angles. TBO wangan wing was designed with the shape and lines of the car in mind. the "type x" wing was an afterthought on Nissans part. something to simply add to the car to give it a more "modern" feel, but really didnt mix with the over all design language of the hatch. the hatch is a smooth car. the "type x" wing doesnt carry that smoothness with it. TBO wangan wing carries said smooth design language. wangan wings really only worked with late 80s/early 90s vehicles that incorporated the particular hatch/fastback aesthetic including the FC, 1st gen DSM, S13 hatch... even the Mk3 and Mk4 supra, plus FD fall into this catagory as all were hatch/fastbacks as well.

[@bulls1777]

@@dorkidori you got it fam I just don't like drag style "wangan" wing. "type X" wings don't look half bad. Not every wing that flows with body lines look good. Thats literally saying duck bill wings are cool or look good. but its my taste and your taste at the end off the day. Wish you well on your wing sales

[@dorkidori]

@@bulls1777 funny thing is (and you pointed this out)... people getting all heated because my opinion of "type x" isnt exactly stellar, and i see it from a very different perspective than most. what you mentioned is something a lot of folks are having a hard time handling and that is "but its my taste and your taste". you are absolutely right. i have my opinion, which is based in 21 years of being in the 240sx scene and it comes from a very different place than the younger owners of 240s who have only been into these cars for a fraction of the time. and i AM NOT saying my opinion is better than anyone elses... simply pointing out exactly what you said (and ill word it slightly differently), my opinion is mine, your opinion is yours and thats all part of being a human. we are all entitled to our opinions, and no ones opinion is wrong. just made from different perspectives :)

[@bulls1777]

@@dorkidori like I said "Wish you well on your wing sales"

[@e5141981]

wangan wing do match the body lines of the car, but they are ugly