Today we talk about the pros and cons of a V8 engine vs an Inline 6. T-Shirts: www.paccracing.com/store
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@Mr._Flunky7 ай бұрын
Straight 6 no questions needed.
@filippolak232413 күн бұрын
hell nah
@xsniperprox17 ай бұрын
you forgot to mention that many inline 6's were made purely for being torque efficient but ironically made just as much power as most V8's.
@prevost86866 ай бұрын
I love how the manufacturers considered their inline 6 offerings as just entry level power plants for those who didn’t want to spend extra for their “powerful “ V-8 lineup. Now, decades later the sixes are fondly remembered with enthusiasts who still love them and the V-8s are just not as interesting. At least to me anyway.
@mobythemerpup15155 ай бұрын
@@prevost8686Back in the 80s that was different.
@kledomuc17132 ай бұрын
I love I6s, I really do, but for real sport cars flat plane 4valve V8s are the real deal if you can‘t afford 4valve high power V12s; I‘m talking as a NA enthusiast.
@kledomuc17132 ай бұрын
@@AmaAndZing Actually I drive both engine layouts.
@AmaAndZing2 ай бұрын
@@kledomuc1713respect, I was just trolling v8s are awesome
@dilsher127 ай бұрын
Inline 6s spinning to 10k rpm just gives me goosebumps
@Calvin-Nelson7 ай бұрын
They sound so good
@richb.43747 ай бұрын
I love them both. Calvin has really opened my eyes on the potential of an inline 6 though. I never imagined a grocery getter SUV engine could make the levels of horsepower Calvin gets out of these and survive. I'm an old dude so the V8 will always have a place in my heart, but those Vortec 4200's really haul the mail!
@T0tenkampf7 ай бұрын
agreed, I like playing with underutilized engines and was going to get into the Gen V LU3 V6 but I think the potential of this 4200 has changed my mind
@Terryray1237 ай бұрын
Look up Ford barra or Nissan tb48.
@richb.43747 ай бұрын
@@Terryray123 I'm aware of those engines too. Great performers. Calvin's channel fascinates me because I own an old Trailblazer with a Vortec 4200 in it. I enjoy watching Calvin and his dad squeeze tons of power from them.
@ItsDaJax7 ай бұрын
Wait till you find out the Lima 2.3 can make about 500hp.
@richb.43747 ай бұрын
@@ItsDaJax Technology has come a long way for sure. My father had a 74 Olds Cutlass with a 350V8 (5.7 liter) and a 4 barrel carb. Being of the smog era, that engine was pathetic....factory rating was something like 180hp! The bone stock Vortec 4200 in my Trailblazer makes 110 hp more with two less cylinders and a hundred less cubic inches of displacement. I remember when the V8's were so badly detuned that 455 cubic inch (7.5 liter) big blocks were barely making 250hp. The Lima engine you mentioned would blow away any stock so called "High Performance" V8 of that era with ease.
@Splungers7 ай бұрын
We participate in the NHRA stock eliminator class. Every car and engine combo has an index, regulated by weight. A 2 wheel drive trailblazer with a 4200 would mess with some minds.
@TheSartinBrothers7 ай бұрын
Lmao that “for the four of you out there that this applies to… good luck 😄👍” at the end had us dying 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Calvin-Nelson7 ай бұрын
Lol. Glad someone got a kick out of it.
@ericwilson25857 ай бұрын
Great video Sir. I've always thought that 7 main bearings were better than 5, especially with 6 cylinders on 7 mains compared to 8 cylinders on 5 mains.
@prevost86866 ай бұрын
It would seem so but the mighty Leaning Tower of Power only had 4 main bearings and held up quite well.
@ericwilson25856 ай бұрын
@@prevost8686 Oh yes, I see what you're saying. Now that I think about it, I think the Ford flat head V8 had only 3 main bearings.
@LiquidChild997 ай бұрын
I have both, M113k Supercharged V8 and an N54 Twin Turbo Inline 6, love them both.
@Dranreb86524 күн бұрын
Ok, child
@infernoking75047 ай бұрын
It depends like for me I have a 302 v8 and a 300 inline 6 both make more then plenty of torque but I do get a bit more mpg with my inline 6 towing both are manual trucks and are the same truck.
@DericO-rz3be7 ай бұрын
ANOTHER INTELLIGENT VIDEO... THANKS CALVIN FOR THE LEARNING
@lazyhoundracing96217 ай бұрын
You did a great job explaining this. I'm building a 53 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup for drag and drive. Old school. Inline 6 292 (308). Ryan Falconer drivers side V-12 head. Obviously crossflow 340I/220E. Billet crank, steel billet rods and billet cam all by Crower. Mains dowelled and girdled. 5 stage dry sump. Weiand 6-71 with 2 Quick Fuel 650 DP and 16 jet nitrous plate. Electromotive direct fire EMS and a 5 speed. Thank you for taking the time to make this video.
@lushisushiemushi4 ай бұрын
Whoa
@CrazyTony657 ай бұрын
Volkswagen VR series engines were like 15 degree vee, also the basis for the W series (two VR motors sharing the same crank).
@baronoflivonia.35127 ай бұрын
I have a 06 Trailblazer EXT that I got from son, who killed the 4.2. I put a 07 4.2 with 72K on it from national salvage company, installed with new water pump & T stat. I've driven 4 years and very happy with it. My last inline was a Ford 300 in a early 90's E150. I have thought often about putting Trailblazer frame and drivetrain under my 41 Tudor deluxe, regular TB frame is perfect, mine a foot to long. Great content.
@Christdeliverme7 ай бұрын
A response for your algorithm. The sound of an Inline 6 is absolutely spectacular. It's a very unique sound, sounds tough and refined. However they sound horrible as a diesel, one of the worst imo. Like someone vomiting in a dumpster.
@Calvin-Nelson7 ай бұрын
That's fair.
@UberLummox7 ай бұрын
I have a pretty rare '67 Jag 420 compact sedan. It's DOHC 6 sounds delicious. Also have a '68 Fury w/a 440 w/exhaust cutouts. The sound of an uncorked BIG BLOCK V8 is magical. Violently magical! As is the 1970 Porsche 12 cyl. boxer Le Mans cars. I love all the sounds. I learned a lot here, thank you!!!
@prevost86866 ай бұрын
I’m a longtime fan of straight 6 engines with the Ford 300 being my favorite. It’s never been a high revving engine but was amazing for the work that it could do given the unimpressive HP&Torque numbers.
@richardlea8184 ай бұрын
I just bought a truck with the 300 in it. It feels like im driving a diesel! I’ve heard they’re long lasting engines, hoping to have good luck with it
@niall217 ай бұрын
Other benefit of specifically this layout cross flow head, as well as I think most other longitudinally mounted inline engines made by anyone who isn't Nissan, is that you also keep all the heat away from the clutch and brake fluid and the steering column is easier to route under an intake as opposed to through an exhaust. At least for most of the world.
@niall217 ай бұрын
Early Miatas also go the wrong way.
@itbaggedurgf7 ай бұрын
Great video showing the pros and cons of both platforms, I’d like to see Calvin modify a Ford 2300 with 5.2in stroke, the Lima 2300 to be exact, build it for power, turbo charge it slap some e85 in it and test it to its limit.
@krevo6c7 ай бұрын
I like the VR6. You get a very compact Engine that can still support quite a bit of power if build right.
@knowbull5hit5907 ай бұрын
Such a unique sounding engine too, definitely a bucket list build.
@young119847 ай бұрын
I agree and dont even like VW😂 but still want one to drop in a Ranger or S10
@truthboomertruthbomber51257 ай бұрын
The only thing I have against the VR6 is the long exhaust ports that are in the water jackets. I amazed they don’t have overheating issues.
@carnivorebear65827 ай бұрын
The VR6 does make it a bit more compact, but throws out the inherent balance of an I6
@jamesmedina20627 ай бұрын
@@carnivorebear6582they are plenty smooth
@specialK1217 ай бұрын
Great side by side take on both. Be interesting to see the comparison of GM’s (60 deg V6 DOHC VVT) LF4 3.6 and or LGW 3.0 vs the 4.2 inline 6
@marke.haller42677 ай бұрын
Thanks for the clarity on the crank natural frequency issues. I've been in balanced 6s and 8s, and there's something about the 6s that just felt better - smooth and creamy. Also - I'm with you on the sound. I kept my 223 six in my 55 F100. My "guy" balanced it, gave me a two barrel - and taught me a lot, most of which has been lost in the attic. The Ford wasn't going to win anything - except maybe in the audio lab. Nearly silent at idle, and an almost Euro-purr at 3000. Oh, just for grins I kept the vacuum valve on the manifold - just in case I wanted to hook up a hose milk the cows in the field. Nice video - thanks!
@edugj237 ай бұрын
Yeah, fives and sixes get me hyped more, N/A or turbocharged. Part of that is also for being where V8s aren't widespread, so people have grown to fight with less.
@turbotom4167 ай бұрын
great teaching video, keep moving forward.
@user-ek3iq9pf4q7 ай бұрын
Thank you for the information provided. Good luck.
@Trains-With-Shane7 ай бұрын
LOL i'll bet this video is going to generate some hate mail! lol. Although I agree on almost all points. My only descent with your points is in the only subjective point which is sound. I prefer the sound of a V8 over an inline 6. Although I am very much a fan of, and own, both platforms. Although my inline 6 is an old 236 stove bolt in my 57 chevy sedan. One point I would like to add though is about a pushrod engine vs an overhead cam engine, especially in regards to v8's. And that is reliability of that system. Which you partially touched on. VVT and other similar systems aside it just seems that, at least in the case of V8's, like you mentioned, there are far more failures of the timing system in engines like the Coyote, Tritons, etc. that use a dual of even single overhead cam system due to the long chains that have to be kept in check with guides, tensioners, etc. They just seem to have a far greater failure rate, and also repair and maintenance cost, than a pushrod engine has. Also, damn you! lol. Since I discovered your channel i've been creeping facebook marketplace looking for a Chevy Trailblazer because I want to own one of these Vortec 4200's. lol.
@damianlindsey61777 ай бұрын
I personally like the sound of a massive rpm v8(think nascar) over the overly smooth inline 6s but that's not close to saying they sound bad. Not at all. I remember back in the 90s there was a guy that bracket raced a built 300 inline 6 C10 and it was running low 6s in the 1/8th and sounded almost exactly like the 4200 you guys build. He had a 671 on his and it ran on alcohol but man it was killer
@deltabluesdavidraye7 ай бұрын
Sound has no bearing on what is better .
@prevost86866 ай бұрын
A Ford 300 six has a sound all its own. Even though it’s only a couple cubes short of a 302 the sound is totally different.
@damianlindsey61776 ай бұрын
@@deltabluesdavidraye no but I'd rather drive my 302 ranger every day rather than my 93 accord even though the accord makes 75 more horsepower. My 302 is naturally aspirated and revs about the same as the turbo 4 in the accord. The accord is faster, gets better gas mileage, and is more comfortable for my daughters to ride in but the Ranger is a better hot rod because it's more viscerally engaging.
@damianlindsey61776 ай бұрын
@@prevost8686 yeah, the C10 I was referring to had a 300+ cube stroked 292 chevy inline and man was it badass. Hearing the idle surge of a roots blower on an inline 6 is wild.
@sailingjazzy82727 ай бұрын
Nice Summary!
@realnutteruk17 ай бұрын
Very nicely presented! I knew most of the physics, but you added some nuances I wasn't aware of, particularly around block construction... To be contrary, my favorite engine sound is an inline 5!
@Calvin-Nelson7 ай бұрын
More power to you my friend!
@courtleyjohnson7 ай бұрын
Im a 4200 owner right now I have a hole in my block trying to accumulate parts to get it back together love the content
@courtleyjohnson7 ай бұрын
Anything would help god bless
@TheProchargedmopar7 ай бұрын
When it comes to my 6.7 L Cummins, STRAIGHT 6 ALL THE WAY!!! LFG! 👍💪
@Friedbrain117 ай бұрын
I grew up with inline 6's and prefer them. Never really like the v8 but it is useful I guess. I6 forever :)
@64Pete7 ай бұрын
Never felt the pull of V8s, so I've never owned one. I've always driven sixes, more lately turbo 4's. Great content as always Calvin, appreciated!✌🇦🇺
@chopperking0077 ай бұрын
So you're gay ?
@64Pete7 ай бұрын
@@chopperking007 Ask ya mum.
@Peculiarsafe837 ай бұрын
@@64PeteYou’re missing out. Go drive one and compare it to the turbo 4 cylinder. You’ll soon see that the Naturally Aspirated V8 is far superior. I have driven both. I will never go back to driving a Turbo 4 cylinder or V6.
@prevost86866 ай бұрын
I own a 95 GMT 400 with a 5.7 SBC. It’s a 3/4 ton and absolutely pristine. I also have an 88 F-250 with a F.I. 300 six . It’s not so pristine because it does the work around here. It will outpull the 5.7 SBC and get better fuel economy. The 5.7 SBC was the most inefficient engine for it’s displacement that I’ve ever owned. The Chevy gets 12mpg regardless of load and driving habits. The Ford will get 14-15 pulling the same load as the Chevy.
@jamescarter63185 ай бұрын
@@Peculiarsafe83 I have a 468 big block Chevy with a towing cam in a k3500 and a LNF 2.0T cobalt SS. Max torque on the LNF is at 2000rpm. Max torque for the stock 1997 vortex 7.4 is at 3200rpm. A good turbo 4 will hit every bit as hard as a NA V8, you just gotta wait a half second for the boost.
@elektro30007 ай бұрын
I love V8s and straight sixes...in my job I've done a lot of development work on both. My wife and I have an all-V8 fleet (2UZ-FE, LS6, and Apache 392 HEMI). But my favorite is a boxer six. Strongest "bottom end" (it's the center so no main caps, the whole crankcase holds the main bearings), perfect balance to rev, best weight distribution, short stiff crankshaft without shared throws, and it sounds better than either one.
@knowbull5hit5907 ай бұрын
Loved your keep fuel away from hot stuff explanation😂😂
@jalanlee327 ай бұрын
Been watching for years tempted to see if I can cram a 4.2 or a 3.7 in my 03 Z whenever you get the chance would love some 5 cylinder content
@bvward7 ай бұрын
You're right, Calvin... Volvo (built by Yamaha) 60° V8 comes to mind☺My favorite sound is a 5 or 12 cylinder...
@wyatteells90337 ай бұрын
Have one in my daily, sounds incredible, not crazy fast or easy to work on in a 4100lb fwd based awd sedan
@damianlindsey61777 ай бұрын
Or the SHO V8 that had Yamaha built heads for the Ford Taurus. Had cam gear issues but was a good engine if you got that fixed before it was an issue.
@TassieLorenzo7 ай бұрын
The combination of flat plane crankshaft and 60 degree engine in the Volvo V8 Supercar made for a very unique sound!
@dangrefrath98527 ай бұрын
Love the inline six. Use to plan builds on a 250 (or 292) with my Clifford's Research (6=8) book back in the 1970s.
@andrewnelson37337 ай бұрын
You need to buy a 6>8 tee.
@jellytheninja7 ай бұрын
I'm looking forward to hopefully build a m50 with my friend for his e34 BMW. certainty cool stuff.
@robertmontalvo5977 ай бұрын
Another great video!
@mariusfridlund557 ай бұрын
inline 6 is the king of sound
@wymple097 ай бұрын
I have the 4.2 Atlas in my Trailblazer. I love that damn thing. 270K, no oil consumption, runs like the day I bought it in 2007.
I sure like your videos! I need to re-power a '47 Chevy. Not so much for hot rod reasons, but because I get run over when I drive it. The rod bearings are lubed by dippers and oil jets, and I'm pretty sure the oil jets are weak. The vision of those poor rod bearings is on my mind when I reach 45 MPH with that stock 4.11:1 rear axle. Like so many people, I think a frame and powertrain swap is the best way to go, because the drive shaft being enclosed means I can't swap rear ends without also swapping transmissions. The 4200 most closely resembles the original 216 L6, and these car have a fairly narrow firewall and engine compartment.
@WhiteTrashMotorsports7 ай бұрын
We used an s10 rear and a th350 on a v8 swapped 49 Chevy. we kept the original frame.
@dougmedeiros88627 ай бұрын
They have 3:55’s for those, I remember the 215&216’s well I worked at a Independent Chevrolet specialist that opened in 1926 it is 12 blocks from the 1916 Assembly plant Oakland California
@tjakr38697 ай бұрын
Wish there was more info/work on overhead cams engines. Awesome video thanks
@Calvin-Nelson7 ай бұрын
Yeah. They work so well.
@darrylcampbell44117 ай бұрын
Hey Bro. Really enjoyed your very informative vid. I too love the good old inline six. Great simple reliable engine. Unfortunately the sound I love is the mighty V8. However I have more Sixes than Eights. Love em..
@joelpalmer7 ай бұрын
Great video ! Thank you ,I learned a lot; One thing though, it's "oil galley" not 'gallery" (unless your engine is festooned with miniature works of art) :)
@lishiesteinsnightclub87703 ай бұрын
I have learned how to work on engines with old BMW inline 6s, it's a perfect middle ground for power and smoothness for if you wanna go NA or FI
@mogumede82117 ай бұрын
good video. Mercedes and BMW made some really nice in line 6s in the early 90s that you should possibly look at.
@stlchucko7 ай бұрын
One key thing that didn’t get brought up is displacement. V8s can be absolutely massive CID for their relatively compact size. A Some LS/LT have over 40% more CID than the 4.2L in stock form. Displacement is a huge advantage when it comes to making power.
@oldcivicjoe90697 ай бұрын
Everyone thought I was nuts back in '00 when I dropped a 292 into my '69 C20, that pretty near bone stock I6 went on to trounce a number of V8s with many thousands of dollars into them, both in 1/8 mile drags and in pulling applications. Sadly the stock head was not up to the task of such extreme and repeated abuse, ended up cracking between #4 exhaust port and a head bolt, I was never able to source a good one and ended up scrapping that still good short block several years later😢.
@michaelblacktree7 ай бұрын
Great video! I think both have their place. Personally, I like the sound of a V8 with 180-degree headers (or a flat-plane crank). And I also like the sound of an L6 with long-tube headers.
@Calvin-Nelson7 ай бұрын
Yeah. The 180 headers are hard to beat, but I still like the inline sound
@michaelblacktree7 ай бұрын
I also like the staccato growl of an inline 5-cyl, the burble of a 60-degree V6, the shriek of a V12 at high rpm, etc etc. 😎
@timothypremo69547 ай бұрын
Im swapping an LS into my 65 Valiant with a th400 right now. However I will be getting a Hurricane H.O. as soon as can get my hands on one. I want to be the first person to take one through a drag and drive comp.
@danielkoch68157 ай бұрын
I've long been a six-in-a-row guy myself as both my brother and my buddy raced six cylinder Camaros back in the day. My buddy's best was an 11.18 in his '69 pulling 18" wheelstands running a 250 cid. stick shift car with two Holley 500 cfm 2-barrels. My brother's '67 car was also a 250 with two 350 cfm 2-barrels, but was an automatic and ran a little slower - mid 12's. That was 1971 with very crude tire and traction technology. Consistent traction was only a rumor unless the pro-stock guys showed up and sprinkled their gold "fairy dust" on the track...good times! The only good thing about being this old is that I actually witnessed history in the making. I saw many of the legends up close and personal! I have to agree that there is no sound quite like a healthy six at full song. Heard more than one competitor comment that it sounded like a nest of angry hornets!
@twins4life2747 ай бұрын
That's awesome! I wish my twin would have joined the Camaro family but she belongs to the Mustang family 🥹. That's the only Mustang I'll give a pass for 😅
@AshGTE7 ай бұрын
Over here in Germany the Vortec 4200 isn't really available. The Mercedes-Benz M104 is a good substitute though. Not particularly expensive these days and all problems are well known. The Mercedes-Benz OM606 or OM648 are good diesel alternatives. The M57 from BMW is also extremely good.
@MrChevrolet946 ай бұрын
I’m definitely more of a V8 engine fan and I own a 2019 Chevrolet Corvette C7 Stingray with the LT1 6.2L V8 and I love it with all my heart. I also do love in-line 6s as well, but mostly for Diesel engine applications. For gas I choose V8. For Diesel I choose in-line 6. I also want a 15.2 L Caterpillar C15 in-line 6 Diesel engine for my dream RV bus. Also, you’re my hero!!!!! Thank you so much for keeping the internal combustion engine alive and I encourage you to keep doing so and fight against the tyrannical government bullies forcing electric vehicles down our throats. Gas and Diesel RULE!!!!!
@GrandPitoVic7 ай бұрын
I really enjoy your videos brother. If I knew how to fabricate I would Def put a 4200 into my Crown Vic. But since I can't I am doing a Ls3 swap in her instead.
@Calvin-Nelson7 ай бұрын
Sounds like an awesome project to me!
@farncoisbisson77377 ай бұрын
i own a 16 chevy with the l83. been running it on amsoil signature series and use ethanol free fuel since new and never had any issue with carbon built up or lifter failing yet and i got short of 4000hours on the engine with 195k km... built plan now is between the L8T block altho id like to go with a 3.2xx stroke and keep some meat on the cylinder walls so nothing bigger than 4.100 on the pistons. And then i saw Nivlac57 videos of twin turbo 4200... and .. even with the turbos... still cheaper than a Lt4 hp fuel pump/injectors l8t engine built. so my mind is trouble.. for a daily driver that will cross canadian rockies every couple weeks matched to a 6l80e and a 4x4. will see what 2024 bring and if I stay with a v8 or go i6.
@neilziesmer61097 ай бұрын
GREAT INFO AND EVEN BETTER PRESENTATION . 4200 DOES SOUND COOL IN YOUR VIDEOS .
@fishingtherapy45657 ай бұрын
I had a 2002 chevy trailblazer new. I was told, back in the day, I should turbo it and have a sleeper. Some forced induction specialist told me this back in 2003. Should have listened to him back in the day. Good news is, today these vehicles and parts are cheap because nobody knows their potential.
@deuceinfinityАй бұрын
VW VR6 is 15 Degree V6 with; 7 main cap, single head with 20 studs in tight pattern , the size and weight of a 4 cylinder, dual overhead cams, the coolest sounding engine due to unequal length intake/exhaust runners odds to evens, and lots of aftermarket support! if you really want your mind blown look at a bentley W12...
@martyjohnsonozarkoutdoors81987 ай бұрын
Im still waiting on the cadi north star engine. Boosted !
@Calvin-Nelson7 ай бұрын
It's coming very soon
@martyjohnsonozarkoutdoors81987 ай бұрын
@@Calvin-Nelson good deal. I'm very interested to see how well it does
@Dr_Xyzt2 ай бұрын
Neither one is "Better" but depending on your chassis, one will have more benefits. In my truck I did a rear-mount gas tank, so going V8 let me get some nice symmetry and light weight. I could have kept the mid-mount gas tank, but that would have required custom headers that go outside the frame rails, which means mandatory side-exit exhaust -- I did a VVT deleted coyote that turned out pretty awesome. Only 5 wires to hook up. DBW connector, 1 cam sensor, 1 crank sensor, 1 knock sensor bundle, and then the injector/ignition loom can be bundled together to the holley ECM. The problem was, this setup costs twice as much as an LS. -- I'm designing a modernized Duesenberg J with IFS and am setting it up to use an inline-6 for all of the reasons you mentioned, plus there's no header in the way of the steering column. I like the 4200 quite a bit for those exact reasons.
@PatreonPreviewsofVictorTanzig7 ай бұрын
For years, the default swap option for a 1st gen Chevy Colorado has been an LS V8. However, thanks to some brilliant ppl over the last 4 years, it's now possible for the 4.2 I6 to be a cost effective solution
@tskraj31907 ай бұрын
Some of the Colorados and Canyons were available with a 5300 Vortec V8.
@PatreonPreviewsofVictorTanzig7 ай бұрын
@@tskraj3190 only from 2009 to 2012. And they go for a much higher price. You'll find way more swapped trucks
@Godscountry27327 ай бұрын
With more aftermarket support, the 4200 would a great choice for drag and drive events. Calvin might want to ask his subscriber's if there is any interest in a plug and play harness, ecu, etc. for the swap.
@Calvin-Nelson7 ай бұрын
I think there is. We'll see where things lead.
@Godscountry27327 ай бұрын
@@Calvin-Nelson Me too.
@ericwilson25857 ай бұрын
And yes I agree with you all the way, DOHC 4-valves per cylinder are the wave of the future and way to go, along with all aluminum blocks too. I'm not to sure about VVT, "yet". Definitely do not care for DOD/AFM, don't think I could handle driving a vehicle with half it's cylinders not doing anything....
@Calvin-Nelson7 ай бұрын
Yeah. DOD is junk
@scottymoondogjakubin47667 ай бұрын
I like the sound of V8's with flat plane cranks best !
@TheProchargedmopar7 ай бұрын
I prefer the rumpidy idle sound of a V8 cuz Im an old classic BUT an Amera Berra in a 70s Dodge Duster could easily be called a SCREAMIN' DEMON and it would sound like it too. 😂
@unavailable86817 ай бұрын
I like both. For me, it's just a question of what it goes into. Do you have a long engine bay, or a wide one? Front steer, or rear steer? Just find a good engine that fits, with a sump that's at the right end. Bonus points if the hot side is on the passenger side, so you don't have to boil your brakes, or route your exhaust around your steering. And if you like pain; get a turbo v12.
@barefootbendrummer7 ай бұрын
This guy is pretty good, he should build cars or something
@Calvin-Nelson7 ай бұрын
Lol! Yeah. You're right... Man if only he knew how...
@samthing4thetrack8067 ай бұрын
sound, 6s better than V8s IMHO. I don't care if it is a 911, M3, etc. Now V8s are cool but yeah you really do need that fancy exhaust to make them sounds near as well, and most are not interested in doing that work. All in all I like the stuff you are doing, and how you plan things out. I am not a straight line guy but there are still things to learn. I recently lost my S54 and have not had the time to find out why exactly, conrod ejected :(. :(!!!!! they aren't making them anymore either. So I am very said that this occurred. Northstar? Some of the V8 vs I6 stuff is fluff in the personal opinion space. But some for sure is not. In the end the V8 can be more complicated for sure, and the ability of the LS to do what it does in an old fashioned way is stupendous. Note the C8 motor... the reality is that is what it takes for HP/Liter, or mid engine vs front. Some things are just so
@Thumper687 ай бұрын
I love my 4200 in my trailblazer but nothing like my sbc in my 68 RS/SS Camaro it will always be my favorite cause it’s what I grew up with.
@-thebatman-4 ай бұрын
You can’t even compare them like that 😂🤣
@Thumper684 ай бұрын
@@-thebatman- Yeah I can. I still own them both. Welcome to America.🤣
@-thebatman-4 ай бұрын
@@Thumper68 literally makes no sense comparing an suv to a muscle car. That’s like saying I like my Lamborghini suv but not as much as my Bugatti. Makes no dam sense lmfao.
@@Thumper68 but they’re in two totally different applications.
@douglasfurlong1Ай бұрын
Great intel, outstanding!!
@alanploetz71007 ай бұрын
Honestly if the sound I'm looking for says power, I'd go V8. But I'm an old guy who likes old pickups and 60s convertibles, so a smooth running, long lasting I6 fits the bill just fine. I've been binging on built Ford 300 I6 videos lately and thinking that might be right for my next pick'emup. Still, with GM it's hard to beat a small block V8.
@rustygehl7 ай бұрын
Well, I'm an AMC/Jeep guy, sssoooo yeahhhhhh..... I6, lol.
@bvward7 ай бұрын
Back in the '70's an acquaintance had a CJ-5 factory 304 V8 that he swapped a Javelin 401 into... In 4W High it would jump off the ground in a drag-style start☺
@jamescarter63185 ай бұрын
Have you seen the performance crate engines for jeeps? 280hp inline 6 for a little over 4K. When my XJ blows up I wanna get one to replace it. 280hp in a 3k pound vehicle would be very quick for a jeep.
@rustygehl5 ай бұрын
@@jamescarter6318 Yep, actually having a 4.0 block bored and machined now for one, lol.
@jamescarter63185 ай бұрын
@@rustygehl that's awesome man. What is it going in? I call my Cherokee my golf cart because the interior is stripped and the doors are off, weights probably 28-2900 pounds.
@rustygehl5 ай бұрын
@@jamescarter6318 In an 89 YJ, so pretty light as well. There is a new vid with a 1k+ HP Stroker with blow through carb turbo'ed, look up Newcomer Racing. Too crazy for my blood, but freaking sweet!!
@lukebrennan5780Ай бұрын
Australian Ford Barra Barra 325T inline 6 is the killer in this conversation.
@ironv812115 күн бұрын
The other thing too, it's much easier to add a turbo to an inline 6 since the engine is more narrow allowing for more space in the engine bay, V8s on the other hand are better suited to having superchargers.
@user-xk4vw3cz4n7 ай бұрын
Performance parts are why most, will choose the LS. That's why I watch your channel, the road less traveled. Thanks, keep thinking and doing.
@RSDX997 ай бұрын
Coyote says 'hold my beer'
@-thebatman-4 ай бұрын
@@RSDX99coyotes are too expensive compared to ls series.
@RSDX994 ай бұрын
@@-thebatman- is that satisfying when your LS can’t run with the Coyote on an equal basis. Cheap is great for bragging at car shows but finishing second to the Coyote not much bragging then.
@-thebatman-4 ай бұрын
@@RSDX99 I’ve owned both the ls was cheaper but I did enjoy the mustang more.
@-thebatman-4 ай бұрын
@@RSDX99 you probably don’t have either lmao
@jaydubb717 ай бұрын
I can't choose. I can't choose. I love all 3. I've done boosted LS already. Boosted LT should be super easy. I want to do a boosted 4200...
@ericwilson25857 ай бұрын
I really prefer/want to hear the sound of a twin turbocharged LH2 revving to 8500 RPM's. And will do 7000, like it's no big deal, and run there like that's where it likes to be at.
@Calvin-Nelson7 ай бұрын
It's coming
@young119847 ай бұрын
I like the sound of the I6 especially when its underestimated because its an I6, annoys me when you hear folks say….only sounds right when its a V8 or only men have Vee8s and other dumb stuff to justify their feelings…i appreciate anything that makes 100hp per cylinder or more and some 4cyls are 300hp+ per hole so cant argue with success regardless of engine brand or size at that power level.
@Calvin-Nelson7 ай бұрын
Yep. Agreed
@TassieLorenzo7 ай бұрын
The BMW 635csi Group A car is one of my favourite race cars, it sounds so good! The RB20 in the Skyline HR31 GTS-R sounds pretty epic too!
@herrenindustries83052 ай бұрын
I have a Vortech 4200 I would like to build to about 700 engine hp. What parts do you suggest that need to be replaced or added to make this reliably?
@hosscartwright89257 ай бұрын
Cool 👌...Nothing against v6 or any other engines.But,the sound of a V8 ... Simply no other.My personal preference
@Calvin-Nelson7 ай бұрын
No worries. More inline 6's for the rest of us.
@wymple097 ай бұрын
The only real way to get a bearing problem on the Atlas 6 is to skimp on oil changes. The VVT gets dirty and restricts oil flow to the crank. A friend bought one with horribly dirty oil and it happened to him.
@AshtonCoolman4 ай бұрын
Between my RB26DETT and diesels, they've shown me that turbo I6 engines can do it all
@phredbull6 ай бұрын
Just wanted to mention the Volvo S80 that had a 60 degree V8 that was designed with Yamaha, and like all things Yamaha, sounds glorious!
@Calvin-Nelson6 ай бұрын
I knew there would be a weird one out there.
@kledomuc17132 ай бұрын
I6s are the real dream machines hence the balance is perfect and they are the best compromise between power and fuel consumption.
@brandonrohrer79147 ай бұрын
I wanna see you do something crazy so here we go. I wanna see 2 4200 put in line hooked together like a tractor puller. But in a car
@Calvin-Nelson7 ай бұрын
Boyd Cottington tried to do that in a Deusenburg
@FLORIDAMANIAM-he2lz7 ай бұрын
Degree of firing is more important then the amount of cylinders
@raynyhus20267 ай бұрын
I'm getting ready to build a sidexside using a 4200.
@Calvin-Nelson7 ай бұрын
Sweet. Should be sick!
@bicyclexx77 ай бұрын
Yes inline 6
@gdmofo7 ай бұрын
I love my low power Ford 300 cubic inch inline 6
@waltermerrill61527 ай бұрын
I've had a couple 4200 for the last 5 years or so I just bought my first five three very impressed less than $200,000 mi in the truck still runs and drives quietly and nicely.
@anthonygamez94865 ай бұрын
You just said in this video that you’ve never thrown a rod bearing on a 4200 .. If my mother shifted from D4 to D2 on the freeway while going 70.. Now my engine is making noise and check engines lights came on.. I feel like it’s a “rod knock” would you have an opinion on what most likely happened?
@CapablePimento7 ай бұрын
The problem with v8 burble is it has been done to DEATH. Just like Jeeps, Mustangs, Harleys…with repetition, builds lose enjoyability
@David-uh5mf7 ай бұрын
1996 thru 1999 ford sho V8 is a 60 degree along with 05-11 Volvo xc90 and 06-09 Volvo s80
@fuse80527 ай бұрын
American V8s typically , yes 90 degree bank separation. V8s from other countries do some weird stuff
@Cheezn4urdreams7 ай бұрын
Some of my co-workers like to laugh at me when I see a 4.2 L come in and I call it a amera-barra.. I try to tell them that with a turbo they actually perform very well
@TerrySmith-fc9mj5 ай бұрын
What do you think of mazda cx-90 inline 6 turbo
@chippyjohn17 ай бұрын
You didn't note that bearings on an inline engine are usually larger, both in width and diameter due to no overlapping bearings.
@Terryray1237 ай бұрын
A list of big inline six: Ford barra Nissan tb48 Toyota 1fz-fe