Nissan LEAF V2G Technology

[@clarityenvironment4136]

AT LAST! - I've been banging on about this potential for several years now. This IS game changing for transport and for intermittent renewable electricity. If our 2m cars all go electric over the next several years, each with 60kWh batteries, that's 2.3 days of storage for the whole of Australia, distributed around the grid, that's 3.5 Snowy 2.0's. The transition to EV's will eliminate the need for any curtailment, make Snow 2.0 and hydrogen redundant. Renewable hydrogen is hopelessly inefficient for all uses except ore reduction and as chemical feedstock (fertilisers) and will not be able to compete - it will be made redundant by this transition. Of course our federal pollies haven't got a clue, both major parties, the Coal ition and Coalition Lite Labor are both sold-out to the fossil fuel industries (especially the price gouging gas industry), so they are doing exactly the opposite of what is needed and wasting huge sums of public money on Kodak technologies and stranded assets. Congratulations Shane Rattenbury and the ACT government for listening to and understanding the technical opportunity and supporting it.

[@tonyharvey9916]

15 years ago batteries were not practical. Hydrogen will be practical to power transportation and run in conjunction with battery cars

[@davidhetherington8170]

Clear concise overview - the future now! If only those in 'the big house in Canberra' could see this... :I

[@SA-lw3xi]

too busy coddling the coal industry and cuddling its product

[@malcolmwarr9765]

I'm super interested in using V2H for a selective load to the point of looking at investing in ChaDeMo vehicles as it is getting passed out. I imagine the best case all those Leaf's were not in use (connected) and fully charged you may get 100/82k homes covered... I can't see V2G making sense until most homes have an EV in the driveway. Am I missing something?

[@larrymic2526]

This is great. When can we expect to be able to do this? If I was permitted to do this in Victoria I would do so immediately and buy a Lef specifically to take advantage of this. Is there opportunities to take part in this trial?

[@johnslugger]

*Too bad you live in an authoritarian regime where labor unions run the government, like BC hydro for one and IBEW (International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers) and COPE (Canadian Office and Professional Employees Union). High wages for them = High prices for YOU.*

[@derekparkes5449]

Peak demand power is expensive, especially if carbon neutral. This is the solution. A government subsidy adding to the price paid to EV owners for peak power supplied into the grid would support both EV uptake and solar installation. This would actually be cost neutral because it would avoid the necessary expensive macro solutions such as Adelaide's battery backup or pumped hydro.

[@conradsealy9603]

And on to of all this. Nissan Leafs DONT catch fire. Unlike teslas and other EVs. Nissan clearly has produced great EVs.

[@davbhard]

Except how leaf batteries (and all EVs in the world) only get recycled about 5% of all that are produced. Nissan themselves just recommends buying a new leaf, when the battery starts to lose total charge. EVs are primarily good, if you just want to throw your car away after it's been used too much. I currently have a leaf, asked Nissan how much it is to replace the battery and they told me to just buy a new car. They don't even stand behind the card they make. Good thing my niece will need a car to learn on, so I'll sell it to her, and she won't be able to take it too far. And end up getting into trouble.

[@conradsealy9603]

@@davbhard great for your niece but what makes you think it will be any different for any other EV? The battery pack is the most expensive part of ALL EVs.

[@economistfromhell4877]

@@davbhard thecarguy.com.au/nissan-leaf-battery/

[@SA-lw3xi]

@@davbhard except thats the wrong way around 95% of an ev battery can be recycled and the recovery of its valuable components-cobalt,lithium nickel etc is economic AND being included in the megafactories.But before that EV batteries can have a second life as the demands of stationaary application are far less than a car.Thirdly California has already moved to legislate to enforce 80% minimum degradation over the warranty period of 8 years( I think it is)-as per usual the rest of the world will follow California