Nissan 3.5L timing chain update

[@einc645]

TuroFM, I'm making my rounds to thank all of the videos that helped me. I did the same work with the same '06 Quest engine in place believe it or not. I was particularly concerned about the secondary sprocket alignment, but once you are certain that your No.1 piston is at TDC, the the cam keyways on those secondary sprockets align perfectly with a raised line on the back wall behind them. The primary chain sprockets have a line on the sprocket itself that run parallel to the secondary keyways and if that's not enough to assure anyone, the gold links must also align with the tick marks on the sprockets both secondary and primary just as you detail. Note to others: You should have another to help you remove and replace the sprockets as a set because it's a tight fit and it takes two hands on the sprockets and one on the chain to ease it around the tensioner. Also, double, triple, and quadruple check your links, tick marks, housing marks, and TDC indicated by crankshaft alignment before you button up. I even and turned the crankshaft several times (with sparkplugs removed) because I really wanted to make sure I wasn't hitting any valves. It took me a full week to do this but I did it and saved thousands. Kind of hard to believe it was all for a 50 cent piece of plastic. The secondary timing chain guide whine is gone! Thanks TuroFM!

[@scottfirman]

Timing cannot jump if everything was done correctly to begin with. You may have misunderstood him too. Its best to turn the engine over at least several full and complete revolutions to be sure everything re aligns when Top dead center comes around. I was told it may take as many as 30 revolutions before cam phazers and everything realign again. Once you are positive nothing was done wrong and nothing moved THEN you button up the timing chain cover. I learned this 45 years ago on my first timing chain job.

[@gpaahj]

Thanks for the video, this info was very helpful. I changed my chain,guide and tensioner with no manual,only your videos. I did not remove the engine, (what a pain in the a??. I actually think screwing around with the power steering pump was the biggest pain of job. I had a heck of a time getting to one of the bolts. One thing I was told to do from Nissan was to do the ECU Reset,Throttle & Accelerator Position Learning before I try cranking it over. I did that and it fired right up. Thanks alot for the video, saved you saved me alot of time with important questions i would have ran into.

[@sc0tty00]

Thx man. Changing my first timing chain presently and your vid is a little more confidence added to my psyche. oh, and about 2:50, that's RH on the engine b/c you're facing the front of engine. it might confuse some.

[@keving52002]

Please let us know if it started properly and if it all worked out. Im a big fan of Nissan and plan of getting another Murano soon .

[@jaquio69]

What this guy did was give anyone who was contemplating doing a(timing chain, tensioner, or a timing chain guide replacement) the ability to look more in depth at the type of problems you might have when chains are not installed properly and gives you some insight on what to look out for. Anyone can tear stuff apart and put it back together, but putting things back together properly is what many fail to accomplish. The mechanic that was taking shots at the guy for removing the engine form the vehicle and then stating that he was charging his customers for the job, um yeah i think its his own personal vehicle. I have yet to see anyone cover the whole job while the motor is in the car, they just remover parts and say "yeah that's the chain" . Cool reference video.

[@CompOstang50]

There are several videos on here that show the entire process....with the engine still in the car.

[@scottfirman]

Its best to turn the engine over by hand first before EVER hitting the starter. Also, its best to do it before buttoning everything up ,unless you enjoy pulling the cover back off again.

[@JoeTaco83]

Did u get the parts at the dealer or at the autoZon place? I just think for such a hard job it would be worth it to usr genuine Nissan parts. What do u think Turo?

[@petrdrbal10]

Hi Great video Turo thanks ....I got 04 Quest 3.5 .......Were you able to do it with taking of the 3 bolts cover or I need uo take of the big one for the quide ??? Also wander if it is just replace just the plastic only on the quide itself if not doable through the 3 bolt cover the whole guide ??? Thanks

[@mcpcartier]

Great vid....appreciate you taking the time to post and share your knowledge. I've poked around your info and some others and have realized that if I'm going to pull this apart I need to replace the secondary chains and the guide that mounts on the secondary tensioners. You pulled the sprokets off the end of the cams to get at those secondary guides, did you need to pull off the valve cover and put a wrench on the cams to hold them still while removing and installing the bolt?

[@weivecar]

TuroFM: Talking about the old guide. The top portion of the plastic, did it break off causing it to fall down? Looking at the new guide the plastic wraps around the top portion of the guide. You probably threw away the old one but just wanted to know if it shows if that portion broke off.

[@dixoncider7256]

good info on the weird tick marks. this looks similar to a pathfinder engine. thanks for the info. i usually run my engine manually a few turns and check the marks again. is this standard?

[@leomarflores206]

Hey nice video very helpful the only thing is how did you get the clips that go on the secondary tensions off and how did you put the new ones on .

[@louiemoscatel585]

Did you have to remove the upper oil pan as mentioned in the service manual?

[@leomarflores206]

Did you have to remove the cam sprockets ? And how hard was that part of the job ? I'm asking because my 05 nissan maxima is making that whineing noise and do too your great video now I know what that nosie is . Soo I plane to do the fix my self to save money iam very good with cars just never did a Nissan timing chain before just honda and acura. Soo if you can get back to me thanx

[@vicentegonzales3852]

So u took out motor and transmission together as removed the radiator and ac condenser and bottom of crandle and suspension n wheel stay on vehicle?

[@Mickey_Bauer]

Thank you so much for this video! Now, here's a stupid question, can two plastic guides for secondary chains be replaced without taking off the chains??? Please tell me there's a way! Also how much did you pay for the three guides and the main tensioner? THANK YOU!

[@my993c2s]

Great video TuroFM. I have a 350z with this engine and a broken valve spring (intake). Do you know if it is possible to remove the intake camshaft and then the spring without removing the timing case, chain, etc, etc?

[@weivecar]

Hey TuroFM; You couldn't turn the motor by hand to make sure the chain won't jump so timing won't jump before starting the motor or before buttoning up the timing cover?

[@tatycancel8687]

To whom it may concern: I have a 2004 Nissan quest 3.5 L engine and recently the timing chain was changed when I got the car back I was getting a code P0305, I installed new spark plugs you coils and new injectors, and I also check compression which was excellent any ideas as to why I'm getting this code? Is it possible that the timing chain can be off one tooth?

[@marcusochoa257]

Was not timed right

[@joelmarchus8574]

Great video! I am wondering if the engine needs to be removed to complete this job? Or can it be done while it is still mounted?

[@dixoncider7256]

its ususally done with the engine in the car, but easier to access this way.

[@eddiegarza6914]

i did just like you said, and putting it back in the car was no walk in the park, but it started right up.. thanks

[@MagicAyrtonforever]

I always mark it all before I take it apart!!! How many miles has this engine done?

[@peacekiller89]

Thanks man. Your vid is awesome. This vid help me a lot in adjusting my car timing chain. I have Nissan Altima 2005 se. Thank you

[@lilcrome323]

Hey, I have a quick question. Wondering if there's anyway I can get in contact with you

[@HondaWyo]

I do all my own work on my vehicles. I save so much money by doing it my self. so I will do it how I want. but it's a good thing I pulled the engine, because two of my engine cradle studs were almost rusted through. if I wouldn't have pulled my engine I would have never knew that and my car could have fallen apart while driving.

[@mdkawchermdkawcger1152]

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[@cindylou6154]

2004 Nissan Armada 5.6 mechanic says it needs timing chains replaced and he doesn't want to do it. A mechanic from the dealer came down to look at it and says it is a 15 hour job at $100 an hour. Does that sound right to you?? Some say it isn't worth it to fix, should just replace engine. Engine has 200,000 on it. What you think? Thank you for any help in advance!!

[@FixyourNissan]

+Cindy Lou , It is a 15 hour job to do those chains. With 200k miles, I would replace the engine. It's not much more in labor to replace the engine.

[@aaronchristians7924]

tbh just find someone to do the timing chain it really isn't that hard to do these ppl just wants to take all your money, with 200 miles u still got plenty of engine life in that engine

[@aaronchristians7924]

+Aaron Christians 200k

[@dulanu]

Hi, Thank you so much for the video, I have a 05 murano vq35de, has the issue where it's rattling when accelerating last year changed the main chain and the guides and tensions, still having the same issue. Worst is that if I go on stop and go traffic for about an hour the rattling get's very loud. My mechanic told that i have to replace sprockets. I don't know much about vehicles, appreciate if you could advise me.

[@palerider964]

Why would nissan make those clips plastic instead of steel??🤔

[@saamtech]

Can you tell us what Chain Kit brand you used? I am very confused and hesitant by all the mixed reviews and forums. Thanks!

[@adanarceo4636]

Cloyes kit.

[@ferdrenzi4204]

i am going to try to replace just the tensioner from the access cover. slack guide is still intact. my question is; when i remove the tensioner, is there a chance that the chain will drop off the crank sprocket or does it not get that loose? do i need to keep some sort of tension on chain during the replacement? having seen it with the cover off, i was hoping you could give me some insight. thanks

[@BJ40honduras]

congratulations man, this video is very important.

[@robflores123]

How many miles, model and MY is this Nissan ?. How long work time takes to chg all the pieces and reassembly the vehicle?. Please let me know. Best regards,

[@sprydo7113]

thanks my friend...other videos did not show this part...good to know!!

[@bolajiazeez9815]

keye

[@tonysutubemoves]

I am thinking of buying a 2003 Nissan Altima for $4800 with 67000 miles. But it makes a ticking noise when it start running . Other than that the car is in great shape. Should I buy it , and if I do how much should I pay to to fix what u did. Thanks tony

[@Mabeylater293]

Run away. That Renault is a money pit!!!

[@DJR5280]

Tony Dangelo Did you ever buy it ?

[@amierondeau7539]

will this timing chain issue cause a vibration/shimmy upon acceleration or under a load? I've replaced literally ALL front suspension components, full tune up, new tires, balanced, etc.

[@gavinlily1985]

Are these motors an inerfence motor?

[@meerkhan4404]

very good take picture is a very very good idea

[@arturomartinez167]

Im sure you got it on by now but I had a hard time as well. I had to loosen the oil pan and drop it a few cm's...

[@tonymai1844]

Hi Turo, what is the part number of the plastic on the small chain tensioner.

[@CarlosRodriquezdrexelmart]

guau this is a very helpfull video bro tanks my dad is mechanic and he said that what you did is the rigth thing and he also told me that you shuld use sintetic oil that will help a lot too i just got a maxima and i have the same problen but tanks to this video i have the chanse to fix it i know this was a year ago so how the motor is working after that

[@sik6hundred]

I'm having a hard time putting the timing chain cover back on. How did you get it in?

[@KrazyPolak87]

Not bad, I always did the Quest timing chains while the engine was on the van.

[@arroyogold]

Where can I buy the painted chains and who makes it?

[@elizabethrobles168]

i have a 2006 3.5 nissan altima need to do timmin chain my questions are what goes with changing it out ? how many hrs of labor and what would be the the cost ??

[@henrytauch8383]

How many mile on the engine before it needs to replace the timing chain ?

[@arman757]

and the parts list in the tsb has since been updated to include the internal guide(top one) and the tension guide(the little little one)

[@rezkinginternational]

Do have a video on how to take off the motor, I am having the same problem 2005 nisssan quest

[@BeyondOpenSource]

I have a Nissan Quest and I started hearing a ticking noise...I'm assuming it is a timing chain after watching couple of videos. What would happen if the timing chain broke, for example. Would I have to replace the whole engine? Thanks.

[@VENUEATHENS]

entire motor has to be pulled in order to replace a tensioner and guides/water pump?

[@VENUEATHENS]

@Sam S whoever designed this must have been mad man!

[@rickygalbreath8159]

If I replaced my tensioners and guide and didn't touch the timing chain whatsoever yet my car just crank and cranks but won't start , so do I have to rotate the engine manually until all tick marks line up?

[@ald1292]

Take out the fuel fuse... basically crank the engine couple times so the oil goes to the tensioner .. don’t start the engine o

[@luisroldan4437]

I just did it with out taking the motor out it was fast and can be done with no problems at all

[@drifterx007]

So if the timing is 180 degrees off, the engine will turn and try to crank, but won't start right? And no harm done?..just have to redo with cams aligned properly, and crankshaft turned one full rotation (clockwise), then reinstall main chain and button it all back up???

[@DinoTheAynl]

Yes, it should not harm anything, I've done that before on my 240sx and all it did was back fire out of the intake..

[@Thedefinitionofresh]

wondering will the cams move once you realease the tensioners?

[@longdong3889]

Only if chain jumps a tooth on any of the sprockets

[@traderm3898]

Hi, How much should this cost at a repair shop? Where are you located.Thanks

[@HToWnRePPiiN]

It'll sometimes run you $1300-$1400 parts and labor. If you don't have that kind of money I suggest you find a hole in the wall mechanic shop in need of work.

[@victor397551]

thanks amigo x video.

[@Protoculturebjj]

How much did everything on the parts list cost?

[@LOV2XRL8RL]

My chain belt tensioner broke And I need to know where can I find some valves? I tried eBay and Advance AutoParts but they don't have. It's a Nissan Maxima 04

[@aduduabasimichael3942]

is it better to change the timing chain or get a new engine?

[@AngelR1987]

If I already set the timing wrong. by removing the water pump without removing the cover. I forced it in. I didn't break anything. The car starts but the timing jumped somehow. The idle rpm is lower than before, and Reverse forces the engine a lot. How do I fix the timing now? Should I follow the marks as you're stating

[@Danscraigslist65]

Did you get this fixed? I was thinking of doing my water pump and am scared

[@AngelR1987]

Dan E don't do it yourself. I did mine and it was hard I ended up damaging the engine because timing was changed

[@geo-fy1my]

how did you re time it, or did you take it to a shop?

[@jonyoung6854]

When you change the chains do you have to change all the gears also??

[@dark4137]

Jon Young - No, just the guides, the chains, and tensioners

[@MiahDougie1]

Great Video Man. Ok basically Nissan has a lot of preventive maintenance on plastic guides for these family of engines!! With that said I think I will reconsider buying rubber band engines instead of chain driven???

[@zacapurifa]

turofm,, i like your video thanks to you i know that i timing this engine on the right way ,,, thingis i start turning the engine clokwise and is like the timing marks never going to be in the some spot ,,,,, i like to put everthing back togheter jejeje and start this baby what do you think

[@sethnewby]

You have to rotate the crank 7 turns to get them to line back up

[@marvy7491]

Ok.... Everything was lined up but after turning over the engine by hand the colored links dont match anymore..... Did i smurf up?

[@Dancing_Alone_wRentals]

Other comments mention that it is over 40 revolutions before the marks line up again. This is why techs go back to basics and line up TDC first, then their cams etc. No smurfing has taken place. You are free to go.

[@makaylaheller]

If I need to remove the secondary chain tensioners do I have to pull the cams or is it easier than that?

[@sethnewby]

no but you have to remove the front and rear valve covers to access the secondary tensioner bolts , you will also need to hold the cam shaft with a wrench to keep it from turning when removing spocket bolts

[@makaylaheller]

Thanks

[@HellaFlushTonyG35]

Will I be able to replace the tensioner by simply removing the small cover ?

[@picklerix6162]

HellaFlushTonyG35 - Nope, you have to remove the timing chain cover.

[@manthny118]

is it the same set up on my 2003 infiniti g35 coupe?

[@frankmachado1010]

well I am going to be 64 july, have one lung and I am finishing up replacing timing chains and its not hard it is just a lot of work. I spoke to someone that works at advance auto that owned a maxima, he said he replaced the chains and 10k later it happen again. so' all I will say is this, I bought all new motor mounts off Amazon prob 2 yrs ago, but I am not here in the USA for 6 months of every year, as I was pulling it apart I took the new mount I had replaced off and noticed that the ear was broken off and from the looks it happen some time ago, I paid $129.00 for this chain kit and now after seeing this mount I am sort of sorry I didn't buy the 259.00 kit which I believe was a Nissan mfger. we ll I guess its a wait and see cause if it comes to doing it again I will, I have the car ready for paint also, painting it the same navy blue it was from factoryr. I have bought many parts from Amazon not all for this car, I live next to a salvage yard and sometimes buy a car to repair I go slow but I get it done and done right. I have had some bad times even with parts from NAPA, bad rotors, did a brake job on an f150 and whacked the front rotor to free it up and it actually broke! crap metal, suppose to be made with steel but the chinese are using cast iron which means it will heat up and warp and also if you hit it with a hammer it will break... happy motoring men!

[@seapeddler]

Of course, Nissan could have made engine mounts integral with the engine and welded them to the chassis. Timing chains greatly mitigate injury in a high speed collision, as well as prevent cell phone static. Silly comment # 356.

[@robflores123]

OK, 2006 Nissan Quest, how many miles? ,pls

[@eddiegarza6914]

awesome vid im doing and a 3.5 as well thanks,,, now im going to watch the top dead center vid

[@arturomartinez167]

I don't do this for a living. I would guess here in AZ mechanics would charge anywhere from $60-90/hour. You can expect to pay more at a dealer since they quote their "Labor Fee" book and it states that the motor needs to be removed while it is not necessary to remove the motor. At the end of this video I quote some other KZbinrs that show how to do the repair with motor in vehicle. There are pros and cons to both...

[@delrosemcbean445]

I have a noise in the engine it's not as loud as the one in your my mechanic says my timing chain is worn out and he as to take the engine out to change it I need some advices! !!

[@paulbouscaren113]

Delrose Mcbean I'm going through this now with an '04 Quest I bought with the timing chain rattle. Nothing I've seen on any of the videos indicates that a running engine with a noisy chain, in these particular engines, requires a new chain. That said, my advice to you, and what I'm trying to do, is find a mechanic who says, yes, we have done a bunch of these. Usually that place is the Nissan dealer, but if you can find a good mechanic who is now independent and has done a bunch of them, maybe he knows how to McGyver it without removing the motor. My local dealer in New Jersey is quoting about $1300 to do the job. And, that is just the tensioner not the chain, sprockets, water pump and all the other stuff buried in there.

[@NUTHUGGER2000]

Delrose Mcbean You dont need to take the engine out. I am a Nissan Master Technician and I Charge 8-10 hours labor [depending on vehicle condition] GO TO THE DEALER ! You should pay no more than about $1500+tax for the job.

[@dark4137]

Delrose Mcbean +NUTHUGGER2000 is correct, motor does not need to come out of any NIssan with a 3.5 motor to replace the timing chain. There is a fair amount of disassembly but motor does not need to come out.

[@arturomartinez167]

I sure did use Nissan Genuine Parts and they were not that pricey.

[@arman757]

dude seriously you pulled the engine for this job and didn't do the rear cover too? coulda shoulda woulda when those paper gaskets push out.

[@sadiqalmashaifari3631]

what happen if chain not adjusted proberly ? would the engine works ?

[@dixoncider7256]

it has automatic tensioners so you should not be able to adjust.

[@dark4137]

Sadiq Almashaifari When you install, you need to make sure your cams are lined up before putting tension on the chain. Once you do put tension on the chain, you need to turn the motor over 2 complete revolutions by hand, meaning the crankshaft needs to do 4 revolutions, else you do run the risk of throwing your timing out of sync on the first start

[@TELLO3675]

HOW MUCH YOU CHARGE FOR AH MAXIMA AH 2005 IL LOVE TO DO MINE BUT IS IT MAMDATORY TO PULL THE ENGINE OUT OR CAN YOU DO THIS WITH OUT PULLING ENGINE OUT ;) BARE WITH ME LOL

[@hugohernandez7403]

hoy tuvimos la dicha de poner a tiempo uno así es un dolor de cabeza ver tods los puntos

[@alejandro22658]

Is this the same motor that all 6th gen naximas have? Mine is making ugly like diesel truck sound.who can tell me how much and how long does this job takes

[@alfee9411]

let me know if any noise comes back. i hope it doesn't for your sake. there may be a primary problem which caused tensioner/guide problem

[@cezar88is]

At what mileage this happened?

[@arturomartinez167]

Honestly I do not know. I think you do have to remove the case...

[@jonathanwest3656]

Sounds like nonsense car can fail to start at first because of various reasons like fuel pressure haven't build up yet take for example 2011 sti if you disconnect the battery and reconnect it on your first try it will not start

[@YeseniaYY]

i just replaced my tensioners and my car wont start but the gas needle moves like crazy could that be the cause?

[@albdroidadmin2390]

Please Can you help me to set Nissan pathfinders 2012 engine timing

[@armandolopez6938]

I changed the water pump and the timing chain tensionare and when i turn the car make a noise and the car turn off could u say me a fes cause i'll will thank

[@josesifuentes2592]

You probably moved timming... you should have removed tensioner and gone back twenty degrees back on crank yo relieve tension from the chain... installed the water pump and moved crank back to its original location and installed the tensioner

[@duvalmeikle5373]

just a job on the same engine some times hard to start & miss on 2 & 3 cylinders

[@romeoboss8974]

Check coil, injector and compression test on those cylinders that missing

[@trucavalier]

awesome

[@yazmaninAZ]

What is the average cost of this service?

[@alexsandy0832]

only in dealer they give you an estimate of 3700 only the entry if you have another problem it increases you so better look for a good mechanic believe me

[@blkcoupequattro]

give me a belt any day, still designed to fail!

[@justinsherrill7836]

can someone please help me??? I cannot seem to turn my crank after about 3 or 4 spins while im trying to line up my marks. I know nothing feel into the engine and the engine was not locked up before we pulled it out....PLEASE PLEASE HELP

[@dark4137]

justin Sherrill If you remove the spark plugs can you turn it?

[@hakeemustaz6582]

Very nice

[@faminu859]

Cute application

[@510maxi]

@TuroFM earings?

[@badridris9735]

Very good

[@elsifu85]

Taking the engine is probably the easiest wAy with out room for error... And it usually takes me about five hours ... And two cups of coffee

[@giorgio44]

hi i have a 2005 nissan altima 3.5SL and i need to replace the timing chain kit but all i can find is the kit W/O sprokets the cam sproket internal actuator the kit is like $300 but the sproket is like $400 does any one know where i can by this (online) thanks

[@electric8668]

I hope he replaced the water pump while he had it opened up.

[@TruAgape123]

This is a sad shame. Thanks to Renaults ownership of Nissan, u can expect this unNissan-like repair to be the "new normal" that depicts Nissans declining reliability along with other Nissan/Renault reliabilty problems.

[@prevost8686]

TruAgape123 I worked on Nissans for years. They had quality issues long before they were bought out. That’s just a fact. Unfortunately, their acquisition didn’t help matters any.

[@kanagaraju]

car mileage? :)