Good job in including the failed attempt alongside the successful one. Not only did it make the video more enjoyable, but likely saved some people a lot of work.
@NITAKA-jpn Жыл бұрын
I would appreciate it if you could think that way. While I do believe this tool is more high-performance compared to others, it's not capable of removing rust quickly, and at best, it can only smooth the surface of plastic, you know.
@brianleduc22449 ай бұрын
Great attempts !! As for removeing rust takes a life time ! What you built is used to clean,,,,deburring, ,,, and smoothing edges,!,,,,,,, as well as creating a Satine finishing on new parts
@NITAKA-jpn9 ай бұрын
That is correct. I think the use of this tool is not for rust removal, but for deburring and edge smoothing. The plastic parts actually turned out beautifully. Probably the same for aluminum parts.
@crossgrainwoodproductsltd92306 ай бұрын
I loved the creative process of making the machine. I've been restoring antique handtools for quite awhile and nothing beats a good wire wheel to remove rust from threads of nuts and bolts though. I also use Evaporust and let the pieces sit for a couple of hours, or over night if really bad. The a light brass wire wheel to help remove any residue. EVAPORUST is all natural, no harmful chemicals is biodegradable,( but I do take it to a chemical depot to rid of it due to the stuff that is left behind in it.) But best of all, you can keep reusing it many times before it needs to be changed out. I did enjoy the video!!
@NITAKA-jpn6 ай бұрын
I too think wire wheels are the best way to remove rust. However, it takes a long time to polish the bolts and nuts of one motorcycle, so I made this tool, but unfortunately it did not help. The rust remover you recommend is expensive in Japan, but I have a similar product that I will try next time. Repeated use is an attractive product for me.
@clifficus9 ай бұрын
Great effort, I like it, the simple design for me is brilliant, it’s the best I’ve seen, I’m going to make one. Like another commenter stated maybe using a bigger material would work better. Thanks for sharing 👍😃
@NITAKA-jpn9 ай бұрын
I am glad you liked it. However, I don't think this tool is suitable for rust removal, so I don't recommend its production in my opinion.
@smvk666Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video and exposing the flaw of the device. To remove rust faster you could soak the fastener in a vinegar solution for a couple days prior to using the tumbler. I am thinking building one for processing parts in batch while I do something else.
@NITAKA-jpnАй бұрын
I am glad you found my video helpful. Your reasons for needing a tumbler are the same as mine, but I would not recommend an oscillating tumbler. It takes a long time and makes a certain amount of noise. If you are going to buy or make one I would recommend the rotary type.
@Hamid-az7 ай бұрын
Good idea that works but I think the fan will get damaged after few uses due to centrifugal force. This device is more useful for polishing and polishing parts that have scratches after sanding and need to be polished and smoothed. In addition, the bigger the machine and the coarser the seeds, the better the result.❤
@NITAKA-jpn7 ай бұрын
It's true that the bolts and nuts attached to the fan should be a little smaller, but surprisingly the fan was not broken. It's great for smoothing the edges of plastics, etc., and I've used this tool for that several times. However, it is a pity that it was not possible to remove rust, which was the original purpose.
@robertocoiante19815 ай бұрын
Un progetto facile realizzabile e funzionale, un prodotto buono per la levigatura è sicuramente le pietruzze di quarzo o sabbia di fiume grossolana asciutta lavorerebbero meglio, inoltre se si potesse creare un movimento rotatorio anziche' sussultorio credo che levigherebbe meglio, per finire il buratto deve lavorare almeno un'ora per non far scaldare troppo la ventola, si potrebbe fare il tutto in più tempi. Comunque ci hai regalato una buona idea.
@NITAKA-jpn5 ай бұрын
Vi sarei grato se lo pensaste. Tuttavia, vi dico che non lo consiglio.
@tinycuisine654418 күн бұрын
Genius! Is the motor still going after so much vibration?
@NITAKA-jpn18 күн бұрын
There's a flaw! I can't get the rust out with this tool! Also, I tested it for a few days and it didn't break the motor!
@tinycuisine654418 күн бұрын
@@NITAKA-jpn Thank you for replying! I will try it, then. Greetings from Spain.
@NITAKA-jpn17 күн бұрын
I would like to tell you that you should not make such a useless tool. The sound is annoying there and it won't remove rust. This is my advice from Japan.
@tinycuisine654417 күн бұрын
@@NITAKA-jpn Thank you... too late! I've already made one, but it suits my purpose perfectly, since I only need it to vibrate small molds for concrete. So your time has not been wasted, you have helped someone a lot! Thank you!
@Bogdan-vl6nx6 күн бұрын
Обычно делают ременной привод, что бы вибрации не отразились на двигателе
@FixitEasyDIY Жыл бұрын
Interesting project brother ❤
@NITAKA-jpn Жыл бұрын
brother ❤❤❤❤❤
@markowen7255 Жыл бұрын
try putting a burnishing chemical mix with water or change the media to a heavier one .
@NITAKA-jpn Жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that it would be effective to suppress the movement of the abrasive as you say. I will try it next time and make a video
@herrkulor37716 ай бұрын
I wonder if there is Tungsten/Wolfram sand or rests from cutting that can be bought online. To see if the density of the abrasive matters.
@NITAKA-jpn6 ай бұрын
Thanks for your valuable input. Many people have given me a variety of opinions and I will eventually compile and verify them.
@WwarpfirewW Жыл бұрын
Very nice little helper for a workshop, I have 600W motor from some old machinery so I will try with that 😈😂
@NITAKA-jpn Жыл бұрын
It doesn't remove much rust from steel and is useful for shaving a little off the surface of plastic, but I don't recommend it. The motor needs more than 3000 rpm than the power.
@finalmidnight11 ай бұрын
@@NITAKA-jpn If you want to remove rust you should try electrolysis. You can use the same 12v power supply. It is annoying because you must make electrical connections to every metal part, but it works very well.
@NITAKA-jpn11 ай бұрын
@@finalmidnight Thank you for your valuable input. The reason I made this tool is because I wanted to do other work while I was removing the rust. As a result, I have not used this tool... The electrolysis is used to remove rust from the inside of motorcycle fuel tanks.
@finalmidnight11 ай бұрын
@@NITAKA-jpn Another advantage of electrolysis is that you can use the same setup to apply coatings to your parts after the rust is off. You can plate your parts in zink or nickel. Even chrome, but it is hard to make that look perfect. You can do all that overnight or while you work on other projects.
@NITAKA-jpn11 ай бұрын
@@finalmidnight I didn't know that it could be electrolytically coated. Next time I'll look up how to do it on WikiHow. But it seems like it would take a lot of time to do that to bolts and nuts. I'd like to come up with a device that would make it easier.
@wYatt121509 Жыл бұрын
Nice work! Your ingenuity is apparent. SUBBED,
@NITAKA-jpn Жыл бұрын
It's just a shame that it ended in failure.
@marioneta12017 ай бұрын
It is a design error, the rubber on the legs does not allow enough deformation and that is why the device does not vibrate well. Change the legs for springs or something more flexible and use sand and you will have better results.
@NITAKA-jpn7 ай бұрын
I see. However I do not think there is much difference. Because it seems to me that the deformation of the spring to withstand the weight of the sand is about the same as the rubber used.
@dreamlookautodetailingauto335310 ай бұрын
Good design. But maybe if you left them tumbling for 3 hours or so it will get better?
@NITAKA-jpn10 ай бұрын
The design and sand movement are nice. But I can't get rid of the rust. I also think that with time this tool can remove rust, but I would rather use other methods to remove rust than using this tool for a long time.
Big stainless wire wheel on bench grinder…30 seconds DONE ✅
@NITAKA-jpn9 ай бұрын
That's right. But I made this tool because it's hard when there are so many of them, but it was just garbage.
@CatsShortTV6 ай бұрын
Can this make round crystal stones which are often used for bracelets?
@NITAKA-jpn6 ай бұрын
Probably not. I did some research and found that the hardness of a bolt/nut is 4, while a crystal is 7, so this tool, which cannot even remove rust from steel, will not meet your request.
@gruobn7482 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it polish through that soft aluminum pan? How long will the fan run? The bearings in most of those fans can barely take being out of balance from dust.
@NITAKA-jpn11 ай бұрын
There may be holes in the aluminum pan after long-term use. I think the fan will probably break at the same time.
@rechkunov_andrew11 ай бұрын
40 min?!? What? Result - null... Life hack: Grinder tool/drill + steel brush = 1 minute max!!! Impossible...
@NITAKA-jpn11 ай бұрын
Really, this tool is garbage. But can you believe it? There are tools on the market that look just like this tool.
@rechkunov_andrew9 ай бұрын
@@NITAKA-jpn I agree with you
@guywithjeep9 ай бұрын
A proper tumbler and reach everywhere a brush can't @@rechkunov_andrew
@Reppo800858 ай бұрын
@@NITAKA-jpn賛成です
@copasetic13 күн бұрын
A vibratory tumbler is the tool of choice for all sorts of cleaning, deburring, and even polishing jobs.
@sterkriger25726 ай бұрын
I think if you use a more aggressive medium it would be better. But for rust removal a rolling tumbler is better
@NITAKA-jpn6 ай бұрын
Is it still a rolling tumbler? I am thinking that would be better for me too.
@karmicmessenger9 ай бұрын
I'm a mechanic and I clean these things every day. A bench grinder with a wire wheel cleans all those parts to like new in about a minute. you could leave those things to vibrate three days and it wouldn't clean them half as well. Just sayin'.
@NITAKA-jpn9 ай бұрын
I am a former mechanic and I have the same opinion. I just had high hopes for this tool so I made it. I did not get the result I wanted...
@davidhawley1132 Жыл бұрын
Just looking at commercial media, I think the media needs to be much bigger, probably in order to increase the impact forces. Small media like that being used here may work on softer materials, but not steel. Now I'm inspired, I might try gluing alumna media to small stones to try in my DIY barrel tumbler.
@NITAKA-jpn Жыл бұрын
Maybe you are right in your consideration, but I haven't tried it because I didn't think commercial media could reach the small gaps. However, I think your observation is correct because when I put plastic products in this tool, it scrapes off a thin layer of the surface.
@opinair7 ай бұрын
you need more corondom to get more weight and more pressure and you need more power to get good result ....rubber coating for container .....good job
@NITAKA-jpn7 ай бұрын
Thanks. It may be difficult for me to use this tool the way I want to.
@Lucaspc99 Жыл бұрын
I think it would work best with softer materials, or with a harder media like silica sand
@NITAKA-jpn Жыл бұрын
The smooth movement of the sand suggests that the issue might lie with the media.
@asakayosapro Жыл бұрын
Definitely the media. Abrasive media designed for the purpose would work best; they’re usually triangular granules that can get inside screw grooves for bolts and maybe nuts, depending on size. While there is also the option to mix media and add things like Sandblasting media for cleaning tight spaces, it’s usually best to use sandblasting for that purpose. Vibratory tumblers need the right media, sufficient amount of vibratory power and sometimes also need to have water as part of the process for it to work, and even then the surface cleaning will not be 100% especially for tight spaces the media cannot reach. Though, this machine is good proof of concept, it’s best to use a purpose built motor and secure counterbalance combination, either directly on motor shaft if it an sustain the forces, or belt driven to avoid stress on the motor bearings.
@NITAKA-jpn Жыл бұрын
@@asakayosapro I think you are right. I wanted to try the dedicated media, but unfortunately I could only find large ones in Japan. As a result, it was a failure and I stopped using this tool.
@emmamay2272 Жыл бұрын
Amass a bunch of old spark plugs and get a hammer. I suspect pulverizing some ceramic to use a a crude media would likely work. That said, I would tend to thing that leaving it on for a longer run, would work, it would not using the current media as it cant be small enough to penetrate the tiny groves in the bolts. I am going to try this though. I may use a shaft mounted counterbalance. Thanks for the inspiration. Good idea to use the rubber tubing @@NITAKA-jpn
@nameerlatef207911 ай бұрын
White sand is better.
@gibamec7636 Жыл бұрын
Very Good job!
@NITAKA-jpn Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@jamesromboldsr18526 ай бұрын
I'm sorry but what are all the holes in the five pan for I understand for but what about the rest
@NITAKA-jpn6 ай бұрын
I'm sorry if my answer is off the mark because I'm not good at English and I didn't understand your question perfectly. The reason there are so many holes for the bolts is to increase the strength of the bowl by making more so that it does not come off due to vibration. There is no particular meaning. The big hole in the center is because this is a chiffon cake mold. I chose this mold for better sand movement.
@MetalKaplamaNasılYapılırАй бұрын
makine yapımı harika ama parlatma taşları ile kuru bir şekilde pas sökemezsin o taşlar ile biraz su ve az da kayganlaştırıcı mesela hafif soda yada deterjan
@NITAKA-jpnАй бұрын
Bu gerçekten doğru olabilir. Bir dahaki sefere alüminaya biraz su eklemeyi deneyeceğiz.
@pacoperezabella Жыл бұрын
Buenisimo, servira para piedras?. Saludos.
@NITAKA-jpn Жыл бұрын
Los objetos pesados pueden hundirse hasta el fondo, por lo que el efecto puede ser débil.
@Thracium4 ай бұрын
Bravo!
@NITAKA-jpn4 ай бұрын
Hee-hee!
@tompaton2840 Жыл бұрын
Simple, but as long as the bearings on the fan last, it is better to make an eccentric.
@NITAKA-jpn Жыл бұрын
I think sand movement is good...
@hardwarefixer682211 ай бұрын
thank you
@NITAKA-jpn11 ай бұрын
Thank you. However, considering that similar tools are not used in repair shops, this tool is structurally useless. I learned that from this experience.
@The_Grim_Rose Жыл бұрын
How much did the whole thing cost?
@NITAKA-jpn Жыл бұрын
Prices may vary depending on the region, so I can't provide exact amounts, but approximately, a PC fan is around 1500 yen, a chiffon cake mold is about 1000 yen, a used adapter costs around 300 yen, and including other items like wood and headphone jacks, it would be around 4000 yen. When converted to dollars, it's around 28 dollars.
@mattiparviainen11 ай бұрын
First they were rusty. Now they're rusty and dusty 😄
machine design and idea is very good. I think sand material is not suitable for removing rust.
@NITAKA-jpn Жыл бұрын
thank you. It might have worked if I added water to the alumina abrasive.
@vrian552310 ай бұрын
What kinds of stone you used
@NITAKA-jpn10 ай бұрын
First cat litter, then alumina sand media #20 A finer alumina sand or an abrasive stone might have removed the rust nicely, but I did not see the value in this tool and stopped using it.
@yasminemosaad1353 Жыл бұрын
I want to know what kind of sand you used please ☺️
@NITAKA-jpn Жыл бұрын
First cat litter, then alumina sand media #20 A finer alumina sand or an abrasive stone might have removed the rust nicely, but I did not see the value in this tool and stopped using it.
@yasminemosaad1353 Жыл бұрын
@@NITAKA-jpn ok I will try thank you ,I make this as an example of vibration for my project
@NITAKA-jpn Жыл бұрын
@@yasminemosaad1353 One piece of advice. I recommend smaller bolts, such as M4, to attach to the fan.
@PescatoreFocoso11 ай бұрын
the problem with this solution need a lot of hrs to make clean stuff(12hr at least) and the fan bearing are not make to operate at full speed for this long time!
@NITAKA-jpn11 ай бұрын
Over 12 hours! ? I was surprised, but I actually thought that was all I needed. I can't stand the noise before the fan bearings on this tool break.
@PescatoreFocoso11 ай бұрын
@@NITAKA-jpn i see a lot of videos and make to rotary 10-12hr for a perfect clean
@heuerspitstop11 ай бұрын
Very good Idea, don´t matter success, the Walk is the Goal or how do the Amis say? 😀 I subscribe! 🙂 Greetz from Germanys HEUERs Pit Stop 🚗💨💥
@NITAKA-jpn11 ай бұрын
Thank you. But I wanted it to be successful... Amis say? ? ?
An overnight soak in vinegar or 10 minutes in muratic acid works much better and without all the work.
@NITAKA-jpn Жыл бұрын
I hesitate to use chemicals because they rust faster.
@Gambiarte Жыл бұрын
I dont believe the machine will last long, fan bearing is not made to shake like that.
@NITAKA-jpn Жыл бұрын
Indeed, I believe that's the case. We should make the bolt nut smaller and attach it more towards the center.
@mohammedbenouis14567 ай бұрын
the fan risks breaking and no longer resisting vibration...
@NITAKA-jpn7 ай бұрын
The possibility of this is high. But surprisingly, fans do not break.
@nimda396711 ай бұрын
Интересно, через сколько придет песта подшипнику вентилятора из-за такого биения?
@NITAKA-jpn11 ай бұрын
Я пользовался им несколько часов, и он, похоже, не сломался, но я не думаю, что он прослужит долго. Кроме того, этот инструмент не помог удалить ржавчину, поэтому я больше им не пользуюсь.
@zleipnirgoh5972 Жыл бұрын
maybe u need some waterbased compound to improve the finishing.
@NITAKA-jpn11 ай бұрын
There was also an opinion that water should be added. I think both are correct.
@justanotheerampart10 ай бұрын
is that car litter?
@NITAKA-jpn10 ай бұрын
No, it's just garbage.
@madeinengland6784 Жыл бұрын
Where you get the bowl?
@NITAKA-jpn Жыл бұрын
You can find them in fluted tube cake or chiffon cake molds.
@Jeanbond2990 Жыл бұрын
Intéressant. Une autre solution serait de faire un petit tambour à la façon d'un lave-linge...
@NITAKA-jpn Жыл бұрын
I created this tool with the intention of achieving efficient polishing even with small quantities and in a short amount of time by considering the movement of sand. However, the expected results were not obtained. On the other hand, in the case of a drum-type tool, the gentle movement of the sand requires extended polishing time, and in order to achieve the same capability, it unavoidably needs to be larger in size. It is difficult in many ways.
@yavuzsatcapar69672 жыл бұрын
great work
@NITAKA-jpn2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Just be careful, even with this machine running efficiently, it can't remove the rust in an hour or two.
@matatanrm84392 ай бұрын
Donde consigo la bolsa de piedra para pulir ??
@NITAKA-jpn2 ай бұрын
No sé si el traductor al español funciona correctamente, pero yo uso moldes de bizcocho de sifón. Las piedras abrasivas las compré por correo en una tienda que vende suministros industriales.
@manson_ds11 ай бұрын
Спасибо за вдос, может нужно большее количество абразивного материала?
@NITAKA-jpn11 ай бұрын
Вам придется сменить абразив на другой. До этого этот инструмент бесполезен. Думаю, именно поэтому его не увидишь в магазинах.
@manson_ds11 ай бұрын
@@NITAKA-jpnв моем государстве в магазинах и так, практически ничего нет.
@ivancamargo35917 ай бұрын
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾
@NITAKA-jpn7 ай бұрын
( ',_>`) 👍
@THEECATGUY11 ай бұрын
It be easier if you just dip them into a cup of muriatic acid for the stripping of the rust.
@NITAKA-jpn11 ай бұрын
With that method, if you don't coat it quickly after taking it out, it will rust quickly... Annoying
@ovenkloven Жыл бұрын
Wat'n Häckmäck. Jung, nimm ne Drahtbürste. Pro Teil 2min. Fertig😂
@NITAKA-jpn Жыл бұрын
30 Stück für eine Stunde... das ist eine Menge zum Nachdenken.
@壺義春10 ай бұрын
普通にドライトイレとして良いような気がする。 ここにウンコしたら勝手に埋まっちゃうんだもんね。
@NITAKA-jpn10 ай бұрын
埋まった先で細かくバラバラになって、、最終的に「くっさ~」になりますw
@vdsmade Жыл бұрын
Super👊😎
@NITAKA-jpn Жыл бұрын
Super 😤
@ВячеславКолпаков-е5х11 ай бұрын
Нужен иной абразив, который бы смог крупную ржавчину и удалить.
@NITAKA-jpn11 ай бұрын
Означает ли это, что вы используете смесь нескольких типов? Я думаю, что ваше мнение правильное.
@ВячеславКолпаков-е5х11 ай бұрын
@@NITAKA-jpn просто есть опыт обработки металла, и твёрдость абразива имеет большое значение. Чем твёрже абразив и множество острых углов на этом абразиве тем лучше идёт обработка.
@Recalamidad Жыл бұрын
Bien por la maquina, mal por el abrasivo.
@NITAKA-jpn11 ай бұрын
Creo que sí.
@Recalamidad11 ай бұрын
@@NITAKA-jpn Jeje, prueba y error, no queda otra.
@Bogdan-vl6nx6 күн бұрын
Тебе нужны керамический абразив + песок и жидкость, вода или масло, без жидкости это плохо работает
@NITAKA-jpn6 күн бұрын
Видите ли, этот инструмент должен быть более мощным, чем другие подобные видео, но он не может удалить ржавчину. Я сделал видео, чтобы люди не обманывались. Но спасибо за совет.
@Назар87917 ай бұрын
Долго мотор не проживет работая так. Подшипник не расчитан на такие нагрузки. Будет разбивать.
@NITAKA-jpn7 ай бұрын
Я так думаю. Однако я использовал его уже десятки часов, и он еще не сломался.
@dragonifos7 ай бұрын
Try with sand
@NITAKA-jpn7 ай бұрын
I don't feel like using it anymore...
@olgerverac3066 Жыл бұрын
Viendo los resultados prefiero usar limón
@NITAKA-jpn Жыл бұрын
It's probably better to use chemicals because they can clean every nook and cranny.
@alextrofimov62087 ай бұрын
Бентонит не годится для этой цели. Нужен крупный песок или купершлак.
@NITAKA-jpn7 ай бұрын
Похоже, что полирующее средство другое. Подобные советы я получал от многих людей.
@miroslavbeno8584 Жыл бұрын
Ako dlho to vydrží do samozničenia ventilátora!!DDD
@NITAKA-jpn Жыл бұрын
Ak ho používate dlhší čas, možno budete musieť skrutku viac vycentrovať.
@hba541710 ай бұрын
What a funny nonsense. What do you think how long the fan bearing will resist the unbalance?
@NITAKA-jpn10 ай бұрын
I made Making my own Cheap Ultrasonic Cleaner (check video) with similar construction and this one has been used for over 50 hours and has not broken. However, it would be better to use a small size bolt and nut to install it.
@shahidsiraj541910 ай бұрын
you people taken too much time to remove rust , I advise so simple , Just put in salt acid for 30 minutes and all rust has been gone . No need any machine .
@NITAKA-jpn10 ай бұрын
It's better than making this useless tool.
@alchemik201011 ай бұрын
Don't work
@NITAKA-jpn11 ай бұрын
😢😢😢😢😢
@Laerte_759 ай бұрын
prefiro jato de areia
@NITAKA-jpn9 ай бұрын
eu também. Eu simplesmente não tenho dinheiro nem espaço.
@Laerte_759 ай бұрын
@@NITAKA-jpn eu vi uns jatinhos de de areia portateis nos sites da china. mas no caso destes, também da certo um escovão de aço circular na ponta de uma furadeira, seria mais eficaz...
@NITAKA-jpn9 ай бұрын
obrigado. Conforme mostrado no vídeo de customização da motocicleta, eu uso uma esmerilhadeira de mesa com uma escova de aço acoplada. A principal razão pela qual fiz esta ferramenta foi porque pensei que poderia realizar outras tarefas enquanto removeva a ferrugem. Acabou em fracasso, mas...
@IBN001 Жыл бұрын
no sirve
@NITAKA-jpn Жыл бұрын
podría ser así
@digao2108771238 ай бұрын
It would be better to add some anti-rust solution !!!!
@NITAKA-jpn8 ай бұрын
If rust can be removed
@jayrock3056 ай бұрын
Waste of time
@NITAKA-jpn6 ай бұрын
If we had infinite time...
@ya6801210 ай бұрын
Failed 😂
@NITAKA-jpn10 ай бұрын
Yes, it's a useless tool with no intention of improving it.